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[00:06:58] <jayk-> i want to relay all email, including matches in the passwd database, to another mx host. i set relayhost, but it still tries to deliver local matches locally.
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[00:07:10] <jayk-> any ideas how i can resolve that? thanks!
[00:07:29] <Signum> jayk-: what is your "mydestination" setting?
[00:07:58] <jayk-> i have it set to a file, with my domain set to RELAY
[00:08:50] <Signum> jayk-: uhm... "mydestination" just lists domains that are delivered locally. so setting it to something that points to "RELAY" is pointless. or I'm not getting it correctly.
[00:09:32] <jayk-> thanks signum
[00:09:36] <jayk-> i took my domain out of that file
[00:09:37] <jayk-> :)
[00:09:40] <jayk-> fixed it
[00:10:30] <Signum> :)
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[00:18:19] <Deep6> f3ew does each ldap map in the new 2.2 format need a separate file?
[00:20:03] <xored> hello. I upgraded my debian to etch and now running into problems with sending emails ( its my root server ) i cannot login ( sasld is running )
[00:20:05] <xored> http://pastebin.ca/433573
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[00:26:46] <wad> I need to tell my server to stop sending email for the next 20 hours. Is there a good way to do this?
[00:27:19] <wad> I had a misconfiguation, and certain spam was getting relayed back to my server via my relay host (ISP). They took issue with this, and turned off outgoing email for 24 hours.
[00:27:38] <lawnchair> stop postfix? heh
[00:27:52] <wad> My users can still receive email, though.... they just can't send!
[00:27:52] <xored> lawnchair: could you help me ?
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[00:28:26] <lawnchair> wad, block outgoing connections on port 25 postfix should queue it
[00:28:50] <wad> Ah, okay.
[00:29:29] <lawnchair> xored, prolly somethin to do w/ chroot
[00:29:47] <xored> lawnchair: yeah but my socket is created in the chroot
[00:30:02] <xored> lawnchair: is the socket 2 directory ?? seems a bit strange there is no socketfile created
[00:30:48] <lawnchair> something isnt right w/ the chroot
[00:30:48] <lawnchair> whats your /etc/default/saslauthd say
[00:31:10] <lawnchair> you may try something like OPTIONS="-m /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd -r"
[00:31:41] <lawnchair> and make sure permissions are correct
[00:32:30] <xored> lawnchair: i got such a line ine, sec
[00:32:45] <xored> lawnchair: PARAMS="-m /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd"
[00:33:29] <lawnchair> hmm im not so sure etch init script uses the PARAMS variable
[00:33:35] <lawnchair> i would try OPTIONS instead
[00:33:40] <lawnchair> that could be your issue
[00:34:07] <xored> lawnchair: http://www.pastebin.ca/433642
[00:34:32] <lawnchair> plz try OPTIONS instead of PARAMS and restart saslauthd
[00:37:51] <xored> AH!
[00:37:52] <xored> it worked
[00:37:57] <lawnchair> nod
[00:38:15] <lawnchair> i guess thats a debian bug
[00:38:28] <lawnchair> hmm yea it is... not sure why they felt the need to change it from params -> options - owell
[00:38:53] <xored> thank you
[00:38:59] <lawnchair> yw
[00:39:14] <xored> i noted it in the debian channel
[00:39:26] <lawnchair> heh
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[00:55:37] <eetfunk> Is there a way to see how a certain recipient address will be routed by Postfix besides doing a bunch of postmap queries manually?
[00:58:03] <nihraguk> i'm getting these errors in my logs: fatal: pgsql:/etc/postfix/virtual-sql.cf(0,lock|fold_fix): table lookup problem
[00:58:08] <nihraguk> any idea whats wrong?
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[01:13:57] <newzen> im trying to make postfix deliver to my local users, but i can
[01:14:16] <newzen> no one howto for simple postfix
[01:14:29] <newzen> only for mysql ldap etc
[01:14:42] <newzen> some one can give me a hand?
[01:15:46] <newzen> mailbox_transport = lmtp:unix:/usr/libexec/postfix/lmtp
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[01:16:00] <newzen> but say persion denied
[01:16:11] <newzen> permision denied
[01:16:39] <newzen> and changing to 777 :/usr/libexec/postfix/lmtp conextion refused
[01:16:52] <newzen> no one there?
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[01:21:37] <Thazza> hey all. Need a quick hand if anyone is around.
[01:23:41] <Thazza> Hello?
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[01:25:53] <rob0> !basic
[01:25:53] <knoba> rob0: 'basic' : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
[01:26:03] <rob0> newzen: ^^
[01:27:07] <rob0> newzen: Where did you get the idea to use mailbox_transport ? And worse, why are you trying to use /usr/libexec/postfix/lmtp ?
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[01:28:24] <newzen> you are right, coment this line and now is delivering
[01:28:27] <nihraguk> could someone explain to me what an error about (0,lock|fold_fix): table lookup problem means?
[01:29:01] <newzen> now i need to set up dovecot for local users, any hint!!
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[01:48:39] <Thazza> Does anyone know where a SASL2 compiled version with crypt support is located, that will run on Debian Etch?
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[02:07:14] <Thazza> Hello?
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[02:19:16] <Deep6> guys this might be a really dumb question, but how does postfix know to deliver mail for user@domain to the ~user account on the system?
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[02:27:06] <OmiKoRn> it delivers to local
[02:29:47] <Deep6> OmiKoRn I am looking at local's man page right now
[02:30:16] <Deep6> so local delivers to the user portion of user at domain dot com is that correct?
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[02:31:28] <newzen> some one have experience with dovecot lda?
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[02:35:51] <newzen> mailbox_transport = dovecot
[02:36:01] <newzen> and in master.cf
[02:36:28] <newzen>  dovecot   unix  -       n       n       -       -       pipe
[02:36:28] <newzen>  flags=DRhu user=vmail:mail argv=/usr/lib/dovecot/deliver -d ${recipient
[02:36:43] <newzen> that could work?
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[03:08:21] <Zand3r_> Hi. I am evaluating my various options for passing email through spamassassin (and possibly ClamAV) from Postfix. One of the standard options seems to be amavisd-new. I understand that this restricts me to a site-wide bayes database but does allow for per-user preferences outside of the bayes checks. I am wondering however whether amavis is passed the final delivery address from which to look up the user's configration or
[03:08:22] <Zand3r_> if it will receive the alias addresses the email was sent to.
[03:09:07] <Zand3r_> e.g. If I send email to alias1 at domain dot com which points to account1 at domain dot com and account2 at domain dot com - what will amavis receive from Postfix from which to look up its configuration(s)?
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[03:23:06] <ek> Zand3r: Have a look at Maia-Mailguard.
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[03:40:14] <Zand3r_> ek: I have looked at  Maia-Mailguard previously. Do you feel this would suit me better than amavisd-new ?
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[03:51:17] <ek> Zand3r: Well, it technically _IS_ Amavisd-New. It just has more stuff to go with it.
[03:51:36] <ek> And users can adjust their own settings as they see fit.
[03:51:50] <ek> It also allows you to report spam and such. It's a pretty nice little system. I use it.
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[05:38:14] <Woosta> Is there any way to know how much mail is queued for a given domain?
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[06:14:19] <f3ew> Woosta, parse the output of mailq
[06:14:54] <Woosta> thanks
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[06:56:00] <grumpy1> i am trying to set up postfix, but i cannot send email to myself
[06:56:11] <grumpy1> i can send email to my gmail account tho
[06:58:34] <grumpy1> in my home/user , I have created a Maildir folder and in it there is new, cur, and tmp
[06:59:48] <jbt> grumpy1: logs?
[07:00:11] <grumpy1> is that /var/log/mail.info?
[07:01:02] <jbt> on redhat derivatives usually /var/log/maillogs
[07:01:26] <grumpy1> i am using debian
[07:02:06] <jbt> grumpy1: sorry, no idea
[07:02:38] <grumpy1> this is what i have
[07:02:42] <grumpy1> Apr 11 13:38:01 rhubarb postfix/postalias[23956]: fatal: open /etc/aliases.db: Permission denied
[07:02:45] <grumpy1> Apr 11 13:38:18 rhubarb postfix/master[23729]: terminating on signal 15
[07:02:49] <grumpy1> Apr 11 13:38:18 rhubarb postfix/master[24036]: daemon started -- version 2.3.8, configuration /etc/postfix
[07:02:54] <grumpy1> Apr 11 13:39:01 rhubarb postfix/pickup[24041]: AFA6044A4135: uid=1002 from=<atllee>
[07:02:58] <grumpy1> Apr 11 13:39:01 rhubarb postfix/cleanup[24052]: AFA6044A4135: message-id=<20070411043901.GA24044@rhubarb>
[07:03:01] <grumpy1> Apr 11 13:39:01 rhubarb postfix/qmgr[24042]: AFA6044A4135: from=<atllee@rhubarb>, size=426, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
[07:03:05] <grumpy1> Apr 11 13:39:01 rhubarb postfix/smtp[24054]: AFA6044A4135: to=<atllee@rhubarb>, orig_to=<atllee>, relay=none, delay=0.04, delays=0.02/0.01/0.01/0, dsn=5.4.4, status=bounced (Host or domain name not found. Name service error for name=rhubarb type=A: Host not found)
[07:03:10] <grumpy1> Apr 11 13:39:01 rhubarb postfix/cleanup[24052]: B93EF44A4136: message-id=<20070411043901.B93EF44A4136@mail>
[07:03:21] <grumpy1> Apr 11 13:39:01 rhubarb postfix/qmgr[24042]: B93EF44A4136: from=<>, size=2395, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
[07:03:25] <grumpy1> Apr 11 13:39:01 rhubarb postfix/bounce[24055]: AFA6044A4135: sender non-delivery notification: B93EF44A4136
[07:03:30] <grumpy1> Apr 11 13:39:01 rhubarb postfix/qmgr[24042]: AFA6044A4135: removed
[07:03:30] <grumpy1> Apr 11 13:39:01 rhubarb postfix/smtp[24054]: B93EF44A4136: to=<atllee@rhubarb>, relay=none, delay=0.01, delays=0.01/0/0/0, dsn=5.4.4, status=bounced (Host or domain name not found. Name service error for name=rhubarb type=A: Host not found)
[07:03:30] <grumpy1> Apr 11 13:39:01 rhubarb postfix/qmgr[24042]: B93EF44A4136: removed
[07:03:30] <grumpy1> Apr 11 13:54:58 rhubarb postfix/qmgr[24042]: B01AD44A4134: from=<atllee@rhubarb>, size=416, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
[07:03:31] <grumpy1> Apr 11 13:54:58 rhubarb postfix/lmtp[24093]: connect to 127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]: Connection refused (port 2026)
[07:03:33] <grumpy1> Apr 11 13:54:58 rhubarb postfix/lmtp[24093]: B01AD44A4134: to=<atllee@localhost>, relay=none, delay=1360, delays=1360/0.01/0.01/0, dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to 127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]: Connection refused)
[07:03:37] <Supaplex> ffs
[07:03:57] * djs_2_6 slaps grumpy1 around a bit with a large trout
[07:04:09] <djs_2_6> grumpy1, pastebin mate...
[07:04:13] <djs_2_6> pastebin.ca
[07:04:46] <Supaplex> google nopaste. they have no ads, and are faster imo
[07:05:18] <djs_2_6> Anything other than flooding the channel...
[07:05:19] <f3ew> grumpy1, you need to fix the permissions on /etc/aliases and add $myhostname to DNS
[07:05:30] <grumpy1> will do next time, sorry about the pasting
[07:05:48] <grumpy1> what is the proper permission?
[07:06:08] <f3ew> 644
[07:06:27] * f3ew WTFs
[07:06:38] <jbt> grumpy1: http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html, read it
[07:07:14] <grumpy1> i have trouble understanding the document
[07:08:01] <jbt> omg :(
[07:09:31] <grumpy1> i try to read it again, if i have problems again, then i'll ask
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[07:13:34] <rob0> A rope walks into a bar. Bartender says, "Sorry, we don't serve ropes here." Rope goes out, frizzes up one end of himself, twists around himself a bit, comes back in. Bartender says, "Hey, aren't you that rope who was just here?" "Nope, a frayed knot," says the rope.
[07:15:01] <Woosta> Two strings walk into a bar, walks up to the bartender and says "I'll have a beer thanks?1?.>????G?`?E??Jz3ut?7;> at ? dot ??fkF???{??
[07:15:13] <Woosta> Other string says "Excuse my friend. He isn't null terminated"
[07:15:39] <rob0> haha
[07:18:58] <Supaplex> :)
[07:19:21] <Fullmetal-Mavez> !seen smesjz
[07:19:22] <knoba> Fullmetal-Mavez: smesjz was last seen in #postfix 1 week, 1 day, 9 hours, 24 minutes, and 55 seconds ago saying: <smesjz> what's in the logs?
[07:19:25] <Fullmetal-Mavez> weak!
[07:20:11] <f3ew> Hmmmm
[07:20:36] <Fullmetal-Mavez> damn that smesjz
[07:20:52] <f3ew> I need to figure out why there is a disconnect/connect with Pg happening, which is resulting in the Net::Server driven policyd stopping responding
[07:21:20] <rob0> When f3ew has a problem, #postfix listens ...
[07:21:27] <f3ew> heh
[07:21:37] <f3ew> I need answers, not llisteners :P
[07:21:40] <Fullmetal-Mavez> yeh f3ew is pretty cool but he's no smesjz
[07:21:41] <Supaplex> A rope walks up to the bar tender and asks for a drink.  The bar tender refuses, and replies "We don't serve rope around these parts."  The rope hops outside, and in a fit of rage, he bruises his head side to side on the wall outside, and even ties himeself into a square knot.   He returns, and asks for a drink again, the bar tender refuses, and the rope interjects "uhh, I'm NO rope! I'm a frayed knot!"
[07:21:45] <Fullmetal-Mavez> :P
[07:22:34] * f3ew heads to Google
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[07:23:09] <Supaplex> f3ew: btw, AndrewSN is next door in #postgresql :)
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[07:24:56] <f3ew> Supaplex, I know
[07:25:15] <f3ew> but I first need to figure out WHY this is happening
[07:27:27] <Supaplex> is there a debian package for this specific utility?
[07:27:38] <f3ew> Plus, this is a Perl issue, not a PostgreSQL issue
[07:27:39] <Supaplex> which is it anyway?
[07:27:52] <f3ew> Custom policy server
[07:27:53] <Fullmetal-Mavez> anyone happen to know where the sasl developers live so i can beat them to death with a big stick?
[07:28:03] <f3ew> Fullmetal-Mavez at CMU
[07:28:11] * Fullmetal-Mavez heads to CMU
[07:28:39] <f3ew> I'm using Net::Server::Multiplex to run the server, and DBD::Pg for the DB stuff
[07:29:13] <f3ew> there is a disconnect/reconnect at some point, and after that Postfix complains that the server is not responding
[07:29:49] <f3ew> However, the server is working fine, logging to the DB and everything
[07:30:22] <Supaplex> you're using DBD::Pg directly, or via/ala DBI?
[07:30:42] <f3ew> via DBI
[07:31:04] <Supaplex> I know DBI has a debugging hook you can have it log to file.
[07:31:12] <rob0> Is f3ew still with Outblaze, or is this a different employer? (Feel free to not reply.)
[07:31:18] <f3ew> Directi
[07:31:24] <f3ew> I moved last month
[07:31:33] <f3ew> I have Pg logging
[07:31:36] <Supaplex> is $dbh->ping throwing a fit or something?
[07:31:40] <Fullmetal-Mavez> can you use authdaemond for smtp authentication
[07:31:52] <f3ew> Fullmetal-Mavez, via saslauthd
[07:32:00] <Fullmetal-Mavez> hmm
[07:32:16] <f3ew> Supaplex, The Pg logs show a change in PID, indicating a new connection
[07:32:29] <f3ew> (also a connect is logged)
[07:32:54] <f3ew> I want to know the policyd stops responding after that
[07:33:07] <f3ew> This is a Net::Server::Multiplex issue, not a DBD issue
[07:33:09] <Supaplex> can you trap disconnect/ping and dump a confess/carp etc?
[07:33:17] <Supaplex> k
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[07:38:59] <rob0> Fullmetal-Mavez: authdaemond is very simple to use for auth.
[07:39:17] <Fullmetal-Mavez> yes
[07:39:22] <rob0> Just make the socket readable by the postfix user.
[07:39:59] <rob0> and smtpd.conf, I think it's type = authdaemond
[07:40:06] <rob0> google would know
[07:40:09] <Fullmetal-Mavez> see i am trying to get like smtp auth e.g. users remotely connecting to my mailserver and being able to authenticate themselves and relay mail through it
[07:40:21] <Fullmetal-Mavez> but i couldnt get saslauthd to work
[07:40:24] <rob0> yes, I know what AUTH is for :)
[07:40:34] <Fullmetal-Mavez> for either smtp or imap
[07:40:45] <Fullmetal-Mavez> but authdaemond seems to work ok for courier-imap
[07:40:56] <Fullmetal-Mavez> in that i can pull the mail off the imap server for each user
[07:41:10] <rob0> If Courier authdaemond is set up and running, it's very simple from that point on.
[07:41:25] <rob0> (Dunno about setting it up, I never did.)
[07:41:50] <Fullmetal-Mavez> well it seems to work i had in sasl2/smtp.d  authdaemond
[07:41:54] <Fullmetal-Mavez> and started the authdaemon
[07:42:26] <Fullmetal-Mavez> but smtp still wouldnt work :(
[07:46:00] <rob0> "pwcheck_method: authdaemond" according to Google
[07:46:39] <rob0> also need authdaemond_path
[07:46:53] <rob0> and PERMS along that path to let postfix in
[07:47:16] <rob0> no more spoon feeding, you take it from here, I need to go to bed :)
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[07:53:39] <Fullmetal-Mavez> haha
[07:53:40] <Fullmetal-Mavez> later rob0
[07:53:41] <Fullmetal-Mavez> :D
[07:54:26] <Fullmetal-Mavez> come back here rob0 u bitch am not finished!!!!
[08:01:59] * f3ew figured out a logging bug in his code
[08:02:12] <f3ew> Fullmetal-Mavez, why aren't you using saslauthd -rIMAP ?
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[08:06:07] <Fullmetal-Mavez> f3ew dunno couldnt get saslauthd to work
[08:06:10] <Fullmetal-Mavez> :(
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[08:39:09] <Madeye> Hi, I'm gonna ask weird question her
[08:39:10] <Madeye> here.
[08:39:51] <Madeye> how to send legitimate bulk email without being marked as spammer, are there any network/company should we talk to before proceeding ?
[08:40:52] <f3ew> Madeye, what are your signup processes like?
[08:41:12] <f3ew> (I do know a delivery consultant, but I have no clue about her rates)
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[08:43:11] <Madeye> f3ew, we have website that people register and choose if they want to receive newsletter or not and they do have the ability to tick/untick it later in their preferences, now we are about to send a newsletter but we don't want to fall in troubles, nevertheless the number of users aren't more than 2000 yet which make our task easier if we split it to 50 per 30 minute or so but we want to do things in the right and proper way
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[08:46:42] <Madeye> any idea?
[08:47:06] <f3ew> Madeye, COI is recommended
[08:47:21] <f3ew> send your newsletter and see what happens?
[08:49:07] <Madeye> f3ew,  we do not have a mailing list and users have already confirmed that they want this newsletter, we would sound stupid if we ask them for confirmation again, it's sounds like an extra unnecessary step
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[09:08:48] <f3ew> Madeye, can I register on the website using your email address?
[09:09:53] <Madeye> f3ew, no you got to confirm
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[11:48:43] <rovragge> I just sent an invalid DKIM-Signature to a gmail.com account but it passed :(
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[12:21:30] <indraveni> hi, I configured postfix and everything is working fine
[12:21:42] <indraveni> but I am not able to send mail to anu yahoo email id
[12:21:55] <indraveni> from my domain, why is it so? what may be the reason
[12:24:05] <Mavvie> what do the logfiles say?
[12:25:53] <indraveni> it says ,
[12:25:55] <indraveni> temporarily deferred - 4.16.50. Please refer to http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/defer/def er-06.html)
[12:26:08] <Mavvie> there you have it.
[12:26:13] <Mavvie> did you go to that URL?
[12:27:34] <indraveni> Mavvie, yes, it says that the mail will be sent later
[12:27:41] <indraveni> Mavvie, but why is it happening
[12:27:41] <Mavvie> well done!
[12:27:52] <Mavvie> Nobody knows.
[12:27:53] <indraveni> Mavvie, is it the problem of postfix or yahoo?
[12:27:56] <Mavvie> well, Yahoo! knowns.
[12:27:57] <Mavvie> well, Yahoo! knows.
[12:28:01] <Mavvie> it's not a problem.
[12:28:06] <indraveni> Mavvie, ok
[12:28:09] <Mavvie> it's a temporary deferal
[12:29:11] <indraveni> ok
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[12:41:45] <iball> Hi, how do i disable sending of email both local and remote, I just want to receive email that is it?
[12:44:25] <f3ew> comment out smtp in master.cf
[12:46:49] <iball> in the default_transport ?
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[12:48:56] <f3ew> or just set default transport = error:
[12:51:31] <iball> will that send an email back?
[12:51:43] <f3ew> yes
[12:51:53] <iball> hmm that would be unneccessary processing
[12:52:06] <iball> cant i deny it immediately?
[12:52:13] <f3ew> then comment out the line ending with smtp
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[12:52:47] <f3ew> You could try smtpd_recipient_restrictions = reject_unauth_destination
[12:53:00] <f3ew> which will only accept for explicitly listed domains
[12:53:43] <sysmonk> iball: remove permit_mynetworks
[12:53:55] <iball> sysmonk ive just done that now to test
[12:53:58] <iball> one second
[12:54:32] <sysmonk> is anyone using postfix with ipv6?
[12:55:06] <sysmonk> would be nice to see statistics of how much emails do you receive via ipv6
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[12:57:15] <iball> hmm removing permit_mynetworks didnt work
[12:57:47] <iball> and adding the restrictions to smtpd_recipient
[13:00:39] <sysmonk> iball: pastebin your postconf -n && master.cf
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[13:01:47] <notty> helllo, i have a problem i can't ban a domain, i don't want to receive mails from that domain
[13:02:15] <iball> one second
[13:02:22] <notty> i tried a lot of things and no success
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[13:10:41] <iball> sysmonk: http://rafb.net/p/JGeXrq71.html
[13:11:17] <sysmonk> iball: sorry, i'm out for a few hours, i'll look at it later if you'll wait
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[13:11:38] <iball> its ok
[13:11:39] <iball> np
[13:21:14] <iball> ok i got it working thanks
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[13:56:38] <ncaller> if I enable SASL for my postfix SMTP server so that users must authenticate to relay mail through, will other mail servers still be able to deliver to my virtual domains without authenticating?
[13:57:33] <telmich> yes
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[14:00:11] <notty> can anyone help me in blocking a domain ?
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[14:05:34] <maddy> hiho
[14:06:18] <maddy> since today no email could be delivered to the mailboxes and i have this message in the log: postfix/qmgr[3490]: 7B5CAE9390: to=<contact at xxx dot com>, relay=none, delay=263432, delays=263431/0.91/0/0, dsn=4.4.2, status=deferred (delivery temporarily suspended: lost connection with 127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1] while sending RCPT TO)
[14:06:33] <maddy> what's going on with postfix?
[14:07:29] <f3ew> your content filter is broken
[14:08:02] <maddy> but it worked the whole time, how can it be broken now?
[14:08:11] <maddy> i use amavisd
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[14:17:49] <f3ew> Is amavisd running?
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[14:24:18] <maddy> yes, but i think i found the problem, in the logs is as well: (!!)TROUBLE in process_request: Can't create directory /var/amavis/tmp/amavis-20070411T141529-25456: Trop de liens at /usr/sbin/amavisd line 4449, <GEN6> line 4.
[14:24:42] <maddy> in fact the folder /var/amavis/tmp is at max full with folders
[14:25:48] <maddy> shouldn't amavis delete the folders?
[14:27:25] <Zaw> yes. the user running amavisd most likely doesn't have proper file permissions for that folder.
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[14:28:41] <maddy> the owner is amavis
[14:29:52] <maddy> filepermission is set to 755
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[15:08:54] <malverian> I'm trying to get SASL/PAM auth working on my Debian Etch box. When I use testsaslauthd to test a user/pass combo, it works. But when I try to auth the same user with Postfix, it tells me "there are no secrets" in the SASL database. I assume this is a problem with my /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf, but I can't find anything useful on Google :-/
[15:09:16] <f3ew> turn off the chroot in master.cf
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[15:11:38] <malverian> Is it on by default? My smtpd line has a "-" in the chroot column.
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[15:12:57] <malverian> Perhaps I will just try getting sasl running inside /var/spool/postfix
[15:13:27] <f3ew> it's on by default
[15:15:20] <malverian> Oh.. I didn't expect that. Sorry for the stupid question then.
[15:15:26] <malverian> f3ew: Thanks.
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[15:18:07] <symerian> hy all , little question about postfix
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[15:18:23] <symerian> can i specify in my main.cf more than one mailbox_command ?
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[15:21:13] <malverian> f3ew: All services have to have chroot disabled?
[15:23:18] <f3ew> malverian at least smtpd
[15:23:23] <f3ew> though you could disable them all
[15:24:34] <rob0> symerian: mailbox_command_maps can do it per user.
[15:25:44] <rob0> IMO, better to let users manage it themselves with .forward files. Usermin can provide a "pretty" GUI for that.
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[15:27:48] <symerian> rob0: my goal is to deliver the same mail in a mailbox and to a dovecot imap folder at the same time
[15:28:17] * cpm delivers rob0 to dovecot and local
[15:29:01] * rob0 shoots, SCORES!
[15:29:15] <malverian> Hmm.. it doesn't seem to be helping.
[15:29:30] <malverian> I also tried following the instructions here to no avail: http://www.nervous.it/txt/Postfix-SMTP-AUTH-4-DUMMIES.html
[15:29:57] <malverian> Except instead of setting up PAM to use MySQL, I copied my pam.d/dovecot to pam.d/smtp
[15:30:39] <malverian> I think something must be wrong with my postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf since it says it is trying to open /etc/sasldb2
[15:31:23] <rob0> I believe .forward files can handle dual delivery. Never tried it tho.
[15:33:07] <f3ew> they can
[15:33:16] <f3ew> one target per line
[15:34:51] <malverian> I tried using pwcheck_method: saslauthd / auxprop_plugin: pam, and that at least seemed like it wasn't trying to use the sasldb2
[15:34:59] <malverian> sorry.. pwcheck_method: auxprop
[15:35:08] <malverian> But it still didn't want to work.
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[15:37:17] <malverian> Is the tutorial I'm following just broken?
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[15:37:44] <rob0> symerian, procmail is old, ugly and unmaintained, but a single recipe in a global procmailrc could do what you describe. No need for multiple mailbox_command .
[15:38:19] <rob0> (I hate to point people at procmail these days because I expect it to break soon.)
[15:41:04] * malverian grumbles..
[15:41:25] <malverian> Also tried both methods here: http://hurring.com/howto/debian_postfix_sasl/
[15:41:29] <malverian> Still nothing.
[15:41:39] <symerian> rob0: me too :(
[15:41:43] <symerian> cpm: you did what ?
[15:42:18] <symerian> rob0: let's use this crappy procmail :s
[15:42:19] <symerian> :(
[15:42:24] * cpm points rob0 at procmail
[15:43:48] <malverian> Anyone have any pointers for me? I'm at the end of my witts at this point I think.
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[15:44:41] <malverian> I tried turning chroot jail off for smtpd, tried using the methods in /usr/share/doc/sasl2-bin/README.Debian as well as two different web pages to get SASL working in a chroot, and it is still telling me the auth database is empty.
[15:45:35] <aichainz> i can use /etc/aliases for system level messages in postfix cant i ?
[15:45:48] <aichainz> i mean specifically the root aliase
[15:46:08] <malverian> aichainz: Yes.
[15:46:33] <aichainz> thanks
[15:46:48] <aichainz> and to rebuild the alias database, still newaliases ?
[15:46:55] <malverian> Where is /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf documented fully?
[15:46:56] <aichainz> does it even require that ?
[15:47:11] <malverian> newaliases , yes.
[15:48:33] <rob0> SASL is poorly documented, unfortunately.
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[15:49:05] <malverian> Do you have any idea what I could be doing wrong?
[15:49:10] <malverian> This should NOT be this difficult.
[15:50:01] <rob0> malverian, I stay away from Cyrus SASL.
[15:50:08] <rob0> and from cpm
[15:50:18] <malverian> Do you use dovecot sasl instead?
[15:50:22] <rob0> yes
[15:50:47] <malverian> Is there good documentation for that somewhere?
[15:51:39] <malverian> I mean.. it just seems like if testsaslauthd works, postfix should work too.
[15:51:53] <malverian> I mean, it's just asking the sasl daemon to authenticate based on some values it passes, right?
[15:51:56] <rob0> Sort of. Postfix SASL_README has pretty much everything you need. Setting dovecot up is pretty simple.
[15:52:09] <malverian> Why the heck would Postfix be trying to open /etc/sasldb2 ?
[15:52:19] <malverian> I can only think my sasl/smtpd.conf is just wron.
[15:52:36] <rob0> I agree, your problem is smtpd.conf .
[15:52:37] <malverian> But every howto I've seen says to just use pwcheck_method: saslauthd
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[15:58:51] <malverian> So...
[15:59:05] <malverian> Dovecot SASL doesn't support DIGEST-MD5 w/ PAM?
[15:59:35] <malverian> Are any of the encryption methods supported w/ PAM?
[16:00:40] <rob0> Hmmm, I just use PLAIN/LOGIN and force TLS.
[16:00:53] * cpm forces rob0 PLAIN
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[16:01:10] * cpm agrees with rob0 , PLAIN/LOGIN + TLS
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[16:01:24] <cpm> much easier to deal with for EVERYONE
[16:01:39] <rob0> Yikes, someone mark that down! cpm agreed with me!!
[16:01:49] * cpm always agrees with rob0
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[16:02:16] <rob0> I disagree. (Let's see you agree with THAT, ha!)
[16:02:35] <malverian> rob0: You mean smtpd_enfoce_tls ?
[16:02:45] * cpm agrees
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[16:03:00] <rob0> nonono ... something like that but with auth
[16:03:28] <rob0> smtpd_auth_tls_only ?
[16:03:36] <rob0> !smtpd_auth_tls_only
[16:03:37] <knoba> rob0: Error: "smtpd_auth_tls_only" is not a valid command.
[16:04:13] <malverian> smtpd_tls_auth_only
[16:04:15] <rob0> smtpd_tls_auth_only
[16:05:49] <malverian> Hmm..
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[16:34:17] <maddy> where do i reduce the logging in the main.cf?
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[16:35:37] <pbh> hello
[16:35:51] <Supaplex> moin
[16:37:26] <pbh> I have a question, I'm using postfix and disabled sendmail, because both were listening to the same port. Now I can't use the PHP mail() function, how can I make PHP use postfix?
[16:37:47] <lawnchair> wtheck
[16:37:51] <nightswim> php.ini
[16:38:36] <lawnchair> doesnt php.ini just specify your sendmail binary
[16:38:56] <pbh> I know the directive "sendmail_path"   but to what should put on there?
[16:39:10] <lawnchair> path to your sendmail binary
[16:39:38] <rob0> "postconf sendmail_path"
[16:39:38] <pbh> I have already:  /usr/sbin/sendmail -t -i
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[16:41:55] <pbh> I did that too: "postconf sendmail_path" I'm getting:  /usr/sbin/sendmail.postfix
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[16:42:17] <pbh> I entered that to the php.ini with no result last night
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[16:43:14] <pbh> any ideas why?
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[16:49:21] <pUmkInhEd> good morning #postfix
[16:49:27] <pUmkInhEd> good afternoon and good evening
[16:49:48] <nitbix> no goodnight?
[16:49:56] <pUmkInhEd> i am trying to move the postfix dir from /var/spool because the storage is too small
[16:50:23] <pUmkInhEd> but i get errors saying mv: postfix/private/fax: Operation not supported
[16:50:38] <pUmkInhEd> how do i move the spool dir?
[16:50:51] <pUmkInhEd> i was just gonna mv it and then ln -s it to /var/spool
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[16:53:57] <pUmkInhEd> i think i found somethign on wiki i am gonna read, but if u know please post to the chan, i will check back
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[16:59:37] <nitbix> pUmkInhEd: I don't have "fax"
[17:02:42] <pUmkInhEd> nitbix: sorry thats from master.cf
[17:02:59] <rob0> pUmkInhEd: I don't know the answer, but I do know the problem. Spool ID's are taken from the physical inode number of the file. I've seen this on the mailing list, and I know that solutions have been posted there.
[17:03:44] <pUmkInhEd> nitbix: but it also listed all the other lines from master.cf, presumably because they are 'special'
[17:03:55] <pUmkInhEd> **'special files'
[17:04:40] <pUmkInhEd> GG http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/postfix/2000-08/1055.html
[17:06:16] <pUmkInhEd> apparently.... (paste incoming)
[17:06:16] <pUmkInhEd> postfix stop
[17:06:16] <pUmkInhEd> mkdir -p /var2/spool/postfix
[17:06:16] <pUmkInhEd> cd /var/spool
[17:06:16] <pUmkInhEd> mv postfix oldpost
[17:06:16] <pUmkInhEd> ln -sf /var2/spool/postfix postfix
[17:06:18] <pUmkInhEd> cd oldpost
[17:06:20] <pUmkInhEd> tar cf - . | (cd ../postfix ; tar xpvf - )
[17:06:22] <pUmkInhEd> postfix start
[17:06:57] <pUmkInhEd> it also mentions the p is quite important
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[17:07:58] <pUmkInhEd> before i do that any comments?
[17:10:00] <rob0> What's in the spool?
[17:10:35] <pUmkInhEd> [root@mail /var/log] postqueue -p
[17:10:35] <pUmkInhEd> Mail queue is empty
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[17:11:45] <pUmkInhEd> will postfix just rebuild the spooldir if its empty?
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[17:15:40] <rob0> Yes, it will.
[17:15:54] <rob0> So hey, problem is solved. :)
[17:17:04] <pUmkInhEd> ty rob0
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[17:21:58] <rob0> Of course if you used chroot, you'd have to move in those files ... etc/, var/.
[17:22:15] <rob0> but those will be fine to cp
[17:23:06] <pbh> Any idea on how to fix: fatal: Recipient addresses must be specified on the command line or via the -t option on my postfix function - PHP mail() does not work
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[17:26:13] <pUmkInhEd> rob0: i dont run chrooted, at least i dont think theres a reason to
[17:27:22] <pUmkInhEd> pbh: it doesnt sound like sendmail (which php uses to send mail) is properly linked (lrwxr-xr-x    1 root     wheel          21 Aug 16  2006 sendmail -> /usr/sbin/mailwrapper*)
[17:28:04] <rob0> No, it sounds like the -t option was left off.
[17:28:19] <rob0> The question contained the answer.
[17:28:20] <pbh> I'm trying to use postfix with PHP mail()
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[17:29:30] <pUmkInhEd> rob0 > pUmkInhEd ??
[17:29:42] <pUmkInhEd> lol
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[17:35:13] <pbh> I added the -t option to the php.ini it now reads:  sendmail_path = /usr/sbin/sendmail.postfix -t   but mail() in PHP is still not sending any emails...
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[17:40:56] <pbh> I got this entry on my maillog:
[17:41:00] <pbh> Apr 11 10:30:29 server1 postfix/smtp[1075]: 2A10D59C486: to=<target at email dot com>, relay=gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[64.233.185.27]:25, delay=0.34, delays=0.03/0.01/0.06/0.25, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 OK 1176305429 62si8365029wri)
[17:41:00] <pbh> Apr 11 10:30:29 server1 postfix/qmgr[27627]: 2A10D59C486: removed
[17:42:26] <pbh> what is the problem?
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[17:43:24] <symerian> i know procmail in a peace of crap but, if anyone good with it would help me a little, it would be nice ;)
[17:44:07] <pbh> that is the message I'm getting with my PHP mail(), and is still not working
[17:44:08] <hparker> pbh: It looks to me like you ought to ask google where it went
[17:44:48] * rob0 asks Google where hparker went
[17:44:53] * cpm asks hparker where it went
[17:44:56] <cpm> Doh!
[17:45:03] <rob0> gmta
[17:45:04] * cpm asks hparker where rob0 went
[17:45:16] <hparker> hehe
[17:45:57] <pbh> I haven't received the copy of the email yet, that why I'm saying its not working still
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[17:46:23] <hparker> The log says it was delivered to google and they accepted it
[17:47:23] <pbh> so its suppose to work now...
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[17:53:29] <pbh> wow, all the emails were in the junk folders in gmail
[17:53:43] <pbh> thanks hparker
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[18:02:39] <tminos> Is there a way to make Postfix se
[18:02:48] <tminos> ... send mail out only on certain IPs for certain domains ?
[18:03:21] <devdas> to certain destination domains, yes
[18:03:35] <devdas> use transport_maps, and appropriate ip layer routing
[18:04:15] <tminos> no way to do it as a blanket statement for all outgoing mail for a given domain?
[18:04:33] <tminos> I'd like to assign one IP address for all outgoing mail to each virtual domain I have
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[18:08:52] <rob0> That is a very common request, but I don't get it. Who really cares? End users don't even see the headers, much less can they interpret them.
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[18:09:44] <tminos> I have some 300 domains I host -- if a spammer guesses the password to just ONE of my clients addressess and starts sending out mail with it then suddenly NOBODY can send mail to AOL, Hotmail, Yahoo..
[18:09:57] * cpm doesn't see where it makes any sense either. having a 'virtual' smtp server for all virtual domains just complicates the whole mess horribly, a waste of time/resources
[18:10:10] <tminos> if they all had a unique IP for outgoing mail it would just be the one whose password was compromised
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[18:46:45] <hachiya> my host can't seem to send any email to hotmail, there is no bounce or anything, it just gets silently dropped.  and i have SPF set up, not sure what it could be
[18:48:21] <devdas> ask Hotmail
[18:48:57] <hparker> heh
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[18:53:01] <ecch> hi!
[18:54:56] <cpm> hachiya, what delivery status to you get?
[18:55:14] <hachiya> i think the mail logs just say OK, but it's been awhile since i checked that
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[18:55:22] <loca|host> hello all
[18:55:23] * cpm silently drops hparker
[18:55:24] <hachiya> when it first started happening, the maillogs showed that hotmail said OK
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[18:55:59] <loca|host> am using postfix on a debian etch, authentification over mysql and need to control user quotas, any suggestions ?
[18:56:15] <rob0> Hey, I heard that splat! Be silent so I can sleep!
[18:56:22] <hparker> hachiya: Search the postfix-users list... comes up all the time.. Hotmail just drops mail
[18:56:37] * hparker bounces a few more times
[18:56:44] <hachiya> so the only solution is to contact hotmail?
[18:56:49] <devdas> yes
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[18:56:57] <hachiya> ok ill do that then
[18:56:57] <cpm> OK as in 'status=sent (250 blah blah OK" ?
[18:57:06] <hachiya> cpm, yeah i couldn't believe it the first few times i was testing
[18:57:25] <rob0> Don't expect any real help from Hotmail.
[18:57:26] <hparker> It comes down to.... hotmail sux
[18:57:31] <rob0> indeed
[18:57:48] <loca|host> anyone ?
[18:58:09] <hparker> There was a thread not long ago where someone posted their responses from hotmail "tech support" .. Was a funny read iirc
[18:58:48] <hparker> loca|host: Well, you could add a field to the db and set it with a script when the mailbox gets to large
[18:59:10] <ecch> I've got a problem with my postfix and my head is spinning..perhaps someone has an idea ;) my postfix works quite similar to the postfix in the workaround-isp-tutorial. everything works quite fine - except forwarding. i get a relay denied message (only on mailadresses in the forward-mysql-table) if an external server (hotmail, gmx.de or something like that) tries to deliver the mail to my server. if i send the mail via mutt on the same box it wor
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[19:07:07] <loca|host> how to let clamav scan incoming and outgoing emails ?
[19:08:02] <cpm> loca|host, check out amavis
[19:08:53] <sw> loca|host, put clamav as content_filter on the incoming and outgoing interface
[19:10:09] <rob0> ecch, sounds like virtual_mailbox_domains lookup isn't working right. Use postmap -q to debug it.
[19:10:18] <loca|host> whatis amavis ?
[19:11:00] <alexIdoia> following the dist-upgrade to debian4 my transport vacation does not work, in my table transport I have mapped autoreply.mydomain to vacation: but then in my mail.log I got this error: autoreply.vladimir.idoia.org
[19:12:05] <alexIdoia> warning: connect to transport vacation: No such file or directory
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[19:13:14] <alexIdoia> any idea anyone ?
[19:14:12] <ecch> rob0: postmap -q $src mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual_forwardings.cf answers $dest
[19:14:35] <alexIdoia> rob0: anyidea about my problem ?
[19:14:45] <ziro> alexIdoia, maybe your master.cf got over written?
[19:14:53] <ziro> that contained that transport
[19:15:06] <rob0> alexIdoia: You made a mistake by trusting dist-upgrade?? I do not use Debian.
[19:15:39] <ziro> yup... always backup! ;-)
[19:16:01] <alexIdoia> I have a backup :)
[19:17:02] <alexIdoia> ziro: well done you were right
[19:17:08] <ecch> ah, found my problem :)
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[19:18:05] <ecch> my forwarding goes from a@$foo to b at $bar dot ..but i didn't have $foo in my domains-table
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[19:23:49] <Fallenou> hello
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[19:28:10] <Fallenou> i have some problem with postfix, it does put the new mail into /var/spool/$user instead of putting them in $HOME/Maildir
[19:28:18] <Fallenou> i am going to post postconf -n
[19:29:39] <rob0> Fallenou: mailbox_command I bet (but go ahead and pastebin that)
[19:30:05] <Fallenou> here is my post http://nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=76794
[19:30:19] <Fallenou> it is procmail
[19:30:48] <rob0> We get this question all the time. Debian, I bet.
[19:31:06] <Fallenou> FC2
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[19:31:20] <devdas> comment it out
[19:31:48] <Fallenou> what ?
[19:32:17] <rob0> Don't use procmail unless you want to use procmail! Configure it if you DO want to use it.
[19:32:57] <Fallenou> i don't especially want to use procmail :p
[19:33:12] <Fallenou> what about other mailbox_command ?
[19:33:28] <rob0> 17:30 < devdas> comment it out
[19:33:47] <Fallenou> i don't understand this sentence, sorry
[19:34:06] <Fallenou> (i am not an english speaking man as you noticed :p)
[19:34:38] <rob0> Remove the line from main.cf
[19:34:43] <devdas> comment mailbox_command in main.cf
[19:34:54] <alexIdoia> hey I have a new system to administrate, I have to fix a few things one of which is the vacation email responder
[19:35:13] <Fallenou> ok
[19:35:15] <devdas> !vacation
[19:35:16] <knoba> devdas: Error: "vacation" is not a valid command.
[19:35:24] <devdas> http://vacation.sf.net/ IIRC
[19:35:28] <alexIdoia> the system is backup on another machine, on both there is the vacation program
[19:35:43] <alexIdoia> but on one of them there is a vacation.pl file in spool/vacation
[19:35:53] <alexIdoia> /var/spool/vacation I meant
[19:36:03] <Fallenou> ok i have done it
[19:36:08] <alexIdoia> is that the same thing or is it two different programme ?
[19:36:51] <alexIdoia> what I want is to be able to resinstall it
[19:37:34] <alexIdoia> apt-get tells me that it is already installed but inn my master.cf, the vacation process comes from a vacation.pl that is not existing
[19:37:54] <alexIdoia> I would be glad to know what you think about this
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[19:38:41] <Fallenou> *gone eating*
[19:39:00] <Fallenou> oh ! i have a mail :')
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[19:42:35] <alexIdoia> devdas: this seems to be the package that I have on my debian base but I don't think it has anything to do with the vacation.pl that I have in /var/spool/vacation
[19:42:42] <alexIdoia> do you know any other ?
[19:44:37] <alexIdoia> ok so noone knows what I am talking about right ?
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[19:50:25] <_mic_> The one of my ISP (aol.com) or the one of my mail provider (1und1.de)
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[20:24:46] <sparrw> i use postfix, amavis, and spamassassin.  SA should ignore emails sent by SMTP authenticated users, but it doesnt.  help?
[20:25:15] <loca|host> is there any tutorial showing how to implement clamav antivirus with postfix ?
[20:25:40] * cpm wonders why they would want SA to ignore /anything/
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[20:27:29] <Fallen[oqp]> i thank everyone who helped me :), my postfix+courier works :)
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[20:32:22] <loca|host> anyone ?
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[20:33:34] <brasto> any suggestions on what I can do when all my mails go to the mail queue, and generate messages like this:
[20:33:36] <Fallen[oqp]> heu anyone would be more correct i think :p
[20:33:37] <brasto> /var/log/mail.info:Apr 11 03:07:18 mscis postfix/qmgr[15854]: 6F4241C2C6: to=<dad at localhost dot no-ip.org>, relay=none, delay=3147, delays=3126/21/0/0, dsn=4.4.3, status=deferred (delivery temporarily suspended: Host or domain name not found. Name service error for name=localhost.no-ip.org type=MX: Host not found, try again)
[20:33:46] <Fallen[oqp]> sorry for my english =)
[20:35:49] <sysmonk> brasto: DNS problems ?
[20:37:03] <brasto> sysmonk, the server can see the internet, can it have a DNS problem and see the internet?
[20:37:18] <sysmonk> it may
[20:37:31] <sysmonk> brasto: do a: host localhost.no-ip.org
[20:37:57] <sysmonk> argh, sorry, it's a MX
[20:37:57] <sysmonk> brasto: pastebin your postconf -n
[20:38:33] <rob0> localhost.no-ip.org.    60      IN      A       127.0.0.1
[20:39:01] <brasto> i forget where pastebin is...
[20:39:05] <sysmonk> rob0: i don't like the type=MX out there
[20:39:06] <brasto> ~pastebin
[20:39:12] <sysmonk> cause there's no MX for localhost.no-ip
[20:39:15] <rob0> no MX under that name
[20:39:20] <sysmonk> brasto: pastebin.ca
[20:39:30] <rob0> !paste
[20:39:30] <knoba> rob0: Error: "paste" is not a valid command.
[20:39:34] <rob0> !pastebin
[20:39:34] <knoba> rob0: 'pastebin' : a way to paste larger amounts of text so that other people can read it. Try http://www.rafb.net/paste/ or http://paste.debian.net/ - Do not forget to tell us the URL where you pasted it.
[20:39:47] <brasto> right, i'm not sure why it's trying to go to localhost.no-ip.org
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[20:40:11] <brasto> I use no-ip.org for delivery to this server because i have a dynamic address
[20:40:39] <rob0> You should use your dynamic name, not the parent domain.
[20:40:42] <brasto> but my machine name is mscis, and it should go to localhost or mscis.no-ip.org, not localhost.no-ip.org
[20:41:55] <sysmonk> brasto: nsswitch.conf ? /etc/hosts ?
[20:42:05] <sysmonk> brasto: try pinging 'localhost'
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[20:46:24] <brasto> sysmonk: http://pastebin.ca/435028 ... looking at nsswitch.conf now...
[20:46:44] <brasto> ll
[20:46:53] <brasto> oops... wrong window...
[20:48:01] <brasto> sysmonk, can't find nsswitch.conf in /etc/postfix ... where is it?
[20:48:18] <brasto> i can ping localhost
[20:48:38] <rob0> mydestination = mscis.no-ip.org, localhost PLUS mydomain = mscis.no-ip.org will fix part of it.
[20:48:42] <rob0> !debug
[20:48:43] <knoba> rob0: 'debug' : http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html : a good starting point for how to deal with problems and to report information to those who might help. Post your information in a pastebin such as http://pastebin.com/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ .
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[20:49:10] <rob0> The #no_chroot anchor in the above document should fix the other part.
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[20:58:03] <brasto> thank you rob0
[20:58:09] <brasto> i'll look into those things
[20:58:19] <magikman> I am having a slight problem setting up a mail server here. I have everything configured as far as imap-ssl and pop3-ssl and working well. However, i can't connect to my smtp server. When trying to telnet into port 25, the connection just hangs. It also does this same thing when trying to connect via a client. Any ideas?
[20:58:30] <brasto> recommend manually changing main.cf, or some other method?
[20:59:49] <magikman> i am guessing there is some parameter that should be changed within the main.cf because i can telnet or use the 'mail' client from within localhost.
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[21:08:26] <Zimmy_> my postfixadmin is having issues
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[21:10:29] <brasto> rob0 - flush/restart postfix after main.cf changes?
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[21:18:30] <magikman> nvm. i am guessing that my ISP is blocking that.
[21:18:34] <magikman> bastards.
[21:18:41] <magikman> i don't want to use their shitty email server.
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[21:26:52] <brasto> still getting the same error after recommended changes.  Can I tell postfix to deliver all mail to one mailbox, even with errors, just to get my lost emails back?  Then I'll go back to working with test emails, and testing the config?
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[21:36:09] <ceL_> can you still use smtp auth with sqlgrey using 1 ip address? on the same port (25)
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[21:44:56] <xpoint> yes
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[21:47:00] <xpoint> 127.0.0.x is your friend :-)
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[22:03:07] <notty> hello, is there a way _that actualy works_ to block mails from a domain ?
[22:03:16] <notty> searched the google tryed some stuff but no success
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[22:05:18] <ziro> notty, use a header check
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[22:17:18] <notty> ziro: tried that
[22:17:20] <notty> didn't work
[22:18:05] <notty> tried check_sender_access didn't work... tried header_checks ... didn't work
[22:18:22] <ziro> header_checks work fine here.. what did you do?
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[22:18:53] <notty> can you give me a paste of the conf line and regexp file ?
[22:18:54] <rob0> What exactly do you mean when you say "from a domain"?
[22:19:13] <notty> very practical... block all main that come from rs.ro
[22:19:22] <notty> s/main/mail
[22:19:58] <rob0> "From rs.ro" ... hosts? Envelope sender addresses? Header sender addresses?
[22:19:59] <ziro> so the header check for that would be
[22:20:23] <ziro>  /rs.ro/ DISCARD
[22:20:44] <rob0> yikes, that would catch a lot
[22:21:01] <ziro> how so?
[22:21:14] <ziro> it would still block it.. ;-)
[22:21:14] <notty> /4th.ro/ REJECT
[22:21:18] <notty> this is what i used
[22:21:31] <ziro> REJECT is fine to..
[22:21:42] <hachiya> hmm i need to set up a mail server that can support a lot of domains, im wondering whether to do qmail or postfix.  i have used qmail in the past but i recall it took a lot of time to get it working just right, patches i had to install..   postfix itself seems easy to install, but i am concerned about the virtual host support
[22:21:45] <rob0> Any header containing the regular expression "rs.ro"?
[22:21:46] <notty> didn't work.. that domain is mine so i can test it
[22:22:21] <ziro> notty, then you probably don't have header checks setup properly..
[22:22:22] <notty> From: Contabilul de weekend <contabilul_de_weekend at rs dot ro> <>
[22:22:36] <ziro> in your main.cf
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[22:23:23] <notty> header_checks = regexp:/etc/postfix/regexp_table, pcre:/etc/postfix/regexp_table
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[22:23:57] <notty> is that good ?
[22:24:24] <rob0> afk ... I sure hope someone comes along to help you :)
[22:24:38] <notty> i hope so
[22:24:52] <notty> i am about to block it with iptables.. but that is nto elegant at all
[22:25:32] <notty> hachiya: it is easy to setup virtual hosts
[22:25:43] <rcsu> notty: whats the content of the file regexp_table
[22:25:46] <ziro> add this instead:  header_checks = regexp:/etc/postfix/header_checks
[22:25:49] <notty> hachiya: i have 8 domains.. an it was simple
[22:26:04] <hachiya> notty, what system did you use for virtual hosts?
[22:26:06] <ziro> then populate that header_checks file
[22:26:09] <hachiya> qmail has vpopmail
[22:26:17] <hachiya> i am not sure what to use for postfix
[22:26:22] <hparker> postfixadmin is decent imp
[22:26:31] <hparker> s/imp/imo
[22:26:32] <ziro> notty, remember to postmap the file too
[22:26:35] <ziro> then restart postfix..
[22:26:42] <notty> rcsu:  (11:21:19 PM) notty: /4th.ro/ REJECT
[22:26:49] <hachiya> thanks hparker i'll read about it
[22:26:59] <notty> and /^4th.ro/ REJECT
[22:27:02] <notty> so it on another site
[22:27:08] <rcsu> ouch
[22:27:13] <rcsu> that never can match
[22:27:32] <notty> then what should i put ?
[22:27:59] <rcsu> first you should clean say what type of RE you wanna use
[22:28:10] <rcsu> either regexp or pcre
[22:28:19] * rcsu prefers pcre
[22:28:39] <rcsu> but not both styles on the same file
[22:28:56] <notty> ok.. and what should i put in the file ?
[22:29:14] <rcsu> the RE in pcre notation: /4th\.ro$/ REJECT
[22:29:33] <notty> and in regexp ?
[22:29:55] <rcsu> whipe out the regexp definition in your header_checks statement
[22:30:06] <rcsu> wipe, not whipe
[22:31:20] <notty> Message content rejected
[22:31:23] <notty> finaly
[22:31:31] <notty> thanx a lot everyone i think this means it works
[22:31:47] <rcsu> did you a reverse test ?
[22:31:58] <rcsu> a message that gets accepted ?
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[22:32:28] <notty> from my host to the other ?
[22:33:21] <notty> yes
[22:33:28] <notty> i can't send mail to the host
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[22:36:25] <notty> is there a way to make it only one way around ?
[22:37:28] <rcsu> ehem, we are talking about the content of an email
[22:37:37] <rcsu> not from where it comes
[22:37:55] <notty> ok
[22:38:02] <notty> i get the ideea
[22:38:15] <notty> don't really care.. just wanted to block some domains
[22:38:41] <rcsu> not my prob then :)
[22:39:50] <mmmmmmmmm> what characters in the message could a mail get not sent without any error in the /var/spool/mail ?
[22:42:21] <dan2003> is there a setting other than the server, usermam and password in /etc/postfix/saslpass required to make postifx send mail via a non local smtp server? im using a host on  lan (connected via broadband) as an smtp server but i wish for it to send via a server i have i na datacneter to prevent my mail getting spam filtered.. how can i scheive this?
[22:45:21] <rcsu> dan2003: relayhost =
[22:45:41] <rcsu> dan2003: let em point to your server in the data center
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[22:48:24] <mordaunt> <-- is a n00b. how does TLS on smtp work?
[22:48:40] <mordaunt> do all the smtp commands fall inside the tls encryption?
[22:49:10] <mordaunt> or is encryption only negotiated after an smtp connection is established
[22:49:42] <rcsu> mordaunt: think of an https connection
[22:50:03] <rcsu> mordaunt: first the encryption is established
[22:50:05] <mordaunt> https connects to a different port right?
[22:50:21] <rcsu> mordaunt: and then the normal smtp handshake is done
[22:50:27] <dan2003> rcsu: step closer ;) im gettig relay access denied at the datacenter server however,
[22:50:44] <rcsu> mordaunt: yes, but it can be done on the same port
[22:50:50] <mordaunt> oh how?
[22:51:02] <mordaunt> i was confused about the details of that
[22:51:09] <mordaunt> i can't google any help on it either =)
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[22:51:25] <rcsu> dan2003: then you have to look at your mailer in the datacenter or have to set the password file correct
[22:51:43] <rcsu> mordaunt: its simple
[22:52:09] <rcsu> mordaunt: if the server offers a TLS in its capabilities
[22:52:19] <rcsu> mordaunt: a client can issue an STARTTLS
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[22:52:37] <dan2003> ill double check the passwords, but it should be setup correctly, i setup a user on the datacenter server specifcally for the task, and put the users details in /etc/postfix/saslpass then created the hashes
[22:52:40] <rcsu> mordaunt: then the encrypted connection gets established
[22:53:59] <rcsu> dan2003: you have to have a auth line in postfix/sasl_passwd like
[22:54:28] <rcsu> dan2003: <relayhost> username:passwd
[22:54:35] <dan2003> rcsu: yes i have that
[22:55:31] <mordaunt> so anyone sniffing does know an smtp connection was established right?
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[22:55:48] <rcsu> dan2003: paste the output of 'postconf | grep sasl' to http://pasterbim.com
[22:56:06] <rcsu> mordaunt: you cant prevent that
[22:56:15] <mordaunt> ah ok =) that's what i was curious about hehe
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[22:56:52] <mordaunt> i thought 'always use tls' would somehow negotiate a tls tunnel before the smtp handshake
[22:57:03] <mordaunt> thereby hiding it from my isp =D
[22:58:27] <dan2003> rcsu: hehe, paatbin seems broken! ill'; post it somewhere.. 2 secs
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[23:02:49] <rcsu> mordaunt: if your isp is blocking outgoing port 25 you never have a chance
[23:03:05] <mordaunt> no they are chasing me on all my ports :|
[23:03:09] <mordaunt> first it was 25
[23:03:14] <mordaunt> now it's 2525
[23:03:23] <mordaunt> i switched to 587
[23:03:32] <mordaunt> who knows how long that'll last XD
[23:04:35] <dan2003> rcsu: http://www.ds.homedns.org/pastebin
[23:04:35] <rcsu> mordaunt: another idea: establish a tunnel between your hosts
[23:05:16] <rcsu> dan2003: what i thought, standard setup wrt to smtp_sasl
[23:05:26] <rcsu> dan2003: set
[23:05:40] <rcsu> dan2003: smtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes
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[23:06:24] <rcsu> dan2003: smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/etc /postfix/sasl_passwd
[23:06:41] <rcsu> dan2003: and run an postmap sasl_passwd
[23:06:50] <dan2003> thats odd, i have it set to yes in the conf file, i think maybe its also set to know earlier on, doe it take the first and ignore anythign after?
[23:07:40] <rcsu> dan2003: simply check it, postconf tells the truth
[23:07:43] <dan2003> sorry, set to no!
[23:08:55] <roe> can anyone tell why it would be a bad idea to pump maxproc up to 400~500?
[23:09:25] <dan2003> ahh, i c, its says smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes,  smtp_sasl_auth_enable = no, and i dont have the latter set, i should set that to yes ?
[23:09:42] <rcsu> roe: cause every proc needs at least 3 fds
[23:10:04] <hachiya> looks like there is vmailadmin and postfixadmin for handling virtual domains
[23:10:13] <rcsu> roe: and more of them for postfix internal usage
[23:10:45] <roe> ds?
[23:10:46] <rcsu> roe: it is likely that your system will go into thrashing then
[23:10:49] <roe> fds that is
[23:10:58] <rcsu> roe: fds = file descriptors
[23:11:07] <rcsu> roe: simply open files
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[23:11:23] <mmmmmmmmm> it seems like postfix doesn't send mails that contain "//" on my system
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[23:11:35] <mordaunt> rcsu: yea looks like my only option
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[23:11:49] <mmmmmmmmm> is this normal?
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[23:12:09] <roe> rcsu, so it is an IO concern? not cpu or mem
[23:12:10] <rcsu> mmmmmmmmm: where are the //
[23:12:21] <rcsu> roe: a system limit
[23:12:22] <mmmmmmmmm> in the body of the mail
[23:12:32] <rcsu> roe: to prevent a dos
[23:12:40] <mmmmmmmmm> in for example an internet address
[23:12:51] <rcsu> mmmmmmmmm: that doesnt matter
[23:13:06] <rcsu> mmmmmmmmm: a body is simply a blob
[23:13:11] <mmmmmmmmm> strange... but a mail that contains that doesn't get send...
[23:13:16] <felipe_> hello, good afternoon, offtopic, please anyone can help me witch fetchmail in order to fetch all mailbox, includes subdirectories fromn the imap server, i do fetchmail -u user host, but in only fetch..the mailbox, without the subfolders or another folders..on the server, (the imap server runs. novell groupwise)
[23:13:17] <roe> rcsu, the server is a pretty beefy server, and the default 100 connections was causing major delays
[23:13:27] <mmmmmmmmm> if i replace it with "" then it gets sent
[23:13:44] <rcsu> roe: what do you mean with a connection
[23:14:22] <roe> rcsu, an open smtp conversation
[23:14:41] <rcsu> roe: why do you have so much conns open
[23:15:18] <roe> large mail server, rejecting over 400messages/min
[23:15:37] <roe> so they are short connections, but still open
[23:16:12] <rcsu> roe: netstat -natp | grep :25 | grep ESTABLISHED
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[23:16:30] <rcsu> roe: should show the real conns
[23:16:56] <roe> and piping it to wc should show how many
[23:17:08] <rcsu> :)
[23:17:25] <roe> right now I am at 130
[23:17:37] <roe> but it is a slow period
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[23:17:51] <roe> after 5 things slow down
[23:18:14] <ceL_> so you can still use smtp auth on port (25) with sqlgrey using 1 ip address? on the same port, i didnt think that was possible, is there a howto?
[23:18:26] <ceL_> well i guess i could just test it
[23:18:28] <ceL_> ha
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[23:18:58] <rcsu> roe: it can be that there are that many conns ope
[23:18:59] <rcsu> n
[23:19:15] <roe> why not?
[23:19:22] <rcsu> roe: relative slow conns on the client side
[23:19:43] <rcsu> roe: related to your capability
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[23:20:39] <rcsu> roe: hmm, i havent seen your prob right now
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[23:21:02] <roe> right, but customers complain when they fail to send because the server doesn't respond within 60 secs (or at least they were complaining about that until I upped the maxproc)
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[23:22:07] <rcsu> roe: if your server doesnt fail with the larger limits, why not
[23:22:22] <roe> with raid 5 hdware sata raid, I'm not terribly worried about it
[23:22:37] <roe>  Ijust wasn't sure where the strain was going to manifest itself
[23:22:44] <rcsu> roe: its mostly ram related
[23:22:45] <roe> cpu, ram, or IP
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[23:22:47] <roe> io
[23:23:46] <roe> ok, and it looks like  still have 30% free, so I can stop worrying, thanx for the input
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[23:24:12] <rcsu> just look at the swap use for some time
[23:24:25] <rcsu> and beware of some script kiddies
[23:24:33] <roe> swap is not used at all yet
[23:24:46] <rcsu> i had such idiot last monday
[23:25:48] <roe> ?
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[23:32:37] <rcsu> roe: if you increase those limits, you can run into the prob of unwanted clients
[23:32:56] <rcsu> roe: nevertheless, seems to be a good aolution
[23:35:42] <mmmmmmmmm> rcsu: only when the message contains a link to my domain the mail gets blocked... sounds like some filtering is active
[23:35:54] <mmmmmmmmm> is this an option of postfix
[23:35:55] <mmmmmmmmm> ?
[23:36:34] <rcsu> mmmmmmmmm: it can be, but we dunno your confg
[23:37:13] <hparker> What's the log say?
[23:38:38] <mmmmmmmmm> well there it seems sent
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[23:39:01] <mmmmmmmmm> Apr 11 23:38:25 dmax postfix/qmgr[12614]: B277839C9FC: removed
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[23:40:38] <bkw> Why do I get Relay access denied; from=<bkw at loke dot lindesign.se> to=<backha at gmail dot com> proto=ESMTP helo=<loke.lindesign.se>           I have mydestination = loke.lindesign.se, localhost  in my main.cf?
[23:40:58] <bkw> it is my localhost that is is the mailserver
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[23:42:27] <sysmonk> bkw: you try to send email TO gmail.com from loke*
[23:42:49] <rcsu> bkw: read your post, there is the solution ;)
[23:42:50] <sysmonk> you have to look at the mynetworks && smtpd_recipient_restrictions
[23:45:13] <bkw> mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8 192.168.1.0/24
[23:45:31] <bkw> I added the 192.  net and it worked.
[23:47:10] <symerian> bkw: loke.lindesign.se wasn't in 192.168.1.0/24 ?
[23:47:39] <bkw> loke.lindesign.se is 192.168.1.10
[23:48:04] <symerian> bkw: so you shouldn't have to add 192.
[23:48:25] <bkw> but earlier "192.168.1.0/24" didn't exist on the mynetworks row.
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[23:48:38] <symerian> bkw: oh i see
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[23:50:50] <bkw> But is it safe to allow .168.1.0 subnet use the mailserver? Wouldn't it be better to allow specific IPs when it's only a few (five clients)?
[23:54:13] <sysmonk> bkw: you can
[23:54:25] <sysmonk> bkw: btw, was it mynetworks = 127.0.0./8 192.168.1.0/24
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[23:54:31] <sysmonk> (i mean, with the whitespace)
[23:56:41] <sysmonk> maybe you've put some strange char between
[23:57:01] <bkw> huh?
[23:57:12] <bkw> mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8 192.168.1.0/24
[23:57:20] <bkw> is what my line looks like.
[23:57:35] <sysmonk> if it really was 192.168.1.0/24 and your ip is 192.168.1.10 - it should work
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[23:58:04] <sysmonk> oh sorry
[23:58:05] <sysmonk> 04-12 00:48:26 < bkw> but earlier "192.168.1.0/24" didn't exist on the mynetworks row.
[23:58:10] <sysmonk> didn't read that carefully
[23:58:11] <sysmonk> ;)
[23:58:23] <bkw> sign of tiredness
[23:58:28] <sysmonk> yeah
[23:59:14] <bkw> but could I aswell define something like. mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8 192.168.1.5 192.168.1.3 192.168.1.10
[23:59:21] <sysmonk> yes, sure
[23:59:28] <bkw> so that those specific hosts are allowed to send through my smtp





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