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[02:15:54] <magyar> parameter for bouncing "bad hostname" back to local users ?
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[02:50:11] <Lort_Java> buenas
[02:50:25] <Lort_Java> speak spanish?
[02:50:32] <Lort_Java> please, help me
[02:51:33] <Lort_Java> i have a postfix with sasl (sasl auth with mysql table), and cyrus imap (too auth with mysql). The problem is when i send a mail to local mailbox, it dont recibe
[02:51:44] <Lort_Java> the mail broke in the space :s
[02:52:10] <Lort_Java> i can send e-mail to gmail o other mail server, but, i cant send e-mail in local mailbox
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[02:54:37] <nihraguk> when i try to send email from gmail to my server, i get "warning: Illegal address syntax from an-out-0708.google.com[209.85.132.249] in RCPT command: <stranger at xx dot xx.xx.xx>" where xx.xx.xx.xx is my the ip address of my postfix server (doesn't have a domain name yet). and the message bounces. is there something i'm doing wrong?
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[04:06:44] <dj-fu> hey uh, I've got a little issue currently
[04:07:10] <dj-fu> I have 3 mailfilters and 3 mailhosts
[04:07:21] <dj-fu> the mailfilters, after filtering, transport mail to mailhost01
[04:07:37] <dj-fu> and then mailhost01 nfs's them to 02 and 03, respectively, when they need to be on those servers
[04:08:06] <dj-fu> can I just use transports on the mailfilters to deliver mail to mailhost02 and 03, or should I transport from mailhost01 to 02 and 03
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[04:54:36] <xpoint> others that uses http://www.mailzu.net/ with postfix/amavisd ?
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[06:30:45] <Fullmetal-Mavez> !seen smesjz
[06:30:46] <knoba> Fullmetal-Mavez: smesjz was last seen in #postfix 6 days, 8 hours, 36 minutes, and 19 seconds ago saying: <smesjz> what's in the logs?
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[06:58:15] <ceL_> anyone know of any way similar to like vpopmail when using dovecot that when a user tries to authenticate by pop and/or imap it learns there password and updates the postfix mysql db? :P
[07:01:41] <f3ew> pop before smtp?
[07:01:49] <f3ew> http://popbsmtp.sourceforge.net
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[07:29:14] <Fullmetal-Mavez> yo, why would you be able to connect to postfix on the local machine fine but like from a remote host it would connect for a short time and disconnect
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[07:29:42] <Fullmetal-Mavez> also on the local machine it displays the smtpd banner
[07:29:45] <Fullmetal-Mavez> but not on the remote host
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[07:34:19] <f3ew> firewall
[07:34:38] <Fullmetal-Mavez> na no firewall man
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[07:34:45] <Fullmetal-Mavez> it's like it connects
[07:34:56] <f3ew> firewall on the client side
[07:34:57] <Fullmetal-Mavez> waits for a few seconds and is like uhh disconnect
[07:35:18] <rob0> Firewall or proxy
[07:36:07] <Fullmetal-Mavez> hmmmm dont have any firewalls on this machine or the server :|
[07:36:18] <Fullmetal-Mavez> it's probably some of my crappy configurations
[07:36:25] <f3ew> the ISP?
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[07:40:39] <ncaller> I'm moving to Maildir/ from mbox and am wondering is there any reason why the stuff I'm reading online says to set it up in the users home directories like this ~/Maildir/ is the capitalization of "Maildir" necessary or recommended for some MUA's?
[07:42:15] <rob0> no, doesn't matter, just tell the MUA or pop3/imapd where to read the mail from.
[07:44:18] <ncaller> it seems in unix that lowercase is a convention I wonder why they specify it like "Maildir/" weird
[07:45:57] <f3ew> convention
[07:46:01] <f3ew> blame it on DJB
[07:46:28] <rob0> haha I was going to mention him :)
[07:46:40] <ncaller> yeah what a punk... well I won't use qmail because of its license but I can certainly respect the work he has done
[07:47:35] <rob0> Maildir was the most significant contribution of qmail.
[07:47:48] <ncaller> which was first qmail or postfix?
[07:48:06] <f3ew> mail
[07:48:08] <f3ew> qmail
[07:48:19] <rob0> Postfix's design was inspired in part by qmail's modularity.
[07:48:38] <ncaller> which is really nice
[07:49:23] <ncaller> well this is going to be interesting
[07:50:23] <ncaller> I'm about to pull a server offline which has been running for several years with postfix/mbox and move it onto a nicely powered virtual machine behind NAT runnign postfix/Maildir/... if I've configured everything right then I guess it will be okay.... but who knows
[07:50:56] <rob0> soft_bounce is your friend :)
[07:51:15] <ncaller> oh shoot I have not enabled that, thanks
[07:51:36] <rob0> <== BTDT lost mail because of it
[07:55:13] <ncaller> well I'm about to go offline, I'll jump on later or tomorrow and let you know how easy or nightmarish it was.
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[09:07:16] <defaultro> hi folks, what file does "postsuper -D ALL" delete?
[09:07:31] <defaultro> I mean, what directory is it stored?
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[09:10:05] <defaultro> found it
[09:10:08] <defaultro> disregard
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[09:31:58] <balou__> Hi all
[09:32:36] <balou__> I set a local postfix server to replace the one from our ISP
[09:33:07] <balou__> I just want to use the ISP's as a backup, in case our own server falls
[09:33:47] <balou__> My server is now the first MX, the ISP's is the second
[09:34:05] <balou__> the problem I face actually is :
[09:34:41] <balou__> when I try to send a mail to a domain hosted by the same ISP from our local mail server
[09:35:05] <balou__> the ISP's SMTP require an authentication
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[09:35:37] <balou__> I think the reason comes from the fact that the ISP sees an incoming mail from a domain he should be managing, then
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[09:36:06] <balou__> he considers it comes from a mail client, not from another SMTP server
[09:37:22] <balou__> is there anyway to set within my local POSTFIX installation that when a mail goes to my ISP it provides a login/pass ?
[09:37:37] <balou__> any help about this would be more than greatly appreicated !
[09:37:41] <f3ew> See SASL_README, the client sasl section
[09:37:57] <f3ew> http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html#client_sasl
[09:38:12] <balou__> thanks I m gonna have a look at this !
[09:38:20] <ek> balou__: You just need to authenticate.
[09:38:46] <ek> Erm.. Nevermind. f3ew was all over it like a hobo on a hot dog.
[09:38:51] <ek> Hi, f3ew.
[09:39:33] <f3ew> heh
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[10:23:52] <ONY1> Hi ppl
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[10:28:16] <ONY1> I want to translate postfix messages such as "This is the Postfix program at host....I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message....." to russin lang. where can i find it in my mail server?
[10:28:43] <ONY1> russian (sorry for my english)
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[10:33:41] <f3ew> bounce_template
[10:34:20] <dump_01> Tnx f3ew
[10:34:44] <f3ew> or bounce_message_template
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[10:36:29] <dump_01> f3ew: recompile postfix?!
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[10:38:35] <Fullmetal-Mavez> heh
[10:40:01] <f3ew> dump_01, uh?
[10:43:43] <dump_01> f3ew: to change it i must first translate and than recompile postfix?
[10:44:24] <dump_01> f3ew: oops, sorry, i wound
[10:44:52] <dump_01> f3ew: Tnx for help :)
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[10:45:50] <f3ew> dump_01 depends on the version
[10:46:12] <f3ew> the latest postfix allows for bounce messages to be customised
[10:46:29] <dump_01> 2.2.8
[10:46:39] <dump_01> so old&
[10:46:42] <dump_01> ?
[10:49:28] <dump_01> OMG, Postfix 2.4 stable release...
[10:51:50] <dump_01> f3ew: 2.2.8 is too old?
[10:52:15] <dump_01> f3ew: to customise bounce messages
[10:52:44] <dump_01> f3ew: without recompiling
[11:08:13] <f3ew> right
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[12:13:40] <dump_01> http://www.aeoland.com/humor/klaves1.gif
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[12:49:45] <Fullmetal-Mavez> wooo! got my mailserver semi working
[12:49:46] <Fullmetal-Mavez> heh
[12:51:18] <Fullmetal-Mavez> woo hoo!
[12:51:23] <Fullmetal-Mavez> who let the dogs out
[12:51:29] <Fullmetal-Mavez> :D
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[14:26:40] <Fullmetal-Mavez> i hate sasl and pam
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[15:20:46] <Fullmetal-Mavez> say you want to send an email and you login to a remote server to send it can you use authdaemond for authentication?
[15:20:53] <Fullmetal-Mavez> i mean it seems to work for imap
[15:20:58] <Fullmetal-Mavez> but stmp?
[15:28:20] <f3ew> You need to use saslauthd to talk to authdaemond
[15:28:24] <f3ew> or talk to imap
[15:29:08] <Fullmetal-Mavez> hmm
[15:29:19] <Fullmetal-Mavez> weird
[15:29:50] <Fullmetal-Mavez> i've just spent like half a day trying to get saslauthd to work with no success then i try authdaemond and i can pull my mail from imap
[15:29:59] <Fullmetal-Mavez> but i cant remotly login to my server to send email
[15:31:29] <adaptr> what client, did you debug that ?
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[15:32:59] <Fullmetal-Mavez> huh?
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[16:04:00] <Ramattack> hi
[16:04:17] <Ramattack> does anybody know about some soft for benchmarking pop smtp and imap services?
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[16:08:48] <cpm> Ramattack, too many variables
[16:09:52] <Ramattack> sorry cpm?
[16:10:03] <cpm> too many variables
[16:10:13] <Ramattack> what do you want to say with variables?
[16:10:24] <Ramattack> lots of configs you say?
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[16:11:31] <cpm> an imap server for 10 users that keep only a few dozen emails floating at any given time, is going to be very different from an imap server that carries 10s of thousands of accounts with gigs of email in some of the accounts, no way to benchmark that effectively
[16:12:11] <Ramattack> but I could benchmark if my server supports for example one thousand users concurrent...
[16:12:16] <Ramattack> or if it needs more ram or...
[16:14:35] <Ramattack> cpm : do you understand what I want to know?
[16:14:50] <Ramattack> cpm : or to ensure my server is gonna support x number of users concurrent
[16:14:58] <cpm> Ramattack, there is no real way to know
[16:15:18] <cpm> if you have a million users with no more than 8 text emails in their inbox, so what? anyting could handle it.
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[16:15:59] <cpm> as soon as one bone head with 10 thousand emails in his inbox does a body search for a string in his 8 gigs of email, it will choke
[16:16:00] <Ramattack> yep but perhaps my machine crashes for not able to open descriptors... or the soft is bad compiled or....
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[16:16:52] <Ramattack> I want to ensure nothing is badly configured
[16:17:47] <Ramattack> not to all... well to test the machine performance
[16:17:56] <Ramattack> I want to check my software scales well
[16:17:59] <Ramattack> more than anything
[16:18:04] <Ramattack> and this is proper configured
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[16:23:51] <ceL_> anyone have a script to convert a huge vpopmail mysql db to postfix :D
[16:30:52] <Ramattack> bye mates time to go thanks!
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[16:35:42] <lawnchair> i use the smtpd_recipient_limit in postfix and it says "too many recipients" hwne a user tries to violate the maximum... im wondering if theres aw ay to actually change this message
[16:35:58] <lawnchair> i want it t osay like "too many recipients - your account will be discontinued if you try this again" or sumfin...
[16:37:57] <cpm> you think anyone ever even sees this message who would pay attention to it in the first place?
[16:38:33] <lawnchair> lol.bbq
[16:38:39] <lawnchair> cpm, thats a damn good point
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[16:50:25] <beholder> I'm wondering if there is a way to reclassify error codes coming from upstream SMTP servers.  We have a commercial SMTP engine that throws us a 552 error which postfix treats as a hard bounce, when in reality it's a bug in the vendor's software.  We need to have postfix treat this as a deferred item.  Is this possible?
[16:50:44] <cpm> 552 is a hard error
[16:51:16] <beholder> Yup it is, but in our case it's recoverable with a re-send.
[16:51:50] <beholder> The vendor is not playing nicely with us on this one, so I hoped we could solve it on the postfix end of things
[16:52:27] <cpm> what vendor?
[16:52:38] <beholder> StongMail
[16:53:02] <cpm> what the heck is that?
[16:53:03] <beholder> Not sure what their technology is based on... it seems to be a decent MTA, but this error is causing us some issues :)
[16:53:36] <cpm> however it sounds distinctly like a 'not your problem' issue
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[16:54:17] <beholder> Well... yes and no I guess.  The error comes up due to a bug in their system, but it's our applications feeding postfix that suffer from it.
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[16:56:31] <cpm> a 552 is usually a 'user over quota' kinda thing
[16:56:36] <cpm> doesn't mean it's a bug at all
[16:58:06] <beholder> We're using StrongMail as a relay from postfix.   The message does indicate a problem on the StrongMail side (mailstore full), but it usually clears itself up.
[16:58:54] <beholder> We'd like to mail to go into the deferred queue rather than hard bounce I guess.
[16:59:01] <cpm> commercial closed-source-proprietary stuff eh?
[16:59:07] <cpm> make'em fix it.
[16:59:10] <beholder> Yup :(
[16:59:21] <beholder> They seem very unwilling
[16:59:50] <cpm> postfix returning the mail on a 5xx is correct behaviour.
[16:59:58] <beholder> They don't even seem to have a throttling system.   Postfix can spank the crap out of it :)
[17:00:21] <cpm> you can throttle postfix
[17:00:33] <cpm> concurrent something
[17:00:34] <beholder> Yeah we do throttle postfix.
[17:01:17] <cpm> you should be able to make a rule for stuff relaying to that box, that only allows one message at a time, dunno how to do that offhand, but i'm sure it's doable
[17:01:21] <beholder> Postfix throttling saved us quite a few times.  I turned it off once thinking it was slowing down our mail processing... that went badly :)
[17:01:57] <cpm> So, what are you using it for anyway? You already have 'the-strongest' mta out there with postfix?
[17:03:09] <beholder> StrongMail is a legacy part of our solution.  They provide some reporting and deliverability stuff we don't get with postfix out of the box.  Actually at this point it's more internal politics than anything else.  We use postfix spread across a bunch of machines to feed our outbound mail.
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[17:03:56] <daxxar> Hm.
[17:03:57] <beholder> Personally I want to go 100% postfix.  It's done wonders for us.
[17:03:59] <cpm> ick
[17:04:17] <daxxar> warning: 68.184.186.221.relays.ordb.org: RBL lookup error: Host or domain name not found. Name service error for name=68.184.186.221.relays.ordb.org type=A: Host not found, try again
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[17:04:21] * cpm thinks everything should be 100% postfix, but of course, if it was, I wouldn't like it anymore
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[17:04:26] <daxxar> What will postfix do when that occurs? Wait a while and try again?
[17:04:29] <aubergine> I have a system with many IP's. how can i tell postfix that it should only send emails out with a speciic ip adress?
[17:04:49] <cpm> aubergine, smtp_bind_address
[17:04:54] <cpm> or something like that
[17:05:27] <cpm> http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#smtp_bind_address
[17:05:43] <aubergine> is it then only for messages which goes out?
[17:06:23] <aubergine> not for messages which comes in because it must be able to get messages on all interfaces
[17:06:24] <cpm> http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#smtp_bind_address
[17:06:30] <cpm> READ IT!
[17:07:02] <cpm> in short, yes.
[17:07:21] <daxxar> Meh, OOM errors on the server seems to have broken postgrey, no wonder i stopped getting emails :p
[17:07:27] * daxxar restarts postgrey
[17:09:05] <ceL_> is sqlgrey any better than postgrey
[17:09:28] * cpm restarts ceL_
[17:13:28] <ceL_> ?
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[17:38:03] <veke> There is someone that use frequently links? Can someone that could tell me how can i click on the button in links text mode please?
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[17:46:39] <madclicker> what have i done to deserve this?
[17:46:44] <madclicker> working with exchange
[17:49:26] <ceL_> is there a way to have postgrey running on a seperate ip address and then another smtp server on another ip address under the same daemon?
[17:49:32] <ceL_> both on port 25
[17:50:00] <ceL_> one ip with postgrey on port 25 and the other without postgrey that allows smtp auth on port 25 on a different ip
[17:50:35] <ceL_> so my mx record would point to the ip with postgrey on it and like an A record for mail.blah.com pointing to my other ip without postgrey doing smtp auth
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[17:56:47] <daxxar> postfix/qmgr[23419]: 8F4D0284A8: to=<daxxar at daxxar dot com>, relay=none, delay=0.7, delays=0.69/0.01/0/0, dsn=4.4.2, status=deferred (delivery temporarily suspended: conversation with 127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1] timed out while receiving the initial server greeting)
[17:57:00] <daxxar> what does that mean? what kind of conversation is it having with itself? :o
[18:03:44] <aubergine> cpm: thx it woks m8
[18:04:03] <cpm> aubergine, cool
[18:09:48] <mordaunt> anyone know why i'm getting this error?
[18:09:51] <mordaunt> relay=virtual, delay=1400, delays=1399/0.02/0/1, dsn=4.3.5, status=deferred (mail system configuration error)
[18:10:28] <mordaunt>  warning: not found in virtual_uid_maps    <-- i also get this
[18:10:38] <mordaunt> the user doesn't exist and i do use virtual mailbox domains
[18:10:52] <mordaunt> it should be rejecting it.. instead it keeps deferring
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[18:14:11] <veke> Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 81.75.5.164 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of veke at splash-boys dot com)
[18:14:11] <veke> Received: from www.splash-boys.com (localhost [127.0.0.1])
[18:14:14] <veke> how can i fix this?
[18:14:23] <veke> google mark my emails as spam
[18:16:45] <beholder> cpm: I found the solution to the problem you were trying to help me with.  I turns out the code to do this exact translation is found in smtp_proto.c but is ifdef'ed out.  All I had to do was remove the ifdef block.
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[18:27:11] <cpm> beholder, cool
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[18:28:44] <cpm> but I suppose my overarching point would be that postfix is behaving correctly. Breaking postfix in order to accommodate a broken piece of proprietary closed-source software is wrong-headedness
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[18:33:44] <vsamel> I am trying to understand simple content filtering looking at http://www.postfix.org/FILTER_README.html#simple_filter. How would I pass a message file to the eample script? Do I save a message I receive and then give this as the input? Also, how important are exit odes form sysexits.h?
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[18:38:12] <veke> caould someone tells me how can i set up the spf recorD?
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[18:43:13] <xpoint> veke: http://openspf.org/ follow the wizard
[18:43:55] <vsamel> any comments?
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[18:45:09] <vsamel> I need to send email from one specific sender to a script which uses the emails attachment in addition to sending it to the mailbox....is content filtering the right way?
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[18:46:10] <xpoint> vsamel: procmail
[18:46:46] <cpm> vsamel, I'd use header checks
[18:47:27] <vsamel> ya thats what this link http://www.postfix.org/FILTER_README.html#simple_filter suggests. But I dont understand what would be the input to the script?
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[19:12:03] <scav0r> does virtual aliases  take presedence over the local aliases file? I have a catchall rule in my virtual alias, but I want one specific name to be send to /dev/null
[19:12:11] <scav0r> it works when not having the catch all rules
[19:12:58] <devdas> scav0r: v_a_m runs in smtpd, alias_maps is from local
[19:13:20] <scav0r> okie
[19:13:29] <scav0r> guess Ill let procmail do the job then
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[20:08:45] <nihraguk> how do i view outgoing messages that may have been deferred due to greylisting policies at the recipient's end?
[20:14:42] <devdas> mailq
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[20:27:52] <roe> before I do this on a live system, I wanna make sure I am doing this correctly
[20:29:31] <roe> I am rejecting on average 100 emails/min, postfix by default has 100 set up as its maxproc.  I have noticed long delays in responding to a connection, all I have to do is up the maxproc parameter correct?
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[20:37:16] <awannabe> hi guys, ive looked everywhere and i dont know how to purge the ENTIRE mail q
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[20:45:20] <awannabe> im a iddiot, nevermind! :)
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[21:13:44] <[sr]> hi guys
[21:14:18] <[sr]> when i send emails in BCC, the end get's "undisclosereceipients;:my_mailserver.domain.com"
[21:14:31] <[sr]> does postfix 2.4.x has an options to remove this?
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