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[00:16:26] <FastJack> ok, I figured out how to deliver to cyrus via lmtp instead of cyrdeliver. but user+mailbox at somewhere dot com still doesn't work. it gets delivered to inbox
[00:23:54] <Badunkadun1> How does one cancel all deferred mail
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[01:20:58] <slacker403> whats the most simple way i can setup multiple domains with postfix
[01:29:23] <Motoko-chan> Simplest is to use system accounts.
[01:29:28] <Motoko-chan> But each prefix must be unique.
[01:29:37] <Motoko-chan> Or you do fancy rewriting.
[01:29:44] <Motoko-chan> More complex is using virtual accounts.
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[01:53:11] <slacker403> huh ?
[01:54:30] <slacker403> Motoko-chan: i need a fast and simple way of setting up postfix so it can have multiple emails not just one
[02:02:00] <Badunkadun1> How does one cancel all deferred mail
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[02:06:21] <wedge> prebur191200: man postsuper
[02:06:24] <wedge> ops
[02:06:27] <wedge> Badunkadun1: man postsuper
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[02:41:20] <Zand3r_> Hi.. I am configuring a new postfix server but I must have missed something as the smtp server does not appear to be listening on port 25 (or anywhere else as faras I can tell). Is there something obvious I might have missed or a way to get more verbose logging so I can assertain what is going on?
[02:42:44] <Motoko-chan> Did you mess with master.conf?
[02:42:47] <Motoko-chan> Is postfix running?
[02:44:13] <Zand3r_> postfix is running - at least it appears to be
[02:44:30] <Zand3r_> I have added two lines to the master.conf file but I have not changed any existing lines
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[03:48:14] <Zand3r_> Under what circumstances would postfix log a "mail for example.com loops back to myself" message? I have not setup any virtual_aliases and am testing SASL - since Postfix knows of no virtual domains, should it not be relaying the email - whywould it thik it loops back?
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[03:51:39] <ek> Zand3r_: Maybe a $mydestination issue?
[03:52:24] <ek> Zand3r_: http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html\
[03:55:21] <Zand3r_> ek: I am testing with completely different domains to those used for the serve'rs hostname, etc. so it does not appear to be a $mydestination issue although I am double checking that now.
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[04:01:48] <Zand3r_> ek: I am sorry for waisting your time however I do appreciate you going to the effort to try and assist me. I located my problem. I am replacing an old server and ultimately want the new server to have the same hostname. Anyway, I was relaying mail from the old server to the new server for my testing and the fact that the old server was answerign with an identical hostname was the problem.
[04:02:30] <Zand3r_> I have changed the hostname of the new server temporarily and I am no longer getting the "loops back" message. Seems obvious in hindsight!
[04:04:59] <djs_2_6> Starting to configure a postfix server behind a firewall on my lan.  Been reading the configuration pages on the postfix site, and am a little confused.  To use this server behind the firewall, I have to set up a relay ON the firewall?
[04:06:55] <djs_2_6> BTW, the pf is providing NAT for the lan.
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[04:12:58] <ek> Zand3r_: Haha. Okay.
[04:13:01] <ek> Seems to make sense.
[04:13:41] <ek> djs_2_6: No. There doesn't need to be a relay there.
[04:13:49] <Zand3r_> ek: Yes - I had not read anywhere that I could not have two servers with the same hostname relay mail to each other however I suppsoe that's because ordinarily it would not make sense to have two servers with the same hostname.
[04:13:58] <ek> djs_2_6: Just set up NAT to forward the proper ports to the proper machine.
[04:14:15] <ek> Zand3r_: No. I wouldn't think it would.
[04:14:24] <ek> Glad you figured it out before too much stress though. :P
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[04:39:23] <djs_2_6> ek, thank you.  Was trying a guide I had found, but it did not work, so I am now just using the postfix docs.
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[04:43:41] <ek> djs_2_6: Welcome.
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[05:15:01] <daqqa1> when i define relay_domains , can i not put ip address in there?, every time i do that , it does not relay and errors out, when i put a name, then it works
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[05:57:02] <djs_2_6> Dumb question.  For myhostname parameter, current computer hostname has my machine name and my domain name.  Is that what the parameter answer should be, or should it be mail.mydomain.org?
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[06:10:18] <djs_2_6> Well, I tried the mail.mydomain.org for the myhostname and inet_interfaces parameters, and now get an error on a postfix reload - postfix: fatal: parameter inet_interfaces: no local interface found for 71.77.48.198
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[06:36:31] <djs_2_6> Anyone have pity on me, please?  I have read all I can find about the error and the inet_interfaces field, and the proxy_interfaces field on a hunch, and am still not understanding where the snag is.
[06:39:52] <rob0> I would guess proxy_interfaces is where that should go. inet_interfaces must designate local interfaces (bound on the Postfix machine.) 71.77.48.198 is not local.
[06:42:14] <djs_2_6> So, proxy_interfaces is for the external ip address, or the mail.mydomain.org?
[06:42:32] <rob0> !proxy_interfaces
[06:42:32] <knoba> rob0: 'proxy_interfaces' : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The network interface addresses that this mail system receives mail on by way of a proxy or network address translation unit. This setting extends the address list specified with the inet_interfaces parameter.
[06:45:06] <djs_2_6> Ok, and would this be necessary with my firewall redirecting port traffic in to this server?
[06:48:11] <rob0> yes, that's what network address translation means
[06:49:00] <djs_2_6> I was confused about what exactly was being redirected.  Thank you.
[06:50:08] <Badunkadun1> rob0: Hi
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[07:16:02] <Badunkadun1> rob0: Stumped!
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[11:47:46] <Terminator> Problem: Hotmail will not receive my mail?? Anything that I need to do from my end ... this used to work and all of a sudden it stopped
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[11:48:24] <Terminator> every other email service receives it as far as i have noticed
[11:48:43] <sysmonk> Terminator: you can do one thing .... stop using hotmail :)
[11:49:15] <Terminator> sysmonk: lol ... I don't ... but when my users send a mail out, hotmail doesn't receive it !
[11:50:12] <sysmonk> Terminator: you can look at hotmails postmasters page, they give some hints on that. But from my practice - those don't help
[11:50:32] <sysmonk> hotmail randomly ignored my mails, sometimes it put them in the junk mail folder
[11:50:41] <sysmonk> and sometimes they never saw the daylight
[11:51:30] <Terminator> well everything was working until 2 weeks ago and I thought maybe their junk mail filter had issues ... but it doesn't seem like it
[11:51:39] <Terminator> i always had 100's of junk mails in my hotmail....but now i barely have any
[11:51:51] <Terminator> and i wonder if their new algorithm is rooting mine out as well
[11:52:11] <Terminator> dnsreport says that i dont have an SPF record ... ???
[11:53:04] <sysmonk> SPF record is mostly optional
[11:53:20] <sysmonk> i do have a spf record, but hotmail dumps my emails somewhere anyway
[11:53:58] <Terminator> hmm
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[11:54:35] <Legality> hiya.. when sending an email trough a phpmailform, I get this error that I can see from the logs
[11:54:44] <Legality> Sender address rejected: IP address of MX host is a loopback address (in reply to RCPT TO command)
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[11:54:58] <sysmonk> Legality: where do you send the email too ?
[11:54:59] <sysmonk> to*
[11:55:14] <Legality> hmm.. to a local isps email
[11:55:25] <Legality> works fine on hotmail, yahoo, gmail etc
[11:55:25] <sysmonk> the domain is... ?
[11:55:29] <Legality> one sec
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[11:56:25] <Legality> pm
[11:57:04] <Terminator> sysmonk: where do i add that spf string
[11:57:39] <Legality> hehe  sysmonk is a busy man
[11:58:04] <Terminator> so many fish go find another
[11:58:05] <Terminator> :D
[12:00:01] <sysmonk> Legality: remember your problem with hotmail ?
[12:00:08] <Legality> yes
[12:00:19] <sysmonk> Terminator has the same prob
[12:00:21] <Terminator> aah lol
[12:00:25] <Terminator> delegation :D
[12:00:35] <Terminator> I was changing my TXT in the DNS
[12:01:13] <Terminator> is that the change for SPF ?
[12:01:37] <sysmonk> SPF is a IN TXT record in your domain
[12:01:48] <sysmonk> wich has a v=spf1 in the beginning of txt entry
[12:02:09] <Terminator> cool ... i made that change .. let me test hotmail again ...
[12:02:18] <sysmonk> like yourdomain.com IN TXT "v=spf1 ip4:xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx -all"
[12:02:53] <Terminator> v=spf1 a -all
[12:02:59] <Terminator> thats what i set it to
[12:03:06] <sysmonk> heh, as you wish :)
[12:03:17] <Terminator> its a for now ... just wanna see if thats the prob
[12:04:07] <sysmonk> Terminator: don't think you'll see that now
[12:04:13] <sysmonk> hotmail probably cached the entry
[12:04:20] <sysmonk> so you should wait for a few hours\
[12:04:22] <Terminator> right i dont
[12:04:24] <sysmonk> (depends on your TTL )
[12:04:25] <Terminator> i guess a day :|
[12:04:29] <Terminator> yah its 1 day
[12:04:32] <Legality> hotmail is a total bitch
[12:04:51] <Terminator> what i dont understand is that i didn't change anything
[12:04:52] <sysmonk> ye
[12:04:54] <sysmonk> i agree with Legality
[12:04:55] <Terminator> everything was workign fine
[12:05:11] <sysmonk> Terminator: it's hotmail, and it says everything
[12:05:12] <sysmonk> ;)
[12:05:15] <Badunkadun1> WHat should one do when outside hosts can't contact one's SMTP server
[12:05:16] <Terminator> apparantly most ppl use hotmail so i have to get it to work as ppl are 
[12:05:33] <Terminator> change the setting ??
[12:05:35] <sysmonk> Badunkadun1: check if the smtp server is up, and if your ISP doesn't block connections to your SMTP server
[12:05:44] <sysmonk> probably the ISP blocks the connections
[12:05:55] <Badunkadun1> possible
[12:06:18] <Terminator> I had a similar issue where my host had a hardware firewall blocking that port
[12:06:24] <Badunkadun1> When I run it on a different port, it can connect but doesn't do anything
[12:06:36] <Badunkadun1> let me be more specific
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[12:07:20] <Badunkadun1> when I run it on a different port, telnet can connect but it doesn't spit out any intro text nor react to HELO
[12:07:32] <Badunkadun1> Almost as if they're filtering that
[12:08:12] <TheOutlander> try to see if the host is blocking it ...
[12:08:26] <TheOutlander> btw, this is Terminator ... thats my second ID it connects on sometimes
[12:08:27] <Badunkadun1> How to tell besides it not working?
[12:08:48] <TheOutlander> can u telnet from within the server ?
[12:08:52] <TheOutlander> does it work fine there ?
[12:08:53] <Badunkadun1> yes
[12:09:01] <TheOutlander> has to be your firewall
[12:09:13] <Badunkadun1> not mine, my isp's
[12:09:16] <TheOutlander> right
[12:09:24] <TheOutlander> do u receive mail ?
[12:09:31] <Badunkadun1> not from outside
[12:09:39] <Badunkadun1> only from myself
[12:10:05] <TheOutlander> is your server setup to accept from outside ?
[12:10:39] <Badunkadun1> I don't restrict inet_connections
[12:10:50] <Badunkadun1> or whatever that is
[12:11:07] <Badunkadun1> interfaces
[12:11:54] <TheOutlander> im not sure exactly ... I'd start off with looking at the settings again and contacting the ISP ... mine was blocked by default ... ohh another thing is your MX record
[12:12:11] <Badunkadun1> but I can't even telnet
[12:12:24] <Badunkadun1> so I don't think it's a spam/SPF issue
[12:12:33] <Badunkadun1> I can ping my machine from outside
[12:12:50] <TheOutlander> well i had something similar and it was a blocked port
[12:12:51] <Badunkadun1> and access other services
[12:12:52] <TheOutlander> get that out of the equation
[12:13:00] <TheOutlander> try dig hostname.com
[12:13:08] <TheOutlander> see if it resolves to the correct ip
[12:13:15] <Badunkadun1> it does
[12:14:33] <Badunkadun1> How do you change the port in postfix?
[12:15:12] <TheOutlander> dunno ...
[12:15:23] <Badunkadun1> lol
[12:15:42] <Badunkadun1> i can do it elseways
[12:16:15] <TheOutlander> why dont u talk to the ISP first
[12:16:26] <TheOutlander> ur wasting time wihtout ruling that out
[12:16:33] <Badunkadun1> ok
[12:16:44] <Badunkadun1> I don't like them though.  They're stupid
[12:17:04] <Badunkadun1> And they always want me to buy additional services
[12:17:19] <TheOutlander> :D
[12:18:14] <Badunkadun1> Plus I don't wanna give them any ideas regarding banning services
[12:18:41] <TheOutlander> who is ur isp
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[12:34:45] <Badunkadun1> yep blocked
[12:35:10] <Badunkadun1> is there any way around that?
[12:36:00] <Badunkadun1> that i guess involves using their server?
[12:38:08] <Badunkadun1> doesn't look like ti
[12:38:14] <Badunkadun1> :'-(
[12:38:19] <Badunkadun1> :'(
[12:39:14] <Badunkadun1> What about tunnelling someplace?
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[12:50:18] <TheOutlander> well I doubt it that running smtp off 25 is a good idea
[12:50:25] <TheOutlander> outside domains communicate on 25 only
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[12:55:00] <Badunkadun1> right
[12:55:45] <Badunkadun1> Oh, I see, so if I tunnel it, I'd have to do so to someplace which doesn't run it's own and which wouldn't mind me running mine
[12:55:58] <Badunkadun1> a tough thing to find
[12:56:19] <Badunkadun1> *sigh*
[12:56:36] <TheOutlander> man im having this issue with hotmail not receiving my mails
[12:56:55] <Badunkadun1> my condolences
[12:57:44] <TheOutlander> :D
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[15:01:01] <shining> I've configured postfix to use my isp smtp server for sending mail. sending mail works fine to my gmail.com account, but it gets rejected on another domain. I get a return message with "local delivery failed"
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[15:21:25] <Zand3r> Hi. I am using Dovecot LDA and Dovecot SASL with the latest Postfix release. I have Dovecot reading mailbox details from a MySQL database. Authenticated SMTP seems to be working - only accounts in my MySQL database can send mail through the SMTP server. I am wondering if thee is a way to restrict permission to use Authenticated SMTP to only spcific accounts? i.e. Not every account that has a mailbox should be allowed to sen
[15:21:25] <Zand3r> d mail out via authenticated SMTP. I thought this was a Dovecot question but someone in the channel has suggested I ask here so please feel free to re-direct me if appropriate.
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[15:41:10] <shining> I understand it could be blocked if I was trying to send the mail directly, but since I'm going though my isp smtp server, why is it rejected?
[15:42:31] <lunaphyte> shining: what does the bounce actually say?
[15:43:10] <shining> the only error message I see is "local delivery failed"
[15:44:55] <shining> This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:  pacman-dev-request at archlinux dot org local delivery failed
[15:45:53] <lunaphyte> Zand3r: i would say you are right, it is more a dovecot question.  you could modify your sql schema to include a field as an on/off switch, i imagine.
[15:45:55] <shining> then I see the copy of the message, I see the message went through postfix, then my isp stmp server. so it looks fine to me, but I don't know anything about this
[15:46:20] <lunaphyte> shining: that's all it says?  it doesn't say why?
[15:46:41] <shining> no, unfortunately
[15:46:51] <shining> so I should ask them directly?
[15:46:55] <lunaphyte> you'll have to ask the owner of archlinux.org then.
[15:47:03] <shining> ok
[15:47:06] <lunaphyte> it may not have anything to do with you.
[15:47:29] <lunaphyte> have you tried sending it directly?
[15:47:51] <shining> I don't have a regular domain, I'm just using dyndns
[15:48:06] <lunaphyte> one of the many drawback to passing mail to other machines for delivery is you don't get to see the conversation with the final destination.
[15:48:13] <shining> that's why I'm using my isp as a relay
[15:48:14] <shining> ah
[15:48:37] <lunaphyte> you can still attempt direct delivery if you're using dyndns.
[15:48:59] <lunaphyte> for that matter, you could even do it manually with telnet.
[15:54:47] <shining> lunaphyte: erm actually, it doesn't change anything. I can still send mails to gmail.com , and archlinux.org still rejects it, with the same error
[15:55:14] <lunaphyte> rejects or bounces?
[15:56:11] <shining> I don't even know the difference :( Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
[15:56:45] <lunaphyte> that looks like a bounce.  was the message accepted for delivery by the final destination?
[15:59:05] <shining> looks so, the beginning of the header, I see : Received from ... (me) by archlinux.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) for pacman-dev-request at archlinux dot org; Sun, 08 Apr 2007 09:52:44 -0400
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[16:05:04] <ONY1> hi ppl
[16:05:46] <ONY1> russian postfix admins here?
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[16:38:26] <Atomy> hi, i just noticed every logged in user can freely define his "sender" mail adress how can i disable this?
[16:42:59] <shining> lunaphyte: oh, just sent a mail to mailman at archlinux dot org , and didn't receive any error message. that's weird
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[17:05:41] <lunaphyte> Atomy: see reject_sender_login_mismatch and smtpd_sender_login_maps .
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[17:07:33] <Atomy> thxs
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[17:08:13] <Atomy> lunaphyte: login mismatch causes to reject all outgoing mails
[17:10:19] <lunaphyte> it must be configured properly.
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[19:09:46] <cachoo> I am running postfix with mysql, postfix is chrooted to /var/spool/postfix and it is looking for mysql.sock in /var/run/mysqld/mysql.sock and there is no var/run/mysqld/mysql.sock in /var/spool/postfix
[19:09:52] <cachoo> how should I resolve this
[19:09:59] <cachoo> symlinking didn't work
[19:12:42] <cachoo> pk found my solution
[19:12:45] <cachoo> thanks for help
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[19:20:54] <Kael_Mo> i try to configure my postfix with mysql and tls. i receive but i can't send. It's the error : warning: SASL authentication problem: unknown password verifier
[19:22:21] <Kael_Mo> i changed my config like many tutorials
[19:24:32] <Kael_Mo> i look the mysql logs and there is not connexion
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[19:47:16] <djs_2_6> Hey all.  Was mostly successful in setting up my postfix main.cf, but am running into an error -
[19:47:17] <djs_2_6> virtual_alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfi
[19:47:24] <djs_2_6> Oops, wrong line
[19:47:56] <djs_2_6> do not list domain secure-dt.net in BOTH mydestination and
[19:47:57] <djs_2_6> >virtual_mailbox_domains
[19:49:43] <djs_2_6> There, that is the right one.  For my current setup, everything on my lan is on lan.mydomain.org, but I had just been using mydomain.org for the mydomain parameter.  Should I use lan.mydomain.org instead, and have mydomain.org for the virtual_mailbox_domain?
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[20:05:59] <lunaphyte> djs_2_6: you can use whatever you like.  just don't do it in more than one place.
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[20:22:54] <c_> hello, can I run a postfix mail server behind a nat box? and if so what should I do? I tried adding external ip of my nat box to the proxy_interfaces directive, but no success so far
[20:26:30] <henriknj> eh, forward port 25..
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[20:28:47] <c_> henriknj: heh, that part works ok, reading the logs I noticed it was denying relaying to its own domainname
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[20:47:09] <c_> do we have to do anything special to get postfix work with pine
[20:52:49] <devdas> no
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[21:34:28] <can> hello, what do I have to do so pine works with postfix? I know my mail server works with courier-imap, but pine on localhost wont read anyting sinc e it looks under /var/spool/mail/username I guess
[21:34:44] <devdas> pine -f Maildir, perhaps?
[21:34:50] <devdas> or configure pine to use imap?
[21:36:23] <can> devdas: where does postfix keep its mails
[21:36:32] <adaptr> well, duh - you don't usually configure an MTA to suit the client
[21:36:43] <adaptr> can: it doesn't, it's an MTA, not a mailbox
[21:37:10] <can> ok ok of course.
[21:37:17] <can> I am little bit old
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[23:04:17] <veke> Hi people.. i'm trying using postfixadmin without success. it does not create the mailboxes... i need to create the virtual mailboxes for some people... how can i do it via command line?
[23:06:25] <devdas> send a mail to the user
[23:07:48] <veke> how?
[23:08:01] <veke> there is a way to send it locally?
[23:08:05] <veke> via command line?
[23:09:08] <devdas> echo "test"|mail -s test user@domain
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[23:11:43] <veke> devdas, it does not work
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[23:14:04] <devdas> what do you mean by "does not work"?
[23:14:21] <veke> that postfix does not create the dir
[23:14:40] <veke> i'm following another howto
[23:15:12] <djs_2_6> Well, I have postfix set up, but am getting an error about a relayhost configuration problem, Host or domain name not found. Name service error for name=lan.mydomain.org type=AAAA: Host found but no data record of requested type
[23:15:49] <devdas> If you have the user registered with postfixadmin correctly, then the command I gave you _will_ create the maildir
[23:16:56] <devdas> Postfix needs to know that it handles $myorigin
[23:17:25] <devdas> add that domain to virtual_mailbox_domains
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[23:25:35] <djs_2_6> Now it is saying (mail for g1.lan.mydomain.org loops back to myself)
[23:26:30] <djs_2_6> And I put the value I had for $myorigin in the virtual_mailbox_domains
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[23:36:23] <Deep6> guys can anyone tell me why  postfix is trying to relay to a host that's in mydestination ?
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