[00:01:05] <flami> yeah im planing that too
[00:01:06] <flami> :P
[00:01:31] <flami> i mean i installed postfix and it runs and runs and never has any problem ^^
[00:01:53] <sysmonk> yeah, kinda like that
[00:02:21] <sysmonk> the "if it's not broken, why do i need to move it" way
[00:03:11] <flami> yep ... well update it from time to time but touch my configs ? never ^^^
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[00:06:14] <Badunkadunk> I'm trying to get postfix to change m2n+<newsgroup> at mydomain dot com to <newsgroup> at mynntpserver dot com.  I've tried creating aliasing m2n in virtual then creating a pcre file for m2n_transport like someone told me to but it doesn't work.  Help!
[00:06:15] <Badunkadunk> Can you use the commands listed in headers_check in a pcre file?
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[00:15:56] <devdas> yes
[00:16:08] <flami> yes ?
[00:16:39] <flami> he ran away :,(
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[01:58:04] <Badunkadunk> I'm trying to get postfix to change m2n+<newsgroup> at mydomain dot com to <newsgroup> at mynntpserver dot com.  I've tried creating aliasing m2n in virtual then creating a pcre file for m2n_transport like someone told me to but it doesn't work.  Help!
[01:58:06] <Badunkadunk> Can you use the commands listed in headers_check in a pcre file?
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[02:09:48] <magyar> hi, will transport_map will work for aliases?
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[03:27:31] <spike> hi there
[03:27:58] <spike> got a weird problem: I just installed rss2email, which convert rss to email and delivers to localhost ro whatever you tell it to, localhost in my case
[03:28:14] <spike> postfix locally works perfectly already with fetchmail and spam assassin
[03:28:42] <spike> now something weird happens: when I update the rss for the first time I get 336 emails in a few seconds
[03:28:57] <spike> it takes ages (>30 mins) to flush them all
[03:29:07] <spike> and even if I issue postfix flush, nothing will happen
[03:29:23] <spike> then slowly from time to time it'll do something
[03:29:45] <spike> what could it be causing it?
[03:29:50] <spike> the burst?
[03:31:24] <spike> it's not SA for sure
[03:31:25] <spike> it seems to be procmail...
[03:31:41] <spike> but no, hang on, emails are in the mailq
[03:31:49] <spike> so it's postfix, necessarily
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[05:05:33] <Badunkadunk> I'm trying to get postfix to change m2n+<newsgroup> at mydomain dot com to <newsgroup> at mynntpserver dot com.  I've tried creating aliasing m2n in virtual then creating a pcre file for m2n_transport like someone told me to but it doesn't work.  Help!
[05:05:35] <Badunkadunk> Can you use the commands listed in headers_check in a pcre file?
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[05:17:42] <Badunkadunk> Marsha Marsha Marsha!
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[06:24:52] <Badunkadunk> f3ew: ARe you there?
[06:24:58] <f3ew> yes
[06:25:14] <f3ew> Show postconf -n and logs, please
[06:26:26] <Badunkadunk> It's been suggested that I use 'address classes' but when I read the docs, they're domain based.
[06:26:50] <f3ew> You shouldn't need to use address classes
[06:27:03] <Badunkadunk> I plan on making distinctions based on whether there's an m2n
[06:27:08] <f3ew> Show me logs with per user transport_maps and canonical/generic_maps
[06:27:21] <f3ew> Hmmm
[06:27:35] <f3ew> You could do a check_recipient_access ...
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[06:29:03] <Badunkadunk> Well I think I might want a disticnt class.  I mean I only want to invoke lmtp transport on m2n emails
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[06:30:00] <Badunkadunk> I think I might have changed the per user transport stuff you had me do
[06:30:09] <Badunkadunk> I've been trying a bunch of stuff
[06:31:01] <f3ew> transport_maps work on the basis of destination address
[06:31:18] <f3ew> transport_maps = pcre:/etc/postfix/transport-pcre
[06:31:26] <f3ew> where transport-pcre contains
[06:32:26] <f3ew>  /m2n+(.+) at example\ dot com/    lmtp2:
[06:32:38] <Badunkadunk> okay
[06:32:54] <Badunkadunk> lemme try that
[06:33:54] <f3ew> Hmmm, wait
[06:34:24] <f3ew> Your address rewriting will actually happen before you get to that point
[06:34:44] <f3ew> Is there a reason you can't use a plussed address scheme?
[06:34:56] <f3ew> newsgroup+m2n at example dot com?
[06:35:06] <f3ew> Since Postfix will handle that part automagically
[06:35:45] <Badunkadunk> I was gonna use m2n+newsgroup
[06:36:41] <Badunkadunk> I just gotta get rid of the m2n before it gets handed off to lmtp
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[06:38:15] <Badunkadunk> THis get handled by trivial-rewrite
[06:38:52] <Badunkadunk> Hopefully in qmgr and not before cleanup
[06:38:58] <Badunkadunk> But I'm not sure about that
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[06:46:06] <Badunkadunk> What if I used a recipient_map to change the addr and then set relay_transport to be lmtp
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[07:40:50] <Badunkadunk> f3ew: The problem is that in the docs, it says that for example, for luser_relay you can use $user and $local but you cant get the "foo" in "user+foo"@blah
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[10:19:53] <jwickers> hi all, is there a simple way to deliver in /var/mail/<user>/ in Maildir format ?
[10:47:33] <f3ew> mail_spool_directory = /var/spool/mail/
[10:48:00] <Badunkadunk> oh your still here
[10:48:04] <Badunkadunk> f3ew: The problem is that in the docs, it says that for example, for luser_relay you can use $user and $local but you cant get the "foo" in "user+foo"@blah
[10:48:17] <Badunkadunk> But I don't even care
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[10:48:45] <Badunkadunk> I'd even like it if I could transport anything to lmtp2nntp successfully
[10:48:58] <Badunkadunk> I get  errno 451 4.4.2 destination#0
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[10:55:33] <Badunkadunk> I was hoping that passing stuff via real postmail would fix that
[10:55:40] <Badunkadunk> postfix
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[11:10:27] <MaGre> is there anything more than postfix-admin for users administrations?
[11:16:47] <henriknj> ain't it good enough?
[11:17:20] <Badunkadunk> I don't have that
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[11:31:06] <marcster> hi. I have my mail server within my lan, and have my firewall configured as the MX server for my domain. mails are forwarded to and from the firewall and mail server. I have seen configurations where mail server has a public IP (I believe this is called DMZ?). Why would i want to put my mail server in DMZ instead of internal lan?
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[12:09:22] <GiabboO> hi all
[12:09:37] <Badunkadunk> They hate you here
[12:09:55] <GiabboO> lol
[12:10:09] <Fullmetal-Mavez> AMAGAD PLZ HALP GiabboO
[12:10:27] <GiabboO> ??
[12:10:34] <Fullmetal-Mavez> !seen smesjz
[12:10:35] <knoba> Fullmetal-Mavez: smesjz was last seen in #postfix 3 days, 14 hours, 16 minutes, and 8 seconds ago saying: <smesjz> what's in the logs?
[12:10:38] <Fullmetal-Mavez> grrr
[12:11:02] <Fullmetal-Mavez> he's probably shaggin or something
[12:11:02] <GiabboO> hey all
[12:11:03] <GiabboO>  imaplogin: /etc/courier/shared/index: No such file or directory
[12:11:04] <Badunkadunk> knoba: Who are you
[12:11:09] <GiabboO> could anyone explain me this error ?
[12:11:24] <Badunkadunk> no, they hate you
[12:11:38] <Fullmetal-Mavez> heh
[12:11:45] <GiabboO> lol
[12:11:50] <GiabboO> they dont hate me =)
[12:12:02] <GiabboO> I know f3ew dont hate me :p
[12:12:26] <Fullmetal-Mavez> f3ew doesn't hate nobody he loves all
[12:12:33] <Badunkadunk> He hates me
[12:12:50] <Badunkadunk> and now he hates GiabboO
[12:13:50] <GiabboO> looool
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[12:36:52] <GiabboO> :S
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[12:45:42] <kwek> still fighting the same problem. Our mail.log is flooded by the following entry and we have no idea where it comes from:
[12:45:43] <kwek> Apr  6 12:45:17 asterix postfix/smtpd[32461]: lost connection after CONNECT from localhost.localdomain[127.0.0.1]
[12:45:43] <kwek> Apr  6 12:45:17 asterix postfix/smtpd[32461]: disconnect from localhost.localdomain[127.0.0.1]
[12:46:14] <GiabboO> cat /etc/hosts
[12:47:15] <kwek> thats normal.. just 127.0.0.1 there.. or was that not for me
[12:47:34] <GiabboO> ok now
[12:48:17] <GiabboO> cat /var/spool/postfix/etc/hosts
[12:48:29] <GiabboO> this must be the same of /etc/hosts
[12:49:02] <kwek> theres a hard ip there but same in nameserver
[12:49:07] <kwek> ill update it from /etc/hosts now
[12:49:11] <GiabboO> ok
[12:49:18] <GiabboO> hard ip means ipv6 ?
[12:49:31] <GiabboO> then restart postfix
[12:49:38] <kwek> a static ip
[12:49:41] <GiabboO> ok
[12:49:44] <kwek> for our mail.xxx.com server
[12:49:48] <GiabboO> perfect
[12:49:49] <kwek> but removed that now
[12:49:50] <GiabboO> now restart postfix
[12:50:16] <kwek> k done
[12:50:21] <GiabboO> now check
[12:50:39] <GiabboO> postconf -n
[12:51:11] <GiabboO> be sure you have mynetworks =
[12:51:35] <kwek> to empty? now its mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8 10.0.3.0/8 192.168.8.0/24
[12:52:06] <GiabboO> pretty fine
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[12:52:13] <kwek> maybe should've mentioned it.. this is a typical debian-sarge mysql amavis setup
[12:52:23] <GiabboO> ok
[12:52:24] <kwek> and working fine, just flooding the log
[12:52:28] <GiabboO> m
[12:52:37] <GiabboO> do you have any service wich try to send you emails ?
[12:53:15] <kwek> not that im aware of.. but if there is id like to catch the bastard
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[12:55:34] <GiabboO> good luck!
[12:55:53] <GiabboO> try to have more verbose on smtp
[12:55:58] <GiabboO> on /etc/postfix/master.cf
[12:56:02] <kwek> well we did
[12:56:05] <GiabboO> add -v to smtp
[12:56:10] <GiabboO> and ?
[12:56:22] <kwek> and we are pretty sure that postfix is responsible for connecting
[12:56:28] <kwek> right trickie? you did a tcpdump
[12:56:34] <GiabboO> thats the only output you get ?
[12:56:54] <trickie> kwek: we didn't add -v
[12:57:02] <trickie> we used debug_peer
[12:57:09] <GiabboO> ah
[12:57:10] <kwek> to the postfix daemon? think i did that
[12:57:15] <kwek> but not much more
[12:57:21] <GiabboO> well just check ur master.cf
[12:57:40] <GiabboO> are you skilled with courier-imap guys ?
[12:57:50] <trickie> not me
[12:57:55] <kwek> not me
[12:57:57] <GiabboO> ok
[12:57:58] <GiabboO> lol
[12:58:03] <kwek> hehe
[12:58:10] <kwek> but what does courier have to do with it
[12:58:13] <kwek> we are using it yes
[12:58:24] <GiabboO> i have issue with courier and horde
[12:58:59] <trickie> sorry i have never messed with it :)
[12:58:59] <kwek> so we all have issues
[12:59:59] <GiabboO> ^^
[13:00:08] <GiabboO> i will solve it today but this is making me angry
[13:00:11] <GiabboO> i have 2 installation
[13:00:15] <GiabboO> like clones
[13:00:19] <GiabboO> but one give me an error lol
[13:01:41] <kwek> Apr  6 13:01:02 asterix postfix/smtpd[9945]: connect from localhost.localdomain[127.0.0.1]
[13:01:41] <kwek> Apr  6 13:01:02 asterix postfix/smtpd[9945]: match_list_match: localhost.localdomain: no match
[13:01:41] <kwek> Apr  6 13:01:02 asterix postfix/smtpd[9945]: match_list_match: 127.0.0.1: no match
[13:01:45] <kwek> getting that in syslog now
[13:01:57] <kwek> that have to do with that networks?
[13:02:47] <trickie> http://rafb.net/p/HFQi2P78.html
[13:02:52] <trickie> thats the more verbose log
[13:02:59] <GiabboO> brb
[13:03:01] <trickie> for one connection
[13:03:59] <GiabboO> ok
[13:05:06] <GiabboO> smtp restrictions ?
[13:05:32] <kwek> where are they defined
[13:05:50] <GiabboO> show me
[13:06:17] <trickie> smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes
[13:06:17] <trickie> broken_sasl_auth_clients = yes
[13:06:17] <trickie> smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, permit_sasl_authenticated, reject_unauth_destination
[13:06:20] <trickie> smtpd_use_tls = yes
[13:06:25] <trickie> we got that in main.cf
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[13:07:14] <kwek> mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8 10.0.3.0/8 192.168.8.0/24
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[13:07:37] <trickie> also relayhost =
[13:09:28] <GiabboO> i think you have any application wich try to send you something...
[13:12:02] <trickie> yeah, happens so quickly and so many times a second that we are having toruble finding out what process is doing it
[13:12:13] <trickie> netstat or lsof show us nothing
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[13:13:24] <trickie> would our imap server ever need to connect to postfix on port 25?
[13:13:38] <trickie> that may be a silly question... but ask anyway
[13:13:42] <kwek> but why is it refusing it, i can connect to localhost:25
[13:13:57] <trickie> yeah true
[13:14:04] <trickie> i can send mail via telnet
[13:14:05] <kwek> well maybe its not refusing it
[13:14:13] <trickie> using ehlo localhost.localdomain
[13:14:24] <kwek> check the log, it sends the banner
[13:15:00] <kwek> so its the proces that hangs up
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[13:18:18] <trickie> yeah it is the process
[13:18:23] <trickie> sending a rst packet
[13:18:28] <trickie> and the connection is closed
[13:19:39] <trickie> the thing is... we had a amavis content_filter, and the same thing would happen to amavis, a process would connect get the banner and then reset
[13:19:47] <trickie> several times a second
[13:20:11] <trickie> we killed the content filter, and now what ever process was going straight to amavis is now just going to port 25
[13:20:32] <kwek> amavis is still flooding logs with: SMTP: NOTICE: client broke the connection without a QUIT ()
[13:20:38] <kwek> and yea content_filter is disabled
[13:21:46] <kwek> hi.. we have a unknown process connecting to our mailserver (localhost:25). It connects, receives the banner and sends a RST packet. Any hints how to identify that proces?
[13:21:51] <kwek> arg
[13:21:55] <kwek> wrong
[13:22:14] <kwek> did that in ##linux trickie
[13:22:21] <trickie> k
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[13:36:10] <schultzconsult> Hi...
[13:37:40] <schultzconsult> I would like to restrict the number of connections made from a given smtp server to my mail server. An eksampel: Server connects, but should ony be allowed to send 1 e-mail pr. 10 seconds?
[13:38:54] <schultzconsult> Right now, the server cant handle mail form other smtp servers because this server keep on having connection
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[13:56:55] <Perun> hi
[13:57:18] <Perun> can postfix already do a domain source routing without a patch?
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[14:03:00] <Mavvie> Perun: yes.
[14:03:53] <Perun> since wich version?
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[14:07:29] <Mavvie> ehm... check the history file.
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[15:10:21] <d1ce> hello :)
[15:11:49] <d1ce> easy question for someone. I have my postfix setup and listening on port 25 - all fine there. I need to relay to another mail server for certain usernames aaa at domain dot com bbb at domain dot com etc...one user I need to deliver mail locally (for webmail purposes)...can someone please tell me what postfix config area I need to look into? virtual mailboxes?
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[15:27:03] <d1ce> what is the format of "address" in virtual_alias_maps? I need to relay to a non standard port...can I get away with [ip]:port? or...ip:port?
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[15:37:01] <d1ce> *so* confused :/
[15:38:20] <R1ck> address is a mail address, not a server name
[15:40:09] <d1ce> ok, so how do I implement this? the mail server is named mail.domain.com, i need it to accept mail for say, 10 users, but I need it to forward mail to another host for 9 of those users, keeping the 1 users mail local....
[15:40:38] <d1ce> i'm going round in circles trying to understand which of the features i should be focusing on
[15:40:38] <R1ck> I think you need transport_maps
[15:41:18] <R1ck> http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#transport_maps
[15:41:47] <d1ce> ah ha
[15:41:59] <d1ce> that looks promising - thanks :)
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[15:58:11] <roe> Yesterday there was a tremendous spike in the amount of rejections I had, so much so that they were almost constantly flooding my maximum postfix connections, what are the consequences of upping the maximum number of connections postfix will accept?
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[16:02:42] <cpm> less spam for a while
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[17:08:30] <mordaunt> is this line ok?
[17:08:32] <mordaunt> mynetworks = hash:/usr/local/etc/postfix/my_network,hash:/usr/local/etc/postfix/network_table
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[17:12:09] <rob0> The line's fine, but it will only work if the referenced hash: files contain the right information.
[17:13:08] * cpm hashes rob0
[17:17:42] <rob0> Curses! I'm shredded and mixed with diced potatoes!
[17:17:51] <cpm> and tasty too!
[17:18:18] <rob0> Nah, I'm too bitter.
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[17:41:00] <mordaunt> lol
[17:42:33] <mordaunt> I'm kind of grasping at straws here. Instead of rejecting email to non-existent users i'm getting this..  relay=virtual, delay=3219, delays=3219/0.02/0/0, dsn=4.3.5, status=deferred (mail system configuration error)
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[17:46:08] <rob0> Somewhere above would be the postfix/virtual error.
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[17:50:59] <mordaunt> looking
[17:52:03] <mordaunt> yep there is an error from postfix/virtual
[17:52:08] <mordaunt> errors
[17:52:28] <mordaunt>  relay=virtual, delay=0.42, delays=0.32/0.06/0/0.04, dsn=5.1.1, status=bounced (unknown user:
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[17:54:11] <mordaunt> warning: recipient blah: not found in virtual_uid_maps  <-- hmm
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[18:01:25] <mordaunt> i don't have anything about uid_maps in the main.cf... i just used the old main.cf on the new postfix....
[18:02:48] <mordaunt> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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[18:10:07] <yoanis_gil> hi
[18:10:37] <yoanis_gil> do you know of any postfix log parser which store he's data in a database?
[18:10:38] <tecnico> anyone using MailScanner with mcafee ? Have you been getting frequent DNS problems with their download server?
[18:14:17] <tecnico> yoanis_gil: you could probably do it using syslog. I used syslog-ng a while back to send all logs to a database, then there I could sort them. You could however make a filter on syslog-ng and just send maillog to the DB.  Look at http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/syslog-ng.htm   http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_setup_PHP-Syslog-NG
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[18:15:44] <yoanis_gil> thanks
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[18:57:18] <adh> greetings all got a second?
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[19:04:43] <Badunkadun1> no
[19:06:50] <adh> lol
[19:15:42] <adh> how does postfix determine the IP of the mail server to send defered messages to?
[19:19:41] <Badunkadun1> It asks your mom
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[19:22:52] <adh> funny guy
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[19:23:31] <LordBurrito> G'day.  Is something awry with the postfix-users mailing list?
[19:25:36] <pickcoder> adh: If I'm not mistaken all outgoing mail is determined by MX records, unless there isn't one. Then it's the domain's IP.
[19:27:11] <pickcoder> there is a parameter "disable_dns_lookups" turns off DNS lookups and relies on getaddrinfo() on the local system
[19:27:57] <adh> pickcoder: thanks!
[19:28:31] <adh> basically the mail server sits behind a firewall and is attempting to connect the frontside address of the mail server to deliver said mail's
[19:29:33] <adh> I have a few mails needing to be flushed, but postfix is connecting to the outside address instead of localhost.
[19:29:45] <pickcoder> adh: you need local DNS services
[19:29:53] <adh> yep :)
[19:30:14] <pickcoder> unless it's all local mail
[19:30:18] <adh> I need to have postfix realize that it does not have the ip of the mail server local, and to connect locally..is that possible?
[19:30:19] <pickcoder> then you can disable DNS and use /etc/hosts
[19:30:24] <adh> bah!
[19:30:25] <adh> :D
[19:31:11] <LordBurrito> You just need to point /etc/resolv.conf to a (recursive) nameserver, is all.
[19:31:30] <pickcoder> LordBurrito: if there is one...
[19:31:36] <adh> define recursive pls
[19:31:57] <LordBurrito> Can be queried about stuff outside its own zone and sub-zones
[19:32:11] <LordBurrito> Basically
[19:32:20] <pickcoder> adh: where is your nameserver?
[19:32:24] <adh> internal
[19:32:25] <LordBurrito> pickcoder: Few ISPs don't offer one
[19:32:30] <adh> we run our own.
[19:32:37] <pickcoder> adh: do you not have a local zone?
[19:33:22] <adh> I do, but postfix is attempting to connect to our public address of the mail server, which lives on the firewall.
[19:33:32] <Badunkadun1> he has a local bone
[19:34:01] <adh> I can mod the fw rules, but I figured it may be easier to have postfix not connect back to the public IP, but locally...
[19:34:32] <adh> I tried moding /etc/hosts and verifying nsswitch has files,dns but postfix is using dns.
[19:36:52] <pickcoder> adh: IMO, the best option is to setup a local zone for your LAN and have non-local zone queries go to your ISP
[19:36:59] <pickcoder> that's basically what LordBurrito is saying
[19:37:44] <pickcoder> look up recursion for bind
[19:39:41] <goodshit> Anyone know why the email is being Queued mail for delivery? I'm using postfix, I mean I can send to gmail.com yahoo.com but everytime i try to send to hotmail.com it always say Queued mail for delivery. For gmail & yahoo.com It just delivery it right away? anyone know why its being qued up.
[19:39:43] <goodshit> Apr  5 10:57:38 filter postfix/smtp[66200]: 1BE4C2E04C: to=<aboyzzz at hotmail dot com>, relay=mx1.hotmail.com[65.54.244.136]:25, delay=2, delays=0.1/0.01/0.88/1, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250  <001e01c777ac$10c98130$325c8390$@com> Queued mail for delivery)
[19:39:58] <goodshit> if i email from hotmail to my email server it work
[19:40:06] <goodshit> and i can reply back, and then hotmail will recieve the email... wired
[19:40:21] <goodshit> anyone know what is going on with hotmail?
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[19:41:26] <LordBurrito> goodshit: Hotmail is brain-dead.
[19:41:38] <goodshit> fuck up
[19:41:56] <goodshit> i was reading a forum saying if you email hotmail with a tag http://join.msn.com
[19:42:01] <goodshit> their filter will let it pass thru :)
[19:42:06] <goodshit> thats gay
[19:42:13] <goodshit> and my spf is working
[19:42:14] <LordBurrito> goodshit: High-volume mail servers usually queue Hotmail destinations separately so it won't degrade email delivery to more sane, better-run systems.
[19:43:08] <LordBurrito> Well, M$ didn't invent SPF, so don't expect them to pay it any heed.
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[20:01:04] <vsamel> Hello! I am very new to postfix and I would like to use it such that all emails sent from a specific address are redirected to a particular script. I searched but did not find much help. Could you please provide me information or point to some good documentation in this regard? Thanks
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[20:06:46] <pickcoder> vsamel: http://www.postfix.org/FILTER_README.html#dynamic_filter
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[20:30:46] <adh> thanks for the help....I found the error...misconfigured aliases on a server.
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[20:57:06] <schultzconsult> Hi, I'm trying to use smtpd_client_connection_rate_limit = 2 to solve a temorary hardware problem
[20:57:37] <schultzconsult> but it does not seeme to me that it has no effect? is it correct to have it in main.cf
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[21:30:06] <ncaller> Is it possible to configure postfix to deliver all messages to Maildir/'s for their users, but save each message to a separate mysql database for archival as well?
[21:30:35] <Mr||Dave> Hi, I've been more of a qmail/courier person up until now. I'm trying to figure out if postfix (without multiple copies) can handle smtp traffic on multiple IPs (where each IP corresponds to a domain) both on incoming and outgoing. I don't need to be told how, I'll figure that out myself, I just need to know if it's doable.
[21:31:18] <LordBurrito> ncaller: See always_bcc
[21:31:22] <Mr||Dave> ie. 192.168.0.1 will be mail.example1.com and 192.168.0.2 will be mail.example2.com and all relevant smtp traffic should identify it as such (HELOs, etc)
[21:31:29] <ncaller> thanks LordBurrito
[21:32:37] <rob0> Dave: single copy, multiple instances, different config_directory and spools. Set inet_interfaces as needed.
[21:33:44] <Mr||Dave> There's no way to do it in one config? I found what I thought were directions for listening in master.cf (-o smtpd_banner=smtp.domain1.org)
[21:34:04] <ncaller> ok now with always_bcc is it possible for normal mails to be delivered to Maildir's and still bcc into a mysql database?
[21:34:06] <Mr||Dave> I'm not against multiple instances, figured it might be simpler though.
[21:34:56] <Mr||Dave> (err, figured that one config that could handle all the instances would be simpler, is what I mean)
[21:36:19] <LordBurrito> ncaller: I would imagine so.  You'd always_bcc to a script, which would do what you want.
[21:36:57] <LordBurrito> ncaller: You'd have to write the code to put it in the db the way you wanted.
[21:37:34] <LordBurrito> ncaller: There was a SysAdmin magazine article describing just such a system a year or two ago, btw.
[21:37:35] <rob0> Mr||Dave: you can do the listeners that way, but it would be a mess (if even possible) to keep the outgoing transports correlated.
[21:38:34] <rob0> It might be possible, but I'm sure the multiple instances would be easier.
[21:40:10] <Mr||Dave> Hmm, OK, that's why Google couldn't find me much about doing it. Thanks, rob.
[21:43:26] <hparker> Oh my... Heya rob0, LordBurrito
[21:43:41] <hparker> rob0: Your boy there yet?
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[21:46:47] <LordBurrito> Hey hparker
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[21:52:37] <ncaller> cd
[21:52:42] <ncaller> whups sorry
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[22:10:35] <cjsoftuk> Small problem: I used useradd to add new users to my system, but it didn't add the relevent mail entries.  I have created the relevent blank files in /var/spool/mail/, but it still rejects e-mail sent to the new user.  What else do I need to do?
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[22:18:39] <LordBurrito> cjsoftuk: Examine the log file to see why?
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[23:02:16] <plee> 554 5.7.1 <unknown[192.168.1.5]>: Client host rejected: Access denied     << I get this when trying to deliver a mail.
[23:02:24] <rob0> hparker: He was here only for a weekend; he's back in Topeka now.
[23:02:46] <rob0> Had a real nice visit. And he was offered a job here, which he's going to take.
[23:03:18] <plee> Apr  7 00:01:45 mail postfix/smtpd[2570]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from unknown[192.168.1.5]: 554 5.7.1 <unknown[192.168.1.5]>: Client host rejected: Access denied; from=<test at test dot com> to=<kurt at linuxportalen dot net> proto=ESMTP helo=<linuxportalen.net>   << and this is from the maillog
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[23:06:04] <hparker> rob0: Good to hear!
[23:06:08] <sw> guys, there used to be a link leading to howtos in the topic a while ago.. can't seem to find that link again.. hosted at xs4all.nl as far as i remember
[23:06:33] <rob0> nixcartel.org/~devdas/postfix.html ?
[23:06:59] <sw> rob0, nope..
[23:07:37] <rob0> which one did you want?
[23:07:53] <sw> it was actually a wiki with links to several howtos about just anything postfix
[23:08:13] <rob0> postfixwiki.org maybe
[23:09:07] <sw> rob0, thanks.. was mislead by the xs4all domain :)
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[23:40:35] <schultzconsult> how do I force postfix to make a try on a bunch of deferred e-mails ?
[23:40:59] <bda> postqueue -f
[23:42:52] <schultzconsult> thanks
[23:44:27] <bda> Note that flushing the deferred queue may make dest servers unhappy with you, depending on factors like previous retry rates, number of messages, etc.
[23:44:46] <bda> It can also make the qmgr somewhat angry if it's busy.
[23:45:36] <schultzconsult> it's from my own backup mail server to the primary server ;-)
[23:45:43] <bda> *nod*
[23:46:23] <schultzconsult> but it semes like postfix isn't doing anything to deliver...
[23:47:10] <bda> As in, nothing is appearing the logs? Messages aren't being moved from the deferred queue to the active queue, or..?
[23:47:13] <schultzconsult> 100% idle on the system for about 5 minuts now... and no sign of connection from backup to primary server
[23:47:35] <schultzconsult> qshape active is showing the correct numbers
[23:47:48] <bda> Check mail.crit to see if a misconfiguration is causing postfix to flap?
[23:48:16] <bda> Or that it's actually running, or yadda.
[23:48:39] <schultzconsult> ahe, it's just a bit slow, now something is happening
[23:48:49] <bda> Weird.
[23:50:18] <schultzconsult> yep, but the problem would not have been there in the first place if I could make the smtpd_client_connection_rate_limit = 2 work
[23:51:34] <schultzconsult> postfix does not react on it, some servers keep on sending 10+ e-mails in a row, which they should not be able to according to smtpd_client_connection_rate_limit = 2
[23:53:10] <bda> They are reusing the connection to send other messages, as opposed to making new connections for each message?
[23:53:37] <schultzconsult> ahe, so I need to stop them in sending more than one message at a time
[23:53:49] <bda> I suppose.
[23:54:05] <bda> Though it would probably be cheaper to just up the number of active smtpds to something reasonable.
[23:54:26] <schultzconsult> smtpd_client_connection_count_limit = 1
[23:54:37] <bda> Otherwise you are going to incur built/break-down as the sender has to discon/recon for the next message...
[23:54:42] <bda> shrug.
[23:54:46] <bda> smtpds are not expensive.
[23:55:17] <schultzconsult> it's just a temporar solution untill the new hardware is in place to keep up with 100.000 e-mails
[23:56:17] <schultzconsult> the problem is there is 10 servers constantly posting messages to the server for one e-mail address, and they are using all the smtpds
[23:56:56] <schultzconsult> if I can limit them to just use some and leave the rest for everybody else, then it would be nice
[23:56:58] <bda> I would use firewall rules to manage those connections.
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