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[00:41:48] <CIA-82> SFE loganbruns: SFEzzuf.spec: initial spec.
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[01:31:13] <conbot> they killed opensolaris :/
[01:31:57] <fleyta> oh, which horrible news. we will all suffer from that loss
[01:32:11] <conbot> yes we will.
[01:32:29] <conbot> i feel like there's something missing from me now.
[01:32:33] <conbot> nah
[01:32:38] <conbot> i just use solaris 11.
[01:32:52] <fleyta> news for you: Opensolaris is gone since 2010
[01:32:55] <conbot> hey, what happened to OpenIndiana and other sorts>
[01:33:00] <conbot> ik
[01:33:19] <conbot> so what do you use now?
[01:33:32] <conbot> hmm
[01:33:32] <fleyta> *sigh*
[01:33:34] <conbot> i wonder
[01:33:44] <conbot> did opensolaris actually use system v code?
[01:33:49] <fleyta> read the topic, visit #illumos
[01:33:51] <fleyta> yes
[01:34:12] <conbot> wow. and they gave out system v source code?
[01:34:35] <fleyta> oh man, this is the channel of the lost souls
[01:35:21] <fleyta> con: read wikipedia, read entry about sco vs novell, opensolaris, illumos and other entries
[01:35:21] <conbot> lol
[01:35:35] <conbot> sure
[01:35:41] <conbot> sco has been taken over
[01:35:54] <conbot> by some shit called unXis
[01:36:08] <conbot> gtg
[01:36:58] <fleyta> they prey on the lost souls called customers
[01:40:05] <alanc> and yes, you can see lots of AT&T copyrights in the OpenSolaris sources from the released SVR4 code
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[01:49:57] <conbot> dang
[01:50:26] <conbot> wasn't there a port of system v to x86?
[01:50:35] <alanc> yes
[01:50:41] <conbot> i could have sworn there was an x86 AT&T pc
[01:50:49] <conbot> well then
[01:50:51] <alanc> yes
[01:50:54] <conbot> lol fleyta
[01:51:15] <alanc> and the ones that became Xenix, UnixWare, OpenServer, and of course, Solaris x86
[01:51:25] <conbot> joy != (sun += oracle)
[01:51:35] <conbot> yep
[01:51:59] <conbot> my question: why is sco/unxis still showing off unixware?
[01:52:07] <conbot> they haven't had a release for like 5 years
[01:52:25] <conbot> plus unixware is just another commercial flavor
[01:52:34] <conbot> nothing special about it, really
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[01:53:00] <conbot> solaris 10 had 60% java, solaris 11 is "the best operating system in the world"
[01:53:23] <alanc> 60% java?
[01:53:30] <conbot> oracle wanted a large solaris cluster, then decided to go for a medium cluster, then settled for the least effort possible.
[01:53:49] <conbot> slanc, yes, it appears a lot of solaris 10 components require java
[01:53:54] <conbot> even the installer does :/
[01:53:59] <conbot> my question: why
[01:54:26] <alanc> certainly not 60% of the OS components needed java
[01:54:33] <conbot> shouldn't sun have learned from their experience with JavaOS?
[01:54:50] <alanc> and the non-gui installers didn't use java that I recall, only the gui
[01:54:52] <conbot> alanc, not needed, i'm talking about JWM's components
[01:54:58] <conbot> yeah
[01:55:11] <conbot> man i shouldn't chosen the text install
[01:55:23] <conbot> still, why does the graphical install need java
[01:55:28] <alanc> if you mean JDS, the desktop system, it only had about 4 java programs, compared to a couple hundred GNOME & Mozilla/Firefox bits that were C/C++
[01:55:52] <alanc> because it was the system the gui designers chose to build the gui
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[01:56:29] <conbot> alanc, got me there
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[04:30:15] <CIA-82> illumos Richard Lowe <richlowe at richlowe dot net>: 1165 SUNWarbel/driver-network-arbel should be removed (fix packaging)
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[10:13:14] <EgS> I have a strange(?) behavior regarding hot spares...
[10:13:31] <EgS> one of the disks in a raid-z1 failed and was automatically replaced by the hot spare
[10:13:35] <EgS> so far so good
[10:13:51] <EgS> then I turned the machine off and replaced the faulty drive
[10:14:06] <EgS> after resilvering the pool is back to a healthy state
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[10:14:23] <EgS> but since that reboot, the spare is marked as unavailable (cannot open)
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[10:14:39] <EgS> how can I get the spare back to normal sate?
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[10:24:48] <ryankask> I want to run script on my machine that reports the available memory on my solaris systems. I'm looking for "free -m" for Solaris (i.e., the answer in mb). Is there a simple way to do this?
[10:25:21] <ryankask> The script will run a shell command on the remote machine and report back the result
[10:25:31] <seanmcg> echo ::memstat | mdb -k
[10:26:01] <seanmcg> that gives you a break down of where memory is being used and how much is free
[10:26:14] <ryankask> when I've tried that it tells me /dev/ksyms doesn't exist
[10:26:26] <ryankask> i will do a little more research based on that error
[10:26:26] <ryankask> thanks
[10:29:06] <seanmcg> eh ? what version of solaris are you on ?
[10:29:26] <seanmcg> the mdb has to be run as root or a user with the right privs
[10:29:53] <seanmcg> /dev/ksyms has to be there.
[10:33:25] <ryankask> I'm using Joyent's "Cloud" version of OpenSolaris. I'm not too familiar with what the changes they've made.
[10:33:55] <seanmcg> you running as a guest ?
[10:34:12] <seanmcg> that can explain why there's no /dev/ksyms
[10:34:32] <ryankask> yes I am running as a guest
[10:35:02] <ryankask> or as a non-global zone. I'm not sure if that's the same thing
[10:35:23] <seanmcg> ya a ngz will not see /dev/ksyms by default.
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[10:38:54] <ryankask> thanks for your help.
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[10:40:29] <uw> anyone using a Supermicro sata controller with opensolaris or solaris11?
[10:40:57] <uw> the one that uses Marvell 9480?
[10:41:13] <uw> could not find answer on oracle HCL
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[14:16:53] <snowklein> may i post a question about solaris 11 zone routing?
[14:17:12] <snowklein> i had originally tried to configure a zone in the sol10 style
[14:17:21] <snuff-home> just ask.. if someone knows they'll answer maybe
[14:17:31] <snowklein> with set physical=
[14:17:46] <snowklein> learning about the anet default interface
[14:17:59] <snowklein> anyway, i configured everything after-the-fact
[14:18:01] <snowklein> using anet
[14:18:13] <snowklein> and my default route is not persistent across reboots
[14:18:21] <snowklein> despite using route with a -p
[14:20:14] <snowklein> i've used the following command: route -p add default 192.168.1.1
[14:20:33] <snowklein> which has worked
[14:20:39] <snowklein> root@toledo:~# netstat -nr
[14:20:39] <snowklein> Routing Table: IPv4
[14:20:41] <snowklein> Destination Gateway Flags Ref Use Interface
[14:20:44] <snowklein> default 192.168.1.1 UG 1 0
[14:20:45] <snowklein> 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 2 0 lo0
[14:20:47] <snowklein> 192.168.1.0 192.168.1.27 U 3 3 net0
[14:20:49] <snowklein> Routing Table: IPv6
[14:20:50] <snowklein> Destination/Mask Gateway Flags Ref Use If
[14:20:51] <snowklein> ::1 ::1 UH 2 0 lo0
[14:21:05] <snowklein> but the default route is not there after init 6 or zoneadm reboot
[14:21:17] <snowklein> any suggestions?
[14:21:23] <snowklein> this is solaris 11
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[14:52:43] <z0rb> snowklein: out of interest 'cat /etc/inet/static_routes'
[14:53:06] <snowklein> sure thing
[14:53:07] <snowklein> one sec
[14:53:24] <z0rb> also this is a zone? maybe you've got it locked down?
[14:54:47] <snowklein> ok
[14:54:51] <snowklein> i think i know what it might be
[14:54:58] <snowklein> # File generated by route(1M) - do not edit.
[14:54:59] <snowklein> default 192.168.1.1 -ifp vnic0
[14:55:12] <snowklein> i wanted to set this up originally using a vnic
[14:55:15] <snowklein> the vnic0
[14:55:23] <snowklein> which is what i used during the original creation
[14:55:33] <snowklein> but i removed it from the zone config
[14:55:49] <snowklein> and am not sure why it persists in the zone
[14:55:56] <snowklein> i'm not sure where the artefacts are
[14:55:59] <snowklein> :(
[14:56:07] <snowklein> artifacts
[14:56:25] <snowklein> it should be net0 instead of vnic0
[14:57:33] <z0rb> I haven't played with this but how about trying to delete the persistant to vnic0 and create a new one to net0?
[15:00:03] <snowklein> That's a good idea
[15:00:07] <snowklein> i'll give it a whirl
[15:01:26] <snowklein> it worked
[15:01:30] <snowklein> root@toledo:~# cat /etc/inet/static_routes
[15:01:30] <snowklein> # File generated by route(1M) - do not edit.
[15:01:32] <snowklein> default 192.168.1.1 -ifp vnic0
[15:01:33] <snowklein> root@toledo:~# route -p delete default 192.168.1.1
[15:01:35] <snowklein> delete net default: gateway 192.168.1.1
[15:01:36] <snowklein> delete persistent net default: gateway 192.168.1.1
[15:01:38] <snowklein> root@toledo:~# cat /etc/inet/static_routes
[15:01:39] <snowklein> # File generated by route(1M) - do not edit.
[15:01:41] <snowklein> root@toledo:~# route -p add default 192.168.1.1
[15:01:42] <z0rb> cool beans.
[15:01:42] <snowklein> add net default: gateway 192.168.1.1
[15:01:44] <snowklein> add persistent net default: gateway 192.168.1.1
[15:01:45] <snowklein> root@toledo:~# cat /etc/inet/static_routes
[15:01:46] <snowklein> # File generated by route(1M) - do not edit.
[15:01:47] <snowklein> default 192.168.1.1
[15:01:48] <snowklein> and didn't bind it to the vnic
[15:01:49] <snowklein> thanks
[15:02:14] <snowklein> again, that was an artefact from my add net in my zonecfg
[15:02:20] <snowklein> let me reboot just to make sure
[15:02:21] <snowklein> ;)
[15:02:39] <snowklein> I just flashed the firmware on a M1015
[15:02:48] <snowklein> enabling me to boot from ZFS rpools
[15:03:05] <snowklein> so now i'm getting my first real hands on experience with solaris 11
[15:03:31] <snowklein> what do you know
[15:03:32] <snowklein> it worked
[15:03:37] <snowklein> thanks z0rb
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[15:04:14] <z0rb> no problems, was new to me too. Interesting it was bound to a vnic
[15:09:31] <snowklein> again, i tried to set that up when i created the zone
[15:09:35] <snowklein> so that was my fault
[15:09:46] <snowklein> when i was doing the sysidcfg setup
[15:09:55] <snowklein> when logging in to the zone for the first time
[15:10:00] <snowklein> i selected the vnic
[15:10:18] <snowklein> but interesting that the solaris setup utility binds it like that
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[16:15:30] <jbk> hmm.. that doesn't give me confidence
[16:15:47] <jbk> s10u10 installer stalled for 14+ hours on a package, hit ctrl-c and it proceeds a bit..
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[16:26:18] <snowklein> maybe it was waiting for input?
[16:26:44] <snowklein> what does the install log say?
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[16:57:07] <Alasdairrr> the install log says "Please don't use Solaris 10"
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[16:58:43] <nachox> Alasdairrr, :)
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[17:14:52] <jbk> unfortunately, i have no choice
[17:15:13] <jbk> since oracle decided to desupport older hardware on solaris 11
[17:15:38] <jbk> i cannot upgrade our systems until all of our systems that cannot run solaris 11 have been removed from our environment
[17:17:29] <jbk> so it'll be a few more years before that happens
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[17:26:42] <jbk> and glad to see support has improved under oracle :) </sarcasm>
[17:26:56] <jbk> asking for something that does not appear to be possible
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[18:06:58] <tsoome> jbk fix your hardware:P
[18:08:27] <jbk> i'll add the magic pixie dust :)
[18:08:42] <jbk> well when the responses suggest they're not even bothering to read the description
[18:08:48] <jbk> it gets real frustrating, real fast
[18:09:02] <tsoome> support?
[18:09:43] <jbk> 'why are you asking about console LOM output when the problem is with the installer stalling (not freezing, just spinning its wheels) inside a VM, not the control domain (which remains functional)'
[18:09:47] <jbk> yeah
[18:10:17] <tsoome> aye. altho the latest SR i did file did surprise me
[18:11:11] <jbk> i think i was very clear about where it was stalling, that it was a sparc vm domain, etc.
[18:12:18] <tsoome> oh well..
[18:12:29] <jbk> it really doesn't surprise me
[18:12:31] <tsoome> and i just did look onto it and got disappointed
[18:12:39] <jbk> it appears unless your issue is incredibly trivial
[18:12:50] <jbk> that in general you will not get any resolution until you escalate several times
[18:13:06] <jbk> that's pretty much been the local consensus among a bunch of local customers
[18:13:13] <tsoome> I did paste "pkg info entire" output into the SR and they are asking what OS im running....
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[18:15:27] <tsoome> case description is "pkg image-update wont work from SRU6.6 to 7.5 with local zones installed" and he is asking "I believe you are trying to install the zones in Solars 11 system (global zone). Please confirm."
[18:16:04] <tsoome> i think i need to take additional lessons about the english.
[18:17:33] <jbk> 'make sure the ISO works'
[18:17:35] <jbk> uhh
[18:17:42] <jbk> i verified the md5 sum with the oracle website
[18:17:54] <jbk> if it is the ISO, that is a major _Oracle_ problem
[18:17:56] <jbk> and at this point
[18:18:00] <jbk> if the s10u10 iso didn't work
[18:18:07] <jbk> i suspect someone would be aware of it
[18:18:17] <jbk> it's not like it just came out yesterday or even last month..
[18:18:43] <tsoome> sparc?
[18:19:15] <jbk> yeah
[18:19:17] <tsoome> $ digest -a md5 sol-10-u10-ga2-sparc-dvd.iso
[18:19:18] <tsoome> df9bbdfddde2140ad44394f31fd37cb9
[18:19:18] <jbk> got a t4
[18:19:26] <tsoome> i just installed from it like hour ago
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[18:20:23] <jbk> yep
[18:20:49] <tsoome> ldom 2.1, primary domain is s11+latest SRU
[18:21:27] <tsoome> system is T4-1 with latest firmware
[18:21:46] <jbk> as far as i can tell, the control domain is up to date with everything
[18:21:50] <jbk> firmware is current
[18:21:51] <jbk> etc
[18:22:28] <tsoome> in fact, in s11 the ldom software is integrated and updated via SRU
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[18:22:55] <jbk> yeah, i noticed that
[18:23:08] <jbk> i added the repo for updates (after getting an ssl cert + key)
[18:23:15] <jbk> and image-update didn't indicate anything was out of date
[18:23:19] <jbk> so i'm assuming it's current
[18:23:33] <tsoome> whats your pkg info entire?
[18:24:02] <tsoome> you should see Version: 0.5.11 (Oracle Solaris 11 SRU 7.5)
[18:24:07] <jbk> oh hmm..
[18:24:08] <jbk> it's 04a
[18:26:57] <jbk> yep
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[18:27:17] <jbk> hmm of course this time it's gotten a lot further than before
[18:28:31] <jbk> only thing i did different was specify DNS info (previously, i just specified none with the intention of setting that all up later)
[18:28:56] <jbk> though not it looks like it might be stalled..
[18:28:59] <tsoome> thats sysid part, has nothing to do with pkgadd's
[18:29:09] <jbk> yeah, i know
[18:29:34] <jbk> it's during the pkgadd that it just gets so far (seemingly random amount) than just sits there w/ the spinning cursor on the progress bar
[18:29:59] <tsoome> where you see that 04a btw?
[18:30:12] <jbk> the pkg info entire
[18:30:24] <jbk> though this time, a pkg image-update -nv shows it'd touch a few things..
[18:30:39] <tsoome> s11 FCS install tells me just "Version: 0.5.11"
[18:30:45] <jbk> i did do a pkg rebuild-index earlier today
[18:31:01] <jbk> trying to install STB, it of course fails
[18:31:02] <tsoome> thats clean install from FCS image
[18:31:16] <jbk> if you instead extract it
[18:31:20] <jbk> then add the file based repo
[18:31:22] <alanc> the SRU version string was added to pkg info in the SRUs, post FCS
[18:31:30] <jbk> it works
[18:31:32] <jbk> of course
[18:31:40] <jbk> you cannot search it to find the package name
[18:31:48] <jbk> nor does the README tell you its name either
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[18:32:30] <tsoome> i think the root cause in your case is that you have not up to data ldom package and you are hitting some related bug
[18:32:36] <tsoome> date*
[18:33:05] <jbk> possibly, though it'd be nice if all this money we're giving oracle could confirm that with a bugid
[18:34:00] <tsoome> well, in my case they are asking my os version despite i have provided pkg info entire…. so its too much to expect to get any reasonable output from there;)
[18:34:31] <jbk> well gonna go grab some lunch and see if it progresses at all by the time i get back
[18:35:09] <tsoome> tbh, better try to get the pkg image-update done and then install the guest;)
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[20:25:08] <tsoome> oh well. SR is updated. maybe he can read it this time….
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[20:26:52] <tsoome> its nice bug tho. upgrade from FCS to SRU7.5 is working fine, FCS to SRU6.6 is also ok, but SRU6.6 to SRU7.5 fails when you have local zone installed:)
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[21:08:15] <jbk> hmm..
[21:08:19] <jbk> after updating to sru7.5
[21:08:25] <jbk> i managed to get one of the ldoms going
[21:08:32] <jbk> the other one though is having the same issue...
[21:08:44] <jbk> i might just get the working one all configured + clone the zvol
[21:08:48] <jbk> and use it for the other one
[21:08:54] <jbk> if that works :)
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[21:12:13] <tsoome> zvol storage or file?
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[21:24:49] <jbk> zvol
[21:27:59] <tsoome> how much ram your control domain has?
[21:39:37] <tsoome> or, for more correctly, how much arc it got;)
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[21:46:43] <jbk> 4gb
[21:46:49] <jbk> figured that'd be decent
[21:47:27] <jbk> right now i'm updating the firmware (apparently there's a new version) and gonna upgrade ldoms to 2.2 (which just came out today)
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[21:52:36] <tsoome> i have 4 as well.
[21:52:53] <tsoome> 2.2 is out?
[21:56:14] <jbk> apparently
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[22:24:17] <tsoome> well, s11 one is not in repo yet.
[22:24:24] <tsoome> altho the docs are there
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[22:57:31] <jbk> yeah, i noticed that
[23:01:13] <jbk> i think what i might do regardless is get one vm setup, with all the addtitional stuff installed, and snap+clone for the other just to save time
[23:01:31] <tsoome> cloning is reasonable anyhow
[23:02:36] <tsoome> my s10 install was very painess tho - once i actually did read the docs and did drop that slice statement from vdisk:D
[23:03:12] <jbk> i went ahead and bumped up the control domain's memory a bit as well
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[23:27:39] <tsoome> well, just did really stupid write test, something like iso write against 1+1 mirror and ~30MB/s - pretty ok
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