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Is there a single command to install gcc/cc and all the related tools need to compile C software?[05:32:10] <alanc> pkg install gcc-dev[05:32:51] <macros73> I don't always herp, but when I herp, I derp. 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The solaris.zlib (and solarismisc.zlib) get lofi mounted.[10:21:04] <CodeWar> not sure I have the latest firmware though let me check ..[10:21:22] <seanmcg> since you can get to the point of the wget its not a firmware issue[10:21:39] <tsoome> yea, once the kernel is up, it shouldnt be fw[10:22:02] <tsoome> well, it certainly does not hurt to make sure you have latest anyhow[10:22:29] *** GdeLeo has joined #opensolaris[10:23:01] <CodeWar> is there a way to ask AI to start from within miniroot?[10:23:06] <CodeWar> did scvadm enable auto-installer:default :) that didnt help[10:23:23] <seanmcg> its the net-assembly service failing (which gets and mounts the .zlib files). clear that[10:23:26] <seanmcg> svcs -x[10:23:40] <seanmcg> CodeWar, it hasn't got as far as starting the AI service[10:24:40] <CodeWar> ok let me restart .. and try clearing net assembly ...[10:24:56] <CodeWar> /usr/bin/hostname not found it keeps complaining[10:27:42] <CodeWar> to be honest I cheated with dhcp .. did the following (Solaris 10 SPARC document)[10:27:43] <CodeWar> ok setenv network-boot-arguments host-ip=192.168.1.6,router-ip=192.168.1.1,subnet-mask=255.255.255.0,hostname=sparc1,file=http://192.168.1.20:5555/cgi-bin/wanboot-cgi[10:28:02] <CodeWar> boot net - install instead of boot net:dhcp - install[10:29:10] *** HyperJohnGraham has joined #opensolaris[10:29:24] <seanmcg> ah,[10:29:28] <seanmcg> so you've no dhcp ?[10:29:30] <CodeWar> reason I did that was because with dhcp it was hanging here[10:29:38] <CodeWar> Requesting Ethernet address for: 192.168.1.254 (15mins)([10:29:52] <seanmcg> your dhcp server ok ?[10:30:10] <CodeWar> I have dhcp .. meaning alom net gets its address from dhcp .. another laptop gets it too[10:30:26] <tsoome> 192.168.1.254 is dhcp server ip?[10:30:27] <CodeWar> installadm created the dhcp with -i option and it seems to work fine everywhere except for this[10:30:43] <CodeWar> nope 192.168.1.1 is router ip dhcp range is 1.20 + 10[10:30:58] <tsoome> so where that .254 comes?[10:31:15] <CodeWar> thats hwat I m trying to figure out :) googling says its got something to do with RARP whatevfer that is[10:31:28] <tsoome> no[10:31:49] <tsoome> requesting ethernet address is arp[10:32:21] <seanmcg> what's the systems' current IP address ?[10:32:26] <tsoome> meaning, your client got some resource hinting it should contact with 192.168.1.254, but there is no ethernet address to send package for...[10:33:00] <CodeWar> 192.168.1.22 when i goto miniroot and do ifconfig bge0 dhcp[10:33:33] <tsoome> you have solaris dhcp server?[10:33:33] <CodeWar> but the way I reach miniroot is using the setenv + net instlal command from above not dhcp ..[10:33:37] <CodeWar> tsoome, yes[10:33:54] <CodeWar> the one provided by installadm -i[10:33:59] <tsoome> dhtadm -P will print the options, check if that .254 is mentioned there[10:34:15] <seanmcg> and pntadm -P 192.168.1.0[10:37:32] <tsoome> you can also monitor with 'snoop -v udp port bootps or udp port bootpc'[10:38:57] *** CodeWar has quit IRC[10:39:10] *** CodeWar has joined #opensolaris[10:43:00] <CodeWar> good call yes dhtadm shows .254 in the output ... hang on trying to decipher the columns[10:43:12] <tsoome> paste it:P[10:49:22] <CodeWar> pastebin.com/DvepddZS[10:53:45] <CodeWar> guess I should redefine the 192.168.1.0 macro not sure why it picked Router=192.168.1.254[10:56:19] <tsoome> aye:D either it did ask it from you, or did pick it from defaultrouter[10:57:23] *** joshua__ has joined #opensolaris[10:57:47] <CodeWar> thats /etc/defaultrouter right? dont seem to havfe that file[10:58:13] <tsoome> well, doesnt matter no, you just have to fix it:D[10:58:30] *** joshua__ is now known as joshua_[10:58:37] <tsoome> dhtadm -M -m ...... :D[11:11:03] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[11:17:36] *** hajma has quit IRC[11:20:31] <CodeWar> ok that worked but required a reboot of the dhcp server thanks tsoome[11:20:38] <CodeWar> and seanmcg :)[11:20:42] <tsoome> ?![11:21:03] <CodeWar> boot net:dhcp - install now proceeds to wanboot progress ... downloading .. it wasnt reaching this far[11:21:09] <tsoome> dhcptab change does not require reboot, -HUP is enough:P[11:21:19] *** ewdafa has joined #opensolaris[11:21:24] <CodeWar> ahh well I m desperate so pull the plug every now and then[11:21:28] <tsoome> :D[11:22:55] <CodeWar> omg!!!! its downloading solaris.zlib ...... and a bunch of other stuff ..[11:23:00] <CodeWar> man am I happy!! :)[11:23:31] * CodeWar does a crazy chicken dance[11:29:37] * seanmcg waits for the AI service to fail now :)[11:30:08] <seanmcg> CodeWar, your IPS server all setup ?[11:30:36] <CodeWar> seanmcg, darn you knew it[11:30:54] <CodeWar> yes iit seems www.oracle.com doesnt work but i can ping it by ip address[11:31:45] <CodeWar> modified nsswitch.dns and restarted dns/client but doesnt allow me to modify /etc/netmasks .. whats the next step here[11:31:48] <seanmcg> why you going to www.oracle.com instead of pkg.oracle.com (assuming you're going that way)[11:32:09] <CodeWar> seanmcg, yes thats what failed[11:33:04] <seanmcg> you've no DNSserv setup in you dhcp tables[11:34:00] <seanmcg> modifying nsswitch.dns won't do anything btw, unless you copy it to nsswitch.conf - which should already be correct - since nwam would have set it up[11:34:31] <CodeWar> yep thats what I did ... dnnserv in my dhcp table ... from the dhcp server machine I can ping www.oracle.com does that mean anything?[11:35:09] <seanmcg> not seeing DNSserv in that pastebin you did earlier[11:35:27] <seanmcg> the dhcp server itself doesn't have to use DNS if it doesn't want to :}[11:35:56] <CodeWar> ok how do I setup DNServ .. is that a macro that should point to some address?[11:37:56] <seanmcg> change your solaris macro to include: DNSdmain="$your_domain":DNSserv=$your_dns_server[11:38:18] <seanmcg> can check that on the client via /sbin/dhcpinfo -i $nic DNSserv[11:38:52] <CodeWar> by $your_domain we mean type that ditto and not replace with my domain name right?[11:39:03] *** calumb has joined #opensolaris[11:39:21] <CodeWar> :-) sorry dumb one man[11:39:55] <seanmcg> replace with your domain name[11:40:19] <CodeWar> err domain name :) I only have a host name that ll do?[11:41:06] <seanmcg> if you can ping www.oracle.com, then you have a domain name, its not strictly needed for AI - so can possibly leave it out[11:42:16] <CodeWar> when I ping -s I see 64 bytes from xyz-.....akamaitechnologies.com is that the domain name?[11:42:47] <CodeWar> might as well ask .. how do I get the dns server is taht whats in /etc/resolv.conf[11:43:09] <seanmcg> looks like it and yes to the two questions[11:43:53] <CodeWar> thanks[11:44:46] <seanmcg> you contracting for akamaitechnologies.com ?[11:45:02] <CodeWar> hehe nope this is a home address comcast[11:45:24] <seanmcg> so how are you getting akamaitech...,com ?[11:45:31] <CodeWar> no idea[11:45:47] *** mmu_man has joined #opensolaris[11:46:29] <CodeWar> seems to be the same no matter which site I ping[11:47:59] *** stevel has quit IRC[11:50:24] <CodeWar> seanmcg, the /sbin/dhcpinfo -i bge0 DNSserv should it have given me some output?[11:51:41] <seanmcg> if your dhcp server has the info then yes, nothing if not[11:52:46] <CodeWar> ping returbs getaddrubfo: temporary name resolution failure unknown host google.com ip based lookups work though[11:52:51] <CodeWar> *returns[11:54:28] <CodeWar> ahhh it worked[11:54:36] <CodeWar> added /etc/resolv.conf on the sparc box[11:54:52] <CodeWar> and restarted dns/client[11:55:25] <CodeWar> will this restart the stalled AI process? svcadm enable auto-installer:default?[11:56:17] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[11:57:33] *** mmu_man has joined #opensolaris[11:57:33] *** mmu_man_ has joined #opensolaris[11:57:47] *** mmu_man_ has quit IRC[11:58:11] *** mmu_man has joined #opensolaris[11:58:13] <seanmcg> disable/enable for sure[11:58:33] <CodeWar> did a restart didnt seem to make any difference /tmp/install_log shows no change[11:59:47] <CodeWar> well disable enable did the trick :) not sure why restart didnt help[12:01:03] *** jelmd_ has joined #opensolaris[12:01:04] *** jelmd has quit IRC[12:01:04] *** jelmd_ is now known as jelmd[12:02:06] *** niq has joined #opensolaris[12:02:06] *** niq has joined #opensolaris[12:02:50] <tsoome> just add dns domain and server to dhcptab;)[12:02:52] <tsoome> :P[12:05:05] *** nonnooo has joined #opensolaris[12:07:02] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[12:07:54] *** mmu_man has joined #opensolaris[12:08:33] <CodeWar> tsoome, what did you say was needed to restart dhcp after dhtadm -M changes[12:09:17] *** nonnooo has quit IRC[12:09:18] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[12:11:55] *** nonnooo has joined #opensolaris[12:16:29] *** nonnooo has quit IRC[12:20:06] *** nonnooo has joined #opensolaris[12:23:28] *** CodeWar has quit IRC[12:24:43] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[12:24:57] *** edude03 has joined #opensolaris[12:25:16] *** derchris has quit IRC[12:25:36] *** derchris has joined #opensolaris[12:26:40] *** nonnooo has quit IRC[12:27:50] *** smaresca has quit IRC[12:29:11] *** nonnooo has joined #opensolaris[12:30:07] <tsoome> hup to dhcpd[12:30:31] <tsoome> pkill -1 in.dhcpd[12:32:40] *** Stellar has quit IRC[12:33:23] <tsoome> the /usr/sadm/admin/bin/dhcpmgr does offer it for you btw.[12:35:34] *** nonnooo has quit IRC[12:36:01] *** Mech0z has joined #opensolaris[12:36:16] *** edude03 has quit IRC[12:40:27] *** smaresca has joined #opensolaris[12:40:49] *** dijenerate has joined #opensolaris[13:06:56] <CIA-49> SFE kohju: 1st add[13:10:33] *** jelmd has quit IRC[13:10:39] *** jelmd has joined #opensolaris[13:12:17] *** Stellar has joined #opensolaris[13:35:42] *** hsp has quit IRC[13:38:10] *** Z` has joined #opensolaris[13:38:47] *** hajma has joined #opensolaris[13:38:49] *** hsp has joined #opensolaris[13:46:54] *** hsp has quit IRC[13:54:03] *** hsp has joined #opensolaris[14:09:14] *** nonnooo has joined #opensolaris[14:10:02] *** Stellar has quit IRC[14:13:54] *** nonnooo has quit IRC[14:14:33] *** eXeC001er has joined #opensolaris[14:20:01] *** nonnooo has joined #opensolaris[14:21:42] *** sancho has quit IRC[14:21:46] <eXeC001er> Hi[14:21:47] <eXeC001er> Anybody knows how to get COMSTAR Administration Guide ? I have accocunt and can login to wiki.sun.com, but cannot get COMSTAR Guide.[14:27:16] *** Statts has joined #opensolaris[14:29:06] *** held has quit IRC[14:30:59] <tsoome> You cannot view this page due to inherited restrictions[14:32:23] <tsoome> but check http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E19963-01/html/821-1459/fmvcd.html[14:40:22] *** ganbold has quit IRC[14:42:23] *** Norrin has joined #opensolaris[14:44:23] <CosmicDJ> hm... ps -cf on solaris 10 shows many procs using the FSS scheduler, is that the default scheduler nowadays?[14:44:37] <tsoome> no[14:45:38] <CosmicDJ> maybe on opensolaris?[14:45:39] <tomww> still TS is the default scheduler[14:45:57] <tomww> the step guides tell how to change to FSS even without rebooting[14:46:04] <tsoome> dispadm -d will show the default scheduler[14:46:34] <CosmicDJ> shows "FSS (Fair Share)"[14:46:59] <tomww> this is active after a reboot or if you change all running processes to it.[14:47:16] <CosmicDJ> hm ok, guess I'll have to ask why FSS is default here[14:47:36] <tomww> think of "init" in TS *or* FSS, so all spawned processes will inherit that scheduling class from init/svc startd[14:47:54] <tomww> FSS because it's more "fair" ?[14:48:25] <tomww> makes sense for a big or a small system with cocurrent workloads. I used this for my sunray server (5 users)[14:48:30] *** held has joined #opensolaris[14:48:45] <tomww> and with projects I assign shares to processes owned by the users[14:50:10] *** dajhorn has quit IRC[14:50:42] <CosmicDJ> ok, thanks :)[14:56:13] *** jelmd_ has joined #opensolaris[14:56:14] *** jelmd has quit IRC[14:56:20] *** jelmd_ is now known as jelmd[14:56:48] *** eXeC001er has quit IRC[14:57:22] *** eXeC001er has joined #opensolaris[15:11:23] *** PhoenixMage has joined #opensolaris[15:15:45] *** calumb is now known as calLNCH[15:16:31] *** sancho has joined #opensolaris[15:30:45] *** mroconnor has joined #opensolaris[15:31:08] *** mroconnor has quit IRC[15:33:08] *** dajhorn has joined #opensolaris[15:34:28] *** dubf has quit IRC[15:35:03] *** mroconnor has joined #opensolaris[15:35:38] *** mroconnor has joined #opensolaris[15:35:38] *** mroconnor has joined #opensolaris[15:36:05] *** dajhorn_ has joined #opensolaris[15:36:07] *** dajhorn has quit IRC[15:36:23] *** mroconnor has quit IRC[15:49:59] <PhoenixMage> Does anyone know where I can get some support for Eon?[15:51:39] <RoyK> eon?[15:51:58] <PhoenixMage> NAS based on open solaris[15:52:05] <PhoenixMage> http://sites.google.com/site/eonstorage/[15:52:22] <RoyK> probably from Eon[15:52:27] <RoyK> support, that is[15:52:31] <Meths> Think their website lists an IRC channel[15:52:44] <tsoome> an #opensolaris ?:)[15:53:19] <PhoenixMage> couldnt find an irc chan[15:54:06] <RoyK> eon seems rather outdated to me[15:54:07] <tsoome> maybe you wanna ask question first, if its really solaris related, we may be able to help. if not ...[15:54:11] <RoyK> snv130 isn't very new[15:54:14] *** myrkraverk has joined #opensolaris[15:54:14] *** myrkraverk has joined #opensolaris[15:55:16] <PhoenixMage> thanks tsoome[15:55:23] <PhoenixMage> I will grab what I have an give in a sec[15:56:42] <PhoenixMage> But in a nutshell I am trying to get it installed on a HP DL380 G4 and after displaying the[15:57:09] <PhoenixMage> SunOS bit and the licensing it freezes spitting something about memory[15:57:34] <PhoenixMage> I have a linux background which doesnt really help when it hasnt seem to go pass the kernel[15:57:37] <RoyK> PhoenixMage: if you don't have a problem with the general commandline, testing OpenIndiana may be a good idea[15:57:52] <PhoenixMage> OpenIndiana?[15:58:42] <PhoenixMage> Is that the latest open solaris?[15:59:20] <Triskelios> that is the community replacement for the OpenSolaris distro[15:59:47] <Triskelios> Oracle's replacement is Solaris 11 Express, which is available for free but has restrictions on use[16:00:11] <PhoenixMage> where might I find it? I like the idea of Eon because its small and will run from a usb thumb drive[16:00:18] <Triskelios> if you're looking for a storage system only I would suggest NexentaStor instead[16:00:34] <Triskelios> OpenIndiana is openindiana.org[16:00:56] *** postwait has joined #opensolaris[16:01:33] <PhoenixMage> Triskelios: does it have zfs deduplification?[16:01:37] <tsoome> you are not the only one in trouble: http://www.mail-archive.com/opensolaris-help at mail dot opensolaris.org/msg03238.html[16:02:02] <tsoome> PhoenixMage: what kind of data you have?[16:02:03] <Triskelios> PhoenixMage: yes, but dedup has performance implications (and problems for delete)[16:02:15] *** kimc has joined #opensolaris[16:03:02] <tsoome> if you intend to use this NAS for generic file server, forget about deduplication, its not for this kind of data.[16:04:19] <PhoenixMage> tsoome: Its more as a basis for my VMs[16:04:38] <PhoenixMage> I will probably store media on their as well[16:05:17] <PhoenixMage> ie, my own personal blu-rays and dvds (I hate changing discs)[16:05:20] <RoyK> PhoenixMage: deduplication is for special needs only - it requires a LOT of RAM/L2ARC and even with that in place, rather sucks at write speeds[16:05:51] *** jelmd_ has joined #opensolaris[16:05:51] *** jelmd has quit IRC[16:05:54] <PhoenixMage> RoyK: it will be running on a dual CPU Xeon with 4Gb of RAM and thats all it will be doing[16:05:58] *** jelmd_ is now known as jelmd[16:06:11] <RoyK> PhoenixMage: then don't even consider dedup an option[16:06:31] <PhoenixMage> It takes more resources then that?[16:06:34] <tsoome> how much disk space you have planned?[16:06:45] *** Mech0z has quit IRC[16:06:45] <RoyK> they say 2-3GB per 1TB unique data[16:07:16] <RoyK> and there are still issues with removing a deduped dataset can take days, hanging the system while doing so[16:07:25] <RoyK> really, don't use it[16:07:36] <RoyK> if you have a dedicated test system, try there first[16:07:55] <RoyK> or just listen to those of us who have tried already :P[16:07:57] <PhoenixMage> At this stage it is 2.5 Tb but plan to expand out but that is more for media storage and probably wont run dedup on that part[16:08:04] *** calLNCH is now known as calumb[16:08:11] <PhoenixMage> as I cant imagine there will be alot gained from using on it on video[16:08:26] <RoyK> PhoenixMage: then don't use dedup. and if you do, don't complain when (not if) you run into problems[16:08:35] <PhoenixMage> RoyK this is my own system purely for experimenting[16:08:47] <PhoenixMage> ok, I hear ya[16:08:53] <RoyK> if you can afford to lose the pool, then just go on :)[16:09:05] <PhoenixMage> And since no one is refuting you I will take it as consensus[16:10:05] * RoyK has a dedicated test system with 8GB RAM, 4GB SLOG and 150GB L2ARC and even that gets sirupy after only 1-2TB deduped data[16:10:34] <PhoenixMage> The actual error I get is "WARNING: failed to program mem space [10/1/0] BAR@0x1c length 0x10000000"[16:10:53] <PhoenixMage> tsoome: Thanks for that link, seems to be similar to my prob and no res[16:11:32] <PhoenixMage> FreeNAS supports up to zfs v15 I think, any real benefit going past that?[16:11:44] <tsoome> if you have 4GB of ram, the zfs cache (arc) will use max 3GB, the dedupe table is living inside the metadata part of arc, and default metadata size limit in your case is 3GB / 4. not too much....[16:12:26] <RoyK> PhoenixMage: I'd use OpenIndiana for such a setup (and I'm using OI at work for far larger setups than that)[16:13:15] *** Spencer_tt has quit IRC[16:13:41] <PhoenixMage> RoyK happy to give it a go but how much space do I need as I would prefer to run it off a usb drive[16:13:57] <RoyK> iirc 2GB should suffice[16:14:08] <RoyK> just use the text installer - the normal one will install X etc[16:14:11] <RoyK> no need for that[16:14:18] <PhoenixMage> Straight forward to install on a usb?[16:14:39] *** kvadratmeter has quit IRC[16:14:40] <RoyK> never done it myself, but I don't see why not - it's just a storage device[16:14:41] <PhoenixMage> Yeah I want bare bones, most of my linux stuff is built lean using LFS[16:15:08] <PhoenixMage> RoyK: sshh dont tell MS, they still wotn let you partition a usb thumb drive[16:15:24] <RoyK> PhoenixMage: lol[16:15:47] * RoyK doesn't like systems that tries to outsmart the admin[16:16:07] <PhoenixMage> My focus is more on security so smaller footprint is my preference[16:17:31] <PhoenixMage> RoyK: Sadly its not that hard to outsmart the admin these days[16:19:01] <PhoenixMage> man, the oi servers dont have much of a pipe, must be about 10Mb[16:19:23] <PhoenixMage> there is a usb live image but I imagine that will have X[16:20:14] *** solar_ has joined #opensolaris[16:23:31] <PhoenixMage> damn, french mirror is nice, pulling at 7MBytes/s[16:24:30] *** hajma has quit IRC[16:33:02] *** jthunder_ has joined #opensolaris[16:33:02] *** Cyrus has quit IRC[16:33:07] *** Cyrus has joined #opensolaris[16:33:33] *** Cyrus is now known as Guest12175[16:34:06] *** tsoome has quit IRC[16:37:02] *** jthunder has quit IRC[16:37:02] *** jthunder_ is now known as jthunder[16:39:38] <PhoenixMage> Seems I crash and burn the same way with OI[16:39:52] <PhoenixMage> Except instead of locking it dumps and reboots[16:41:23] *** jthunder has quit IRC[16:43:57] <PhoenixMage> Strange its in the community hcl as working[16:44:13] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[16:45:11] *** solar_ has quit IRC[16:45:43] <Triskelios> PhoenixMage: boot with -d, screenshot (or copy if you have a serial console) the crash?[16:46:56] <PhoenixMage> rgr[16:47:24] *** Toiletbowl has joined #opensolaris[16:48:19] <PhoenixMage> Triskelios: is that on the kernel line?[16:48:53] *** smrt has quit IRC[16:49:01] <Triskelios> yup, just add it to the end... actually -dv would be nice[16:49:08] *** smrt has joined #opensolaris[16:49:17] <PhoenixMage> already booting with -d :)[16:49:35] <PhoenixMage> Last chance tonight as its nearly 2am and I am up at 6[16:52:24] *** sancho has quit IRC[16:55:19] <PhoenixMage> http://pastebin.com/MqBMH0K7[16:56:01] <PhoenixMage> It dumps after that an I cant capture it as I dont ahve console access[16:56:55] *** dijenerate has joined #opensolaris[17:05:25] *** m2acis has quit IRC[17:06:36] *** smrt has quit IRC[17:06:51] *** smrt has joined #opensolaris[17:08:34] *** jthunder has joined #opensolaris[17:09:34] *** g1 has joined #opensolaris[17:11:28] *** odyi has joined #opensolaris[17:11:28] *** odyi has joined #opensolaris[17:17:49] *** g1 has quit IRC[17:19:52] *** kimc has quit IRC[17:19:56] *** tsoome has joined #opensolaris[17:22:30] *** PhoenixMage1 has joined #opensolaris[17:23:30] *** PhoenixMage has quit IRC[17:24:26] *** jt___ has joined #opensolaris[17:28:05] *** fOB has joined #opensolaris[17:29:24] *** sahX has joined #opensolaris[17:29:33] *** ingenthr has joined #opensolaris[17:35:30] *** sahX has quit IRC[17:37:28] *** Statts has quit IRC[17:38:58] *** PhoenixMage1 is now known as PhoenixMage[17:45:19] *** Posterdati has quit IRC[17:47:26] *** jelmd_ has joined #opensolaris[17:47:26] *** jelmd has quit IRC[17:47:33] *** jelmd_ is now known as jelmd[17:49:38] *** Posterdati has joined #opensolaris[17:52:12] *** GdeLeo has left #opensolaris[18:03:03] *** jthunder has quit IRC[18:05:12] *** Dagobert has quit IRC[18:08:44] <CIA-49> SFE kohju: - 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