March 28, 2011 
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March 28, 2011 [00:00:38] <tsoome> im using little black box for hdmi. nice streaming over wifi and no worries:P[00:04:51] <hjf> i'm just using the component video out[00:05:04] <hjf> and stereo sound from speaker output[00:05:09] <hjf> my tv is only 720p[00:05:12] <monsted> appletv ftw ;)[00:05:18] <tsoome> well, my goal was to get rid of cables;)[00:05:34] <tsoome> monsted: the little black box:P[00:05:44] <hjf> i got an xbox 360, i wish it could read MKV files[00:05:47] <tsoome> even, tiny[00:05:47] <monsted> tsoome: the hockey puck![00:06:15] <monsted> i got two of them on friday, jailbroke them and put plex on them[00:06:44] <tsoome> xbox should so as well for such purpose[00:08:11] <tsoome> after owning jailbreaked phone for several years, i gave up with jailbreaking, its not for me:D[00:08:16] *** noyb_ has joined #opensolaris[00:08:26] <tsoome> all that shit with fw updates etc...[00:08:36] <monsted> i got the appletvs just to run plex, don't really expect to ever update them :)[00:13:37] <tsoome> it does look pretty decent:)[00:13:45] *** noyb_ has quit IRC[00:14:47] *** noyb has joined #opensolaris[00:19:05] <monsted> as long as i can update plex, i don't really care about the box it runs on[00:19:28] <monsted> but i can see how it would be an issue with something like a phone where you probably want the newest software[00:19:34] <tsoome> yep.[00:24:22] *** derchris has quit IRC[00:24:40] *** derchris has joined #opensolaris[00:25:01] <hjf> yeah, down here we have something ... pretty cool,[00:25:08] <hjf> the AZ america decoder[00:25:26] <tsoome> ?[00:25:31] <hjf> can get free-to-air channels from a dish,[00:25:41] <hjf> work as a DVR if you have a local HDD[00:25:52] <hjf> and also stream from ethernet from a network share[00:25:59] <hjf> it plays HD MKVs with subtitles[00:26:01] *** zynox_ has quit IRC[00:26:28] <hjf> sweet little box[00:26:39] <tsoome> http://www.elgato.com/ is pretty nice one as well[00:26:48] *** zynox has joined #opensolaris[00:27:02] <hjf> well the azamerica is hacked...[00:27:08] <hjf> and you can get NOT free to air channels as well[00:27:16] <tsoome> :D[00:27:44] <hjf> lol in the forums they say "does anyone know where i can get the WATER for my FLOWERS?"[00:28:01] <hjf> the water being the keys, the flowers being the paid channels[00:28:09] <tsoome> also, major providers are almost ready (and some already do) provide things over ip[00:28:42] <hjf> in spain they're really crazy, some folks have 4-dish setups to get feeds from 4 different satellites[00:28:57] *** InTheWings has quit IRC[00:29:02] <tsoome> heh[00:30:38] <hjf> i need to get one of those hdtv decoders the government is giving away[00:30:59] <hjf> i like to watch Encuentro, it's the government's educational channel. half the programming is BBC documentaries[00:31:35] <tsoome> oh. thats nice[00:31:57] *** CodeWar has joined #opensolaris[00:32:00] <hjf> all right! my NAS is done[00:32:05] <tsoome> 99% of channels here are just crap. would really drop that shit if it was possible[00:32:41] <CodeWar> after configuring my n/w iface to use static ipaddress I can ping any machine on my subnet and on the internet I want but dns lookups dont seem to work[00:32:59] <tsoome> you have resolv.conf?[00:33:01] <CodeWar> so ping 96.17.x.y for oracle.com works but ping www.oracle.com doesnt ... any idea what file/commands control that[00:33:05] <tsoome> and nsswich.conf?[00:33:06] <hjf> monsted: thanks for the tip, it worked like a charm[00:33:43] <CodeWar> resolv.conf and nsswitch.conf .. ok these files need modifying is it ... thanks let me look them up[00:34:17] <tsoome> once you have done and can resolve with host or nslookup, pkill nscd[00:34:49] <tsoome> nscd wont pick dns setup up without restart[00:35:17] <tsoome> daemon reastart, i mean.[00:37:10] <CodeWar> resolv.conf has the router address address guess thats ok but what exactly are we looking for in nsswitch.conf[00:37:44] <tsoome> ipnodes and hosts[00:37:58] *** Stellar has quit IRC[00:38:05] <tsoome> add dns on those lines[00:38:54] <tsoome> there may even be nsswitch.dns template ;)[00:38:56] <CodeWar> I see which is why the bklogs are talking of copying nsswitch.dns to .conf[00:39:01] <CodeWar> yes there is[00:39:48] <tsoome> which is ok if you are using only files + dns, but is not really ok if you have ldap;)[00:40:08] <CodeWar> well I m not that advanced yet trying this[00:40:44] <CodeWar> you rock!! it worked[00:40:53] <CodeWar> ~tsoome++[00:41:31] *** Stellar has joined #opensolaris[00:41:37] <CodeWar> svcadm restart dns/client btw did the trick instead of a full restart[00:42:02] <tsoome> that too, yep[00:42:32] *** Stellar has quit IRC[00:42:37] *** nikolam has joined #opensolaris[00:43:12] *** Stellar has joined #opensolaris[00:48:40] <CodeWar> all the default installations come with VI and not emacs.. I wish they d not take sides in flame wars like this[00:48:48] <CodeWar> none or both[00:49:13] *** ewdafa has quit IRC[00:55:23] *** CodeWar has quit IRC[00:59:54] *** solar_ has quit IRC[01:05:23] *** fisted_ has joined #opensolaris[01:06:29] *** fisted has quit IRC[01:06:57] *** hunter_ has quit IRC[01:09:55] *** noyb has quit IRC[01:20:46] *** smrt has quit IRC[01:27:17] *** hunter_ has joined #opensolaris[01:36:02] *** smrt has joined #opensolaris[01:41:17] *** dijenerate has joined #opensolaris[01:45:55] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[01:52:51] *** alech has quit IRC[01:54:26] <hjf> ok... what performance should I expect from ZFS v28 on FreeBSD?[01:54:30] *** alech has joined #opensolaris[01:54:47] <hjf> i'm getting 88MB/s[01:55:24] <hjf> it's an Intel Atom 230, 2GB ram, 2 ports onboard (D945GCLF) 2 ports PCI (promise sata TX2)[01:57:16] <hjf> hmmm... top shows it's 75% idle[01:57:36] <hjf> while dd'ing an 8GB file to /dev/null[01:58:11] *** wdp has quit IRC[01:58:44] <nikolam> hjf, it would be interesting for me and I suppose others if you could do testing of your use case on both FreeBSD and OpenIndiana (Or OpenIndiana+Illumos) etc.[01:58:54] <nikolam> I think there are some testing results on phoronix.com but I suppose your findongs could be interesting, eather on your blog or something or on mailing list for openindiana and/or illumos.[01:59:13] *** sahafeez has joined #opensolaris[01:59:21] *** dijenerate has joined #opensolaris[02:02:06] *** bobbyz_ has quit IRC[02:10:36] *** echelog has joined #opensolaris[02:10:46] <nikolam> Maybe Illumos is best address for new hardware support issues on all OpenSolaris based distributions[02:10:49] <hjf> i'd be happy to contribute with testing and benchmarks. is there a reporting format or something?[02:18:42] <nikolam> there is illumos bug list. You can report it there.[02:19:16] <nikolam> hjf, after that, there are mailing lists to dev/discuss[02:19:56] *** Stellar has joined #opensolaris[02:20:17] <nikolam> hjf, I dont know about some kind of formal way to post testing, benchmarks, I suppose, your free-style blog post will do just fine, Just like something on phoronix.com, I suppose ;)[02:21:06] <nikolam> I was thinking of hardware support request/proposition under that bug for Illumos[02:30:48] *** CodeWar has joined #opensolaris[02:31:50] <CodeWar> AI on SPARC .. seem to have come a long way AI server static ip setup .. dhcp server setup ALOM is able to use dhcp and get an ip __but__[02:32:17] <CodeWar> OK boot net:dhcp - install says end point not found ... is there a way to run smaller diagnostics and see what the problem might be[02:40:28] *** greendatacentre has quit IRC[02:43:36] *** darrenb` has joined #opensolaris[02:43:38] *** greendatacentre has joined #opensolaris[02:44:30] *** darrenb has quit IRC[02:48:23] *** greendatacentre has quit IRC[02:56:24] *** sahafeez has quit IRC[02:57:19] *** sahafeez has joined #opensolaris[02:58:32] *** sahafeez has quit IRC[03:12:34] *** moved has joined #opensolaris[03:23:47] *** edude03 has joined #opensolaris[03:23:48] *** Cobi has quit IRC[03:24:53] *** Cobi has joined #opensolaris[03:26:49] <CodeWar> i ve got installadm create-service setup that also sets up the dhcp server.... where do these logs go[03:53:14] *** hjf has quit IRC[04:04:39] *** CodeWar has quit IRC[04:16:35] *** nikolam has quit IRC[04:20:48] *** bobbyz_ has joined #opensolaris[04:20:55] *** dimonov has quit IRC[04:25:45] * Hedonista stares at alanc 's picture of the european ipod charger[04:26:17] *** killa_11 has joined #opensolaris[04:26:42] *** edude03 has quit IRC[04:41:18] *** kdavy has quit IRC[04:43:03] *** killa_11 has quit IRC[04:45:05] *** miine_ has joined #opensolaris[04:47:02] *** miine has quit IRC[04:47:02] *** miine_ is now known as miine[04:47:10] *** killa_11 has joined #opensolaris[04:49:10] *** killa_11 has quit IRC[04:50:14] *** djhyland has joined #opensolaris[04:57:27] *** djhyland has quit IRC[05:00:35] <jelmd> lol[05:07:11] <deet> so where do i start reading up on opensolaris as a directory server[05:07:39] <deet> i know windows active directory… mac os OpenDirectory LDAP[05:08:02] <deet> for solaris i'm getting some stuff about OpenDS and NIS … what's what?[05:08:28] <jelmd> http://www.forgerock.com/opendj.html etc.[05:10:14] <jelmd> http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E19963-01/html/821-1455/index.html[05:10:57] <deet> Aha[05:12:52] <jelmd> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/documentation/legacy-sun-identity-mgmt-193462.html[05:14:10] <deet> Hmm legacy? is that just oracle babble or is this stuff being superseded?[05:16:31] *** stevel has joined #opensolaris[05:16:31] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stevel[05:19:27] *** FrankLv has joined #opensolaris[05:22:16] <richlowe> deet: the server stuff, replaced with Oracle's[05:22:19] *** noyb has joined #opensolaris[05:23:20] *** hunter_ has quit IRC[05:23:53] <deet> ah[05:25:16] <jelmd> deet: most of the legacy docs are valueable for Open{DJ|AM|IDM} as well, since they are based on the legacy stuff ...[05:25:54] <deet> yeah, it's worth starting at the beginning[05:26:24] *** stevel has quit IRC[05:27:14] <jelmd> at least it usually does not hurt to have a look at it ;-)[05:32:45] *** Cobi has quit IRC[05:32:51] *** noyb has quit IRC[05:36:33] *** Cobi has joined #opensolaris[05:37:26] *** kdavy has joined #opensolaris[05:53:32] *** Guest18890 is now known as laen_[06:25:08] *** Matson has joined #opensolaris[06:25:17] <Matson> how can I fidn the cwd of a running process?[06:26:16] <richlowe> pwdx[06:26:52] *** javashin has joined #opensolaris[06:26:52] *** javashin has joined #opensolaris[06:28:33] <timsf> or, 'pwd' if it's a shell and you're running in it, or 'pargs -e <pid> | grep PWD' if you didn't know about pwdx, or you could just guess, and risk being wrong.[06:31:58] *** Crypticfortune has joined #opensolaris[06:40:50] *** noyb has joined #opensolaris[06:44:31] <richlowe> timsf: I remember pwdx simply because I loathe it not being named ppwd[06:44:37] *** stevel has joined #opensolaris[06:44:37] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stevel[06:54:40] *** FrankLv has quit IRC[07:11:32] *** Statts has joined #opensolaris[07:23:54] *** _Tenchi_ has quit IRC[07:30:50] *** timsf has quit IRC[07:33:30] *** ABHISHEK has joined #opensolaris[07:33:35] <ABHISHEK> HII[07:34:11] <ABHISHEK> i need small help about opengrock[07:34:26] <ABHISHEK> is it right place for me..[07:46:25] <jelmd> ?[07:46:28] *** ABHISHEK has quit IRC[07:46:30] *** Killsudo has quit IRC[07:48:01] <jelmd> oh - already gone :)[07:48:27] *** Killsudo has joined #opensolaris[07:48:50] *** lewellyn has quit IRC[07:50:04] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[07:52:02] *** dijenerate has joined #opensolaris[08:02:51] *** hsn_ has joined #opensolaris[08:03:13] *** ZeroHour_ has quit IRC[08:03:40] *** ZeroHour_ has joined #opensolaris[08:06:06] *** held has quit IRC[08:06:06] *** Gugge has quit IRC[08:06:21] *** echobinary1 has joined #opensolaris[08:06:24] *** dubf has joined #opensolaris[08:06:27] *** held has joined #opensolaris[08:06:33] *** echobinary has quit IRC[08:07:00] *** nightwish has quit IRC[08:10:50] *** Gugge has joined #opensolaris[08:14:52] *** nightwish has joined #opensolaris[08:19:46] *** noyb has quit IRC[08:23:23] *** hsn_ has left #opensolaris[08:31:33] *** m2acis has joined #opensolaris[08:52:36] *** noyb has joined #opensolaris[08:55:33] *** Crypticfortune has quit IRC[09:09:11] *** Chipdancer has quit IRC[09:10:23] *** Stellar has quit IRC[09:11:52] *** Chipdancer has joined #opensolaris[09:13:58] *** Stellar has joined #opensolaris[09:14:01] *** Stellar has joined #opensolaris[09:19:47] *** leptir has joined #opensolaris[09:28:16] *** Tpenta has quit IRC[09:36:20] *** Tpenta has joined #opensolaris[09:40:42] *** Killsudo has quit IRC[09:41:09] *** Killsudo has joined #opensolaris[09:42:09] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[09:42:35] *** dijenerate has joined #opensolaris[09:43:46] *** Statts has quit IRC[09:48:30] *** ewdafa has joined #opensolaris[09:52:02] *** noyb has quit IRC[10:02:32] *** galt has joined #opensolaris[10:04:42] *** nonnooo has joined #opensolaris[10:04:54] *** tsoome has quit IRC[10:23:40] *** wdp has joined #opensolaris[10:23:40] *** wdp has quit IRC[10:23:40] *** wdp has joined #opensolaris[10:25:56] *** snuff-home2 has joined #opensolaris[10:28:42] *** snuff-home has quit IRC[10:33:40] *** tsoome has joined #opensolaris[10:36:07] *** javashin has quit IRC[10:58:43] *** Chipdancer has quit IRC[11:01:03] *** Dagobert has joined #opensolaris[11:03:54] *** Chipdancer has joined #opensolaris[11:05:44] *** stevel has quit IRC[11:06:27] *** hsp has joined #opensolaris[11:10:26] *** st-5426 has quit IRC[11:14:15] *** blu has quit IRC[11:18:42] *** blu has joined #opensolaris[11:49:16] *** snuff-home2 is now known as snuff-home[12:03:10] *** savageCW has joined #opensolaris[12:04:11] *** Statts has joined #opensolaris[12:06:07] <savageCW> hello, i have a zfs nas box for home use and recently bought a 4port sata controller and would like to copy the data from the zfs nas box to another system that has the 4port sata controller. my question is, if i use say rsync would that copy the data over fine considering that its copying using rsync from opensolaris to windows..if thats even possible?[12:07:26] <savageCW> i am basically trying to backup my data from my zfs nas to just a pc with 4port controller in case the worst case scenario happens. the zfs nas box is currently running raidz1[12:09:17] <lblume> You'll be better off by usin gan archive file then, tar or zfs send. That will avoid all the mess with going to/from an OS with different ideas of what files ownership, permissions and names can be.[12:10:52] *** mmu_man has joined #opensolaris[12:12:16] <savageCW> lblume: thanks for that, dont know much about gan, will google it now. thanks, thats what i thought. it might not be ideal but normally when i backup from windows to opensoalris via winscp for example (i know it might not be the best method) it always compares sizes to be different even though its the same...[12:15:03] <lblume> savageCW: Typo, ¨using an archive file¨:-)[12:15:27] <savageCW> lblume: oh heh thanks was just about to ping you about that :P[12:16:59] *** nikolam has joined #opensolaris[12:21:42] <nikolam> So, opensolaris.org page for source code collaboration project is dead, killed by Oracle?[12:23:11] <nikolam> Who's igenious idea was that at Oracle. It seems they do not want any new customers, just buyers for legacy applications.[12:24:37] *** derchris has quit IRC[12:24:59] *** derchris has joined #opensolaris[12:25:13] <CosmicDJ> nikolam: the whole opensolaris.org site seems to be down[12:30:45] <nikolam> CosmicDJ, it makes me sorry for not editing wikipedia OpenSolaris page, to stop referencing to only binary distribution, but to display code consolidations collaboration instead.[12:34:51] <sickness> http://glow.mozilla.org <- under solaris it works as a fork-bomb :P[12:35:55] *** calum has joined #opensolaris[12:41:14] <seanmcg> not here sickness .. whats it forking ?[12:46:04] <nikolam> seems like su-b pages of opensolaris.org are loading, something like when Oracle killed sun.com..[12:54:00] <sickness> I don't know, it just starts to swap and I loose control of the UI[12:54:10] <sickness> it sux[12:54:11] <sickness> :)[13:00:10] *** st-9828 has joined #opensolaris[13:00:17] <seanmcg> ok, but not a 'fork' bomb then ? Hanging machine in other ways ?-P[13:01:14] *** st-9828 has quit IRC[13:02:22] <sickness> well it's not a proper fork bomb, or it's not purposely that, but it achieves the same effect, to render the machine unusable :)[13:05:28] *** savageCW has quit IRC[13:06:36] *** Hyphenex has joined #opensolaris[13:07:13] <Hyphenex> howdy. Quick question.. if I want to install CC, how do I find out what package that exists in?[13:08:09] *** wdp has left #opensolaris[13:08:37] <Stric> Hyphenex: Sun/Oracle Studio, separate download.[13:09:05] <Hyphenex> Stric: ahh, so I can't just use 'pkg install'?[13:09:26] <Stric> pkg search studio and see if it's there, might be depending on what you run[13:10:52] <Hyphenex> Stric: what if I knew the command, CC, but I didn't know what package it was in?[13:11:11] *** st-10005 has joined #opensolaris[13:11:30] <Stric> pkg search -r CC[13:12:53] *** st-10005 has quit IRC[13:13:10] <Hyphenex> omg there's heaps[13:15:44] <Hyphenex> Stric: so I can install sunstudio12u1 at 12 dot 1-0.111 if it looks like the one I want?[13:18:07] *** Toiletbowl has joined #opensolaris[13:18:23] <Stric> Hyphenex: If that's what you want, then that's what you want..[13:22:57] *** st-10104 has joined #opensolaris[13:30:58] *** nikolam has quit IRC[13:34:41] *** nikolam has joined #opensolaris[13:35:30] *** ganbold has joined #opensolaris[13:35:31] <Hyphenex> Thanks Stric, works like a charm[13:35:48] *** st-10104 has quit IRC[13:39:17] *** InTheWings has joined #opensolaris[13:40:23] *** moved has quit IRC[13:44:17] *** hajma has joined #opensolaris[13:52:29] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[13:56:28] <hajma> Hi, there is no limit in pathname length in ZFS on S11, correct?[13:58:28] <lblume> Probably not, I'd hope, but everything else has a limit, so it's probably impossible to say.[13:58:35] <tsoome> #define PATH_MAX 1024 /* max # of characters in a path name */[13:58:56] <hajma> well, there's dozens of this #define in /usr/include[13:59:12] <hajma> and right now I've got a dir of 12000 characters[13:59:26] <tsoome> useful.[13:59:39] <tsoome> you will get tired before you can finish typing it....[13:59:54] <lblume> tsoome: That's why we get completion![14:00:07] <hajma> funny when you have a third party library that stores pathname in a buffer of 4096 bytes :-)[14:00:08] <lblume> Only the 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134 to 134b[19:08:10] <jshsmn> If not using ZFS encryption, would you guys recommend upgrading from Opensolaris 134 to Solaris 11 Express (this is for a production system that servers up VM disks via iSCSI (iSER)).[19:09:44] <alanc> well, if you upgrade a production system to Solaris 11 Express, then you need to buy a support contract, as it's not licensed for production use without one[19:10:05] <alanc> on the bright side, a support contract gives you access to the support repo to get bug fixes[19:11:03] <jshsmn> Yes, if we go that route we would buy a support contract.[19:12:38] <jshsmn> I was just wondering if people were finding solaris 11 express to be >= the stability of OpenSolaris 134 or if there were any gotchas that were widely known with Solaris 11 Express[19:13:40] <tsoome> it has been very nice to me.[19:16:39] <tsoome> for stability - cant tell yet, because i had 134 for an almost an year, but s11 is not that old[19:17:36] *** tomocha66 has quit IRC[19:17:43] *** 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he's amazed by the things you see at brochures[19:55:03] <hjf2010> so he asked me to set up a "storage server" for his network[19:55:35] <hjf2010> he got himself a tiny server and his "storage" is just a 1tb disk[19:55:46] <Stric> show him http://lh5.ggpht.com/_CrIH-WxMqyY/SYWPQRbyMyI/AAAAAAAAE3U/5bVW63X0IoA/s912/Screenshot-112-ftp.fsn.hu-sync-started.jpg and then the price tag[19:57:22] <hjf2010> yes i tried to explain that to him. no point in having those graphs if he's the only one using the server :P[19:58:13] <hjf2010> also, he can't make sense of those. he doesn't know what NFS is, or what iops are[19:58:23] <Stric> but you still want to do it, for some reason..[19:58:44] <Stric> "Please do all this work for me, which has no real use" "Ok"[19:58:50] *** nonnooo has quit IRC[19:59:32] <hjf2010> lol, maybe there was a package i could just install and that's it[19:59:46] <hjf2010> i think webmin generates some graphs so i installed that[20:00:21] <hjf2010> actually it's more of a "plug"- he's a salesman, i'm a freelance sysadmin, he got me 3 jobs already[20:00:49] <tsoome> you can download the 7k VM[20:02:08] *** FrankLv has quit IRC[20:04:15] *** FrankLv has joined #opensolaris[20:07:13] *** solar_ has quit IRC[20:12:25] *** Stellar has joined #opensolaris[20:13:09] *** Stellar has quit IRC[20:13:56] *** Stellar has joined #opensolaris[20:13:58] *** Stellar has joined #opensolaris[20:14:02] *** Stellar has quit IRC[20:18:36] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[20:26:57] *** Morfio has quit IRC[20:28:08] *** ingenthr has quit IRC[20:30:58] *** Stellar has joined #opensolaris[20:32:19] *** dijenerate has joined #opensolaris[20:39:02] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[20:39:58] *** ingenthr has joined #opensolaris[20:43:20] *** tomww has quit IRC[20:51:13] *** dijenerate has joined #opensolaris[21:03:54] *** thadin has joined #opensolaris[21:05:32] *** hajma has quit IRC[21:05:39] <thadin> Hi, my server suddenly rejects all remote traffic. I can't connect with it through http / ssh anything. But I've checked the server has still internet connectivity and it has still the same ip. The ipfilter is empty[21:06:54] <thadin> reject = not responding. My ping gives a time out as well[21:07:07] *** kimc has joined #opensolaris[21:07:08] *** kimc has joined #opensolaris[21:15:10] <thadin> I've checked and it's from multiple clients[21:33:58] <Stric> can the server connect out?[21:34:39] <thadin> yes[21:34:40] *** jshsmn has left #opensolaris[21:35:39] <thadin> when I turned it off yesterday it was working fine, now I can't connect anymore :S[21:35:45] *** iqbala has joined #opensolaris[21:36:28] <galt> did you do a reconfigure reboot?[21:37:13] <thadin> not that I know off[21:37:33] <thadin> I tried to install cherokee but it failed so I did an uninstall again[21:37:43] <thadin> not really anything special[21:39:13] *** jamesd_laptop has quit IRC[21:41:34] <thadin> any idea what could "block" incoming connections?[21:43:12] <tsoome> ipf[21:44:04] <thadin> pfexec ipfstat -ni empty list for ipfilter(in)[21:44:09] <scarcry> tsoome: thadin mentioned ipfilter is empty[21:44:36] <tsoome> people have had issues with that empry ipf before[21:44:38] <pfn> hmm, I wonder if mono is in IPS anywhere[21:44:40] <tsoome> empty*[21:45:00] <tsoome> you may wanna feed it wit pass in all pass out all[21:46:05] <thadin> I tried svadm disable ipfilter[21:46:09] <thadin> doesn't make any difference[21:46:54] <tsoome> snoop on that if, see if the incoming packets are there[21:47:00] <scarcry> try snooping[21:50:00] <thadin> doesn't look like it :([21:51:50] <thadin> do I need to just call "snoop" btw or does it require any parameters[21:53:38] <thadin> ah, I have response now with snoop on another interface[21:54:38] <thadin> I see an ICMP request & reply, but my client said Request timed out.[21:54:59] <scarcry> pfexec snoop -d device and icmp[22:00:54] <thadin> I don't get it, ipfilter is empty for in & out. but I don't receive the icmp reply[22:02:23] <scarcry> does your server have multiple interfaces configured using same subnet maybe?[22:03:03] <thadin> yes, 192.168.1. with 2 & 3 at the end subnet is 255.255.255.0[22:03:59] <thadin> dladm show-link says that e1000g1 is down. maybe that is the problem.[22:05:18] <scarcry> e1000g0 is the interface you're trying to ping from clients?[22:06:05] <thadin> I've tried both[22:08:09] <thadin> I can't get e1000g1 up; ifconfig e1000g1 up doesn't give an error / success message but the interface stays down in dladm show-link[22:12:20] <scarcry> ipadm show-addr shows correct ip address on e1000g1?[22:14:27] <thadin> my opensolaris (nexenta) doesn't have ipadm; ifconfig -a is the correct ip addresses[22:15:34] <scarcry> dumb question: you're trying to ifconfig up e1000g1 as root correct?[22:15:49] <thadin> yes[22:15:57] <scarcry> have you made sure ipfilter is truly disabled by running svcs ipfilter ?[22:16:17] <thadin> yes; state = disabled[22:18:50] <thadin> weird thing is that ifconfig -a both interfaces has "UP" as the first flag[22:19:36] *** timsf has joined #opensolaris[22:21:05] <scarcry> can you pastebin 'netstat -rn' output ? wanna know to which interface the 192.168.1.0 destination is set to[22:22:07] <scarcry> since both interfaces are configured for same subnet you said[22:22:49] <scarcry> route -n get 192.168.1.0 output will do too[22:23:20] <thadin> http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/2/netstato.jpg[22:24:34] *** tomww has joined #opensolaris[22:25:27] <scarcry> so there's no default IPv4 route set to an interface and e1000g1 has 192.168.1.3 but is down according to dladm but shown as UP according to ifconfig[22:25:32] <scarcry> that's very strange[22:25:42] *** fOB has quit IRC[22:25:50] <thadin> like I said.. weird xD[22:26:16] <scarcry> are both interfaces under nwam control ?[22:26:24] <scarcry> i don't know nexenta[22:27:20] <thadin> but about netstat... is it normal that gateway says 1.3 ? that is the ip of e1000g1, bit strange to have its on ip as gateway?[22:27:32] <scarcry> or is nwam disabled and are you using network/physical:default to use static IP assignments on your server interfaces ?[22:27:54] *** mmu_man has joined #opensolaris[22:28:09] <scarcry> gateway in netstat output is correct[22:28:25] <scarcry> it's not the DEFAULT route[22:28:32] <thadin> I don't know nwam.[22:28:51] <thadin> I can't remember how I've set the ips either. probaly through napp-it[22:29:29] <scarcry> what does svcs nwam say ?[22:29:41] <thadin> disabled[22:30:25] <scarcry> as expected..and 'svcs network/physical:default' ?[22:30:44] *** sahafeez has joined #opensolaris[22:31:08] <thadin> online[22:31:56] *** nikolam has joined #opensolaris[22:32:58] *** sahafeez has quit IRC[22:33:36] <thadin> time[22:41:07] <thadin> great, now I've no outside connection either on my server[22:41:50] <tsoome> progress:D[22:41:55] <scarcry> that's because no default route seems to be set based on your netstat output[22:41:57] <thadin> internet is down as well :( I've enabled e1000g0 again in ifconfig to try to get my internet back but doesn't help.. this is my new netstat.. http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/1740/weirdnesss.jpg[22:42:32] <thadin> I'll go for another reboot trying to get my internet back :P[22:43:04] <scarcry> if you know how your IPs are configured you could try to do an svcadm restart network/physical:default[22:43:22] <scarcry> no DHCP involved correct?[22:43:44] *** Dagobert has quit IRC[22:43:44] <thadin> for my clients, so there is a dhcp on the subnet. but the ips on the server are static[22:44:17] <scarcry> what i don't get is no interface name is shown for the default route[22:44:38] <scarcry> what does 'route -n get default' say ?[22:44:49] <scarcry> interested in the interface[22:45:12] <thadin> cool, internet is back. still no interface in netstat at default[22:46:24] <thadin> http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/3161/defaultve.jpg[22:46:45] *** needle_ has joined #opensolaris[22:47:28] <scarcry> that doesn't make sense.. default route (needed for connectivity to your upstream router/modem) is set to e1000g1 which is down according to dladm[22:47:29] *** _Tenchi_ has joined #opensolaris[22:47:33] <scarcry> so you shouldn't have internet[22:47:41] <scarcry> if i'm reading this correctly[22:48:49] <thadin> here screen with ifconfig -a and dladm http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/8749/roflt.jpg[22:52:43] <scarcry> ifconfig -a for e1000g1 isn't showing RUNNING interface flags so clearly down[22:52:47] <scarcry> no ipmp configured ?[22:53:03] <thadin> "ipmp" doesn't ring a bell so guess not[22:54:11] *** ganbold has quit IRC[22:54:22] <tsoome> ifconfig ifname group test on both[22:55:18] <tsoome> it may be good idea to do that, maybe you get some data[22:56:29] <tsoome> missing running indicates you have no link, check the cables.[22:57:07] <scarcry> was just about to ask how server is connected to switch/router..tried switching cables from e1000g0 w/ e1000g1 ?[22:57:20] <tsoome> why you have 2 interfaces in first place?[22:57:46] <scarcry> it's his server but isn't a router[22:58:22] <thadin> rofl, I fail, one of the network cables was missing a clip so it wasn't fully plugged in[22:58:27] <tsoome> just get it running with 1 first[22:58:28] <thadin> I get a ping response now[22:58:58] <thadin> but I have 2 interfaces to have a backup when 1 fails, but that clearly doesn't work[22:59:07] <scarcry> still doesn't make sense to me how you can have working internet if default route is bound to e1000g1 which didn't have al ink[22:59:10] <scarcry> a link*[22:59:23] <tsoome> use the group with ifconfig and it will[23:00:07] <tsoome> ifconfig e1000g0 group test and same with another[23:00:12] <tomww> cluster software always uses the grouping and the working IP address ontop[23:00:23] <tsoome> not only cluster[23:00:43] <scarcry> what tsoome is referring to is ipmp (link-based)[23:01:04] <tsoome> yep[23:02:16] <tsoome> once you have group on both, unplug one cable and observe[23:02:21] <thadin> what is supposed to happen with ifconfig e1000g0 group test ? I see now a groupname in ifconfig -a but I don't get response[23:02:25] <scarcry> time to hit the pillow.. gl w/ your setup thadin[23:02:37] <thadin> thank you very much for your time :)[23:02:41] <scarcry> yw[23:03:01] <tsoome> set same groupname on another as well[23:03:09] <tsoome> then enter dmesg[23:03:29] <tsoome> you should see ipmp messages about missing test addresses[23:03:34] <tsoome> which is ok[23:03:59] <thadin> yes, link has gone down & failure detected[23:04:09] <tsoome> and now if you unplug one cable, the address from that if will jump to another if[23:04:39] <tsoome> since that setup does not have test ip's, only link failures are detected[23:04:52] <scarcry> just remember that what you set thru ifconfig isn't persistent across reboots[23:05:20] <tsoome> for rest, get docs from oracle docs site, and read about IPMP[23:05:23] <thadin> that is a good thing otherwise I would have lost my internet connection a minute ago xD[23:05:38] <scarcry> kk..i'm off[23:06:16] <thadin> I'm off to, I'll test more tomorrow, I'm tired. stupid daylight savings time[23:07:23] <thadin> but thanks an see you around[23:07:46] *** thadin has quit IRC[23:08:15] *** jelmd_ has joined #opensolaris[23:08:15] *** jelmd has quit IRC[23:08:16] *** jelmd_ is now known as jelmd[23:16:29] *** iqbala has left #opensolaris[23:18:04] *** axisys has joined #opensolaris[23:18:30] *** deet has joined #opensolaris[23:21:09] *** Mech0z has quit IRC[23:21:24] *** nikolam has quit IRC[23:32:59] *** needle_ has quit IRC[23:34:49] *** Hedonista has quit IRC[23:36:46] *** dajhorn has quit IRC[23:37:05] *** Hedonista has joined #opensolaris[23:38:19] *** hsp has quit IRC[23:46:44] *** needle_ has joined #opensolaris[23:47:16] *** javashin has joined #opensolaris[23:50:56] *** javashin has quit IRC