March 25, 2011 
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#opensolaris[02:03:25] *** balrog has joined #opensolaris[02:05:45] *** CodeWar has joined #opensolaris[02:10:17] *** nikolam has quit IRC[02:11:15] *** odyi has quit IRC[02:18:21] *** odyi has joined #opensolaris[02:18:22] *** odyi has joined #opensolaris[02:26:45] *** Hedonista has left #opensolaris[02:27:00] *** Hedonista has joined #opensolaris[02:34:34] *** CodeWar has quit IRC[02:34:51] *** wng has joined #opensolaris[02:35:45] <wng> How stable is 134b?[02:36:33] <jbk> more stable than gary busey and charlie sheen partying together[02:36:36] <jbk> if that helps[02:39:37] <wng> usable in production or no?[02:40:01] <kdavy> wng: usable in hollywood production, definitely[02:40:26] <jbk> yeah, though if you go with openindiana, you get some nice bug fixes (you can't use solaris express in production according to it's license, or else that'd work too)[02:41:19] <wng> i'd have to talk someone into openindiana, if 134 is usable it includes the modules we need and requires no meetings..[02:43:26] *** deet1 has quit IRC[02:45:46] <alanc> you can use solaris express in production, if you buy a support contract for it - it's just not available for production use for free[02:52:35] *** FrankLv has quit IRC[02:53:37] <jbk> ahh[02:53:42] <jbk> i thought it was across the board[02:53:43] <jbk> my bad[02:54:24] <alanc> no, basically same license terms as S10 - free evaluation/development, buy a support contract for production[02:55:44] <alanc> also, no updates, not even security fixes, without a support contract, so even if you ignore the honor system terms of the license, you really don't want to put into production without support[02:58:31] *** moved has quit IRC[03:00:39] *** deet has joined #opensolaris[03:02:15] *** ivo_ has quit IRC[03:05:57] *** sahafeez has quit IRC[03:07:18] *** Edgeman has quit IRC[03:08:01] *** FrankLv has joined #opensolaris[03:09:29] *** Edgeman has joined #opensolaris[03:20:36] *** Spencer_tt has quit IRC[03:36:58] *** moved has 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I have 72 being exported, can see them in format, but don't know how to add them to a zpool[19:22:18] <wng> c4t5000C50025F855A3d0?[19:23:16] *** held has joined #opensolaris[19:23:41] <wng> thats ugly![19:26:31] <tsoome> so?[19:26:53] <wdp_> ln -s[19:26:55] <wdp_> *scnr*[19:26:56] <wng> I have 72 of them to add :([19:27:18] <wng> can I pipe a file of disk names to zpool create?[19:27:24] <tsoome> no[19:27:31] <tsoome> but you have your shell[19:27:46] <tsoome> and shell has for, while and so on[19:28:25] <wng> xargs will probably work[19:28:41] <tsoome> what kind of pool architecture are you planning to use?[19:28:45] <wng> raidz2[19:28:48] <wng> its for a customer, not me[19:29:33] <wng> OS on a 160GB SSD in a separate zpool, 100TB backup raidz2, and the last 20 disks in a raidz2 as a data partition[19:29:35] <tsoome> thats really not important:D[19:30:29] <tsoome> cd /dev/dsk; ls c4t5*d0 > /tmp/disks[19:30:44] <tsoome> and you can start to think about grouping, scripting etc[19:30:58] <wng> echo | format | grep c4 | grep -v scsi | awk '{print $2}' | head -n 52[19:31:02] <wng> first 52 disks[19:31:08] <wng> = 100TB raidz2[19:31:25] *** vieq has left #opensolaris[19:32:26] <wng> oh shit[19:34:12] <monsted> putting 52 disks in a raidz2 is probably not a good idea[19:34:13] <wng> a lot easier than I though[19:34:18] <wng> not my issue[19:34:27] <wng> I create it and ship it, he wants what he wants[19:34:37] <richlowe> doubtful[19:34:42] <richlowe> thinks he wants what he wants, more likely :)[19:34:56] <tsoome> not only probably, but definitely not an good idea[19:35:06] <wng> why?[19:35:25] *** hrist has quit IRC[19:35:37] <wng> just wondering[19:35:39] <tsoome> 3 dead disks and bye-bye 100TB.[19:35:54] <tsoome> also, its slow.[19:36:28] *** mmu_man has joined #opensolaris[19:37:04] <wng> you can't pipe to 'tail' in opensolaris?[19:37:19] <tsoome> sure you can[19:37:30] <wng> ah, n is a number not a switch[19:39:27] <tsoome> if you have 52 disks in single raid6, you need to read 50 disks to create 2 parity blocks...[19:41:31] *** calum has joined #opensolaris[19:43:44] *** PrestonConnors has quit IRC[19:47:44] *** PrestonConnors has joined #opensolaris[19:49:03] <eklof> I have a 12-disk raidz2, where do you guys consider the upper limit for a single vdev ?[19:49:10] <richlowe> You're thinking of partial stripe writes and raid5/raid6[19:50:38] <richlowe> either that, or I'm being dumber than usual.[20:02:19] *** calum has quit IRC[20:06:54] *** elgar1 has joined #opensolaris[20:07:01] *** elgar has quit IRC[20:10:12] <wng> why is a 52x2TB raidz2 only 88TB? Isn't that losing 12TB of usable space if it uses the same as a RAID6?[20:10:35] *** Z` has quit IRC[20:11:06] <eklof> the total of 2TB is like 1.86 formatted, so it adds up in 52 disks I guess.[20:12:36] <wng> adding 3 more drives makes it 100TB...[20:12:45] <wng> makes no sense...[20:12:49] *** hajma has joined #opensolaris[20:13:17] <eklof> that's a bit strange[20:14:07] *** moved has quit IRC[20:14:10] *** mikefut has joined #opensolaris[20:16:29] *** Morfio has joined #opensolaris[20:17:04] <PrestonConnors> what is considered more stable, opensolaris 134b or solaris 11 express 2010.11 ?[20:17:37] <PrestonConnors> and is there a page that lists all bug fixes / feature additions between 134b and solaris 11 express?[20:18:19] <eklof> I'd choose sol11express any day[20:18:41] *** Spencer_tt has joined #opensolaris[20:18:41] *** Spencer_tt has joined #opensolaris[20:18:59] <eklof> But there is still some quirks to be sorted out with the encryption in zfs i think.[20:19:13] <eklof> I'm hoping for the next release, if any :)[20:19:46] <PrestonConnors> ok[20:21:37] *** hrist has joined #opensolaris[20:23:57] *** nonnooo has quit IRC[20:24:41] *** robinbowes has joined #opensolaris[20:27:07] *** leptir has quit IRC[20:31:18] *** Spencer_tt has quit IRC[20:46:34] *** elgar1 has quit IRC[20:50:13] <melbogia> what package provides iscsitadm?[20:52:52] <Triskelios> pkg search -r iscsitadm[20:53:15] <melbogia> thanks[20:56:45] <CosmicDJ> eklof: there have been 2 updates to sol11 express already (if I got that right on oracle's support site)[21:01:33] *** mibocote has joined #opensolaris[21:06:42] <CosmicDJ> 4 updates, sorry[21:14:57] *** PrestonConnors has left #opensolaris[21:16:29] *** mibocote has left #opensolaris[21:22:55] *** Gman has quit IRC[21:26:57] *** fisted has quit IRC[21:31:44] *** fisted has joined #opensolaris[21:41:52] <eklof> Yepp, but I have no support agreement :)[21:42:07] <eklof> So I just have to sit and wait :)[21:42:23] <eklof> Unless next release is totally closed, which I'm afraid it can be.[21:49:09] <alanc> my crystal ball is no shinier than yours, but it seems the safest bet would be to expect future releases to continue to be under the same terms as Solaris 10 & 11 Express currently are[21:52:00] *** Morfio has quit IRC[21:59:19] *** wonko has quit IRC[21:59:25] *** wonko has joined #opensolaris[21:59:54] *** wonko has quit IRC[22:00:08] *** wonko has joined #opensolaris[22:07:55] <tsoome> Safari can’t open the page “http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/documentation/solaris-11-192991.html” because the server where this page is located isn’t responding.[22:08:06] <tsoome> what an surprise....[22:08:49] *** Stellar has joined #opensolaris[22:09:19] <jelmd> works 4 me[22:14:48] *** iqbala has quit IRC[22:15:39] <tsoome> interesting...[22:15:59] *** pizdec has quit IRC[22:18:55] *** hunter_ has joined #opensolaris[22:19:50] *** hunter has quit IRC[22:19:51] *** stevel has quit IRC[22:19:51] *** hunter_ is now known as hunter[22:21:02] *** Edgeman has quit IRC[22:21:37] *** stevel has joined #opensolaris[22:21:38] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stevel[22:27:29] *** Edgeman has joined #opensolaris[22:28:04] <CIA-49> SFE jurikm: SFExfdesktop.spec: bump to 4.8.0, move to SFE from osol xfce[22:33:11] *** joshua_ has quit IRC[22:34:31] *** Gman has joined #opensolaris[22:34:32] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Gman[22:35:13] *** joshua_ has joined #opensolaris[22:44:09] *** Gman has quit IRC[23:02:13] *** ingenthr has joined #opensolaris[23:05:21] *** russiane39 has quit IRC[23:08:36] *** mikefut has quit IRC[23:08:38] *** tsoome has quit IRC[23:09:45] *** deet1 has joined #opensolaris[23:15:03] *** tsoome has joined #opensolaris[23:23:07] *** derchris has quit IRC[23:23:28] *** derchris has joined #opensolaris[23:23:45] *** melbogia1 has joined #opensolaris[23:24:35] *** ianj has quit IRC[23:26:17] *** melbogia has quit IRC[23:31:57] *** ianj has joined #opensolaris[23:33:09] *** djinni has quit IRC[23:34:15] *** djinni has joined #opensolaris[23:43:30] *** hsp has quit IRC