March 24, 2011 
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March 24, 2011 [00:02:11] *** hajma has quit IRC[00:03:35] *** libkeiser has quit IRC[00:04:01] *** melbogia has joined #opensolaris[00:07:00] *** libkeiser has joined #opensolaris[00:08:17] *** Mech0z_ has quit IRC[00:15:53] *** hajma has joined #opensolaris[00:17:09] *** libkeiser has quit IRC[00:21:44] *** miine has joined #opensolaris[00:24:54] *** libkeiser has joined #opensolaris[00:26:02] *** ArchX86 has joined #opensolaris[00:29:14] *** _RadioHead has quit IRC[00:34:08] *** IDoNotKnow has quit IRC[00:37:51] *** jelmd_ has joined #opensolaris[00:37:52] *** jelmd has quit IRC[00:37:58] *** jelmd_ is now known as jelmd[00:38:26] <CIA-49> SFE tom68: SFEntfs-3g.spec: bump to 2011.1.15[00:38:36] <CIA-49> SFE tom68: SFEddrescue.spec: bump to 1.14[00:40:44] *** balrog has quit IRC[00:44:46] *** balrog has joined #opensolaris[00:46:42] *** ewdafa has quit IRC[00:46:57] *** IDoNotKnow has joined #opensolaris[00:49:13] *** balrog has quit IRC[00:50:19] *** balrog has joined #opensolaris[00:50:19] *** jelmd has quit IRC[00:50:20] *** jelmd_ has joined #opensolaris[00:50:20] *** jelmd_ is now known as jelmd[01:02:50] *** balrog has quit IRC[01:03:28] <macros73> do you always have to use zfs send with a snapshot, or can I just send the pool without taking a snapshot first?[01:03:57] *** derchris has quit IRC[01:04:44] *** ArchX86 is now known as _RadioHead[01:06:18] <tsoome> you *always* need snapshot, because thats only way to ensure the consistency[01:06:31] <macros73> k, thought that was the reason. Just being lazy with the home server. :D[01:07:14] <macros73> I also just realized, I didn't format these new disks I just used to create a mirror. Are you generally not supposed to format disks before adding to a pool?[01:07:36] <tsoome> format disks?[01:08:00] <tsoome> disks came formatted from factory.[01:08:20] <macros73> for some reason I thought they'd need partitioned or something.[01:08:41] <tsoome> setting up pool or mirror side will "format" them - in sense of creating filesystem.[01:08:56] <tsoome> no, zpool will do that for you[01:09:07] <tsoome> *only* exception is the rpool mirror.[01:09:26] <tsoome> for rpool, you need to create appropriate partitioning manually.[01:09:36] <macros73> I wonder if I did something stupid with my data pool disks, I partitioned them manually before creating a pool with them.[01:10:00] <macros73> Is that possible? and if done, could it result in subpar performance?[01:10:03] *** stevel has quit IRC[01:10:14] <tsoome> if you did use cXtYd0 device, that partitioning was overwritten;)[01:10:17] <macros73> er, the pool I am migrated[01:10:37] <macros73> Yeah, when I created the original data pool, that's what I did.[01:11:10] *** _RadioHead has left #opensolaris[01:20:32] *** TreFitty has joined #opensolaris[01:25:35] *** Toiletbowl has quit IRC[01:30:02] *** miine has quit IRC[01:40:46] *** wdp has quit IRC[01:51:54] *** _Tenchi_ has joined #opensolaris[01:51:55] *** ZeroHour has joined #opensolaris[01:53:11] *** wdp has joined #opensolaris[01:57:15] *** moved has quit IRC[01:59:22] *** ZeroHour_ has joined #opensolaris[02:02:41] *** ZeroHour has quit IRC[02:09:49] *** niq has quit IRC[02:15:46] *** ingenthr has quit IRC[02:27:24] *** Spencer_tt has quit IRC[02:38:27] *** Spencer_tt has joined #opensolaris[02:38:27] *** Spencer_tt has joined #opensolaris[03:01:25] *** sahafeez has quit IRC[03:04:25] *** Stric has quit IRC[03:11:22] *** Stric has joined #opensolaris[03:29:56] *** iqbala has joined #opensolaris[03:46:38] *** CodeWar has joined #opensolaris[03:49:14] <CodeWar> my goal is to load Solaris 11 Express on my T1000 using AI. However while doing so I realized my networking concepts are so bad that I m not able to catch up wtih the blogs / docs for AI[03:49:38] <CodeWar> what should I know inorder to setup a static ip address on Solaris and a DHCP server.. any recommended docs/basics? I ll do this before I even attempt AI[03:50:07] <_Tenchi_> you know what a mac address is, right ?[03:50:21] <_Tenchi_> and a network segment?[03:50:25] <CodeWar> _Tenchi_, yes and I also knwo what ip address is and can setup dhcp on my router[03:50:29] <_Tenchi_> shouldnt need to know much more than that :)[03:50:31] <CodeWar> no not a network segment[03:50:55] <_Tenchi_> network segment is just a local network, ie, hosts can access each other without a router[03:51:37] <CodeWar> my home config is a switch and couple of machines directly connected to it using ethernet .. what would the segment in this eg be[03:51:51] *** hjf has joined #opensolaris[03:52:25] <_Tenchi_> you address all the machines on the same subnet ?[03:52:32] <_Tenchi_> that'd be one network segment[03:53:07] <_Tenchi_> most people only have one network segment on their home networks... possibly 2 if they separate wired and wifi[03:53:45] <CodeWar> fair enough .. msot AI docs / blogs I can follow including all their ipadm commands[03:54:14] <CodeWar> it all fails when I launch this command .. it complains my ip is loopback and wont work[03:54:49] <CodeWar> installadm create-service ....[03:54:56] <CodeWar> http://mexico.purplecow.org/static/ai1.pdf[03:57:06] <hjf> pkgbuild: /usr/sbin/install: invalid option -- f[03:57:11] <hjf> what could be causing that?[03:59:26] <_Tenchi_> CodeWar: you're not trying to register with a 127.0.0.1 address are you ?[03:59:55] *** ShadowHntr has joined #opensolaris[04:00:03] <_Tenchi_> hjf: i'd guess maybe a path issue... gnu install versus a non-gnu install[04:00:09] <ShadowHntr> hey does solaris ldapclient support start_tls?[04:02:45] <CodeWar> _Tenchi_, I ve been following the steps religiously with no intent of mine .. hang on let me try the one relling point me to the other day[04:02:49] <CodeWar> if it fails i ll be back here again :)[04:03:35] <_Tenchi_> ShadowHntr: i think so[04:03:57] <_Tenchi_> CodeWar: i think installadm is sensitive to what you have in your netmasks file[04:04:51] <CodeWar> _Tenchi_, echo 192.168.0.1 255.255.255.0 >>/etc/inet/netmasks[04:05:02] <CodeWar> where 192.168.0.1 is my router address..[04:06:23] <CodeWar> ok let me take a step back and ask a dumber question. To setup an AI server ... I take it its not sufficient if I booted Solaris11 on x86 and had it configured using dhcp rite?[04:06:51] <_Tenchi_> CodeWar: im not sure if it matters, but you might want to be doing 192.168.0.0 rather than 0.1[04:07:15] <_Tenchi_> CodeWar: and also, there is an option to specify a "name" right ?[04:07:29] <_Tenchi_> does that "name" that you are specifying happen to map to 127.0.0.1 in an ipnodes file ?[04:07:55] <_Tenchi_> i've not looked at AI stuff at all, not sure how it interacts with nwam configs either[04:08:23] <CodeWar> _Tenchi_, I have done nothing of the nature explicitly .. I ll need to reinstall Solaris 11 from scratch and follow AI isntructions[04:08:37] <_Tenchi_> that might help, maybe :)[04:08:37] <CodeWar> if there is something I should know or read up /educate myself on first please feel free to yell[04:09:07] <CodeWar> willing to spend a day or two to get basics right .. following AI instructions dumbly has not helped.. I m not kidding tried 4 blogs 3 docs :)[04:09:37] <_Tenchi_> yeah i believe you... you've read/followed the actualy authentic definitive AI docs from oracle, right ?[04:09:51] <CodeWar> http://dlc.sun.com/osol/docs/content/dev/AIinstall/faq.html#switch[04:10:11] <CodeWar> http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E19963-01/html/820-6566/gkfaa.html[04:10:20] <_Tenchi_> are you using opensolaris 20.10.03 or Solaris11 Express ?[04:10:25] <CodeWar> http://www.filibeto.org/sun/lib/solaris11-express-docs/2010.11/820-6566.pdf[04:10:53] <CodeWar> Solaris 11 .. but tried both docs whichever worked :) modus operandi ... clean install Solaris 11 follow steps after screw up reinstall follow next blog :)[04:10:57] <_Tenchi_> ah ok forget the 2010.03 stuff. if you're using solaris11 express from OTN then you'll wanna use the solaris11 express docs[04:12:14] <CodeWar> is this a good place to rant or should I do it in my bath tub? why the heck do I need AI .. I just want to boot from the network.. a dumb idiot like me should be able to say boot net hostname/nfs_mount_to_isofile[04:12:27] <CodeWar> I __dont___ want automation .. jsut want to boot over network ___once____[04:13:37] <_Tenchi_> right[04:13:43] <_Tenchi_> your t1000 has no cd-rom right ?[04:13:52] <CodeWar> hahaha nope .. not even a usb[04:14:22] <CodeWar> i called up my vendor asked him if he could install it on a disk and pass me the disk .. or probably pull out the pcie card and put in something like usb->pcie/[04:14:24] <_Tenchi_> were you the one asking earlier about transplanting an already-installed solaris disk into new hardware ?[04:14:34] <_Tenchi_> hehe[04:14:34] <CodeWar> oh yes that was me[04:14:44] <CodeWar> did my vendor contact you ?[04:15:09] <_Tenchi_> no someone was asking on irc a few days ago[04:15:37] <CodeWar> theres only been one mad man running around IRc trying to boot sol11 on his T1000 .. thats me[04:15:40] <_Tenchi_> but yeah, if i remember the release notes correctly, AI is the way to netboot[04:16:30] <CodeWar> getting back to the hard disk part... why does that not work on SPARC .. works on x86 just fine .. usually if you dont go from amd chipset to intel ones[04:16:57] <_Tenchi_> ive transplanted many harddrives between servers and it's always worked from the systems level[04:17:25] <CodeWar> so I can do that then?[04:17:39] <_Tenchi_> then again, all my installs have been full installs, not one's that have been pruned down by removing drivers and hardware platform support[04:17:56] <_Tenchi_> well, i've never done it with solaris 11 express specifically[04:18:18] <CodeWar> i realized my best bet is to stick it out with AI eventually I ll get it .. disk and pcie sound like red herrings[04:18:24] <_Tenchi_> but i dont see why it wouldnt work, considering oracle distributes virtualbox images with solaris installed[04:18:37] <_Tenchi_> yeah i'd just tough it out with AI[04:19:11] <CodeWar> ok so back to basics.. I want to setup a network interface and assign it a static IP .. any pointers /docs on how to do that[04:19:20] <CodeWar> <b> setup a dhcp server ... again pointers welcome[04:19:33] <CodeWar> maybe practise it a few times get the hang of it then try AI[04:22:05] *** hjf has quit IRC[04:23:08] *** CodeWar has quit IRC[04:29:21] *** edude03 has quit IRC[04:58:12] *** Spencer_tt has quit IRC[05:05:40] *** fOB_2 has joined #opensolaris[05:09:15] *** fOB has quit IRC[05:22:56] *** sahafeez has joined #opensolaris[05:25:42] *** kimc has quit IRC[05:26:30] *** kimc has joined #opensolaris[05:48:08] *** moved has joined #opensolaris[05:56:29] *** hajma has quit IRC[05:57:51] *** Hedonista has quit IRC[06:34:15] *** kumar__ has joined #opensolaris[06:34:23] <kumar__> Hi Everybody[06:34:42] <kumar__> I am trying to complie a c file[06:34:53] <kumar__> header[06:34:53] <kumar__> and it is looking for math.h[06:35:19] <kumar__> file so could anyone let me know which packages I need to install[06:35:19] *** moved has quit IRC[06:35:31] <kumar__> I am using solaris 10[06:35:54] <kumar__> any response will be appreciated[06:36:46] *** taemun has quit IRC[06:37:24] *** taemun has joined #opensolaris[06:37:53] *** moved has joined #opensolaris[06:40:33] *** ingenthr has joined #opensolaris[06:40:59] <bdha> kumar__: http://koberoi.com/2010/11/installing-oracle-solaris-studio-12-2-tarfile-on-solaris-11-express/[06:41:07] <bdha> That list of packages is needed for a useful build env.[06:41:26] <bdha> pkg://openindiana.org/developer/object-file and pkg:/system/xopen/xcu4 are also useful to have.[06:44:11] *** sahafeez has quit IRC[06:49:08] <richlowe> xcu4 is pretty much mandatory[06:49:12] <richlowe> I should fix that next[06:58:38] *** Shoggoth has joined #opensolaris[07:00:53] *** nachox has joined #opensolaris[07:08:58] *** Hedonista has joined #opensolaris[07:20:09] *** nachox has quit IRC[07:25:19] *** paneendra has quit IRC[07:28:45] *** kumar__ has quit IRC[07:31:15] 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I tried .gnomerc and .xprofile without success, and the manual is not terribly helpful on that.[15:50:19] <seanmcg> I used to have xset -b in the .login profile, run if $DISPLAY non-zero[15:53:17] <lblume> Ah well, actually I just understood that .xprofile is run, but it's probably done too early because the contant is not applied.[16:03:34] *** jfisc has joined #opensolaris[16:10:15] *** sancho has quit IRC[16:14:06] *** calumb has joined #opensolaris[16:19:58] *** tsoome has quit IRC[16:21:36] *** sahafeez has joined #opensolaris[16:21:47] *** sahafeez has quit IRC[16:21:59] *** paniczero has quit IRC[16:22:19] *** jfisc has quit IRC[16:25:22] *** jfisc has joined #opensolaris[16:40:43] *** calumb has quit IRC[16:41:40] *** btQuark has quit IRC[16:44:56] *** moved has joined #opensolaris[16:47:09] *** elgar has joined #opensolaris[16:54:00] *** moved has quit IRC[16:54:11] *** wdp has quit IRC[16:55:05] *** Stellar has quit IRC[17:00:31] *** hajma has joined #opensolaris[17:01:24] *** moved has joined #opensolaris[17:11:53] *** calumb has joined #opensolaris[17:12:34] *** Mech0z has joined #opensolaris[17:20:48] *** tsoome has joined #opensolaris[17:21:33] *** mikexcr has joined #opensolaris[17:21:36] *** mikexcr has left #opensolaris[17:25:17] *** galt has quit IRC[17:27:51] *** stevel has joined #opensolaris[17:27:51] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stevel[17:30:51] *** hsp has joined #opensolaris[17:39:48] *** TreFitty has quit IRC[17:42:59] *** InTheWings has joined #opensolaris[17:48:15] *** hajma has quit IRC[17:54:20] *** Dagobert has quit IRC[17:56:44] *** derchris has quit IRC[17:57:18] *** derchris has joined #opensolaris[17:58:39] *** moved has quit IRC[17:59:54] *** m2acis has quit IRC[18:03:16] *** melbogia1 has joined #opensolaris[18:04:18] *** ingenthr has joined #opensolaris[18:05:17] *** melbogia has quit IRC[18:06:54] *** merzo has quit IRC[18:07:29] *** moved has joined #opensolaris[18:13:25] *** mikefut has quit IRC[18:15:00] *** moved has quit IRC[18:15:34] *** moved has joined #opensolaris[18:15:37] *** held has quit IRC[18:15:55] *** galt has joined #opensolaris[18:22:25] *** Erwann has quit IRC[18:30:22] *** Erwann has joined #opensolaris[18:34:54] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[18:39:25] *** ingenthr has quit IRC[18:44:44] *** nonnooo has quit IRC[18:49:23] *** melbogia1 has quit IRC[18:53:43] *** melbogia has joined #opensolaris[18:55:04] *** ingenthr has joined #opensolaris[19:09:39] <CIA-49> SFE tom68: SFEnodejs.spec: bump to 0.4.3[19:09:57] *** melbogia has quit IRC[19:13:52] *** robinbowes has quit IRC[19:20:57] *** sahafeez has joined #opensolaris[19:23:41] *** ingenthr has quit IRC[19:27:30] *** melbogia has joined #opensolaris[19:35:06] *** ingenthr has joined #opensolaris[19:37:22] *** hajma has joined #opensolaris[19:38:44] *** calumb has quit IRC[19:57:49] *** Mech0z has quit IRC[19:57:55] *** Dagobert has joined #opensolaris[20:10:36] *** ingenthr has quit IRC[20:14:02] *** sahafeez has quit IRC[20:21:06] *** Mech0z has joined #opensolaris[20:21:53] *** whiteyOS has joined #opensolaris[20:24:26] *** moved has quit IRC[20:37:18] *** ingenthr has joined #opensolaris[20:40:52] *** ingenthr has quit IRC[20:45:07] *** astra05 has quit IRC[20:54:21] *** astra05 has joined #opensolaris[20:58:38] *** deet1 has joined #opensolaris[21:00:36] *** fisted has joined #opensolaris[21:03:04] *** melbogia1 has joined #opensolaris[21:03:20] *** doug_ndndn has quit IRC[21:04:08] *** melbogia has quit IRC[21:04:45] *** wdp has joined #opensolaris[21:04:45] *** wdp has quit IRC[21:04:45] *** wdp has joined #opensolaris[21:09:36] *** mikefut has joined #opensolaris[21:21:43] *** calumb has joined #opensolaris[21:22:41] *** ingenthr has joined #opensolaris[21:25:08] *** held has joined #opensolaris[21:25:57] *** heldchen has joined #opensolaris[21:26:49] *** derchris has quit IRC[21:28:01] *** doug_ndndn has joined #opensolaris[21:28:37] *** darrenb has quit IRC[21:29:42] *** held has quit IRC[21:33:45] *** mikefut has quit IRC[21:35:07] *** sahafeez has joined #opensolaris[21:36:28] *** PrestonConnors has joined #opensolaris[21:37:19] <PrestonConnors> Hello, I am running OpenSolairs b134 and the zpool I have has lost almost all of its backing store files in /dev/zvol/rdsk/poolname but they show up in zfs list[21:37:26] <PrestonConnors> is there any way to re-create this information or fix this?[21:37:31] *** darrenb has joined #opensolaris[21:37:36] <PrestonConnors> or a service?[21:40:36] *** ingenthr has quit IRC[21:41:54] *** doug_ndndn has quit IRC[21:45:27] *** kimc has quit IRC[21:45:50] *** kimc has joined #opensolaris[21:47:22] <tsoome> lost in /dev/zvol but show up in zfs list?[21:49:00] *** mikefut has joined #opensolaris[21:49:59] <PrestonConnors> sorry was a type[21:50:01] <PrestonConnors> the data is there[21:50:01] <PrestonConnors> :([21:50:03] <PrestonConnors> typo[21:50:36] <monsted> PrestonConnors: zpool export; zpool import?[21:50:59] *** sahafeez has quit IRC[21:54:57] *** hsp has quit IRC[21:55:55] *** hsp has joined #opensolaris[22:00:47] *** AxeZ has joined #opensolaris[22:04:09] <CIA-49> SFE jurikm: SFExfce4-settings.spec: bump to 4.8.0, move to SFE from osol xfce[22:05:24] *** hsp has quit IRC[22:05:49] *** melbogia has joined #opensolaris[22:07:00] *** melbogia1 has quit IRC[22:13:27] *** Spencer_tt has joined #opensolaris[22:16:21] <Meths> SOT: How can you determine all the open NFS file handles in an S10 zone?[22:18:12] <tsoome> man pfiles ?[22:19:50] <Meths> Ah, looks good, thanks.[22:25:44] *** Dagobert has quit IRC[22:26:01] <Meths> hmmm, doesn't list them apparently[22:28:47] <tsoome> ?[22:29:35] *** Mech0z_ has joined #opensolaris[22:31:23] <Meths> NM, I'll check tomorrow when I can see for myself instead of taking someones word for it[22:31:38] *** Mech0z has quit IRC[22:32:18] *** mmu_man has joined #opensolaris[22:32:47] *** PrestonConnors has left #opensolaris[22:37:14] *** mikefut has quit IRC[22:37:46] <tsoome> well, thing is, NFS access is transparent, if you are hoping to see something like server:/path, you wont.[22:41:00] <Meths> hmmm[22:42:15] *** doug_ndndn has joined #opensolaris[22:44:36] <tsoome> you will see th path of the opened file tho, and from that you can check if its in the mountpoint[22:51:43] *** ganbold_ has quit IRC[22:54:36] <CIA-49> SFE jurikm: SFExfce4-session.spec: bump to 4.8.0, move to SFE from osol xfce[22:55:02] *** FastJack has quit IRC[22:59:05] *** FastJack has joined #opensolaris[23:01:23] *** elgar has quit IRC[23:04:23] *** [1]kimc has joined #opensolaris[23:05:52] *** kimc has quit IRC[23:05:52] *** [1]kimc is now known as kimc[23:10:28] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[23:20:29] *** smrt has quit IRC[23:20:45] *** smrt has joined #opensolaris[23:22:22] *** seanmcg_ has joined #opensolaris[23:22:39] *** whiteyOS has quit IRC[23:22:52] *** derchris has joined #opensolaris[23:23:41] *** seanmcg_ has quit IRC[23:24:47] *** dijenerate has joined #opensolaris[23:31:45] *** bobbyz_ has quit IRC[23:36:16] *** moved has joined #opensolaris[23:36:31] *** Meths_ has joined #opensolaris[23:37:53] *** Meths has quit IRC[23:38:02] *** Meths_ is now known as Meths[23:52:58] *** galt has quit IRC