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[01:18:13] <macros73> any thoughts on what could cause very slow time to start copy when copying a directory with many files from OSX to opensolaris via NFS?
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[01:18:57] <macros73> spends a long time "preparing to copy" before anything is actually copied, at which point it moves briskly. same systems via smb don't exhibit the slow start copying issue, but overall performance is about half that of nfs
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[02:04:21] <viking667> quick oldschool question - I'm on Solaris 6/06, and squeak can't find my libs in /usr/X11R6/lib - what variable do I need in the environment so that squeak can find these extra libraries?
[02:04:58] <viking667> I vaguely remember it beginning with LD_....._PATH, but I don't know what bit went in the middle.
[02:06:03] <hjf> crle
[02:06:22] <viking667> Ah, found it.... LD_LIBRARY_PATH.
[02:06:37] <alanc> LD_RUN_PATH when you build it
[02:06:50] <viking667> heh. I didn't know that one...
[02:06:58] <hjf> crle -l /lib:/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib ?
[02:07:01] <viking667> that's the -R parameter to ld, isn't it?
[02:07:10] <viking667> hjf: what the heck's crle?
[02:07:31] <hjf> crle - configure runtime linking environment
[02:07:32] <viking667> oh.
[02:08:12] <viking667> wow. It's been too long since I've played with this, obviously. This command, I'd forgotten. Do I just have to do this once, or is this something I have to stick in a .profile somewhere?
[02:08:28] <hjf> it's a permanent, system-wide setting
[02:08:52] <alanc> crle is a very efficient way to break your system
[02:09:05] <alanc> if you don't know what it is, you should slap anyone who tells you to use it
[02:09:08] <jamesd2> i wonder if crle should be made to take a snapshot of the system before it does what you think it should do so you can back it....
[02:09:53] <viking667> Seems to need a /var/lib/ld.so.conf, I thought I'd seen that file in /etc on Linux systems.
[02:10:01] <hjf> oh crle can backfire,yes. note that it *replaces* the path, not append
[02:10:09] <viking667> whoops, my bad... /var/ld/ld.conf
[02:10:13] <timsf> or it could just destroy your root filesystem for you, and save you the trouble..
[02:10:22] <alanc> and it makes it apply to every program on the system, not just the ones that need the extra libraries
[02:10:37] <viking667> cripes. So entries in ld.config are like ... there's a man page for that file?
[02:10:50] <alanc> better to build the programs that need libraries in other places with -R flags to look there
[02:10:51] <viking667> hm. Nope, not for that one.
[02:11:13] <viking667> yuh. I'll try remembering to feed that to cmake, if only I can figure out how.
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[02:12:30] <viking667> whoops, missed something there.
[02:15:10] <alanc> LD_RUN_PATH environment variable can pass it to the linker when building if your makefiles are too hard to fix
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[02:23:08] <viking667> meh. I can't seem to log into a samba share on my machine... Machine's running Vista, the Solaris machine is as I said before - 6/06
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[02:42:45] <viking667> mc
[02:42:51] <viking667> ouch. Sorry, wrong window.
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[02:49:31] <jelmd> does anybody know, whether ctags comming with S11X is sufficient for opengrok ?
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[04:57:12] <CodeWar> do I have to do something special to enable X tunneling over ssh ... ssh -X doesnt appear to work (says DISPLAY not setup)
[04:57:24] <CodeWar> /etc/ssh/sshd_config does have X11Forwarding yes
[04:59:23] <jamesd__> did you restart sshd after making that change?
[04:59:38] <jamesd__> oh well time for bed.. must sleep
[04:59:54] <CodeWar> jamesd__, hmm I d have to check but I think there was a machine restart .. that said I didnt change anything in sshd_config
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[05:03:10] <CodeWar> nope restart doesnt help either
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[05:06:05] <galt> so ssshdconfig has X11Forwarding yes now, or not?
[05:06:36] <galt> and is your app set up for $DISPLAY
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[05:38:13] <jelmd> from non-solaris WS you might need -Y
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[11:31:08] <maldous> moo.
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[12:24:56] <phretor> hi, many of the libraries that I need to build pyhton-matplotlib are missing from the default repositories after a fresh OI installation. What should I do? Just compile them from source or there are some repos I'm not aware of?
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[13:21:33] <eXeC001er> Hi
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[13:31:44] <eXeC001er> Can you write transcription of ZFS abbreviation?
[13:32:15] <eXeC001er> How to pronounce it correctly?
[13:33:10] <lblume> In which language?
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[13:38:06] <CIA-49> SFE tom68: SFEpython26-matplotlib.spec: initial copy, bump to 1.0.1, set compiler gcc SFEpython26-numpy.spec: initial copy, bump to 1.5.1
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[13:40:05] <CosmicDJ> how about Zee F Ess ?
[13:40:49] <CosmicDJ> you could say zifs, but that could lead to confusion (think of cifs)
[13:45:17] <eXeC001er> lblume: English
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[13:47:53] <Stric> eXeC001er: then problably the default pronounciation of Z, followed by F, followed by S
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[13:48:19] <Stric> it's not like it's a fancy schmancy marketing thing that's written ZFS but pronounced Pkleeeooi
[13:48:37] <eXeC001er> Stric: Zee F Ess ?
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[13:50:05] <paneendra> Hi Everybosy
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[13:50:15] <paneendra> Everybody*
[13:50:46] <paneendra> I installed gcc complier for solaris 10
[13:51:00] <paneendra> but I am unable to compile c files
[13:51:10] <paneendra> could any one assist?
[13:51:17] <Stric> any reason why you don't use the one that already comes with solaris10?
[13:51:55] <paneendra> actually I am trying to install Proc::ProcessTable perl module using CPAN
[13:52:16] <paneendra> CPAN trying to compile some files
[13:52:29] <paneendra> and it is failing to build the mentioned perl module
[13:53:19] <Stric> still waiting for a reply
[13:54:00] <paneendra> CC present on solaris was unable to compile C files
[13:54:19] <Stric> solaris 10 comes with gcc.
[13:54:20] <paneendra> so I installed GCC
[13:54:35] <Stric> /usr/sfw/bin/gcc
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[13:55:22] <paneendra> SunOS blaby 5.10 Generic_127127-11 sun4v sparc SUNW,SPARC-Enterprise-T5220
[13:55:24] <tsoome> man find.
[13:55:41] <paneendra> I checked under the mentioned directory but I dont see GCC
[13:55:59] <tsoome> well, it depends if you did install it in first place.
[13:56:03] <Stric> then grab your install dvd and install SUNWgcc
[13:56:06] <lblume> and there is a #solaris channel for that that would be more helpful specifically for S10, but hey.
[13:56:15] <seanmcg> paneendra, the title of this channel is #opensolaris.
[13:56:24] <seanmcg> ... what lblume said
[13:56:54] <tsoome> if you did install entire distribution, then its in /usr/sfw, if you did install lomething less, then its not.
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[13:57:02] <tsoome> something*
[13:57:07] <seanmcg> anyhows, perl modules may need the sun studio compilers, not gcc
[13:57:24] <tsoome> you can build them with gcc as well btw
[13:57:30] <paneendra> ok, but it is not free I believe
[13:57:54] <tsoome> in it, you do not *BELIEVE*
[13:57:55] <seanmcg> it is downloadable..
[13:58:04] <paneendra> ok
[13:58:10] <paneendra> can you please help me
[13:58:18] <paneendra> provide me the link
[13:58:27] <paneendra> where I can download it
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[13:59:47] <paneendra> Is there any FTP site from where I can get it
[13:59:49] <paneendra> ?
[14:00:20] <Stric> You can start by visiting the url and click download
[14:00:34] <paneendra> ok
[14:00:52] <paneendra> I have one more issue .. I am looking for SUNWhea package
[14:01:04] <paneendra> which helps me resolve issue with GCC
[14:01:17] <tsoome> so you did some minimal install?
[14:01:18] <paneendra> I missing many header files
[14:01:18] <Stric> it's also on your solaris 10 install dvd
[14:01:21] <lblume> You could try putting your Solaris 10 CD in a drive.
[14:01:25] <paneendra> yes
[14:01:31] <paneendra> I installed GCC
[14:01:37] <tsoome> do yourself an favor, and reinstall it with entire software support.
[14:01:58] <paneendra> I am working on production boxes
[14:02:08] <paneendra> so I am afraid
[14:02:10] <tsoome> once you have learnt how to manage it, do lesser installs.
[14:02:47] <tsoome> ah, well, strictly speaking, the production box is not the place where you should develop things;)
[14:03:14] <paneendra> This was pre built box with Solaris 10
[14:03:24] <tsoome> but yea, in such case, you need to add packages manually.
[14:03:33] <paneendra> Yes
[14:03:48] <paneendra> so I am looking for around 5 - 6 packages
[14:04:05] <paneendra> But high importance to SUNWhea
[14:04:07] <tsoome> tha packages are on install dvd(image) in Solaris_10/Product directory
[14:04:53] <paneendra> It was built couple of years ago
[14:05:12] <paneendra> and I can only add packages
[14:05:17] <tsoome> man pkgadd
[14:05:28] <tsoome> you need to use -d switch,
[14:06:00] <paneendra> But I am looking for some site where I can download pacakges
[14:06:03] <paneendra> may be tar balls
[14:06:06] <tsoome> you cant
[14:06:14] <Stric> Your install dvd. Either physical or iso.
[14:06:16] <paneendra> oh ok :(
[14:06:28] <tsoome> solaris 10 is distributed only with either dvd, or dvd image - iso file
[14:09:53] <paneendra> ok
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[14:10:25] <paneendra> Thanks tsoome. I will try to get this sorted out.
[14:10:57] <paneendra> Much Appreciated!!
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[14:13:43] <tsoome> you are welcome.
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[15:39:26] <tsoome> anyone used s9 zones?
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[19:54:14] <Hedonista> is there some kind of issue with brasero that prevents it from burning cd's properly?
[19:55:01] <galt> why aren't you using cdrw?
[19:55:13] <Hedonista> let me try that
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[19:55:20] <Hedonista> thanks galt
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[22:12:32] <CIA-49> SFE kah: * SFEofflineimap.spec, patches/offlineimap-01-multiresponse.diff: Bump to 6.3.2.1 and remove upstream patch.
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[22:41:15] <sali> Helo, i was hearing of opensolaris for sometime then it kinda disappeared.. I was thinking of installing opensolaris on my laptop instead of fedora since most of my servers are solaris :) is there still opensolaris? what is latest version and is it good for a laptop?
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[22:42:52] <Stric> latest version is dead
[22:42:57] <Triskelios> sali: Oracle replaced OpenSolaris with Solaris 11 Express, which has some restrictions on free use
[22:43:09] <sali> oh :(
[22:44:05] <Triskelios> OpenIndiana is a free community distribution
[22:44:21] <sali> oracle... i am starting to dislike it :\
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[22:45:17] <sali> Triskelios: sounds interesting...
[22:45:17] <Triskelios> they also closed the core codebase, so illumos is the community fork of the code
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[22:46:22] <sali> I really loved sun :'''( I wish that oracle thing never happened :(
[22:47:19] <Roksteady> Triskelios: I still don't get those restrictions, I need to read up.
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<sali> I was adviced to check: http://genunix.org/ too.. heard they have some community distribution of solaris..
[22:49:16] <Triskelios> genunix.org is just a mirror site for downloads, although it hasn't been updated for a while
[22:49:43] <Triskelios> oh, looks like NCP is on it now
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[22:50:29] <sali> all seems with no future.. :( better start migrating to something else.. here we come debian..
[22:50:57] <Triskelios> sali: huh? we have several fairly active projects
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[22:51:10] <Roksteady> what's up with EON NAS ? Died with OpenSolaris as well?
[22:51:34] <Triskelios> no idea. it was a one man project
[22:52:01] <sali> Triskelios: were can I see them? you mean openIndiana that was mentioned?
[22:52:29] <Triskelios> sali: can you see the channel topic?
[22:52:59] <sali> Triskelios: ay ok :D
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[22:54:25] <Triskelios> I'm helping with illumos' participation in this year's Google Summer of Code
[22:55:20] <Triskelios> the interest level is pretty high
[22:55:34] <sali> erm.. no DVD installer image? O_o
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[22:56:24] <Triskelios> sali: hm?
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[22:57:19] <Triskelios> illumos is just source code. OpenIndiana has DVD, USB, and network installers
[22:57:30] <sali> Triskelios: nth found it ^_^
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[23:00:24] <sali> Triskelios: will check supported hardware and install on my laptop if all was ok..
[23:00:42] <Triskelios> good luck
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[23:47:40] <CIA-49> SFE jurikm: SFExfce4-panel.spec: bump to 4.8.0, move to SFE from osol xfce
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