March 22, 2011 
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March 22, 2011 [00:00:04] <Mech0z> is the term used in the man[00:00:30] <Mech0z> so it seems to ignore the command after, but only sees vncserver (Which will also launch a display)[00:00:35] <timsf> each time you run vncserver, you get a new server instance.[00:01:35] <Mech0z> yes, but cant I configure it using commands or do I have to change a config file instead[00:02:50] <timsf> Yes, you shuold be able to add Xvnc options to the vncserver command line.[00:04:02] <Mech0z> but as said if I type vncserver -localhost or -nolisten tcp it just lancunes a new server[00:04:17] *** jfisc has quit IRC[00:04:37] <CIA-49> SFE jurikm: SFEgarcon.spec: initial spec[00:06:22] <timsf> What are you expecting?[00:06:49] <Mech0z> it to change the setting instead of just creating servers[00:08:02] <timsf> no, it won't change the setting - it shuold start the server with that setting though[00:08:07] <timsf> so do it once, and get it right.[00:08:14] <Mech0z> ah[00:08:31] *** jfisc has joined #opensolaris[00:09:00] *** fisted has joined #opensolaris[00:09:10] <timsf> vncserver -kill :<display number> is a convenient way to kill servers you've started[00:09:21] <Mech0z> yes yes I have done that alot already ^^[00:09:40] <Mech0z> how do I connect using ssh then :s[00:10:06] <Mech0z> and also now that I have localhost, then I cant connect from outside my lan I recon?[00:10:25] *** fisted has quit IRC[00:10:40] <timsf> ssh -x -2 -L 5901:127.0.0.1:5900 you@remote machine[00:10:59] <timsf> you@remote[1] vncserver &[00:11:20] <Mech0z> eh how do I write that in tightvnc viewer :S[00:11:21] <timsf> you@local[2] vncviewer localhost:1[00:11:59] <timsf> right - you're running the vncserver only accepting connections from localhost[00:12:32] <timsf> the ssh tunnel connects from outside, essentially making the remote vnc client appear as if it's coming from the local machine[00:12:44] <timsf> Seriously - google this stuff, it's fairly well documented out there.[00:13:29] <timsf> [ but yes, when saying -localhost, then you only allow vnc connections originating from the machine the vncserver is running on, hence the ssh tunnel bit ][00:14:12] *** axisys has joined #opensolaris[00:15:33] *** fisted has joined #opensolaris[00:16:32] *** Statts[a] has quit IRC[00:20:37] <Mech0z> timsf I will look at http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/VNC/vnc-over-ssh.html or similar tomorrow, I have only used putty to connect to my server, didnt know I could run vnc through it[00:21:32] <CIA-49> SFE jurikm: SFElibxfce4ui.spec: fix _datadir permissions[00:21:38] *** jfisc has quit IRC[00:22:16] *** jfisc has joined #opensolaris[00:25:06] *** tsoome has quit IRC[00:30:00] *** Mech0z has quit IRC[00:33:00] *** tsoome has joined #opensolaris[00:35:22] *** Mech0z has joined #opensolaris[00:40:58] *** TreFitty has joined #opensolaris[00:53:34] *** CodeWar has joined #opensolaris[00:53:48] *** Mech0z has quit IRC[01:02:26] *** Roksteady has quit IRC[01:02:34] *** Roksteady has joined #opensolaris[01:02:34] *** Roksteady has joined #opensolaris[01:05:00] *** Stric has quit IRC[01:05:10] <deet1> I have a SAS card with a Marvell 6480. The consensus seems to be this is not supported in Osol, although the latest posts are a couple years old now. any chance this might somehow now be supported? any way i might check before installing it?[01:08:15] *** ganbold has joined #opensolaris[01:08:50] *** stevel has quit IRC[01:21:44] <CIA-49> illumos John Sonnenschein <johns at joyent dot com>: 825 Would like SMF critical restart rate to be configurable Reviewed by: danmcd at nexenta dot com Reviewed by: garrett at nexenta dot com Approved by: richlowe at richlowe dot net[01:21:54] <monsted> deet1: fire up the live cd and run the driver utility[01:25:21] *** postwait has joined #opensolaris[01:28:53] *** CodeWar has quit IRC[01:36:16] *** galt has quit IRC[01:40:29] *** wdp has quit IRC[01:53:39] *** wdp has joined #opensolaris[02:00:50] *** galt has joined #opensolaris[02:05:21] *** nollan has quit IRC[02:05:29] *** nollan has joined #opensolaris[02:08:22] *** wdp has quit IRC[02:12:01] *** comay has joined #opensolaris[02:12:27] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o comay[02:14:24] *** sahafeez has quit IRC[02:14:44] *** Stric has joined #opensolaris[02:15:06] *** moved has quit IRC[02:16:19] *** wdp has joined #opensolaris[02:23:56] *** FrankLv has quit IRC[02:30:14] *** FrankLv has joined #opensolaris[02:33:04] *** ingenthr has quit IRC[02:35:54] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[02:38:43] *** deet1 has quit IRC[02:48:22] *** pothos has quit IRC[02:48:46] *** pothos has joined #opensolaris[02:51:46] *** dijenerate has joined #opensolaris[03:00:14] *** Trident has quit IRC[03:00:39] <CIA-49> SFE viskov: SFEgit.spec: update to 1.7.4.1 SFEperl-tk.spec: initial spec[03:14:32] *** cuguardo has quit IRC[03:23:49] *** CodeWar has joined #opensolaris[03:28:18] *** ZeroHour_ has quit IRC[03:36:10] *** CodeWar has left #opensolaris[03:41:06] *** miine_ has joined #opensolaris[03:42:55] *** miine has quit IRC[03:42:55] *** miine_ is now known as miine[03:43:05] *** fisted has quit IRC[03:46:56] *** InTheWings has quit IRC[03:55:38] *** stevel has joined #opensolaris[03:55:38] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stevel[03:56:00] *** ingenthr has joined #opensolaris[03:58:48] *** macros73 has quit IRC[04:08:16] *** niq has quit IRC[04:15:38] *** n2deep has quit IRC[04:16:10] *** Killsudo has quit IRC[04:16:23] *** Killsudo has joined #opensolaris[04:17:47] *** n2deep has joined #opensolaris[04:20:54] *** moved has joined #opensolaris[04:24:51] *** ingenthr has quit IRC[04:33:12] *** hjf has joined #opensolaris[04:33:48] <hjf> I'm getting really low transfer rates on my server,[04:34:21] <hjf> it has two ZFS pools, rpool is IDE and gives me ~8MB/s, the other pool is 4xSATA and gives me 240MB/s[04:34:55] <hjf> any idea what could be wrong? 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has quit IRC[14:51:03] *** FrankLv has quit IRC[14:53:58] *** FrankLv has joined #opensolaris[15:04:36] *** moved has joined #opensolaris[15:05:36] *** javashin has quit IRC[15:14:05] *** mikefut has quit IRC[15:14:50] *** mikefut has joined #opensolaris[15:18:49] *** sancho has joined #opensolaris[15:21:49] <Mech0z> lblume I sort of got the ssh working, but not quite, when I do it through TightVNC (No ssh) I get a "Standard VNC Authentication" where I can only enter a password as its only for a certain user (mine and that resumes my session)[15:22:15] <Mech0z> But if I do SSH I get a normal login window[15:22:22] <lblume> that's the regular vnc password[15:22:33] *** hajma_ has quit IRC[15:22:51] <lblume> I don't ge it? An xdm login?[15:23:05] *** axisys has quit IRC[15:23:07] <Mech0z> 2sec[15:24:04] <Mech0z> http://www.gratisimage.dk/image-C792_4D88B0FE.jpg[15:24:16] <Mech0z> thats without using putty (even though its shown, its not connected)[15:25:17] *** hajma_ has joined #opensolaris[15:27:45] <Mech0z> lblume if I then do it through ssh I just get http://www.gratisimage.dk/image-A618_4D88B1D2.jpg[15:28:02] <Mech0z> the auth box dont show[15:28:27] <Mech0z> eh nwm :s I just clicked it again and now it works :s[15:29:12] *** SH0x has quit IRC[15:29:19] *** SH0x has joined #opensolaris[15:31:03] <lblume> I'm magic![15:31:18] *** postwait has joined #opensolaris[15:31:52] <Mech0z> no it dont work anyway :( it just says "connection established" and nothing futher happens[15:32:05] <Mech0z> think I connected without ssh before :s[15:33:15] *** Vanuatoo has joined #opensolaris[15:33:15] *** dubf has quit IRC[15:33:20] <Mech0z> thats using a -localhost -nolisten tcp vncserver[15:34:35] *** twister004 has joined #opensolaris[15:34:54] <Mech0z> making a server that dont have those parameters is the same, just says its connected, but nothing shows up[15:35:50] <lblume> Have you made the proper tunnel in your ssh configuration?[15:36:05] <Mech0z> well its connected?[15:36:15] <lblume> Doesn't mean much[15:36:16] <Mech0z> but I made it like http://www.gratisimage.dk/graphic/images/2011/March/22/A618_4D88B1D2.jpg[15:36:26] <Mech0z> to the right you can see my tunnel[15:36:33] <lblume> Ok, not good[15:36:38] <lblume> should be localhost:5901[15:36:57] <Mech0z> thats odd :([15:37:18] <lblume> You have to be careful in that in some context, the numbers after : are the port number (for ssh) or the VNC session number (for the viewer)[15:37:32] <lblume> port number = session number + 5900[15:37:37] <Mech0z> ah[15:38:46] <Mech0z> same result[15:39:07] <taemun> vnc?[15:39:09] <lblume> Unlikely. Did you save and restart your ssh session?[15:39:10] <taemun> isn't it ::[15:39:32] <taemun> I think that : in vnc means display, and :: means port[15:39:38] <Mech0z> why would I need to restart the vnc? I only changed something on my pc not my server?[15:39:53] <taemun> oh for the ssh tunnel, maybe ignore me then[15:39:56] <lblume> Oh hey, the vncviewer should connect to localhost:1[15:40:24] <Mech0z> it does that when I type localhost:5901[15:40:32] <lblume> Hehehe, nonono[15:40:38] <lblume> In viweer: localhost:1[15:40:45] <lblume> in ssh: localhost:5901[15:40:53] <lblume> Clear? :-)[15:41:00] <Mech0z> yes, but same result :/[15:41:05] <lblume> show me[15:43:10] <Mech0z> lblume http://www.gratisimage.dk/image-85DE_4D88B574.jpg[15:43:19] <Mech0z> the only thing running is the one in the topleft corner[15:44:32] <Mech0z> is it because I type the port number in the hostname and also in the ssh?[15:46:20] <Mech0z> nah same result[15:47:14] *** moved has quit IRC[15:47:33] <lblume> Oh, is tunneling allowed in your ssh server?[15:47:44] <Mech0z> eh[15:48:02] <lblume> :-D[15:48:09] <Mech0z> I dunno :o[15:48:53] <lblume> grep Forwarding /etc/ssh/sshd_config[15:49:06] <hjf> I'm having a little trouble with some IDE disks and ZFS[15:49:16] <hjf> the strange thing is: while reading (copy, dd) from a file or zvol, I get about 8MB/s[15:49:29] <hjf> r/s w/s kr/s kw/s wait actv wsvc_t asvc_t %w %b device[15:49:36] <hjf> 63.9 2.8 8166.5 87.4 8.0 2.0 120.5 30.0 100 100 c0d0[15:49:39] <Mech0z> lblume XllForwarding yes[15:49:45] <hjf> now, when I dd from the rdsk *disk* device (c0d0), I get this:[15:49:54] <hjf> 264.5 24.6 67711.9 290.7 0.5 1.0 1.6 3.5 11 92 c0d0[15:50:03] <hjf> almost 70MB/s vs 8MB/s, also %w is through the roof, no wonder the system is unresponsive[15:50:19] <hjf> I set zfs_vdev_max_pending to 1 and %w dropped significantly, to 5 and I get 15MB/s now[15:50:45] <hjf> but I don't get anywhere near 60-70MB/s[15:51:03] <lblume> Mech0z: Not the one we're interested about[15:51:08] <lblume> TcpForwarding?[15:51:17] <Mech0z> nothing else is shown with the command you typed[15:51:46] <lblume> Oh really?[15:52:03] <lblume> Strange. I wasn't aware it changed recently. What OS are you using?[15:52:28] <Mech0z> opensolaris the last build[15:52:47] <taemun> b134? b134b? b151a?[15:53:34] <Mech0z> lblume http://pastebin.com/EKfQzFVg[15:53:51] <Mech0z> 2010.03[15:54:32] <taemun> uname -a says?[15:54:40] <taemun> (I'm guessing 134b)[15:55:19] <Mech0z> cant get that command wokring[15:55:34] <Mech0z> myusername -a[15:55:42] <Mech0z> gives command not found[15:55:43] <lblume> uname[15:55:44] <taemun> wha?[15:55:45] <Mech0z> username being Mech0z[15:55:46] <taemun> uname -a[15:55:49] *** staceym has left #opensolaris[15:55:51] <Mech0z> ah nwm[15:55:52] <taemun> literally, uname -a[15:56:01] <Mech0z> snv_134[15:56:11] <Mech0z> no b[15:56:19] <taemun> thats not really 2010.03, but anyway[15:56:32] <lblume> Somebody messed with that sshd_config then[15:56:45] <lblume> I'm pretty sure it had TcpForwarding[15:57:00] <Mech0z> cant I just add a line?[15:57:06] <lblume> Just add[15:57:06] <lblume> AllowTcpForwarding yes[15:57:13] <lblume> then svcadm restart ssh[15:57:28] *** Statts has quit IRC[15:57:41] <taemun> lblume: my box which has been upgraded though a bunch of versions (121, 134, 151a) doesn't have that line[15:58:27] *** moved has joined #opensolaris[15:58:38] *** pothos has quit IRC[15:58:48] *** pothos_ has joined #opensolaris[15:59:09] <lblume> taemun: So it disappeared along the way in the default config?[15:59:34] <taemun> well or it never existed in the original config and never added by the upgrade[15:59:35] <taemun> I'm not sure[15:59:39] *** pothos_ is now known as pothos[15:59:41] <taemun> but I haven't really touched that conf[16:00:27] *** Guest52686 is now known as laen_[16:01:31] <Mech0z> shoudlnt I loose connection on putty when I restart ssh?[16:02:09] <lblume> No[16:02:28] <lblume> taemun: Yes, thats what I meant :-)[16:02:42] *** hajma_ has quit IRC[16:03:01] *** sancho has quit IRC[16:03:05] <Mech0z> well still same result :([16:03:27] *** axisys has joined #opensolaris[16:03:36] *** Shoggoth has quit IRC[16:03:59] <taemun> lblume: fwiw, a fresh b151a install had TCP forwarding functional[16:04:10] <taemun> don't recall if it had that line in the conf, though[16:04:15] <Mech0z> what is b151a?[16:04:23] <lblume> taemun: I checked, it doesn't[16:04:31] <lblume> Didn't try to forward though[16:04:34] <taemun> Mech0z: Solaris 11 Express[16:04:43] <Mech0z> is it worth upgrading?[16:04:43] <taemun> default must be on then[16:04:50] <taemun> Mech0z: depends, really[16:05:15] *** moved has quit IRC[16:06:07] <Mech0z> well this really sucks :([16:06:19] <lblume> check the logs[16:07:23] <Mech0z> for the ssh? and where are htey saved[16:07:28] <lblume> But it should work. I used it on that exact release for month. I remember no particular issue.[16:07:45] <Mech0z> and your sure I typed in the correct stuff?[16:07:57] <lblume> No, I'm not looking over your shoulder :-)[16:08:06] <lblume> But screenshots looks ok AFAICT[16:08:16] <Mech0z> :/[16:08:42] <taemun> vnc on b134 is kinda crippled if you take into account the whole hitting shift or ctrl or caps lock kills the session thing[16:10:04] <Mech0z> I hate that![16:10:16] <Mech0z> didnt know that was for b134 only[16:10:21] <taemun> it's fixed in later versions[16:10:26] <taemun> I believe that OI_148 has that fix[16:10:30] <taemun> b151a definitely does[16:10:33] <lblume> taemun: I don't remember that at all?[16:10:39] <taemun> lblume: oh I do :D[16:10:47] <Mech0z> but I dunno if I need OA or OS[16:10:52] <Mech0z> OI*[16:11:01] <taemun> https://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=14397[16:11:15] <lblume> Oooohhhh, wait wait wait, maybe I skipped this build, actually, because I had other issues. I probably stopped one or two builds before.[16:11:46] <taemun> was a pretty awesome bug[16:11:54] <taemun> you could kinda live with it if you could type quikcly[16:12:30] <lblume> heh, I guess I am a quick typer then :-)[16:12:43] <Mech0z> but would you upgrade to OI or solaris express, I need virtualbox and my zfs shares[16:12:53] <taemun> Mech0z: well OI is free and open[16:12:54] <Mech0z> nothing coorperate so everything needs to be free[16:12:56] <taemun> SX is neither[16:13:04] <Mech0z> isnt opensolaris free?[16:13:13] <taemun> SX is "free" in that you can use it for eval purposes only[16:13:32] <Mech0z> but does that matter?[16:13:32] <Stric> opensolaris is free and dead[16:13:33] <taemun> osol is dead[16:13:36] <taemun> sorry to bring you the news[16:13:54] <Mech0z> SE11 my bad[16:14:04] <Mech0z> S11E or whatever it is :p[16:14:29] <taemun> I've heard it every possible way :P[16:14:45] <taemun> I like "s11x" but thats just me[16:15:01] <Mech0z> but can I run the virtual boxes without issues?[16:15:14] <Mech0z> I just dont want it to say " to use this you need to give us tons of money!"[16:15:15] <taemun> virtualbox is seperate[16:15:18] <taemun> lol[16:15:57] <Stric> depends on how much you care about legal constraints[16:16:00] <Mech0z> well VMs just seems to cost mmoney many places[16:16:17] <taemun> virtualbox is something you install on-top of s11x/OI[16:16:26] <taemun> not sure how the underlying OS would bill you for that[16:17:06] <Mech0z> nah ok[16:18:04] <Mech0z> but is OI atleast as stable as my OS134[16:18:32] <Mech0z> because then that might just be better[16:20:42] *** hajma has joined #opensolaris[16:21:26] <CosmicDJ> hm... suppose I have an unmounted dev (say /dev/md/dsk/d100) and I want to find it where it was last mounted, how could I do that?[16:22:16] <CosmicDJ> I know fsck does this but I need this for a script (dozens of servers, dozens of SVM devices)[16:23:55] <Stric> run fsck on them :)[16:24:17] *** calum is now known as calAFK[16:27:21] *** solar_ has joined #opensolaris[16:31:25] <CosmicDJ> mmhhh... no that's not possible[16:32:44] <Stric> it seems to be at about offset 0x20d4 into the device[16:32:46] <CosmicDJ> hm... scary perl code http://osdir.com/ml/os.solaris.managers.summaries/2002-02/msg00229.html[16:33:54] <Stric> so what I said then[16:36:03] <Stric> dd if=/dev/md/dsk/d110 bs=1 skip=8404 count=512[16:36:15] <Stric> and that'll give you a null terminated string[16:36:59] <CosmicDJ> groovy[16:37:03] *** elgar has joined #opensolaris[16:38:19] *** hajma has quit IRC[16:38:25] *** victori has quit IRC[16:39:18] *** hajma has joined #opensolaris[16:46:24] *** IvanR_ has quit IRC[16:46:34] *** Cyrus has quit IRC[16:46:40] *** ingenthr has quit IRC[16:46:47] <CosmicDJ> hm, seems like there are some vxfs on some svm devs...[16:47:10] <Stric> svm does not imply ufs or anything else[16:47:37] *** calAFK is now known as calumb[16:48:00] <CosmicDJ> fstyp /dev/md/dsk/d156 -> Unknown_fstyp (no matches)[16:48:02] <CosmicDJ> seems so[16:48:51] *** stevel has joined #opensolaris[16:48:52] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stevel[16:49:04] <taemun> is there a pkg command that turns a normal (gui) installation back to a text install (I mean, uninstall all the extra stuff, not just svcadm disable dsm)[16:49:07] <taemun> *gdm[16:50:12] *** taemun has quit IRC[16:50:41] *** taemun has joined #opensolaris[16:50:51] <taemun> sorry, my net was falling-back to the main link[16:51:14] <CosmicDJ> "fail"over? ;)[16:51:48] <taemun> sure :P[16:52:26] <taemun> fail-over to the backup, fail-over to the main link[16:52:30] <taemun> the latter sounds wierd to me[16:53:42] *** TreF1tty has joined #opensolaris[16:54:13] *** Cyrus has joined #opensolaris[16:54:21] *** TreF1tty has quit IRC[16:54:32] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[16:54:39] *** Cyrus is now known as Guest2960[16:55:36] *** moved has joined #opensolaris[16:57:24] *** phretor has joined #opensolaris[16:57:36] *** TreFitty has quit IRC[16:58:02] <phretor> does openindiana installer allow me to create a zfs raid0 pool and then install the OS on it?[16:58:07] *** victori has joined #opensolaris[16:59:10] <miine> phretor: no. but you can convert to raid1 by hand later...[16:59:11] <Stric> probably not, as having the root pool as raid0 is not supported in any *solaris*[16:59:21] *** derchris has quit IRC[16:59:56] <miine> phretor: raid0 doesn't sound as a good idea for rpools anyway :-)[17:00:28] <phretor> ok, I am newbie. I just wanted to test the performances of mysql on openindiana w/ zfs[17:00:41] <phretor> raid0 raid1 won't make much difference in reads afair[17:01:09] <Stric> they would both give about the same read performance[17:01:09] <miine> phretor: take the db to a different pool and/or use an SSD as ZIL ...[17:01:56] *** tsoome1 has joined #opensolaris[17:02:14] <phretor> miine: I don't have another pool. I just have two identical SATA disks. What would be the best option?[17:02:21] *** tsoome1 has quit IRC[17:02:25] *** derchris has joined #opensolaris[17:02:43] <Stric> then mirror them and be happy[17:02:43] <miine> phretor: raid1 - you don't have any other options speed wise other then maxing out RAM...[17:02:53] <phretor> Stric: after installaton?[17:03:05] <miine> phretor: after installation. google[17:03:23] *** niq has joined #opensolaris[17:03:24] *** niq has joined #opensolaris[17:03:26] *** wdp has quit IRC[17:03:31] <phretor> the installer only let me create a solaris2 partition on both of them. Would this be enough?[17:04:15] <miine> phretor: only install on one by partitioning (whole disk won't work for mirroring later). google, there are some steps to do after...[17:04:59] *** merzo has quit IRC[17:05:15] *** tsoome has quit IRC[17:06:24] <phretor> miine: so I should not give indiana a whole-disk-sized partition, right?[17:06:36] <miine> phretor: right[17:06:58] <phretor> damn it, I have to start over. I don't think resizing is supported.[17:07:02] *** dijenerate has joined #opensolaris[17:07:14] <Stric> miine: why not whole disk?[17:07:15] <miine> phretor: just use the the "partition" option. it will use the whole disk anyway which is fine...[17:07:41] <miine> Stric: sorry. I thought phretor meant the "whole disk" option...[17:08:05] <phretor> well, I don't want to waste a 250G partition just for the installation.[17:08:15] <phretor> and, by the way, is swap needed at all?[17:08:25] <Stric> swap will be within the pool[17:08:27] *** fre3f has joined #opensolaris[17:08:33] *** Guest2960 is now known as Cyrus[17:08:41] *** Cyrus has joined #opensolaris[17:08:56] *** kimc has joined #opensolaris[17:08:59] <miine> phretor: you can make the partitions smaller. but you can't use them later anyway...[17:09:06] *** kimc has quit IRC[17:09:06] *** kimc has joined #opensolaris[17:09:29] <lblume> Solaris and its heirs use a single fdisk partition on a given disk then slice it[17:09:32] *** hjf has quit IRC[17:09:38] <miine> phretor: a meant the remaining free space...[17:09:42] *** fre3f is now known as hjf[17:09:55] <phretor> miine: because disks in a mirrored pool must be of the same size I guess[17:10:11] <Stric> the second disk must be >=[17:10:30] <miine> phretor: ask lblubme. maybe slicing does thing I don't know :-)[17:10:49] *** ingenthr has joined #opensolaris[17:11:08] <miine> lblume: is it possible to slice so that an rpool and zil can reside on the same SSD?[17:11:39] <Stric> zil for another pool, or meant for the rpool?[17:11:46] <phretor> so I can do, like, disk1 = (disk1p1 (os) + disk1p2), disk2 = (disk2p1) and create a mirrored pool between disk1p2 and disk2p1?[17:12:08] *** postwait has quit IRC[17:12:17] <lblume> Not using pX[17:12:24] <lblume> Only a single Solaris partition[17:12:43] <lblume> But then you can make severaol slices inside it[17:12:44] <Stric> phretor: and you'll get the same as mirroring both disks straight off, but not having the rpool mirrored[17:13:00] <miine> Stric: for another pool (in my case raidz-1 on 4 disks...)[17:13:43] <Stric> miine: then yes. if meant for rpool, then it makes no sense at all (as without a dedicated zil, it will be inside the pool)[17:14:34] <miine> Stric: thats good news to me. will give my little atom330 server a nice speedup on write :-)[17:14:40] <phretor> Stric: but it's not a good idea to install the os on disks mirrored straight off, right?[17:14:52] <Stric> phretor: why wouldn't it?[17:15:16] <Stric> I think miine has been confusing things here, as I'm quite confused by the explanations and I know how things work[17:15:43] <phretor> Stric: ah, ok, nevermind. So I first run the installer, then reboot and go over the mirrored rpool creation, correct?[17:15:47] *** robinbowes has quit IRC[17:15:50] <Stric> Install on one disk, full size. Mirror after. (the interactive installer can't do it, but the automatic ones can)[17:16:04] <phretor> ok[17:16:15] <phretor> I'll follow this tutorial after reboot http://flux.org.uk/howto/solaris/zfs_tutorial_01[17:16:17] <miine> Stric: ok. so oi can create a raid1 install? I thought only sol11express can do it...[17:16:32] <Stric> miine: No idea, but jumpstart etc can.[17:16:40] <lblume> Hmmm, I forget if you can reserve space for a slice with theinstaller?[17:16:51] <miine> Stric: phretor uses oi...[17:16:55] *** moved has quit IRC[17:17:05] <phretor> is using oi a bad idea?[17:17:18] <Stric> anyway, mirroring later is not a problem, just a few manual steps[17:17:41] <phretor> ok, good. Thanks.[17:17:42] <miine> phretor: oi is a good idea license wise... :-)[17:18:24] <Stric> phretor: http://www.1stbyte.com/2009/08/08/opensolaris-zfs-rpool-mirror/ is a much better one for mirroring the root pool, as it's a bit different than full disk data pools[17:18:27] <lblume> phretor: I say, if you want to use part of the rpool disk for the log, only make sure the rpool slice doesn't use the whole fdisk partition.[17:18:30] <phretor> as long as I can install mysql, python, scipy and numpy, I'm happy[17:29:37] *** fOB has joined #opensolaris[17:34:36] <miine> has anyone informations about the snmp stuff svc sends? how to setup it or write an snmp client receiving those?[17:42:30] *** Spencer_tt has quit IRC[17:45:11] *** tsoome has joined #opensolaris[17:45:13] <miine> nachox: i know. if a google correctly solaris/osol/oi uses net-snmp as its service? I don't know how to setup the snmp service in general...[17:45:19] *** taemun has quit IRC[17:45:44] <tsoome> svcs -a |grep snmp ;)[17:49:05] *** taemun has joined #opensolaris[17:49:53] <nachox> tsoome, if only it were that easy[17:50:19] <tsoome> ?[17:50:35] <nachox> settng up snmp properly[17:51:34] <tsoome> and ye, in s10 its sma, not snmp.[17:51:46] <miine> nachox: exactly. it's too bad svc can't be extended by letting it pipe the service transitions to another process...[17:52:10] <nachox> miine, what?[17:53:38] <miine> nachox: svc can notify service transition (to-online, to-offline etc.) only via snmp or smtp. its build in. but it would be nice if the svc daemon could start another process and pipe the transition to it. so the other process could notify via any desired protocol...[17:54:38] <nachox> ah, yes, that is correct. but then again, snmp is ok to do that, you just need to configure it[17:55:18] <miine> nachox: i think speed/cpu wise it wouldn't make any difference. but it would be much more flexible. I'm currently writing an inter-zone/inter-machine "svc service daemon" to handle some dependencies...[17:55:44] <nachox> services do not change state all that oftern[17:55:48] <nachox> *often[17:55:48] <miine> nachox: I do not "only to configure" it. I have to also write the client handling side :-([17:55:49] *** solar_ has quit IRC[17:56:00] <nachox> ah, right, a minor inconvenience :)[17:56:51] <tsoome> smtp-notify is just one implementation of such notifier.[17:57:44] <miine> nachox: and I'm a bit late doing so :-( . so I did a hack by setting my own notifier service depend on the service I want to watch...[17:59:08] <miine> tsoome: ok. maybe I should check its sources if it will use a pipe or by polling lib-something directly...[17:59:58] *** m2acis has quit IRC[18:00:35] *** hjf has quit IRC[18:00:35] <miine> tsoome: if its using the system library I think it will be easier (faster) for me to try snmp first as my implementation is in python[18:02:39] <tsoome> its bound to fma (obviously).[18:03:40] <miine> tsoome: so its polling or did I miss something?[18:03:51] *** phretor has quit IRC[18:04:00] <tsoome> never checked how its implemented.[18:04:05] *** mikefut has quit IRC[18:04:50] *** hjf has joined #opensolaris[18:05:47] <miine> tsoome: just took a look at the fma lib documentation and I didn't see any callbacks... but anyway, as long as there are no python bindings available now I will try snmp. maybe later I will write a piping daemon for that stuff...[18:06:16] <miine> tsoome: think that will make other people happy too :-)[18:06:45] <tsoome> there is fms module for snmpd already afaik;)[18:06:50] <tsoome> fma*[18:08:43] <miine> tsoome: yeah. so i "only" need a client getting the traps etc. *after* setting up the snmp stuff :-( . thats too much for me at the moment. have only a few days left to implement my inter-zone dependency stuff...[18:09:43] <tsoome> dlmod sunFM /usr/lib/fm/sparcv9/libfmd_snmp.so.1[18:10:31] <tsoome> this is the line i have in the snmpd.conf, and trap2sink trapserver:162[18:11:50] *** hajma has quit IRC[18:12:15] <miine> tsoome: thanks. will try that. question: the snmp client then has to connect to the trapserver (on port 162)?[18:12:50] <tsoome> 162 is normally the port where traps are sent.[18:13:33] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[18:13:34] <tsoome> rest depends how your trap server is set up...[18:14:39] *** dijenerate has joined #opensolaris[18:14:40] *** ingenthr has quit IRC[18:14:47] *** ingenthr has joined #opensolaris[18:19:21] *** GdeLeo has left #opensolaris[18:26:39] *** robinbowes has joined #opensolaris[18:30:53] *** ewdafa has quit IRC[18:33:09] *** sahafeez has joined #opensolaris[18:37:24] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[18:37:29] *** ewdafa has joined #opensolaris[18:37:54] *** dijenerate has joined #opensolaris[18:39:05] *** unc0nn3ct3d has joined #opensolaris[18:41:10] *** unc0nn3ct3d has quit IRC[18:46:32] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[18:50:02] *** dijenerate has joined #opensolaris[18:50:12] *** robinbowes has quit IRC[18:51:03] *** Erwann has quit IRC[19:11:14] *** nonnooo has quit IRC[19:26:21] *** jacotton has joined #opensolaris[19:26:22] *** robinbowes has joined #opensolaris[19:28:14] *** calumb has quit IRC[19:28:48] *** lewellyn has quit IRC[19:34:40] *** lewellyn has joined #opensolaris[19:34:40] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o lewellyn[19:36:48] *** smrt has quit IRC[19:41:50] <CIA-49> illumos Richard Lowe <richlowe at richlowe dot net>: 243 system manual pages should live with the software (fix incremental)[19:44:47] *** hajma has joined #opensolaris[19:48:08] *** held has quit IRC[19:52:08] *** smrt has joined #opensolaris[19:57:21] *** postwait has joined #opensolaris[20:06:04] *** FastJack has quit IRC[20:10:38] *** FastJack has joined #opensolaris[20:19:14] *** Yu\2 has quit IRC[20:19:42] <Hedonista> a power pc G4 isnt big enough to run solaris 11 or opensolaris is it?[20:19:53] <bdha> It's also the wrong architecture.[20:20:02] <Hedonista> okey dokey[20:20:45] <Hedonista> i appreciate the come back bdha[20:21:03] <alanc> the powerpc port was never completed - only sparc & x86/x64 are really there[20:21:13] <Hedonista> thanks alanc[20:21:30] <Hedonista> i guess it'll have to get yellowdog or boobuntu[20:22:35] <Hedonista> i got an old mack boook too its prolly in the same boat[20:23:44] *** SunTzuKDE_ has joined #opensolaris[20:25:58] *** SunTzuKDE has quit IRC[20:29:20] *** deet1 has joined #opensolaris[20:30:02] *** lewellyn has quit IRC[20:32:03] *** held has joined #opensolaris[20:33:44] *** mmu_man has joined #opensolaris[20:35:13] *** IDoNotCare has quit IRC[20:35:13] <monsted> Hedonista: the ones actually called "macbooks" are all intel[20:35:39] <Hedonista> oops my bad[20:35:44] <monsted> the powerpc ones were powerbooks and ibooks[20:36:01] <Hedonista> ok this one is white with an apple on it[20:36:19] <Hedonista> still its pretty old i am assuming[20:36:19] <bdha> It could be an iBook or MacBook.[20:36:38] <monsted> boot it, check "about my mac"[20:36:57] <monsted> er, "about this mac"[20:37:13] <Hedonista> thanks you bdha monsted and everyone who commented[20:37:18] <Hedonista> its my first mac[20:37:51] <monsted> if it's not insanely old, run OSX on it :)[20:38:11] <Hedonista> ok[20:38:29] <Hedonista> between the two i have at least one machine[20:38:37] <Hedonista> i know the tower has a bad hd[20:39:17] <monsted> should be easy enough to fix, although i wouldn't waste time on anything powerpc based[20:40:43] <Hedonista> well it would be a learning experience and then i'd donate it to the boys home[20:42:36] <Hedonista> stupid ubuntu for ppc iso is 710 Mb and i only got 700 mb discs[20:43:38] <deet1> net install?[20:45:48] <Hedonista> not atm[20:49:23] <Hedonista> arch-linux has a port[20:49:34] <Hedonista> and it looks current[20:50:12] <RoyK> Hedonista: what cpu do you have in it_[20:50:13] <RoyK> ?[20:51:04] <RoyK> afaics the last iBook came in 2003....[20:51:19] <Hedonista> i havent gotten that far yet RoyK[20:51:24] <Hedonista> its old yes[20:51:31] <RoyK> does it run MacOS X?[20:51:42] <RoyK> that is - do you have an operating system for it?[20:51:51] <Hedonista> it ran about 3 years ago i think was the last time[20:52:13] <RoyK> so if you boot it up now - does it find anything?[20:52:22] <Hedonista> i have 10.5.6 osx but im looking at arch or debian for ppc[20:52:33] <Hedonista> its still warming up in the hall[20:52:38] <RoyK> k[20:53:10] <RoyK> do you know it's PPC?[20:53:54] <RoyK> Hedonista: under the monitor, in the middle, it should say iBook or MacBook or something[20:53:59] <RoyK> printed below the LCD[20:54:06] <RoyK> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IBook_G3_M6497_J.jpg[20:54:27] * RoyK pats his 17" MBP[20:55:02] <Stric> We have one person at work who got an 17".. he's not using it, it's too big to be used as a laptop.[20:55:33] <Stric> So he's using a 13" one instead.[20:55:56] <RoyK> Stric: too big??? it weights about the same as my G1 15" MBP, battery time is way better and the monitor is of good size - I really don't have an issue with it being "too big"[20:56:17] <Stric> Do you ever move it?[20:56:28] <Hedonista> no monitor the laptop says "ibook G4"[20:56:50] <RoyK> ok[20:56:58] <RoyK> good old PPC one, then :)[20:57:08] <RoyK> 10.5 on that will be rather slow[20:57:09] <Hedonista> oh thanks[20:57:19] *** timsf has joined #opensolaris[20:57:21] <RoyK> 10.4 should work well[20:57:29] <Hedonista> thank you RoyK[20:57:58] <RoyK> just cram as much memory into it as you can do[20:58:06] <RoyK> I guess that'll be 1GB or so[20:58:12] *** psychicist has joined #opensolaris[20:59:09] <RoyK> or perhaps only 512 - if so, try 10.3 or even 10.2 - 10.4 may be too slow on low memory[20:59:25] <RoyK> or just use (insert favourite unix-like OS here)[21:00:28] <RoyK> Hedonista: seems it should take 1GB or a little more http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibook#iBook_G4[21:00:52] <RoyK> depending on model[21:00:58] <Hedonista> well that should work out nicelt as a freebie[21:01:41] <RoyK> with 1GB+ and 10.4, it'll probably make a good, albeit a bit slow, laptop[21:02:59] <Hedonista> good enough for me to give to someone[21:06:16] *** InTheWings has joined #opensolaris[21:10:08] *** Stellar has joined #opensolaris[21:13:01] *** Stellar has quit IRC[21:13:27] *** Stellar has joined #opensolaris[21:20:29] *** axisys_ has joined #opensolaris[21:21:57] *** Spencer_tt has joined #opensolaris[21:21:57] *** Spencer_tt has joined #opensolaris[21:24:42] *** IDoNotKnow has joined #opensolaris[21:24:51] *** Stellar has quit IRC[21:25:24] *** Stellar has joined #opensolaris[21:26:19] *** darrenb has quit IRC[21:27:38] *** postwait has quit IRC[21:28:27] *** lewellyn has joined #opensolaris[21:28:28] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o lewellyn[21:28:35] *** darrenb has joined #opensolaris[21:33:24] *** moved has joined #opensolaris[21:35:07] *** darrenb has quit IRC[21:37:38] *** darrenb has joined #opensolaris[21:39:52] *** Spencer_tt has quit IRC[21:51:13] *** mikefut has joined #opensolaris[21:52:08] *** melbogia has quit IRC[21:52:27] *** melbogia has joined #opensolaris[21:54:22] *** Spencer_tt has joined #opensolaris[22:03:49] *** cuguardo has joined #opensolaris[22:07:34] *** Stellar has quit IRC[22:13:15] <Gman_> For anyone interested in Oracle Solaris, there's a free event on April 14th, 9am PT: http://event.on24.com/r.htm?e=298093&s=1&k=12D718A6822685EE6AD2390FC381A7AE&partnerref=opensolaris[22:19:01] *** AxeZ has joined #opensolaris[22:21:55] *** ianj has joined #opensolaris[22:37:06] *** dajhorn has quit IRC[22:48:02] *** wdp has joined #opensolaris[22:48:02] *** wdp has quit IRC[22:48:02] *** wdp has joined #opensolaris[22:50:34] *** ganbold has quit IRC[22:50:34] *** Hedonista has quit IRC[22:52:31] *** Hedonista has joined #opensolaris[23:01:42] <Mech0z> How long does it take to upgrade to opensolaris aprox?[23:01:47] <Mech0z> Just if I can do it in one hour[23:03:36] *** Spencer_tt has quit IRC[23:04:26] <tsoome> depends on many things[23:05:16] <tsoome> like your computer speed, net etc[23:05:55] <Mech0z> phenom 1 x3 :p[23:06:01] <Mech0z> net is 100mbit[23:09:02] <RoyK> Mech0z: should be quite fast[23:09:11] <Mech0z> ok[23:09:27] <RoyK> depending on the mirrors, though[23:10:28] <Mech0z> Can I do it all over putty? Just wonder if I can connect to it when it boots with openindiana[23:12:00] <RoyK> Mech0z: that shouldn't be a problem unless something bad happens - the only bug for 148 I know is a broadcom NIC issue[23:12:23] <Mech0z> dunno if my crap asrock motherboard has a broadcom[23:12:29] <RoyK> Mech0z: if you have broadcom NICs, the system may fail to boot, requiring manual operations[23:12:37] <RoyK> Mech0z: then check it[23:12:51] <RoyK> Mech0z: easy way is 'ifconfig -a' - check the device names[23:13:19] *** axisys has quit IRC[23:14:02] *** axisys_ has quit IRC[23:14:04] <Mech0z> No names there from what I can see[23:14:13] <Mech0z> nge0: flags=1004843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST,DHCP,IPv4> mtu 1500 index 2[23:14:13] <Mech0z> inet 192.168.0.189 netmask ffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255[23:15:31] <RoyK> don't think nge is a broadcom[23:15:36] *** hsp has quit IRC[23:15:49] <RoyK> bge is the one with which I had problems[23:16:15] <Mech0z> NVIDIA® GeForce 8200 Chipset thats my chipset, dunno http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=K10N78[23:16:24] *** Spencer_tt has joined #opensolaris[23:16:27] <Mech0z> but I pray it works wonders^^[23:16:45] <Mech0z> http://wiki.openindiana.org:8080/display/oi/Installing+or+Upgrading I just need to do the:[23:16:47] <Mech0z> You can upgrade an existing (x86) OpenSolaris system to OpenIndiana.[23:16:47] <Mech0z> From the command line:[23:17:06] <RoyK> sure, I've done it[23:17:09] <RoyK> a few times[23:17:22] <RoyK> the only problem I've seen, was the bge issue[23:17:23] *** Spencer_tt1 has joined #opensolaris[23:18:08] *** Spencer_tt has left #opensolaris[23:18:29] <Mech0z> but omg I look forward to my vnc not crashing from holding shift etc[23:19:13] *** CosmicDJ has quit IRC[23:21:57] <Mech0z> when I have done pkg image-update -v do I just need to reboot?[23:22:09] <RoyK> Mech0z: yes[23:22:21] <RoyK> Mech0z: it'll reboot into a new BR[23:22:26] <RoyK> BE, even[23:22:27] <Mech0z> super[23:22:30] <RoyK> boot environment[23:22:39] <Mech0z> just need to install virtualbox and get my old images working then[23:22:49] <RoyK> so you can rollback so long as you don't upgrade the pool/zfs[23:22:51] <Mech0z> but I guess they will be as easy to mount[23:23:02] <Mech0z> dont see any reason to upgrade my pool?[23:23:12] <RoyK> there may be several[23:23:36] <RoyK> when you see the new version works, just discard the old BEs and upgrade the pool[23:23:41] <Mech0z> live raid expand? :o[23:24:04] <RoyK> there's not block pointer rewrite in yet[23:24:14] <RoyK> no idea when that'll arrive[23:24:21] <RoyK> but even old zfs have autoexpand[23:24:27] <RoyK> and you can add new VDEVs[23:24:42] <RoyK> but then, that's no news - just old stuff[23:25:20] <monsted> a lot of the upgrades seem to deal with performance, too[23:25:37] <RoyK> just test well before you upgrade[23:25:54] <RoyK> after you upgrade the pool, there's no going back without destroying it[23:26:19] <RoyK> precaution is a good word :P[23:26:24] * RoyK heads off to bed[23:27:11] <Mech0z> i dont have space for backup :p[23:27:28] <RoyK> well, backup's for cowards anyway[23:27:39] <Mech0z> :P[23:27:53] <Mech0z> But I want an ability to add discs to my raid-z :p[23:28:21] <RoyK> you can add VDEVs[23:28:29] <RoyK> new raidz drivesets[23:28:37] <RoyK> but you can't change a raidz VDEV[23:28:47] <Mech0z> no so I just add stuff to the pool[23:28:58] <Mech0z> but then I need many discs to keep my parity :p[23:29:24] <RoyK> or you replace the disks you have with larger ones[23:29:29] *** bobbyz_ has quit IRC[23:29:40] <Mech0z> RoyK yes but replacing 5 discs at a time is expensive for me :)[23:29:42] <RoyK> also keep in mind that adding new VDEVs won't re-distribute the data[23:30:08] <RoyK> Mech0z: heh - tell me about it - I just replaced 21 2TB drives with 3TB ones - it took about a month[23:30:20] <RoyK> three VDEVs, so I could replace three at a time[23:30:32] <Mech0z> RoyK But Iam a student :p[23:30:36] <Mech0z> I cant afford that much :p[23:30:56] <monsted> it's ok, RoyK will send you the 2 TB drives he replaced[23:31:00] <RoyK> well - gotta go now - bed's waiting - bbl[23:31:44] *** moved has quit IRC[23:31:47] <Mech0z> Sleep tight[23:31:56] <Hedonista> goodnight RoyK[23:32:17] *** elgar has quit IRC[23:37:35] *** CosmicDJ has joined #opensolaris[23:42:33] *** galt has quit IRC[23:43:45] *** moved has joined #opensolaris[23:49:35] <Mech0z> yay now IO is installed^^[23:54:17] *** AxeZ has quit IRC[23:58:54] *** phretor has joined #opensolaris[23:59:25] <phretor> is there any option of installing mysql with partitioning option enable w/o having to compile it?