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[00:17:07] <timsf> CodeWar: S11 doesn't use jumpstart
[00:17:39] <CodeWar> timsf, ok the above approach is what blogs are calling jumpstart :)
[00:17:46] <CodeWar> whats the way to do network installation then
[00:18:02] <timsf> Google for AI (Auto Installer)
[00:18:32] <CodeWar> yep have those docs in front reading through it
[00:18:40] <timsf> cool
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[00:36:02] <jt__> hi, how would I know what are are peripheral devices connected to machine w/out access to it physically, I can peek at /etc/path_to_inst but some of alias there don't have manpage, e.g for NIC I can man the "ce","hme"
[00:37:01] <CodeWar> I m planning to use a virtual box Solaris 11 installation as the AI server .. any reason to believe that wont work?
[00:39:39] <timsf> I've done it before - works fine.
[00:40:29] <timsf> jt__ prtconf -D
[00:41:50] <jt__> timsf: hmmn..thanks
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[00:46:01] <CIA-49> SFE tom68: SFEpostfix.spec: add missing ext-sources/README-Postfix-SASL-RedHat.txt
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[01:21:09] <CIA-49> SFE tom68: SFEnetatalk.spec: fix perms. /reqrite %files section, remove static libs, add -root package, change (Build)Requires to %{pnm_buildrequires_SUNWgnu_dbm}
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[01:40:41] <CodeWar> installing Solaris 11 over network .. this is __way__ more complicated than it should be . Install AI server .. setup DHCP ... why cant I just do net boot  server:/nfs/path
[01:41:03] <CodeWar> probably pull the disk out and install separately let me check with my vendor ... pheww
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[01:44:59] <macros73> any stable HFS+ driver for solaris?  I just need read access.
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[05:22:28] <macros73> Any insight why with an OSX client, Finder shows abysmal timeouts and overall performance with a OSol NFS server, but the same client using CLI tools works just fine?  I can't drag and drop 16 files from the OSX client to the mounted share, but if I 'cp' from a terminal to the same share, all is well.
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[05:24:45] <macros73> Looks like I can make it angry from the CLI, too.  Tried copying a 3.4GB file over via CLI.  Near the end, started getting lockd not responding, lockd alive again errors.
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[05:39:11] <macros73> smb seems to work bettert
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[06:37:45] <CodeWar> I m on a T1000 (bought over the wekened) and am trying to go from Solaris 10 11/06  to Solaris 11 .. AI simply wont work here for me is there another way to do the upgrade
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[07:11:14] <galt> not really, since jumpstart died with the real installer
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[07:12:07] <richlowe> doesn't T1000 have the LOM that'll do the whole "pretend a network-accessible ISO is a drive" thing?
[07:13:41] <galt> maybe, not my brand of evil, I have all pre-LOM machines
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[07:19:25] <afz0r> Hi there, just a quick question here. On linux (slack) I normally use ` last -i [user] ` to find out a user's ip address. On opensolaris, last doesn't have this option, is there a way to accomplish this alternatively?
[07:20:38] <afz0r> tried 'who', but it doesn't show ip addresses, plus it would only work for currently logged in users
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[07:25:23] <richlowe> looks like wtmpx contains host names, if they can be determined.
[07:27:05] <richlowe> so I'm not immediately sure if or where the IP is available, post-logout
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[07:34:40] <CodeWar> how does one list all disks
[07:34:51] <CodeWar> fdisk -l equivalent
[07:35:23] <afz0r> richlowe, I see. In my case I don't think hostnames have been determined so far, thanks!
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[08:24:52] <CIA-49> illumos Richard Lowe <richlowe at richlowe dot net>: 562 FMA support for SMF can't load libfmevent Reviewed by: danmcd at nexenta dot com Reviewed by: garrett at nexenta dot com Approved by: garrett at nexenta dot com
[08:24:59] <CIA-49> illumos Richard Lowe <richlowe at richlowe dot net>: 831 sh(1) sources itself Reviewed by: danmcd at nexenta dot com Reviewed by: garrett at nexenta dot com Approved by: garrett at nexenta dot com
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[18:15:09] <CosmicDJ> don't get me wrong, but is this #chan dead?
[18:16:41] <lblume> Because you come after hours.
[18:17:35] <Stric> only 10h since last message, and that was a bot.. :P
[18:17:58] <CosmicDJ> hm... yeah, I joined 10h ago
[18:19:04] <lblume> Sheesh, no discrimnation please, bots are equal irc users :-P
[18:20:08] <CosmicDJ> so the cool kids trying sol11 express or open indiana still hang out here?
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[18:31:00] <alanc> the folks trying openindiana mostly hang out in #openindiana
[18:31:50] <alanc> the traffic levels on this channel really have dropped, but there are still conversations from time to time - people still using opensolaris or who use s11x and don't want to deal with #solaris
[18:32:47] <CosmicDJ> what's wrong with #solaris?
[18:33:34] <lblume> CosmicDJ: alanc is not there.
[18:33:44] <CosmicDJ> good point ;)
[18:34:31] <lblume> :-)
[18:34:32] <alanc> just hear a lot of complaints about how harsh the people there are - the few times I dropped in I found it wasn't a place I wanted to hang around and so I left
[18:34:49] <alanc> been a few years since I tried last though
[18:35:06] <lblume> alanc: It's improved somewhat, I believe.
[18:35:58] <alanc> I could believe that - #opensolaris has had some periods of unfriendliness and then improved since then
[18:36:50] <monsted> it tends to happen as a channel grows older and the regulars see the same stupid questions over and over for years
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[18:38:41] <lblume> Well, I'm not saying the people who come in and ask ¨LOL guyz can u help me delete zis file¨ are exactly welcome
[18:39:08] <nachox> if you see the same stupid questions over and over again, then you can just ignore them, there is no need to be rude
[18:40:01] <lblume> But AFAICT, those who get flak are only the guys who both ask stupid questions without spending one second searching AND then get all huffy and self righteous and demand their questions answered
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[18:40:44] <lblume> nachox: Honestly, it's not a need, but sometimes it's just fun.
[18:40:59] <alanc> we do say things like "see /topic" here for the FAQs, but not so much "Didn't you even look at the damned /topic shit-for-brains?"  - very big difference in attitude there
[18:41:28] <nachox> agreed
[18:41:32] <monsted> RTFM!!!1!!oneone
[18:41:46] <lblume> Hmmm, really, I think the *first* answers are mostly of the first kind now.
[18:42:05] <lblume> But yes, people who don't get the hint later get the second kind :-)
[18:42:24] <monsted> and sometimes they get a fierce mocking
[18:42:56] <lblume> Those I remember deserved it IMO.
[18:43:21] <lblume> I don't remember somebody asking politely getting mocked.
[18:43:39] <lblume> I do remember helping people who could have RTFM but did ask nicely.
[18:44:25] <monsted> i think it's mostly a good thing to help people help themselves instead of just spoon feeding them
[18:45:20] <monsted> the places i hang around in generally have a decent balance, helping to keep the regulars sane and not drive the noobs away
[18:45:41] <lblume> That's good.
[18:46:06] <lblume> I do like polite noobs, I helps to keep a realist viewpoint on things.
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[22:14:54] <CIA-49> SFE jurikm: SFElibxfcegui4.spec: bump to 4.8.0, move to SFE from osol xfce
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[22:29:26] <CIA-49> SFE jurikm: SFElibxfce4ui.spec: initial spec
[22:35:08] <laen_> I'm playing with ZFS's vscan service and a clamav/c_icap server and I'm having problems getting it working. I _think_ the issue is that I need to configure the ICAP URI.  Anyone know what property that is in vscanadm?
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[22:39:29] <CIA-49> SFE jurikm: SFElibxfcegui4.spec: l10n package
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[23:03:03] <Mech0z> Anyone know how to make Xvnc not disconnect me but use the same session for all VNC connects?
[23:03:15] <Mech0z> so that closing the VNC client does not kill the current session?
[23:08:29] <lblume> you mean the regular vncserver?
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[23:09:50] <Mech0z> I think so
[23:09:59] <Mech0z> under service its called xvnc
[23:11:33] <Mech0z> trying to set AlwaysShared to 1 but it wont accept the command
[23:11:47] <macros73> stupid question, how do I bring up a newly intalled NIC in osol?
[23:12:37] <timsf> Mech0z: it's documented in the Xvnc man page
[23:12:49] <Mech0z> timsf yes but apparently I cant understand it
[23:13:01] <timsf> see the section "USAGE WITH INETD" (their caps, not mine :-)
[23:13:19] <Mech0z> the funktion is -AlwaysShared=1
[23:13:36] <Mech0z> but it just returns jiberish, also tried AlwaysShared and AlwaysShared=1
[23:13:40] <timsf> no, you want 'wait' mode
[23:13:41] <Mech0z> nothign gives proper respons
[23:13:45] <Mech0z> huh
[23:13:51] <Mech0z> well no commands work
[23:14:00] <Mech0z> I cant understand how it wants the commands :s
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[23:14:31] <timsf> svccfg -s xvnc-inetd setprop inetd/wait = true
[23:15:01] <macros73> ah, got it.  ifconfig x plumb, ifconfig x dhcp start
[23:16:57] <macros73> hrm.  up but can't sssh in through the new nic, is there a firewall up by default?
[23:16:59] <Mech0z> timsf having that still closes my opened VirtualBox
[23:17:19] <Mech0z> VirtualBox itself is still open, but the specific VirtualBox IAm running with GUI is closed
[23:17:22] <Mech0z> if I close VNC
[23:17:22] <timsf> you refreshed/restarted the service?
[23:17:28] <Mech0z> eh nope
[23:18:02] <Mech0z> some fo them of them does that by themself, guess I hoped
[23:18:07] <CIA-49> SFE jurikm: SFElibexo.spec: bump to 0.6.0, move to SFE from osol xfce
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[23:26:02] <Mech0z> timsf shouldnt svcadm restart svc:/application/x11/xvnc-inetd and svcadm restart svc:/system/xvm/vnc-config be enough to restart them?
[23:26:13] <Mech0z> typing that didnt give error but my vnc client was not booted
[23:33:15] <timsf> yes, that will do it,
[23:33:27] <Mech0z> well it still dont save session
[23:33:30] <timsf> but remember this is an inetd service
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[23:33:56] <timsf> so you need to start a session to connect to the server
[23:34:25] <timsf> [ perhaps I'm misunderstanding what you're after: I think you're looking for a persistent Xsession run over vnc? ]
[23:35:07] <Mech0z> I want that if I connect with VNC and do something for example launch an app and then close my VNC connection then that app keeps running
[23:35:14] <Mech0z> in this case a VirtualBox with GUI
[23:36:06] <lblume> I think the most common way to do it is to run vncserver manually for a user. It's also generally more secure
[23:36:11] <Mech0z> But guess I just need to use headless and then install vnc servers on the Vboxes
[23:36:37] <Mech0z> lblume I dont understand how that deferes from what Iam doing
[23:37:24] <lblume> the way it's spawned is different
[23:40:20] <Mech0z> should I then download another vnc clint?
[23:41:00] <lblume> From the man, if I understand correctly, using SMF to run Xvnc the way you like would result in the first connection on the service tostart a session, then all subsequent connections use that same session. A single session / service. I believe runningt vncserver manually is more natural.
[23:42:08] <Mech0z> But you say manually and I am completely lost what you mean by that, do you mean instead of a service?
[23:42:26] <lblume> Yes. Just run vncserver
[23:43:52] <lblume> On S10, I run /etc/iiim/xsession from ~/.vnc/xstartup. Opens a regular gnome desktop. I run vnc there.
[23:44:17] <timsf> though you could run vncserver itself from an SMF service
[23:44:25] <timsf> xvnc-inetd is special because it goes through inetd
[23:44:46] <timsf> which as lblume correctly points out, is less secure than, say a ssh-tunneled vncserver instance.
[23:44:56] <timsf> (but possibly more convenient)
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[23:45:20] <Mech0z> omg it works, just doing vncserver, then in vnc I connect to myip:2
[23:45:27] <Mech0z> amazing :)
[23:45:35] <lblume> The manual is not terribly clear on how it works practically when there are several clients connecting on the same service.
[23:45:55] <Mech0z> well I will just use this, might read on inetd
[23:45:59] <timsf> that's wait vs. nowait
[23:46:10] <lblume> Mech0z: Evil. Use -localhost -nolisten tcp, then tunnel through X
[23:46:28] * timsf nods
[23:46:38] <timsf> s/X/ssh/
[23:46:39] <Mech0z> eh
[23:46:45] <lblume> Tunnel through *ssh*
[23:46:54] <lblume> \Yeah. Need sleep.
[23:46:58] <timsf> :-)
[23:47:18] <Mech0z> can you use connect using ssh through for example tightvnc?
[23:47:23] <lblume> Ask me tomorrow/ My vnc session will stay awake while I sl;eep, so I'll check it out ;-)
[23:47:51] <lblume> tightvnc, tigervnc, realvnc, whatevervnc.
[23:48:03] <lblume> g'night all
[23:48:06] <Mech0z> nn
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[23:56:18] <Mech0z> timsf Aint I supposed to write vncserver -nolisten ? Because that just lanches a new window
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[23:59:39] <macros73> Riddle me this:  copy from a raidz1 pool to /dev/null hits 170M/s according to iostat.  Copying across an e1000g via smb to /dev/null on another box, 50M/s.  why?
[23:59:43] <timsf> launches a new window?
[23:59:57] <Mech0z> display*

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