March 19, 2011 
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March 19, 2011 [00:02:04] *** moved has quit IRC[00:04:20] *** fisted has quit IRC[00:12:49] *** richlowe` has joined #opensolaris[00:13:07] *** richlowe` is now known as richlowe_[00:13:14] *** richlowe has quit IRC[00:13:17] *** richlowe_ is now known as richlowe[00:20:56] *** Statts[a] has quit IRC[00:21:25] *** bobbyz_ has joined #opensolaris[00:28:24] <Stric> phretor: if you want ecc then you probably want to go amd, as just about all of them support ecc and in the intel case you need to go xeon to get ecc[00:29:29] <phretor> Stric: I found a few mobo with AMD E350, but looks like they don't support ECC[00:38:19] <RoyK> Stric: does athlons support ECC?[00:38:25] <RoyK> s/does/do/[00:38:54] <tomww> the regular athlon do ecc for RAM[00:40:16] *** jimmy1980 has joined #opensolaris[00:40:40] <macros73> phretor: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0049YUNUU[00:41:28] <phretor> macros73: that's mATX I guess[00:41:31] *** phretor has left #opensolaris[00:45:12] <Stric> RoyK: if you're talking about the ancient real "Athlon", then no.. but you won't be able to buy anything like that.. but afaik, all athlon64+ does. the mobo might have it disabled though, so that's where you might bump into problems.. but such information is easily found[00:45:42] <macros73> http://www.lippertembedded.com/en/lipperts-thunderbird-e3100.html[00:45:44] <macros73> crap, he left[00:46:26] *** alanc has quit IRC[00:48:12] <RoyK> Stric: thanks - I was under the impression that only server-grade processors supported ECC, but I guess that's an intel thing[00:49:23] <macros73> I think I read that Atom will get an ECC option next year[00:49:40] * RoyK finds that rather unlikely[00:49:42] <Stric> RoyK: yeah, consumer intel has no ecc.. never had afaik[00:49:46] <macros73> Intel's trying to stay competitive in the "microserver" category[00:50:12] <RoyK> Stric: before the memory controller was integrated into the cpu, they did...[00:50:22] <macros73> http://www.sys-con.com/node/1758883[00:50:53] <Stric> RoyK: um. never seen one.. (still talking non-xeons)[00:51:19] <RoyK> Stric: before the memory controller was integrated into the cpu, the cpu didn't know much about ECC[00:52:26] <RoyK> macros73: I guess those will be called low-powered xeons, then, with the price quite higher than normal atoms....[00:52:48] <Stric> still don't remember seeing any consumer intel mobos with ecc[00:52:59] <RoyK> cl sj[00:53:00] <RoyK> løs[00:53:02] <RoyK> ops[00:53:11] <macros73> http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20110317PR200.html[00:53:12] <RoyK> consumer mobos don't use ecc[00:53:24] <macros73> Higher than normal atoms, but should be lower than the Xeon line[00:53:39] <Stric> RoyK: and since we've been talking about consumer mobos all along..[00:53:44] <macros73> of course, moot point until sometime 2012. :[00:53:52] *** ewdafa has quit IRC[00:54:13] *** alanc has joined #opensolaris[00:54:13] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o alanc[00:54:15] <RoyK> ECC should have been the standard since 10+ years ago[00:54:19] <macros73> Speaking of ECC, everything for my new ZFS home server arrived /except/ the RAM, which was delayed until Monday. :([00:55:26] <RoyK> for a home server, I wouldn't care much about ECC, but I guess that may be just me[00:55:53] <macros73> Not really paying a premium for it, would rather have it than not have it.[00:55:53] <Stric> why not.. it's a few percent more expensive, but can save your ass[00:58:47] <RoyK> Stric: heh - a few percent? a server mobo and ecc ram and perhaps a xeon instead of a c2d is 50%+ more[00:59:11] <macros73> RoyK: That's why you buy an AMD CPU and mb[00:59:30] <RoyK> sure, but still a server mobo and ecc ram[00:59:31] *** wdp has quit IRC[00:59:46] <macros73> no, it's not a server mobo. It's a mATX mobo, ~$100. :D[01:00:01] <macros73> At least, this one is, and does have ECC support.[01:00:32] <RoyK> nice[01:01:02] <macros73> also has onboard video (low-end AMD, all I need) and a PCIe slot for the SAS card I got.[01:02:40] <macros73> depending on whether you believe Google's studies, memory errors are more common than thought.[01:02:50] <macros73> though I cannot confirm they have ever troubled me[01:03:19] <macros73> but, if I am going to go through the trouble of using ZFS to ensure file integrity for my home file server, why not spend a few percent more for ECC?[01:03:32] <RoyK> I know they are common, somehow, we have a supermicro system which has shown pretty much errors in its mcelog[01:04:03] <RoyK> macros73: what's the diff in the price for that system's memory, ecc or not?[01:04:36] <Stric> RoyK: I bought a $50 mobo, a sempron and ecc ram..[01:04:49] <Stric> for ddr2 ram, it's a few percent diff[01:04:57] <RoyK> k[01:05:23] <Stric> for intel, you need to go heavy duty - as said before.[01:05:39] <RoyK> i know...[01:06:04] <macros73> looks like I paid $20 more for ECC[01:06:19] <RoyK> $20>?[01:06:56] <macros73> 8GB (2x4G) DDR3 1333Mhz[01:07:32] <Stric> RoyK: just have a look at your local price comparison web thingie[01:07:32] <RoyK> heh - then it's well worth it :)[01:08:16] <RoyK> Stric: sometimes I find it more valuable to ask people than to hunt around for prices when it's not my own concern[01:08:45] <Stric> yeah, but you seem to have not trusted us what we told you[01:08:57] <RoyK> I do[01:10:31] *** stevel has quit IRC[01:11:03] * RoyK was a little curious about autoexpand when replacing the final 2TB drives with 3TB ones and suddenly zfs list dpool showed a jump of 5TB storage ..... not 15TB - seems it took 5 minutes for the pool to sort out the new drives[01:11:54] * Stric heads to bed[01:19:17] *** herzen has quit IRC[01:32:14] *** bobbyz_ has quit IRC[01:34:45] *** niq has quit IRC[01:44:50] *** niq has joined 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NorrinRadd has quit IRC[14:52:07] <CIA-49> SFE tom68: SFEnginx.spec: fix packaging ownergroup smf manifest, permissions for /lib/..., method, manifest[14:52:46] <CIA-49> SFE tom68: change BuildRequires to %{pnm_buildrequires_SUNWgnu_dbm}[14:54:42] <CIA-49> SFE tom68: move to /usr/gnu, avoid conflicts with sunstudio12u1[14:55:25] <CIA-49> SFE tom68: SFEenet.spec: fix packaging, wildcard to only catch lib*.so* and not /usr/lib/pkgconfig/[14:56:30] <CIA-49> SFE tom68: SFEhowl.spec: change BuildRequires to %{pnm_buildrequires_SUNWgnu_dbm}, fix permissions groupowner %{_datadir}[14:57:30] <CIA-49> SFE tom68: SFEnetpbm.spec: change BuildRequires to %{pnm_buildrequires_SUNWwget}, change Requires to %{pnm_requires_SUNWghostscript}[14:58:44] <CIA-49> SFE tom68: SFEpython26-genshi.spec: change BuildRequires to %{pnm_buildrequires_SUNWlibpigment_python26_devel}[14:59:35] <CIA-49> SFE tom68: SFEjam.spec: simplify install bin.solaris*/ (failed on amd64)[15:00:23] <CIA-49> SFE tom68: 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any more milax releases based on solaris 11 express in the future[15:28:19] <tomww> but, looks more polite, or not?[15:28:28] <Hedonista> hey tomww its the weekend nobody is looking[15:28:47] <tomww> some are[15:28:53] <Hedonista> uh huh[15:28:59] <tomww> but there have been timer where much more crows have been hanging around here[15:29:06] <tomww> uh sorry, crowds.[15:29:15] <tomww> I beg your pardon, dear crows.[15:29:16] <Hedonista> true[15:30:10] *** Statts[a] has quit IRC[15:30:38] <Hedonista> we used to have around 300 ppl here at time[15:31:28] <jurikm> Hedonista: was it better or worse? :-)[15:31:59] <Hedonista> it didnt seem to matter most of the population doesnt speak[15:36:40] <Hedonista> excuse me i need to go eat breakfast[15:37:26] <tomww> breakfast will eventually start to radiate some day[15:54:24] <CIA-49> SFE tom68: include/packagenames.define.allbuilds.inc: handle more cases SUNWwgetu/SUNWwgetr/SUNWwget wget web/wget (>=133)[15:59:33] *** tty234 has quit 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I love ZFS.[22:35:51] *** Hedonista has quit IRC[22:37:02] *** Hedonista has joined #opensolaris[22:39:28] *** galt has joined #opensolaris[22:39:57] *** nikolam has quit IRC[22:42:21] <CIA-49> SFE jurikm: SFEsauerbraten.spec: bump to fixed release[22:44:33] *** Yu\2 has quit IRC[22:45:20] *** reddi has joined #opensolaris[22:47:02] *** moepmoep has quit IRC[22:50:23] *** Stellar|2 has joined #opensolaris[22:53:02] *** stevel has quit IRC[22:53:17] *** stevel has joined #opensolaris[22:53:17] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stevel[22:53:36] *** Stellar has quit IRC[23:02:21] <lblume> guys, how is it possible to get a Permission denied when trying to rm a file as root? On a perfectly read/write FS which is far from being full?[23:02:41] <tsoome> acl?[23:03:06] <lblume> they can stop root?[23:03:09] *** Spencer_tt has joined #opensolaris[23:03:10] *** Spencer_tt has joined #opensolaris[23:03:17] <tsoome> why not?[23:03:46] <tomww> /usr/bin/ls -V ... does this how acls hindering that rm?[23:04:54] <Stric> lblume: and it's not over nfs/cifs, I hope?[23:05:06] <lblume> No, local rpool[23:05:11] <lblume> nothing facny[23:05:30] <lblume> but it is shared via cifs, so I did have to mess with the ACLs since they're crappy by default[23:05:56] <tomww> it the file opened and locked in a special way? seen that with samba locking a file by a client[23:06:39] <lblume> fuser reports nothing, and AFAICT, it was not opened remotely[23:07:10] <lblume> It's an ISO image, so I did use lofiadm to mount it locally, but I then unmounted it and did lofiadm -d, no problem[23:08:01] <lblume> the file itself has no acl, and I can create and remove files in the same directory[23:09:11] *** galt has quit IRC[23:09:35] <tomww> hm. echo "\c" > filename[23:10:00] <tomww> does this release the diskspace after some time (zfs releases only after a while)[23:10:47] <lblume> it looks like it, yes[23:11:56] <lblume> I can't rename it either[23:13:33] <lblume> This is weird.[23:16:50] <lblume> I can reproduce it[23:17:47] <lblume> create a new isom mount it using lofiadm, then umount and remove the loopback, and it can't be deleted anymore[23:18:18] <lblume> Seems the loopback is somehow slightly broken in S11X[23:18:25] <tsoome> gratz, you have found the bug:)[23:19:04] <lblume> It qs not hard :-P You knew about it and you tried to hide the truth? ;-)[23:19:09] <lblume> it was[23:19:22] <tsoome> if its lofi, then lofiadm -a and lofiadm -d should be enough?[23:19:50] <lblume> IT should, and always has been for me. I do that often[23:20:57] <tsoome> no i meant it should be enough to trigger the lock[23:21:09] <tsoome> or is it the mount what does?[23:21:11] *** Mech0z has quit IRC[23:21:17] <lblume> aaahhhh[23:21:24] <lblume> good point, let me try[23:21:52] *** CodeWar has joined #opensolaris[23:22:06] <lblume> Right[23:22:12] <lblume> that's enough to trigger it[23:22:26] *** galt has joined #opensolaris[23:22:29] <tsoome> so lofi will set lock on iso, but wont release it[23:22:47] <lblume> on anything actually.[23:22:49] <tomww> was never designt to actualy use those lofi devices[23:22:50] <lblume> But yes[23:23:04] <tomww> only for looking pretty[23:23:32] <lblume> what do you mean? Not designed to use what?[23:23:32] <tsoome> lol[23:23:50] <tsoome> we are using lofi all the time[23:24:02] <tomww> lblume: only I'm kidding[23:24:05] <tsoome> with every luupgrade:D[23:24:10] <lblume> Yes, it's what the man says it's for[23:24:54] <lblume> tomww: Don't: I've watched X-Files reruns and had a drink. Now you'll convince me easily there is a conspiracy ;-)[23:25:09] <tsoome> lol[23:25:28] <tomww> :)[23:25:38] <lblume> Must be a brand-new bug because yep, like you say guys, it seems difficult to miss it.[23:25:56] <lblume> If alanc was around, I'd try to blame it on him.[23:26:44] <lblume> Must be because I changed the font size. Weird things always happen when I touch fonts.[23:26:49] <tsoome> tbh, its hard to say, because usually we are not removing iso just after luupgrade, because there may still be something wrong with new BE and the iso might be needed again[23:27:10] <tsoome> so, it will be there after reboot and that will clear locks[23:27:18] <CodeWar> got my T1000 delivered yesterday ...trying to get SER MGMT working ...[23:27:29] <tsoome> trying?[23:27:34] <CodeWar> vendor provided RJ 45 -> serial converter I m hoping Serial to USB should do the trick[23:27:44] <tsoome> they usually do[23:27:55] <monsted> it's usually a piece of cake[23:28:04] <lblume> Well, pretty sure that you can give it a quick look and have it fixed if nobody noticed :-) lofiadm -a file; lofiadm -d file; rm file[23:28:13] <tsoome> i have trendnet TU-S9 for that reason[23:28:18] <monsted> as long as it's not one of the retarded DB25 consoles a lot of the older gear had[23:28:59] <lblume> Luckily, I just had a very similar issue on Windows XP, and I know the fix: reboot.[23:29:30] <tsoome> serial management ports are using RJ-45 (cisco)[23:29:35] <CodeWar> tsoome, so TU S9 has helped you manage these boxes ... thanks[23:29:48] <CodeWar> thats what I m trying to pick up here.. throw me terms I ll look them up and do the resaerch :)[23:29:48] <monsted> we have a truckload of Avocent terminal servers for our cisco and sun gear - works brilliantly[23:31:02] <CodeWar> ok I feel like an idiot asking this but :) my plan is RJ-45 -> serial (using vendor provided ocnverter) and serial -> USB -> laptop/desktop using TU S9 like products[23:31:04] <CodeWar> that work?[23:31:14] <tsoome> we are using serial only for first time setup, rest of the lifetime they do sit in network[23:31:15] <CodeWar> hopefully I can use this to bootstrap network management[23:31:17] <monsted> yes, that works[23:31:37] <CodeWar> perfect .. off to fries then :)[23:31:41] <CodeWar> frys[23:31:55] *** Dagobert has quit IRC[23:32:47] <monsted> we keep the serial consoles for emergencies, but usually just access stuff over the network[23:33:43] <CodeWar> yes I read the T1000 ALOM docs yesterday .. this is my frist time as you can see :) hopefully I can wire up DHCP after the first serial mgmt[23:35:04] <tsoome> you should.[23:36:09] <CodeWar> thanks guys[23:36:10] *** CodeWar has quit IRC[23:45:43] *** symptom has joined #opensolaris[23:45:44] *** symptom has joined #opensolaris[23:55:12] *** hsp has quit IRC