March 11, 2011 
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March 11, 2011 [00:01:30] *** stevel has joined #opensolaris[00:01:30] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stevel[00:01:51] *** AxeZ has quit IRC[00:02:24] *** Statts has quit IRC[00:05:12] *** stevel has quit IRC[00:05:25] *** stevel has joined #opensolaris[00:05:25] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stevel[00:06:02] *** smrt has quit IRC[00:06:17] *** smrt has joined #opensolaris[00:10:36] *** axisys has joined #opensolaris[00:11:34] <axisys> anyone knows what version snv is used to build 7410 ?[00:11:55] <richlowe> strictly, none of them[00:12:32] <alanc> and multiple ones, since they ship software updates based on later releases a couple times a year[00:13:13] <axisys> looking for a comparison between 7410 and nexenta[00:13:58] <alanc> both ship customized forks of the base nevada[00:14:18] <axisys> we do have a 7410 .. but other team wondering about how nexenta compares to 7410[00:14:36] <axisys> i see nexeta says snv 134+[00:15:20] <Triskelios> axisys: the build version is not terribly relevant for Nexenta given the volume of backports and other changes we have[00:16:19] *** deet has quit IRC[00:17:10] <axisys> do they have analytics as well ?[00:18:35] <axisys> Triskelios: do you guys support openindiana for enterprise customer, btw ? i guess i should ask you this in #openindiana chnl[00:19:10] <Triskelios> axisys: NS has analytics, but not the "drill-down" features of Fishworks[00:19:29] <Triskelios> axisys: there is no supported OI release yet[00:19:42] <axisys> some organizations within my company are not too happy with Oracle .. so we are looking around[00:19:45] <axisys> Triskelios: ok[00:23:19] *** nanase has quit IRC[00:28:21] *** ewdafa has quit IRC[00:33:07] *** dajhorn has joined #opensolaris[00:34:51] *** Spencer_tt has quit IRC[00:36:02] *** Edgeman has quit IRC[00:51:36] *** Spencer_tt has joined #opensolaris[00:57:17] *** InTheWings has quit IRC[00:58:02] *** cuguardo has quit IRC[00:59:17] *** fisted has quit IRC[01:00:31] *** fisted has joined 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malcolmlewis has quit IRC[07:09:25] *** malcolmlewis has joined #opensolaris[07:09:25] *** malcolmlewis has joined #opensolaris[07:19:08] *** iceq has quit IRC[07:24:08] *** iceq has joined #opensolaris[07:29:02] *** Spencer_tt has quit IRC[07:34:52] <kohju> large earthquake in Japan[07:38:30] *** vadim_comanescu has quit IRC[07:42:38] <_Tenchi_> 8.8[07:42:45] <_Tenchi_> pretty big[07:43:06] <kohju> yeah[07:43:43] <kohju> I'm in Shinagawa in Tokyo.[07:44:37] <alanc> since you're on IRC we'll have to assume you are okay and we'll be glad for that[07:44:41] <_Tenchi_> was just talking to someone else in tokyo... he took some video of his window[07:44:57] <kohju> people in Shinagawa Station is little panic[07:44:58] <_Tenchi_> tokyo 300km away from epicenter or something?[07:45:17] <kohju> I'm Ok[07:47:49] <alanc> https://twitter.com/#!/jimgris/status/46085328485875712[07:47:53] <_Tenchi_> he said things are still shakin[08:01:36] *** vadim_comanescu has joined #opensolaris[08:08:43] *** 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IRC[12:02:12] *** mmu_man has joined #opensolaris[12:10:09] *** tsoome has joined #opensolaris[12:15:17] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[12:15:58] *** held has joined #opensolaris[12:17:07] *** GdeLeo has quit IRC[12:21:04] *** Yu\2 has quit IRC[12:26:58] *** moepmoep has joined #opensolaris[12:48:03] *** niq has joined #opensolaris[12:48:03] *** niq has joined #opensolaris[12:48:09] *** eXeC001er has joined #opensolaris[12:48:15] <eXeC001er> Hi[12:54:33] <eXeC001er> Can you explain me about dedup? zfs destroy on dedup dataset is long operation. What about zpool destroy on dedup volume ? long or quickly ?[12:55:15] <eXeC001er> sorry. slow or quick ?[13:03:11] <seanmcg> zpool destroy gets rid of everything, it wouldn't care what zfs datasets have what properties. Should be quick enough.[13:03:44] <seanmcg> zfs may be slow since there may be other datasets having dedup and one doesn't want to mark blocks free that are used elsewhere[13:10:31] *** niq has quit IRC[13:29:14] *** Yu\2 has joined #opensolaris[13:29:16] *** nachox has joined #opensolaris[13:45:15] <FrankLv> I forget the password of my oracle 11 express x86, How can i reset?[13:45:48] <lblume> You should have forgotten it earlier, there was a whole discussion about that on[13:45:53] <lblume> on Monday or tuesday[13:46:18] <FrankLv> Let'm check the log[13:47:16] <lblume> Basically: boot media, mount rpool, renove password for user with sudo privilege[13:51:05] <FrankLv> can i add -s to grub entry and clean normal user's password?[13:51:56] <lblume> If you still have the login of a user that's allowed to sudo, yes[13:52:58] <FrankLv> Ok, let'm try[13:57:04] *** mmu_man has joined #opensolaris[13:59:07] *** nachox has quit IRC[14:03:04] *** calum is now known as calLNCH[14:08:05] *** Zubby has quit IRC[14:29:01] *** k1llah3rtz has quit IRC[14:30:14] <FrankLv> I bypass the user name after SINGLE USER MODE, it say returning to milestone all and then ask for user and passowrd again...[14:32:33] *** k1llah3rtz has joined #opensolaris[14:32:59] <lblume> You can't *bypass* a login in single user. You need to give a password allowed to log in.[14:37:55] <FrankLv> Oh, but i don't have,i forget both root and user with root role.[14:38:08] <FrankLv> Live-CD is the only way now?[14:39:32] *** taemun has quit IRC[14:39:35] *** GdeLeo has joined #opensolaris[14:45:57] <tomww> since "failsafe" boot archive is gone, yes. you need a usb or dvd boot media to mount the rpool[14:46:41] <tomww> you tried "sudo bash" with the working user and entered users own password? (just to be sure)[14:47:17] *** astra-x has quit IRC[14:48:13] *** Morfio has joined #opensolaris[14:55:24] *** Dagobert has quit IRC[14:57:55] <FrankLv> I think I forget all password.... Sigh[15:04:02] *** tsoome has quit IRC[15:06:32] *** calLNCH is now known as calumb[15:18:15] *** astra05 has joined #opensolaris[15:24:58] *** Statts has quit IRC[15:29:42] *** taemun has joined #opensolaris[15:31:31] *** dubf has quit IRC[15:34:03] *** comay has quit IRC[15:39:10] *** FrankLv has quit IRC[15:40:32] *** FrankLv has joined #opensolaris[15:49:16] *** moepmoep has quit IRC[15:50:13] *** superxgl has joined #opensolaris[15:52:00] <tomww> happens to every user from time to time[15:52:28] *** superxgl has quit IRC[15:52:43] <tomww> I started to place a ssh kay at the very beginning of an install into .ssh/autorized_keys to have that 80's passwords unnecessary[15:54:08] *** superxgl has joined #opensolaris[16:03:38] *** superxgl has quit IRC[16:14:14] *** moepmoep has joined #opensolaris[16:15:42] *** malcolmlewis has quit IRC[16:19:15] *** dajhorn has joined #opensolaris[16:24:19] *** InTheWings has joined #opensolaris[16:39:21] *** FastJack has quit IRC[16:39:45] *** calumb is now known as calSHOP[16:42:45] *** FastJack has joined #opensolaris[16:48:28] *** tsoome has joined #opensolaris[16:56:20] *** nanase has joined #opensolaris[17:02:03] *** melbogia has quit IRC[17:12:08] *** calSHOP is now known as calumb[17:15:52] *** melbogia has joined #opensolaris[17:19:14] *** melbogia has quit IRC[17:19:33] *** melbogia has joined #opensolaris[17:25:08] *** malcolmlewis has joined #opensolaris[17:25:08] *** malcolmlewis has joined #opensolaris[17:39:36] *** Edgeman has quit IRC[17:46:20] *** Edgeman has joined #opensolaris[17:50:42] *** Crypticfortune has joined #opensolaris[17:51:11] <Crypticfortune> Ok, this should be a simple fix...my box is refusing to start svc:system/filesystem/local because it can't mount '/export/foo' because /export/foo is not empty. and it's not empty because it already mounted /export/foo/bar...how to fix?[17:55:14] *** twister004 has quit IRC[17:59:41] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[18:05:07] *** ingenthr has joined #opensolaris[18:06:22] <bdha> Crypticfortune: Unmount /export/foo/bar, mount /export/foo.[18:06:29] <bdha> Clear filesystem/local.[18:06:35] <bdha> Figure out why your mount order is broken.[18:07:38] *** GdeLeo has left #opensolaris[18:10:39] <Crypticfortune> bdha: got it. /export was in fact cluttered with foo and foo/bar crap. i suspect due to unclean shutdown (aka earthquake induced power failure >_<;;[18:13:00] <bdha> :<[18:13:48] <Crypticfortune> thanks though ^^[18:14:11] *** stevel has joined #opensolaris[18:14:11] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stevel[18:17:49] *** robinbowes has quit IRC[18:20:40] *** astra05 has quit IRC[18:23:46] *** robinbowes has joined #opensolaris[18:23:57] *** amoe has joined #opensolaris[18:24:48] *** astra05 has joined #opensolaris[18:28:02] *** ZeroHour_ has joined #opensolaris[18:30:24] *** mmu_man has joined #opensolaris[18:30:56] *** ZeroHour has quit IRC[18:39:36] *** needle_ has joined #opensolaris[18:39:59] *** zynox has quit IRC[18:40:59] *** zynox has joined #opensolaris[18:41:23] *** hajma has joined #opensolaris[18:42:01] <RoyK> hm... someone asked here some time back if it was possible to boot a machine with some kernel settings that only allowed for, say, 1GB instead of all the box has. Linux has a setting for this, using mem= as a kernel boot parameter - does solaris/oi have something like this?[18:43:50] <jbk> i think you can set physmem in /etc/system[18:44:15] *** biant92 has joined #opensolaris[18:44:30] <Triskelios> which means -B physmem=... probably works[18:48:39] <RoyK> is that in kilobytes or pages or what?[18:49:14] <tsoome> apparently solaris kernel has it as well, as boot option[18:49:19] <tsoome> man kernel or man boot[18:49:21] *** galt has joined #opensolaris[18:50:14] <Triskelios> it's in pages, I should've mentioned[18:50:39] <RoyK> and I guess a page is 4k?[18:53:03] <Triskelios> it may include large pages as well, so may not be an exact quantity[18:53:22] <RoyK> set physmem=131072[18:53:31] <RoyK> 'top' still reports 8 gigs, though[18:53:34] <RoyK> after reboot[18:57:32] <RoyK> where's the grub config, btw? this is oi148[18:58:25] *** Chapayev has joined #opensolaris[19:00:59] *** Norrin has quit IRC[19:03:06] <Triskelios> /rpool/boot/grub[19:03:20] *** comay has joined #opensolaris[19:03:25] <Triskelios> setting it in /etc/system is probably too late[19:06:51] *** nonnooo has quit IRC[19:08:36] <RoyK> hm... changed menu.lst to 'kernel$ /platform/i86pc/kernel/$ISADIR/unix -B $ZFS-BOOTFS,physmem=524288', but the system still reports 8 gigs[19:09:56] <RoyK> messages:Mar 11 19:02:43 mime-oi unix: [ID 776368 kern.warning] WARNING: limiting physmem to 0x80000 of 0x1ff60b pages[19:10:33] <RoyK> that's what the logs say, which is new after moving the limit to grub, but still, top shows 8 gigs total[19:10:52] *** wdp has quit IRC[19:14:56] *** hajma has quit IRC[19:16:20] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o comay[19:18:09] *** niq has joined #opensolaris[19:18:09] *** niq has joined #opensolaris[19:37:39] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[19:57:17] *** iceq_ has joined #opensolaris[19:58:35] *** iceq has quit IRC[19:59:57] *** held has quit IRC[20:04:14] *** calumb has quit IRC[20:06:17] *** iceq_ has quit IRC[20:07:51] *** Yu\2 has quit IRC[20:10:45] *** iceq has joined #opensolaris[20:18:17] *** held has joined #opensolaris[20:28:17] *** Chapayev` has joined #opensolaris[20:28:44] *** mmu_man has joined #opensolaris[20:31:53] *** Chapayev has quit IRC[20:37:16] *** hajma has joined #opensolaris[21:01:36] *** Dagobert has joined #opensolaris[21:05:17] *** jfisc has quit IRC[21:05:59] *** eXeC001er has quit IRC[21:08:05] *** melbogia has quit IRC[21:13:00] *** Yu\2 has joined #opensolaris[21:16:06] *** Dagobert has quit IRC[21:23:55] *** Yu\2 has quit IRC[21:29:24] *** melbogia has joined #opensolaris[21:29:48] *** Chapayev` has quit IRC[21:31:11] *** jfisc has joined #opensolaris[21:44:38] *** biant92 has left #opensolaris[21:57:12] *** deedee has joined #opensolaris[22:16:25] *** Norrin has joined #opensolaris[22:22:41] *** deedee has quit IRC[22:30:42] *** AxeZ has joined #opensolaris[22:31:14] *** pothos has quit IRC[22:32:13] *** Zubby has joined #opensolaris[22:33:23] *** pothos has joined #opensolaris[22:35:07] *** k1llah3rtz has quit IRC[22:36:03] *** k1llah3rtz has joined #opensolaris[22:39:01] *** derchris has quit IRC[22:39:23] *** derchris has joined #opensolaris[22:44:50] *** ganbold has quit IRC[22:51:27] *** Morfio has quit IRC[22:59:28] *** Statts has joined #opensolaris[23:03:43] <RoyK> ops - wrong channel[23:03:46] <RoyK> any idea why physmem= doesn't work?[23:05:00] *** pizdec has quit IRC[23:05:50] *** dajhorn has quit IRC[23:06:36] *** Chapayev has joined #opensolaris[23:07:55] <richlowe> Yes[23:11:36] *** hsp has quit IRC[23:18:37] <richlowe> though I haven't looked at how top measures, prtconf measures in such a way that the it ignores the limit.[23:20:56] <Triskelios> alanc: forgot to ask, do you have sufficient privileges to change the channel greeting message from ChanServ here? it's woefully out of date and probably should just be deleted[23:21:15] <richlowe> Looks a lot like top does, too.[23:21:34] <richlowe> RoyK: so your answer is "It does work", or perhaps "Find a better example of it not working"[23:21:44] <alanc> Triskelios: not sure, never tried before[23:22:38] *** needle_ has quit IRC[23:22:40] <richlowe> RoyK: also, phsymem in /etc/system doesn't work, and should explicitly tell you it won't (if you fell into that trap)[23:22:57] <richlowe> _also_, why in the world are you having to change it?[23:23:43] *** javashin has joined #opensolaris[23:23:43] <Triskelios> alanc: /cs set #opensolaris entrymsg <msg>[23:23:43] *** javashin has quit IRC[23:23:43] *** javashin has joined #opensolaris[23:23:52] <richlowe> alanc: /m chanserv set #opensolaris entrymessage ...[23:24:03] <richlowe> dammit, I lost _and_ got the varname wrong.[23:26:46] *** yippi has joined #opensolaris[23:26:51] *** alanc has left #opensolaris[23:26:55] *** alanc has joined #opensolaris[23:26:55] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o alanc[23:27:45] <alanc> so the current entry message is: Handy URLs: 'The OpenSolaris Wiki' @ http://www.genunix.org/wiki ; 'What is OpenSolaris?' @ http://whacked.net/what_is_opensolaris ; Download OpenSolaris @ http://opensolaris.org/os/downloads/ . For all other info, please visit the main OpenSolaris website at http://www.opensolaris.org/ . Also, see the channel topic for further URLs, tips and pointers.[23:28:54] <alanc> most of that does seem behind the times - anyone want to suggest a new message or should I just clear it all?[23:32:00] <alanc> (the last sentence is the most correct)[23:33:22] <richlowe> I'd clear it.[23:34:00] <jelmd> who cares? ;-)[23:34:23] <alanc> everyone who joins this channel still and gets sent the message?[23:34:47] *** alanc has left #opensolaris[23:34:52] *** alanc has joined #opensolaris[23:34:52] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o alanc[23:35:03] <alanc> seems to have stuck[23:35:18] <alanc> err, the clearing seems to have worked, didn't get a message on join[23:36:02] <jelmd> one beep less after net split :)[23:36:33] <alanc> you get beeped on netsplits? that must be horrible[23:36:57] *** javashin has quit IRC[23:37:22] <jelmd> on some messages - haven't found out yet, what the algor. is ...[23:37:54] <richlowe> notices, probably[23:38:15] <jelmd> but as long as it is not a continueous beep, i don't car ;-)[23:40:32] <Berny> 'lo elke :-)[23:41:00] <jelmd> oh - berny online :)[23:41:51] <Berny> mostly :-P[23:42:17] <jelmd> @home or @work?[23:42:21] *** Chapayev has quit IRC[23:43:25] <Berny> @work@home[23:43:32] * jelmd is watching the Wok WM quali ;-)[23:43:43] <Berny> hehe[23:43:47] <Berny> no tv here[23:45:10] <Berny> darn why doesn't the good old ttwebtop (tarantella client) work on sol11express anymore?[23:46:47] <jelmd> because its OLD ? ;-)[23:47:47] <Berny> hmpf![23:48:00] <Berny> the java web thingi kills FF4rc1 :-\[23:48:23] <Berny> the java web thingi kills FF4b12 :-\[23:49:35] <Berny> the java web thingi kills FF4b11 :-\[23:51:55] <jelmd> maybe switching the plugin libs helps ...[23:52:17] <Berny> ha works in FF3.6.10[23:54:08] *** Statts has quit IRC[23:57:25] <Berny> all using the same javaplugin