March 5, 2011 
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joined #opensolaris[07:23:20] *** Spencer_tt has joined #opensolaris[07:29:15] *** Gman_ has joined #opensolaris[07:29:15] *** Gman__ has quit IRC[07:31:06] *** mounty has quit IRC[07:36:35] *** javashin has joined #opensolaris[07:36:42] *** ingenthr has joined #opensolaris[07:45:13] *** FrankLv has quit IRC[07:48:55] *** ingenthr has quit IRC[07:53:25] *** FrankLv has joined #opensolaris[07:56:39] *** rcorreia has quit IRC[07:56:39] *** djinni has quit IRC[07:56:55] *** rcorreia has joined #opensolaris[08:01:45] *** djinni has joined #opensolaris[08:03:10] *** zedrich has joined #opensolaris[08:05:50] *** Meths has quit IRC[08:06:45] *** tsoome has quit IRC[08:07:13] *** bobbyz has joined #opensolaris[08:15:51] *** abisen has joined #opensolaris[08:25:08] *** doggiee___ has quit IRC[08:30:48] <zedrich> sooo no release since 06/2009? and no dev drops since 134?[08:31:42] <sickness> OpenSolaris distribution replaced (at 134b) by Solaris 11 Express 2010.11 (151a) <- read the topic :/[08:32:20] <zedrich> the topic says to download opensolaris from that link heh[08:32:23] <sickness> http://openindiana.org/ <- and go there also :)[08:32:34] <zedrich> I used to use it a lot but found it odd that nothing has changed in a year, including that topic[08:32:46] <zedrich> but we named the dog Indiana[08:39:39] *** mmu_man has joined #opensolaris[08:44:36] *** javashin has quit IRC[08:44:43] *** tsoome has joined #opensolaris[08:45:15] <Triskelios> zedrich: the topic is entirely new. that's not a download link for opensolaris[08:48:15] <Triskelios> and the topic answers your questions, too[08:51:27] *** CodeWar has joined #opensolaris[08:51:32] <zedrich> Download OpenSolaris http://opensolaris.org/os/downloads/[08:51:39] <zedrich> thats whats in the topic[08:51:43] <zedrich> and aligns with my statement[08:51:57] <zedrich> and the pointers to solaris 11 express and indiana exist in the topic?[08:52:00] *** Guest87704 has quit IRC[08:52:01] <Triskelios> that's not in the topic at all[08:52:19] <zedrich> haha[08:52:31] <zedrich> you should look at the private message that comes from Chanserv as the topic[08:52:42] <zedrich> Wiki' @ http://www.genunix.org/wiki ; 'What is OpenSolaris?' @[08:52:43] <zedrich> http://whacked.net/what_is_opensolaris ; Download OpenSolaris @[08:52:43] <zedrich> http://opensolaris.org/os/downloads/ . For all other info, please[08:52:43] <zedrich> visit the main OpenSolaris website at http://www.opensolaris.org/ .[08:52:43] <zedrich> Also, see the channel topic for further URLs, tips and pointers.[08:53:00] <zedrich> that was rude, but maybe youll now change it :)[08:53:31] <Triskelios> I didn't know that message existed[08:53:41] <Triskelios> but yeah, that's wrong[08:54:09] <zedrich> ah thanks[08:54:20] <zedrich> btw ... i used to come in here when I worked for oracle..[08:54:27] <CodeWar> gotta admit osol was fun while it lasted :-) surprisingly very stable too[08:54:31] <zedrich> and say they sucked, I since moved on to another big corp..[08:54:36] <zedrich> yeah[08:54:52] <zedrich> so there is no opensource version of solaris at this point?[08:54:56] <zedrich> oracle closed it back up?[08:54:59] <Triskelios> Topic for #opensolaris is: OS/Net closed (at 147). Community fork: #illumos | OpenSolaris distribution replaced (at 134b) by Solaris 11 Express 2010.11 (151a) Download/Info: http://bit.ly/d809HG | Alternative: #openindiana | Other projects remain on opensolaris.org | Docs: (READ THEM!) http://wong.to/docs | Sysadm Guide: http://wong.to/sag | Linux->Solaris migrants: http://bhami.com/rosetta.html[08:55:26] <zedrich> i mean ... oracle sucks, no doubt about that.[08:55:44] <CodeWar> zedrich, you an ex Sun employee or ex Oracle[08:55:47] <zedrich> worst place I can imagine working for... except they paid me to sit and do very little (due to acquisition pace)[08:55:49] <Triskelios> that's correct. it's been forked and the open derivative is called illumos[08:55:56] <zedrich> BEA then Oracle[08:56:10] <zedrich> forked.. was that allowed in the open license?[08:56:23] <zedrich> also, that means the fork will just simply be its own thing from here on out?[08:56:25] <Triskelios> yes, of course[08:56:36] <CodeWar> hard to judge a company like that... every company has good groups / cool groups / shitty groups and slow groups :-)[08:56:41] *** Guest87704 has joined #opensolaris[08:56:56] <zedrich> well .. copyright holders are allowed to open source stuff and can limit forking / replication .. just depends all on the license[08:57:10] <zedrich> if they wanted they could say its a read-only copy... i mean its all legal heh[08:57:36] <Triskelios> zedrich: the CDDL is a real free software licence[08:57:40] <zedrich> yeah not judging is a good habit to have[08:57:54] <zedrich> although in this case ... Im right to judge :)[08:58:05] <zedrich> its mostly just culture and company agenda right.[08:59:08] <CodeWar> BEA is where jrockit came from right? that thing is bad ass .. their JITTer sucks but the GC is impressive[08:59:39] <zedrich> yeahp, that was BEA[08:59:47] <zedrich> also an initiative called java on bare metal[08:59:52] <zedrich> by the same group[08:59:52] <CodeWar> liquid vm?[08:59:56] <zedrich> yeah[09:00:01] <CodeWar> yea never heard what became of it .. its not in the news anymore[09:00:01] <zedrich> i was part of aqualogic[09:00:14] <zedrich> right... oracle has their own spin and produt management[09:00:46] <zedrich> funny how that works too.. here in silicon valley the same pattern emerges... smart people start a company, get it going.. make millions in their pockets when oracle buys it, quit, then do it all over again[09:01:17] <zedrich> i worked at plumtree and saw those guys do that when BEA bought it .. and then those same dudes just got bought by google and are working out their 1 year terms.. heh[09:01:34] <zedrich> probably do it all over again[09:02:01] <zedrich> what I mean to say is that yeah oracle isnt run by idiots but its by no means the real engine .. they are a clearing house more than a core of innovation[09:02:17] <CodeWar> their DB is innovative :)[09:02:20] <zedrich> all the people that stay after that are looking more for a paycheck and security than to push and innovate[09:02:24] <zedrich> is it?[09:02:36] <CodeWar> is it not? I m not db expert[09:02:49] <zedrich> i mean .. i work for a company that .. well .. we sell a data fabric as part of our solution[09:03:05] <zedrich> well it is but innovation would be to get rid of your database ..[09:03:19] <zedrich> and replace it with something more distributed by its very nature[09:03:28] <zedrich> thus, the whole cloud thing out there now..[09:03:40] <CodeWar> the nosql gang ... hmmm I have mixed feelings about that[09:03:42] <zedrich> i think its going to change the whole way we do computing within a decade[09:04:11] <zedrich> no one ever thought about being able to scale so much as to lease a VM running by the hour before amazon[09:04:16] <CodeWar> people often mix up a <a> data store <b> query engine <c> storage engine <d> relational layer[09:04:33] <zedrich> hmmm right[09:04:49] <CodeWar> the no sql ones do <a> and <c> right or <a> very right <c> sort of[09:04:53] <zedrich> kind of like an OS is a collection of concepts[09:05:02] <zedrich> a database is still a composite 'old world' tool :)[09:05:11] <CodeWar> agree[09:05:42] <zedrich> actually datafabrics that can store locally but also do sync / async offloading to a backend seem to cover it off[09:06:17] <zedrich> now Im wondering if virtualbox is open source[09:09:23] <CodeWar> the jrockit guys .. that was an acquisition of BEA right .. bunch of swedish guys got bought over a bunch of times i think[09:09:47] <zedrich> yeah[09:10:08] <zedrich> the guys I knew who were doing their config management left and now work on buckminster[09:10:13] <zedrich> within the eclipse realm[09:10:30] <zedrich> are you in canada or california? heh[09:10:39] <CodeWar> california[09:10:46] <zedrich> ok.. same here[09:10:56] <CodeWar> not a bad place after all[09:11:03] <zedrich> hmmmm[09:11:14] <zedrich> that really depends on how ya slice it heh[09:11:52] <CodeWar> just did my taxes[09:12:07] <zedrich> yeah... thats a great example heh[09:12:31] <zedrich> pay more than just about any other state even though the most lucrative industries in the world exist here.. something wrong with that picture[09:13:09] <zedrich> youd think the better the GDP for a state, the more money flowing and it can tax overall, the less percentage it would need from everyone[09:13:26] <zedrich> instead its one of the only states to almost bankrupt etc[09:13:32] <zedrich> crazies running the asylum[09:15:05] *** abisen has quit IRC[09:22:23] *** CodeWar has quit IRC[09:49:15] *** nonnooo has joined #opensolaris[10:26:02] *** Posterdati_ has quit IRC[10:26:24] *** Posterdati has joined #opensolaris[10:35:22] *** tnn_ has joined #opensolaris[10:38:08] <CIA-108> SFE jurikm: SFEusbmodeswitch.spec: bump to 1.1.7[10:45:52] *** pjama has left #opensolaris[10:58:18] *** Yu\2 has joined #opensolaris[11:04:06] *** stevel has quit IRC[11:14:37] *** jayne has joined #opensolaris[11:20:31] *** pjama has joined #opensolaris[11:24:49] *** jfisc1 has quit IRC[11:24:58] *** pjama has quit IRC[11:26:13] *** wdp_ has joined 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contnued.[16:13:58] <eklof> Oh yes it seems so.[16:14:15] <eklof> So probably nothing physical wrong then?[16:14:21] *** FastJack has joined #opensolaris[16:14:47] <tsoome> if no errors, iostat -E, dmesg, then ye, no physical issues.[16:15:06] <eklof> Maybe they should disallow scrubbing a pool without all the keys on place.[16:15:07] <tsoome> solaris is rather not quiet about hardware issues.[16:15:56] *** axisys has quit IRC[16:16:03] <eklof> Hopefully the next express release will have scrub and encryption play along a bit better :)[16:16:25] *** axisys has joined #opensolaris[16:19:16] *** tsoome has quit IRC[16:23:34] *** balrog has quit IRC[16:25:19] *** balrog has joined #opensolaris[16:25:23] *** tsoome has joined #opensolaris[16:29:38] *** tsoome has quit IRC[16:35:59] *** tsoome has joined #opensolaris[16:37:01] *** balrog has quit IRC[16:40:43] *** balrog has joined #opensolaris[16:43:24] *** axisys has quit IRC[16:45:13] *** axisys has joined #opensolaris[16:45:24] *** 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