November 27, 2008 
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November 27, 2008 [00:00:08] *** skylance has quit IRC [00:01:07] *** StayTuned has joined #opensolaris [00:01:33] <StayTuned> e^ipi still can't seem to make it work for OpenSolaris [00:03:11] <StayTuned> /etc/hosts is [00:03:28] <StayTuned> ::1 localhost [00:03:57] <StayTuned> 127.0.0.1 noisecontrol.local localhost loghost [00:04:47] <StayTuned> 208.125.227 noisecontrol.rtls0 localhost loghost [00:05:10] <StayTuned> hmmm.... [00:05:21] <StayTuned> I wonder if it shouldn't point to localhost [00:05:29] *** zarguni has quit IRC [00:06:16] <eviljames> StayTuned: uhm... I see a couple things with what you pasted that could be causing a problem. [00:06:44] <eviljames> 1) localhost is bound to 2 different IP addresses. and 2) the 2nd IP address is missing the last digits. [00:06:45] <StayTuned> ok [00:06:57] *** phips has quit IRC [00:07:05] <StayTuned> i just mistyped 2 [00:07:25] <eviljames> oh, I thought that might have been copy/paste [00:07:45] <eviljames> In any case, if you are trying to achieve something that I know about I'll give you a hand. [00:07:53] *** xRaich[o]2x has quit IRC [00:08:51] <StayTuned> eviljames - just trying to set up a static ip [00:09:06] <StayTuned> on a fresh OS install [00:09:46] <eviljames> Oh, I don't think you want to be in hosts. [00:10:32] *** telpochyaotl has quit IRC [00:12:32] *** kim0 has quit IRC [00:12:39] *** pjfloyd has left #opensolaris [00:13:45] <StayTuned> in /etc/netmasks should my "network number" be my gateway? [00:13:48] *** esaxe has quit IRC [00:14:01] *** esaxe has joined #opensolaris [00:14:29] *** dunc has quit IRC [00:16:34] <eviljames> StayTuned: http://blogs.sun.com/natarajan/entry/setting_up_static_ip_and [00:16:47] <eviljames> Don't know if you've read that yet, but it looks like it has everything you're looking for. [00:17:21] <eviljames> StayTuned: And more, now that I review it. Because this also touches on nis/yp. [00:18:31] <StayTuned> hmmm... I don't know nis / yp yet [00:18:57] <StayTuned> let me try this [00:19:10] *** Archite has joined #OpenSolaris [00:19:37] *** Rarok has left #opensolaris [00:20:36] *** cky has joined #opensolaris [00:20:44] <zimmermanc> trying to find a package that contains a file. pkg search ? [00:20:49] <zimmermanc> pkg search gnome-autogen.sh [00:20:54] <zimmermanc> unfortunately comes up with nothing [00:21:30] <codestr0m> zimmermanc: pkg search -r "*foo*" [00:22:02] *** stevel has joined #opensolaris [00:22:02] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stevel [00:22:22] <zimmermanc> ah, great, thanks [00:22:41] *** stevel has quit IRC [00:22:54] *** stevel has joined #opensolaris [00:22:54] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stevel [00:23:08] *** telpochyaotl has joined #opensolaris [00:23:12] *** phips has joined #opensolaris [00:23:51] <telpochyaotl> dustman, PersonXXL, thanks! [00:25:33] * alanc shamefully admits 2008.11 will not be officially released until December, since the Sun US offices are closed the rest of the week for Thanksgiving, and December starts on Monday [00:25:35] *** PicCard has quit IRC [00:25:53] <yksinaisyyteni> alanc: better delay it another month so all the branding can be changed [00:26:10] * codestr0m laughs and suggests a rename [00:26:17] *** Gary_ has joined #opensolaris [00:26:34] <c00p> do a silent release to the package system for us :) [00:26:36] <alanc> won't be the first time, and certainly not the last, that Sun has released a product with a date in it's name in a different month (either sooner or later) [00:26:43] *** Gary_ is now known as Guest40341 [00:26:49] <alanc> c00p: who says we haven't already? 8-> [00:27:02] <Gnu_Raiz> so it will be 2008.12 hehe [00:27:41] <alanc> or it will be 2008.11 bits that were posted in November, but not officially blessed as the final release until December [00:27:59] <piwi> just typing this as question :) [00:28:04] * c00p does a pkg refresh and image-upgrade :) [00:28:31] <alanc> unless something major is found with RC2 between now and their scheduled official baptism/confirmation day [00:28:34] <c00p> *image update [00:28:40] *** FreakGuard_ has quit IRC [00:28:49] <Gnu_Raiz> why not use beadm? [00:28:56] *** gb7 has joined #opensolaris [00:29:17] <zimmermanc> heh, i don't want to jinx it, but i think this might just compile [00:29:23] * zimmermanc holds breath [00:29:23] <c00p> Gnu_Raiz: me? [00:29:28] <Gnu_Raiz> what does the bts show. are a lot of bugs incoming. [00:29:41] <Gnu_Raiz> just a suggestion. [00:30:01] <Gnu_Raiz> I think image update calls beadm anyway. [00:30:03] * Archite is really liking rc2 [00:30:13] <Archite> Gnu_Raiz, this is true [00:30:46] <Gnu_Raiz> what is rc2 nv 101c or something else. [00:31:05] <zimmermanc> 101b Gnu_Raiz i do believe [00:31:19] <c00p> Gnu_Raiz: yeh it does. [00:31:19] <zimmermanc> nothing newer than that in my updater currently [00:31:26] <Gnu_Raiz> does anyone have a change log from rc1? [00:31:51] <Gnu_Raiz> I have 101b from the entire package. [00:32:05] *** Tpenta has quit IRC [00:32:19] <zimmermanc> WOOHOO [00:32:24] <Gnu_Raiz> which was kind of slick as it did not create a clone, just updated the image to what rc1 would be. [00:32:48] *** ShadowHntr has quit IRC [00:32:53] *** Tpenta has joined #opensolaris [00:33:05] *** dustman has quit IRC [00:33:21] <Gnu_Raiz> Only problem I have is I probably need to do a fresh install anyway as I think I am missing some important files. [00:33:41] <Gnu_Raiz> for example I can pkgadd oss as it tells me I am missing a admin file. [00:33:45] <c00p> alanc: You don't expect many changes between rc2 and 2008.11 build ? [00:33:48] *** hrist has quit IRC [00:34:18] <Gnu_Raiz> and my skge drive won't install at all for some reason. [00:36:20] <Gnu_Raiz> kind of wish I could play with fishworks. [00:36:42] <Gnu_Raiz> that is pretty slick package. [00:37:25] <Gnu_Raiz> the yt videos are way cool as well, heck I think fishworks with all the dtrace automation might be worth it all by it's self. [00:37:58] *** Teo` has quit IRC [00:38:34] *** Guest40341 has quit IRC [00:40:47] *** _Auralis has joined #opensolaris [00:41:18] <telpochyaotl> is there an equivalent to gnu screen in OS? [00:41:43] <e^ipi> yes. [00:41:45] <e^ipi> gnu screen [00:41:53] <c00p> telpochyaotl: I could not find anything and just installed the screen package manually from sun freeware [00:42:13] <c00p> but I have not checked the pkg since 200805 tho ... [00:42:13] <eviljames> haha [00:42:23] <e^ipi> it's been in the repo since b100 [00:42:30] <eviljames> e^ipi: So I was able to answer theat least 1 of the 3 questions I posed to you earlier. [00:42:42] <e^ipi> i didn't know you asked me questions [00:42:52] <eviljames> e^ipi: 2008.11 does not recognize this 1220SA either. [00:42:54] <c00p> well there ya go - guess I should remove the sfw package and install from repo ... [00:42:54] <eviljames> at least, rc2 does not [00:43:07] <zimmermanc> how does one disable the internal speaker on this solaris machien? it's driving me crazy [00:43:18] <eviljames> e^ipi: It was about where to modify the system to try and fake support for the hardware I have. [00:43:22] <telpochyaotl> c00p ok... thanks! [00:44:05] *** StayTuned has quit IRC [00:44:07] <e^ipi> zimmermanc, wire snips ? [00:44:19] <e^ipi> why is it beeping, what're you doing? [00:44:21] <eviljames> zimmermanc: bios? [00:44:29] <c00p> pkg install SUNWscreen - awesome :) Love screen and my screenrc :) [00:44:46] <zimmermanc> any sort of 'alert' does it [00:44:55] <c00p> + irssi ... great combo [00:44:58] <zimmermanc> gnome-terminal , backspace when nothing is there [00:45:00] <rv-> depending on your soundcard, there's a checkbox on the volume applet [00:45:07] <zimmermanc> or ctrl+f in firefox [00:45:26] <zimmermanc> ya there is, doesn't do anything [00:45:28] <eviljames> c00p: speak the truth! screen+irssi = me right now. [00:45:30] <rv-> oh, there's an option for that on preferences>sound [00:45:32] <c00p> and thats even in packages now ... dam all the freeware package I had to originally store [00:45:42] <e^ipi> edit> profile preferences > terminal bell [00:45:50] <telpochyaotl> e^ipi: so i guess i can do pkg image-update and be able to get it (running .05 [00:46:10] <c00p> telpochyaotl: wat build you on ? [00:46:19] <telpochyaotl> 2008.06 [00:46:21] <telpochyaotl> sorry [00:46:23] <telpochyaotl> .05 [00:46:29] *** gb7 has quit IRC [00:46:36] <e^ipi> if it's not already available to you after a refresh, yes [00:46:40] <c00p> make sure you do pkg install SUNWipkg first [00:46:56] <telpochyaotl> c00p: yea, it won't let me w/o it... [00:47:02] <telpochyaotl> doing it now [00:47:09] <c00p> nice [00:48:01] <c00p> telpochyaotl: where is what does .mx represent ? [00:48:03] *** Kernel86 has joined #OpenSolaris [00:48:09] <eviljames> mexico? [00:48:12] <c00p> where is / what [00:48:21] <eviljames> e^ipi: You sure are popular today, everyone's pulling at your coat strings for help. [00:50:09] <eviljames> e^ipi: Me included. I can't for the life of me remember what I should be looking for to make osol believe it supports this crappy device. [00:50:31] <e^ipi> driver_aliases [00:50:48] <e^ipi> it's in /etc [00:51:08] *** jteo has joined #opensolaris [00:51:09] * eviljames slaps himself in the head [00:51:14] <eviljames> merci beaucoup. [00:51:34] *** zimmermanc has quit IRC [00:52:21] *** jteo has quit IRC [00:53:59] *** vmlemon_ has quit IRC [00:56:00] *** Auralis_ has quit IRC [00:56:43] *** StayTuned has joined #opensolaris [00:56:54] <StayTuned> hello [00:56:59] <StayTuned> From OpenSolaris [00:57:11] <eviljames> StayTuned: got your static ip going? [00:57:17] <StayTuned> I forgot that you guys keep assuming a router [00:57:31] <StayTuned> I put my router in place [00:57:42] <StayTuned> and it started working with the DHCP on the router [00:58:41] <StayTuned> I will ask you guys for future tips once I am settled in [00:59:06] *** crichardso has quit IRC [00:59:10] <eviljames> StayTuned: Good job! [00:59:14] *** stevel has quit IRC [00:59:27] <StayTuned> thanks eviljames [00:59:38] *** jtmuzix has joined #opensolaris [01:02:49] *** pipes has joined #opensolaris [01:07:40] *** biafra has quit IRC [01:10:14] *** The-spiki has quit IRC [01:11:42] *** jay-away has quit IRC [01:22:45] *** skylance has joined #opensolaris [01:27:25] *** jtmuzix_ has joined #opensolaris [01:27:55] *** nachox has joined #opensolaris [01:29:27] *** yarihm has quit IRC [01:35:36] *** jtmuzix has quit IRC [01:37:34] *** ubuntero has quit IRC [01:41:25] *** zarqman has quit IRC [01:49:20] *** piwi has quit IRC [01:53:33] *** axisys has joined #opensolaris [01:54:44] *** Aria has quit IRC [01:55:44] *** Kernel86 has quit IRC [01:56:44] *** Archite has quit IRC [01:56:51] <hajma> Hi, is it normal that ulimit -n gives me 256 ? (rc2 here) [01:57:36] <dep> yes, I think that is the default [01:57:46] <hajma> isn't it damn low? [01:57:49] <dep> you can raise it, though [01:57:53] <c00p> mine rc2 give 256 as well :) [01:58:38] <dep> the reason it hasn't been raised is there are a lot apps out there who things like 'for (i = 0; i < max_fds; i++)' which blow up if you raise the number [01:59:46] <dep> and it breaks ABI compbatility with System V apps that use FILE structures [02:00:11] <nachox> i think 256 was also the limit of open files you could have till not so long ago using the standard c libraries [02:00:24] <hajma> by default it is 1024 @linux. Also I remember raising it to 10000 for some Sun Java ES apps [02:00:35] <dep> (since someone a long time ago, in a bill gatesian moment, decided that a byte worth of fds would be good enough for anyone) [02:00:42] *** JoergB has quit IRC [02:00:53] *** fr4g has joined #opensolaris [02:00:55] *** JoergB has joined #opensolaris [02:01:02] <nachox> it was fixed... [02:01:48] *** Kernel86 has joined #OpenSolaris [02:01:57] <dep> It was fixed, though I don't know if it helps previously compiled applications. [02:02:16] <dep> Of course, a great question is: should OpenSolaris care about those apps? [02:02:29] <nachox> of couse it should [02:03:01] *** esok has joined #opensolaris [02:03:03] *** proberts has quit IRC [02:03:47] <dep> possibly. or opensolaris could raise the cap, and Sun's "Solaris" distro could leave it at 256 to serve their customers [02:04:05] <dep> it's just a matter of configuration, after all [02:04:33] *** codestr0m has quit IRC [02:06:08] *** codestr0m has joined #opensolaris [02:06:23] *** proberts has joined #opensolaris [02:08:08] *** RavenSlay3r has left #opensolaris [02:13:31] *** pumpkin_ has joined #opensolaris [02:14:34] *** tagx_ has joined #opensolaris [02:14:52] *** jtmuzix_ has quit IRC [02:16:13] *** codestr0m has quit IRC [02:16:42] <tagx_> i am trying to install opensolaris 2008.11 rc2 in a xen domu under a debian, the installer install fine, but when i go and try to boot it, i get this: http://pastebin.ca/raw/1268094 [02:20:08] *** kohju is now known as KOHJU [02:22:03] <tagx_> any ideas? [02:23:17] *** proberts has quit IRC [02:25:53] <rv-> tagx_> does that version of xen knows how to boot a domU with zfs root ? [02:26:44] <tagx_> rv-: i copied the kernel and ramdisk to the dom0 though and am running that, look at the config file below the crash [02:26:51] <tagx_> rv-: but what should the kernel options be? [02:27:38] *** axisys has quit IRC [02:30:07] <rv-> tagx_> I don't know, mostly guessing here [02:30:12] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Tpenta [02:30:28] <rv-> that stack trace looks like the one you get if u don't boot with -B ZFS-BOOTFS [02:33:02] *** axisys has joined #opensolaris [02:33:24] *** rv- has quit IRC [02:35:39] <tagx_> hmm [02:35:44] <tagx_> that makaes sense [02:36:10] <tagx_> in 2008.05, i see xen tutorials booting it with rpool/27, where does the 27 come from? [02:37:19] *** axisys has quit IRC [02:37:43] *** Odin- has quit IRC [02:37:46] *** zimmermanc has joined #opensolaris [02:37:49] *** PersonXXL has quit IRC [02:38:34] *** axisys has joined #opensolaris [02:39:05] *** Rarok has joined #opensolaris [02:40:54] *** Rarok has quit IRC [02:43:21] <e^ipi> tagx_: you can call it whatever you want [02:43:52] <e^ipi> rpool/solaris, rpool/porngoeshere [02:43:54] <e^ipi> whatever [02:44:12] <tagx_> yes, but what do i give the kernel with -B zfs-bootfs=? [02:44:23] <tagx_> basically, what does $ZFS_BOOTFS expand to? [02:44:49] <e^ipi> whichever FS is your boot fs [02:45:03] <tagx_> what if i am not using grub? [02:45:06] <e^ipi> 'zpool get bootfs' [02:45:19] <e^ipi> hells if i know, pygrub takes care of it on my xen machine [02:45:31] <tagx_> what dom0 are you running? [02:45:43] <e^ipi> nevada [02:45:54] <tagx_> ah, i am running debian, so pygrub there does not support zfs [02:46:02] <e^ipi> use our pygrub [02:46:17] <e^ipi> the how of that is left as an exercise of the reader [02:47:06] <e^ipi> or virtualize linux and have solaris as the host [02:47:21] *** Openfree has joined #opensolaris [02:47:24] <e^ipi> which would be what i would do [02:48:35] <e^ipi> then you gain all the zfs goodies on your linux drive too [02:49:07] <nachox> and you'll gain... well not-linux :) [02:49:41] *** ukdolphin has quit IRC [02:50:20] <tagx_> my bootfs is rpool/ROOt/opensolaris [02:50:25] <tagx_> which is what i have it set to [02:51:03] <e^ipi> yeah, well i also don't see the point in running the better of the two OS's under virtualization but that's just me [02:51:43] <tagx_> well, first i want to learn a little bit more about solaris before i run it as a dom0 [02:53:00] *** Joerg has joined #opensolaris [02:54:49] <tagx_> also, how would i netboot install an xvm guest? [02:54:53] <tagx_> *xvm server [02:55:42] <e^ipi> there's an option to virt-install, innit? [02:56:07] <tagx_> i don't see one [02:56:35] *** dsch04 has quit IRC [03:00:47] *** JoergB has quit IRC [03:07:39] *** mbz has joined #opensolaris [03:11:09] *** nachox has quit IRC [03:11:11] *** chendy has joined #opensolaris [03:17:08] *** ttmrichter_ has quit IRC [03:17:52] *** KOHJU is now known as kohju [03:26:48] *** ttmrichter has joined #opensolaris [03:29:18] *** anilg has joined #opensolaris [03:33:56] *** yoursdai has joined #opensolaris [03:34:02] <yoursdai> Hi,every [03:35:18] <yoursdai> Does anyone know the data struct of zfs to store zfs snapshot. Now I have a lot of snapshots,but I can't get some of the every quickly. [03:35:23] *** Openfree has quit IRC [03:36:08] *** Openfree has joined #opensolaris [03:36:25] <jamesd> yoursdai, zfs datastructs are documented in the code and on a google video... search data zfs [03:37:24] <jamesd> but given that many of the structs are stored in compressed its not something you want to deal with on a whim [03:39:17] <jamesd> http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=data+struct+zfs&emb=0&aq=f&aq=f#q=%20zfs&emb=0&start=10 <-- 43 minutes of video on the subject [03:42:33] <yoursdai> Jamesd,Thank you very much. [03:48:27] *** freakazoid0223 has quit IRC [03:52:40] *** photon_chac has joined #opensolaris [04:02:17] *** T_B has joined #opensolaris [04:10:56] *** kohju is now known as KOHJU [04:16:41] *** yoursdai has quit IRC [04:16:52] *** boyd_ is now known as boyd [04:20:12] <boyd> jamesd: There's also http://opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/docs/ondiskformat0822.pdf [04:20:34] *** T_B_ has quit IRC [04:23:00] *** m3t4l has joined #opensolaris [04:23:05] <jamesd> yeah i remeber that now that you mention it.. but i think the video is better.. but still way too complex to ever think about doing. [04:24:39] *** m3t4l has left #opensolaris [04:24:43] *** m3t4l has joined #opensolaris [04:25:10] <boyd> :) [04:27:08] *** m3t4l has left #opensolaris [04:35:49] *** esok has left #opensolaris [04:37:09] *** esok has joined #opensolaris [04:37:21] *** esok has quit IRC [04:40:34] *** freakazoid0223 has joined #opensolaris [04:41:05] *** zhongyuan has joined #opensolaris [04:42:54] *** Atomdrache has quit IRC [04:43:19] <tCzern_> Hello, I am running the Live CD right now, trying to find settings for drop shadows [04:43:39] <tCzern_> I am in Appearance and in this compiz manager [04:43:45] <tCzern_> anyone? [04:43:47] *** tagx_ has quit IRC [04:45:16] *** Atomdrache has joined #opensolaris [04:46:11] *** Rocket2DMn has quit IRC [04:51:53] *** m3t4l1 has joined #opensolaris [04:53:45] *** hecki has joined #opensolaris [04:56:33] *** m3t4l1 has left #opensolaris [04:57:44] *** telpochyaotl has quit IRC [05:02:45] *** T_B_ has joined #opensolaris [05:06:14] *** codestr0m1 has joined #opensolaris [05:07:52] *** alanc is now known as alanc-away [05:10:14] *** fr4g has quit IRC [05:11:20] *** hecki_ has quit IRC [05:16:07] *** T_B has quit IRC [05:39:17] *** branesks has joined #opensolaris [05:40:15] <branesks> Just a quick question. I just need to know which version of Python shipped with 05.08 and 11.08. I cannot get to my Solaris box until tomorrow. [05:40:59] *** gecjr has joined #opensolaris [05:48:06] <StayTuned> woot [05:48:35] *** g4lt-work has joined #opensolaris [05:48:38] *** bourgois has quit IRC [05:53:15] *** LordIllpalazo has joined #opensolaris [05:53:40] <StayTuned> what is milestone multi user server? [05:54:00] *** teknoprep has joined #opensolaris [05:54:12] *** tagx_ has joined #opensolaris [05:54:13] <teknoprep> i forgot what i did last time i didn't have a resolv.conf [05:54:17] <teknoprep> what do i need to fix this / [05:56:53] <moazamraja> u write a resolv.conf [05:56:58] <moazamraja> put your dns info in there [05:57:18] <moazamraja> domain mydomain.com [05:57:25] <moazamraja> nameserver 1.2.3.4 [05:57:27] <moazamraja> nameserver 1.2.3.5 [05:57:29] <teknoprep> yeah [05:57:31] <teknoprep> that doens't work [05:57:32] <moazamraja> search mydomain.com [05:57:40] <moazamraja> edit your /etc/nsswitch.conf [05:57:43] <teknoprep> i thought i needed to do something with /etc/nsswitch.conf [05:58:07] <moazamraja> the line u need to change, [05:58:07] <moazamraja> hosts: files dns [05:58:16] <moazamraja> it'll just say 'files' for now probably [05:58:18] <moazamraja> change to above [05:58:31] <CIA-27> John.Zolnowsky at Sun dot COM: 6777169 SUNWopenssl-libraries has broken depend file [05:58:58] *** KOHJU is now known as kohju [05:59:01] *** linma has quit IRC [05:59:04] *** master_of_master has quit IRC [06:00:37] *** gassti has joined #opensolaris [06:02:13] <moazamraja> ok..i've got a doozy of a problem [06:02:23] <moazamraja> i have a ZFS pool already mounted called /bucket [06:02:29] <jbk> more cowbell! [06:02:32] *** master_of_master has joined #opensolaris [06:02:32] <StayTuned> whoa - amp-dev is 600mb [06:02:37] <teknoprep> ok one more question [06:02:40] <moazamraja> now, i'm plugging in an external drive which ALSO has a ZFS pool called /bucket [06:02:53] <moazamraja> when I do a 'zpool import' [06:02:56] <moazamraja> it shows both are online [06:02:57] <teknoprep> how do i install iscsitgtd or enable it ? [06:03:04] <jbk> you can do a zpool import -R [06:04:42] <moazamraja> jbk: odd, zpool list still only shows the first pool [06:04:49] <moazamraja> did zpool import -R/mnt [06:07:04] <teknoprep> ? [06:08:48] <teknoprep> is there a package repository for pkgadd ? like in BSD ? [06:09:57] <moazamraja> yksinaisyyteni: The iscsitgtd daemon is started by the service management [06:09:58] <moazamraja> facility, smf(5), under the service identifier: [06:09:58] <moazamraja> svc:/system/iscsi/iscsitgtd [06:11:11] <StayTuned> is it possible to install ALSA in OpenSolaris? [06:11:53] *** gassti has left #opensolaris [06:12:16] <teknoprep> oh great [06:12:23] <teknoprep> i have no real idea what that means [06:12:35] <teknoprep> svccfg then what? [06:13:42] <teknoprep> svcadm: Pattern 'svc:/system/iscsi/iscsitgtd' doesn't match any instances [06:14:36] *** teknoprep has quit IRC [06:14:54] *** teknoprep has joined #opensolaris [06:14:59] <teknoprep> svcadm: Pattern 'svc:/system/iscsitgt:default' doesn't match any instances [06:16:15] <teknoprep> svcadm: Pattern 'iscsitgt' doesn't match any instances [06:16:19] <teknoprep> i love this [06:16:23] <teknoprep> nothing [06:18:28] <teknoprep> ???? [06:18:42] <teknoprep> iscsi target is not installed on my machine.. how would i install this? [06:19:15] *** linma has joined #opensolaris [06:20:45] <tCzern_> anyone working with the Nov2008 release? [06:20:52] *** sunny has joined #opensolaris [06:21:32] *** teknoprep has quit IRC [06:22:52] *** LordIllpalazo has quit IRC [06:23:10] <moazamraja> Tekni: 'svcs -a |grep scsi [06:23:12] <moazamraja> ' [06:23:15] *** Gekz has quit IRC [06:24:14] <moazamraja> tekno: svcs -a |grep scsi [06:24:36] <moazamraja> g'damn, so many phucking ppl with the same damn nick almost [06:24:46] *** Gekz has joined #OpenSolaris [06:25:22] *** teknoprep has joined #opensolaris [06:25:37] <moazamraja> teknoprep: svcs -a |grep scsi [06:25:55] <teknoprep> disabled 23:42:04 svc:/network/iscsi_initiator:default [06:26:01] <teknoprep> i don't have it installed [06:26:21] <StayTuned> what is IDT? [06:26:33] <teknoprep> ID10T ? [06:27:17] <moazamraja> teknoprep: OpenSolaris b101 (which is what i'm running), seems to have it by default, tho it's disabled [06:27:30] <moazamraja> [~]$ svcs -a |grep scsi [06:27:30] <moazamraja> disabled Nov_19 svc:/network/iscsi_initiator:default [06:27:30] <moazamraja> disabled Nov_19 svc:/system/iscsitgt:default [06:27:31] <teknoprep> i am using 99 end user [06:27:37] <moazamraja> end user ? [06:27:48] <teknoprep> its not the full install [06:27:49] <teknoprep> which sucks [06:27:58] <teknoprep> becuase now i have to probably go back and reinstall everything [06:28:01] <teknoprep> to get this crap to work [06:28:26] <teknoprep> i mean come on... is there no way to install this after the OS is installed ? [06:28:29] <teknoprep> thats just crazy [06:29:41] <teknoprep> fuck this [06:29:44] <teknoprep> i am reinstalling [06:29:47] <teknoprep> you guys are fucking worthles [06:29:54] <moazamraja> wow [06:29:57] <moazamraja> you are an asshole [06:30:00] <moazamraja> and a moron [06:30:04] <moazamraja> that's your fuckin problem [06:30:05] <moazamraja> http://pkg.opensolaris.org/status [06:30:11] <moazamraja> the package is there, ass munch [06:30:14] <moazamraja> learn to fucking google [06:30:17] <moazamraja> shitbrick [06:30:39] <moazamraja> dont blame other people for your own g'damn incompetence [06:31:01] <moazamraja> someone op me. [06:31:07] <moazamraja> i swear.. [06:31:22] <moazamraja> here fucking trying to help you with your basic ass questions, being polite and everything [06:31:28] <moazamraja> and you're gonna throw that shit back at the channel [06:31:32] <moazamraja> go die [06:31:36] <g4lt-work> moazamraja: be nice \, it's not every dday that someone provides enough amusement as to want to install Advanced LINUX Sound Architecture on solaris ;P [06:31:55] <StayTuned> I just installed amp-dev [06:32:21] <StayTuned> would that have created DTT in my opt folder? [06:32:43] <teknoprep> look dude... i think my first question was how to isntall it.. not enable it [06:32:58] <teknoprep> IRC is get the run around.. its either search on google... or do this instead [06:32:59] <teknoprep> skrew it [06:33:45] <boggy`> teknoprep, we're not worthless, you are. maybe if you were not so fuckin lazy to do research you would know wtf you where doing. EVERYTHING is documented for solaris and opensolaris [06:34:27] <teknoprep> dude... everything on solaris is great... except installing packages [06:34:37] <StayTuned> ah cool [06:34:42] <StayTuned> DTrace Toolkit [06:34:54] <StayTuned> its a series of scripts [06:34:56] <teknoprep> i have nothing good to say about trying to install something i didn't get off of the CD [06:34:58] <teknoprep> or DVD [06:35:06] <moazamraja> everything about cars is great, cept learning to drive em. [06:36:14] <boggy`> so why not take 20mins, download a full iso and run pkg update-image [06:36:20] <boggy`> problems solved [06:38:23] <teknoprep> i don't pkg install on my system [06:38:30] <teknoprep> i tryed to install using pkg [06:38:33] <teknoprep> its not installed [06:38:36] <teknoprep> i am good tho [06:38:44] <teknoprep> i am re-installing with the FULL 7gig install [06:38:53] <teknoprep> which takes like 2 hours.. who knows why [06:39:26] <boggy`> so download SUNWipkg [06:39:38] <teknoprep> its too late [06:39:41] <boggy`> ur wasting ur time with the 7gig install [06:39:47] <teknoprep> really ? [06:39:48] <boggy`> u have to upgrade anyway [06:39:49] <boggy`> yes [06:39:54] <boggy`> thats what im trying to tell u [06:39:58] <teknoprep> every time i come in here i am told to install the 7gig install [06:40:15] <boggy`> get the 2008 iso, install sunwipkg in the package manager [06:40:23] <boggy`> then do pkg update-image [06:40:31] <boggy`> everything will be up to date and work properly [06:40:38] <teknoprep> i don't have X [06:40:45] <teknoprep> it won't run on this system [06:40:54] <boggy`> ah even better [06:40:59] <teknoprep> oh [06:41:02] <boggy`> what type of machine is it [06:41:04] <teknoprep> ok i have the ISO [06:41:07] <boggy`> server? [06:41:10] <teknoprep> rackable phantom 4 [06:41:16] <teknoprep> Rackable is the name of the company [06:41:29] <teknoprep> yes its a server so i prefer not to run X [06:42:09] <boggy`> so install solaris 10 instead of opensolaris [06:42:32] <teknoprep> i copy the ISO to the server.. mount it.. and then install sunwipkg ? [06:42:36] <boggy`> thats my recommendation anyway some ppl would disagree i'm sure but run solaris 10 or trusted solaris [06:42:44] <boggy`> sure u can do that [06:42:44] <StayTuned> what is the command to boot apache with defaults? [06:43:02] <StayTuned> I have amp-dev installed [06:43:02] <boggy`> /etc/init.d/apache start [06:43:04] <boggy`> usually [06:43:05] <boggy`> heh [06:43:10] <StayTuned> thanks [06:43:14] <boggy`> yep [06:43:40] <teknoprep> how do i install sunwipkg once i have this iso mounted? [06:44:00] <teknoprep> pkgadd -d /path/to/sunwipkg [06:44:38] *** branesks has quit IRC [06:45:39] <boggy`> well u have no path for ipkg [06:45:41] <boggy`> u need to install it [06:46:45] <boggy`> just use pkg -d SUNWipkg [06:48:38] *** boyd_ has joined #opensolaris [06:48:38] <teknoprep> i don't have the command pkg [06:49:01] *** sunny has quit IRC [06:50:51] *** gerard13 has joined #opensolaris [06:51:50] <boggy`> pkgadd [06:51:53] <boggy`> sorry [06:52:28] <teknoprep> its all good [06:52:41] <boggy`> trying to type, finish a spreadsheet and get stoned while helping the wife prepare thanksgiving all becomes a bit 2 much [06:52:49] <boggy`> i think i'll just stick to typing and smoking :D [06:52:52] <teknoprep> i didn't have anything inside of /var/spool/pkg [06:53:01] <teknoprep> also i am just going to reinstall [06:53:03] *** boyd has quit IRC [06:53:04] *** Triskelios has joined #opensolaris [06:53:04] <teknoprep> full 7gig version [06:53:09] <teknoprep> it has everything i need already [06:53:18] * boggy` shrugs [06:53:22] <boggy`> do what u think is best [06:53:29] <boggy`> u'll still have to update tho just keep that in mind [06:53:43] <teknoprep> i HAVE to update ? [06:54:07] <boggy`> unless EVERYTHING works perfectly no [06:54:10] <boggy`> but my guess is it wont [06:54:11] <boggy`> so yes [06:54:12] <boggy`> update [06:54:25] <teknoprep> well actually everything works perfectly elsewhere with this version [06:54:38] <boggy`> ok [06:54:42] <teknoprep> have a few of these server up and running as iSCSI SAN's for VMware elsewhere [06:54:47] <boggy`> u should still have all the newest packages tho [06:54:50] <teknoprep> i just stick them on a private VLAN for SAN storage [06:55:01] <teknoprep> if it works why touch it ? [06:55:03] <boggy`> especially if ur starting with a fresh install/machine [06:55:06] <teknoprep> unless its a security threat [06:55:08] <boggy`> uh i dunno [06:55:10] <boggy`> security threat? [06:55:11] <boggy`> hm [06:55:20] <boggy`> bugs [06:55:23] <boggy`> thats another good reason [06:55:25] <boggy`> :/ [06:55:30] <teknoprep> well there are no bugs if its working [06:55:35] <teknoprep> forever [06:55:42] * boggy` shrugs [06:55:47] <boggy`> ur machine [06:55:54] <boggy`> do as u please [06:55:55] <teknoprep> i am only using this for zfs, zpool, iscsi target [06:56:06] <boggy`> ah [06:56:09] <boggy`> rite on [06:56:16] <boggy`> then why use 7gig install [06:56:26] <boggy`> that's pretty pointless then [06:56:31] <boggy`> waste of space [06:58:29] <teknoprep> i agree [06:58:41] <teknoprep> i was thinking of going through and selecting the package i need [06:58:45] <teknoprep> but i couldn't find SSH [06:58:49] <teknoprep> on the minimal install [06:58:53] <teknoprep> i found everything else [06:58:59] <teknoprep> ssh-server [06:59:30] *** orinoko has joined #opensolaris [07:02:27] <orinoko> could anyone speculate on why i might only be able to connect to a daemon using localhost, but not if i specify the ip of a local interface? [07:03:33] <orinoko> e.g. the user can connect with telnet 127.0.0.1 <port> but not with telnet <ip> <port> [07:05:02] <teknoprep> firewall ? [07:05:17] <teknoprep> interface not up [07:05:20] <teknoprep> ifconfig -a [07:05:30] <teknoprep> see if your ip address and subnet mask are right [07:05:33] <teknoprep> then try [07:05:43] <teknoprep> ping "something on the subnet" [07:06:34] *** pumpkin_ has quit IRC [07:06:51] <orinoko> iterface is good, ip and subnet mask are good, i can ping other hosts on the subnet fine [07:09:26] *** teknomega has joined #opensolaris [07:09:55] <orinoko> don't think there will be firewall issues as packets shouldn't ever go out onto the network (i'm trying everything locally) [07:10:27] *** teknomega has quit IRC [07:11:44] <anilg> Does anyone have an idea why 'zoneadm -z zonename clone base_zone' would use copy the files rather than clone? [07:14:19] *** biafra has joined #opensolaris [07:15:42] <StayTuned> I am setting up Tomcat - I have installed sample.war as a first sample app [07:15:51] <StayTuned> I cannot see it [07:16:19] *** bourgois has joined #opensolaris [07:16:22] <StayTuned> do I need to release 8080? [07:16:43] *** jub has joined #opensolaris [07:17:20] <StayTuned> better yet - what is a good GUI frontend for a firewall for OS? [07:18:01] *** teknoprep has quit IRC [07:19:13] *** Joerg has quit IRC [07:19:20] *** orinoko has left #opensolaris [07:19:26] *** biafra has quit IRC [07:22:33] *** mikefut has joined #opensolaris [07:23:02] <boggy`> StayTuned, u can install webmin for gui system administration [07:26:26] *** trygvis has quit IRC [07:34:06] *** axisys_ has joined #opensolaris [07:35:13] *** Joerg has joined #opensolaris [07:35:22] *** axisys_ has quit IRC [07:35:46] <StayTuned> ok now I'm confused [07:36:12] <StayTuned> thanks boggy [07:38:00] *** biafra has joined #opensolaris [07:38:05] <boggy`> np [07:39:46] <StayTuned> boggy - what is the sun Audio package for the AC`97 chip? [07:39:55] <StayTuned> I know there is one [07:40:03] <StayTuned> because I got it working once before [07:41:28] <StayTuned> trying out webmin now [07:42:53] *** Gekz has quit IRC [07:43:26] <boggy`> its not in the package manager? [07:43:33] *** jub has quit IRC [07:43:45] <StayTuned> I just don't know what its called [07:43:49] *** Gekz has joined #OpenSolaris [07:44:03] <boggy`> what version are u running paste ur uname -a [07:44:26] <boggy`> so load package manager and go into the audio section [07:45:08] <StayTuned> SunOS noisecontrol 5.11 snv_86 i86pc i386 i86pc Solaris [07:46:59] <boggy`> ok check ur device driver utility [07:47:06] <boggy`> does it show ur sound? [07:47:48] <StayTuned> hmmm... [07:47:56] <StayTuned> well - trying to log into webmin [07:48:17] <boggy`> applications > system tools [07:48:24] <boggy`> for ddu [07:48:42] <boggy`> u might just need a codec fix [07:48:44] <boggy`> for no sound [07:49:17] <StayTuned> I don't have ddu under system tools [07:49:50] <StayTuned> is there a command line to check audio? [07:52:56] <boggy`> dmesg and u can look for it [07:54:23] *** biafra has quit IRC [07:56:13] *** Dar has joined #opensolaris [07:57:08] *** hecki_ has joined #opensolaris [07:57:47] *** anilg has quit IRC [08:00:14] *** kohju is now known as KOHJU [08:04:19] *** anilg has joined #opensolaris [08:04:35] *** zhongyuan has left #opensolaris [08:06:42] *** Tobbe is now known as Tobbe|autoaway [08:10:29] *** hecki has quit IRC [08:10:31] *** sophokles has joined #opensolaris [08:10:48] *** sophokles has left #opensolaris [08:15:28] *** xRaich[o]2x has joined #opensolaris [08:18:42] *** luna1 has joined #opensolaris [08:23:16] *** Chipdancer_ has quit IRC [08:23:55] *** kim0 has joined #opensolaris [08:36:34] *** noyb has quit IRC [08:39:22] *** Gman has quit IRC [08:42:22] *** noyb has joined #opensolaris [08:46:00] *** biafra has joined #opensolaris [08:46:53] *** orinoko has joined #opensolaris [08:48:17] <orinoko> on host myserver, why can you do this 'telnet localhost 25' but not this 'telnet myserver 25'? [08:48:59] <orinoko> assuming myserver is in dns, dns is configured correctly, and the interface it points to is plumbed, up, etc, behaving as normal? [08:49:17] <xRaich[o]2x> orinoko: can you ping the ip? [08:49:23] <orinoko> yup [08:49:29] <xRaich[o]2x> is nsswitch.conf set up right? [08:49:45] <orinoko> hosts is files dns [08:49:53] <yksinaisyyteni> orinoko: shall we guess why telnet doesn't work, or are you planning to tell us at some point? [08:50:16] <orinoko> it doesn't make any difference whether telnet is enabled or not [08:50:23] <orinoko> same behaviour [08:50:33] <yksinaisyyteni> huh? [08:50:37] <yksinaisyyteni> < orinoko> on host myserver, why can you do this 'telnet localhost 25' but not this 'telnet myserver 25'? [08:50:42] <yksinaisyyteni> why can't you do 'telnet myserver 25'? [08:50:50] <orinoko> connection refused [08:50:58] <yksinaisyyteni> then sendmail is only listening on localhost [08:52:10] <orinoko> i'm getting the same behaviour for a java app that a user is running... doesn't seem to be any config saying listen only on localhost [08:52:28] <yksinaisyyteni> you're looking in the wrong place then [08:52:33] <yksinaisyyteni> i don't remember where that's set off hand.. [08:56:50] *** phimic has joined #opensolaris [08:59:37] <palowoda> Awe man if twincest was online one of them would have remembered. [09:00:27] *** DTEIT has joined #opensolaris [09:01:40] <DTEIT> morning [09:05:31] *** carl- has joined #opensolaris [09:05:42] *** PersonXXL has joined #opensolaris [09:05:51] *** mui has joined #opensolaris [09:06:08] <mui> how can I obtain svn_102 most feasible way right now? [09:06:16] <orinoko> yksinaisyyteni: if i truss the listening java process and try to connect to it using the hosts ip address, absolutely nothing happens which makes me think it is not the process itself refusing the connection [09:06:20] <mui> are there any images available [09:06:23] <CosmicDJ> solaris is "secure by default" now, most stuff is only listening on localhost [09:06:27] <yksinaisyyteni> java? [09:06:41] <yksinaisyyteni> oh, you're not talking about sendmail anymore [09:06:47] <e^ipi> mui: you can't obtain 102 at all, it was removed [09:06:51] <CosmicDJ> that's sounds more like a firewall/port filtering issue [09:06:53] <mui> oh :/ [09:06:55] <e^ipi> there was a big nasty bug [09:06:55] <mui> how about 103? [09:07:00] <e^ipi> it's on dlc [09:07:07] <mui> hum? [09:07:12] *** tCzern_ has quit IRC [09:07:23] <e^ipi> opensolaris.org/os/downloads [09:07:44] <orinoko> yksinaisyyteni: unfortunately, yes... it's a payment gateway library our developers use [09:07:45] <palowoda> What announced yesterday? [09:08:35] <e^ipi> something was announced yesterday ? [09:08:42] <palowoda> 103 [09:09:00] <e^ipi> oh, that was a couple days ago i thought [09:09:14] <palowoda> I guess the rush is gone. [09:10:31] *** orinoko has left #opensolaris [09:10:43] <palowoda> Rembering the tune from MotoCycle. [09:11:19] *** kaleb has quit IRC [09:13:24] <palowoda> orinoko: Really why don't you ask the java questions on the java lists? One would expect to find more narrowed information related to the topic like that. [09:13:28] *** hajma has quit IRC [09:16:09] *** Chipdancer has joined #opensolaris [09:17:07] <StayTuned> is there a way to check the password for webmin without using webmin? [09:18:02] *** jub has joined #opensolaris [09:18:50] *** photon_chac has quit IRC [09:20:04] *** mikefut has quit IRC [09:20:24] *** LordIllpalazo has joined #opensolaris [09:23:07] <e^ipi> we ship webmin? [09:23:21] <palowoda> Last I heard. [09:23:23] <palowoda> Yes [09:23:31] <palowoda> In sfe [09:23:51] <e^ipi> trippy [09:23:58] <palowoda> Kind of kludgee though. [09:24:05] <e^ipi> well, it's webmin [09:24:43] *** Joerg has quit IRC [09:24:52] * evocallaghan notices boyd's still on his feet. Very good sir. [09:25:29] *** LordIllpalazo has quit IRC [09:25:35] <StayTuned> thanks [09:27:57] *** esaxe has quit IRC [09:28:11] *** esaxe has joined #opensolaris [09:29:48] <palowoda> StayTuned: I guess you found the auto password verify script. [09:34:51] <StayTuned> no - I just uninstalled webmin [09:35:22] <StayTuned> palowoda - how can I launch tomcat so I can try to install this opengrok thing I am reading about? [09:36:09] <e^ipi> i just used glassfish [09:36:23] <e^ipi> you run a script, and then it's working [09:36:24] <StayTuned> I haven't installed glassfish yet [09:36:32] <e^ipi> super easy, a monkey can do it [09:36:44] <StayTuned> I have it on a USB 2.0 drive they sent [09:36:52] <e^ipi> given, tomcat's pretty simple too [09:37:10] <palowoda> I would only run Tomcat on a 3.0 USB drive. [09:37:32] <StayTuned> no - I have a server [09:37:41] <StayTuned> glassfish is contained on the USB stick [09:37:55] *** Erwann has joined #opensolaris [09:38:14] <palowoda> I have glassfish in my micro controller toliet. [09:38:47] <g4lt-work> I'd suggest bleach [09:38:47] <StayTuned> lol [09:39:04] <StayTuned> I am running glassfishv2 installer [09:39:28] <palowoda> Not that has anything to do with opensolaris. [09:40:27] <StayTuned> I may end up re-installing the OS [09:40:41] <StayTuned> I tend to do that a lot [09:40:44] <palowoda> You want a star? [09:41:12] <StayTuned> not necessary [09:41:13] *** zhongyuan has joined #opensolaris [09:41:53] *** zhongyuan has left #opensolaris [09:44:16] <e^ipi> that's silly, i just fix my problems [09:44:33] <coffman> morning [09:44:33] <e^ipi> reinstall isn't a solution unless your problem is "i just took delivery of a new machine" [09:45:06] <coffman> i got a problem, i put a harddisk into a new usb enclosure, it was part of a pool [09:45:16] <coffman> now its und another path [09:46:04] <coffman> not c2t0d0, its c3t0d0 now [09:46:13] <palowoda> because? [09:46:24] *** nitrile has quit IRC [09:49:28] *** morettoni has joined #opensolaris [09:49:31] <e^ipi> so? [09:49:56] <e^ipi> is it continuing to work? [09:50:27] <coffman> nope, zfs fails to see it [09:50:29] *** hsp has joined #opensolaris [09:50:35] <e^ipi> zfs ought to just see the disk's UUID and keep using it regardless of what USB port 3-card monty you do [09:50:48] <palowoda> See the new drive? [09:50:59] <e^ipi> oh, this is a new drive? [09:51:04] <coffman> nope [09:51:16] <coffman> its the old one, pool has only this drive [09:51:16] <e^ipi> did you give ZFS the full disk [09:51:19] <e^ipi> or just a partition [09:51:23] *** anilg has quit IRC [09:51:24] <coffman> full disk [09:51:27] <palowoda> Wath changed? [09:51:45] *** KOHJU is now known as kohju [09:51:50] <coffman> the usb enclosure [09:52:08] <coffman> means, the usb to ide chip [09:52:13] <palowoda> And you imported the new drive? [09:52:34] <coffman> its not a new drive [09:52:43] <palowoda> I'm confused. [09:52:56] <e^ipi> he had a usb enclosure with some disks in it [09:53:04] <e^ipi> then he got a different one [09:53:13] <e^ipi> same disks, new enclosure [09:53:31] <coffman> the enclosure was faulty, so i replaced it [09:53:42] <coffman> the disk itself is fine [09:53:47] <coffman> and still the old one [09:53:50] <e^ipi> an import ought to take care of it [09:53:54] <palowoda> Ah so the usb driver is reporting back it's not the same device. [09:54:09] <coffman> seems so [09:54:27] <e^ipi> doesn't matter if it's the same device [09:54:33] <palowoda> Same usb port? [09:54:41] <oxygene> usb devices have serial numbers, not sure if solaris parses these (standard says, it should) [09:54:46] *** tsoome has quit IRC [09:54:47] <oxygene> still - the ondisk uuid should be the same [09:54:48] <e^ipi> no, and no. [09:55:02] <coffman> palowoda: should not mather [09:55:05] <e^ipi> doesn't matter how you swap your disks around, there's an ondisk signature that zfs sees [09:55:18] <palowoda> Just asking. [09:57:02] <palowoda> So what was the issue? [09:57:23] <coffman> the pool is offline because it thinks the drive is missing [09:58:01] <StayTuned> once I have glassfish how do I use it? [09:58:19] <StayTuned> moreover what exactly is glassfish? [09:59:58] <palowoda> coffman: Just curious which version of opensolaris is this? [10:00:48] <palowoda> StayTuned: You need a new career. [10:00:58] <coffman> sxce snv_101 [10:01:16] <coffman> StayTuned: http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=what+is+glassfish [10:02:05] *** trygvis has joined #opensolaris [10:02:55] <palowoda> coffman: Seems almost like this is a bug. Something like this should be brought up on the zfs-disscuss list. [10:03:06] *** kohju is now known as KOHJU [10:04:56] <coffman> well [10:05:00] <coffman> i could resolve it [10:05:08] *** PersonXXL has quit IRC [10:05:14] *** derchris has quit IRC [10:05:15] <coffman> i did a export of the pool and imported it [10:05:19] *** derchris has joined #opensolaris [10:05:33] <coffman> strange that this didnt work automatic [10:05:41] <palowoda> But you didn't mention that before. I thought you would expect it to be normal. [10:06:04] <g4lt-work> surprised you spell "automatically" as "automatic" P [10:06:20] <palowoda> I can't spell. [10:06:29] <StayTuned> hmmm... windows interop [10:06:30] <palowoda> So I'm correct. [10:06:33] <StayTuned> cool stuff [10:07:08] <g4lt-work> windows interop? isn'tSUNWspci3 good enough? ;P [10:07:16] <palowoda> I can only spell when it's light outside. It's dark now. [10:07:37] <StayTuned> I have no idea - I'm just looking at dev links [10:07:50] <StayTuned> https://wsit.dev.java.net/ [10:08:13] <palowoda> g4lt-work: It's EOLD. [10:08:32] <palowoda> End of Life, Dead. [10:08:37] <g4lt-work> not SUNWspci3. 1 and 2, yes [10:08:52] <palowoda> Prey. [10:08:52] <g4lt-work> spci3 is the p4-clone [10:09:02] <coffman> palowoda: i did that just now [10:09:19] <StayTuned> Q: What is Project GlassFish? GlassFish is the name for the open source development project for building a Java EE 5 application server. It is based on the source code for Sun Java System Application Server PE 9 donated by Sun Microsystems and TopLink persistence code donated by Oracle. [10:09:23] <palowoda> No p4 chips unless you dig in the trash can. [10:09:43] *** hajma has joined #opensolaris [10:09:45] <asyd> glassfish <3 [10:10:02] <g4lt-work> right, but you can still get indiana for it, yet you have to fucking have a niagra on sparc :( [10:10:08] <StayTuned> I'd like to try OpenGrok [10:10:33] <g4lt-work> bitter? me? [10:10:54] <coffman> g4lt-work: bare with me, im not a nativ speaker, its 10 am, i almost lost some data and havent had any coffee yet [10:11:08] <palowoda> g4lt-work: No not bitter. Just the market hasn't come to your ideas. [10:11:28] <palowoda> Not that your known for market advise. [10:12:01] <palowoda> Maybe your ahead of your time. [10:12:04] <g4lt-work> my idea: kill off ia32 support before they force sparc to sun4v+ [10:12:24] <oxygene> g4lt-work: huh? [10:12:47] *** jub has quit IRC [10:12:48] <CosmicDJ> yes good idea, opensolaris for amd64/sun4v only [10:13:11] <g4lt-work> oxygene: reald the caiman-discuss list. the indiana installer requires sun4v with 2G of memory [10:13:18] <oxygene> g4lt-work: well.. indiana.. [10:13:20] *** jub has joined #opensolaris [10:13:32] <oxygene> g4lt-work: the more ridiculous it gets, the better [10:13:58] <palowoda> If you buy a Sun based box they will pay your morgage. [10:14:16] <palowoda> Sparc only right? [10:14:29] <palowoda> I love hope. [10:14:50] *** abisen has joined #opensolaris [10:16:08] <CosmicDJ> sometimes you just have to dump the crap from the past... [10:16:24] <yksinaisyyteni> CosmicDJ: hmm, SPARC64 is sun4v now? [10:16:51] <CosmicDJ> no but it's a FuSi thing ;) [10:17:13] <yksinaisyyteni> but all sun's new servers (except for the small niagara stuff) is sparc64 now [10:17:40] <g4lt-work> indiana sure as hell isn't aimed at a m9000 [10:17:53] <palowoda> Who important cares? [10:17:54] <yksinaisyyteni> what about M3000 or whatever the 2U one is? [10:18:10] <g4lt-work> that's the one thing most @sun.com HAS agree, indiana is entry-level [10:18:26] <quasi> and a bloody waste of resources [10:20:17] *** gnut has joined #opensolaris [10:20:17] <palowoda> Somebody stand in the train tracks. [10:20:51] <gnut> hi all [10:21:30] <gnut> I'm having a weird issue. one of my laptops (snv_99) now thinks it has no space left on disk found. but a zfs list doesn't show things adding up. [10:21:58] <gnut> I can't track down that missing data, and with 0 bytes, I can't boot into anything but maintenance mode. [10:22:23] <g4lt-work> what does du say? [10:22:29] <coffman> GAR [10:22:47] <abisen> in opensolaris is there a way to install apache (inside a zone) i cant seem to find the name of the packahe for plg [10:22:47] <gnut> df -h says the same thing [10:22:49] <abisen> pkg [10:23:15] <coffman> now that box did panic [10:23:32] *** tsoome has joined #opensolaris [10:23:59] <gnut> running du now [10:24:43] <palowoda> coffman: you did have a sysdump you can submit now right? [10:27:46] *** mikefut has joined #opensolaris [10:29:22] <gnut> I wonder... could it be due to a hardware disk failure? and some parts are not working so zfs claims they don't exist? [10:29:38] *** Gekz has quit IRC [10:29:41] <gnut> how can I tell? format -> analyze doesn't show anything when I run it. [10:30:22] *** StayTuned has quit IRC [10:30:45] <palowoda> gnut: You have hardware failures? [10:34:11] <gnut> palowoda: I don't know. I just have my rpool say it has 23 GB, but when you add up all the entries, it adds up to 12 GB, so I'm missing around 10GB. [10:34:27] <gnut> I can't boot because there is not space to write log files and things go into maintenance. [10:34:45] <gnut> I want to rule out hardware failures. How can I test for those? [10:36:40] <palowoda> I don't know if zfs can magically lose disk space. Maybe you don't know where the disk space is going. [10:36:45] *** tsoome1 has joined #opensolaris [10:37:23] <gnut> palowoda: I don't :)... That's why I'm trying to find it. [10:37:35] <tsoome1> why do you think there is any failure?;) [10:37:37] <gnut> I added up the entries under the REFER column [10:37:58] <gnut> tsoome1: because it happened pretty suddenly while I was trying to burn a CD using nautilus's CD burner. [10:38:37] <palowoda> Thank God you where not watching a movie when burning the CD and checking your disk space. [10:38:43] <tsoome1> will it create some (temporary) files? [10:38:47] <gnut> I've tried for a long time to try to find reasons, and just want to rule out HW... maybe I'm just being paranoid [10:39:10] <gnut> tsoome1: no... I can't even run rm to delete stuff. [10:39:26] <gnut> occasionally, it'll free up 15k, then I can rm stuff, but then it'll go back to 0 bytes free. [10:39:27] <palowoda> Damn how big is your drive? [10:39:34] <tsoome1> just reboot then [10:39:35] <gnut> 75 GB [10:39:47] <gnut> with 23 GB in rpool and 50 GB in my /home [10:39:57] <gnut> rebooting doesn't help. it puts me into maintenance mode [10:39:58] *** MattMan has joined #opensolaris [10:40:05] <tsoome1> there is some process writing in your filesystem, thats all [10:40:15] <gnut> oh [10:40:21] <gnut> and it persists through reboots? [10:40:23] *** hajma_ has joined #opensolaris [10:40:29] <tsoome1> shouldnt:D [10:40:31] <gnut> so if I can kill that process, it'll clear things up? [10:40:41] <palowoda> How big is your rpool? [10:40:45] <gnut> 23 GB [10:40:53] <palowoda> No other rpools? [10:40:59] <gnut> only two pools [10:41:10] <palowoda> two 23gig rpools? [10:41:12] <gnut> rpool, and pool (for home) [10:41:14] <gnut> no. [10:41:23] <gnut> rpool is 23 GB, pool (for data and home) is 50 GB. [10:41:24] <tsoome1> well, ok, if you cant boot from hdd, boot from cd/net and find what is taking the space in your rpool [10:41:37] <gnut> I can boot from CD and get into single shell [10:41:47] <gnut> I can boot from HDD into maintenance mode, too. [10:41:53] *** TheNoxier has joined #opensolaris [10:41:56] <tsoome1> you can also use dtrace to find what apps are making io [10:41:58] <gnut> and I'm trying to find out where the space is being used up. [10:42:03] *** hajma has quit IRC [10:42:21] <gnut> hmm... yeah. I will try dtrace. I am just not so familar with the dtrace scripting facilities. [10:42:32] <palowoda> Oh you just asked the question before understanding where the disk space is used. [10:42:36] *** Gekz has joined #OpenSolaris [10:43:08] <tsoome1> there are loads in /usr/demo/dtrace [10:43:18] <gnut> tsoome1: thanks. let me look there. [10:43:21] <tsoome1> like iosnoop.d etc [10:43:52] <gnut> palowoda: I've been searching for a while on where the disk space is being used. I asked because I was hoping someone could point me in the rigth direction on where to look. [10:44:16] <tsoome1> any snapshots taken? [10:44:31] <palowoda> snapshoots don't take that much. [10:44:38] *** hajma__ has joined #opensolaris [10:44:44] <palowoda> How much are we talking about? [10:44:53] <gnut> no snapshots [10:45:25] *** Gekz_ has joined #OpenSolaris [10:45:33] <tsoome1> anyhow, if you boot from cd/net, zpool import rpool; you should be able to find out whats in there [10:46:09] <palowoda> As normal check /var/crash and logs. [10:46:19] <tsoome1> also, doing this way, there shouldnt be really any IO going on on your rpool, unless you are initiating some [10:46:48] <roterra> du -adk / | sort -rn | tail -100 [10:47:04] *** kaleb has joined #opensolaris [10:47:08] <roterra> that's my starting point when looking for stuff to clean out [10:47:29] <gnut> roterra: okay. [10:47:38] <palowoda> Don't forget to chek the porn directory. [10:47:43] <tsoome1> :D [10:47:53] <gnut> hehehe [10:47:55] <gnut> shhhhh [10:48:02] <gnut> i don't think those bytes exist [10:48:03] <roterra> that's the reason zfs was created. I'm certain of it [10:50:13] *** MattMan_ has joined #opensolaris [10:50:17] *** mikearthur|work has joined #opensolaris [10:50:27] <palowoda> zfs by some admins is consider filesystem porn. [10:50:53] <gnut> hmm... /var/crash had a 550 MB vmcore.0 [10:50:55] <gnut> i deleted that [10:51:20] <palowoda> Crap you didn't even know why you had a crash. [10:51:23] <gnut> it doesn't quite explain the 10 Gb difference... let me see if this will put my system out of maintenance mode [10:52:00] <gnut> palowoda: off course I did... I didn't know it would save a big core [10:52:19] <palowoda> What ever happend to the other rpool? [10:52:29] <gnut> I only have one rpool [10:52:34] <gnut> is that what you're asking? [10:52:45] <palowoda> Oh I thought you had two sorry. [10:52:57] <yksinaisyyteni> he has two pools, but only one rpool [10:53:03] <gnut> yeah... one pool for data [10:53:14] *** tsoome has quit IRC [10:53:38] <gnut> I have a bunch of stuff in /var/tmp which I can't seem to delete [10:53:51] <gnut> things like wscon-0:xxxxx [10:53:52] *** silk has quit IRC [10:53:57] <gnut> or gvfs-xxxxx [10:54:02] <gnut> etc... [10:54:17] *** hsp has quit IRC [10:54:38] <palowoda> Oh brother just don't start deleting files, find out where the disk space is being used. [10:55:10] *** vedm has joined #opensolaris [10:55:43] <gnut> heheh... [10:55:44] <gnut> yeah [10:55:46] <gnut> i'm looking... [10:56:05] *** jub has quit IRC [10:56:05] *** jub has joined #opensolaris [10:56:46] <palowoda> Wait let me delete my porn files on your system before you notice.... :) [10:56:51] *** MattMan has quit IRC [10:56:53] <gnut> heheheh [10:57:10] *** hajma_ has quit IRC [10:59:18] <codestr0m1> good morning pansies [11:00:15] <seanmcg> you a dandelion then codestr0m1 ?-) Morning. [11:00:53] *** codestr0m1 is now known as codestr0m [11:00:58] <CIA-27> Stephen Hanson <Stephen.Hanson at Sun dot COM>: 6774936 ON build can fail because libtopo depends on libzfs [11:01:29] <codestr0m> seanmcg: you didn't see Madagascar 2 [11:03:52] *** perlmongo has joined #opensolaris [11:04:37] *** cmihai has joined #OpenSolaris [11:10:07] <seanmcg> codestr0m, oh ya the little ferret thing, camp as can be too.. [11:10:26] <gnut> hmm... after deleting that core in the crash directory, it seems the machine now boots... yippee! [11:10:47] <gnut> what's a good way to let the machine bypass the lengthy wait for the network when youu have no ethernet plug connected? [11:11:04] <gnut> besides waiting for it to timeout [11:11:52] *** vedm_ has joined #opensolaris [11:13:10] *** hajma__ has quit IRC [11:13:37] <seanmcg> gnut, wipe the /etc/dhcp.* file(s) and or the /etc/hostname.* files [11:13:53] [11:13:54] <tsoome1> fix your network configuration..... [11:14:13] <quasi> oops, wrong channel [11:14:30] <palowoda> gnut: How much disk space are you missing now? [11:15:49] <gnut> palowoda: I found some of the space was used by dump [11:15:57] <gnut> that was 2 GB since it has 2 GB of RAM [11:16:05] <palowoda> Thats it? [11:16:11] <palowoda> Or that is all? [11:16:16] <gnut> tsoome1: how do I fix it to boot faster? use nwam? [11:16:26] <gnut> palowoda: well, and swap is 4 GB [11:16:36] <gnut> I didn't count those since I thought they were different [11:16:40] <gnut> so that's 6 GB. [11:16:58] <gnut> and then the core was .6 Gb... so around 6.6 GB [11:17:21] <palowoda> How did you fill a 23Gig rpool than? [11:17:36] <gnut> for some reason, by BE takes up 16.6 GB... is that normal? [11:17:47] <palowoda> Hell no. [11:17:53] <gnut> hmm [11:17:56] <gnut> okay. [11:18:05] <gnut> I have 16.5 GB in rpool/ROOT/b99 [11:18:09] <gnut> 2 Gb in dump [11:18:14] <gnut> 4 GB in swapp [11:18:17] <gnut> so that's 22.5 Gb [11:18:28] <palowoda> No way. [11:18:45] *** vedm has quit IRC [11:18:50] <gnut> okay. [11:18:58] <gnut> i thought it was weird [11:19:01] <gnut> but on my other machine [11:19:13] <tsoome1> zpool list? [11:19:18] <gnut> my rpool/ROOT/b103 is 13.3 GB [11:19:43] <gnut> zpool list shows rpool is size 23.4 Gb, and uses 22.5 GB [11:19:59] <palowoda> Your in trouble. [11:20:09] *** proti has joined #opensolaris [11:20:12] <gnut> mind you that /opt/csw is _not_ in rpool [11:20:23] <proti> morning [11:20:35] <gnut> oh [11:20:45] <gnut> but staroffice is in /opt/ which is in rpool [11:20:59] <palowoda> How big is staroffice/ [11:20:59] <tsoome1> well, if your pool is 22.5GB and your b99+swap+dump is 22.5GB, whats wrong then (besides rpool is filled)? [11:21:38] <gnut> i'm du'ing staroffice8 [11:21:48] <gnut> tsoome1: I forgot to add in dump and swap [11:21:58] <palowoda> It's not that big. [11:21:59] <gnut> staroffice8 is 405 MB [11:22:05] <gnut> yeah... not that big [11:22:19] *** hsp has joined #opensolaris [11:22:25] <roterra> the du piped through sort and tail will show the largest files/directories. You might need more than just the last 100 though. [11:22:34] <gnut> roterra [11:22:37] <gnut> doing it now [11:22:45] <tsoome1> cd /; du -sh * :P [11:22:46] <roterra> hard to say where it all went [11:22:46] <palowoda> gnut: search for more porn. [11:23:13] *** MattMan_ has quit IRC [11:23:52] <palowoda> Don't be a lamo tell us where you really use your disk space. [11:23:58] <tsoome1> just remove all directories named "gnu" [11:23:59] <gnut> hehehehe [11:24:55] *** MattMan has joined #opensolaris [11:25:16] <gnut> is it better to use nwam or default? [11:25:24] *** jteo has joined #opensolaris [11:25:42] <tsoome1> what is nwam? [11:26:01] <palowoda> gnut: The man page on nwam says use nwam. [11:26:23] <gnut> yeah... that's what they are telling me [11:26:32] <tsoome1> No manual entry for nwam. [11:26:34] <tsoome1> :D [11:26:42] <palowoda> But you can't find your disk space. [11:26:43] <tsoome1> SunOS kass 5.11 snv_103 i86pc i386 i86pc [11:26:44] <gnut> while this du is running, i'm thinking about how to get my computer to boot withouut long timeouts [11:27:13] <gnut> tsoome1: man nwamd [11:27:22] <tsoome1> aww [11:27:49] <gnut> when I'm at home, I use dhcp. at school, they use static, and when traveling, no network [11:28:06] <palowoda> A star is in order. [11:28:28] <gnut> it'd be nice if I could turn on my machine and not have to wait for it to timeout on the last case... but yet detect dhcp or static [11:29:04] <palowoda> Log a bug. [11:29:20] <gnut> is that a bug or do I not know how to use nwam? [11:30:01] <tsoome1> nwam is network auto-magic [11:30:02] <palowoda> Maybe nwam has a why of setting dhcp or static you never know. [11:30:19] <tsoome1> if it does not do auto-magic, its broken:) [11:30:20] <palowoda> It magic right. [11:30:51] <gnut> maybe it's in a future phase [11:31:18] <palowoda> They will fix it as soon as you find your missing disk space. [11:31:44] <gnut> I guess 75 GB isn't that big... [11:32:04] <gnut> I need to dedicate more to the OS (more than the 23) [11:32:16] <fraggeln> 75TB is big :D [11:32:31] <roterra> I've got a fairly complete install of 99 on my jumpstart server. I'm only using 10g total so far. [11:32:32] <gnut> I need double the size of the OS since I ping pong with LU to upgrade [11:32:48] *** Joerg has joined #opensolaris [11:33:00] <gnut> roterra: I wonder why mine is 16 GB... [11:33:01] <palowoda> gnut: You said you only have on image installed? [11:33:10] <palowoda> s/on/one [11:33:22] *** jub has quit IRC [11:33:25] <gnut> palowoda: yeah. one image. only one BE is present [11:33:50] <gnut> palowoda: there is /usr/local, but I haven't installed many things there... just maybe binutils or something [11:33:52] <palowoda> The other BE was deleted right? [11:33:56] <gnut> palowoda: yup. [11:34:03] <gnut> just b99 [11:34:09] <palowoda> So where is the disk space lost? [11:34:12] <gnut> I can't even upgrade to b101 or b103 because of the space issue [11:34:57] <gnut> well, if roterra has 10 GB, and I'm getting 16...... dunno. [11:35:02] <gnut> i'm running du still to find out [11:35:16] <roterra> I have next to no user data though [11:35:17] *** dunc has joined #opensolaris [11:35:43] <tsoome1> rpool/ROOT/snv_103 4,43G 26,5G 4,43G / [11:36:01] <roterra> I'm mostly just toying with the sxce builds on virtual machines, working on some provisioning goodies. [11:36:37] <palowoda> virtual machins is cheating. [11:36:43] <palowoda> machines [11:37:01] <roterra> I didn't need all the heat in the summer [11:37:11] <roterra> with winter coming on, I might get more iron [11:37:14] <roterra> :) [11:37:31] <palowoda> where is global warming when you need it. [11:38:25] <g4lt-work> not in oz [11:39:09] <palowoda> I got to get down there. The US dollar is worth a mutton or two. [11:40:25] <gnut> rpool/ROOT/b99 16.5G 551M 7.32G [11:40:50] <gnut> does that mean that only 7.32 G is new data in my b99 filesystem? and that 9.18 G is missing? [11:41:03] *** smtms has quit IRC [11:42:18] <gnut> a lot of space is taken up (5.1 GB) in /proc [11:42:19] <tsoome1> what other zfs you have there? [11:42:29] <tsoome1> ye, remove all /proc:D [11:42:36] <gnut> can I? [11:42:37] <tsoome1> rofl... [11:42:47] <palowoda> Oh brother. [11:42:56] <gnut> it's not devfs like in freebsd? [11:43:00] <tsoome1> you cant [11:43:05] <gnut> ok [11:43:06] <tsoome1> proc is not devfs [11:43:14] <gnut> or procfs [11:43:18] <gnut> okay. [11:43:46] <gnut> i get confuse with these pseudo filesystems on different OSese [11:44:04] <gnut> ok [11:44:15] <coffman> some one mind to look at this? http://pastebin.ca/1268511 [11:44:21] <tsoome1> anyhow, if used and referred numbers differ, this means you have some other FS there as well:D [11:44:32] *** takahide has quit IRC [11:44:37] <tsoome1> or dataset, as zfs calls it [11:44:51] <gnut> well ... the big space hogs are /usr, /proc, /opt, /var with 5.2 G, 5.1 G, 2.1G, 0.868 G [11:45:04] <roterra> genunix:assfail+74 --- sounds like it needs a proctologist [11:45:10] <tsoome1> whats your zfs list output [11:45:14] <roterra> sorry, I couldn't resist [11:45:45] <asyd> lol [11:45:45] <gnut> rpool 22.5G 551M 323K /rpool [11:45:46] <tsoome1> coffman: whats about it? [11:46:06] <gnut> rpool/ROOT 16.5G 551M 18K /rpool/ROOT [11:46:21] <gnut> rpool/ROOT/b99 16.5G 551M 7.32G / [11:46:34] <gnut> rpool/dump 2.00G 551M 2.00G - [11:46:44] <gnut> rpool/swap 3.95G 551M 3.95G - [11:47:54] <roterra> coffman: fmdump might give some clues. something went wrong with that usb path, but I'm not familiar enough with zfs internals to decode the trace well. [11:48:47] <tsoome1> SCSI transport failed: reason 'tran_err' [11:49:06] <tsoome1> and it will mean bad things to any fs:) [11:50:19] *** vedm_ has quit IRC [11:50:42] <tsoome1> zs list -r rpool/ROOT ? [11:51:32] <coffman> the pool is gone for good :( [11:52:16] <gnut> rpool/ROOT 16.5G 550M 18K /rpool/ROOT [11:52:23] <palowoda> coffman: what build of opensolaris is this? [11:52:32] <gnut> rpool/ROOT/b99 16.5G 550M 7.32G / [11:52:42] <coffman> palowoda: snv_101 sxce [11:52:56] <coffman> palowoda: not snv_102 [11:53:27] <roterra> http://www.sun.com/msg/ZFS-8000-GH [11:54:14] <tsoome1> oh well, zfs list doesnt list snapshots any more, you need to use -t snapshot,filesystem,volume to get all data, or some other combination [11:54:14] *** Tpenta has quit IRC [11:54:16] <roterra> and yeah, transport errors can do very bad things. That's probably the real trouble [11:54:21] <roterra> maybe try a different port [11:54:41] <coffman> roterra: any way of telling zfs to shut the fuck up? [11:54:43] *** Tpenta has joined #opensolaris [11:55:12] <tsoome1> coffman: zpool export -f :D [11:55:20] <roterra> hehe [11:55:33] <roterra> you'd have to take the pool offline entirely [11:55:38] <coffman> there are errors on the pool. which i tried to resolve with copy data on other fs [11:55:41] <roterra> it's panicing the system to protect the data [11:55:54] <coffman> roterra: the pool is offline [11:55:58] <coffman> and exported [11:56:05] <coffman> but i cant reimport it now [11:57:03] <tsoome1> your disk or usb is broken (transport errors!) meaning try on another usb or throw away the disk... [11:57:04] <roterra> the transport error is the root cause of the trouble. [11:57:27] <roterra> If possible, the attached drives should be moved to another controller. [11:57:32] <gnut> tsoome1: ahh! you're right [11:57:37] <gnut> there is a snapshot [11:57:45] <gnut> that's the missing 10 GB [11:57:47] <tsoome1> bingo;) [11:58:05] <gnut> can I just delete it? [11:58:11] <tsoome1> its your data;) [11:58:17] <gnut> rpool/ROOT/b103 and rpool/ROOT/b103@b103 [11:58:18] <tsoome1> so guess you can:D [11:58:23] <gnut> I never made the snapshot manually [11:58:27] <gnut> it must be generated by LU [11:58:35] <tsoome1> lustatus lists any? [11:58:38] <gnut> no [11:58:44] <gnut> it just lists b103 as the only BE [11:58:51] <gnut> but it must create a b103@b103 dataset [11:59:30] <tsoome1> you can remove snapshots, it doesnt affect existing data [11:59:34] *** xRaich[o]2x has quit IRC [11:59:59] <gnut> thanks [12:00:08] <gnut> i forgot that zfs stopped showing snapshots [12:00:08] <tsoome1> you are welcome. [12:00:13] <coffman> tsoome1: the disk should be fine itself, the usb to ide controller was faulty so i swaped it, but that was the thing that started the trouble [12:00:16] <gnut> ah.... disk space.... *drool* [12:00:36] <coffman> im not sure if this controller is working properly [12:00:38] <tsoome1> coffman: test on another host? 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[12:32:16] <fraggeln> no, its all a myth, like leprechauns :) [12:32:21] <sickness> gh [12:32:53] *** sophokles has joined #opensolaris [12:32:55] <sickness> I'd like to say just 1 thing: before gdm stards, at the beginning of the Xorg session, please, do a simple /usr/X/bin/xset b off [12:33:05] <codestr0m> sickness: have a specific question you need answered? [12:33:19] <sickness> I've put it in my window manager starting session, but the starting beep is really annoying :P [12:33:22] <sickness> nah [12:33:25] <sickness> more of a little little RFE :P [12:33:27] <codestr0m> sickness: ping alanc about that.. [12:33:35] <sickness> I've did this by hand and works fine :P [12:33:39] <sickness> codestr0m: ok tnx :) [12:33:40] *** sophokles has left #opensolaris [12:33:44] <sickness> alanc_away: ping [12:34:12] *** dunc has joined #opensolaris [12:34:19] *** dunc__ has joined #opensolaris [12:34:27] <seanmcg> its 3:36am in california, doubt if alanc is awak.. [12:35:04] <codestr0m> sickness: yeah. expect like 5 days of latency [12:35:21] <sickness> codestr0m: nice, no hurry on my side anyway :) [12:36:23] *** dunc has quit IRC [12:38:57] <yksinaisyyteni> java [12:39:18] <trochej> :) [12:39:42] <fraggeln> mr coffee :D [12:39:47] <StayTuned> :) [12:40:59] <jbit> trochej: \o/ [12:42:42] *** timsf has joined #opensolaris [12:45:32] *** twisti_ has joined #opensolaris [12:46:11] *** Odin- has joined #opensolaris [12:47:11] *** twisti has quit IRC [12:48:51] *** dunc_ has quit IRC [12:53:37] *** StayTuned has quit IRC [12:54:07] *** StayTuned has joined #opensolaris [12:59:51] *** Odin- has quit IRC [13:00:28] *** Odin- has joined #opensolaris [13:00:40] <sickness> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=os_threeway_2008&num=8 [13:12:48] *** PersonXXL has joined #opensolaris [13:18:58] *** Manitu has joined #opensolaris [13:19:23] <Manitu> hi guys, maybe someone can help me [13:20:20] *** Rarok has joined #opensolaris [13:21:29] *** The-spiki has joined #opensolaris [13:21:39] <Manitu> when solaris is booting with console=text the kernel turns on a graphics mode (something with 700x400 resolution), is it possible to tell that it shall keep normal text-mode (i use a intel serverboard with bmc and ipmi-2.0) and want to access the console via ipmi and SOL) [13:22:36] <timsf> Yep, get rid of the splashimage property in the grub menu.lst [13:22:54] *** PersonXXL has quit IRC [13:22:59] <Manitu> that i already did, but it justs work for the grub menu [13:23:34] <Manitu> wen it starts booting, it shows the license information, and after that kernel does a mode-switch [13:24:19] <timsf> fair enough.. I just redirect the console over the serial port most of the time [13:25:57] <timsf> no idea then [13:26:28] <tomww> Manitu: any changes if you boot into the xen path? [13:26:58] <Manitu> already had that idea, but problem is that when i do a console=ttya or b, the BMC can't grab it anymore and so its not possible to have serial-over-lan via ipmi :/ [13:27:09] *** twisti has joined #opensolaris [13:27:19] <Manitu> tomw haven't tried it [13:27:30] <yksinaisyyteni> it sounds like you're using console redirection over serial over lan [13:27:39] <yksinaisyyteni> can you make it just do plain serial over lan, which should let solaris use the serial? [13:28:47] <tomww> Manitu: and using the xen patch with normal vga output (to be displayed by the remote-vga-textmode display?) [13:29:39] <Manitu> yksinaisyyteni , tried all posibilities, doesn't help , cause as soon as the kernel or the vgatext driver gets loaded it changes the resolution, and bmc can't handle graphics-mode [13:30:02] <yksinaisyyteni> Manitu: right, i was wondering if you can make the bmc ignore the VGA and just redirect the serial port over lan [13:30:10] <Manitu> tomww, is something to try, but i am not planning to use XEN on the machine [13:30:28] <Manitu> yksinaisyyteni, haven't found a way to do that [13:30:49] * yksinaisyyteni never liked ipmi, too fiddly and error prone [13:30:53] <yksinaisyyteni> much prefer a proper service processor [13:30:54] <tomww> well, but this could be a workaround until the new virtual console thing appears (and might enhance chances to get your display right) [13:30:58] <Manitu> its a intel-server board (s3200hlx) with inbuilt BMC [13:32:34] <Manitu> yksinaisyyteni, i do also, but this is just a private server-machine, and i have too few budget for such a hardware [13:33:08] *** twisti_ has quit IRC [13:33:13] *** CyberBlue has joined #opensolaris [13:33:13] <yksinaisyyteni> for my personal stuff i use a 20-port terminal server i got for $15 on ebay [13:33:29] <Manitu> so there is currently no solution like a kernel parameter like vga=0x339 ( like linux) [13:34:04] <tsoome1> use the source, luke [13:34:20] <Manitu> to much 'like' in this sentence ,) [13:35:01] <Manitu> tsoome1 i will, just wanted to ask before, maybe someone had already some problem, and i don't need to reinvent the wheel :) [13:35:30] *** hsp is now known as hsp_away [13:38:46] <Manitu> thanx for your help [13:39:09] <tsoome1> apparently, from source, there is also an option to set console=graphics [13:39:43] <trygvis> http://www.keyboardforblondes.com/keyboard_bigger.html [13:43:59] <codestr0m> Manitu: these links may be helpful.. dunno http://blogs.sun.com/tdh/entry/booting_into_the_kernel_debugger http://blogs.sun.com/tdh/entry/eeprom_hosed_on_an_x86 [13:45:20] <Manitu> thanx a lot [13:45:29] <Manitu> have to leave now, i hate meetings, bye bye [13:45:31] *** Manitu has left #opensolaris [13:49:59] <tsoome1> pwd [13:50:02] <tsoome1> oops:D [13:50:28] <tsoome1> hm, how safe is to put /var/opt on separate dataset on zfs root? [13:52:25] *** anilg has joined #opensolaris [13:53:10] <seanmcg> tsoome1, would there be anything that needs bits in /var/opt early in boot ? E.g. something needs bits before /var/opt gets mounted. If not then should be ok. [13:53:23] <tsoome1> boot is not an issue [13:53:27] <tsoome1> upgrades is [13:53:55] <tsoome1> well, guess i can test it [13:55:00] <tsoome1> i need to split it to make it possible to do real live upgrades; atm there are some data from ldap/JES etc and that means i need to stop all data services and only then to do lucreate [14:00:35] <mui> hmm [14:00:54] <mui> after fresh install of sxce snv_103 I get "invalid or unsupported executable format" with zfs root [14:00:57] <mui> nice [14:01:16] *** mikearthur|work has quit IRC [14:01:17] <tsoome1> ? [14:01:32] <mui> after grub menu that is [14:02:00] <xRaich[o]2x> solaris grub or linux grub? [14:02:07] <mui> solaris [14:03:03] <mui> root device was c5t0d0 [14:03:12] <mui> hm [14:03:29] <mui> grub first line says findroot (pool_rpool,0,a) [14:05:28] *** niq has joined #opensolaris [14:09:13] *** Odin- has quit IRC [14:12:36] *** techqbert has quit IRC [14:20:54] *** hajma__ has quit IRC [14:23:16] *** ukdolphin has joined #opensolaris [14:24:12] <ukdolphin> hi all, how can i make a socket ? on linux i would normally do mksock [14:24:22] <ukdolphin> on linux that is :) [14:24:32] <yksinaisyyteni> i don't have a "mksock" on my linux. are you looking for mkfifo? [14:24:40] <yksinaisyyteni> (that exists on solaris too) [14:25:00] *** rno has joined #opensolaris [14:25:09] <rno> hi [14:25:16] <ukdolphin> nope i am not looking for a pipe [14:25:52] <Stric> I don't have mksock on my linux machines either [14:26:10] *** xRaich[o]2x has quit IRC [14:26:15] <rno> is there a know bug for the last release of opensolaris with network on VB [14:26:29] *** xRaich[o]2x has joined #opensolaris [14:33:23] <twisti> Where can I change my keyboard layout in GNOME? [14:33:50] <twisti> The layout tab is not there in the keyboard preferences. [14:34:40] *** chendy has quit IRC [14:38:24] <codestr0m> would anyone know where the code for /usr/lib/devfsadm/devfsadmd is? I don't think it's this.... /onnv-gate/usr/src/cmd/syseventd/modules/devfsadmd_mod [14:38:33] <codestr0m> twisti: for me it was under input methods [14:38:56] <codestr0m> then keyboard.. and you have to unselect the automagically detect [14:39:29] *** cky has quit IRC [14:40:02] <tsoome1> snv on sparc is still using Xsun? [14:40:58] *** phimic1 has joined #opensolaris [14:41:06] <seanmcg> tsoome1, yes [14:41:33] <tsoome1> nah, mkay [14:41:42] *** phimic has quit IRC [14:43:29] <seanmcg> though one snv_103 at least, Xorg is there if one wants to try it. [14:43:39] <twisti> codestr0m, Ahh, right, but there were much more keyboards in my Linux Gnome. [14:43:40] <tsoome1> ah, ok, nice [14:43:56] <codestr0m> twisti: right.. you can thank sun for this [14:43:58] <twisti> The problem I have is, my fn-key does not work and so I can't map pg-up/pg-down. [14:44:01] <tsoome1> solaris is not for desktop [14:44:10] <twisti> Well, Indiana is. [14:44:29] <codestr0m> twisti: fn-keys may be acpi controlled in some cases. (maybe not yours) [14:44:29] <tsoome1> if you cant set your keyboard, it means its not [14:44:44] <twisti> codestr0m, Probably. [14:44:55] <codestr0m> twisti: is this a mac with usb keyboard thingie? [14:45:06] <twisti> It's a MacBook. [14:45:17] <codestr0m> did you try to catch if the key press event is being captured at all [14:45:33] <codestr0m> from there you can hack your xorg.conf to respond to the event iirc. (could be totally wrong) [14:45:33] <twisti> I think it's not. [14:45:49] <codestr0m> ok. if it's not. you're in the same boat as me in needing to hack the code [14:45:51] <tsoome1> test it with xev:) [14:46:05] <codestr0m> tsoome1: thanks. I couldn't remember the name of that program [14:46:17] <tsoome1> its in /usr/openwin/demo/xev [14:46:26] <tsoome1> or maybe also in /usr/X11 [14:46:28] <twisti> xev does not show a key event. [14:46:45] <yksinaisyyteni> "fn" isn't usually a normal key [14:46:48] *** Rocket2DMn has joined #opensolaris [14:46:50] <yksinaisyyteni> at least in the sense that X sees keys [14:47:55] <codestr0m> yksinaisyyteni: X doesn't usually even see fn keys, but he mentioned page up/down [14:48:03] <codestr0m> doesn't even* [14:48:13] <yksinaisyyteni> i assumed frm his description that he had to press fn to get page up/down [14:48:17] <tsoome1> plain fn? but fn with arrow or some other keys? [14:48:27] <twisti> On my old PowerBook page-up was fn-up [14:48:35] <tsoome1> its still the same [14:48:53] <codestr0m> twisti: where are you trying to page up? [14:48:59] <tsoome1> page, home, enda are fn+arrow [14:49:08] <tsoome1> ends=end [14:49:14] <tsoome1> damn [14:49:14] <twisti> tsoome1, Right, it used to be. [14:49:24] <twisti> codestr0m, e.g. terminal. [14:49:36] <codestr0m> twisti: try shift+page up [14:49:43] <codestr0m> (if your mac has a shift key ;) [14:49:49] <twisti> I know that :) [14:50:09] * codestr0m thankfully doesn't own a mac keyboard [14:50:30] <twisti> <ctrl>-x returns [A for up and [A for fn-up. [14:50:35] <twisti> But it should be: [14:50:36] <tsoome1> xev on mac doesnt detect fn press as well, but it does map fn+arrow [14:50:39] <yksinaisyyteni> twisti: try it in a browser or something, it often doesn't work in a terminal [14:50:53] <twisti> Can't remember. [14:51:12] <twisti> yksinaisyyteni, I did. [14:51:27] <twisti> tsoome1, You have a Mac where it works? [14:51:49] <tsoome1> yes, but its X11 module+xev in macos, not in solaris [14:52:07] <tsoome1> hm, sec, ill start xev from solaris [14:52:22] *** klg has joined #opensolaris [14:52:55] <tsoome1> yep, sorry for spam: [14:52:57] <tsoome1> eyRelease event, serial 253, synthetic NO, window 0x800001, [14:52:57] <tsoome1> root 0x44, subw 0x0, time 3728377968, (151,162), root:(151,206), [14:52:58] <tsoome1> state 0x0, keycode 124 (keysym 0xff55, Prior), same_screen YES, [14:52:58] <tsoome1> XLookupString gives 0 bytes: [14:52:58] <tsoome1> XFilterEvent returns: False [14:53:27] <tsoome1> its xev running on solaris, but display is macbook [14:53:49] <twisti> Damn. [14:53:50] <tsoome1> this was fn+arrow up [14:54:24] *** Tobbe|autoaway is now known as Tobbe [14:54:43] <twisti> For me it's: keycode 98 (keysym 0xff52, Up) [14:55:03] <twisti> I wonder if this is related to the german keyboard I have... [14:55:21] *** gerard13 has quit IRC [14:55:24] <twisti> I should get myself an english one. [14:56:43] <tsoome1> i have real layout swedish, and applied estonian layout (they dont produce estonian layout hw) [14:58:47] <tsoome1> hm, i could test tomorrow with apple usb keyboard on snv_103 box - just need to remember to bring kbd with me.) [14:59:01] *** gerard13 has joined #opensolaris [15:01:10] <twisti> tsoome1, At home I have an Apple USB keyboard and, obviously, page-up/down work there. [15:01:21] <twisti> (because there are page-up/down keys) [15:01:47] <twisti> On my old PowerBook I had an intl english keyboard where the fn key worked. [15:01:59] <tsoome1> ah, ofc, its full size one [15:02:05] *** rno has left #opensolaris [15:02:05] <twisti> Right. [15:02:07] <g4lt-work> bah, apple still can't put capslock in the right place, so it sucks as well [15:02:48] <twisti> I just wonder on my current keyboard the arrow keys have no second label, like home, end, ... 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[15:23:02] *** Vorbote has joined #opensolaris [15:23:33] <tsoome1> using mac without macos is like using linux on sparc [15:23:43] <tsoome1> :D [15:24:18] <fraggeln> tsoome1: i have debian on a E420 :D [15:24:24] <tsoome1> omg [15:24:24] <fraggeln> works like a charm :) [15:24:27] <tsoome1> /flee [15:25:03] <sickness> linux on sparc is worse than opensolaris on sparc, whereas almost every other unix on a mac is better than osx :P [15:25:34] <tsoome1> no way [15:25:37] *** _zaihan has joined #opensolaris [15:26:17] *** zaihan has quit IRC [15:26:24] *** _zaihan is now known as zaihan [15:27:08] <tsoome1> if you dont wanna use osx, thats fine, but then again, why to boy a mac afterall;) [15:27:12] <tsoome1> buy* [15:27:38] <oxygene> fashion victims.. [15:28:04] *** ttmrichter has quit IRC [15:29:00] <tsoome1> anyhow, from my own personal experience - i started with sunos 3.4 on sun 3, used solaris as a desktop years, after they rendered it unusable with gnome, switched to windows for a brief time and now im on osx;) [15:29:00] <coffman> oxygene: well, another thing comes in my mind [15:29:08] *** ttmrichter has joined #opensolaris [15:29:19] <coffman> oxygene: sun has no dual cpu workstations anymore [15:29:22] <coffman> apple does [15:29:24] <coffman> man [15:29:25] <tsoome1> if i need solaris (and i do need it every day) ill log into solaris host [15:29:30] <coffman> thats so fucking weak [15:30:05] *** freakazoid0223 has quit IRC [15:30:10] *** mbz has left #opensolaris [15:30:32] <yksinaisyyteni> ... sun only has one workstation *at all* now, apparently [15:30:35] <oxygene> coffman: if sun were to kill their "solaris on the desktop" pipedreams, about 50% of the projects on opensolaris.org were dead in the water.. incl. all the linuxification ones.. hmm.. [15:30:41] <yksinaisyyteni> (U24) [15:30:48] *** TheNoxier has quit IRC [15:30:53] <tsoome1> and why osx - I wanna have my stable usable desktop, with all desktop gadgets i need. i dont wanan spend days builing another half breed video player or some other stuff [15:31:01] <g4lt-work> yksinaisyyteni: U24 is EOSL too [15:31:08] *** ttmrichter has quit IRC [15:31:15] <coffman> tsoome1: ha [15:31:22] <yksinaisyyteni> oxygene: linuxificiation can apply to servers which have local users [15:31:32] <coffman> tsoome1: well, i dont think thats a real problem [15:31:47] *** freakazoid0223 has joined #opensolaris [15:31:47] *** ttmrichter has joined #opensolaris [15:32:02] <coffman> if sun would put some money at the _right_ places, we would have enough software for solaris [15:32:06] <oxygene> yksinaisyyteni: that's what cifs server and similar projects are for. linux on the desktop is irrelevant for a good reason. no need to pretend it were significant when doing solaris servers [15:32:16] <yksinaisyyteni> oxygene: i'm not talking about linux on the desktop [15:32:22] <tsoome1> well, i cant have even decent way to set up damn keyboard in solaris;) [15:32:23] <yksinaisyyteni> oxygene: imagine a shell / web host / whatever servers that has linux users [15:32:29] <g4lt-work> woah, store.sun.com resurrected the U45 [15:32:30] *** hsp_away is now known as hsp [15:32:45] <g4lt-work> damn, s.s.c has like five workstations today :S [15:33:57] *** tavis has joined #opensolaris [15:34:00] <oxygene> yksinaisyyteni: yes, and? [15:34:00] <tsoome1> afaik U45 has not been eol'ed;) [15:34:21] <oxygene> yksinaisyyteni: they get a linux branded zone and done [15:34:23] <yksinaisyyteni> oxygene: and that is an environment, which is unaffected by whatever Sun does with its desktops, where linuxification can apply [15:34:37] <yksinaisyyteni> oxygene: i'm not going to run a shell server on solaris with a linux brand, i'd just use linux if i wanted that [15:34:40] <g4lt-work> tsoome1: it disappeared off store.sun.com months ago, and we all assumed it was EOSL [15:34:58] <tsoome1> hm, mkay, i dont use store anyhow [15:34:59] <oxygene> yksinaisyyteni: no need to pollute a somewhat reasonable system with the instability of "oh, I want to participate, too - may I rewrite that core part, oh, pretty please?" projects [15:35:09] <tavis> advice on pcie sas/sata controller for exteral DAS? [15:35:16] <yksinaisyyteni> oxygene: i'm not arguing for / against anything, i'm just pointing out that it applies outside desktops [15:35:42] <oxygene> yksinaisyyteni: well, people who want linux, use linux. people who don't, don't. what change in solaris could ever change that? [15:36:00] <oxygene> yksinaisyyteni: the "it's a better X than X" attitude worked _really_ well for OS/2, remember? [15:36:02] <yksinaisyyteni> oxygene: that argument applies just the same to desktops [15:36:11] <yksinaisyyteni> oxygene: like i said, i'm not arguing for / against anyting [15:36:24] <tsoome1> why i should create lxbranded zone to host linux apache, when i can create solaris zone with the same damn apache? [15:36:28] <yksinaisyyteni> oxygene: i'm just saying that sun having no desktop systems would not affect linuxification efforts [15:36:59] <oxygene> yksinaisyyteni: most of them are obsolete, because they support the desktop infrastructure (that hideout HAL crap, for example) [15:37:29] <oxygene> replace a problem with a layer of indirection and a problem. yay, now we have a problem and a layer of indirection. it can only be better, right? [15:44:49] *** perlmongo has quit IRC [15:52:28] *** telpochyaotl has joined #opensolaris [16:01:20] *** nitrile has joined #opensolaris [16:02:49] *** Dar has quit IRC [16:04:07] *** Odin- has joined #opensolaris [16:05:48] <h3sp4wn> NOTICE: IRQ17 is being shared by drivers with different interrupt levels (Is there any project working on sorting out this stuff (every other OS seems to use high irq's in such cases) [16:09:08] <oxygene> that depends (among other things) on the interpretation of acpi data [16:11:02] *** LordIllpalazo has joined #opensolaris [16:11:59] *** TheNoxier has joined #opensolaris [16:12:55] <Tobbe> 2008.11rc1 just rebooted on me with no warning while copying stuff to a smb share on it :( [16:14:34] <h3sp4wn> oxygene: afaik IRQ17 for me is the centrino chipset (wifi / modem / bluetooth) is this a thing that is broken only for specific cases or uniformly broken for all x86 users [16:17:09] <oxygene> h3sp4wn: it's interrupt routing - a per mainboard issue [16:17:31] <oxygene> h3sp4wn: defined by some tables in the BIOS [16:18:07] <oxygene> h3sp4wn: and by the interpretation of the tables (or rather: the selection of the right one) [16:18:23] *** cypromis has quit IRC [16:20:05] <telpochyaotl> Hi all... I just installed gnu emacs x... When ran in a console via ssh, running emacs changes the terminal colors and the terminal becomes unreadable... Does this happen to others? I know this could be changed via config, but seems like a bug to me... [16:22:14] <StayTuned> I am trying to find my suexec program so that my apache2 will work [16:26:03] <klg> guys, how can i install samba server, on solaris 10 update 6 [16:26:42] <klg> the info i got on genunix was related to sxce & osol [16:27:11] <CosmicDJ> klg: check /usr/sfw [16:28:17] <klg> CosmicDJ: it's there, but if i try to start it, it goes to maintenance mode [16:28:59] <CosmicDJ> klg: well you have to configure it fist; IIRC smb.conf (the file you need to create) is in /etc/sfw [16:33:37] <klg> CosmicDJ: i copied the example file from /etc/sfw/smb.conf-example /etc/sfw/smb.conf [16:33:45] <telpochyaotl> any emacs users here? [16:34:12] <thebentzone> command line emacs... [16:34:36] <klg> CosmicDJ: then i tried to restart the server but it's still in maintenance, logs shows the following errors [16:34:56] <klg> CosmicDJ:[ Nov 27 18:41:12 Executing start method ("/usr/sfw/sbin/smbd -D") ] [16:34:56] <klg> [ Nov 27 18:41:12 Method "start" exited with status 255 ] [16:35:15] <StayTuned> how do I enable suexec for apache? [16:35:27] <StayTuned> without uninstalling 1.3 [16:35:28] <tsoome1> by reading apache manual? [16:35:35] <StayTuned> no dice [16:35:43] <StayTuned> I read the apache manual [16:36:02] <telpochyaotl> thebentzone: me too.. i just installed it in .5, upgraded to .11... well, once i open emacs the term colors change and turns both background and forground to black, so cant do anything... even exiting emacs leaves the screen unreadable... any clues? [16:36:40] *** oxygene has left #opensolaris [16:36:46] <thebentzone> .emacsrc valid? [16:37:13] <h3sp4wn> telpochyaotl: sounds like broken terminfo [16:37:29] <telpochyaotl> thebentzone: there is none [16:37:30] <h3sp4wn> telpochyaotl: its fine for me here (using emacs -nw) [16:37:44] <tsoome1> make sure you have correct terminal set up;) [16:38:00] <CosmicDJ> klg: man svcadm -> "if the instance is in the maintenance state, signal to the assigned restarter that the service has been repaired." [16:38:01] *** twisti has quit IRC [16:38:25] <tsoome1> svcadm clear ;) [16:38:30] <telpochyaotl> h3sp4wn... well, yes, but i have not touched anything... i'm connecting via ssh btw [16:38:39] *** gcleric has joined #opensolaris [16:38:52] *** Vorbote has left #opensolaris [16:38:58] <h3sp4wn> telpochyaotl: solaris -> solaris ? [16:39:12] <telpochyaotl> h3sp4wn, and if i don't run emacs, everything works... [16:39:12] <tsoome1> what terminal are you using? [16:39:13] <CosmicDJ> it may also be possible that samba is choking on smb.conf-example... [16:39:14] <telpochyaotl> opensolaris [16:39:27] <telpochyaotl> h3sp4wm: mac osx to solaris [16:39:36] <telpochyaotl> tsome1: iTerm [16:39:58] <telpochyaotl> starting Xterm to try [16:39:59] <tsoome1> well iterm, but what terminal it does emulate? [16:40:01] <klg> CosmicDJ: ok got it online, thanx [16:40:03] <CosmicDJ> man testparm for that [16:40:32] *** dhouthoo has joined #opensolaris [16:40:49] <tsoome1> osx Terminal app is xterm-color [16:40:51] <telpochyaotl> tsome1: will check... i used xterm and it looks good there... so it does have to do with iTerm [16:42:29] <dhouthoo> is there an official newsfeed about opensolaris that announces new releases and informas about new features or pitfalls? [16:42:49] <telpochyaotl> tsome1 can't tell what iTerm is doing.... [16:43:21] *** cypromis has joined #opensolaris [16:46:12] <PerterB> TERM=ddterm works reasonably well with iTerm [16:46:25] <PerterB> um, TERM=dtterm :) [16:47:15] <h3sp4wn> do they not just provide a termcap / terminfo for iterm (sounds stupid not to) [16:47:56] <tsoome1> nah, they usually emulate something like vt100/xterm or xterm variants [16:48:09] *** mikl has quit IRC [16:48:11] <tsoome1> no point to invent some special new one [16:48:15] <h3sp4wn> badly though most of the time [16:48:21] <tsoome1> true:D [16:49:07] <telpochyaotl> PerterB: awesome! that works! [16:49:27] *** biafra has quit IRC [16:49:32] <g4lt-work> h3sp4wn: there's very little NOT stupid about iTerm [16:50:07] <telpochyaotl> g4lt-work: i'm not in love with it, but i don't know another good one for mac [16:50:27] <klg> CosmicDJ: i more query, i basically want to share zfs mount points using samba [16:50:56] <PerterB> it possibly has the world's worst configuration interface, and used to forget what character set you asked it for, but at least it emulates xterm better than Terminal.app... [16:51:01] <tsoome1> why samba and not smb?;) [16:51:02] <g4lt-work> telpochyaotl: xterm? [16:51:02] <klg> i gave the command zfs set sharesmb=on whatever_zfs_filesystem [16:51:12] <g4lt-work> hell, even gnome-terminal [16:51:37] <tsoome1> klg thats not for samba, thats for in kernel smbserv;) [16:51:43] <yksinaisyyteni> it's hard to imagine a terminal worse than gnome-terminal [16:51:44] <tsoome1> you cant use both [16:51:45] <telpochyaotl> xterm works on macosx but starts x and no tabs, etc... i didn't know i could run the gnome one [16:51:56] <yksinaisyyteni> although to be fair it's improved a lot since S10, where even basic functionality didn't work [16:52:25] <telpochyaotl> so .bashrc is not executed auto when i ssh... what should i put stuff i want loaded when connected? [16:52:29] <klg> tsoome1: then how do i accomplish that in solaris 10 update 6 [16:52:34] <telpochyaotl> i meant where [16:52:37] <PerterB> yksinaisyyteni: shame it chews up about 100M of RAM per tab... [16:52:52] *** jrms has joined #opensolaris [16:52:58] <tsoome1> klg - you either use smbserv or samba. [16:53:10] <CosmicDJ> klg: sharesmb shouldn't work on solaris10, IIRC [16:53:31] *** jrms has left #opensolaris [16:54:21] <g4lt-work> CosmicDJ: yeah, but you can do beetter with zfs ;P [16:54:33] <klg> CosmicDJ: oh :( , i have created this file server where all the client machines will be on windows, the users should be able to access the files on the zfs [16:55:00] *** mikefut has left #opensolaris [16:55:00] <tsoome1> well, as smbserv is not there in in S10u6, you need to set up samba [16:55:31] <tsoome1> and for samba you create config like for any other samba setup... [16:55:48] <tsoome1> including shares etc [16:56:31] <tsoome1> im not sure if zfs acl support is included in this built in samba anyhow... [16:56:53] <klg> tsoome1: in my R&D i used to use opensolaris 2008.05 & belenix & have used sharesmb on it, r these distro suitable for production system [16:57:22] *** twisti has joined #opensolaris [16:57:40] *** timsf has quit IRC [16:57:47] <klg> tsoome1: http://www.genunix.org/wiki/index.php/Getting_Started_With_the_Solaris_CIFS_Service [16:57:59] <tsoome1> no idea i'm not using 2008.05 nor belenix;) [16:58:44] *** dhouthoo has quit IRC [16:58:46] <tsoome1> its nice guide but for opensolaris;) [16:59:19] <tsoome1> in kernel smb server/sharectl etc are just not there for S10u6 [16:59:53] <tsoome1> and read the first sentence from that guide;) [17:00:28] <telpochyaotl> i'm trying to figure out how to make the TERM=xxxx persistent, so that it is set when I ssh, .bashrc is not cutting it, i need to load it manually.... clues? [17:00:45] <tsoome1> man bash [17:00:50] <tsoome1> ;) [17:00:58] <hrist_> TERM=foobar ssh :p [17:01:40] *** StayTuned has quit IRC [17:01:51] <telpochyaotl> I guess my main thing is that .bashrc is not being sourced automatially [17:01:53] *** zaihan has quit IRC [17:02:03] <tsoome1> use .profile then?;) [17:02:20] *** SeJo has quit IRC [17:03:01] <g4lt-work> use a better shell [17:04:53] <telpochyaotl> tsome1: thanks, that worked [17:05:03] *** koan has quit IRC [17:05:17] *** koan has joined #opensolaris [17:05:54] *** dustman has joined #opensolaris [17:09:32] *** KOHJU is now known as kohju [17:12:37] *** sipior has left #opensolaris [17:13:01] *** bourgois has joined #opensolaris [17:14:44] *** The-spiki has quit IRC [17:15:14] *** jgracin has joined #opensolaris [17:16:08] *** SeJo has joined #opensolaris [17:16:55] *** carl- has quit IRC [17:17:54] <Tobbe> I was copying files to a smb share on my opensolaris box. Then without warning my OSol box rebooted and now I can't access the share anymore. What could be the reason for any of this? [17:19:02] *** jgracin has quit IRC [17:19:21] <Tobbe> sharemgr show -vp still lists the share [17:20:14] <Tobbe> When I try to access it from Windows the client timesout because it can't connect [17:21:10] *** cypromis has quit IRC [17:21:27] *** shackan has joined #opensolaris [17:21:59] *** Rarok has quit IRC [17:22:06] <shackan> what's the difference between osol-0811-rc2-global.iso.torrent and osol-0811-rc2.iso.torrent ? [17:22:44] <codestr0m> shackan: size mostly I think [17:23:48] *** Rarok has joined #opensolaris [17:23:52] <shackan> mmm, I never burn CDs, I always install to the physical disk from a virtual machine [17:24:34] <shackan> Tobbe, codestr0m: thanks [17:26:50] <h3sp4wn> It takes forever to install from the global one (or it did when I tried 2008.05 when it was first released but I was using 32 bit then which is a bad idea) [17:27:23] <codestr0m> h3sp4wn: that's more a design problem than than anything else [17:28:40] *** Rarok has quit IRC [17:28:41] *** koan has quit IRC [17:28:47] *** Rarok has joined #opensolaris [17:30:32] <h3sp4wn> codestr0m: It was much faster with the other though [17:30:51] <h3sp4wn> (like 10 times or so) [17:30:58] <codestr0m> h3sp4wn: the other was probably uncompressed on a dvd? [17:31:06] <h3sp4wn> It was on a cd still [17:31:24] <codestr0m> hmm. only the global would fit on a cd iirc.. (shrugs) [17:31:32] *** tfb has joined #opensolaris [17:31:36] <codestr0m> less languages would make sense, but I didn't care to look further [17:31:41] <codestr0m> I needed chinese support [17:31:43] *** gcleric has quit IRC [17:32:09] *** pumpkin_ has joined #opensolaris [17:32:12] *** biafra has joined #opensolaris [17:33:21] *** phimic1 has quit IRC [17:33:57] *** koan has joined #opensolaris [17:34:24] *** Fish has joined #opensolaris [17:35:11] <Tobbe> codestr0m: they both fit on a cd [17:35:24] <codestr0m> oh cool [17:36:27] <h3sp4wn> anyone happen to know (or where to find out) why sunpro CC doesn't like enum { AUTO = EVFLAG_AUTO, } (given more than one of the above I can switch them all to use #define but its really heavily used by libev and I think there should be a better way [17:37:15] <yksinaisyyteni> is it possible a solaris header already #defined AUTO? what error do you get? [17:37:45] <Tobbe> a proper reboot and I can access my smb share again. Weird! [17:38:23] <g4lt-work> in solaris, there's no such thing as a "proper" reboot that doesn't involve replacing hardware [17:38:39] *** div13 has quit IRC [17:38:51] <CosmicDJ> "The new -features=extensions option enables you to compile nonstandard code that is commonly accepted by other C++ compilers." [17:39:13] <CosmicDJ> that would be the first I'd try [17:39:16] <Tobbe> g4lt-work: "proper" as in initiated by me, and not some crash-induced reboot [17:39:26] <g4lt-work> thus you can now have code that is bug-for-bug compatible with GCC [17:39:27] <codestr0m> CosmicDJ: is there any disadvantage to using that vs converted the code? [17:40:04] <CosmicDJ> codestr0m: no idea, you could md5sum the .o... :) [17:40:04] <h3sp4wn> CosmicDJ: I have tried that and using stdcxx [17:40:13] *** tsoome1 has quit IRC [17:40:16] <CosmicDJ> library=stlport4 ?! [17:40:20] <h3sp4wn> and that [17:40:32] *** esaxe has quit IRC [17:40:44] *** esaxe has joined #opensolaris [17:42:32] <CosmicDJ> http://developers.sun.com/sunstudio/support/CCcompare.html#cenumcomma [17:42:58] <CosmicDJ> "Previously, code such as enum Size { small, medium, large, }; // warning was rejected as an error." [17:44:27] <CosmicDJ> looks like the code you posted above... [17:45:00] <shackan> how is ext3 support? [17:45:18] <codestr0m> h3sp4wn: you can CC -E > test.cc to get the preprocessed output and narrow it down to a testcase [17:45:35] <h3sp4wn> I don't think its that though (it works if its SMALL=1, LARGE=2 and such) [17:45:55] <g4lt-work> shackan: nonexistent, why would we support that crap? [17:45:59] <codestr0m> h3sp4wn: get the preprocessed output and others can help from there [17:46:10] <h3sp4wn> trying (gnome is falling to pieces though atm) [17:46:17] <codestr0m> g4lt-work: be positive [17:46:32] <g4lt-work> I am positive. it's positively crap [17:46:39] *** DTEIT has quit IRC [17:46:49] <CosmicDJ> indeed, in a few month they'll ask for ext4 support ;) [17:46:49] <codestr0m> g4lt-work: seriously.. those comments while true/untrue don't need to be added [17:46:52] <CosmicDJ> +s [17:47:02] <yksinaisyyteni> codestr0m: good luck with that one [17:47:17] <codestr0m> yksinaisyyteni: the attitude here has changed a lot recently [17:47:20] <ukdolphin> Is there a sendmail.mc in solaris? if so what package do i need to install to get this? if not is there a guide on setting up solaris 10 and sendmail [17:48:28] *** morettoni has quit IRC [17:50:08] <g4lt-work> codestr0m: I didn't notice you saying anything at all about solaris support of extN. if you really want to yammer about my attitude, help people before I get to them [17:50:37] <codestr0m> g4lt-work: this isn't a competition.. if I don't know something I typically keep quiet [17:50:56] <codestr0m> I know you're helpful. [17:51:13] *** zaihan has joined #opensolaris [17:51:28] <g4lt-work> codestr0m: no, it's you whinging about my helping others in my way. unless you have a better answer, your better answer is leaving me alone [17:53:00] <shackan> g4lt-work: well, because all my crap is on ext3 and it's supported fine on linux and (somewhat) on windows, and I'm not going to reformat 100Gb of "precious" data [17:53:13] *** kim0 has quit IRC [17:53:37] <codestr0m> g4lt-work: I'm not going to get into this more with you. all I ask is that you be more positive.. no need to say bad comments even if there are better things that exist(ed) [17:53:40] <g4lt-work> shackan: and? have fun with linsux then. when you're ready to use a real OS, we'll still be here [17:53:47] *** koan has quit IRC [17:53:49] <shackan> jesus christ [17:53:50] <codestr0m> shackan: please ignore him [17:53:58] <shackan> will do [17:54:10] <codestr0m> e^ipi: if you another op are here can you warn g4lt-work please [17:56:20] *** stux|work has quit IRC [17:56:42] *** tsoome has joined #opensolaris [17:57:07] *** jtmuzix has joined #opensolaris [17:58:05] <h3sp4wn> CosmicDJ: Thanks (Its not the actual problem but it means I can get rid of 50 or so of those instances so I can see actually what the problem is) [18:00:05] *** sladegen has quit IRC [18:00:14] *** sladegen has joined #opensolaris [18:01:16] *** koan has joined #opensolaris [18:02:52] *** biafra has quit IRC [18:03:25] *** dunc has joined #opensolaris [18:03:45] *** biafra has joined #opensolaris [18:03:47] *** tsoome has quit IRC [18:04:02] *** dunc__ has quit IRC [18:09:46] *** tsoome has joined #opensolaris [18:09:51] *** twisti_ has joined #opensolaris [18:11:30] *** twisti has quit IRC [18:12:13] *** hsp has quit IRC [18:14:00] *** hsp has joined #opensolaris [18:14:41] *** freakazoid0223 has quit IRC [18:18:30] *** kohju has quit IRC [18:18:36] *** KOHJU has joined #opensolaris [18:18:47] *** KOHJU is now known as kohju [18:20:55] *** kohju has quit IRC [18:21:21] *** KOHJU has joined #opensolaris [18:21:32] *** KOHJU is now known as kohju [18:25:56] *** fr4g has quit IRC [18:26:43] *** MattMan has quit IRC [18:27:19] *** stux has joined #opensolaris [18:27:40] *** stux is now known as stux|away [18:27:49] *** kavie has joined #opensolaris [18:28:11] <kavie> hello [18:28:36] <kavie> is anyone from sun around? [18:30:55] <g4lt-work> on thanksgiving? ROFLMAO [18:31:10] *** tfb has quit IRC [18:31:21] *** koan has quit IRC [18:31:27] <kavie> dohh yeah i forgot about this [18:31:29] <kavie> argh! [18:35:04] *** zack has quit IRC [18:39:15] <yksinaisyyteni> yeah because all of sun employees live in the US ;) [18:40:28] <g4lt-work> well, all the ones that would be online in US daytime anyways [18:41:15] *** tCzern has joined #opensolaris [18:42:14] *** ukdolphin has quit IRC [18:44:02] <sickness> I'm back [18:45:12] *** koan has joined #opensolaris [18:46:35] *** victori_ has joined #opensolaris [18:46:43] *** kavie has left #opensolaris [18:47:10] <codestr0m> Is it always a good thing if your sickness comes back? [18:50:50] <sickness> yeah, if it's me. 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[20:01:47] <DottorZero> when it should be begin to copy files the installer exits [20:01:58] *** TT has joined #opensolaris [20:06:33] *** tCzern_ has joined #opensolaris [20:10:38] *** victori_ has quit IRC [20:12:19] <h3sp4wn> bootadm is not happy on b103 [20:12:42] <h3sp4wn> not sure if that affects the installer [20:13:21] *** tCzern__ has joined #opensolaris [20:13:39] *** jgracin has joined #opensolaris [20:14:00] <DottorZero> I try b101 [20:14:01] *** tCzern has quit IRC [20:19:32] *** pumpkin_ is now known as pumpkin [20:20:13] *** anilg has quit IRC [20:23:41] *** tCzern_ has quit IRC [20:23:55] * jamesd is bored... so might as well open my self up to redicule http://unixconsult.org/why_i_am_not_a_web_designer.jpg [20:25:18] *** iceq has quit IRC [20:26:12] *** victori has joined #opensolaris [20:28:38] *** tCzern__ has quit IRC [20:28:59] <_setuid_H> jamesd: Don't worry, It looks like typical old sun colors :-) I like them and I had own small webstudio [20:29:30] <jamesd> wife loves purple.. so that is why i used those color [20:29:45] <_setuid_H> jamesd: Purple is in this year [20:29:50] *** DottorZero has quit IRC [20:30:02] <jamesd> purple has been in at my house for the last 20 years. [20:31:01] <dunc> :) [20:31:10] *** tCzern has joined #opensolaris [20:31:15] <_setuid_H> jamesd: Damn I like that shopping list idea :-) I really need to do something similar in future :-) [20:31:27] <dunc> lol [20:31:32] <dunc> it does seem quite easy [20:31:46] <dunc> myth tv too, good work [20:32:02] <jamesd> its an ajax thing so anyone can click on the box and edit it and add things... [20:32:14] <_setuid_H> jamesd: nice [20:35:29] *** erast has quit IRC [20:36:42] <_setuid_H> jamesd: If you want to make a css style I could make one for you. [20:37:19] *** biafra has joined #opensolaris [20:38:01] <jamesd> _setuid_H, sure send it... that does have a basic css style... i mostly just do some color stuff and the 2 collumns. [20:38:51] *** FreakGuard has joined #opensolaris [20:38:51] *** biafra has quit IRC [20:38:57] *** biafra has joined #opensolaris [20:39:20] <FreakGuard> I've got there some VBox additions.. a file.pkg - how to install that? [20:39:40] <Stric> pkgadd -d file.pkg [20:40:20] <_setuid_H> jamesd: Right now I'm working at pkg presentation. But I will try to make some at the weekend :-) But without promis. [20:42:59] <jamesd> _setuid_H, no rush... its going to be an on going project... have to see if anyone uses it besides me... have to get wife and kids to use it else its just something to keep php/sql fresh. [20:43:51] <_setuid_H> jamesd: ok [20:44:01] <e^ipi> grails *nod* [20:44:04] <e^ipi> way of the future. [20:45:01] *** dsop has joined #opensolaris [20:45:10] <e^ipi> jamesd: seen http://www.oswd.org/ ? [20:45:21] <dsop> does someone know the package name of the java 6 jdk for opensolaris? [20:45:32] *** victori has quit IRC [20:45:42] *** StayTuned has joined #opensolaris [20:45:56] *** shackan has quit IRC [20:46:03] <Archite> dsch04, pkg search -r java [20:46:34] <dsop> I found SUNWj6dev, but Sun STudio still doesn't recognize an installed JDK [20:46:44] <StayTuned> unable to find IPv4 address of "opensolaris" [20:46:54] <StayTuned> when I try to run apache [20:47:03] <StayTuned> I am using WRT54g [20:47:11] <StayTuned> 192.168.1.100 [20:47:34] *** tsoome has quit IRC [20:47:34] *** sladegen has quit IRC [20:47:34] *** Odin- has quit IRC [20:47:34] *** delewis has quit IRC [20:47:35] *** jamesd has quit IRC [20:47:35] *** mikaeld has quit IRC [20:47:35] *** alanc-away has quit IRC [20:47:35] *** bedlam has quit IRC [20:47:35] *** infinity2 has quit IRC [20:47:37] *** Tiger^ has quit IRC [20:47:37] *** ChanServ has quit IRC [20:47:40] <dsch04> dsop: ^^^ [20:47:44] *** FreakGuard has quit IRC [20:47:44] <e^ipi> google://dns [20:48:26] *** biafra has quit IRC [20:48:56] *** alanc-away has joined #opensolaris [20:48:56] *** Tiger^ has joined #opensolaris [20:48:56] *** infinity2 has joined #opensolaris [20:48:56] *** bedlam has joined #opensolaris [20:48:56] *** mikaeld has joined #opensolaris [20:48:56] *** delewis has joined #opensolaris [20:48:56] *** Odin- has joined #opensolaris [20:48:56] *** sladegen has joined #opensolaris [20:48:56] *** tsoome has joined #opensolaris [20:48:56] *** jamesd has joined #opensolaris [20:48:56] *** ChanServ has joined #opensolaris [20:48:56] *** irc.freenode.net sets mode: +ooo alanc-away jamesd ChanServ [20:49:35] *** victori has joined #opensolaris [20:50:31] *** jtmuzix has quit IRC [20:52:24] <StayTuned> e^ipi I am looking at wikipedia's entry on dns [20:52:31] <e^ipi> good [20:52:44] <StayTuned> why? [20:52:57] <e^ipi> because you can't resolve your server's name [20:53:08] <e^ipi> hence, you need a name service, or fake it with /etc/hosts [20:53:28] <e^ipi> or modify the apache config file so it doesn't care [20:53:34] <StayTuned> e^ipi I can resolve it [20:53:40] <StayTuned> I have in the past [20:53:45] <StayTuned> I can't remember [20:54:07] <StayTuned> I have biz class service so port 80 is open [20:54:26] <StayTuned> I know it has to do with the computer name [20:54:55] <e^ipi> you are talking about many different things at the same time [20:55:22] <e^ipi> connecting to http://localhost on the machine running apache, does that work? [20:55:22] <StayTuned> I guess [20:55:29] <StayTuned> no [20:55:44] <e^ipi> okay, so apache is broken, go fix the config files [20:55:49] <StayTuned> I have port forwarded 192.168.1.100 to [20:55:56] <e^ipi> stop. no. [20:55:59] <e^ipi> different thing entirely [20:56:12] <e^ipi> forget about what you're port forwarding and focus on the server [20:56:13] <StayTuned> ok [20:56:40] <StayTuned> thanks for the clarity [20:56:43] <StayTuned> also [20:56:47] <e^ipi> if that machine can't connect to itself, then apache isn't working. "svcs -a | grep apache" [20:56:53] <e^ipi> see if it's even enabled [20:56:54] <StayTuned> there are 2 different apachectl files for 2.2 [20:57:04] <StayTuned> one is for amd64 [20:57:13] <StayTuned> I am using amd64 [20:57:37] <e^ipi> so then the 64 bit service needs to be enabled [20:58:13] <e^ipi> wait, what? what amd64? [20:58:21] <e^ipi> use SMF to manage your services [20:58:29] <e^ipi> don't touch apachectl [20:58:34] <e^ipi> svcadm enable http:apache22 [20:58:52] *** boyd has joined #opensolaris [20:59:14] <abisen> is there a ZFS API that provides hooks to ZFS management ? [20:59:42] <StayTuned> doesn't match any instances [20:59:57] *** Teo` has joined #opensolaris [20:59:59] <Triskelios> StayTuned: it's called apache2 [21:00:25] <e^ipi> it's http:apache22 on my machine *shrug* [21:00:39] <e^ipi> fully qualified svc:/network/http:apache22 [21:01:53] <Tobbe> jamesd: How does "Lighting Control" work? [21:02:20] *** boyd_ has quit IRC [21:02:31] <StayTuned> I installed amp-dev [21:02:41] <StayTuned> did I do something wrong here? [21:02:57] <Triskelios> StayTuned: what does that have to do with apache? [21:03:12] <StayTuned> amp = apache mysql php [21:03:36] <StayTuned> or is that just a wrapper for it? [21:03:42] <e^ipi> StayTuned: svcs -a | grep apache [21:03:49] *** Raroko-chan has joined #opensolaris [21:03:54] <StayTuned> nothing comes up e&ipi [21:04:00] <e^ipi> then apache isn't installed [21:04:08] <StayTuned> ok [21:04:15] <StayTuned> what is the package called? [21:05:56] <StayTuned> maybe I'm on to something now [21:06:17] *** Fish has quit IRC [21:06:19] <Triskelios> e^ipi: seems both apache2 and apache22 exist on my computer (which is odd) [21:06:50] <StayTuned> yes [21:07:07] <StayTuned> now I remember [21:07:13] <StayTuned> something about zfs [21:07:25] <e^ipi> you rolled back to an old BE ? [21:07:28] <StayTuned> you have to make an apache instance [21:07:48] <Triskelios> StayTuned: no you don't [21:07:51] <e^ipi> instance of what? [21:08:15] <e^ipi> package is SUNWapch2 [21:08:21] <Triskelios> anyway, the set of apache packages seems to be: SUNWapch2r SUNWapache22r SUNWapache2u SUNWapch22u [21:08:32] <StayTuned> I seem to have that [21:08:34] <Triskelios> er, SUNWapch22r there [21:08:42] <e^ipi> Triskelios: r/u are only on SXCE/previous [21:08:48] <e^ipi> they've been merged for IPS [21:08:58] <Triskelios> e^ipi: ah [21:09:23] <xRaich[o]2x> anyone in here got the vlc mozilla plugin to work? [21:10:01] *** StayTuned has quit IRC [21:11:57] *** StayTuned has joined #opensolaris [21:12:09] *** wewek has quit IRC [21:12:16] <StayTuned> don't you have to make a zone for apache to work? [21:12:22] <e^ipi> no, why would you? [21:12:24] <e^ipi> you can [21:12:26] <e^ipi> I do [21:12:29] <e^ipi> but you don't have to [21:12:36] <StayTuned> I remember something about zones [21:12:45] *** Rarok has quit IRC [21:12:47] <StayTuned> I don't have the manual in hand though [21:12:48] <e^ipi> zones allow you to segregate your services [21:13:05] <e^ipi> they're a super-lightweight virtualization [21:13:22] <StayTuned> ok [21:13:34] *** AxeZ has joined #opensolaris [21:13:35] <StayTuned> so they are kind of like a vdi file [21:13:41] <e^ipi> no [21:13:44] <e^ipi> they're a zone [21:13:48] <e^ipi> more like a chroot [21:13:57] <e^ipi> but more sane [21:14:06] <e^ipi> & robust [21:14:13] <Triskelios> what's a vdi file? [21:14:25] <e^ipi> vmware stuff [21:14:28] <StayTuned> they are from VirtualBox [21:14:36] <StayTuned> virtual disk [21:14:36] <e^ipi> or w/e [21:15:48] <StayTuned> I'm trying to think about what to do next. It appears I have the SUNWapach packages [21:16:27] <StayTuned> apparently not [21:16:38] <e^ipi> SUNWapch2 ? [21:16:55] <StayTuned> I just installed Sunwapach [21:17:07] *** Archite has quit IRC [21:17:09] <e^ipi> i'm not asking you gently. install SUNWapch2 [21:17:39] *** Archite` has joined #OpenSolaris [21:18:45] <StayTuned> 22 [21:18:54] <e^ipi> yes [21:19:31] *** ninjaslim has joined #opensolaris [21:19:50] *** pjfloyd has joined #opensolaris [21:20:15] <StayTuned> still "doesn't match any instances" [21:20:50] *** Erwann has quit IRC [21:22:58] <e^ipi> do a refresh, it's in there [21:23:15] *** klg has quit IRC [21:23:24] <StayTuned> what kind of refresh? [21:23:28] <e^ipi> pkg [21:23:48] <StayTuned> ok [21:24:23] <e^ipi> SUNWapch22d too, likely [21:28:18] <StayTuned> got it [21:28:26] <StayTuned> I think [21:29:13] <StayTuned> 81278kb [21:30:08] <StayTuned> man I'm glad I have you around e^ipi [21:30:22] <StayTuned> I'd have been pulling my hair out for another 4 hours [21:32:44] *** hajma has joined #opensolaris [21:36:04] <hajma> Hi, how do I add more swap to opensolaris? I need temporarily add 1 GB more. Thanks for any pointers. Finally I found that swap files aren't supported "zfs, so what do I do? [21:36:17] *** bigjocker has quit IRC [21:36:27] <e^ipi> swap -a [21:36:39] <e^ipi> you can create a zvol for swap [21:36:46] <quasi> or add a file [21:36:52] <e^ipi> or add a file, yes [21:36:57] <hajma> files do not work [21:37:19] <Triskelios> StayTuned: this is why pkg has a search command [21:37:22] *** Gekz has quit IRC [21:37:23] *** kim0 has joined #opensolaris [21:37:40] <StayTuned> yes - I have installed the package [21:37:49] <Triskelios> hajma: usually rpool/swap and rpool/dump exist by default [21:37:51] <StayTuned> by default it should go to port 80 [21:37:55] <StayTuned> correct? [21:38:04] <e^ipi> StayTuned: depends on your config file. [21:38:21] <Triskelios> default is probably port 80, might be localhost-only [21:38:33] <hajma> Triskelios: I have swap but need more of it [21:38:59] <e^ipi> so use swap(1M) [21:39:04] <Triskelios> hajma: just create another zvol (disable swap and destroy the old swap first if you want...) [21:40:46] *** Tobbe is now known as Tobbe|autoaway [21:45:04] <hajma> Triskelios: found http://www.solarisinternals.com/wiki/index.php/ZFS_Troubleshooting_Guide#Resizing_ZFS_Swap_and_Dump_Devices . It worked. For some reason I had to remove the swap entry from vfstab to make swap -a happy. [21:45:05] *** tCzern has quit IRC [21:45:17] *** noyb has quit IRC [21:48:08] *** luc^ has joined #opensolaris [21:48:23] *** StayTuned has quit IRC [21:50:27] *** mega has quit IRC [21:52:42] *** bigjocker has joined #opensolaris [21:52:55] <Triskelios> hajma: as long as it's been re-added to vfstab it's fine (otherwise it'll be forgotten next boot) [21:53:07] <simplexio> anyine using nexenta ? is it any good ? and is is easy to use if i have few years experience from linux/ubuntu/debian/gentoo [21:53:46] <victori> how would you check which arch you booted into? [21:54:00] <jamesd> simplexio, i thought it was cool when i used it a couple years ago... but like how SXCE keeps up to date on solaris changes. [21:54:07] <codestr0m> victori: isainfo [21:54:09] <jamesd> isainfo -v [21:54:16] <codestr0m> jamesd: beat you :) [21:54:22] <codestr0m> , but yes.. need the -v [21:54:22] <victori> thanks [21:54:34] <victori> codestr0m: think booting into 32-bit might force disks to work correctly? [21:54:42] <codestr0m> victori: doubtful [21:54:52] <victori> might be an ahci 64-bit DMA issue [21:56:16] <simplexio> jamesd: whixh you would recommend for man who is familiar with linux/ubuntu, but still wants to run opensolaris with latest software in home server [21:57:34] <victori> simplexio: make sure everything works first correctly [21:57:44] <jamesd> SXCE is my choice.... but of course by running solaris you are making a statement that you don't care about the latest software besides ZFS and DTrace... if you want the latest bleeding edge linux is availbile. [21:58:24] <simplexio> thanks. thats want i wanted to hear [21:58:25] <jbit> or nexenta [21:58:51] <Triskelios> jamesd: I don't agree with the "by running solaris you are making a statement that you don't care about the latest software besides ZFS and DTrace" [21:58:55] <simplexio> zfs raised my intrest [21:59:45] <simplexio> planning to add few harddrives to "new" server and started to think options software raid-5 or zfs+raidz [21:59:46] <jamesd> if you want the bleeding edge its not going to be easy on solaris, for instance kde 4.x is still a ways away for support on solaris. [21:59:56] *** vertigo- has quit IRC [22:01:35] *** skylance has quit IRC [22:01:38] <simplexio> not intrested about desktop stuff, i allready have ubuntu desktop. i was thinking about fileserver, maybe some ldap+kerberos or similiar auth systems for home network [22:01:54] <Triskelios> jamesd: kde4 works, with these being the only known issues: http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/KDE_on_Solaris/Status [22:01:54] <e^ipi> just run the official "opensolaris" distro [22:01:56] <e^ipi> it's fine... [22:02:47] <simplexio> and maybe java+apache+php+postgresql based web/db development [22:03:21] *** skylance has joined #opensolaris [22:03:52] <Triskelios> simplexio: opensolaris 2008.11 should be pretty good for that [22:04:48] <jamesd> Triskelios, not so well on sparc, i'm trying to build it... but not having much luck.. just a lot of gnu/x86'isms that make it painful [22:05:22] *** derchris has quit IRC [22:05:29] *** derchris has joined #opensolaris [22:07:12] <simplexio> im lazy nowdays, few years back i used gentoo now i use ubuntu and what i like alot is that there is pretty much all packages that i need [22:07:42] <sickness> simplexio: shame on you, you should use openbsd >:P [22:07:49] <e^ipi> meh, our repo is filling up slowly bu surely [22:08:01] <Triskelios> jamesd: all the gnuisms are taken care of if you follow the official instructions... [22:08:01] <e^ipi> ubuntu only has a 10 year head start on us [22:08:09] <sickness> just joking, no pun or flames intended =) [22:08:31] <simplexio> so actual question is: if open source and it works in linux, can i attleast compile all needed programs to opensolaris without big problems [22:08:58] <simplexio> sickness: maybe i try it someday [22:09:02] <e^ipi> unless the apps are broken and use linux-specific features [22:09:03] <jamesd> Triskelios, then its the x86 stuff that makes it painful... i get lots and lots of failed dependencies.. i have talked to evocallaghan he is working on porting it to sparc [22:09:12] <Triskelios> simplexio: depends on what you need, but generally yes. there are several packaging projects to make this easier [22:10:52] <jamesd> package | status | details [22:10:53] <jamesd> KDEconsolidation | DEP_FAILED | Dependency check failed [22:10:53] <jamesd> KDElibs | DEP_FAILED | Dependency check failed [22:10:53] <jamesd> FOSSsoprano | DEP_FAILED | Dependency check failed [22:10:59] <tsoome> gcc'sms, linuxisms, x86'isms. rest is just broken code:) [22:11:18] <e^ipi> i'd consider those 3 to be broken code as well [22:11:23] *** bigjocker has quit IRC [22:11:29] <tsoome> true [22:11:45] <jamesd> all code is broken, it's just the degree of brokeness that changes. [22:11:58] <e^ipi> when not wrapped in #ifdef's and there are more portable ways of doing it, it's broken [22:12:14] <tsoome> when is was building stuff myself, i usually attempted at least to use cc and not gcc, and that revealed loads of bugs [22:14:57] <dustman> endianess reveals tons of bugs [22:15:09] *** mikefut has joined #opensolaris [22:15:42] <pjfloyd> turning the warning level can be interesting (though excessively verbose) [22:17:03] *** StayTuned has joined #opensolaris [22:17:10] <StayTuned> e^ipi [22:17:14] <StayTuned> good news [22:17:22] <StayTuned> maintenance 16:11:45 svc:/network/http:apache22 [22:17:26] <pjfloyd> not that much GNUish code is developed at -Wall -Wextra -ansi -pedantic [22:17:27] *** jgracin has quit IRC [22:17:28] <Triskelios> generally if cc doesn't emit warnings that's enough for me [22:18:06] <StayTuned> however - because it is in maintenance mode [22:18:15] <Triskelios> StayTuned: svcs -xv apache22 [22:18:15] <StayTuned> I still do not see anything on localhost [22:18:45] <e^ipi> no, that's what maintenence means [22:18:47] <e^ipi> that it's broken [22:19:02] <e^ipi> there should be a log file telling you what exactly is broken [22:19:13] <e^ipi> probably a typo in your apache config files [22:19:26] <e^ipi> ( man... not-apache is way better than apache... easier and faster and less crap ) [22:19:41] <StayTuned> See: http://sun.com/msg/SMF-8000-KS [22:20:26] <Triskelios> StayTuned: read that yourself [22:23:13] <StayTuned> I am [22:23:20] <StayTuned> here's what I come up with [22:23:23] <StayTuned> mod_authn_dbd.so [22:23:31] <StayTuned> cannot be loaded on line 60 [22:24:55] <Triskelios> strange, is /usr/apache2/libexec/mod_authn_dbd.so present? [22:25:09] *** bigjocker has joined #opensolaris [22:26:55] <e^ipi> or you could just remove the load line... it's on line 60 [22:27:27] <Triskelios> it's weird though, since that's in the default httpd.conf and should work [22:31:15] *** artiflo has joined #opensolaris [22:35:10] *** bigjocker has quit IRC [22:35:16] *** bigjocker has joined #opensolaris [22:40:55] *** Cripps has joined #opensolaris [22:41:28] *** artiflo has quit IRC [22:45:30] *** e1kg has joined #OpenSolaris [22:46:28] *** pjfloyd has left #opensolaris [22:53:24] *** TT has quit IRC [22:54:44] *** hsp has quit IRC [22:57:18] *** luc^ has quit IRC [23:10:45] *** m3t4l has joined #opensolaris [23:13:16] *** Joerg has quit IRC [23:13:33] *** jub has joined #opensolaris [23:16:31] *** kenokabe has joined #opensolaris [23:16:40] *** niq has joined #opensolaris [23:17:47] *** esaxe has quit IRC [23:17:59] *** esaxe has joined #opensolaris [23:19:45] *** domas has joined #opensolaris [23:19:49] <domas> hi! [23:22:07] <domas> if 'pkg' would not be that round-trip-intensive for remote servers, it may be even usable :) [23:25:21] *** Raroko-chan has left #opensolaris [23:31:42] *** Auralis_ has joined #opensolaris [23:34:39] *** m3t4l has left #opensolaris [23:34:48] *** esaxe has quit IRC [23:35:01] *** esaxe has joined #opensolaris [23:35:51] *** freakazoid0223 has joined #opensolaris [23:36:45] *** Triskelios has quit IRC [23:40:30] *** kenokabe_ has joined #opensolaris [23:44:38] *** MeP3aBeu has joined #opensolaris [23:46:18] *** fr4g has joined #opensolaris [23:46:57] *** _Auralis has quit IRC [23:54:08] *** kenokabe has quit IRC [23:54:23] *** MeP3aBeu has quit IRC [23:55:52] <domas> um, I guess dtracing a dtrace consumer is a bad idea :) [23:56:30] *** _setuid_H has quit IRC