[00:00:21] <Asako> can I pipe zfs send to dd?
[00:00:58] <trygvis> is it possible to set the TERM that gnome terminal should use?
[00:02:16] <nachox> e^ipi, wasnt it easier to fix passwd(1)?
[00:02:25] <e^ipi> maybe *shrug*
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[00:02:40] <e^ipi> that took me 10 mins to write though so maybe not
[00:02:47] <Asako> zfs send xen/trek.phildo.org@before-sparse | dd of=/dev/zvol/dsk/xen/trek2.phildo.org
[00:02:49] <Asako> would that work?
[00:02:50] <codestr0m> trygvis: are you trying to get color?
[00:03:04] <nachox> should be easier to integrate at least since you would be modifying a braindead limitation anyway
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[00:03:35] <trygvis> no, for some reason it is suddenly exiting/dying if I press ctrl-c when doing readline stuff
[00:03:48] <comay> e^ipi, yeah took yesterday off :-)
[00:03:58] <comay> well, that plus the network was down too
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[00:04:41] <e^ipi> well you didn't need to break the network to get some time off
[00:05:02] <comay> yeah, pushing rc2 allowed for that :-)
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[00:14:49] <c00p> With opensolaris CIFS when it's on a domain are people finding that they have to re-join the domain after reboots ?
[00:16:11] <Asako> is it better to always use sparse zvols?
[00:17:49] <c00p> Asako: would depend on what your trying to do
[00:18:10] <c00p> zvols for iscsi - for nfs / cifs I use file systems ...
[00:18:16] <TomJ> I want to put some files on the default desktop JDS desktop for all users, where do I put them to do that?
[00:18:25] <Asako> I need zvols for xen
[00:18:37] <Asako> they take less space as sparse volumes
[00:18:50] <c00p> never used xen with opensolaris - not an expert there sorry
[00:19:49] <Asako> what does refer mean?
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[00:20:09] <TomJ> Asako: how much space is actually used by that filesystem, excluding its descendants
[00:20:40] <Asako> I see
[00:20:59] <TomJ> also excluding the effects of clones etc.   e.g.  a cloned filesystem might say it takes 10GB if the fs it clones takes 10gb, but its refer might say only 2mb, meaning it only differs from the original by 2mb
[00:21:39] <Asako> thanks
[00:21:51] <jbit> has anybody here got experience with motherboards with six sata ports? it seems i cant use the last two ports (drives dont show up in the bios), wondering if theres anything i hsould know about it. (I'm guessing its related to IDE legacy of two controllers with pri/mst drives)
[00:24:14] <Auralis> no, most boards use a different controler for sata ports after the first 4, might want to check the device driver util if it shows ya connected drivers for all your sata ports
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[00:25:34] <jbit> the southbridge (sb700) on this has six ports native
[00:26:01] <jbit> but yes, maybe i should not trust hte bios ;P
[00:26:33] <Asako> another question is how I'll migrate my windows lvm volumes
[00:26:40] <Asako> dd I guess
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[00:33:15] <jbit> aha, the manual actually tells me that the last two ports wont be detected in the bios in AHCI mode.... how odd
[00:33:37] <Asako> sounds dumb
[00:33:45] <jbit> i would expect the oposite
[00:33:56] <jbit> Asako: it's x86 boot crap, of course it's dumb ;P
[00:34:11] <Asako> yeah, we're stuck with it
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[00:34:36] <jbit> yay, now the kernel won't load... siiiggghhh
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[00:41:10] <jbit> that really is quite interesting, the kernel stops after the license blurb... that's a hurdle for tomorrow though
[00:41:28] <Asako> had that happen
[00:41:33] <Asako> never could fix it
[00:42:45] <jbit> well it does the same with a boot cd ;(
[00:43:05] <jbit> which implies to me that something is well and truely cocked up ;-/
[00:43:58] <Asako> a lot of times I can't even get the dvd to show the grub menu
[00:44:11] <Asako> mostly on older hardware though
[00:45:39] <jbit> this is quite new hardware ;P
[00:45:53] <jbit> and it worked before
[00:46:08] <jbit> just moved some HDDs around though
[00:46:12] <jbit> and now it fails
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[00:47:46] <Auralis> hrmm, boot from cd/dvd, mount ya root, move /etc/path_to_inst out of the way, reboot with -ba and see if the os can manage to create its device tree correctly
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[00:52:05] <jbit> Auralis: can't boot from cd/dvd ;P
[00:52:14] <Stric> try boot -s
[00:52:21] <Stric> boot -s -v   even
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[00:56:01] <jbit> stops at "npe0 is /pci@0,0"
[00:56:02] <jbit> nice
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[00:57:52] <jbit> failing during pci enumeration is probably a bad sign
[00:58:05] <jbit> guess i'll do cmos reset, etc, etc tomorrow when its not 1am ;P
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[02:34:45] <abisen> is there a way to import brandz on a new system. I moved my zpool to a new machine and need to import the brandz zones
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[02:38:17] <qiyong> how can I install /usr/src/onnv-gate? is it from a pkg in the DVD?
[02:39:29] <e^ipi> no, it's the source tree, and it's typically not in /usr/src
[02:39:46] <e^ipi> check the downloads page at opensolaris.org
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[02:41:06] <qiyong> e^ipi: so DVD/CD doesn't ship source?
[02:41:47] <nachox> no
[02:43:05] <qiyong> so we'd get source code by hg? nachox
[02:43:25] <qiyong> how much Megs is it?
[02:43:36] <e^ipi> 300 ish
[02:44:22] <e^ipi> oh, maybe closer to 500
[02:44:48] <nachox> qiyong, http://www.opensolaris.org/os/get/
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[02:48:47] <qiyong> what's the hg pkg's name?
[02:49:17] <qiyong> SUNWmercurial
[02:50:55] <nachox> see? its much faster to let you check yourself :P
[02:51:25] <qiyong> # hg
[02:51:26] <qiyong> hg: Command not found.
[02:51:39] <qiyong> # rehash
[02:51:39] <qiyong> # hg
[02:51:39] <qiyong> hg: Command not found.
[02:51:59] <qiyong> i just did # pkgadd -d . SUNWmercurial
[02:52:01] <hile_> put the appropriate director(ies) in your $PATH
[02:52:09] <qiyong> not sure if it installed python
[02:52:37] <nachox> it would have complained if you missed depps
[02:53:43] <e^ipi> /usr/bin/hg
[02:54:07] <qiyong> hg is there, but python missing
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[02:55:34] <qiyong> how to tell pkgadd automatically resolve deps?
[02:55:41] <qiyong> automatically install deps?
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[03:00:08] <qiyong> hi
[03:00:14] <qiyong> any1 knows?
[03:01:14] <qiyong> ok, i have to install each deps manually
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[03:23:38] <Michael2> Hey!~ :) if I want to use the shell to install something, what would I type?
[03:24:07] <Michael2> Like Flash for Firefox?
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[03:29:20] <tobeya> I see references to builds >101b in some of the ZFS issue notes - is there a good reference for how to get a hold of builds not in general release?
[03:29:53] <Doc> get a job with sun?
[03:32:08] <nachox> night guys, i'm off to sleep
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[03:33:58] <c00p> getting no love from sun's smb server in domain mode :(
[03:36:02] <e^ipi> tobeya: install from the tip of the hg repo?
[03:36:15] <e^ipi> could explode your system, could not
[03:36:17] <e^ipi> it's a mystery
[03:37:05] <e^ipi> currently the closed 103 gate is on the os.o website
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[03:58:37] <CIA-34> allan <Allan.Ou at Sun dot COM>: 6763327 zones fail to boot due to new nws services
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[04:26:34] <qiyong> # env - svn
[04:26:34] <qiyong> ld.so.1: svn: fatal: libaprutil-1.so.0: open failed: No such file or directory
[04:26:34] <qiyong> Killed
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[04:31:04] <qiyong> how to see my default route ?
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[04:39:02] <c00p> qiyong: netstat -rn
[04:40:12] <nuzzy> Hi all..using snv_q0qa and trying to use update manager, but it won't let me because it thinks it's the LiveCD...any ideas how to get around that?
[04:40:22] <nuzzy> snv_101a
[04:40:24] <qiyong> does solaris support the http_proxy variable? c00p
[04:40:41] <c00p> well depends on the program your using ...
[04:40:43] <c00p> wget ?
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[04:42:35] <qiyong> c00p: svn
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[04:46:08] <nuzzy> anyone?
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[04:53:37] <tobeya> e^ipi, thanks
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[05:54:02] <jc> hi
[05:56:54] <jc> im using virtual box, installing opensolaris, but i dont get internet
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[05:59:33] <jrms> jc: you have to configure the network for your virtual machine...
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[06:04:06] <jc> tnx, i got playing with ifconfig
[06:04:58] <jrms> jc: nice
[06:05:43] <jc> wich program can i use to manipulate users permisions on opensolaris?
[06:08:50] <jrms> jc: what kind off permissions?
[06:10:06] <jc> write, read, access, denied
[06:10:20] <jlr> chmod
[06:10:36] <jrms> yes, chmod
[06:10:45] <jrms> like in any other unix :)
[06:11:06] <jc> i have to demosttre in class how to manage opensolaris in a networking enviroment
[06:11:29] <bda> If you're using extended ACLs, make sure you aren't using GNU chmod.
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[06:13:06] <jc> ok, acls seems to be what im looking for
[06:13:27] <bda> Take the GNU stuff out of your PATH, or move it to the end.
[06:13:37] <bda> You'll get extremly goofy unexpected behavior otherwise.
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[07:24:04] <victori>        anyone run xvm/xen on indiana?
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[07:33:34] <Gekz> clearly you dont understand how xen works
[07:33:35] <Gekz> lol
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[07:37:24] <RavenSlay3r> is it ok to add '~/bin' to the end of my PATH or is that somthing evil that should be done for some reason?
[07:41:15] <RavenSlay3r> s/should/should not/
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[07:43:53] <wasdingo> hi
[07:44:18] <wasdingo> where can i get a list of packages in open solaris i mean url
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[07:46:40] <iuricuznetov> is anybody inthere?
[07:47:11] <gerard131> wasdingo: pkg.opensolaris.org
[07:47:23] <wasdingo> thanks
[07:48:36] <iuricuznetov> I've installed OpenSolaris 2008.05 and it seems that "root" is diasbled
[07:49:16] <gerard131> why 2008.05? genunix.org offers more recent release
[07:49:22] <iuricuznetov> is it aby way to enable the "root" user?
[07:49:23] <gerard131> and root is a role
[07:49:30] <gerard131> yes
[07:49:34] <iuricuznetov> hm
[07:49:47] <gerard131> it's explained somewhere in the online doc
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[07:49:58] <iuricuznetov> I'm a newbie in Solaris
[07:50:07] <iuricuznetov> and I do not find it
[07:50:30] <iuricuznetov> may be couse i'm not so familiar with solaris docs, yet
[07:50:43] <gerard131> instead of su-ing to root, you just use: pfexec ... (as you did with sudo on linux)
[07:50:45] <e^ipi> iuricuznetov: pfexec not good enough for you?
[07:51:31] <iuricuznetov> i did not knew about pfexec, so, please do not be angry.... ^)
[07:51:34] <iuricuznetov> :)
[07:51:53] <gerard131> try: pfexec vi /etc/shadow
[07:52:24] <yksinaisyyteni> you should never edit /etc/shadow manually, and it won't help anyway
[07:52:31] <yksinaisyyteni> roles are defined in /etc/user_attr
[07:52:38] <iuricuznetov> OK
[07:52:45] <iuricuznetov> another question
[07:53:42] <iuricuznetov> i'm trying to install CIFS server and i've found this: http://www.genunix2.org/wiki/index.php/Getting_Started_With_the_Solaris_CIFS_Service
[07:54:04] <iuricuznetov> but, i cann't do rem_drv smbsrv
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[07:54:53] <iuricuznetov> in fact:
[07:55:17] <yksinaisyyteni> you need to add /usr/sbin to your path
[07:55:22] <iuricuznetov> what ma i doing wrong?
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[07:55:24] <yksinaisyyteni> but it seems strange you'd need to mess with drivers to use cifs
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[07:57:20] <iuricuznetov> yksinaisyyteni: how can add usr/bin to my path and is there some kind of MC in OS console?
[07:57:43] <yksinaisyyteni> i'm not sure what 'MC in OS console' means, but you change environment variables like this: PATH=$PATH:/usr/sbin
[07:58:06] <iuricuznetov> MC means midnight commander
[07:58:20] <gerard131> iuricuznetov: bash is your default shell, -> .bashrc and/or .bash_profile
[07:59:57] <iuricuznetov> hm....
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[08:00:30] <iuricuznetov> guys, sorry for my stupid questions....
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[08:05:55] <iuricuznetov> oanother one
[08:07:10] <iuricuznetov> opps....
[08:07:17] <iuricuznetov> false alarm :)
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[08:46:01] <qiyong> undefined symbol
[08:46:10] <qiyong> Nov 24 15:46:11 unknown genunix: [ID 826211 kern.notice]  'ddi_quiesce_not_supported'
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[08:49:38] <qiyong> is there some onnv developement mailling list?
[08:50:12] <e^ipi> on-discuss at opensolaris dot org?
[08:50:25] <e^ipi> alternately "work at sun"
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[08:53:29] <xRaich[o]2x> morning folks.... uahhh need coffee
[08:54:28] <qiyong> e^ipi: ?
[08:54:46] <qiyong> e^ipi: any offical website refer that?
[08:54:57] <e^ipi> refer to what, working at sun?
[08:55:40] <hrist> da war knoblauch dabei :D
[08:55:51] <hrist> sorry, wrong window had focus
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[09:04:18] <e^ipi> xRaich[o]2x: coffee is lovely
[09:05:24] <xRaich[o]2x> yeah. lifesaving
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[09:06:33] <Chipdancer> does anybody here use the myk opensource driver?
[09:07:12] <hrist> mhmmmm coffee
[09:07:26] <Chipdancer> hrist: ;)  Had mine for today thanks!
[09:07:41] <hrist> just made my first one for today
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[09:12:43] <DTEIT> morning
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[09:17:53] <xRaich[o]2x> hrm... the drivers ml is not that active isn't it?
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[09:28:43] <xRaich[o]2x> i like toast brown on both sides....
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[09:32:01] <m0zzzy> hi
[09:33:27] <m0zzzy> I am stuck here with RBAC. I created very restrictive profile to only allow few commands. Commented out basic solaris user profile from policy.conf. Assigned user /bin/pfksh shell. Even if I see commands that can be executed with profile shell, I get not found for each of the command.
[09:33:43] <m0zzzy> root@gate:~#> profiles -l numb
[09:33:44] <m0zzzy>       Very Restricted User:
[09:33:44] <m0zzzy>           /bin/id
[09:33:44] <m0zzzy>           /bin/svcs
[09:34:00] <m0zzzy> root@gate:~#> su - numb
[09:34:00] <m0zzzy> {:/export/home/numb::81} /bin/svcs
[09:34:00] <m0zzzy> pfksh: /bin/svcs:  not found
[09:34:11] <m0zzzy> {:/export/home/numb::82} echo $PATH
[09:34:11] <m0zzzy> /bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sfw/bin:/usr/ccs/bin
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[09:34:29] <codestr0m> m0zzzy: use pastie please
[09:34:30] <xRaich[o]2x> pastebin -_-
[09:34:32] <m0zzzy> I really can't understand why it behaves in this way
[09:34:36] <m0zzzy> codestr0m: ok
[09:35:08] <m0zzzy> http://pastebin.com/m626354c2
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[09:35:35] <m0zzzy> was that helpful?
[09:35:57] <codestr0m> m0zzzy: hang out for a bit.. if someone can help they will. it's early morning for the eu guys
[09:41:25] <CosmicDJ> ppriv -e -D /bin/svcs ?
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[09:44:30] <codestr0m> m0zzzy: ^
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[09:48:27] <m0zzzy> CosmicDJ: it's not only about svcs, it's about all commands.
[09:48:45] <m0zzzy> ppriv is not in the list of allowed commands for user numb
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[09:52:06] <CosmicDJ> and it works with "Basic Solaris User" ?
[09:52:12] <CosmicDJ> in policy.conf
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[09:54:40] <m0zzzy> CosmicDJ: I guess you know that with Basic Solaris User user is able to execute any commands
[09:54:46] <m0zzzy> this is what I am trying to avoid
[09:56:03] <e^ipi> you can deny things to users.
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[09:56:37] <m0zzzy> e^ipi: be kind to provide example
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[09:58:55] <e^ipi> i'm trying do dig one up
[09:59:14] <m0zzzy> thanks
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[10:06:42] <e^ipi> i'm pretty sure you just prefix it with !
[10:06:59] <e^ipi> though you may be better off setting up a profile that can do nothing, and explicitly allowing things
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[10:09:12] <m0zzzy> e^ipi: I thought only privileges can be negated
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[10:10:16] <e^ipi> it's entirely possible
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[10:43:17] <Cobra-the-joker> hey there every one ...is opensolaris capable to run 3D ??
[10:43:40] <gerard13> why not?
[10:43:52] <codestr0m> Cobra-the-joker: you mean hw accelerated 3d? yes.. and depends on your video drivers mostly
[10:43:58] <gerard13> i'm using paraview on on opensolaris
[10:44:08] <gerard13> with nvidia
[10:44:33] <CosmicDJ> so you were able to compile it?
[10:44:57] <Cobra-the-joker> i have intel graphics
[10:44:59] <Cobra-the-joker> :(
[10:45:08] <Cobra-the-joker> intel 945 chipset
[10:45:09] <Cobra-the-joker> :(
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[10:45:22] <Cobra-the-joker> supported on solaris ...or just like linux ?
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[10:46:23] <xRaich[o]2x> i guess with "capable to run 3D" you mean running compiz? or am i wrong?
[10:46:55] <Cobra-the-joker> yeah ..sort of ...but not compiz only ...i meen like blender and other stuff
[10:47:07] <Cobra-the-joker> coz i have work to do there
[10:47:22] <xRaich[o]2x> nah running blender on an intel chipset doesn't really make sense
[10:47:47] <Cobra-the-joker> its running on fedora 9 very cool actually
[10:48:15] <Cobra-the-joker> its not very heavy work though
[10:48:32] <xRaich[o]2x> that's what i meant ;)
[10:49:33] <Cobra-the-joker> so ...can it run 3D or what ?
[10:49:50] <xRaich[o]2x> never tried it. the 3d support on this chipset is pretty unstable. i tried it just for fun with compiz. worked on older releases but not sure if the new builds work.
[10:50:14] <Cobra-the-joker> so intel worked on opensolaris ?
[10:50:23] <xRaich[o]2x> test it: submit a bugreport
[10:50:31] <xRaich[o]2x> i have 2 laptops here with intel chipsets
[10:50:37] <xRaich[o]2x> but running opensolaris
[10:50:40] <xRaich[o]2x> both
[10:51:00] <Cobra-the-joker> i am having here Dell inspiron 6400
[10:51:07] <Cobra-the-joker> i installed ubuntu
[10:51:21] <Cobra-the-joker> worked gr8 with grfx
[10:51:29] <Cobra-the-joker> fedora sucked with grfx
[10:51:36] <xRaich[o]2x> opensolaris != linux ;)
[10:51:42] <Cobra-the-joker> totally glitchy
[10:51:44] <Cobra-the-joker> yeah
[10:51:46] <Cobra-the-joker> i know
[10:52:03] <xRaich[o]2x> if you want 3d support please file bugreports if it works be happy ^^
[10:52:11] <Cobra-the-joker> :D
[10:52:38] <Cobra-the-joker> Ok ....now to the important part ...is there is any thing in the insallation that worth remembering ?
[10:52:52] <xRaich[o]2x> I never tried blender on opensolaris. might work though
[10:53:05] <xRaich[o]2x> what do you mean?
[10:53:11] <Cobra-the-joker> i am having opensolaris CD right now ....and want to install it
[10:53:21] <xRaich[o]2x> you should remember your password
[10:53:26] <Cobra-the-joker> i want to know if there is some hard part in the middle
[10:53:29] <Cobra-the-joker> loooool
[10:53:34] <Cobra-the-joker> nice advice :D
[10:53:40] <xRaich[o]2x> if you can install ubuntu you can install opensolaris ;)
[10:53:48] <xRaich[o]2x> a chimp actually could ;)
[10:53:53] <Cobra-the-joker> mmm...cool
[10:54:02] <Cobra-the-joker> does it needs a swap space like linux
[10:54:10] <Cobra-the-joker> or just the ZFS drive
[10:54:11] <Cobra-the-joker> ?
[10:54:12] <xRaich[o]2x> solaris handles it
[10:54:18] <xRaich[o]2x> it's zvol afaik
[10:54:28] <Cobra-the-joker> zvol afaik ?
[10:54:50] <xRaich[o]2x> i fixed size volume inside the zpool
[10:54:55] <xRaich[o]2x> you don't need to worry about that
[10:55:02] <xRaich[o]2x> the installer creates it
[10:55:34] <asyd> \_o<
[10:55:36] <Cobra-the-joker> xRaich[o]2x , so ....you have been with OS for a while ...is it Good (better than ubu )?
[10:56:06] <xRaich[o]2x> Cobra-the-joker: i used linux for over a decade, been a die hard use. opensolaris took 5 minutes to make me switch
[10:56:14] <xRaich[o]2x> it's good for me ;)
[10:56:16] <Okona> .oO(Once ZFS, you never look back)
[10:56:21] <Cobra-the-joker> mmmm
[10:56:25] <xRaich[o]2x> dtrace you never look back :)
[10:56:27] <Cobra-the-joker> toooo nice
[10:56:33] <Cobra-the-joker> Ok ....last question
[10:56:36] <xRaich[o]2x> zones you never look back :P
[10:56:38] <xRaich[o]2x> etc etc :)
[10:56:42] <Okona> (((-:
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[10:56:51] <Cobra-the-joker> lol
[10:57:05] <palowoda> Throw in SMF also.
[10:57:08] <xRaich[o]2x> really depends on your use case. you need to relearn stuff
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[10:57:15] <xRaich[o]2x> palowoda: ack
[10:57:19] <xRaich[o]2x> smf is great
[10:57:22] <Cobra-the-joker> i have a usb modem ...would it work ....and about wirless ..i use broadcom ...how about the support of these two ?
[10:57:46] <xRaich[o]2x> dunno. maybe you need ndiswrapper magic. i'm not familiar with it though
[10:57:51] <xRaich[o]2x> broadcom is a pain
[10:58:08] <xRaich[o]2x> had a notebook with it. wouldn't run on any os
[10:58:19] <xRaich[o]2x> well maybe windows but i didn't try that
[10:58:22] <fraggeln> works on any real OS :D
[10:58:52] <Cobra-the-joker> i have wireless on fedora and windows
[10:59:10] <Cobra-the-joker> net access is very essential
[10:59:47] <xRaich[o]2x> wireless might work at home, i did here. but once i left my known realm the driver started to screw up
[10:59:58] <Cobra-the-joker> :D
[11:00:28] <xRaich[o]2x> the opensource drivers can't run the card with full transmission power
[11:00:35] <palowoda> Ahroes wireless is still by far the better support open sourced wireless cards.
[11:00:41] <xRaich[o]2x> at least the last time i tried it with my bcm
[11:01:04] <xRaich[o]2x> intel is pretty good also
[11:01:17] <palowoda> Yeah they just came in later.
[11:01:20] <Cobra-the-joker> bcm worked fine actually with me ...i just want to know if i can install it on OS
[11:01:59] <palowoda> Broadcom is not exactly open with wireless.
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[11:02:03] <Cobra-the-joker> this problem could stop me from installing the system....VERY ESSENTIAL
[11:02:10] <xRaich[o]2x> Cobra-the-joker: the best answer i can give you right now is: ask in the forums or google it. i think there is a way to do it with ndiswrapper ut that's rather ugly
[11:02:56] <Cobra-the-joker> mmm
[11:02:58] <Cobra-the-joker> Ok
[11:03:05] <xRaich[o]2x> Cobra-the-joker: if it doesn't work maybe you could file an rfe for bcm support. maybe you will be heard ^^
[11:03:27] <Cobra-the-joker> maybe ???...lol
[11:03:49] <xRaich[o]2x> Cobra-the-joker: but do yourself a favor. if you buy a new notebook. don't buy that stuff ;)
[11:04:16] <Cobra-the-joker> :D...i will take care next time
[11:04:16] <xRaich[o]2x> broadcom is even worse than sis also known as shit in silicon
[11:04:19] <palowoda> Broadcom would rather die than support Solaris with wireless drivers.
[11:04:47] <Cobra-the-joker> dont know why you hate it that much
[11:04:54] <xRaich[o]2x> they never gave a shit about supporting anything but windows and mac
[11:05:02] <Cobra-the-joker> it work very nicely ...(when installed ^-^)
[11:05:10] <Cobra-the-joker> aha
[11:06:12] <Cobra-the-joker> so ...my broadcom NIC wouldnt also work ?
[11:06:15] <xRaich[o]2x> Cobra-the-joker: i hate it since it wouldn't work on any os here ;)
[11:06:18] <xRaich[o]2x> not even linux
[11:06:34] <Cobra-the-joker> mmm
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[11:06:48] <xRaich[o]2x> Cobra-the-joker: as i said before: ask in the forums or google it up
[11:06:54] <Cobra-the-joker> Ok
[11:06:56] <palowoda> Err some versions of broadcom nic's work with Solaris.
[11:07:01] <leptir> whois Cobra-the-joker
[11:07:06] <xRaich[o]2x> maybe someone could get it to work
[11:08:23] <xRaich[o]2x> Cobra-the-joker: http://homepage2.nifty.com/mrym3/taiyodo/eng/ <- have a look maybe they have 3rd party drivers
[11:09:10] <xRaich[o]2x> Cobra-the-joker: maybe yours is supported by default. just check with the livecd and the device utility
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[11:09:22] <Cobra-the-joker> Ok
[11:09:43] <Cobra-the-joker> where i can find this device utility
[11:10:28] <xRaich[o]2x> Cobra-the-joker: livecd icon on the desktop
[11:10:29] <palowoda> What model?
[11:10:48] <palowoda> model of broadcom?
[11:11:04] <Cobra-the-joker> b43
[11:11:24] <Cobra-the-joker> you meen the NIC ?
[11:11:31] <palowoda> Yes NIC
[11:12:17] <Cobra-the-joker> broadcom corporation BCM4401-BO 100Base-TX
[11:12:19] <Cobra-the-joker> :D
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[11:13:07] <palowoda> Oh Lordy, what kind of system is this that has that old chipset?
[11:13:20] <Cobra-the-joker> DEll ispiron 6400 :D
[11:13:26] <xRaich[o]2x> how much ram?
[11:13:30] <Cobra-the-joker> 512
[11:13:37] <palowoda> Forget it.
[11:13:40] <xRaich[o]2x> yep
[11:13:53] <Cobra-the-joker> wont work :(?
[11:13:59] <palowoda> Lost cause
[11:13:59] <xRaich[o]2x> opensolaris won't run on toasters ;)
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[11:14:14] <Cobra-the-joker> lol
[11:14:14] <palowoda> You need a real machine.
[11:14:37] <Cobra-the-joker> dont know ...but it seemed pretty strong :(
[11:14:38] <xRaich[o]2x> opensolaris is quite modern so you need a modern machine
[11:14:43] <xRaich[o]2x> it is
[11:14:51] <xRaich[o]2x> that's why it needs power ;)
[11:14:53] <Cobra-the-joker> i meen my lappy
[11:14:59] <Cobra-the-joker> :D
[11:15:30] <Cobra-the-joker> fedora is stronger than OS ..and working very cool actually at the moment
[11:16:30] <xRaich[o]2x> i doubt that. but this conversation would only lead to trolling. "my os is better than yours" never makes sense
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[11:16:52] <Cobra-the-joker> sorry for that
[11:17:43] <Cobra-the-joker> but what i need to say is that my lappy handeled a strong system ...shouldnt be problem to make it work here ...i guess at least
[11:17:48] <xRaich[o]2x> if you have a small machine *bsd and linux are better suited
[11:18:08] <Cobra-the-joker> mmm
[11:18:09] <Cobra-the-joker> Ok
[11:18:28] <xRaich[o]2x> if you have a strong machine solaris will crush both of them on the same hardware
[11:18:45] <tsoome> well, i had to deal with linux and faulting hw last week. I fail to see anything strong in linux.
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[11:19:20] <palowoda> Actually with graphics works that type of laptop might be useless to begin with.
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[11:19:46] <Cobra-the-joker> tsoome , what you installed as a distro ??
[11:19:52] <Cobra-the-joker> yeah
[11:20:02] <tsoome> sles 10
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[11:20:13] <Cobra-the-joker> whats sles 10 ?
[11:20:14] <tsoome> as it was prepackaged with app
[11:20:24] <tsoome> suse enterprise
[11:20:24] <Cobra-the-joker> opensuse 10 ?
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[11:20:53] <phimic> tsoome: i use sles 10 what is the problem?
[11:20:59] <Cobra-the-joker> dont know ...but suse enterprise is actually one of the coolest
[11:22:20] <tsoome> whats problem? it fails to announce issues like failing disk, no dump is done, in case of faults, it mostly does reset and maybe boots up.
[11:22:44] <tsoome> dmesg will show messages without timestamps
[11:22:46] <tsoome> and so on
[11:22:53] <Cobra-the-joker> you installed it wrong ..you can make sure of that
[11:22:59] <Cobra-the-joker> or bad image
[11:23:01] <tsoome> basically useless, if you need to know what happened, when and why
[11:23:16] <yksinaisyyteni> linux not doing crash dumps is one of the most annoying problems
[11:23:17] <tsoome> i told it was faulty HW issue
[11:23:29] <yksinaisyyteni> how are you meant to fix anything when you don't know what's wrong?
[11:23:38] <phimic> tsoome: have you did a memcheck
[11:23:50] <tsoome> but point is, it provides *NO* means to analyze and detect.
[11:24:21] <tsoome> phimic: ffs i told it was faulty HW, its known already
[11:24:22] <xRaich[o]2x> yes observability really is a critical issue
[11:25:02] <Cobra-the-joker> xRaich[o]2x , if i increased the ram ...should i able to run OS smoothly ...or i cant ?
[11:25:05] <tsoome> and guess what - it was solaris what told me at once exactly whats wrong...
[11:25:05] <Cobra-the-joker> 2G's
[11:25:16] * xRaich[o]2x is debugging a solaris driver right now. it's amazing how much information i can get out of the system
[11:25:34] <palowoda> By the way the Wiki Sun announcement was kind of cool.
[11:26:10] <xRaich[o]2x> Cobra-the-joker: i don't know about the rest of your hardware. you should first check the other stuff with the livecd. otherwise it's just wasted money
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[11:26:52] <Cobra-the-joker> is there is a mem check before installation
[11:26:54] <Cobra-the-joker> ?
[11:27:37] <xRaich[o]2x> it installs on a system with 512mb ram but it doesn't make any sense to work with that
[11:27:43] <xRaich[o]2x> trust me
[11:27:44] <xRaich[o]2x> i tried
[11:27:50] <Cobra-the-joker> too slow ?
[11:27:56] <xRaich[o]2x> yeah
[11:28:07] <xRaich[o]2x> and by slow i mean SLOW
[11:28:20] <Cobra-the-joker> i have 1.73 Dual core intel ..32 bit :P
[11:28:29] <xRaich[o]2x> that's another issue
[11:28:36] <xRaich[o]2x> 64-bit ftw
[11:28:54] <Cobra-the-joker> OS is for 64 only ??
[11:29:05] <xRaich[o]2x> no
[11:29:13] <Cobra-the-joker> what is ftw ?
[11:29:18] <xRaich[o]2x> for the win ;)
[11:29:33] <Cobra-the-joker> lol
[11:29:44] <xRaich[o]2x> solaris runs on 32-bit but a lot o people in here want that this support gets dropped
[11:30:00] <Cobra-the-joker> looooooool ....why is that
[11:30:04] <palowoda> Wasn't that model a Core Duo capable of 64bit or you don't know?
[11:30:11] <xRaich[o]2x> i can sympathize with that
[11:30:54] <xRaich[o]2x> Cobra-the-joker: solaris has been 64-bit for over a decade now. it was 64-bit when a lot of people didn't even know that something like that existed
[11:30:58] <tsoome> by dropping 32bit you mean dropping 32bit kernel i guess?
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[11:31:31] <palowoda> Note using the Intel graphics chips with graphics works is kind of a joke these days.
[11:31:41] <xRaich[o]2x> tsoome: yep
[11:31:51] <tsoome> thats reasonable ofc:)
[11:31:53] <palowoda> I thought Dell would do something more serious with ATI or Nvidia.
[11:31:56] <yksinaisyyteni> palowoda: Core Duo is not 64-bit afaik
[11:32:05] <yksinaisyyteni> it was added in core 2
[11:32:14] <palowoda> Oh crap your right.
[11:32:25] <palowoda> So Core do is kind of a piece of crap.
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[11:32:42] <Cobra-the-joker> actually ...this lappy wasnt designed for games ...was designed for programming issues and  good IT support
[11:32:54] <xRaich[o]2x> yksinaisyyteni: i have a Core Duo here that can do it. i was actually very surprised.
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[11:33:02] <palowoda> Maybe a good terminal.
[11:33:20] <xRaich[o]2x> yksinaisyyteni: dunno if it really as a Core Duo but it was advertised as one. didn't double check
[11:33:37] <xRaich[o]2x> Thinkpad R61i
[11:33:53] <Cobra-the-joker> palowoda , so what you use as a processor ?
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[11:34:26] <palowoda> Dual core Althlons.  My laptop has a 7800GTX Nvidia in it.
[11:34:33] <palowoda> Athlon.
[11:34:33] <yksinaisyyteni> xRaich[o]2x: R64[i] is core 2
[11:34:52] <Cobra-the-joker> aha 64-bit
[11:34:56] <yksinaisyyteni> sorry, 61, not 64
[11:34:58] <palowoda> Actually I want one of the quad core laptops.
[11:35:15] <xRaich[o]2x> yksinaisyyteni: crazy ^^ they advertised it as a Core Duo. thanks
[11:35:17] <Cobra-the-joker> am same as you ...but 32-bit ^-^
[11:36:02] <Cobra-the-joker> me too
[11:36:11] <Cobra-the-joker> quad core rox for sure
[11:36:16] <Cobra-the-joker> but expensive
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[11:36:51] <Cobra-the-joker> i guess that phenom is better ...right ?
[11:37:02] <Cobra-the-joker> better than intel
[11:37:03] <Cobra-the-joker> ?
[11:37:50] <palowoda> Something like this: http://www.sagernotebook.com/product_customed.php?pid=29175
[11:39:33] <Cobra-the-joker> :D
[11:39:41] <Cobra-the-joker> X-X
[11:40:00] <sickness> morning all
[11:40:02] * Cobra-the-joker shuts his mouth after seeing the lappy
[11:40:05] <Cobra-the-joker> :D
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[11:40:35] <Cobra-the-joker> ofcourse my laptop is a reck when comparing it with that one
[11:40:49] <Cobra-the-joker> but after all mine is Dell
[11:40:53] <Cobra-the-joker> :D
[11:40:56] <palowoda> I have a Sager 9750 I just want to upgrade. :)
[11:41:02] <xRaich[o]2x> Cobra-the-joker: i bought a cheap thinkpad sl500 upgraded it to 4GB
[11:41:26] <xRaich[o]2x> that thing slays
[11:41:35] <Cobra-the-joker> what ?
[11:41:45] <evocallaghan> Hey, Has anyone tried the Asus M3N-H/HDMI with Solaris yet ? I can't find much on google..
[11:41:58] <xRaich[o]2x> various kinds of mammals
[11:42:19] <evocallaghan> xRaich[o]2x:Hey, :)
[11:42:23] <xRaich[o]2x> hey dude
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[11:45:12] <iMax> does anyone know roughly how much space is required to update opensolaris 2008.05? I now run snv_99 but updating fails with diskspace error. Got about 3 GB left ...
[11:45:54] <sickness> yeah, lots of space you'd need more than 3gb
[11:46:02] <iMax> *sigh*
[11:46:18] <iMax> can I add a disk to the rpool?
[11:46:34] <iMax> I failed to do so ... but I have very little experience with zfs
[11:46:51] <palowoda> 3gb * $1.29 a Gig equals a Big Mac hamberger.
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[11:49:40] <palowoda> 1T disks should be 99.00 in a month or two.
[11:50:04] <IvanR_> iMax: Any old BEs you could delete? Or you could get rid of pkg's cache in /var/pkg/download if you've done several image-updates.
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[11:53:54] <iMax> IvanR_: yes I deleted one old BE already. did not try to clear the cache yet ... will do
[11:54:36] <codestr0m> I swear a lot of you guys must try to sell hw as a living for how you look at things :P
[11:54:53] <codestr0m> (I'm just as bad in other ways)
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[11:55:27] <CosmicDJ> <- doesn't need a quadcore lapdog
[11:55:38] <CosmicDJ> nor 1TB storage at home ;)
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[11:55:51] <palowoda> You will don't worry.
[11:55:59] <fraggeln> 256kb should be enough for everyone :D
[11:56:00] <tsoome1> dont mind 1TB storage:P
[11:56:07] <fraggeln> 7.5TB here :D
[11:56:16] <palowoda> 8T at home here.
[11:56:20] <fraggeln> or 75TB in a zpool :D
[11:56:23] <CosmicDJ> wtf, are you mirroring youporn?
[11:56:35] <Gekz> redtube.
[11:57:08] <trygvis> anyone know what can cause /var/log/syslog to be rotated, but the new file not used?
[11:57:09] <fraggeln> diskbackup storage :)
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[11:57:15] <sickness> i've 8x320gb disks (raidz2), I'd like to switch to 8x1Tb ones as soon as possible =)
[11:57:19] <palowoda> All my home movies.  Porn that nobody will watch becuase they would be grossed out.
[11:57:25] <trygvis> I've seen it happen on several systems
[11:57:35] <CosmicDJ> trygvis: missing SIGHUP to syslogd?
[11:57:58] <palowoda> Fry's had 1T Western Digital drives on sale for 129.00 this week.
[11:58:18] <palowoda> zpool eats them up.
[11:58:25] <CosmicDJ> trygvis: logadm should take care of this, though
[11:58:39] <trygvis> yeah..
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[11:59:12] <trygvis> still no messages in syslog though
[11:59:19] <fraggeln> NAME         USED  AVAIL  REFER  MOUNTPOINT
[11:59:19] <fraggeln> dbu         68.1T  6.44T  29.5K  /dbu
[11:59:21] <fraggeln> :)
[11:59:47] <CosmicDJ> hm, maybe there is nothing to log right now?! ;)
[12:00:44] <trygvis> I just tried with logger(1)
[12:01:01] <trygvis> and it is an smtpd/imapd server so there should be a lot of traffic
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[12:02:25] <Chipdancer> fraggeln: that's one nice zpool!
[12:03:01] <fraggeln> Chipdancer: aye :)
[12:03:08] <fraggeln> 6 12.5TB iscsi-luns :)
[12:03:12] <Chipdancer> fraggeln: how is it backed?
[12:03:25] <fraggeln> Chipdancer: its not, its used for diskbased backups :D
[12:03:32] <fraggeln> ie, its the backup :)
[12:04:44] <Chipdancer> how are you pooling together that much storage though?
[12:04:49] <CosmicDJ> and how do you backup your files there? rsync? enterprise backup app?
[12:05:01] <Chipdancer> how are those 6 12.5TB iSCSI LUNs backed?
[12:05:04] <fraggeln> CosmicDJ: bacula :D
[12:05:13] <fraggeln> CosmicDJ: they are not, they are the backupsystem.
[12:05:16] <fraggeln> ohh
[12:05:21] <fraggeln> Chipdancer: they are not, they are the backupsystem.
[12:05:40] <Chipdancer> fraggeln: it's on zpool though, right?
[12:06:05] <fraggeln> what is?
[12:06:07] <Chipdancer> obivously... so how are you making up that zpool...
[12:06:22] <fraggeln> striping :)
[12:06:26] <Chipdancer> fraggeln: 'zpool status dbu' ;)
[12:07:27] <fraggeln> see msg
[12:07:36] <Chipdancer> cool
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[12:07:54] <trochej> Coffee
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[12:13:04] <CosmicDJ> trygvis: well, try HUP'ing syslogd manually
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[12:29:16] <codestr0m> I'm restoring the boot-archive from the livecd and getting krtld can't resolve symbols for.. etc anyone know specifically where/what symbols it's looking for.. -v isn't being so helpful
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[12:35:33] <seanmcg> codestr0m, not mixing different kernel versions, one from the livecd and the other on disk ?
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[12:37:31] <codestr0m> seanmcg: that may be it, but I cheated and originally did cp -rf /boot/ /zfsroot/ ;  bootadm update-archive -R /zfsroot ; /zfsroot/boot/solaris/bin/update_grub -R /zfsroot
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[13:10:47] <wereHamster> does anyone else have problems downloading 2008.11 b2 through bittorrent? There seem to be no seeders
[13:10:56] <codestr0m> and the answer.. because I'm on amd64.. didn't update the grub menu and copies only the livecd (32bit) kernel.. there is no amd64 kernel.. then 2nd issue.. 32bit kernel zips by the screen so fast I can't even see the error.. :P
[13:11:31] <codestr0m> wereHamster: the http from genunix too slow?
[13:12:07] <wereHamster> codestr0m: I wouldn't say slow, but it doesn't max out my connection :)
[13:12:26] <codestr0m> well. 1kb > 0kb torrent :P
[13:13:19] <codestr0m> I'm sure in general people seed things they find others to be valuable
[13:13:42] <codestr0m> *seed things which they think would probably be valuable to others*
[13:14:10] <evocallaghan> xRaich[o]2x:Great job on the SATA bug report. I am still amazed no one is looking at it consider the ample amount of info we have both provided !
[13:14:32] <codestr0m> evocallaghan: by /we/ you mean xRaich[o]2x ?
[13:14:41] <xRaich[o]2x> my head hurts now...
[13:14:42] <CosmicDJ> someone here said it's thanksgiving time in the US
[13:14:53] <codestr0m> 4th thursday + the weekend
[13:15:06] <CosmicDJ> and no one at sun is working this week ,)
[13:15:21] <codestr0m> yeah, but that bug report has been up for a while
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[13:16:03] <xRaich[o]2x> consider that no one knew where shit hit the fan
[13:16:39] <evocallaghan> codestr0m:We  is the first-person,pluralpersonal pronoun (subject case) in Modern English.
[13:16:52] <seanmcg> CosmicDJ, there are some sun folks outside the US :)
[13:17:14] <codestr0m> evocallaghan: I was pointing out that the plural form was being incorrectly used..
[13:17:35] <codestr0m> </pedent>
[13:17:46] <evocallaghan> codestr0m:How?
[13:17:47] <Gekz> evocallaghan: I need dedicated hosting
[13:17:51] <Gekz> and you're australian
[13:17:54] <CosmicDJ> seanmcg: the i18n folks?
[13:17:57] <Gekz> thus I come to the conclusion that you know things
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[13:18:01] <codestr0m> lol!
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[13:18:10] <evocallaghan> lol, !
[13:18:12] * codestr0m really laughing
[13:18:18] <seanmcg> CosmicDJ, developers are all over the place...
[13:18:27] <evocallaghan> I'm *not* Australian. N.B.
[13:18:44] <Gekz> orly
[13:19:03] <smtms> he's a fake
[13:19:07] <codestr0m> *mauri*
[13:19:11] <Gekz> I dont care
[13:19:16] <Gekz> if he resides in Australia then I'm fine
[13:19:19] <evocallaghan> Yes, I'm not a real criminal :(
[13:19:31] <CosmicDJ> hehe
[13:19:32] <xRaich[o]2x> if any ahci insiders are here, please have a look at http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=3690 the last comments are the most relevant
[13:19:39] <Gekz> whatever
[13:19:40] <evocallaghan> Gekz:Why, what, where?
[13:19:41] <Gekz> you're connected
[13:19:43] <Gekz> I need hosting
[13:19:57] <evocallaghan> For ?
[13:20:05] <Gekz> reasons
[13:20:28] <evocallaghan> Better talk to your ISP :p
[13:20:36] <evocallaghan> I'm just traveling ..
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[13:21:09] <evocallaghan> I use Dennis for my hosting need for our distro, AuroraUX :)
[13:21:41] <evocallaghan> codestr0m:You are yet to tell me how my useage of we was incorrect ?
[13:22:01] <codestr0m> evocallaghan: can you point to any useful information someone other than xRaich[o]2x has provided?
[13:23:01] <evocallaghan> codestr0m:Yep, there are too bug reports both very similar and prob the same problem when we find out what the problem is .. So shut up ;)
[13:23:13] <evocallaghan> s/too/two/
[13:23:34] <xRaich[o]2x> evocallaghan: sorry i don't think those 2 bugs are related
[13:24:27] <xRaich[o]2x> the symptoms are not even alike
[13:24:27] <evocallaghan> xRaich[o]2x:I am yet to run your DTrace script on my box, I am pritty sure they are. My box hangs too :'(
[13:24:48] <xRaich[o]2x> i thought it was just slow
[13:24:52] <evocallaghan> xRaich[o]2x:They are, except I wait for mine to come back to life :/
[13:25:01] <evocallaghan> xRaich[o]2x:No, it will hang !
[13:26:16] <evocallaghan> Sometimes takes 5min to switch between windows as well .. !
[13:27:38] <xRaich[o]2x> evocallaghan: try to run the tests from a livecd. i documented everything in the bugreport
[13:28:17] <evocallaghan> I know, I will some time once I get a chance..
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[13:41:52] <codestr0m> trying to debug a kernel panic from a working snv_96 kernel/box over to a test box.. the libc is from around onnv snv_102ish and not sure if that would be the reason for http://rafb.net/p/Mqb02n96.html
[13:43:12] <codestr0m> WARNING: Cannot mount /proc
[13:43:14] <codestr0m> hmm.
[13:43:54] <codestr0m> is it possible to set ttya as the dump device?
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[14:03:55] <seanmcg> codestr0m, you want the crash dump to be dumped to a remote machine over ttya ?
[14:04:17] <codestr0m> seanmcg: yeah
[14:04:41] <codestr0m> I know I'll lose my console by doing  that, but for 1x.. it would allow me to get the dump
[14:05:02] <codestr0m> seanmcg: if you have a sec. do the warnings in the pastie look familiar to any noobie issue
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[14:05:09] <seanmcg> codestr0m, though if the panic happens earlier that when dumpadm runs...
[14:05:19] <wereHamster> wtf? I get 'Error: Torrent unauthorised' from the sun torrent server
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[14:06:55] <CosmicDJ> mixing b96 kernel and 102 libc sounds like it'll call for trouble..
[14:08:04] <codestr0m> CosmicDJ: yeah. I'll confirm that in a sec.. I know at the very least it had some new symbols
[14:08:10] <seanmcg> codestr0m, I'd be more interested in why you can't mount any of those pseudo fs's..
[14:08:32] <codestr0m> seanmcg: sorry. I'm clueless, but I'll read any doc to help figure this out
[14:09:00] <codestr0m> I've got console access so can easily paste any output/commands
[14:09:57] <wereHamster> who maintains the sun bittorrent tracker?
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[14:11:42] <seanmcg> codestr0m, what CosmicDJ said..
[14:13:56] <codestr0m> seanmcg: yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if this libc doesn't build
[14:14:02] <codestr0m> boot*
[14:15:47] <seanmcg> once you start mixing old (snv_96 is about 14 weeks old now) and new you tend to be on your own ;)
[14:16:38] <codestr0m> yeah.. I just need to become more familiar with building kernels
[14:16:54] <Gekz> fight the kernel
[14:17:19] <codestr0m> I'm just used to glibc + any relatively new 2.6 kernel working together
[14:18:09] <codestr0m> *win some.. lose some* (shrugs)
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[14:36:04] <codestr0m> CosmicDJ / seanmcg : I think I can rule out the libc issue.. I copied the libc from the same system which I pulled the kernel and same thing
[14:36:42] <codestr0m> maybe my partition table isn't correct..
[14:37:03] <CosmicDJ> procfs is a virtual fs
[14:38:17] <CosmicDJ> let me rephrase my statement: "using a non-matching userland and kernel calls for trouble"
[14:38:36] <codestr0m> CosmicDJ: yeah, but same error. so libc is ruled out at least
[14:38:56] <codestr0m> I'd like to know which part of the userland is causing trouble
[14:40:06] <codestr0m> I did add /reconfigure
[14:40:12] <codestr0m> maybe I should try removing that
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[14:40:41] <dzen> hi there
[14:40:50] <codestr0m> dzen: hi
[14:41:05] <codestr0m> CosmicDJ: for what it's worth. the userland works in a custom zone..
[14:41:13] <dzen> I'm looking for some docs about how some paravirt xen( xvm ) features are implemented
[14:41:35] <CosmicDJ> codestr0m: so the kernel panics at boot but you got a working zone?
[14:43:10] <codestr0m> CosmicDJ: I moved the zone userland to metal + the kernel/libc from the same box the zone was on and the kernel panics yes..
[14:43:48] <codestr0m> when I was doing the install was I following the http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/boot/zfsboot-manual/
[14:44:08] <codestr0m> s/was I/I was/
[14:45:28] <CosmicDJ> this guide is for "Builds 62 to 87"
[14:45:53] <codestr0m> yes. I did adjust a few things as needed
[14:46:01] <codestr0m> I have it all documented what I changed
[14:46:57] <codestr0m> I did hit this bug on install http://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do;jsessionid=6235bc9da128ed3d3830499c530?bug_id=6667522
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[14:53:26] <YazzY> hi guys
[14:53:56] <YazzY> i am trying to mount an image file with logiadm but there is no /dev/lofi/* on my system
[14:54:01] <dzen> is it possible to attache more than one disk to an opensolaris paravirt os ?
[14:54:02] <YazzY> any ideas why it's not present?
[14:54:10] <YazzY> this is on Solaris 10
[14:54:15] <codestr0m> unassigned    wm       1 - 19192      147.02GB    (19192/0/0) 308319480
[14:54:20] <codestr0m> looks like it's missing the root tag now
[14:54:37] <YazzY> SunOS xxyyzz 5.10 Generic_137138-09 i86pc i386 i86pc
[14:55:37] <CosmicDJ> YazzY: show us your exact lofiadm command
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[14:59:05] <YazzY> CosmicDJ: the docs say to use lofiadm -a `pwd`/myfile /dev/logi/1
[14:59:47] <YazzY> and there is nothing in /devices/pseudo/lofi\@0/ either
[15:01:13] <CosmicDJ> what docs? there's no /dev/lofi/.. in the examples section of lofiadm(1M)
[15:08:21] <YazzY> CosmicDJ: from wikis.sun.com : http://www.sun.com/blueprints/0806/819-7546.pdf
[15:08:39] <YazzY> "GRUB and the Solaris Operating System on x86 Platforms - A Guide to Creating a Customized Boot DVD"
[15:08:58] <quasi> a bit old
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[15:09:14] <dominic1> hello guys
[15:09:23] <dominic1> I am new with opensolaris
[15:09:33] <YazzY> quasi: yah, it is possible
[15:10:12] <CosmicDJ> YazzY: seems like you mis-read that command
[15:10:17] <dominic1> I want to use opensolaris as storage system. Is there already any solution for that?
[15:10:23] <quasi> lofiadm -a `pwd`/myfile
[15:10:31] <quasi> is the right ting to do
[15:10:47] <quasi> then it returns something like /dev/lofi/1
[15:10:48] <holcomb> they fixed that recently
[15:11:10] <quasi> which can be mounted with mount -Fhsfs /dev/lofi/1 /mnt
[15:11:15] <CosmicDJ> YazzY: # lofiadm -a `pwd`/sol-10-u1-ga-x86-dvd.iso w/o "/dev/lofi/1", thats the output from lofiadm
[15:11:48] <YazzY> ah, thanks
[15:13:13] <CosmicDJ> dominic1: like zfs? MPxIO? fault management?
[15:14:05] <dominic1> I wanted to use zfs, iscsi and samba.
[15:14:09] <CosmicDJ> nfs/cifs support, iSCSI
[15:15:50] <dominic1> is it correct, that I can adjust iscsi directly in zfs?
[15:16:33] <dominic1> is there any tutorial how to start building a storage system with zfs and iscsi?
[15:17:17] <dominic1> Is there any possibility to install opensolaris without gui?
[15:17:35] <xRaich[o]2x> dominic1: afaik you just need to create a zvol and zfs set shareisci
[15:17:39] <xRaich[o]2x> but never did that
[15:17:49] <Okona> xRaich[o]2x: did that, works out of the box
[15:17:54] <dominic1> I am impressed....
[15:17:57] <xRaich[o]2x> nice
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[15:18:32] <Okona> dominic1: try solaris10 if you don't need a gui, it is more stable anyway
[15:18:34] <Okona> (-:
[15:18:36] <dzen> does any one use xm block-attach ?
[15:19:06] <dominic1> what about the costs of solaris 10?
[15:19:10] <xRaich[o]2x> 0
[15:19:12] <xRaich[o]2x> none
[15:19:14] <xRaich[o]2x> nada
[15:19:25] <dzen> :)
[15:19:35] <dominic1> really?
[15:19:45] <xRaich[o]2x> yes
[15:19:46] <xRaich[o]2x> ja
[15:19:46] <Okona> dominic1: of course you can buy support, but the software itself is free
[15:19:47] <xRaich[o]2x> da
[15:19:52] <Okona> si
[15:19:53] <Okona> hai
[15:20:06] <Okona> oui
[15:20:08] <xRaich[o]2x> :P
[15:20:12] <dominic1> okay, now I am really impressed :-)
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[15:20:43] <Okona> well, sun is a hardware company...
[15:22:11] <smtms> its CPU's are open-source
[15:22:18] <smtms> you don't buy them, you manufacture them! :-)
[15:22:34] <trochej>  smtms I do about three every weekend in my basement. :)
[15:22:54] <dominic1> :-)
[15:28:24] <dominic1> I wanted to buy a icp controller, but saw it's not supported by solaris 10. What can you tell me about using zfs as a storage system on x86 hardware? Should I buy a SAS controller? I always used icp. Should I build hadrware raid or software raid?
[15:29:51] <Okona> software raid using zfs
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[15:35:55] <dominic1> Are you using SAS Harddisk or SATA? What do you think about this configuration: 1xXeon 2.66 4GB RAM, 8xSamsung SATA? I want to use it as storage for vmware machines....
[15:37:02] <codestr0m> I have a zpool which is  state: UNAVAIL that I can't import even with -f to destroy.. bug or is there another way?
[15:37:16] <codestr0m> cannot import 'rpool': invalid vdev configuration
[15:38:14] <Okona> dominic1: http://www.solarisinternals.com/wiki/index.php/ZFS_Best_Practices_Guide
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[15:43:51] <codestr0m> ** FATAL **: Unable to mount Live image!
[15:47:21] <Okona> dominic1: i'm also using sata drives with this controller http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AoC-SAT2-MV8.cfm
[15:47:38] <Okona> dominic1: that is supported out of the box
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[15:56:54] <dominic1> I want to use it with this mainboard and the onboardcontroller http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon1333/5400/X7DWE.cfm
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[16:00:45] <Okona> dominic1: -> http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl/
[16:01:29] <trochej> Is it me, or does zfs list not print snapshots anymoe?
[16:01:49] <xRaich[o]2x> trochej: zfs list -t snapshot
[16:02:02] <timsf> It's not you, it's PSARC 2008/469
[16:02:37] <plavcik> I like to migrate guickly my moinmoin wiki from linux box to OpenSolaris (upgrade to native latest moinmoin version will come later), which available virtualisation on SXCE b101 I shal choose?
[16:02:46] <trochej> ah yes
[16:02:49] <trochej> I see it in help
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[16:03:50] <wereHamster> what's PSARC?
[16:05:54] <dominic1> omg the supported supermicro systems are very old....
[16:06:04] <trochej> timsf: Yes, seems I have overseen it somehow
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[16:08:24] <yksinaisyyteni> wereHamster: PSARC is the ARC (Architecture Review Committee) that covers the OS itself
[16:08:35] <yksinaisyyteni> wereHamster: ARCs are responsible to reviewing new features/APIs/etc
[16:08:54] <yksinaisyyteni> a new feature gets an ARC case with a name like PSARC 2008/469
[16:09:01] <yksinaisyyteni> you can look up the case on opensolaris.org
[16:09:22] <wereHamster> ah thanks
[16:09:29] <yksinaisyyteni> (unless it's an old one that isn't open yet, but most 2007-2008 at least should be open)
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[16:09:52] <yksinaisyyteni> i guess PSARC 2008/469 is the feature where 'zfs list' doesn't list snapshot by default
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[16:10:17] <yksinaisyyteni> (which is very nice on systems with a lot of snapshots)
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[16:13:52] <rewolf-> hey, is there a procedure to roll the .usb image onto a usb stick without a solaris installation ? (eg. linux or windows)
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[16:19:31] <codestr0m> rewolf-: by roll you mean copy?
[16:19:53] <codestr0m> or is .usb some image thing I'm not aware of and you want to unpack it?
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[16:22:16] <evocallaghan> rewolf-:Yes, you can do this off the LiveCD.
[16:24:42] <rewolf-> codestr0m: its the .usb file available from genunix: http://www.genunix2.org/distributions/indiana/osol-0811-rc2.usb
[16:25:26] <rewolf-> evocallaghan: heh ok. if I download and burn the liveCD, then there is no need for the .usb image ;)
[16:26:34] <evocallaghan> rewolf-:Oh, that image.. I think you can maybe dd that accross .. Try it :)
[16:27:18] <rewolf-> oke, i'll give it a try.
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[16:29:38] <rewolf-> genunix.org should get some mirroring capacity :/
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[16:34:39] <Asako> I could probably run one
[16:34:59] <Asako> does anybody know how to get virsh to work with xen domains that don't use pygrub?
[16:35:17] <Asako> I've also had some issues with domU file systems getting errors
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[16:37:22] <Roberth> hello
[16:37:24] <Asako> hi
[16:37:44] <Roberth> ive been thinking about trying opensolaris, what sound system does it use?
[16:38:06] <Asako> sun audio and oss
[16:38:38] <Roberth> what mean with "and"?
[16:39:00] <Asako> are you Bill Clinton?
[16:39:10] <rewolf-> logical conjunction? :/
[16:39:13] <yksinaisyyteni> natively it uses sun audio
[16:39:13] <Roberth> no im barrack obama
[16:39:18] <yksinaisyyteni> which is why it's called "sun audio", because sun uses it
[16:39:27] <Roberth> okay
[16:39:27] <yksinaisyyteni> 4Front also produce a version of OSS for solaris
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[16:39:39] <Roberth> are we talking about opensounds oss?
[16:39:41] <yksinaisyyteni> (if you're coming from linux, 4front oss is nothing like the crappy OSS/Free that comes with linux)
[16:39:45] <yksinaisyyteni> yes, 4front = opensound
[16:39:47] <Asako> I haven't worried about it, audio "just works"
[16:40:22] <Roberth> so my cmi8788 audio chipset will work out of box?
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[16:40:45] <Asako> does solaris have a xendomains service?
[16:41:08] <Asako> I can script it, but then it bitches that the domain already exists
[16:41:20] <Asako> Roberth, just boot the cd and check
[16:41:30] <Asako> there's a driver utility
[16:41:30] <xRaich[o]2x> Roberth: if it doesn't try oss.
[16:41:56] <yksinaisyyteni> Roberth: try it.  if it doesn't, use OSS
[16:42:00] <yksinaisyyteni> oss supports basically everything
[16:42:08] <Roberth> Asako: let me rephraise the quest
[16:42:29] <Roberth> does solaris' oss have all the drivers that oss from 4front has?
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[16:43:02] <Asako> I don't think oss is installed by default
[16:43:25] <yksinaisyyteni> right
[16:43:31] <rewolf-> oss for solaris = 4front oss
[16:43:31] <yksinaisyyteni> "solaris oss" and "oss from 4front" are the same thing
[16:43:36] <rewolf-> (to my understanding)
[16:43:46] <yksinaisyyteni> the audio system included in solaris is not OSS, it's just solaris/sun audio
[16:44:16] <Roberth> okay....
[16:44:17] <Asako> [root at mistakes dot liquidweb.com] ~ >> mixerctl
[16:44:18] <Asako> Device /dev/audioctl:
[16:44:18] <Asako>   Name    = SUNW,audio810
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[16:44:39] <Roberth> what cards does solaris' soundsystem support?
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[16:45:03] <Asako> I'm sure there's a hardware list
[16:45:16] <xRaich[o]2x> Roberth: http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl
[16:46:14] <xRaich[o]2x> Roberth: just boot the live cd. see if it works. done. it's that simple
[16:46:15] <evocallaghan> Am I missing something or is this correct ? http://rafb.net/p/5NwdJM93.html
[16:48:41] <xRaich[o]2x> Roberth: if it's doesn't download the oss package and documentation. issue the single command mentioned in the doc and be happy. http://www.4front-tech.com/download.cgi
[16:50:43] <Roberth> looks like opensolaris' soundsystem doesn't support my card....
[16:51:00] <rewolf-> http://manuals.opensound.com/devlists/Solaris-i386.html <- but, oss does.
[16:51:52] <Roberth> why do you guys really use solaris by the way?
[16:52:13] <Asako> stability, consistency, performance
[16:52:21] <Asako> zfs, dtrace, zones, xvm, etc.
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[16:52:47] <yksinaisyyteni> Roberth: stability.  both of the OS not crashing, and that Sun doesn't change everything with each release
[16:53:04] <Roberth> then why not use freebsd?
[16:53:18] <Asako> no support
[16:53:18] <yksinaisyyteni> do you go around asking freebsd users "why not use solaris?"?
[16:53:44] <Roberth> Asako: as in?
[16:53:55] <Asako> I'm also more likely to get a job as a solaris admin
[16:54:04] <Asako> as in Oracle runs on it, etc.
[16:54:05] <yksinaisyyteni> freebsd doesn't have zfs (in a stable form), or dtrace (except for kernel in their development version), it has no commercial support, until very recently it completely sucked at SMP (especially for MySQL, which we use)
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[16:54:19] <yksinaisyyteni> and of course, it has no commercial vendor support
[16:54:22] <Asako> my servers aren't toys
[16:55:11] <Roberth> ah u or profesional admins...
[16:55:18] <Roberth> *you are
[16:55:20] <Roberth> sorry:P
[16:55:20] <yksinaisyyteni> i'm not
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[16:55:26] * Asako is
[16:55:31] <yksinaisyyteni> i run solaris systems as a volunteer for a non-profit
[16:55:36] <Asako> all our stuff is CentOS though
[16:55:37] * rewolf- is not
[16:55:39] <yksinaisyyteni> but i still want to do it properly, and that means vendor support
[16:55:40] <Roberth> whats the thing about zfs?
[16:55:43] <pjd> yksinaisyyteni: ixsystems.com
[16:55:45] <Asako> but Solaris is my personal preference
[16:55:55] <yksinaisyyteni> pjd: i said "vendor support"
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[16:56:07] <yksinaisyyteni> pjd: anyway, even if it existed for freebsd, i wouldn't use it
[16:56:24] <yksinaisyyteni> actually, even if everything i just mentioned existed for freebsd, i wouldn't use it
[16:56:30] <pjd> yksinaisyyteni: Same as Linux, I don't think Linus offers commercial support to anyone.
[16:56:32] <yksinaisyyteni> because a) we already use solaris, why change?  and b) i know solaris, i don't know freebsd
[16:56:53] <yksinaisyyteni> pjd: no, but most serious linux vendors provide their own distribution where they can easily integrate source fixes
[16:56:55] <pjd> yksinaisyyteni: I'm just saying that there is commercial support for FreeBSD, that's all.
[16:56:58] <Asako> system recovery is my job, I'm getting tired of linux stupidity
[16:57:00] <yksinaisyyteni> pjd: e.g. canonical, redhat, ....
[16:57:06] <Asako> ext3 likes to crap itself
[16:57:19] <Asako> kernel panics, lockups, etc.
[16:57:21] <pjd> yksinaisyyteni: ixsystems can do more or less the same as redhat, etc.
[16:57:37] <Fullmoon> Whaths the matter with SXCE-102? Can't find any news on the reasons why it was yanked
[16:57:54] <pjd> yksinaisyyteni: And also, mysql performance on FreeBSD is probably the best on the market currently.
[16:57:56] <yksinaisyyteni> Fullmoon: it has a ZFS bug that can cause root pool corruption
[16:58:09] <yksinaisyyteni> pjd: "currently", perhaps.  3 years ago, it wasn't
[16:58:10] <Fullmoon> yksinaisyyteni: Ouch. Heard enough :)
[16:58:42] <CIA-34> Zach Kissel <Zachary.Kissel at Sun dot COM>: 6566262 mutex_enter: bad mutex, lp=600109b1540 owner=2a1003b7cc0
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[17:01:29] <rewolf-> sensitive subject ;)
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[17:09:57] <Asako> anybody running xVM?
[17:10:42] <trochej> Asako: Few persons.
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[17:13:47] <Asako> can I use virsh without a boot loader?
[17:15:17] <Asako> should I disable libvirt?
[17:15:52] <trochej> KHm
[17:15:56] <trochej> That I don't know
[17:16:02] <trochej> try estibi if he's around
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[17:16:19] <Asako> shoot, no gcc in SXCE
[17:16:25] <yksinaisyyteni> Asako: /usr/sfw/bin/gcc
[17:16:45] <Asako> thanks
[17:17:06] <Asako> trying to build e2fsprogs
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[17:17:59] <Asako> and it doesn't compile, figures
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[17:18:14] <Asako> gmake[1]: *** No rule to make target `asm_types.h', needed by `lib/uuid/uuid_types.h'.  Stop.
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[17:20:36] <Asako> looks like turning virtd off might work
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[17:22:41] <mattdz> hey guys.  We've recently installed OpenSolaris 11.08 with some SSDs for database work and are looking to benchmark them.  Anyone have any hints for getting started?
[17:23:01] <Asako> or not
[17:23:06] <Asako> xm uptime breaks
[17:23:10] <mattdz> we ran Bonnie on both the main drive (not SSD) and the SSDs (raided in ZFS) and we're not seeing the performance we'd expect
[17:23:25] <asyd> how many ram? ;p
[17:23:59] <quasi> one, two, three little ram
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[17:26:30] <Okona> mattdz: also tried with separate zil and cache devices?
[17:26:31] <holcomb> don't use the ssds for write logs
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[17:27:32] <mattdz> holcomb: definitely not.  Those are going to the primary drive
[17:27:43] <mattdz> Okona: no, I haven't done that yet
[17:28:24] <mattdz> Interestingly enough, the SSDs and the normal drive gave about the same performance and chewed up much more CPU when running Bonnie than I would have thought
[17:31:42] <yksinaisyyteni> mattdz: use filebench
[17:31:49] <yksinaisyyteni> an extremely flexible and configurable disk benchmark suite
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[17:42:34] <mattdz> yksinaisyyteni: thanks!  We'll check that out
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[17:42:58] <yksinaisyyteni> remember it's still a benchmark, the only real test is running your actual workload..
[17:43:05] <mattdz> of course :)
[17:43:33] <yksinaisyyteni> but i like filebench, you can configure exactly does it does using a simple description language
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[17:43:48] <Asako> I'm starting to think that ext3 on a zvol isn't stable
[17:44:02] <yksinaisyyteni> Asako: using iscsi or what?
[17:44:09] <yksinaisyyteni> ext3 should work as well as any other filesystem
[17:44:10] <Asako> I used iscsi to format it
[17:44:19] <Asako> but when my domain boots it says the file system has errors
[17:44:35] <yksinaisyyteni> i'd suspect iscsi target or initiator before zfs
[17:44:42] * yksinaisyyteni hates iscsi with a passion
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[17:44:50] <Asako> /dev/sda1 contains a file system with errors, check forced.
[17:44:50] <Asako> /dev/sda1: Extended attribute block 694171 has reference count 477, should be 472.
[17:45:00] <yksinaisyyteni> (but that might be because i have to work with this ridiculously broken iscsi array... it crashes if the host reboots)
[17:45:01] <Asako> fsck says it's clean
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[17:48:09] <tavis> I have an older intel E7501 server running solaris 10 u6.  It hangs and becomes unresponsive after a couple hours.  After a reboot it is fine. It has and onboard e1000 nic, quad port e1000, qlogic fc hba and supermicro sata conroller. I have updated bios/firmware etc.  Still behaves the same.  Am i missing a patch for solaris?  Any ideas?
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[17:56:20] <tsoome1> do smpatch analyze or pca
[17:58:01] <yksinaisyyteni> there aren't many patches for U6 though.. i'd be surprised if one fixed it
[17:58:02] <Asako> why would the same file system say it's clean on one server and show errors on another?
[17:58:04] <Asako> it makes no sense
[17:58:07] <yksinaisyyteni> (but keeping up to date with patches is always a good idea)
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[17:58:34] <CIA-34> Priya Krishnan <Priya.Krishnan at Sun dot COM>: 6748913 iscsit should support immediate data, 6737154 itadm should enhance output to clarify whether "auth" parameter is from defaults or target-specific, 6751238 itadm should display TPGT tag values along with the TPG names in list-target output
[17:58:35] <CIA-34> Ali Bahrami <Ali.Bahrami at Sun dot COM>: 6772661 ldd/lddstub/ld.so.1 dump core in current nightly while processing libsoftcrypto_hwcap.so.1
[17:58:35] <CIA-34> Jonathan Cowper-Andrewes <Jonathan.Ca at Sun dot COM>: 6699689 lpadmin: adding description (-D) corrupts /etc/printers.conf and leads lpstat to core dump
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[18:05:18] <Asako> I think the e2fsck package is messed up
[18:05:25] <Asako> ld.so.1: e2fsck: fatal: libintl.so.3: open failed: No such file or directory
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[18:10:19] <mattdz> does 'top' on solaris not report IOWait?
[18:10:55] <seanmcg> IOWait == 0 since s10
[18:11:03] <seanmcg> its a 'useless' metric
[18:11:32] <mattdz> any reason why its "useless" ?
[18:11:47] <seanmcg> it doesn't really have any value.
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[18:12:12] <seanmcg> theres a doc possibly on blogs.sun.com which describes it in more detail.
[18:12:26] <FrostCS> about why top is useless? ;-)
[18:12:46] <seanmcg> mattdz, use prstat instead of top
[18:12:55] <timsf> top: "*I'm* the performance problem, stop running me!"
[18:13:34] <seanmcg> s/top/gnome-performance-monitor/ too
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[18:25:51] <_setuid_H> Evening all
[18:26:44] <codestr0m> evening
[18:27:26] <codestr0m> seanmcg: I need to clean up a lot of errors.. add missing things, but it boots!
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[18:35:02] <Asako> do zvols do write checking like a file system?
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[18:36:24] <Asako> I'm way behind on my migration because of stupid linux errors
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[18:42:09] <Asako> what is refreservation?
[18:42:38] <yksinaisyyteni> reservation without snapshots, or something
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[18:47:34] <timsf> space guaranteed to be available to a dataset.
[18:47:58] <Asako> isn't that what a reservation is?
[18:48:20] <timsf> [ the man page for zfs has this and more - http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/819-2240/zfs-1m ]
[18:48:27] <Asako> yeah, got it
[18:48:28] <timsf> Oh refreservation, I misread.
[18:48:48] <timsf> reservation without counting it's descendants.
[18:49:02] <Asako> cool
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[19:00:32] <hrist_> Hi, I have /dev/zvol/dsk/rpool/xen-domains/xen-windows and /dev/zvol/dsk/rpool/xen-domains/xen-solaris BUT I deleted the corresponding zfs filesystems, how can I get rid of them?
[19:04:10] <sickness> can I put an hex wep key in the "Add Wireless Network" dialog of 2008.11rc1 ?
[19:04:48] <sickness> nevermind, it works :)
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[19:08:39] <evocallaghan> This was very interesting.. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=os_threeway_2008&num=1
[19:09:33] <evocallaghan> Clearly some work needs to be done with AMD/OpenSolaris kernel. Although, its more likely due to a old GCC being used maybe ?
[19:10:38] <evocallaghan> I wonder want happens if you run the test again with SXCE with some services turned off down to the OpenSolaris distro level. As SXCE is built with Studio, I would like to see the results, ay lads ?
[19:10:55] <yksinaisyyteni> built with studio as opposed to what?
[19:11:03] <evocallaghan> GCC
[19:11:16] <evocallaghan> The OpenSolaris distro is built with GCC no ?
[19:12:15] <comay> nope, it's built with studio as well
[19:12:26] <comay> almost all of the binary bits are identical
[19:13:02] <evocallaghan> Oh really.
[19:13:22] <evocallaghan> I thought it was self hosting and it was bulit with GCC. There you go..
[19:13:23] <evocallaghan> :p
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[19:14:15] <evocallaghan> comay:Clearly some twaks need to come in for OpenSolaris on AMD so that its on level with Ubuntu. This is a bug :) hehe
[19:14:25] <yksinaisyyteni> what a bizarre and useless test suite
[19:14:55] <evocallaghan> I don't now, I believe some things are vaild there..
[19:15:07] <yksinaisyyteni> also, what makes you think the problem is specific to 'opensolaris on AMD'?
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[19:15:31] <evocallaghan> yksinaisyyteni:That was the ref board.
[19:15:43] <yksinaisyyteni> but what makes you think the problem wouldn't appear on Intel?
[19:15:45] <evocallaghan> Although your right, it could just be a problem to all..
[19:16:19] <evocallaghan> yksinaisyyteni:Hmm, becuase Intel is useless and it would be worse lol. Atleast my Intel box is useless :(
[19:16:50] <yksinaisyyteni> what would be worse?  you think ubuntu or freebsd would be faster on intel than solaris?
[19:17:32] <evocallaghan> If you can make anything run fast on a Intel, I'll eat my hat..
[19:17:38] <comay> evocallaghan, i suspect the issues are generic but obviously, one won't know for sure until the benchmarks results are analyzed and root caused
[19:17:42] <yksinaisyyteni> i don't really follow your point
[19:18:08] <evocallaghan> yksinaisyyteni:Your dragging out my joke :p
[19:18:16] <Auralis_> opensolaris flies on my intel cpu here
[19:18:20] <evocallaghan> comay:Yea, sounds far.
[19:18:46] <yksinaisyyteni> as far as the test suite goes, it seems to be mostly pointless cpu-bound operations (who spends all day running 7zip?) and disk-bound tests that are comparing zfs vs ufs more than the OS
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[19:19:34] <evocallaghan> yksinaisyyteni:I believe 7z is quite a vaild test as its threaded well.
[19:19:47] <yksinaisyyteni> test of what?  again, no one spends all day running 7zip
[19:20:48] <evocallaghan> yksinaisyyteni:Its early in the morning. Do I really have to explain. I only throw the URL in here for you fish to nibble on..
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[19:28:09] <YazzY> codestr0m: too much hassle on #belenix? :)
[19:28:35] <YazzY> s/on/in
[19:28:39] <victori> does xen/xvm work with zfs's zvols?
[19:28:42] <codestr0m> YazzY: I'm just not there so often. was going to ping moinak and say hi, but I know he's busy
[19:29:03] <seanmcg> victori, yes
[19:29:03] <YazzY> he just left
[19:29:22] <YazzY> codestr0m: but he helped me a lot today
[19:30:22] <codestr0m> YazzY: yeah. he's really helpful
[19:30:59] <YazzY> codestr0m: yes, he's a very nice guy
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[19:34:47] <YazzY> codestr0m: any idea how to create a new empty file for miniroot? Seems like the one i am editing has no more space left on it and when I boot the CD it yells about / being full
[19:36:04] <codestr0m> YazzY: maybe you could ask your company to share the work?
[19:36:13] <codestr0m> then I could possibly help
[19:36:16] <YazzY> heh
[19:36:29] <YazzY> codestr0m: what work? I am only editing one shell script
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[19:42:55] <Asako> wouldn't you just use dd?
[19:43:44] <YazzY> Asako: yah, i suppose and then create file system on it
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[19:45:18] <Asako> or create a zvol
[19:45:35] <sickness> is somewhere an easy howto to use blastwave with ips on 2008.11rc1 ?
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[19:46:08] <YazzY> Asako: i am not that familiar with solaris, is that some kind of ZSF tool?
[19:46:13] <YazzY> zfs
[19:46:25] <Asako> yeah
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[19:47:11] <YazzY> see, that's one of the things i dont know, if this can then be used by grub as a module and loded into memory and mounted as a memory file system
[19:47:20] <codestr0m> sickness: just add the bw authority.. I assume http://blastwave.network.com:10000/
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[19:48:56] <Asako> the site also tells you
[19:49:50] <sickness> heh, anyway, only place where I found an easy and up to date howto seems to be: http://blogs.sun.com/observatory/entry/blastwave
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[19:51:17] <Asako> yeah, that's a good blog
[19:51:27] <codestr0m> sickness: it's one line pfexec pkg set-authority -O http://blastwave.network.com:10000 blastwave.org
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[19:51:55] <sickness> codestr0m: yeah, but it's NOT advertised on opensolaris.org nor on opensolaris.com nor on blastwave.org :/
[19:51:59] <codestr0m> and on their site they should publish the authority information, but I know it's not exactly intuitive in some ways
[19:52:47] <sickness> yeah, I know users should do their homework... but I think lots of people will just run away scared and put a linux distro dvd in the drive...
[19:53:13] <codestr0m> sickness: well. whatever their motivation for not making it easier. I have no idea. it used to be on there
[19:53:25] <codestr0m> I could take a guess why, but that's not my place
[19:53:57] <sickness> :/
[19:54:13] <codestr0m> sickness: what are you specifically looking for? multimedia stuff or?
[19:54:24] <Asako> lifewithsolaris also has some packages
[19:54:51] <Asako> http://lifewithsolaris.jp/
[19:55:00] <sickness> codestr0m: install openvpn from the blastwave repository, seems to work now that I've found how :)
[19:55:10] <Asako> and mp3 should work without the stupid fluendo codec, damn it
[19:55:16] <wesw> ditto, lifewithsolaris has some great multimedia stuff
[19:55:19] <Asako> it's free, just include it
[19:55:35] <wesw> VLC from lifewithsolaris, no other MP3 codec needed
[19:55:38] <sickness> Asako: yeah, and they also put a kind example before them, it's a breeze to install from lifewithsolaris.jp, that site should be adviced on opensolaris.org/.com
[19:55:50] <Asako> yeah
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[19:57:52] <e^ipi> os.o/c have never advised users to use third-party packages. blastwave & sunfreeware have never been on the sites
[19:58:25] <e^ipi> so really, nothing's changed
[19:58:35] <CIA-34> Siddheshwar Mahesh <Siddheshwar.Mahesh at Sun dot COM>: 6762222 lockd burns cpu cycles, nfs pathologically slow
[19:59:08] <sickness> dinner time
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[20:01:59] <plavcik> hi, I have SXCE snv_99, I do not have pkg in path for root, is this the correct package manager? (I selected all during installation)
[20:02:44] <Auralis_> no, pkg is for opensolaris, not SXCE, SXCe does not has a online pkg manager at all
[20:03:05] <e^ipi> no, it's package manager is pkgadd
[20:03:17] <e^ipi> you download the packages, and then pkgadd them
[20:03:38] <e^ipi> you can also use blastwave's pkg-get
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[20:05:02] <plavcik> thx, if there will be no package for SXCE, how to get build environment? (which packages I shal install?)
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[20:07:58] <plavcik> I mean, I see python and make in path, but no cc, c++
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[20:08:56] <seanmcg> plavcik, you want sunstudio, go get the sunstudio express build.  Its a tarball than would be installed to /opt (or anywhere you like).
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[20:09:19] <seanmcg> plavcik, if you want gcc, then add /usr/sfw/bin to your path
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[20:09:50] <plavcik> thank you for all answers
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[20:10:36] <zimmermanc> anyone familiar with the proper installation for netbeans py rolling builds, just check it out over my current netbeans install? it appears to be a complete build with python added
[20:10:39] <Asako> suncc is better any way
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[20:13:34] <Asako> sunfreeware.com is also nice
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[20:17:01] <YazzY> what chmod is -rw------T ?
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[20:17:12] <yksinaisyyteni> 1600
[20:17:22] <YazzY> thanks
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[20:18:18] <trygvis> what does the T mean?
[20:18:23] <yksinaisyyteni> sticky without executable
[20:18:55] <trygvis> hm, when is that useful?
[20:19:14] <yksinaisyyteni> 1750
[20:19:39] <yksinaisyyteni> but whether it's actually useless doesn't matter - since you can set it, there needs to be a way to display it
[20:19:54] <trygvis> true
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[20:22:12] <YazzY> miniroot/microroot on the LiveCD/DVD is 1600
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[20:33:47] <CosmicDJ> hehe good question
[20:33:48] <CosmicDJ> ww
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[20:36:58] <hudnix> I'm having difficulty getting a zfs root installed with 2008.11... is there some special trick to it like with the SXCE builds?
[20:39:24] <e^ipi> zfs root is not an option in 2008.xx
[20:39:26] <e^ipi> it is mandatory
[20:40:14] <codestr0m> hudnix: what's the issue with your zfs root install?
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[20:41:21] <ab5tract> why is compiling ruby with readline support such a PITA?
[20:41:42] <benley> it's ruby
[20:41:47] <e^ipi> automake?
[20:42:43] <e^ipi> automake, n. A program that turns a simple, successful operation in to a complex multi-step operation which inevitably results in failure
[20:42:56] <ab5tract> ha
[20:43:17] <ab5tract> benley, hard to make that argument when its opensolaris that's making it hard
[20:44:08] <codestr0m> ab5tract: are you using the spec file or by hand?
[20:44:52] <ab5tract> is there a spec file for 1.8.7?
[20:45:09] <codestr0m> ab5tract: there's spec files all over the place. it's possible
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[20:46:06] <Cyrille> but with automake, instead of having a simple makefile that you may have to port to multiple OSs, you have a bunch of uncomprehensible files which take ages to create and which will inevitably fail to produce an actual makefile on as many OSs as you want.
[20:46:52] <e^ipi> heh
[20:47:12] <hudnix> Oh, mandatory :) I kept aborting the install, because it wouldn't ask :)
[20:48:24] <hudnix> Will it detect an existing SXCE zfs install?
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[20:58:42] <CIA-34> Brent Paulson <Brent.Paulson at Sun dot COM>: 6772392 sshd auditing could be more accurate for failed logins to invalid accounts
[20:58:43] <CIA-34> Gordon Ross <Gordon.Ross at Sun dot COM>: 6769022 bge driver should support BCM 5756M (pciex14e4,1674)
[20:58:43] <CIA-34> Daniel OpenSolaris Anderson <opensolaris at drydog dot com>: 6771064 kcf_soft_config_init leaks across the board
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[21:02:02] <boggy> Everytime I try to install anything through package manager I get violated constraints... ie: Package pkg:/SUNWcsl at 0 dot 5.11,5.11-0.101 conflicts with constraint in installed pkg:/entire:  	        Pkg SUNWcsl: Optional min_version: 0.5.11,5.11-0.86 max version: 0.5.11,5.11-0.86 defined by: pkg:/entire
[21:02:40] <boggy> but it gives me this same error for just about anything i try to install not just csl
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[21:07:08] <Stric> you using 2008.05 original iso and trying to install packages from latest development tree?
[21:07:45] <boggy> yes.. i used original to install but i did the pfexec pkg install updates like the release notes states
[21:08:18] <Stric> so 'uname -v' says what?
[21:08:37] <boggy> snv_86
[21:08:46] <Stric> so you're still running old stuff
[21:09:18] <Stric> have you done the pkg image-update  and not rebooted yet?
[21:09:34] <boggy> no i haven't
[21:09:39] <Stric> then do that
[21:09:49] <Stric> it creates a new boot environment with all the updates
[21:09:50] <boggy> i've rebooted already and did a system update and i'm running pfexec pkg install entire now
[21:09:53] <Stric> you're still in the old
[21:10:02] <boggy> ok
[21:11:04] <dustman_> which SUNW package contain man pages for cat, tar, etc.?
[21:11:56] <boggy> boggy@opensolaris:~# pkg image-update Traceback (most recent call last):   File "/usr/bin/pkg", line 50, in ?     import socket   File "/usr/lib/python2.4/socket.py", line 45, in ?     import _socket ImportError: ld.so.1: isapython2.4: fatal: relocation error: file /usr/lib/libnsl.so.1: symbol MD5Init: referenced symbol not found
[21:11:58] <e^ipi> SUNWman IIRC
[21:11:59] <boggy> :/
[21:12:03] <e^ipi> but they may not be avail. on 2000
[21:12:07] <e^ipi> *2008.xx
[21:12:23] <Stric> 2008.11rc2 should have more man pages according to some release notes
[21:12:34] <dustman_> ah
[21:12:41] <e^ipi> yeah, so goes the theory
[21:12:55] <dustman_> SUNWman is installed here but no man pages for simple utilities
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[21:17:32] <dustman_> btw, what's difference between SUNWman from 2008.xx osol and solaris 10/08?
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[21:18:51] <Stric> dustman_: solaris contains non-opensourced stuff as well.. osol 2008.xx is only opensourced stuff, and up until now, there has not been all manpages there.. now there are more.. but still not all
[21:19:57] <dustman_> Stric: zfs in 10/08 is v10? and few other things are older
[21:20:23] <Stric> dustman_: yup.
[21:20:38] <dustman_> so if I replace osol's man with man from solaris, how much I'd mess up?
[21:22:11] <quasi> dustman_: there's not that many changes
[21:22:35] <quasi> dustman_: but bits and pieces will be missing
[21:23:13] <dustman_> nice.. I think I'll replace the package and use docs.sun.com for the rest
[21:23:21] <dustman_> thanks folks
[21:23:36] <quasi> I was going to suggest using docs.sun.com and not replace anything
[21:24:02] <quasi> the docs can be downloaded as zipped pdfs these days
[21:24:49] <comay> dustman_ if you use 2008.11, you have most of the man pages
[21:25:29] <comay> Stric, just a clarification that not all of 2008.05 or 2008.11 is open-source; however, all of the binaries are redistrubtable by third parties
[21:25:37] <dustman_> snv_101a
[21:25:54] <dustman_> and many man pages still missing
[21:26:06] <comay> RC2 (aka snv_101b) has an update which adds most of the missing man pages
[21:26:19] <comay> in particular, all of the traditional UNIX pages are there now
[21:26:42] <dustman_> hm, I used pkg image-update couple of days ago
[21:28:49] <comay> the repo was just updated late friday
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[21:32:30] <aquanaut> Hi, How to find which process is associated with a socket?
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[21:34:22] <asyd> install lsof, or parse pfiles output, or use the correct dtrace script
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[21:38:51] <aquanaut> No luck with lsof
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[21:43:18] <Asako> boy, solaris doesn't like hardware changes
[21:43:30] <e^ipi> boot -r
[21:43:36] <e^ipi> or touch /reconfigure
[21:43:43] <CosmicDJ> touch /reconfigure
[21:43:46] <e^ipi> but no, it's generally not a fan of them
[21:43:49] <Asako> ah
[21:43:56] <holcomb> devfsadm
[21:44:01] <Asako> it just kernel panicked and rebooted itself
[21:44:02] <CosmicDJ> cfgadm
[21:44:23] <Asako> no big deal, I'll stick with the original box
[21:44:28] <CosmicDJ> hm that's bad; what hw did you change?
[21:44:40] <Asako> from an athlon X2 to a Woodcrest
[21:44:51] <Asako> so everything but the drives and nic
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[21:45:24] <CosmicDJ> touch /reconfigure && init 6 or boot -r should do the trick though
[21:45:49] <e^ipi> or add the -r flag to the kernel's grub line
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[21:55:45] <Asako> how can drives have different amounts resilvered?
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[21:57:35] <sickness> no gcc in 2008.11?!? :/
[21:57:48] <Auralis_> i have gcc on mine
[21:58:23] <CosmicDJ> not installed by default IIRC
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[21:58:47] <sickness> uhm
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[21:59:42] <bda> So install it.
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[22:03:20] <e^ipi> studio is better ( ss-dev ) but gcc is there too ( gcc-dev )
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[22:35:06] <iHateWindows> hi
[22:35:11] <iHateWindows> anyone here/?
[22:35:14] <trygvis> no
[22:35:15] <e^ipi> no
[22:35:23] <iHateWindows> Ah, good
[22:35:45] <iHateWindows> I installed OpenSolaris but can't get WiFi to work
[22:36:14] <iHateWindows> What should I do?
[22:36:31] <e^ipi> you should paypal me $200
[22:36:55] <esaxe> what sort of wireless nic do you have?
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[22:38:45] <esaxe> If you are not sure, you can check in "Applications -> System Tools -> Device Driver Utility
[22:38:57] <esaxe> or /usr/X11/bin/scanpci
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[22:44:28] <rv-> iHateWIndows> depending on your wifi hw, there's drivers on the opensolaris.org drivers community
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[22:48:49] <TazX> hi there, got a problem creating a bootable usb stick installation of  101b/RC2
[22:48:55] <TazX> getting :
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[22:49:05] <TazX> <ICT Nov 24 20:36:38> bootadm_update_menu output: bootadm: biosdev command failed for disk: /dev/dsk/c5t0d0s0.
[22:49:05] <TazX> <ICT Nov 24 20:36:38> bootadm_update_menu output: bootadm: is_bootdisk(): cannot determine BIOS disk ID 'hd?' for disk: /dev/dsk/c5t0d0s0
[22:49:05] <TazX> <ICT Nov 24 20:36:38> bootadm_update_menu output: bootadm: get_grubroot(): cannot get (hd?,?,?) for menu. menu not on bootdisk: /dev/rdsk/c5t0d0s0
[22:49:40] <TazX> after trying to boot that stick I get only grub , not able to get the rpool with menu.lst
[22:49:50] <TazX> comay: any clues Dave ?
[22:50:02] <iHateWindows> I installed Windows yesterday because I couldn't get OpenSol WiFi to work, I'll install OpenSol again and will get back to you
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[22:51:07] <TazX> iHateWindows: try it, I guess it will fail for you too
[22:51:15] <TazX> I think it's something with BIOS and zfs
[22:51:19] <comay> TazX best to check on #caiman-discuss; but i believe they're still issues here
[22:51:33] <iHateWindows> TazX, will fail for me too?
[22:51:56] <TazX> comay: hmm, makes sense, let me ping someone from caiman team or ask local Prague folks tomorrow before filing a bug
[22:52:08] <iHateWindows> TazX, you think It's not worth trying?  Will I waste my time, shall I stick to Windoows?
[22:52:15] <FreakGuard> hello guys, I'm just trying scxe in a VBox, X seems not to work and fallback to console (not that I care about that), but the keyboard seems to need an UNRAW
[22:52:40] <TazX> iHateWindows: you're choice ... I was talking about a specific use case when installing OpenSolaris to usb stick
[22:52:52] <iHateWindows> AAah
[22:52:55] <TazX> iHateWindows:  s/you're/your/g
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[22:53:30] <iHateWindows> tazX, your
[22:53:43] <iHateWindows> you're = you are
[22:54:06] <TazX> iHateWindows: yeah, that's what I meant with the vim replace command ;) tank you ;)
[22:54:23] * TazX don't know how to type
[22:54:34] <TazX> guess it's too late for me, gn #opensolaris
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[22:55:59] <iHateWindows> btw, is OpenSolaris a linux distro or is it Solaris?
[22:56:06] <Auralis_> solaris of course
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[22:56:17] <iHateWindows> So it has nothing to do with linux?
[22:56:34] <Auralis_> entirely different kernel
[22:56:43] <iHateWindows> Can I run linux software on Open Solaris?
[22:56:55] <Auralis_> if you get it compiled yes
[22:57:01] <xRaich[o]2x> yes inside a brandz
[22:57:32] <FreakGuard> iHateWindows, no. it's got troll autodetection and if you fail that, nothing will run
[22:57:49] <iHateWindows> My basic problem is that I've formatted Vista 5 times in 3 months because of viruses etc
[22:58:32] <victori> get a mac
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[22:58:37] <iHateWindows> Will I have problems of this sort with OpenSol, or will I work with peace of mind
[22:58:37] <e^ipi> so quit surfing porn and clicking 'okay' on everything?
[22:58:43] <iHateWindows> I have a Mac
[22:58:50] <iHateWindows> haha, 4 in fact
[22:59:03] <victori>  /concurs with e^ipi
[22:59:11] <iHateWindows> I have a crappy PC laptop too, which I wanna convert to anything but Windows
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[23:00:05] <e^ipi> and typically 'viruses' and 'hackers' are usually a scapegoat for user error
[23:00:11] <iHateWindows> So you suggest I stick to Windows, rather than OpenSol?
[23:00:28] <e^ipi> no, i'm just a running commentary
[23:00:38] <iHateWindows> heh
[23:00:41] <codestr0m> actually, I'd disagree and say that users are the scapegoat for poor security habits from certain large companies
[23:00:51] <e^ipi> codestr0m: both are true
[23:00:55] <Archite> heh
[23:01:24] <iHateWindows> So, is configuring OpenSol worth my several hours, or should I just keep my Windows install instead?
[23:01:27] <e^ipi> in highschool i worked at a PC shop and most of the "viruses" we had to clean up were people just doing idiotic things like wiping out the registry or w/e
[23:01:49] <Archite> iHateWindows, I use OpenSolaris for my work laptop and my primary home system. I think it's worth it
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[23:02:08] <iHateWindows> thank god Mac doesn't have shit like "registry"
[23:02:24] <iHateWindows> Archite, great, you've convinced me
[23:02:25] <Archite> yes, it just has plist hell. Why have them all in one place easy to find
[23:02:41] <Archite> better yet, let's make them binary so that you have to convert them before editing
[23:02:45] <Stric> Archite: or you can have them in ldap.. base64 encoded xml in ldap. yeehaa.
[23:02:52] <Archite> heh
[23:03:05] <Stric> to make full use of ldap
[23:03:08] <iHateWindows> (I'm installing OpenSolaris... YAY!)
[23:03:18] <Archite> don't get me wrong, I like Mac's but I prefer Solaris over them.
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[23:03:29] <e^ipi> iHateWindows: umm... netinfo /is/ a registry
[23:03:43] <Archite> netinfo is gone :'(
[23:03:56] <e^ipi> yeah, now there's no way to do certain things at all
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[23:04:29] <Archite> basically, Apple ran out of NeXT guys who knew netinfo so they wanted to replace it
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[23:04:46] <Auralis_> jesus steve doesn't thinks you need to be able to do that
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[23:05:00] <Archite> there is a replacement for it that works relatively the same, just mostly CLI
[23:05:36] <e^ipi> iHateWindows: my laptop is a mac, the rest of my network is solaris... works pretty well for me
[23:05:54] <dustman_> pkg: unable to create BE None
[23:05:54] <dustman_> pkg: image-update cannot be done on live image
[23:05:55] <e^ipi> for that matter, my laptop runs opensolaris too just because i wanted to prove a point
[23:06:10] <dustman_> what can I do?
[23:06:21] <Archite> install it first?
[23:06:23] <e^ipi> dustman_: not try to image-update a livecd?
[23:06:44] <dustman_> e^ipi: this is hd
[23:06:53] <iHateWindows> Million Dollar Question: Solaris 10 vs OpenSolaris 2008.05?
[23:07:07] <Auralis_> 2008.11
[23:07:08] <e^ipi> iHateWindows: for a desktop? 2008.11
[23:07:09] <Archite> dustman, eject
[23:07:16] <Archite> try running that from terminal
[23:07:24] <Archite> if your cd drive opens, you're running from hd, if not...
[23:07:48] <Archite> iHateWindows, OpenSolaris
[23:07:58] <dustman_> Archite: I had Tago-Mago by Can in my only optical drive
[23:08:03] <Archite> Solaris 10 has come a long way but it's much more UNIX-ey than you're most likely used to
[23:08:19] <Archite> dustman, hmmm, then that becomes more interesting
[23:08:23] <Archite> oh
[23:08:25] <iHateWindows> e^ipi, 2008.05 seems to be the latest you can download from the site
[23:08:26] <Archite> dustman, did you use pfexec
[23:08:35] <dustman_> if person uses win, everything is 'unixy'
[23:08:37] <Archite> iHateWindows, use genuinix
[23:08:41] <e^ipi> iHateWindows: try opensolaris.org rather than .com
[23:08:43] <dustman_> Archite: of course
[23:08:44] <Archite> grab 101a or 101b, whichever they have on there
[23:08:56] <Stric> iHateWindows: http://www.opensolaris.com/get/index.jsp  .. right side
[23:09:05] <Archite> dustman, what about $(pfexec beadm create opensolaris-1)
[23:09:06] <dustman_> and I can't use beadm to create new BE
[23:09:10] <Archite> ah
[23:09:24] <dustman_> dustman@oak:~$ pfexec beadm create osol101RC2
[23:09:24] <dustman_> Unable to create osol101RC2.
[23:09:24] <dustman_> Mount failed.
[23:09:49] <iHateWindows> Obviously 200.11 is still beta
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[23:09:56] <iHateWindows> 2008.11
[23:10:02] <e^ipi> iHateWindows: no, it was beta 2 months ago
[23:10:07] <e^ipi> now it's a release candidate
[23:10:08] <Stric> and 2008.05 is the same, but 6 months older
[23:10:12] <FreakGuard> I'm playing around with scxe... is it possible to create a raid-z with the installer?
[23:10:18] <dustman_> SUNWipkg is updated prior to starting image-update
[23:10:19] <Archite> dustman, what does /var/log/messages say
[23:10:27] <Auralis_> FreakGuard: no
[23:10:29] <e^ipi> FreakGuard: no, you cannot boot off raidz
[23:10:30] <iHateWindows> Release Candidate 1b, so it's like gama
[23:10:34] <e^ipi> so the installer doesn't let you try
[23:10:35] <iHateWindows> or delta
[23:10:37] <iHateWindows> w/e
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[23:10:48] <e^ipi> no, it's a release candidate
[23:10:50] <Stric> iHateWindows: you can update to the real thing when it's released any day now
[23:11:01] <iHateWindows> Ah, good
[23:11:09] <iHateWindows> via System Update?
[23:11:18] * Archite can't wait
[23:11:20] <e^ipi> yeah
[23:11:25] <FreakGuard> Auralis_, hm. but I can use 4 disks as raid-z anyway without something sepearte, I assume
[23:11:27] <e^ipi> "image-update" in ips parlance
[23:11:31] <iHateWindows> cool (gets hard-on)
[23:11:45] <Archite> wow, you need to get out more iHateWindows
[23:11:52] <Auralis_> FreakGuard: yeah, just not for the boot drive
[23:11:54] <Archite> I mean, it's not that exciting
[23:12:04] <e^ipi> FreakGuard: you can add an additional zpool to your system, yes
[23:12:20] <iHateWindows> Yeah, I saw a woman this week
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[23:12:22] <iHateWindows> wooow...
[23:12:39] <FreakGuard> hm... so I need mor than 4 disks if I want to raid-z them
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[23:12:53] <e^ipi> FreakGuard: no... you need 3 disks
[23:12:57] <iHateWindows> (OS installs...)
[23:13:00] <e^ipi> for a raidz
[23:13:09] <dustman_> Archite: no /var/log/messages
[23:13:12] <e^ipi> you will also need a separate pool for your boot device
[23:13:13] <zimmermanc> what's "ON 103" mean in the topic there?
[23:13:14] <Archite> iHateWindows, it's takes a bit to install. You may want to get a coffee
[23:13:23] <e^ipi> zimmermanc: OS/Net consolidation build 103
[23:13:23] <FreakGuard> I know. But I wanted to combine 4 disks to a raidz
[23:13:23] <Archite> dustman, sorry, /var/adm/messages
[23:13:31] <FreakGuard> so I need a fifth to install the system on it
[23:13:39] <FreakGuard> can that one be something like an usb-stick? :)
[23:13:40] <e^ipi> ON = kernel, libs, userland
[23:13:40] <zimmermanc> hrm never heard of it
[23:13:46] <Auralis_> FreakGuard: best to use 2 for the OS, mirrored zpool
[23:14:02] <iHateWindows> Great Idead Archite, how do you like it?
[23:14:14] <iHateWindows> 66% btw...
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[23:14:41] <FreakGuard> Auralis_, so 2 partitions on 2 drives for some mirrorind and the other drives/parititons for raidz?
[23:14:47] <Archite> iHateWindows, it's the last 15% that is interminable
[23:14:50] <FreakGuard> or ist that not 'optimal'?
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[23:15:21] <e^ipi> FreakGuard: it's best to give zfs full disks if you can
[23:15:23] <Auralis_> FreakGuard: 2 drivers for the OS, rest of the drives however you like/need
[23:15:25] <e^ipi> rather than partitions
[23:15:58] <FreakGuard> Auralis_, I can't really afford 2 drives just for the os
[23:16:19] <e^ipi> i can't afford not to have 2 disks for the OS
[23:16:27] <FreakGuard> hehe
[23:16:31] <e^ipi> if one of them craters, i like that things continue to work
[23:16:41] <e^ipi> rather than having to reinstall and reconfigure everything
[23:16:46] <dustman_> brb
[23:16:56] <FreakGuard> so 4 big disks + 2 small ones of the OS
[23:16:58] <e^ipi> my configuration is 2 160GB disks mirrored for boot, and 3 750G disks for data in a raidz
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[23:17:19] <Archite> heh, nice setup- e^ipi
[23:17:49] <FreakGuard> e^ipi, but what do you do in case of power supply break? ;)
[23:18:12] <norman> his data is still valid, due to zfs :) maybe not the latest version of all files, but still valid ;)
[23:18:12] <e^ipi> swap out the power supply
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[23:18:20] <Auralis_> i run 2x320gig for the OS, and will be adding over the weekend 3x1tb for data
[23:18:30] <e^ipi> i don't need to spend 3 days reinstalling everything when i swap out a power supply
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[23:18:41] <e^ipi> i need to run across the street to the tech shop, and drop in a new one
[23:18:54] <e^ipi> then turn the power on
[23:19:31] <Auralis_> i want a redundant atx power supply tha tis not designed to sit in a datacenter, aka sound of a jet engine
[23:20:08] <e^ipi> they make them
[23:20:10] <norman> it just needs a bigger fan :) not these 40x40, but maybe a 120x120 :)
[23:21:07] <Auralis_> i haven't foudn one yet
[23:21:26] <ZOP> does anyone here know where the max # of lockd nfs locks is set and how to check their status?  sol 7/8/9 had 'crash' and the 'lck' command inside of it...but i have no idea the mdb (or dtrace?) equivalent to check the current # of locks and the max #....
[23:21:30] <e^ipi> i've seen them... they don't really give enough power though, IIRC the one i saw was 300W
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[23:22:11] <Auralis_> i saw a pair, 450 and 550w, but 50db ....
[23:22:37] <e^ipi> i'm not terribly concerned with an hour or two of downtime on my home machine
[23:23:35] <FreakGuard> will 10GB be sufficient to run a testsystem? (root partition)
[23:23:51] <e^ipi> should be fine
[23:24:06] <e^ipi> my xen domains are all 8GB
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[23:25:09] <moazamraja> any idea how to get the 'forest' extension for Mercurial ?
[23:25:19] <moazamraja> 'hg clone http://www.terminus.org/hg/hgforest hgforest
[23:25:23] <moazamraja> gives me a 404
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[23:25:33] <codestr0m> moazamraja: maybe try in #mercurial
[23:25:40] <codestr0m> and do you need the forest extension?
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[23:29:08] <moazamraja> codestr0m: got it....and yes, it is needed for OpenJDK 7 build.
[23:29:30] <codestr0m> moazamraja: 100% ping twisti_ on that. he's built it before iirc
[23:29:37] <moazamraja> correct command was 'hg clone http://hg.akoha.org/hgforest hgforest'
[23:29:40] <codestr0m> or maybe only icedtea
[23:30:11] <moazamraja> I'm working with instructions from:
[23:30:11] <moazamraja> http://landonf.bikemonkey.org/code/java/SoyLatte_Meets_OpenJDK.20080819.html
[23:30:17] <moazamraja> and it seems to be working well
[23:30:23] <codestr0m> moazamraja: btw. if you plan to build this or work with it more often. may way to join #openjdk on oftc
[23:31:10] <iHateWindows> OpenSolaris has installed
[23:31:27] <iHateWindows> To the quiery
[23:31:48] <iHateWindows> I'm trying to enable WiFi
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[23:32:35] <iHateWindows> Archite, e^ipi, I've installed OpenSolaris, what steps do I follow to enable WiFi?
[23:33:25] <alanc> boot a system with a wifi card in that has a driver installed for it, should default to auto enabling and searching for a network
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[23:34:33] <iHateWindows> alanc I don't een know how to install things on OpenSolaris... one by one please
[23:34:43] <iHateWindows> even*
[23:34:56] <eviljames> iHateWindows: Is the wifi card installed?
[23:35:04] <iHateWindows> Yes
[23:35:07] <dustman> I really don't know what to do with halting image-update
[23:35:15] <FreakGuard> is it possible to boot from a software-raid1?
[23:35:21] <iHateWindows> eviljames, yes installed?
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[23:35:36] <iHateWindows> Can I have someone's phonenumber please?
[23:35:40] <iHateWindows> For help
[23:35:46] <eviljames> iHateWindows: Ok, in the System menu, under Administration there should be an entry for drivers.
[23:36:20] <dustman> does 2008.11RC2 have an option to upgrade existing install?
[23:36:36] <eviljames> dustman: pfexec pkg image-update
[23:36:50] <eviljames> dustman: that should get you the latest/greatest stuff from pkg.opensolaris.org I think.
[23:37:28] <FreakGuard> iHateWindows, docs.sun.com
[23:37:35] <alanc> dustman: install CD does fresh install only, expects you to use pkg image-update for upgrades
[23:37:39] <dustman> eviljames: it doesn't work
[23:37:42] <iHateWindows> eviljames, I found Device driverUtility
[23:37:49] <eviljames> iHateWindows: Yes.  That is the one.
[23:37:50] <iHateWindows> Device Driver Utility
[23:37:53] <iHateWindows> ok
[23:38:04] <eviljames> iHateWindows: In there it should tell you if your device has a driver, and if it is supported.
[23:38:30] <iHateWindows> It's showing me 3 Driver Problems
[23:38:41] <dustman> should I file a PR for my update problem?
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[23:38:55] <Archite> dustman, still having issues?
[23:39:01] <dustman> yep
[23:39:04] <iHateWindows> eviljames, My Audio card, Ethernet, and ACPI Device
[23:39:36] <eviljames> iHateWindows: They are saying "driver missing" or are they misconfigured?
[23:39:55] <Archite> dustman, http://markmail.org/message/5a45jh75xhf5glvi#query:cannot create beadm+page:1+mid:aigtyf4nssivubsh+state:results
[23:39:58] <iHateWindows> eviljames, the RTL8187B_WLAN_Adapter USB seems to be fine on that list
[23:40:07] <dustman> I'm thinking of waiting for 2008.11 and installing anew, followed by zfs export/restore from second hd
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[23:40:17] <eviljames> dustman: On my system, it hangs for a good 5 - 6 minutes before doing any productive work.. are you getting an error?
[23:40:18] <Archite> blah, that didn't insert right, did it
[23:40:21] <_setuid_H> Almost midnight everyone :-)
[23:40:23] <eviljames> dustman: pkg, that is.
[23:40:24] <Archite> anyways, it's like the second result when searching for your issue
[23:40:26] <iHateWindows> eviljames, the Azalia Audio thinh says misconfigured, the rest say missing driver
[23:41:02] <Archite> iHateWindows, you need to update. A lot of work went into audio between 2008.05 and 2008.11
[23:41:03] <_setuid_H> iHateWindows: What a nice nickname
[23:41:10] <eviljames> iHateWindows: Ok, RTL8187B WLAN is probably the first hurdle to tackle.  ACPI leads me to believe that you won't be able to suspend/hibernate and such.
[23:41:20] <eviljames> Oh, I guess I probably should've asked that first :)
[23:41:23] <eviljames> Archite: good call.
[23:41:38] <iHateWindows> eviljames, meaning, how do I fix WiFi for now?
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[23:43:17] <dustman> Archite: not exactly my problem
[23:43:38] <iHateWindows> eviljames, any clue as to how I can fix WiFi then?
[23:43:45] <eviljames> iHateWindows: Do you know much about the device itself?
[23:43:46] <Archite> hmmm, looked like they had the same error as you did. Too bad. Sorry
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[23:43:54] <dustman> I could upgrade from 2008.05 to svn_101a using beadm/pkg combo
[23:43:56] <iHateWindows> eviljames, needless to say you're extremely kind for helping me this way..
[23:44:16] <iHateWindows> eviljames, no nothing more than that
[23:44:20] <dustman> now I can't even create BE using beadm
[23:44:50] <eviljames> iHateWindows: Ok, well, I'm going to do some googling and see what I can come up with.
[23:45:11] <iHateWindows> eviljames, You're awefully kind
[23:45:13] <eviljames> iHateWindows: I *think* that the driver is probably already installed on your system, and just needs to be told that your device speaks its language
[23:45:25] <eviljames> iHateWindows: I could be wrong, though... some researching, and I'll be back shortly :)
[23:45:38] <iHateWindows> eviljames, Great, thanks so so so much
[23:46:24] <iHateWindows> eviljames, BTW I don't even know where the "Find WiFi Networks" tool is on OpenSolaris
[23:46:38] <prav33n> iHateWindows, dladm
[23:46:53] <iHateWindows> prav33n, What sorry?
[23:46:56] <rv-> pfexec dladm scan-wifi
[23:46:56] <eviljames> It probably won't do you much good without the driver being installed.
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[23:47:12] <rv-> heh, right
[23:47:18] <iHateWindows> rv-, what!?
[23:47:28] <eviljames> Does anybody know if the RealTek 8180 is the same as the 8187?
[23:47:30] <iHateWindows> rv-, is that... English?
[23:47:35] <eviljames> heh
[23:47:39] <eviljames> iHateWindows: Do you use Linux at the moment?
[23:47:46] <rv-> iHateWindows> that command will list the available wifi networks
[23:47:59] <prav33n> iHateWindows, If you have the drivers installed 'pfexec dladm scan-wifi' will list the WiFi networks in range
[23:48:17] <iHateWindows> eviljames, I just installed it on my laptop, I'm a spoilt Mac user... sorry
[23:48:19] <Asako> is xVM in solaris 10?
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[23:48:46] <iHateWindows> rv- so where exactly do I input that command?
[23:48:53] <eviljames> iHateWindows: Ahh, ok, well, I don't know the equivalent command for pfexec on a Mac, but it's somewhat equivalent to sudo on Linux.
[23:48:55] <prav33n> Open a terminal
[23:49:04] <rv-> iHateWindows> if u installed the last version (and have the wifi drivers), there should be an icon on the task bar which displays the wifi nets around
[23:49:31] <iHateWindows> eviljames, I've got OpenSol on my laptop, let's forget the Mac
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[23:49:42] <eviljames> Ladies and gentlement, iHateWindows' problem cannot be solved via dladm if the device driver dialog tells him the RTL8187 driver is missing.
[23:49:58] <e^ipi> eviljames: OSX uses sudo as well
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[23:50:12] <eviljames> e^ipi: Ah, I did not know.
[23:50:59] <eviljames> e^ipi: You may be more familiar with scanpci and the like than I am.  I busted apart the intel driver before it officially supported the onboard lan on a tower here
[23:51:10] <iHateWindows> eviljames, the WiFi driver doesn't say "missing" under Device Driver Utility
[23:51:21] <eviljames> e^ipi: I added a couple of lines from scanpci..
[23:51:24] <eviljames> oh
[23:51:30] <eviljames> iHateWindows: What?  I thought it did?
[23:52:00] <iHateWindows> eviljames, It does for sound card, LAN card, and ACPI
[23:52:00] <eviljames> iHateWindows: I mis-read above, the ethernet card is the one that has driver missing?
[23:52:11] <iHateWindows> eviljames, sorry, I didn't make clear LAN card
[23:52:18] <eviljames> haha, my fault, it's all good.
[23:52:26] <iHateWindows> eviljames, WAN card appears ok
[23:52:29] <eviljames> So, open up a terminal
[23:52:37] <eviljames> I think it's under Accessories off the main menu.
[23:52:42] <iHateWindows> Opened
[23:52:50] <eviljames> Once you're at the command prompt type : pfexec dladm scan-wifi
[23:53:12] <eviljames> pfexec -> profile execute (for the purposes of this exercise means "Do the following as root" but that's not the only function)
[23:53:20] <iHateWindows> "dldam command not found"
[23:53:29] <eviljames> dl a d m :)
[23:53:31] <iHateWindows> Ooops, typo
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[23:53:36] <iHateWindows> :P
[23:54:23] <iHateWindows> eviljames, I don't see anything
[23:54:32] <iHateWindows> eviljames, it just went underneath
[23:54:45] <iHateWindows> eviljames, started a new line, that is
[23:55:00] <eviljames> Someone who is more familiar with the opensolaris/wifi combo should help you... I can only point to links as I use opensolaris in a different capacity :/
[23:55:11] <prav33n> iHateWindows, First try 'pfexec dladm show-wifi'
[23:55:24] <eviljames> iHateWindows: http://opensolaris.org/os/community/laptop/wireless/
[23:55:25] <dustman> damn, I thought linux brandz could cause a problem but removing it doesn't help
[23:55:36] <eviljames> iHateWindows: There should be a ton of info there...
[23:55:36] <prav33n> Does the output show any interfaces' name?
[23:55:57] <iHateWindows> eviljames, prav33n is something supposed to happen when I type that in
[23:56:07] <iHateWindows> ?
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[23:56:26] <iHateWindows> I mean will I immediately see something happen on the screen?
[23:57:26] <iHateWindows> No, I type it in, press enter and it simply starts a new line "name@opensolaris:~$
[23:57:36] <eviljames> hm.
[23:58:01] <eviljames> Is there a networking icon in the top-right by the clock?
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[23:58:32] <CIA-34> James Moore <James.Moore at Sun dot COM>: 6771003 panic[cpu0]/thread=2a104909ca0: BAD TRAP: type=31 rp=2a104909940 addr=e0 mmu_fsr=0 in module idm
[23:58:32] <CIA-34> Liane Praza <Liane.Praza at Sun dot COM>: 6775723 svccfg setprop should attempt to infer type of new properties
[23:58:34] <prav33n> iHateWindows, http://opensolaris.pastebin.ca/1266202
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[23:59:03] <prav33n> That would be a sample output if everything is normal
[23:59:09] <iHateWindows> eviljames, no wifi icon , no
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[23:59:38] <FreakGuard> WARNING: cpu0 failed to update microcode from version 0x0 to 0x60b
[23:59:44] <prav33n> Of course the MAC addresses are intentionally scrambled in the output





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