[00:00:57] * cabrioleur is impressed with opensolaris, but something is missing.
[00:01:08] <bda> Bunnies?
[00:01:31] <tsoome> dead penguins i guess
[00:01:52] <e^ipi> cabrioleur, is it pants?
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[00:01:56] <e^ipi> you should put some pants on then
[00:02:03] <cabrioleur> A free, easily accessible book on OpenSolaris website I guess. That would help me w hole lot.
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[00:02:11] <e^ipi> other than docs.sun.com you mean/
[00:02:20] <e^ipi> see /topic for details
[00:02:35] <bda> cabrioleur: There's also the OpenSolaris admin wiki and PDFs.
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[00:02:39] <cabrioleur> e^ipi, I did check it out, but it's not what I was looking for.
[00:02:55] <e^ipi> what is it you're looking for then?
[00:03:02] <e^ipi> because i've yet to run in to better docs than the S10 SAG
[00:03:10] <bda> http://wikis.sun.com/display/OpenSolaris/OpenSolaris
[00:03:10] <cabrioleur> But, enough complaining, I'm impress in general.
[00:03:37] <bda> hm, where'd the wiki for the actual admin guide go?
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[00:06:07] <Ouroboros> anyone know why the dhcp client might start refreshing the IP constantly before the appropriate refresh time (say 1/2 lease time) ?
[00:06:09] <cabrioleur> Solaris came a long way since 8...
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[00:07:07] <Ouroboros> also, is there a dhcp client log besides what is network/physical:default.log ?
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[00:08:53] <e^ipi> yeah, go figure... 10 years later software's advanced a bunch
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[00:15:48] <swankier> how do I disable nagle (delayed ack)?
[00:17:35] <MindDrive> Ouroboros, are you saying that your client is renewing halfway into the lease time allocated?
[00:18:42] <MindDrive> If so, that's normal procedure.
[00:20:11] <Ouroboros> MindDrive: i am saying that for some reason it did *not* do that, but instead refreshed every hour and then died
[00:21:13] <Ouroboros> there also dont appear to be any log messages of this happening, except in the server log
[00:21:36] <MindDrive> A client is allowed to attempt to renew before T1, but it sounds like either your client is acting a bit wonky or the server is refusing the renew requests.
[00:22:00] <MindDrive> (Possibly both)
[00:22:19] <Ouroboros> the server accepted all of the renews
[00:22:39] <Ouroboros> i am just trying to understand what could have triggered the client to begin refreshing
[00:22:51] <Ouroboros> perhaps it had something to do with ntp and the time change on Sun?
[00:23:52] <Ouroboros> although i guess the time change is a purely local thing
[00:24:02] <MindDrive> That shouldn't have had an effect, but... hmm...
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[00:26:34] <Ouroboros> at the end when i tried "ifconfig nge0 dhcp status" it said "not under dhcp control", is this normal if it couldnt refresh the ip?
[00:27:32] <MindDrive> Are you running NWAM?
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[00:28:19] <Ouroboros> no, physical:default
[00:31:34] <MindDrive> Something definitely sounds a bit out of sorts, but sadly I don't know enough about the Solaris client to be sure...
[00:34:14] <Ouroboros> well, i will see if it repeats for the current lease
[00:34:22] <Ouroboros> if not, then we will just keep between ourselves :)
[00:35:20] <MindDrive> Heh, no problem. :)  (Which reminds me, at some point I need to start testing the DHCPv6 client for Solaris... should be fun...)
[00:35:39] <Doc> nah..  IPv6 doesnt need DHCP.  I read it in the specs!
[00:36:23] <MindDrive> Some of my company's customers would disagree with you. ;)
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[00:37:09] <bsdbandit> anyone using rbac
[00:37:10] <bsdbandit> ?
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[00:37:42] <bsdbandit> in trying to figure out what system calls does rbac use
[00:37:42] <bsdbandit> ?
[00:38:20] <e^ipi> chkauthattr and friends
[00:38:29] <e^ipi> the man page has references to the rest of them
[00:38:40] <Ouroboros> /var/spool/cron/crontabs/root is the correct places to put system-level tasks?
[00:38:43] <e^ipi> auth_attr.h and secdb.h
[00:40:57] <bsdbandit> oh ok
[00:41:25] <bsdbandit> im looking send rbac commands to my syslog server
[00:41:33] <bsdbandit> im not tying to use auditing
[00:45:19] <MindDrive> Depends a bit, Ouroboros; there are a few commands that are better in another account's crontab ,but for generic things that need to be run as root, yes.
[00:45:41] <MindDrive> (Editing the crontab file directly is not a good idea, however. :) )
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[00:46:15] <Ouroboros> why is that? possibility of mistakes?
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[00:51:06] <Ouroboros> i guess 'crontab -e' works
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[00:52:17] <MindDrive> Yeah, 'crontab -e' will do some  basic checking.
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[00:53:30] <Ouroboros> what happens for lines with the same time parameters, is there an order guarantee?
[00:53:41] <tCzern> e^ipi: Hello again :-)
[00:55:16] <bda> Also locking, though you may not care about that.
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[00:55:44] <e^ipi> mm
[00:56:03] <bda> Ouroboros: Example?
[00:56:10] <bda> Oh, I see what you mean.
[00:57:03] <bda> If you have depeneds, you should provide some locking mechanism the scripts know to use, or use a && b && c or something horrible.
[00:57:06] <bda> depends, rather.
[00:57:10] <Ouroboros> i mean, i can adjust the times by minute increments, but this doesnt seem optimal
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[00:58:06] <Ouroboros> hm, i suppose it launches them as separate processes, so you are right
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[00:58:46] <tCzern> I got the Live CD running on my PC without real problems, got some PCI error messages first, but then it started
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[01:03:17] <tCzern> nice article: http://www.techworld.com/opsys/features/index.cfm?featureid=1922
[01:03:39] <tCzern> and it's 3 years old!!
[01:05:07] <th> is there some way to flush the automountd tables? i just shared a new fs and cant see it yet in /net/host/...
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[01:09:00] <Plazma> i guess it's safe to assume wpa_supplicant requires openSSL ?
[01:09:06] <Plazma> being as it complains about the lack of libssl
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[01:10:04] <coffman> th: try svcadm restart system/filesystem/autofs:default
[01:10:11] <th> coffman: i already did that
[01:10:33] <coffman> hm
[01:10:33] <th> coffman: i even disabled autofs but /net/host/foo/{a,b} was still there
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[01:11:00] <th> thats propably only empty dirs as mountpoints though
[01:11:21] <bsdbandit> anyone using rbac
[01:11:22] <bsdbandit> ?
[01:11:33] <th> showmount -e shows that "host" does export /foo/{a,b,c}  but /net/host/foo only contains a,b
[01:11:40] <DotYet> hi
[01:11:50] <DotYet> need some help friends
[01:12:06] <DotYet> i am getting a kernel panic while using SNV 98
[01:12:23] <DotYet> on intel emt64
[01:12:31] <Ouroboros> congratulations
[01:12:51] <DotYet> panic[cpu3]/thread=afd5bde0: BAD TRAP: type=e (#pf Page fault) rp=afd5bb0c addr=4e555358 occurred in module "unix" due to an illegal access to a user address
[01:13:07] <DotYet> can someone point me in some direction here
[01:13:29] <DotYet> i am not much into kernel debugging
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[01:13:59] <DotYet> however, i do have access to the kernel in debugging mode through a serial console
[01:14:31] <DotYet> the error happens immediately after it shows the Solaris banner messages once you boot from SNV98 DVD image
[01:15:45] <DotYet> oops
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[01:18:36] <DotYet> can someone help?
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[01:21:49] <swankier> is there a problem like ntop that is in the pkg repository or in the base install?
[01:21:49] <swankier> something that will give me rough throughput numbers and other statistics?
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[01:22:03] <jamesd> swankier, snoop
[01:22:16] <swankier> hmm, are there mores to snoop that I don't know?
[01:22:52] <swankier> it just know how to make it give packet traces
[01:22:52] <jamesd> netstat
[01:23:07] <jamesd> you can use dtrace to create your own.. else you are pretty much limited to 3rd party apps, like  ntop, wireshark, mrtg
[01:24:21] <swankier> yeah, I'm using netstat and snoop right now... it's just not very good for big picture stuff.
[01:24:31] <swankier> (I'm trying to figure out some iscsi performance bits...)
[01:24:38] <swankier> right now I'm seeing iscsi work in bursts...
[01:24:40] <swankier> and I don't know why
[01:25:04] <jamesd> is it iscsi on top of ZFS?
[01:25:07] <th> coffman: just using a different hostname (with default dsndomain added) helped - there is a cache somewhere - and it's not in the running automountd
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[01:25:47] <jamesd> burstyness is common in ZFS, you can adjust bursyness pattern
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[01:30:23] <Michael_Knight> Hello. I'm trying to install OpenSolaris 2008.05 (snv_86 32-bit) as domU in Xen 3.2.1 (OpenSuse 11.0 is dom0). And I have panic in Solaris after xm create. Is Solaris 2008.05 compatible with Xen 3.2?
[01:31:38] <Michael_Knight> I use paravirtualisation
[01:32:25] <tCzern> I am trying to find a list of supported hard ware for opensolaris, is there such a thing online somewhere?
[01:32:56] <Michael_Knight> !hcl
[01:33:22] <tCzern> Michael_Knight: for me?
[01:34:11] <Michael_Knight> tCzern: I've found this http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl/
[01:34:35] <tCzern> great, thank you!
[01:34:59] <Michael_Knight> hcl is very popular command for channel bots. As I see there is no such command on this channel.
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[01:35:37] <tCzern> I am not very skilled with such bots at all, that's why I wasn't sure what this means
[01:36:06] <e^ipi> there are not bots on this channel
[01:36:21] <e^ipi> bots can die in a fire
[01:37:18] <tCzern> cannot find any support for midi interfaces
[01:37:43] <Michael_Knight> Can somebody tell me what version of OpenSolaris should I donwload to use it on x86 in Xen 3.1 as domU ?
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[01:56:38] <Triskelios> Michael_Knight: current SXCE build, since that's what most instructions exist for
[01:57:15] <Michael_Knight> Triskelios: thanks
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[01:58:59] <CIA-58> tc99174@train: 6748344 Huron/T5120 fails xnetlbtest using sunvts 6.4ps4
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[02:04:11] <Ouroboros> do you have to run 'svcadm refresh system/cron' after 'cron -e' ?
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[02:07:29] <mannytx> hello
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[02:08:16] <mannytx> does anyone come here?
[02:08:50] <jbit> yes?
[02:09:03] <swankier> I've having some serious performance problems with opensolaris -> zfs -> iscsi -> vmware -> windows
[02:09:05] <Ouroboros> mannytx: nah, anyone is usually found in #linux
[02:09:12] <swankier> can anyone suggest a method of debugging this?
[02:09:56] <e^ipi> are you using gzip compression?
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[02:10:13] <e^ipi> if so, the solution is 'don't do that'
[02:12:55] <mannytx> wow, where did everyone come from!
[02:13:05] <jbk> yay.. i finally have a clean ON build
[02:15:03] <mannytx> did you up the ram to 1024... do you have spare ram?
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[02:15:51] <mannytx> I use virtualbox at 1024 & video at 16...
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[02:17:09] <Triskelios> swankier: try iscsi locally on the server?
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[02:20:57] <swankier> can someone look at this who's up on iscsi?  http://www.pastebin.ca/1244504
[02:21:02] <swankier> it's netstat output
[02:22:26] <swankier> you'll see that there are 4 seconds where traffic drops to near nil
[02:22:36] <swankier> during this time, the same large file is being transferred
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[02:24:00] <swankier> therefore, I would expect there to be a steady stream of packets
[02:24:00] <swankier> not this wavy pattern
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[02:29:42] <lkthomas> e^ipi, hey
[02:29:46] <lkthomas> e^ipi, you there ?
[02:29:50] <e^ipi> yeah, what's up
[02:30:00] <lkthomas> interesting that scrub cause opensolaris hang
[02:30:27] <lkthomas> is it normal ?
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[02:31:18] <e^ipi> shouldn't
[02:31:19] <lkthomas> I got the exact problem with this post: http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=291950
[02:31:43] <e^ipi> i mean, IO will go way up so things may slow down if you need to queue transactions
[02:31:51] <e^ipi> eg if you don't have enough ram and you start hitting swap
[02:32:08] <lkthomas> I don't think it is the case ?
[02:32:19] <lkthomas> check that post please
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[02:32:28] <lkthomas> it is the exact problem I have
[02:32:32] <lkthomas> now, I am scare to scrub
[02:32:39] <lkthomas> once scrub, server hang for sure
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[02:36:17] <swankier> how can I list devices to interrupts?
[02:38:23] <e^ipi> lkthomas: i dunno, if that happens consistently maybe it is the same thing
[02:38:44] <e^ipi> maybe reply to the thread instead of asking me, b/c i have no idea
[02:38:50] <e^ipi> sounds like a deadlock or something
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[02:39:49] <swankier> to answer my own question: echo ::interrupts | mdb -k
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[02:44:10] <infinity2> where might i find the mysql client package for opensolaris running on intel
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[02:46:27] <e^ipi> other than in the package repository ?
[02:46:36] <e^ipi> or on the DVD if you went  that route?
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[02:47:19] <infinity2> i don't know where the package repository is.
[02:47:23] <infinity2>  pkg  search mysql == no results
[02:49:10] <e^ipi> pkg.opensolaris.org
[02:49:17] <e^ipi> you can just look on that page
[02:49:20] <e^ipi> SUNWmysql5
[02:49:34] <e^ipi> or, for that matter, SUNWmysql
[02:50:04] <Gman> infinity2: you need -r
[02:50:07] <Gman> to search the repository
[02:50:12] <Gman> pkg search -r mysql
[02:51:15] <e^ipi> or what Gman said
[02:52:02] <e^ipi> :)
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[02:59:35] <infinity2> k. thnka.s i'll try that.
[03:00:13] <SYS64738> where is the correct place to keep xvm .cfg and pvm kernels ?
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[03:05:06] <Plazma> Is this currentlyt he only way to setup wireless on b99+ ? - http://opensolaris.org/os/community/laptop/wireless/wpa/
[03:05:12] <Plazma> err wireless with wpa/wpa2
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[04:18:19] <lkthomas> ok guys
[04:18:20] <lkthomas> so damn funny
[04:18:35] <lkthomas> my opensolaris can not ping anything else than default gateway
[04:18:42] <lkthomas> I mean, such as 192.168.1.x
[04:18:52] <lkthomas> except 192.168.1.1 is reachable, anything else can't
[04:18:54] <lkthomas> any idea why ?
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[04:31:55] <tCzern> I guess it is possible to have a dual boot solution with opensolaris and linux, right?
[04:32:26] <Plazma> lkthomas, are you pinging everything by IP address or DNS?
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[04:38:52] <lkthomas> nevermind, seems problem is comes from Switch
[04:38:54] <lkthomas> hmm
[04:39:01] <lkthomas> change to another switch then everything is fine
[04:39:08] <alanc> tCzern: yes, I have a machine setup with grub offering to boot into OpenSolaris 2008.05 or Fedora 9
[04:39:24] <alanc> the OpenSolaris install docs give details on setting up multiboot machines
[04:39:33] <tCzern> ok,
[04:39:57] <tCzern> will  need to figure out if opensolaris is a good platform for audio recording
[04:40:14] <tCzern> looking at studio64 which is based on debian ....
[04:41:10] <tCzern> what are you guys mostly doing with it?
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[04:58:58] <CIA-58> Quaker Fang <Quaker.Fang at Sun dot COM>: PSARC 2008/444 Ralink RT2501/2601USB 802.11a/b/g Wireless Driver, 6600499 Request to support for the usb wireless adapter: Airlink101(usb148f,2573)
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[05:30:38] <mostlypeaceful> does anyone here run djbdns in opensolaris?  i'm having some problems getting daemontools to run it correctly.
[05:34:35] <bda> Don't use daemontools.
[05:34:38] <bda> Use SMF.
[05:35:42] <bda> http://nopaste.snit.ch/14454 # A simple manifest.
[05:36:23] <bda> http://nopaste.snit.ch/14455 # A simple method.
[05:36:30] <bda> One is for tinydns, the other for dnscache. But anyway.
[05:36:37] <bda> They work just fine in Solaris/SXCE/OpenSolaris.
[05:37:15] <bda> (I install them via pkgsrc/ the env vars are because the methods are rewritten using some internal code depending on the target platform ; it's still stupid, but anyway)
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[06:06:48] <jklyekai> hello,  I install sol_99 with console mode. what's root's passwd? thanks
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[06:35:31] <qiyong> is there any license problem to port some linux driver to osol?
[06:35:45] <qiyong> and further, how to get it merged?
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[06:37:01] <spackest1> anyone here running project indiana on servers?
[06:37:23] <spackest1> I would like to switch from nevada to indiana when 2008.11 releases
[06:37:35] <jamesd> not if they have a clue.
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[06:38:28] <abisen> is there a way like netserver for sharing using apple's afp protocol in Solaris
[06:38:35] <abisen> can't find netserver in blastwave
[06:39:37] <gerard13> abisen, you need netatalk
[06:39:49] <gerard13> you have to compile it yourself
[06:40:25] <abisen> gerard13: thanks... just wondering why a package is not already made, was curious to see if there was any other package
[06:40:35] <abisen> gerard13: but you answered my query... thanks
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[06:46:00] <spackest1> jamesd: so you're saying that folks with a clue wouldn't run indiana on a server?
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[06:54:15] <bda> I know clueful folks who do that. It seems to work pretty well for them.
[06:55:36] <spackest1> yeah, not sure the major differences, same kernel, right?
[06:57:21] <bda> It's bleeding edge. It contains a fair amount of new, not as tested, software.
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[06:57:37] <bda> As long as you know what your'e getting into, and are careful, it's doable.
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[06:57:51] <bda> "Not if they have a clue" is a bit much. "Not for the faint of heart" is probably better.
[06:58:14] <bda> Target workload obviously matters a great deal, too.
[06:58:22] * bda is for bed. &
[06:58:58] <CIA-58> Anil udupa <anil.udupa at sun dot com>: 6433954 ptc and ptsl needs to have properly sequenced code
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[07:16:00] <gerard13> solarisinternal.com is down?
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[07:28:14] <jklyekai> hello, if hg command is default in the opensolaris? I install sol_99,but it does't have.
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[08:46:50] <oxygene> great. the 10u6 dvd isn't recognized as bootable disk on my desktop (but is on my notebook)
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[09:11:25] <DTEIT> morning
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[09:52:34] <quasi> gerard13: solarisinternals.com works - you had a typo
[09:52:52] <gerard13> quasi: yes it works now
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[09:53:44] <quasi> gerard13: when you type the right domain name
[09:56:19] <e^ipi> yeah, DNS sucks
[09:56:25] <e^ipi> it should just /know/ where you want to go next
[09:57:00] <quasi> domain squatters will be the first in front of the firing squad when the revolution comes
[09:58:10] <e^ipi> in france they call them elections
[09:59:51] <jbit> e^ipi: firing squads? ;P
[10:00:05] <e^ipi> no, revolutions
[10:00:22] <e^ipi> every 4 or 5 years
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[10:08:18] <victori_> stupid question but where are the solaris kernel modules located?
[10:10:42] <oxygene> in /kernel and /usr/kernel
[10:11:04] <_mary_kate_> and /platform
[10:11:42] <e^ipi> and ' man filesystem '
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[10:13:41] <e^ipi> which lists all of them
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[10:17:40] <glance> hurm.
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[10:43:19] <lkthomas> how come zfs list does not update the usage of filesystem ?
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[10:46:11] <e^ipi> what?
[10:46:18] <chrisg> what?!
[10:47:20] <lkthomas> 1. zpool list usage does not match with zfs list
[10:47:41] <lkthomas> 2. I am transfering file to one fs, but zfs list does not update the usage number at all
[10:48:30] <e^ipi> no, zpool and zfs are different things
[10:48:35] <e^ipi> but "usage number" ?
[10:48:44] <lkthomas> I mean, used space
[10:48:47] <_mary_kate_> lkthomas: not matching is probably caused by your using raidz
[10:48:52] <lkthomas> sorry that I did not have enough sleep
[10:48:56] <lkthomas> had*
[10:48:59] <_mary_kate_> lkthomas: in which case zpool shows the physical space, but zfs shows the logical space (excluding parity)
[10:49:20] <lkthomas> but it doesn't make sense and it stuck at 93.5GB
[10:49:26] <lkthomas> I am transfering file over 1Gbit network
[10:49:30] <lkthomas> it should be relatively fast
[10:49:39] <lkthomas> it have stay as 93.5GB for hours already
[10:50:00] <lkthomas> does zfs list update very often ?
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[10:54:28] <Stric> lkthomas: should update at every transaction update at least (which by default is every 5 secs)
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[10:54:56] <lkthomas> hmm
[10:54:59] <Stric> lkthomas: do you have compression on and the file contains a whole lot of NULs?
[10:55:07] <botox> anybody familair with the hpasm utils?
[10:55:10] <botox> *familiar
[10:56:02] <botox> i need to know more info regarding what the actual checks are when you do a "show dimm"
[10:56:06] <lkthomas> Stric, good question
[10:56:11] <lkthomas> Stric, possible due to compression
[10:56:31] <lkthomas> but mostly is .jpg
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[11:49:42] <glance> http://pastebin.com/m3e7fd861 hmm...
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[11:50:12] <glance> that dl385 just dont want to boot a modern solaris.
[11:52:24] <DTEIT> dl385 is the amd version?
[11:52:37] <glance> jupp
[11:53:01] <DTEIT> i have the intel version and no problem (dl380)
[11:53:27] <glance> i have a bunch of those and they are booting just fine....
[11:53:37] <glance> but this one isn't
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[11:53:54] <DTEIT> did you try a memtest?
[11:55:15] <glance> b86 (os200805) boots on it but more modern builds dont.
[11:56:41] <DTEIT> solaris boots?
[11:56:54] <glance> the pastebin trace is from u6...
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[12:59:25] <CIA-58> vitezslav batrla - Sun Microsystems - Prague Czech Republic <Vitezslav.Batrla at Sun dot COM>: 6763596 scsa2usb returns negative pkt_resid when it fakes inquiry response
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[13:25:01] <ahmed> hi
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[13:51:44] <tomww> glance: the extra driver supplement disk used for the raid controller? (just an idea)
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[13:57:56] <tynar> hi, how can I read process info into psinfo struct?
[13:58:44] <Stric>     ret = read(fd, &main_data->psinfo, sizeof(psinfo_t));
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[14:05:33] <tynar> Stric, would this work if(read(psp), &processInfo, sizeof(struct psinfo) == -1)
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[14:06:43] <Stric> if you place the )'s at the right place, yes
[14:08:12] <tynar> :), how will i reach the process id from processInfo struct
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[14:08:50] <Stric> see /usr/include/sys/procfs.h
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[14:14:01] <trygvis> anyone ever seen this error when luupgrading?
[14:14:02] <trygvis> http://rafb.net/p/arbmtD50.html
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[14:19:01] <tynar> can someone help me how get the process id from psinfo struct?
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[14:21:22] <asyd> tynar: man -s 4 proc
[14:21:31] <asyd> field pr_pid
[14:21:51] <tynar> printf("%s\n",processInfo->pr_psargs); does not work, however i see that it contains the pr_pid and the paths, etc
[14:22:03] <tynar> from debug
[14:22:20] <Stric> why are you printing pr_psargs if you want the pid?
[14:23:01] <tynar> i can't print pid too
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[14:23:20] <asyd> tynar: can you paste yoru code somewhere
[14:23:41] <Stric> tynar: I know that this works, because I wrote code for it 8 years ago (and it still works)
[14:24:19] <tynar>  if(read(psp, &processInfo, sizeof(struct psinfo)) == -1){exit(1);} printf("%s\n",processInfo->pr_psargs);
[14:25:07] <Stric> that code works if psp is a file handle of /proc/<somepid>/psinfo
[14:28:17] <tynar> psp is int
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[14:28:59] <Stric> but what does it contain? did you open the file /proc/<somepid>/psinfo ?
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[14:31:24] <tynar> asyd http://pastebin.com/m569ed06e
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[14:33:35] <tynar> stric, yes i have read the correct psinfo file into processinfo struct, but cannot print psargs.
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[14:35:10] <asyd> read ?
[14:35:12] <asyd> hmm
[14:35:23] <asyd> tynar: take a look in svn.asyd.net/svn/zonestats
[14:35:29] <asyd> (sorry I can't paste a link :/)
[14:35:44] <tynar> asyd, ok
[14:36:34] <asyd> pastealacon.com/1572
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[14:40:18] <tynar> thank you
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[14:43:33] <Alasdairrr> This is totally off topic but are there any web tv stations one can watch coverage of the US election?
[14:44:10] <Gekz> Fail.
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[14:52:10] <tynar> Stric, i solved it by adding sprintf(path, "%s", processInfo.pr_psargs); ... thanks
[14:52:10] <asyd> :)
[14:52:27] <tynar> it was easy :)
[14:52:35] <asyd> Gekz: by fail... you talk about the US election or.. ? :)
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[14:54:43] <Gekz> US election.
[14:54:47] <Gekz> and the fact you'd want to watch it
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[14:57:51] <Alasdairrr> The outcome of the election affects all of us. I know we have no say in the process, but it's interesting and entertaining to watch.
[14:57:56] <MrData_> Hi folks
[14:58:10] <Alasdairrr> ("we" being people outside America)
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[14:58:57] <MrData_> I have configured the zfs cifs server on an opensolaris cluster.
[14:59:01] <CIA-58> Viswanathan Kannappan <Viswanathan.Kannappan at Sun dot COM>: 6755849 mntfs code is not MT safe and cause panic
[14:59:21] <MrData_> Q: How do i set an netbios-alias for the cluster-name of the fileserver?
[15:00:36] <MrData_> in samba: netbios aliases =
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[15:48:58] <DTEIT> re
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[17:01:13] <houst0n-> Hf folks, anyone tried to use the sol8/9 containerd built into s10u6?
[17:01:28] <houst0n-> When I verify from zonecfg, i get: solaris8_support error: The Solaris 8 Containers right-to-use package has not been installed
[17:01:42] <houst0n-> ... wat? I didn't need that on u5 afaik
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[17:03:22] <_mary_kate_> i've never heard of the S8 stuff being free to use
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[17:06:05] <houst0n-> Crap. Where can I buy one?
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[17:06:18] <houst0n-> I have 15 boxes to shift by Thurs
[17:06:35] <Stric> call sun?
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[17:06:51] <houst0n-> I hate calling sun .. I'll get someone else to do it :P
[17:06:53] <houst0n-> Cheers
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[17:30:01] <jsilveronnelly> Hi I hope this is the right channel...
[17:30:17] <jsilveronnelly> I want to install GNU "file" on Solaris with pkg-get
[17:30:34] <jsilveronnelly> anyone know what package that is in?
[17:30:42] <axisys> how do I lu from b94 to b101 ?
[17:30:46] <jsilveronnelly> or maybe that isn't available via pkg-get
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[17:36:03] <acctor> is there anything I can do to resume after pkg times out? I have tried to update my image 3 or 4 times now
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[17:42:10] <Dakylla> hi
[17:42:28] <Dakylla> i've a problem with my X configuration (blank black screen)
[17:42:41] <Dakylla> how can i go to the shell please ?
[17:43:06] <Dakylla> is there a combo like Ctrl+Alt+F? on linux
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[17:52:45] <houst0n-> Dakylla: IS this before or after dtlogin/gdm?
[17:52:53] <houst0n-> Oops, "Is" even
[17:53:21] <houst0n-> Also what rel. of solaris?
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[17:56:05] <Dakylla> 10 5
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[17:59:04] <CIA-58> Mark Powers <Mark.Powers at Sun dot COM>: 6260053 Solaris Cryptographic Framework needs to support AES in GCM mode
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[18:19:17] <Plazma_Work> I'm not at my laptop now so I can't try anything , but i was messing with wificonfig and wpa_supplicant last night and after i ran wpa_supplicant.. i ran "wificonfig -i ath0 setparams proto=WPA" and it came back with "proto": Operation not permitted
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[18:19:38] <Plazma_Work> and I am root
[18:20:12] <Plazma_Work> i think when i installed wiifconfig from the opensolaris site .. it setuid and setgid on wificonfig
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[18:24:41] <_setuid_H> Evening all
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[18:31:59] <mijenix> hi
[18:32:14] <mijenix> are there some issues with opensolaris 2008.11 as a virtualbox guest?
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[18:35:11] <calumb> mijenix: what sort of issues?  I'm using it without any problems...
[18:35:23] <mijenix> can't install it
[18:35:37] <mijenix> but I read something about that I need at least 1 GB RAM?
[18:35:38] <_setuid_H> mijenix: any outputs?
[18:35:45] <_setuid_H> mijenix: that's wrong
[18:35:51] <_setuid_H> 512 is enough
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[18:36:18] <mijenix> it freezes everytime I install it
[18:36:44] <_setuid_H> where?
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[18:37:01] <_setuid_H> or maybe when :-)?
[18:37:15] <calumb> 512 *should* be enough, but it's pushing it... some people have certainly reported needing more when installing as a VM...
[18:37:19] <mijenix> when I hit finish
[18:37:33] <mijenix> then it prepares the disk and at about 2 or 3% it hangs
[18:37:37] <_setuid_H> mijenix: damn that's the best time to fail :-)
[18:37:44] <mijenix> no disk/cdrom activity
[18:38:12] <mijenix> I can't open anything no terminal nothing
[18:38:49] <_setuid_H> If I were from m$ I would tell you that it is a problem of virtualbox :-)
[18:38:49] <calumb> does sound like the typical symptoms of not assigning enough memory to the VM...
[18:39:04] <mijenix> calumb: 512MB
[18:39:34] <calumb> mijenix: yeah, I wouldn't try with less than 768, personally...
[18:39:40] <mijenix> ?
[18:39:54] <mijenix> zfs issue?
[18:40:23] <_mary_kate_> mijenix: what do you want to do with it?  512M is barely enough to run JDS
[18:40:27] <calumb> not sure what the root cause is, just seen a lot of people having issues trying to install with 512...
[18:40:29] <_mary_kate_> even on UFS
[18:40:35] <_mary_kate_> (it'll work, but more is much better)
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[18:40:45] <_mary_kate_> (well, JDS will work, i don't know about install issues)
[18:41:14] <mijenix> _mary_kate_: ok, then I'll don't try it
[18:41:24] <mijenix> _mary_kate_: goal was to play with zfs
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[18:42:15] <calumb> mijenix: you might have more luck with Solaris Express... it should install with 512, in text mode...
[18:42:17] <mijenix> the only thing to use (open)Solaris
[18:42:39] <calumb> (or one of the other OpenSolaris-based distros... I haven't tried those...)
[18:43:00] <_setuid_H> mijenix: is it a big problem for you to assign more memory?
[18:43:19] <Gman> calumb: there's some underlying desktop bit taking up a lot of ram
[18:43:25] * Gman has been playing around with 512 too
[18:43:26] <mijenix> _setuid_H: yes
[18:43:33] * Gman suspects panel/tray icon
[18:43:37] <_setuid_H> _setuid_H: then you should try sxce
[18:43:41] <mijenix> _setuid_H: but don't mind no so important to test it :)
[18:43:51] <_setuid_H> _setuid_H: or strip gnome bindings during install
[18:44:02] <_setuid_H> nwam gui ...
[18:44:23] <_setuid_H> damn I'm pretty glad for adding vconsole to onnv
[18:44:32] <_setuid_H> or just to the release
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[18:46:19] <AstroTux> Hi
[18:46:33] <AstroTux> I had Vista running fine, then installed oS. ATM I can only boot oS
[18:46:44] <AstroTux> How do I add Vista to the GRUB boot options?
[18:46:49] <Gman> _setuid_H: yeah, that will be a sweet feature when they iron out the bugs
[18:48:51] <_setuid_H> Gman: yeah, at first I was angry that it doesn't work but then I looked up to svccfg and see that options/hotkeys=false, damn I was glad that it wasn't a bug :-)
[18:49:03] <_setuid_H> Gman: but yeah there are bugs
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[18:53:03] <Gman> _setuid_H: it'll be disabled by default for 2009.04
[18:53:08] <Gman> sorry, 2008.11
[18:53:15] <Gman> (i'm a release ahead already)
[18:55:09] <_setuid_H> Gman: good to know
[18:55:53] <Gman> 2009.04 will hopefully get all the X bits working
[18:57:51] <_setuid_H> anyway if you wan't to get some opensolaris wallpapers. I uloaded some (that I created before) at http://setuid.deviantart.com/gallery/#OpenSolaris-backgrounds . Actually I still didn't upload all yet. But there will be new to the end of the week. Tarball with others is at http://www.lasicka.cz/setuid/lk_bg_osol.tar.bz2 . Right now I'm working at a new one with topic moving from nevada to indiana
[18:57:58] <_setuid_H> sorry for a long post
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[19:01:01] <e^ipi> hey Gman, you still poking around?
[19:01:17] <Gman> yep
[19:02:16] <e^ipi> any chance you remember a discussion on indiana-discuss a while back about a contrib repository?
[19:02:30] <e^ipi> i'm trying to dig it up but i'm not sure what the subject: was
[19:04:03] <Gman> e^ipi: it would have been on pkg-discuss
[19:04:27] <e^ipi> hmm
[19:04:37] <Gman> i'd look for sch to start the thread
[19:06:27] <e^ipi> yeah, that's what I'm doing, i just thought you might've seen it
[19:06:48] <Gman> e^ipi: yeah, it's a good couple of months ago
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[19:14:51] <_setuid_H> Ok guys kfc time is over :-) Bye
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[19:39:37] <holcomb> i <3 liveupgrade
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[20:01:45] <_mary_kate_> how does ZFS index directory contents for fast lookup?
[20:02:20] <_mary_kate_> (and what's the limit until it starts being noticably slow?)
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[20:04:26] <sickness_> I'm back
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[20:06:53] <jamesd> sickness, becareful, you don't look well body parts are falling off... you just lost your tail
[20:10:06] <sickness> yeah
[20:10:20] <sickness> I had to reregister since I've reconnected :P
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[20:12:33] <sommerfeld> _mary_kate_: using extensible hash tables using the "zap" module.
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[20:12:57] <sommerfeld> _mary_kate_: limit depends on whether or not your workload likes doing "ls -l" or equivalent.
[20:13:08] <_mary_kate_> sommerfeld: it doesn't.  lookups by filename only
[20:13:18] * _mary_kate_ looks at zap.c
[20:13:49] <sommerfeld> should do very well, then.
[20:15:04] <m0zzzy> do I need to setup alternative default route in global zone in order to use it with defrouter local-zone property?
[20:15:55] <_mary_kate_> (personally i think having a directory with 250,000 files is a stupid design decision, but rather hard to change right now...)
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[20:22:44] <holcomb> grrr
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[21:05:45] <holcomb> what happens when your log device fails?
[21:05:58] <holcomb> it just cancels out transactions and falls back to normal mode?
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[21:08:01] <sommerfeld> holcomb: if only the log device fails (but the system stays up), the system will use the main pool devices to store the intent log.
[21:08:28] <sommerfeld> you'll only lose pending transactions if the log device fails and *then* you crash
[21:09:05] <holcomb> word
[21:10:36] <jbit> sommerfeld: wow, it's almost is zfs was designed to not lose data :)
[21:10:42] <jbit> quite an amazing thing for a filesystem actually
[21:10:52] <e^ipi> s/almost//
[21:11:02] <e^ipi> that was precisely why it was designed...
[21:11:13] <jbit> e^ipi: i know, was being smarmy :)
[21:11:21] <e^ipi> ahh
[21:11:45] <sommerfeld> certainly there are ways to mess up a pool so it's unrecoverable (import it read-write simultaneously on two systems)
[21:12:45] <Doc> hit it with a hammer.  spill beer over it.  etc
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[21:13:07] <e^ipi> Doc: nope, bonwick had a demo about that
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[21:13:16] <e^ipi> smashed a disk with a hammer on stage... good times
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[21:13:31] <Doc> smashing a disk is ok.  smashing the pool is the problem :)
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[21:14:36] <jbit> e^ipi: did he get paid for it?
[21:14:41] <jbit> if so... best job ever :)
[21:15:10] <jbit> did he plug it in after he smashed it to prove it's dead? :)
[21:15:21] <sommerfeld> jbit: it was plugged in while he smashed it.
[21:15:25] <jbit> ah
[21:15:27] <sommerfeld> (usb disk, I think)
[21:15:44] <cypromis> no
[21:15:47] <cypromis> SAS
[21:15:47] <sommerfeld> there was active i/o to the pool at the time
[21:15:54] <jbit> he killed a sas disk? :(
[21:15:54] <cypromis> ghe did it at Java One
[21:16:00] <sommerfeld> it's been done several times
[21:16:02] <cypromis> and at Sun Tech Days in St. Petersburg
[21:16:18] <cypromis> at Java One hthey even used a drill
[21:16:18] 
[21:16:54] <e^ipi> jbit: yes, he did get paid for it
[21:17:10] <e^ipi> presos are work functions
[21:17:18] <jbit> dramatic effect :)
[21:17:26] <Doc> proves nothing tho.  even disksuite from 20 years ago would handle that
[21:17:43] <jbit> was it 15krpm? if so i bet it made a great noise :)
[21:18:06] <jbit> they make great enough noises when spinning up :)
[21:18:07] <e^ipi> Doc: yeah, it's just something to do on stage
[21:18:49] <e^ipi> not sure how they could demo self healing though, maybe take the cover off a disk and hold a nail to the platter for a second
[21:19:19] <jbit> just opening it would probably be enough to screw some data over
[21:19:23] <holcomb> dd if=/dev/random isn't as dramatic
[21:19:35] <jbit> also, opening a 15krpm sas drive doesn't sound particually safe
[21:20:05] <sommerfeld> jbit: they had a plexiglas shield up between the disk & the audience in the video I watched.
[21:20:15] <jbit> hah
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[21:21:05] <jbit> just take the disk out, install windows on it, put back in array
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[21:23:38] <mostlypeaceful> Hi, I'm walking through a Kerberos admin guide at http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/816-4557/setup-1?a=view.  For some reason though kdb5_util is not present on my system.  I'm running opensolaris.200811-100a
[21:24:34] <mostlypeaceful> kadmin.local is missing too
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[21:30:49] <tobeya> mostlypeaceful, pkg list |grep -i kerb
[21:31:52] <tobeya> sorry, "krb" the package is SUNWkrb
[21:32:25] <mostlypeaceful> tobeya: got it.  thanks!  i'm looking at solaris10 docs trying to map to opensolaris and it's confusing at times.
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[21:34:11] <mostlypeaceful> SUNWkrb doesn't contain kdb5_util either... hrm
[21:34:45] <mostlypeaceful> SUNWkdc is it!
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[21:35:49] <e^ipi> aside from a few missing packages it shouldn't be that different
[21:36:41] <e^ipi> if something's not redistrib though you'll need to grab it from the SXCE dvd
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[22:33:47] <cads> hello
[22:34:40] <cads> I hope that this is not a silly question; Is open-solaris appropriate for use as a desktop OS for a laptop?
[22:35:01] <Plazma_Work> cads it works great on mine for the most part
[22:35:50] <cads> hm
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[22:36:50] <cads> what kinds of considerations bring you to opensolaris, plazma?
[22:40:20] <Plazma_Work> uhh
[22:40:22] <Plazma_Work> it's shiny
[22:40:47] <e^ipi> actual thought is put in to it's architecture ?
[22:41:17] <Plazma_Work> *gasp*
[22:46:18] <jbk> heresy
[22:46:47] <jbk> I want whatever sticks and my null pointer dereferences to be ignored!
[22:47:14] <Plazma_Work> i want it to call my bge0 interface "connector to the seerez uv toobz"
[22:48:44] <cads> who ignores null pointer dereferences!?
[22:49:28] * benley ignores
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[22:50:15] <sommerfeld> cads: on solaris, people who LD_PRELOAD=0 at 0 dot so.1
[22:50:36] <sommerfeld> on .. less careful platforms: everyone
[22:51:03] <bda> Heh.
[22:51:25] * cads gives his compiler a stern look..
[22:52:06] <sommerfeld> the compiler has.. surprising little to do with it.
[22:52:10] <alanc> that one doesn't scare me as much as the "stop checking malloc returns for NULL, since it's a waste of time, because overcommit means malloc always succeeds, and your app just gets killed when you really run out of memory"
[22:52:46] <Asako> lol
[22:52:59] <Asako> like virtuozzo killing random processes?
[22:53:19] * alanc has heard that from certain Linux-using devs on cross-platform open source projects
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[22:53:37] <Asako> an app should never get "just killed"
[22:53:43] <jbk> doesn't that assume that it picks your application to be killed?
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[22:54:15] <Asako> I do appreciate all the engineering that goes into solaris
[22:54:22] <_mary_kate_> jbk: the OOM killer is designed to pick the most important processes
[22:55:01] <alanc> like say Xorg, since it often seems to be using the most memory, and killing it frees a ton of space since all your X clients die too
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[22:56:14] * _mary_kate_ notes that no amount of overcommit can stop running out of address space from causing a NULL return from malloc
[22:57:30] <alanc> but isn't everyone 64-bit now?   would have to have a huge memory leak with overcommit to run out of that address space....   8-)
[22:57:51] <topgun17> My new evga Nvidia GeForce 8400gs andf my system is running quite cool with the new graphics card in.
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[22:58:07] <Asako> I see lots of boxes OOM
[22:58:18] <Asako> half the time it's mysql eating ram
[22:59:03] <CIA-58> Tom Pothier <Tom.Pothier at Sun dot COM>: 6594839 cpumem-diagnosis may abort at startup, 6760008 More than one fault.memory.page were reported by the cpumem-retire module for the same memory page.
[22:59:03] <CIA-58> Charles Ting <Charles.Ting at Sun dot COM>: 6758578 iscsitgtd fails to properly store and retrieve tpgt's IP addresses
[22:59:04] <CIA-58> Todd Welke <Todd.Welke at Sun dot COM>: 6724943 WARNING: n2rng: logic error on rng(0), only 0 matches found
[22:59:17] <topgun17> does this mean i am running 64 or thirty two buit kernel? SunOS prudent 5.11 snv_100 i86pc i386 i86pc Solaris
[23:00:08] <e^ipi> topgun17: if it's a 64 bit chip , it boots 64 bit
[23:00:21] <SYS64738> I had two disk in zfs mirror, I change the broken motherboard, but now the system hangs on: this device is not bootable! what can I do ?
[23:00:39] <jbk> isainfo -k
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[23:01:33] <e^ipi> SYS64738: swap the devices around, if you forgot to install grub on the other side of the mirror
[23:01:37] <e^ipi> then it won't boot
[23:01:55] <topgun17> e^ipi: at boot it syas SunOS prudent 5.11 snv_100 i86pc i386 i86pc Solaris
[23:02:22] <e^ipi> topgun17: so you forgot if the chip is 64 bit then? if you did, use isainfo
[23:02:25] <topgun17> e^ipi: at boot it syas SunOS prudent 5.11 snv_100 64bit but when i do A uname -a it givves me SunOS prudent 5.11 snv_100 i86pc i386 i86pc Solaris
[23:02:28] <cads> anyways, I want to move away from linux but I'm kind of used to the userspace. So my concerns are three fold.. will my development environments compile in solaris (haskell, ruby and c), and how about stuff like apache and samba, and thirdly will it be time consuming to set up a comfortable desktop environment, say with media playing and internet browsing capacity (toobz capability, in other words)?
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[23:02:38] <topgun17> why is this e^ipi
[23:02:52] <SYS64738> e^ipi, I swapped them, I see grub in the two modes the sistems hans after it have loaded the kernel, It cannot find the root
[23:03:03] <e^ipi> topgun17: because it tells you which architecture you're on.. x86
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[23:03:29] <e^ipi> the 64 bit extension to it is reflected as the isa, not as the architecture
[23:03:59] <e^ipi> cads: why not try it ( and don't use samba, we have an in-kernel CIFS server that's better )
[23:04:21] <topgun17> e^ipi:  I am acturall running on a AMd Athlon X2 Duel Core 5600+  processor though and i know for a fact that that processor is inb the amd hammer familly of cpus.
[23:04:41] <e^ipi> topgun17: point being?
[23:05:14] <topgun17> e^ipi:  i am wasting 32bit of processor power or am I?
[23:05:23] <e^ipi> topgun17: uname tells you the architecture. isainfo gives you the ISA
[23:05:47] <e^ipi> and solaris will boot 64 bit unless you explicitly tell it not to, or the hardware doesn't support it
[23:06:30] <e^ipi> topgun17: and "32 bit of processor power" ?? you mean slowing down your memory bus trying to shove twice as much information in it?
[23:06:45] <topgun17> e^ipi: Ok I under stand thank for clearing that up.
[23:07:13] <e^ipi> some of the 64 bit stuff is faster on x86 only because of extra registers, but 64 bit in general is slower than 32 bit for most things
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[23:08:43] <jbit> x86-64 cleaned up alot of the arch which made it faster for the processor to schedule too
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[23:10:02] <topgun17> At least I have off loaded the video processing to a deadicated GPU which should in crease proformance?
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[23:10:51] <e^ipi> you mean like every machine does?
[23:11:14] <topgun17> yes e^ipi
[23:11:31] <e^ipi> okay, my sarcasm flew right over your head
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[23:11:39] <e^ipi> no. it won't. because every machine does that.
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[23:14:47] <topgun17> e^ipi:  I meant to say  that by installing a deadicated graphics card i free up memory addresses that would other was be split between  video and general system usage
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[23:15:28] <alanc> yes, if you switched from Intel on-board graphics to a video card, then you freed system memory for use by the CPU instead of the GPU
[23:15:58] <alanc> I'm not aware of any other on-board graphics that use system ram instead of dedicated VRAM, but that doesn't mean they don't exist
[23:16:12] <tobeya> _bob_k, why would I need to sign off again?  /me scrolls up a bit
[23:16:17] <tobeya> sorry mischan
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[23:17:20] <topgun17> I switched from Nvidia onboard graphics to a deadicated GPU so doesn't tha mea i gai n the same benifits as some one in my position witha intell b onboard graphics controler.
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[23:25:35] <topgun17> It took me  about three tries to get a working boot disk of svn_100a
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[23:31:00] <skullone> man im excited for these x4540's to come
[23:31:05] <skullone> they couldnt come at a better time
[23:31:32] <e^ipi> topgun17: yes, your nforce gpu and my intel gpu give us about the same benefit, except for 3d stuff
[23:31:39] <e^ipi> which I don't use
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[23:32:06] <SYS64738> damned bios flag ahci
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[23:39:03] <SYS64738> is it possible to upgrade an install over native ide sata driver to a ahci sata ?
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[23:47:51] <jbk> hmm interesting question...
[23:47:59] <jbk> maybe w/ zfs root
[23:48:56] <SYS64738> just put the dvd and try an upgrade ?
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[23:53:03] <topgun17> It really sucks that Sun doesn't distribute a copy of Staroffice for open solaris
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[23:53:24] <RElling1> SXCE contains staroffice
[23:53:25] <Gman> topgun17: distributes openoffice though in the repository
[23:53:37] <Gman> topgun17: what bits from staroffice do you need that isn't in openoffice?
[23:54:10] <topgun17> Gman: I need th better microsoft office interoprabilty
[23:55:29] <e^ipi> topgun17: soffice just has more fonts IIRC
[23:56:53] <topgun17> e^ipi: I need thoese fonts in order to write papers for schoo, IU could always get them and hand compile them couldn't i?
[23:57:06] <_mary_kate_> you don't compile fonts
[23:57:14] <_mary_kate_> they come as truetype or type1 files that you copy to the fonts directory
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