October 27, 2008 
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October 27, 2008 [00:00:17] <topgun17> e^ipi: i have twoo hard drisks installed in my machine cmdk1 and cmdk2 how do I format and add cmdk2 to the zpool? [00:00:28] <e^ipi> topgun17: man zpool [00:01:40] <e^ipi> TomJ: i can have 2 machines streaming decent quality ( ~ 50% of a DVD as an mpeg4 avi ) video, download some torrents, and move stuff around without hiccup [00:01:47] <e^ipi> but my pool is functional [00:01:47] <TomJ> also rather strange that I'm only seeing disk activity on 7/14 drives during that operation. is it possible it's not putting anything at all on the degraded half? [00:02:08] <e^ipi> it's possible, you'd have to check the source for implementation details [00:02:18] <topgun17> e^ipi: so I would do zpool -fn pool cmdk2? [00:02:35] <e^ipi> topgun17: no, you would read the manual page [00:02:45] <e^ipi> or the zfs admin guide [00:02:53] <e^ipi> which you can get to from the SAG ( link in /topic ) [00:06:59] <topgun17> I don't understand [00:08:32] <e^ipi> what's not to understand? [00:08:37] <e^ipi> there are guides ... you read them [00:08:42] <e^ipi> do what they tell you to do [00:08:45] <e^ipi> and then you're done [00:09:11] *** bondolo has quit IRC [00:10:34] <TomJ> hmm, during normal video playback operations + some minor torrent downloads, iostat -x shows 7 drives active with about 10% bandwidth, and the others just completely idle. that's somewhat worrying [00:11:54] <TomJ> a scrub hits all 14 disks as epxected though [00:11:56] <TomJ> well, 13, minus the dead one [00:16:30] <TomJ> yeah just seems like it's not writing to the degraded RAIDZ2 [00:16:31] <TomJ> 6.8 15.5 308.5 24.7 0.0 0.1 0.0 3.3 0 2 c3t3d0 [00:16:31] <TomJ> 114.3 106.5 3719.2 6320.7 15.3 8.4 69.4 38.0 80 86 c3t6d0 [00:16:48] <TomJ> that first drive is in teh degraded RAIDZ2, the second is in the non-degraded one [00:17:09] *** ruse39[home]__ has joined #opensolaris [00:17:17] <TomJ> so this seems like it's going to hotspot my data.. mening all the data I'm creating now is only going to be on one half of the stripe [00:17:22] <TomJ> seems a bit odd [00:17:56] *** swankier has quit IRC [00:21:58] *** Odin- has joined #opensolaris [00:26:23] <dustman> zfs related man pages are superb [00:27:01] <dustman> and examples are really helpful [00:27:47] *** nasser has quit IRC [00:32:55] *** Disorganized has joined #OpenSolaris [00:34:50] *** ruse39[home]_ has quit IRC [00:35:09] *** vds_ has joined #opensolaris [00:36:20] *** vds_ has quit IRC [00:38:08] *** vds3 has joined #opensolaris [00:39:22] *** vds3 has quit IRC [00:39:45] *** vds9 has joined #opensolaris [00:40:01] *** vds9 has quit IRC [00:43:16] *** xinkeT has quit IRC [00:45:29] <Plazma> oh bitchin, sxce picked up my XP install and seemlessly dual boots, no mroe installgrub.. wee [00:47:58] *** comay_ has joined #opensolaris [00:51:29] *** digifor has joined #opensolaris [00:52:54] *** dustman has quit IRC [00:55:49] *** MeP3aBeu has joined #opensolaris [00:55:55] *** prepnotek has quit IRC [01:01:39] *** niq has quit IRC [01:08:56] *** axxl__ has joined #opensolaris [01:11:36] *** freakazoid0223 has quit IRC [01:12:42] *** qbmaniac has joined #opensolaris [01:12:56] <qbmaniac> hello guys [01:13:16] <qbmaniac> umm [01:13:31] <qbmaniac> if i run 200805 livecd and it takes me to bash... [01:13:37] <qbmaniac> anyway to run the livecd gnome desktop? [01:14:57] <nachox> it should start a gnome desktop [01:15:04] <qbmaniac> it doesnt... [01:15:10] <qbmaniac> it says [01:15:13] <nachox> what does svcs -x return? [01:15:23] <qbmaniac> Requesting system maintenance mode.... Console login services cannot run [01:15:33] <qbmaniac> Root password for system maintenance (control d to bypass) [01:15:35] <qbmaniac> let me see [01:16:03] <qbmaniac> svcs: command not found [01:16:18] <qbmaniac> all I have is a bash3.2 screen and I cant do much [01:16:24] <qbmaniac> I can see "Jack" in home though [01:18:07] <qbmaniac> any idea nachox? [01:20:02] <qbmaniac> you speak spanish right? [01:20:32] *** freetown has joined #opensolaris [01:20:34] *** kim0 has quit IRC [01:22:02] <e^ipi> if you're in system maintenence mode of course you're not going to get a GUI [01:22:23] *** comay has quit IRC [01:22:23] <e^ipi> most likely culprit, missing driver [01:23:06] *** comay has joined #opensolaris [01:24:33] <qbmaniac> driver? what should I do? [01:24:48] <qbmaniac> it arrives there automatically [01:25:16] <qbmaniac> i mean, the opensolaris blue screen comes up loading... then it dumps me down to bash asking me for the root password for system maintenance [01:26:08] <Tilt> it's crashing on something, without you telling us what the error is before it asks for matinence... their is no way of telling [01:26:30] <qbmaniac> well there is no visible error [01:26:38] <Gman> e^ipi: here now [01:26:42] <Tilt> does it display the kernel banner ? [01:26:44] <qbmaniac> think i need to enable the "legacy ACPI" mode? [01:26:44] *** axxl_ has quit IRC [01:29:21] *** comay_ has quit IRC [01:30:02] *** ninjaslim has quit IRC [01:32:07] <qbmaniac> I added -B acpi-user-options=8 to menu.lst in my current linux grub [01:32:47] <_mary_kate_> you're trying to boot solaris from a linux grub? [01:33:18] <qbmaniac> no of course not =) [01:33:21] <qbmaniac> from a CD [01:33:30] <_mary_kate_> what did you do in your linux grub then? [01:33:43] <qbmaniac> Well I read this on sun's docs online: [01:33:44] <qbmaniac> Note - Before you install the OpenSolaris OS on a system that is running the Linux OS, save a copy of the menu.lst file. The contents of the GRUB menu.lst file dictate what is displayed in the GRUB menu when you boot the system. You will need to update the GRUB menu after the installation. For further information, see menu.lst file specifics at x86: Booting a Solaris System with GRUB. [01:33:59] <qbmaniac> And I saw this on a blog: [01:34:00] <qbmaniac> I ventured over to the OpenSolaris IRC channel (#opensolaris). There, someone who had similar problems showed me how to enable the "legacy ACPI" mode. After editing the kernel line in to grub to add "-B acpi-user-options=8", the boot proceeded smoothly. [01:34:12] <qbmaniac> So I thought I might have a similar problem [01:34:18] <qbmaniac> but it seems to have fixed nothing [01:35:38] <qbmaniac> now it doesnt even want to boot from my cd [01:35:43] <qbmaniac> oh, there we go [01:36:15] <qbmaniac> wow... i got the grub now in opensolaris splash for livecd [01:36:25] <qbmaniac> i think changing the grub might with that extra line might have done the trick [01:36:48] <qbmaniac> darn [01:36:52] <qbmaniac> back to square 1 [01:37:02] *** freakazoid0223 has joined #opensolaris [01:37:03] <qbmaniac> After the splash loading I get [01:37:12] *** PersonXXL has quit IRC [01:37:15] <qbmaniac> Copyright...blah... Use is subject to... bleh... [01:37:17] <qbmaniac> Hostname: opensolaris [01:37:20] <qbmaniac> Remounting root read/write [01:37:26] <qbmaniac> Probing for device nodes [01:37:31] <qbmaniac> Preparing live image for use [01:37:37] <qbmaniac> Requesting System Maintenance mode [01:37:43] <qbmaniac> Console login services cannot run [01:37:51] <qbmaniac> and then it asks me for a root password for system maintenance [01:47:05] <qbmaniac> might as well give up on opensolaris [01:47:20] <e^ipi> because your disk controller isn't supported probably? [01:47:38] <qbmaniac> strange [01:47:47] *** not-me-guv has joined #opensolaris [01:47:49] <e^ipi> try booting with -v and see where the kernel dumps you [01:48:06] <e^ipi> that'll give a good indication of why it wants to boot single [01:48:07] <qbmaniac> how on earth will i boot with -v ? :P [01:48:19] <e^ipi> same way you did the acpi thing [01:48:25] <e^ipi> pass the kernel an option on the kernel line in grub [01:48:28] <qbmaniac> instead of -B i try -v ? [01:48:33] <e^ipi> yes [01:48:40] <qbmaniac> ok =) [01:48:43] <e^ipi> or both [01:50:17] *** microchip_ has quit IRC [01:51:10] <qbmaniac> testing [01:52:14] <Plazma> FYI - I got b99 running AMAZINGLY on a hp nc6220 , doesn't have wireless so I can't test that [01:52:25] <Plazma> picks up sound card fine.. modem onboard LAN [01:52:40] <Plazma> haven't checked cardbus stuff yet.. [01:54:01] <moazamraja> waiting for b101 to get everything working on my lenovo y510 [01:54:15] <moazamraja> (b101 fixes broadcom support) [01:54:30] <_mary_kate_> y510? is that a non-thinkpad one? [01:54:36] *** xinkeT has joined #opensolaris [01:54:45] <moazamraja> _mary_kate_: it's "Lenovo Thinkpad y510" [01:54:53] <qbmaniac> e^ipi, 8 warnings then dumps me in the same place [01:54:57] <_mary_kate_> ah, they changed the naming scheme [01:55:05] <Plazma> b101? i didn't even see b100 for download [01:55:06] <Plazma> oh well [01:55:07] <moazamraja> it' somewhat low-end [01:55:12] <_mary_kate_> Plazma: read the topic [01:55:20] <Plazma> ha [01:55:20] <moazamraja> altho it has 3GB of RAM and a big HD also [01:55:26] <Plazma> i should become more literate [01:55:30] <Plazma> ohh [01:55:32] <_mary_kate_> 3GB is pretty low-end nowadays.. ;) [01:55:32] <moazamraja> but the cost was under $600 [01:55:35] <Plazma> durr [01:55:43] <Plazma> _mary_kate_, im an idjit apparently [01:55:45] <moazamraja> _mary_kate_: in a latop :P [01:55:54] <_mary_kate_> btw, did anyone notice that the b101 release date is the same as the ubuntu 8.10 release date? zomg!!!! [01:55:59] <moazamraja> laptop...even [01:56:07] <qbmaniac> all warnings are timeouts /pci@0,0/pci/ide@f,1/ide@1 (ata3) [01:56:46] *** naoto_gohko has left #opensolaris [01:56:51] *** ninjaslim has joined #opensolaris [01:57:31] <qbmaniac> pfff _mary_kate_ i was just thinking that [01:57:34] <e^ipi> qbmaniac: okay, so your ide controller don't work [01:57:44] <qbmaniac> why wouldn't it [01:57:49] <qbmaniac> it's running fine on archlinux [01:57:52] <e^ipi> no driver? bad driver? [01:57:55] <e^ipi> yeah, but this isn't linux [01:57:59] <qbmaniac> i know [01:58:02] <e^ipi> something that works on windows may not work on linux [01:58:02] <qbmaniac> any way to fix it? [01:58:04] <e^ipi> same deal [01:58:10] <e^ipi> write a driver, or buy a different card [01:58:19] <e^ipi> sil3112 is $5 [01:58:19] <qbmaniac> bloody hell... [01:58:31] <qbmaniac> I just bought this VIA motherboard... [01:58:34] <qbmaniac> nah [01:58:38] <e^ipi> which was your first mistake [01:58:39] <qbmaniac> I'll install ubuntu instead, nevermind [01:58:42] <e^ipi> okay, [01:58:49] <qbmaniac> thanks a lot for the help anyway [01:58:53] <qbmaniac> I guess OS is just not for me [01:58:55] <qbmaniac> at least not yet [01:59:00] <e^ipi> or rather, not for your hardware [01:59:06] <qbmaniac> yup [01:59:06] <CIA-58> Edward Pilatowicz <Edward.Pilatowicz at Sun dot COM>: 6409860 sn1 brand should use elfexec() (fix unref), 6540437 sn1 brand doesn't support indirect system calls (fix unref) [01:59:19] <jbk> sn1? [01:59:19] <e^ipi> cheap hardware tends to be supported less well than midrange or high end stuff [01:59:32] <e^ipi> jbk: *shrug* [01:59:35] <jbk> if specs are available [01:59:44] <jbk> someone might be willing to try something [01:59:53] *** qbmaniac has left #opensolaris [02:00:38] <jbk> i wonder if having a site listing chipsets and such and status (not just 'it's supported' but things like 'specs available, in progres, etc.' [02:00:55] <jbk> so that those that might be interesting in writing a driver could see what's available and what's not... [02:01:16] <_mary_kate_> ideally, the ACL would do that, but i doubt it's going to change any time soon [02:02:04] <e^ipi> the HCL's problem is that 1) it doesn't follow the source and is pretty out of date, and 2) people list motherboards there [02:02:15] <e^ipi> motherboards are unhelpful, chipsets are helpful [02:02:33] <_mary_kate_> nothing wrong with motherboards - problems are sometimes caused by fault ACPI tables and other bios-specific things [02:02:47] <_mary_kate_> of course, listing a motherboard should make its components be listed as well [02:04:14] *** swa_work has quit IRC [02:13:34] *** Rocket2DMn has joined #opensolaris [02:14:35] *** jklyekai has quit IRC [02:14:49] *** qiyong_ has joined #OpenSolaris [02:16:01] *** qiyong has quit IRC [02:19:22] *** houst0n- has joined #opensolaris [02:21:37] *** Odin- has quit IRC [02:23:56] *** topgun17_ has joined #opensolaris [02:28:37] <benley> _mary_kate_: that would require there being a good way of knowing wtf chips are on a motherboard based on its model number :-P [02:28:51] <_mary_kate_> benley: well i mean the user should enter those details [02:29:09] *** yongsun has joined #opensolaris [02:29:13] <benley> yeah, would be nice. [02:29:36] <_mary_kate_> so you could look at a board, see it has ICH9, click that, and see how well ich9 is supported [02:31:51] <e^ipi> benley: and /that/ would require model numbers being meaningful [02:31:52] *** Chipdancer_ has joined #opensolaris [02:31:56] <benley> e^ipi: :-/ [02:32:04] <benley> friggin computers [02:32:21] <e^ipi> an Asus HGA-63CA5 has no meaningful information encoded in it [02:32:45] <e^ipi> does that board exist? no, i pulled it out of my ass, which is about what asus does too [02:33:01] <benley> sure it does, it tells you that you need to root around on asus.com.tw for an hour to find where they hide their pdf manuals [02:33:21] <benley> and then, you read the pdf specs for a while until you discover that they're wrong [02:33:29] <_mary_kate_> if you're updating the ACL, it's because you have the board, so you can see what onboard hardware it has [02:33:33] <benley> then you read the chip numbers from the motherboard, unless you have already given up [02:34:23] <e^ipi> hcl... [02:34:54] <e^ipi> thing is nobody except those of us that go out of our way even know what's on their board [02:35:09] <e^ipi> and to compound the problem, no two model numbers are alike [02:35:35] <e^ipi> even though any nforce4 board is pretty much the same thing as any other nforce4 board, the HCL looks like you're not supported [02:36:05] *** topgun17 has quit IRC [02:37:59] * benley knows he has some goddamn unsupported sata chip on his board [02:38:15] <benley> (fortunately, ebay is rife with $10 sil3114 cards...) [02:38:52] <jbk> i mean, i'd love to provide missing drivers for stuff provided i can get specs, the question is what chips aren't supported but have public specs (or at least would be willing to do an NDA if absolutely necessary to some random developer)? [02:39:10] <ZOP> i don't get this... Xen Paravirtualized CentOS instance networking always works fine. the dom0, goes dead -- aparrently no ARP response traffic AFAICT. [02:39:17] *** mlh has quit IRC [02:39:25] <ZOP> (opensolaris xVM, b99) [02:39:30] <ZOP> anyone have any ideas? [02:39:33] <benley> jbk: via sata? [02:39:36] *** Chipdancer has quit IRC [02:39:39] <jbk> well for anything [02:39:45] <ZOP> at first i thought it was a driver issue but it has to be higher layer :/ [02:39:49] *** Rocket2DMn has quit IRC [02:39:51] <benley> jbk: (I have no idea if via is open with the specs for that sort of thing) [02:39:55] <ZOP> since the paravirtualized int works a treat [02:40:26] <e^ipi> benley: i have an unsupported as of a couple builds ago sata card [02:40:36] <e^ipi> nvsata is fscking broken or something [02:40:44] * benley sticks with his $10 sil3114 [02:40:48] <e^ipi> i had to offload to my ( sata 1.0 ) sil 3112 [02:43:21] *** mlh has joined #opensolaris [02:45:58] *** ShadowHntr has joined #opensolaris [02:46:13] *** yongsun has quit IRC [02:47:23] *** yongsun has joined #opensolaris [02:47:32] *** comay has quit IRC [02:51:00] <qiyong_> what is the SATA driver name? [02:51:13] <qiyong_> in the SXCE DVD [02:51:21] *** comay has joined #opensolaris [02:51:35] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o comay [02:51:52] *** badtruffle is now known as pumpkin [02:52:30] *** mshadle has joined #opensolaris [02:52:48] <mshadle> how do i edit the hostname, ip address, etc in sxce? [02:53:00] <e^ipi> mshadle: /topic [02:53:08] <mshadle> heh. [02:53:13] <e^ipi> qiyong_: it really depends which driver [02:53:20] <mshadle> i -had- it configured, but it appeared to have lost it on reboot. [02:53:40] <qiyong_> e^ipi: give an exmple [02:53:54] <e^ipi> nvsata, sil3xxx [02:53:55] <qiyong_> e^ipi: does the intall kernel unix has SATA support? [02:54:00] <e^ipi> yes, it does [02:54:08] <qiyong_> fully support? [02:54:11] <e^ipi> assuming your card is supported in general [02:54:13] <qiyong_> i got disk error [02:54:31] <e^ipi> sata is just a signaling and electrical protocol spec [02:54:43] <qiyong_> so the kernel unix doesn't require other modules except x86.miniroot, right? [02:54:44] <e^ipi> some sata cards are supported, some aren't [02:55:11] <e^ipi> for boot, the stuff you need is in miniroot [02:55:11] <mshadle> my hostname.e1000g0 is set right, but opensolaris set my hostname as "new-host [02:55:41] *** zegenvs has joined #opensolaris [02:55:49] <nachox> qiyong_, http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl/hcts/device_detect.jsp run that [02:55:50] <e^ipi> mshadle: grep the docs for 'nodename' [02:56:18] <mshadle> /etc/nodename is set too [02:56:39] <mshadle> and i keep seeing "edit /etc/nwam/llp" but i have no /etc/nwam [02:56:48] <mshadle> must be older osol? [03:03:02] <nachox> you're using opensolaris? or solaris 10? [03:03:07] <mshadle> ah-ha. /etc/dhcp.e1000g0 was still there from setup and apparently it prefers that [03:03:57] <nachox> what does "svcs | grep physical" return? [03:04:15] <mshadle> it's fine now [03:04:25] <mshadle> i had everything but needed /etc/dhcp.e1000g0 removed [03:05:53] <mshadle> is system-power really needed? [03:06:13] <mshadle> /lib/svc/method/svc-power start keeps failing, and i havent touched it since install [03:06:32] <nachox> check the logs [03:06:44] <mshadle> it just says cannot start [03:06:44] <mshadle> svc.startd could not set context for method: chdir: No such file or directory [03:06:50] <mshadle> that's the only thing :/ [03:07:26] *** fr4g has quit IRC [03:10:26] *** fr4g has joined #opensolaris [03:10:49] <mshadle> [ Oct 26 19:03:30 Executing start method ("/lib/svc/method/svc-ipagent start 60"). ] [03:10:49] <mshadle> svc.startd could not set context for method: chdir: No such file or directory [03:10:52] <mshadle> i also have that [03:10:59] <mshadle> 2 services, both having chdir issues. hrm [03:11:11] <mshadle> i do have /root symlinked to my zfs /tank/home/root [03:11:23] <mshadle> could it be trying to launch something during boot before zfs has initialized? [03:17:46] *** nachox has quit IRC [03:20:58] *** KOHJU is now known as kohju [03:22:46] <mshadle> hrm, pkg-get is broken now. heh [03:27:28] *** ibuclaw is now known as ibuclaw|sleep [03:37:26] *** mshadle has left #opensolaris [03:41:48] *** ShadowHntr has quit IRC [03:42:27] *** RavenSlay3r has left #opensolaris [03:49:57] <qiyong_> can I build opensolaris from SunOS 5.9 ? [03:51:02] <_mary_kate_> no, only 5.11 is supported for building [03:52:42] <qiyong_> can I upgrade from 5.9 to 5.11? [03:52:46] <qiyong_> _mary_kate_: ^ [03:53:03] <_mary_kate_> probably, although i doubt that's tested much [03:53:25] <qiyong_> is 5.9 still supported? [03:53:40] <_mary_kate_> yes, solaris 8 and up still have full support [03:53:57] <_mary_kate_> older versions have some form of EOL support if you pay lots of $ [03:54:42] *** flip has joined #opensolaris [03:54:56] <flip> can i ask sxce questions in here? [03:55:08] <_mary_kate_> yes, SXCE is an opensolaris distribution [03:55:16] <flip> oh cool [03:55:23] <flip> ive been trying to install 99 for days now on this new box i built [03:55:30] <flip> and it seems to install w/o error [03:55:42] <flip> yet when i restart... it seems it hasnt installed the bootloader [03:55:58] <_mary_kate_> why does it seem so? [03:55:58] <flip> i booted in -s from the dvd and did the whole installgrub thing... and now i get to the grub> prompt [03:56:08] <flip> but cant boot any further [03:56:27] <flip> ive done the whole hd(0,0,a) then kernel$ and module$ [03:56:49] <flip> but it goes to an error and starts talking about pointers and memory address' nearly instantly [03:57:53] <qiyong_> when will the solaris 8 support end? [03:58:35] *** zegenvs has quit IRC [03:59:01] <flip> _mary_kate_: i tried to install 200805 on this same box instead of sxce [03:59:23] <flip> _mary_kate_: and the dvd just gets to a point then asks me for the root pass for maintence and wnt go any further or into the installer [03:59:26] <_mary_kate_> qiyong_: http://www.sun.com/service/eosl/solaris/solaris_vintage_eol_5.2005.xml [03:59:27] <flip> which i thought was kind of strange [03:59:29] <flip> :F [04:02:38] *** T_B has joined #opensolaris [04:02:43] *** Triskelios has joined #opensolaris [04:19:07] <flip> anyone around feel like fielding a strage install issue im having? 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[05:52:55] <e^ipi> that a'int right [05:53:18] <LeftyBSD> bleh, our thumpers with 99 on them are crashing :( [05:53:38] <_mary_kate_> why did you buy $30,000 worth of hardware then put an unstable development OS on it? [05:53:46] <pumpkin> I'll take one if you don't want it, LeftyBSD [05:54:07] <LeftyBSD> heh, try $120,000 [05:54:37] <pumpkin> I'll make the sacrifice if you don't want it [05:54:55] <e^ipi> which controller do those use? [05:55:17] <_mary_kate_> marvell [05:55:35] <LeftyBSD> yeah, marvell 88-series [05:55:38] <LeftyBSD> nice controllers, though [05:55:43] <_mary_kate_> the newer one (X4540 or whatever) have a PCIe controller, not sure if it's the PCIe version of that, or something else [06:01:05] <e^ipi> but yeah, i'm with _mary_kate_ , albeit moderated [06:01:25] <e^ipi> SXCE in general in production isn't too terrible, but the latest and greatest is probably less than ideal [06:01:32] <e^ipi> particularly if you don't run it through staging [06:02:30] <e^ipi> "fucking retarded" is perhaps a less diplomatic way of putting it [06:02:32] <e^ipi> ;) [06:02:38] *** pruebando has joined #opensolaris [06:04:03] *** pruebando has quit IRC [06:10:40] <pumpkin> what does SXCE stand for? [06:10:52] <e^ipi> solaris express: community edition [06:11:14] *** LordIllpalazo has quit IRC [06:30:42] *** lkthomas has quit IRC [06:32:19] *** mitrox has quit IRC [06:34:08] *** mitrox has joined #opensolaris [06:36:18] *** axisys has joined #opensolaris [06:36:28] *** alka has quit IRC [06:36:35] *** axisys has left #opensolaris [06:42:36] *** alka has joined #opensolaris [06:45:04] <bda> Solaris Express: The Return [06:47:05] *** linma` has joined #opensolaris [06:47:35] <Stric> you mean, Solaris Express: Comes Egain [06:47:46] <freetown> Solaris Express: Champion of the Enterprise [06:49:36] *** linma` has quit IRC [06:49:54] *** linma` has joined #opensolaris [06:50:19] *** Gekz has quit IRC [06:51:53] *** luna1 has quit IRC [06:54:45] <ninjaslim> hey guys do you think that sxce will be retired in favor of opensolaris [06:56:10] *** Gekz has joined #OpenSolaris [06:56:21] <e^ipi> no, i think that the differences between the two will putback sooner or later and then there will be no distinction [06:56:59] *** perlmongo has quit IRC [06:57:13] <ninjaslim> e^ipi: really but wouldn't that mean that they'd have to accept one package manager, either SVR4 or IPS [06:57:33] <e^ipi> yes, and that is what i mean between 'the differences between the two' [06:57:53] <e^ipi> IPS will putback, and then SXCE will effectively be indiana [06:58:55] <ninjaslim> i'm having difficulty understanding that sorry, IPS will putback what does that mean? [06:58:59] *** luna1 has joined #opensolaris [06:59:09] <e^ipi> putback == integration [06:59:18] <ninjaslim> ahh sorry [06:59:45] <ninjaslim> but that'd require that IPS be more polished and have more packages and such [07:00:00] <e^ipi> no, it would require that IPS be more polished and less buggy [07:00:03] <freetown> more packages? [07:00:04] <e^ipi> the number of packages is irrelevant [07:00:29] <ninjaslim> right that's true, more polished and less buggy [07:00:39] <freetown> ninjaslim, do you see people here dying for more packages? [07:00:41] <e^ipi> or more to the point, the package issue is a seperete one [07:01:38] <ninjaslim> right but that relies heavily on the community to provide packages more or less [07:01:48] <e^ipi> no it doesn't [07:02:23] <ninjaslim> i thought much of the packages in IPS were community built [07:02:27] <_mary_kate_> IPS has absolutely nothing at all to do with what packages are available [07:02:30] <e^ipi> no, none of them are [07:02:33] <_mary_kate_> you can build IPS packages; you can build SVR4 packages [07:02:34] <freetown> community? OH, you mean Blastwave [07:02:46] <_mary_kate_> all IPS does is change how packages *work*. it is a little easier to use third-party packages with IPS than SVR4 packages [07:02:58] <e^ipi> is it? [07:03:05] <_mary_kate_> i think it is. but only a little [07:03:32] <ninjaslim> i thought much of the packages in IPS were community builtSVR4 packages [07:03:34] <freetown> just more convenient really [07:03:55] <freetown> ninjaslim, you should right around here more [07:04:01] <_mary_kate_> ninjaslim: what do you mean by 'in IPS'? the packages in 2008.05 are the exact same packages are in SXCE. there are just less of them, because they didn't include legally-encumbered software [07:04:06] <e^ipi> ninjaslim: no, they are Sun controlled packages derived directly from the SXCE consolidations [07:04:18] <freetown> nothing in Indy was built by somebody outside Sun as far as i can tell [07:04:20] <ninjaslim> freetown: you mean *write* [07:04:27] <_mary_kate_> ninjaslim: there are third-party IPS repos like blastwave, but then blastwave does SVR4 packages too, so that isn't IPS-specific [07:04:39] <freetown> ninjaslim, no...stick...brain-fingers out of sync :( [07:04:47] *** luna1 has quit IRC [07:04:57] <e^ipi> freetown: not entirely true, in so far as a bunch of them were sponsored [07:05:13] <e^ipi> but all of them went through regular Sun processes, and all are in SXCE [07:05:30] <freetown> e^ipi, well, nvidia drivers don't quite count as 'community'...more like vendor [07:05:52] <e^ipi> right. sponsored by sun, run through Sun process, and available in SXCE [07:06:22] *** erast has joined #opensolaris [07:06:25] <e^ipi> and nvidia is just as much a part of the community as AMD, Intel, and the NSA [07:06:39] <freetown> so, saying that Indiana is a community is kinda like a sham when in reality it is all Sun. [07:06:41] <e^ipi> corporate entities can be members of open source communities [07:06:59] <ninjaslim> a concept Linux folks don't seem to get but that's ok [07:07:22] <e^ipi> freetown: as much as fedora is a sham because it's all RedHat at the helm, or opensuse and novell, or ubuntu and canonical, yes. [07:07:55] <freetown> ninjaslim, ha! so...why does Linux have 3ware drivers in the mainline kernel source tree? [07:07:56] *** gerard13 has joined #opensolaris [07:08:19] <ninjaslim> what is 3ware? [07:08:33] <_mary_kate_> ninjaslim: a low-end raid controller vendor [07:08:41] <_mary_kate_> they produce drivers for linux, freebsd and windows, but not solaris [07:08:45] <freetown> hahahha. Yeah, I know...no Solaris drivers for that card so you guys know nothing of it [07:09:35] <e^ipi> it's not in the purchasing running because it's not supported [07:09:42] <e^ipi> same as any other OS [07:09:49] <freetown> ninjaslim, a better replacement for Areca, another low end raid controller vendor [07:10:04] <e^ipi> linux doesn't support a bunch of hardware that windows does, so you don't buy it if you want to run linux [07:10:09] <ninjaslim> they're closed source drivers or what [07:10:17] <_mary_kate_> freetown: i'm not sure what 3ware has to do with IPS not being part of the community. did someone in the community write a 3ware driver that hasn't been integrated? [07:10:23] <freetown> ninjaslim, 3ware or Areca? [07:10:35] <ninjaslim> both for the purposes of this [07:10:38] <e^ipi> if they have done as _mary_kate_ describes it, let me know i'll get it railroaded through [07:11:08] <freetown> ninjaslim, 3ware has a driver in the mainline Linux kernel...Areca has yet to get theirs in [07:11:30] <ninjaslim> but are they proprietary drivers, what's the license they are released under [07:11:34] <e^ipi> i'm canadian so i've gotten pretty good at navigating beurocracy [07:11:34] <freetown> PL [07:11:36] <freetown> GPL [07:11:50] <e^ipi> so just as good as proprietary [07:11:52] <freetown> e^ipi, they need you in Germany then :) [07:12:04] <ninjaslim> well that's acceptable to them the Linux kernel devs and sorry to be ambiguous [07:12:22] <ninjaslim> but i was effectively referring to the GNU folks, they prolly won't be too happy about that [07:12:33] <ninjaslim> linux is the wrong word [07:14:38] <e^ipi> linux is usually the wrong whatever [07:14:39] <e^ipi> ;) [07:15:48] <ninjaslim> lol [07:16:06] <Gekz> e^ipi: Quebecois [07:16:16] <Gekz> you're neither Canadian nor French [07:16:18] <Gekz> :P [07:16:25] <freetown> does GNOME have a tool to manage desktop profiles that can be assigned to groups and if so, is it in Indy? [07:16:59] <freetown> Gekz, i bet he is glad to be neither :P [07:17:08] *** jklyekai has joined #opensolaris [07:17:17] <Gekz> freetown: haha. [07:18:55] <e^ipi> freetown: i'm canadian [07:18:58] <e^ipi> not french though [07:19:06] <Gekz> wait. [07:19:07] <Gekz> fuck [07:19:09] <Gekz> I thought you were asyd. [07:19:10] <e^ipi> i speak bad french [07:19:15] <e^ipi> Gekz: non. [07:19:15] * Gekz failed. [07:19:27] <freetown> e^ipi, the French would disavow you anyway I guess :D [07:19:31] <Gekz> asyd is probably proper french [07:19:49] <e^ipi> freetown: i'm not nearly enough of an asshole [07:20:06] <e^ipi> i also don't smoke, which disqualifies me right there [07:20:25] <freetown> e^ipi, ah...i meant it as the French won't treat anyone not from France as french [07:26:16] <gerard13> hello all, can anyone help me with this problem? http://pastealacon.com/1494 [07:26:22] <gerard13> Error 16: Inconsistent filesystem structure [07:36:54] *** alka has quit IRC [07:39:09] *** Auralis_ has joined #opensolaris [07:39:45] *** alka has joined #opensolaris [07:46:52] *** LordIllpalazo has joined #opensolaris [07:47:42] *** Gekz has quit IRC [07:51:08] *** div11 has joined #opensolaris [07:54:31] *** ninjaslim has quit IRC [07:54:36] *** _Auralis has quit IRC [07:59:41] *** yarihm has joined #opensolaris [08:03:37] *** tazle__ has joined #opensolaris [08:05:01] *** ky-san has left #opensolaris [08:15:48] *** erast has quit IRC [08:17:40] *** tazle_ has quit IRC [08:18:16] *** _mary_kate_ has quit IRC [08:20:43] <codestr0m> what's the name of that 4U box which has all the cpu and can hold 500G of ram? [08:20:46] *** klg has joined #opensolaris [08:20:55] *** Disorganized has quit IRC [08:21:03] *** _mary_kate_ has joined #opensolaris [08:21:04] <klg> hi! [08:21:18] *** Disorganized has joined #OpenSolaris [08:21:44] <klg> hi! i'm able to create a smb share through zfs, i wanted to create a samba pdc on opensolaris, any ideas, how can i do that [08:23:08] <fraggeln> klg: http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/samba-pdc.html [08:25:09] <klg> fraggeln: in opensolaris i guess, before referring this howto, there are some more steps to reach there [08:25:17] <klg> i don't even have a smb.conf [08:25:47] <klg> this are a bit tricky, solaris tutorials suggest the use of cifs which is a superset of samba [08:26:20] <klg> now i've referred some sites & blogs & was able to share the directories through the zfs [08:29:59] *** alka has quit IRC [08:31:06] *** linma` has quit IRC [08:31:24] *** RElling has joined #opensolaris [08:31:28] <CosmicDJ> klg: sharing a directory != PDC [08:31:44] *** linma` has joined #opensolaris [08:31:51] *** tsoome has quit IRC [08:32:22] <klg> CosmicDJ: i understand the concept [08:32:34] <CosmicDJ> klg: and you can't create a PDC with opensolaris' in-kernel CIFS [08:32:51] <CosmicDJ> klg: you'll have to use samba [08:32:53] <klg> I'm just asking that how can i create a PDC on opensolaris [08:33:06] <CosmicDJ> klg: read the samba docs :) [08:33:06] *** Triskelios has quit IRC [08:33:23] <klg> ok [08:34:46] <CosmicDJ> klg: the only opensolaris magic you'll need is svcadm enable samba/wins ... [08:35:03] <CosmicDJ> (after setting up a smb.conf in /etc/sfw/) [08:35:19] *** Gekz has joined #OpenSolaris [08:35:34] <klg> ok [08:35:58] <CosmicDJ> klg: btw, how many PDC users to you expect? [08:36:01] <CosmicDJ> s/to/do/ [08:36:11] <klg> CosmicDJ: 30-40 [08:36:17] <klg> users [08:36:27] <CosmicDJ> and there's no AD server in your network? [08:36:52] <klg> no [08:37:07] <CosmicDJ> centralized user management using LDAP? [08:37:27] <klg> CosmicDJ: setting up a new network [08:37:35] *** anilg has joined #opensolaris [08:37:56] <klg> CosmicDJ: so i'm planning of using all the opensource components [08:38:14] <CosmicDJ> klg: but that wont make yourlife easier ;) [08:38:25] <klg> CosmicDJ: like ldap, nfs, samba, ssh etc [08:38:39] *** jklyekai has quit IRC [08:38:41] <klg> CosmicDJ: i understand that, but that's the fun ;) i guess [08:39:05] <CosmicDJ> klg: openldap isn't fun ;) [08:39:32] <klg> CosmicDJ: basically i'm a linux guy, i've been doing all these stuff on linux for quite some time , now i'm thinking of implementing atleast all the servers on opensolaris [08:39:54] <gerard13> openldap is simpiest than DSEE [08:40:13] <_mary_kate_> i found DSEE much easier than openldap [08:40:16] <gerard13> DSEE requires more patches, and need reboot [08:40:24] <_mary_kate_> it definitely does not need a reboot [08:40:26] *** RElling1 has quit IRC [08:40:43] <gerard13> i can prove the contrary, _mary_kate_ (and hello!) [08:40:57] <CosmicDJ> klg: well if you're already into that stuff... [08:41:06] <gerard13> do you want the list of patches that need rebooting the server? [08:41:24] <CosmicDJ> server = opensolaris or server = dsee? [08:41:35] *** ibuclaw|sleep has quit IRC [08:41:36] <gerard13> server=solaris 10u4 [08:41:37] <_mary_kate_> are you talking about DSEE patches or OS patches? i stay current on OS patches anyway, so i've never had to add any to install DSEE [08:41:52] <_mary_kate_> if you're one of those people who installs then never ever updates, i guess you might have problems [08:42:03] <CosmicDJ> gerard13: u4 is quite old [08:42:06] <gerard13> when you download DSEE, the web page lists all the patches you need [08:42:49] <trochej> Coffee? [08:43:25] <klg> CosmicDJ: i tried solaris 10, belenix 0.7.1, opensolaris 2008 , before finalizing on opensolaris to use as a platform for deploying the various services that i need on the network [08:43:45] <gerard13> i don't understand your point of view, _mary_kate_, if i use solaris, i don't want to reboot the server every week [08:43:55] <hrist> heh [08:44:16] <gerard13> for example, patch 125378 needs a reboot [08:44:27] *** c00p has joined #opensolaris [08:45:20] <gerard13> i'm in the process to migrate nis services to ldap, and unfortunately, after losing 2 days, i installed openldap quickier [08:45:48] <CosmicDJ> gerard13: you're from Chile, Argentina, Cuba, Iraq, Syria or Mongolia, Morocco, Pakistan? [08:46:04] *** kim0 has joined #opensolaris [08:46:38] *** xRaich[o]2x has joined #opensolaris [08:47:40] <gerard13> CosmicDJ: what's the trouble with me? you doesn't like my questions? it is not necessary to reply [08:48:20] <CosmicDJ> gerard13: did you even read the patch readme? [08:50:02] <CosmicDJ> if you are not from one of those countries, then you don't need patch 125378... [08:50:57] <gerard13> http://pastealacon.com/1495 [08:51:11] <gerard13> here are others problems i encountered [08:51:28] <gerard13> i never found SUNWjdmk-runtime SUNWjdmk-sdk [08:52:01] <CosmicDJ> gerard13: sounds like you didn't install everything; or as I already said; u4 is too old [08:53:15] <klg> guys, i need help on IPS, if i search for pkg search -r samba , i get a huge list of options, now this becomes confusing as which one to install [08:53:17] <gerard13> ok, u4 is too old, so i have to use LU to upgrade to u5 or u6 [08:53:39] <gerard13> but LU needs often patches, and often reboot again before applying LU [08:54:04] <gerard13> http://www.sun.com/software/products/directory_srvr_ee/get_dsee_download.jsp [08:54:28] <gerard13> CosmicDJ: what do you do with this list of patches? simply ignore? [08:54:33] <xRaich[o]2x> klg: you just want to install samab? [08:54:36] <xRaich[o]2x> samba [08:55:20] <xRaich[o]2x> pkg install SUNWsmba [08:55:51] <CosmicDJ> gerard13: no I would read the patch readme's and decide if I really need them [08:58:02] <CosmicDJ> gerard13: but if you need to reboot anyway, just install them all... [08:59:08] <klg> my question in case of IPS in not specific to samba, it can be anything say squid, or apache for that sake [08:59:08] <klg> pkg search -r squid [08:59:08] <klg> pkg search -r apache [08:59:33] <klg> xRaich[o]2x: that's the point, how to decide which package to install [09:00:10] <klg> basename dir usr/sfw/lib/webmin/samba pkg:/SUNWwebmin at 1 dot 340-0.98 [09:00:10] <klg> basename dir usr/sfw/lib/webmin/samba pkg:/SUNWwebmin at 1 dot 340-0.90 [09:00:10] <klg> basename dir usr/sfw/lib/webmin/samba pkg:/SUNWwebmin at 1 dot 340-0.94 [09:00:10] <klg> description set samba pkg:/SUNWsmba at 3 dot 0.32-0.98 [09:00:10] <klg> description set samba pkg:/SUNWsmba at 3 dot 0.28.1-0.91 [09:00:12] <klg> description set samba pkg:/SUNWsmba at 3 dot 0.26.1-0.75 [09:00:21] <pumpkin_> o.O [09:00:32] <klg> this is stripped result of what i get from the samba search [09:01:55] <xRaich[o]2x> klg: pkg searches every package for the word you gave it. in this case it's samba. SUNWsmba is the package name here followed by version. [09:01:57] *** alka has joined #opensolaris [09:02:00] <klg> xRaich[o]2x: should i be looking for descript set or basename or something else, for deciding the package [09:02:22] <xRaich[o]2x> klg: and please don't spam i can see the results myself since i have a solaris machine here ;) [09:02:33] <klg> ok [09:03:28] <xRaich[o]2x> no just look for the packagename. it's the last column [09:04:36] <xRaich[o]2x> pkg:/SUNWsquid at 2 dot 6.17-0.99 <- this is the long version which contains version number and solaris build. you don't need to specify all of this. pkg will pick the right pacakge for you when you tell it install SUNWsquid [09:04:40] <klg> ok, got it, that's what i was asking, how to decipher what to use & what to leave ;) [09:05:00] *** Trident has quit IRC [09:05:08] <CosmicDJ> klg: your... brain :-p [09:05:11] *** Trident has joined #opensolaris [09:05:16] <xRaich[o]2x> you only use it if you want to install that package explicitly [09:06:05] <klg> i guess, little more work needed in the documentation & how to section of IPS [09:06:22] <xRaich[o]2x> klg: feel free to contribute ;) [09:06:34] <CosmicDJ> klg: IIRC you can use "pkg contents" to list, well, the content of a pkg [09:07:13] <klg> xRaich[o]2x: sure i will, so that no other newbie has to go through this again & again [09:07:18] <CosmicDJ> klg: and yes, the opensolaris team is aware that the current pkg naming sucks and they're working hard to improve things (maybe in 2008.11) [09:07:42] <klg> CosmicDJ: great, i'll be looking forward to it [09:08:02] <klg> CosmicDJ: till that time, whatever we have, i'll work with that [09:08:38] <xRaich[o]2x> klg: i've been a newbie to me it was clear from the start, but then again, others might be confused. so if you know a better way of explaining you post it on the IPS mailing list. if you have a good idea they might listen [09:08:56] *** nico is now known as Valise [09:09:09] <klg> xRaich[o]2x: ok [09:09:21] *** Valise is now known as nico [09:09:44] *** BBHoss has joined #opensolaris [09:09:44] <CosmicDJ> http://blogs.sun.com/sjie/entry/the_date_oct_29 hm what's a "revenue release" ? [09:09:59] <asyd> \_o< [09:10:02] <klg> xRaich[o]2x: i'm thinking basically i'll emphaize on the search section [09:10:03] <asyd> Gekz: ? ;p [09:10:03] <e^ipi> sustaining [09:10:18] <BBHoss> so, whats the big secret to getting network drivers? [09:10:22] <e^ipi> aka, supported release (S10) [09:10:29] *** MeP3aBeu has joined #opensolaris [09:10:39] <e^ipi> BBHoss: finding specificiations for the cards, and then writing them [09:10:58] <BBHoss> e^ipi: are you serious? [09:11:05] <e^ipi> ? [09:11:14] <e^ipi> you're asking about how to write new drivers, no? [09:11:23] <e^ipi> read the DDI, find specs, write [09:11:24] <BBHoss> if a driver isn't in the DVD, its not supported? [09:11:36] <e^ipi> murayama might have some [09:11:51] <e^ipi> the manufacturer also might have one [09:12:01] *** twisti has joined #opensolaris [09:12:30] <klg> BBHoss: regarding driver, i had this solaris 10 dvd which doesn't support my lan card, but on opensolaris it's supported, it uses the rge driver [09:12:39] <BBHoss> hmm [09:12:43] <twisti> Hi! [09:12:54] <BBHoss> freebsd has a driver [09:13:03] <e^ipi> which card? [09:13:13] <twisti> Is there somewhere a list or something which lists the versions of the software included in snv builds? [09:13:30] <BBHoss> hang on i'll have to boot it back up to get it, one is a via gigabit chipset [09:13:44] <e^ipi> that only narrows it down to a couple hundred cards... [09:13:53] *** phimic has joined #opensolaris [09:14:07] *** freetown has quit IRC [09:17:39] <CosmicDJ> twisti: yes [09:17:46] <BBHoss> well, the chip is labeled as a ZyXEL XZ1701, but i think its just a via, thats what opensolaris's driver manager says [09:18:07] <klg> in opensolaris admin guide, i've read about the OpenSolaris Student Pack DVD, any idea where can i get that [09:19:07] <twisti> CosmicDJ, :) And where? [09:19:26] <CosmicDJ> twisti: opensolaris.org [09:19:46] <e^ipi> BBHoss: does this card work on any other OS, and if so, what's the driver that you load to doit? [09:20:08] <BBHoss> e^ipi: hang on i'll have to check :) [09:20:18] <twisti> CosmicDJ, What exactly do you mean? That I should browse the spec files?? [09:21:34] <Gekz> asyd: :D [09:22:00] <BBHoss> e^ipi: on linux its via_velocity [09:22:02] *** twisti is now known as twisti_home [09:22:20] <BBHoss> its a VT6120/1/2 chip [09:23:41] <e^ipi> well, that's a pretty obscure chip [09:24:22] <e^ipi> via's site says they've got solaris drivers [09:24:26] <BBHoss> i have an SiS 190 chip too [09:24:36] <BBHoss> e^ipi: yeah i can't seem to find them on their site [09:24:47] <e^ipi> it's via, i'm not surprised [09:24:53] <CosmicDJ> twisti_home: opensolaris.org -> projects -> sfw [09:25:54] <BBHoss> e^ipi: what about the sis 190? [09:25:59] *** mikefut has joined #opensolaris [09:26:48] <e^ipi> *shrug* [09:26:58] <e^ipi> SFE works reasonably well for the 10/100 chips [09:27:05] <codestr0m> twisti_home: compiling sfw is similar to compiling ON [09:27:17] <codestr0m> only difference is it's a giant tarball you extract [09:28:00] <BBHoss> e^ipi: SFE? [09:28:11] <e^ipi> sis fast ethernet presumably [09:28:23] *** yongsun has quit IRC [09:28:34] <e^ipi> i had an sfe chip on an old motherboard of mine [09:28:43] *** yongsun has joined #opensolaris [09:28:49] <e^ipi> i replaced it with a $10 rge card for gigabit [09:29:08] <BBHoss> e^ipi: the ZyXEL came with a driver floppy, but i don't have a floppy drive :) [09:29:32] <e^ipi> usually they've only got windows drivers on 'em anyways [09:31:46] <BBHoss> e^ipi: ok, i think i've found one, the vle driver, is it in the opensolaris dvd by default? [09:31:57] <BBHoss> http://homepage2.nifty.com/mrym3/taiyodo/eng/ [09:31:59] <BBHoss> #16 [09:32:11] <e^ipi> no, none of murayama's drivers are on the DVD except sfe [09:33:19] <CosmicDJ> twisti_home: found it? [09:33:41] <BBHoss> hmm [09:34:07] <BBHoss> it mentions a binary driver, i wish i could find it [09:34:20] <e^ipi> via likely has it [09:34:31] <e^ipi> but, being via, it's a mystery [09:34:52] <BBHoss> heh [09:34:53] <e^ipi> they're actually worse than ATI, and that takes talent [09:34:58] <BBHoss> do they have an FTP site? [09:35:15] <e^ipi> ati at least shows you where to find their half-baked shitty drivers [09:35:21] <BBHoss> apparently these are pretty nice cards [09:35:27] *** dunc_ has quit IRC [09:36:05] *** perlmongo has joined #opensolaris [09:36:33] <CosmicDJ> noooo I think my firefox crashed :( [09:36:50] <CosmicDJ> s/crashed/deadlocked/ [09:37:21] <e^ipi> deadlock is actually a pretty well defined term [09:37:35] <CosmicDJ> huh it's back... [09:37:36] <e^ipi> you can lock up without deadlocking [09:37:46] *** PersonXXL has joined #opensolaris [09:38:52] <qiyong_> how to know what pkg a file belong to? [09:39:10] *** DTEIT has joined #opensolaris [09:41:00] <CosmicDJ> qiyong_: man pkgchk [09:41:37] <BBHoss> hmm i found a source linux driver [09:42:38] <DTEIT> morning [09:43:12] <BBHoss> damnit, their is even a fscking SCO driver [09:44:47] *** digifor has quit IRC [09:47:11] *** digifor has joined #opensolaris [09:47:36] <CosmicDJ> twisti_home: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/sfwnv/current_content [09:47:51] <gerard13> anybody know how to repair this problem? http://pastealacon.com/1494 [09:48:17] <e^ipi> yes, fix your boot archive [09:48:25] <e^ipi> details at google. [09:49:45] <gerard13> i did it with booting from milax zpool -f import rpool, and update_grub [09:49:57] <gerard13> and the problem is not solved [09:50:10] <gerard13> i'd prefer to not reinstall [09:50:45] <gerard13> update_grub is the same thing than reinstall grub with installgrub? [09:51:07] <gerard13> this problem occured after a shutdown of my laptop [09:51:42] <_mary_kate_> e^ipi: i'm not sure this is caused by an out of date boot arcive [09:51:47] <_mary_kate_> e^ipi: looks more like some filesystem issue [09:52:12] <gerard13> ok, but when i booted from cd, i did a zpool status -xv [09:52:21] <gerard13> and it seems ok [09:52:23] *** mikl has joined #opensolaris [09:52:47] <klg> gerard13: everything is ok, just the grub is messed up [09:52:51] *** hsp has joined #opensolaris [09:52:59] *** mikl has quit IRC [09:53:08] <klg> gerard13: stuff like this happens if ur system is shutdown abruptly [09:54:44] <gerard13> klg, it is a laptop, and yes, i have problem after using the powerbutton to shutdown the laptop, it took a very long time to shutdown [09:54:54] <klg> gerard13: try to replicate the stuff on a running system with the following process, just switch off ur test machine 2-3 times when running solaris, either u'll get the error u mentioned or ur entire grub would be lost, if u boot from the live cd u'll still find that entire data & filesystem is intact only the mbr is messed up [09:54:55] <gerard13> but it is possible to repair it? [09:55:12] <klg> yes [09:55:28] <klg> http://opensolaris.org/jive/message.jspa?messageID=288346 [09:56:34] <gerard13> ok, reinstalling grub with installgrub is the only thing i don't try yet [09:57:47] <klg> gerard13: yesterday, i reinstalled the system 2-3 times, did all these stunts & then i found this link of how to recover grub [09:59:51] <klg> gerard13: but before installing the grub again, try to import ur zfs fs & check whether all ur data in there or not, otherwise the simple solution would be to reinstall [10:00:33] <gerard13> klg, i did it, and all datas are present [10:01:11] <klg> good 4 u ;) [10:03:17] *** Tpenta has quit IRC [10:03:33] *** tsoome has joined #opensolaris [10:04:15] *** mikl has joined #opensolaris [10:05:12] *** c00p has quit IRC [10:05:16] *** c00p has joined #opensolaris [10:08:41] *** alka has quit IRC [10:08:42] *** tsoome has quit IRC [10:08:43] *** tsoome has joined #opensolaris [10:10:19] *** takahide has joined #opensolaris [10:11:12] *** Odin- has joined #opensolaris [10:13:48] *** houst0n-_ has joined #opensolaris [10:15:07] *** tsoome1 has joined #opensolaris [10:15:08] *** tsoome has quit IRC [10:16:24] *** Odin- has quit IRC [10:16:49] <klg> can anybody share their experience of installing mplayer or vlc on opensolaris through IPS & their performance [10:17:14] <xRaich[o]2x> klg: do you know "life with solaris"? [10:17:23] <sickness> yeah, added mplayer from another repository [10:17:41] <xRaich[o]2x> works great here [10:18:29] <klg> xRaich[o]2x: i'm trying to gather all the components, so that i don't have to look at alternative OS for other services :) [10:18:40] <klg> sickness: blastwave , right [10:18:48] <sickness> klg: nope, lifewithsolaris [10:18:50] <sickness> go there: [10:18:52] <sickness> http://lifewithsolaris.jp/modules/packages/index.php?content_id=1 [10:18:58] <klg> ok [10:19:04] <sickness> then tese 3 commands: [10:19:06] <sickness> pkg set-authority -O http://pkg.lifewithsolaris.jp:10000/ lifeiwthsolaris.jp [10:19:12] <sickness> pkg refresh --full [10:19:14] <_mary_kate_> iwth? [10:19:22] <sickness> pkg install LWSmplayer [10:19:28] <klg> i was aware of blastwave, sunfreeware & opensolaris repos [10:19:43] <klg> sickness: thanks for the info [10:20:00] <sickness> well you asked specifically about vlc and opensolaris and ips, this repository is specifically about those :) [10:20:04] <sickness> yw :) [10:20:54] <xRaich[o]2x> _mary_kate_: yes they have a typo on their page :P [10:21:35] <sickness> well I copy/pasted exactly that command and it worked anyway... [10:22:41] <xRaich[o]2x> it's just the name of the authority anyway. you could call it hamsandwich and it would work. ^^ [10:22:49] *** Odin- has joined #opensolaris [10:25:45] <qiyong_> system SUNWzfskr ZFS Kernel (Root) [10:25:45] <qiyong_> system SUNWzfsr ZFS (Root) [10:25:45] <qiyong_> system SUNWzfsu ZFS (Usr) [10:25:56] *** TheK has joined #opensolaris [10:25:59] <TheK> hello [10:26:12] <qiyong_> look, the three, what's the differnece? [10:26:12] <TheK> Anyone using gdb successfully with OpenSolaris? [10:26:33] <_mary_kate_> qiyong_: one has the kernel parts, one has the root parts, and one has the /usr parts [10:26:35] <evocallaghan1> Whats happening people ? [10:26:52] <qiyong_> _mary_kate_: what is a root part? [10:26:53] <evocallaghan1> TheK:Yes.. snv version ? [10:27:01] <_mary_kate_> the files that go in the root filesystem [10:27:09] <TheK> evocallaghan1: svn99 [10:27:15] <qiyong_> _mary_kate_: i see [10:27:37] <qiyong_> _mary_kate_: usually, root and usr part both should be present, right? [10:27:43] <TheK> evocallaghan1: I'm getting various errors usually it has to do with threads. Right now it is an assert which breaks the application. [10:28:06] <evocallaghan1> gcc/gdb miss match ? [10:28:21] <TheK> evocallaghan1: ok.. maybe. How do i find out? [10:28:41] <TheK> gcc (GCC) 3.4.3 (csl-sol210-3_4-20050802) [10:28:45] <evocallaghan1> Did you complie with a diff gcc ? [10:28:48] <TheK> GNU gdb 6.3.50_2004-11-23-cvs [10:28:56] <qiyong_> is opensolaris kernel build by gcc now? [10:29:03] <evocallaghan1> Can be .. [10:29:07] <gerard13> klg? [10:29:19] <gerard13> it doesn't work! [10:29:20] <evocallaghan1> TheK:Why not try the ss12 tool chain ? [10:29:42] <TheK> evocallaghan1: I'm trying to be a teamplayer with the netbeans gang. ;) [10:30:23] <TheK> evocallaghan1: netbeans only work with gcc/gdb. [10:30:39] <TheK> Beta might work but it is much work :) [10:31:05] <CosmicDJ> evocallaghan1: hello evo; btw I tried your curses sample program on Solaris10 today and I got some output on the screen [10:31:21] <CosmicDJ> evocallaghan1: are you using some obscure $TERM that's not supported? [10:31:51] *** houst0n- has quit IRC [10:31:59] <TheK> evocallaghan1: Since the recent innobase code doesn't compile cleanly on GNU/Opensolaris setup I've actaully used the hybrid Sunstudio compiler + gmake + dbx. [10:32:24] <TheK> avocallaghan1: But I really want gdb to work. I'm more familliar with this tool than dbx. [10:34:18] <trochej> Coffee [10:37:45] <xRaich[o]2x> trochej: yes please [10:38:29] <trochej> Oh, good [10:38:49] <trochej> I was affraid all of you threw me to killfile [10:40:17] <xRaich[o]2x> huh? [10:40:32] [10:42:11] <xRaich[o]2x> sorry [10:43:35] <CosmicDJ> nice password, but a little to too short IMHP :p [10:43:42] *** Odin- has quit IRC [10:43:52] <_mary_kate_> CosmicDJ: well, UTF-8, so 8 bytes [10:44:28] <xRaich[o]2x> CosmicDJ: it's not a password it's me cleaning my shiftkey ;) [10:44:33] *** tsoome1 has quit IRC [10:44:49] <CosmicDJ> xRaich[o]2x: ah that's why everything was lower-case :p [10:45:02] *** tsoome has joined #opensolaris [10:45:12] <xRaich[o]2x> sure. since i removed the key ;) [10:45:16] <sickness> lowercase++ [10:45:18] <sickness> ;P [10:45:39] <xRaich[o]2x> take a look at the left shift on the keyboard and at my "password" :P [10:46:05] <xRaich[o]2x> CosmicDJ: you have a german keyboard don't you? [10:46:16] <xRaich[o]2x> sorry right shift ^^ [10:46:17] <CosmicDJ> right in front of me [10:47:10] [10:47:23] <xRaich[o]2x> harhar. [10:47:42] <xRaich[o]2x> btw. care to join #opensolaris-de? [10:47:43] <CosmicDJ> with a lot of fance keys on the left side of the keyboard I'm always pressing instead of the crtl key... [10:47:52] *** Fullmoon has joined #opensolaris [10:48:17] <sickness> yeah, windowskey-- [10:48:31] <sickness> useless and misleading, who invented it should be damned forever and burn in hell. [10:48:48] <xRaich[o]2x> ack ^^ [10:48:54] *** yippi has joined #opensolaris [10:48:55] <evocallaghan1> TheK:Netbeans *does* work with ss12 toolchain, see "settings" [10:49:13] <evocallaghan1> CosmicDJ:I am using ksh93 .. [10:49:22] <evocallaghan1> and xterm ?? [10:49:41] <evocallaghan1> Don't know why ! [10:50:02] <CosmicDJ> sickness: uhm... no not the windoze key -> http://www.flickr.com/photos/joeclark/2193465934/ [10:50:42] <CosmicDJ> evocallaghan1: you get absolutly nothing we you run your curses sample prog? [10:50:51] <evocallaghan1> If you press the blank button, it will install vista and your box will never boot again [10:51:04] <evocallaghan1> Yea, nothing [10:51:14] <TheK> evovallaghan1: Are you sure you're not talking about 6.5beta ? [10:51:24] <TheK> evovallaghan1: Where its this 'setting' ? [10:51:40] <sickness> CosmicDJ: well at least in those the control key was bigger and in a more comfortable position for the finger... [10:52:15] <evocallaghan1> hmm, this time is says: "[1] + Stopped(SIGTTOU) ./a.out" [10:52:26] *** tsoome has quit IRC [10:52:27] <evocallaghan1> TheK:Yes 6.5 [10:52:32] <evocallaghan1> under "plugins" [10:52:46] <CosmicDJ> evocallaghan1: did you change anything with stty? [10:52:48] <evocallaghan1> Unix kb rock [10:52:50] *** Okona has quit IRC [10:52:54] <evocallaghan1> I want a laptop with one [10:53:00] <evocallaghan1> hmm [10:53:01] <TheK> evocallaghan1: I won't use 6.5beta for another few months until my wounds heal ;) It kind of dies for me randomly. [10:53:06] *** sophokles has joined #opensolaris [10:53:21] <evocallaghan1> Why not try the latest RC.. [10:53:24] <evocallaghan1> Works fine here [10:53:50] <TheK> evocallaghan1: ok.. isn't that the same I get when I do 'check-for-updates' ? [10:54:42] <CosmicDJ> evocallaghan1: like setting "tostop"? [10:54:55] <evocallaghan1> TheK:Don't do that, just download the new binary [10:55:14] <evocallaghan1> CosmicDJ:Ahh, 1sec, too much going on, fingers too slow [10:55:27] <CosmicDJ> evocallaghan1: use more than 2 :-p [10:56:31] <evocallaghan1> lol [10:56:59] <evocallaghan1> stty susp '^z' [10:57:05] <evocallaghan1> Would that break anything then ? [10:57:52] <CosmicDJ> evocallaghan1: hm no idea, I thought sending signals was mostly a shell thing... [10:58:37] <CosmicDJ> evocallaghan1: anyway, try it w/o this setting nevertheless [11:01:08] <TheK> evocallaghan1: ok, downloading now. Thanks. [11:01:13] <evocallaghan1> np [11:01:21] <evocallaghan1> CosmicDJ:No, still not working [11:01:33] <evocallaghan1> CosmicDJ:How did you build ? [11:02:17] <TheK> evocallaghan1: I saw some bug entry recently where there was a sugestion fixing solaris ld so it could accept gnu ld parameters and thus avoid frustrating linking confusion. Do you know the status of this? [11:02:36] <evocallaghan1> no [11:02:36] *** mikl_ has joined #opensolaris [11:04:29] <CosmicDJ> evocallaghan1: cc -O curses.c -lm -lcurses [11:04:52] *** ninjaslim has joined #opensolaris [11:04:54] <evocallaghan1> What was the paste I sent you again? [11:05:29] <CosmicDJ> evocallaghan1: http://rafb.net/p/suSMeA84.html [11:06:55] *** sah-work has joined #opensolaris [11:07:49] <evocallaghan1> yep, same deal [11:08:51] <evocallaghan1> http://rafb.net/p/fp1p0Z25.html [11:08:56] <evocallaghan1> Any help ? [11:09:02] <klg> sickness: i installed mplayer from the lifewithsolaris repo, but when i do fullscreen, it still shows the video in the small format, have u encountered this [11:09:14] <asyd> tried xv vo driver? [11:09:15] *** sophokles1 has quit IRC [11:09:25] <sickness> I still have to try, have you tried an mplayer -vo help ? [11:09:44] <sickness> try different vo drivers like asyd said [11:10:04] *** not-me-guv has quit IRC [11:10:09] <codestr0m> anyone know where http://trisk.acm.jhu.edu/SFE/ may have moved to. it's down and I'd like to update my bt client [11:10:43] *** carl- has joined #opensolaris [11:11:06] <klg> ok [11:12:16] <evocallaghan1> CosmicDJ:http://rafb.net/p/HphIRf39.html [11:13:03] <evocallaghan1> CosmicDJ:Can I see your truss output as well please ? [11:15:26] *** sah-work has quit IRC [11:20:05] *** mikl has quit IRC [11:23:00] *** h3sp4wn has quit IRC [11:23:46] *** h3sp4wn has joined #opensolaris [11:25:13] <_mary_kate_> does anyone use an HP DL160 or similar with solaris? wondering if the SAS controller is supported [11:26:32] <evocallaghan1> See HP website for there own little driver that is a pain in the ass last time I tried [11:26:41] <evocallaghan1> Your need to do a ITU [11:26:55] <evocallaghan1> else, check the HCL [11:26:55] <_mary_kate_> is that true for the standard SAS, as well as the smartarray? [11:27:21] <evocallaghan1> I only tried the stupidarray [11:27:27] <evocallaghan1> (old model) [11:27:41] <evocallaghan1> DL360 I think it was [11:28:18] *** xtrondo has joined #opensolaris [11:28:19] <evocallaghan1> Total junk, next time I see one I will but it in the bin and say "Its broken, you need this .. hardware" [11:28:23] <_mary_kate_> yeah, i don't buy crappy raid controllers. i'm hoping the plain SAS card is LSI or something [11:28:35] <evocallaghan1> Note sure [11:28:47] <evocallaghan1> Check HCL or HP site(if you can find anything there) [11:29:05] *** microchip_ has joined #opensolaris [11:29:18] *** anilg has quit IRC [11:29:21] *** FastJack has joined #opensolaris [11:29:52] *** anilg has joined #opensolaris [11:31:13] <CosmicDJ> evocallaghan1: http://pastebin.com/m71d7222c [11:31:31] <qiyong_> is opensolaris kernel build by gcc now? [11:31:41] <Gekz> lol I doubt it [11:31:59] <CosmicDJ> IIRC they build everything with gcc [11:32:03] <qiyong_> how to install software in SXCE? [11:32:22] <evocallaghan1> man pkgadd [11:32:26] <CosmicDJ> qiyong_: man pkgadd ; google blastwave / sunfreeeware [11:32:39] <evocallaghan1> CosmicDJ:Hmm, looks like mine is blowing up ay [11:32:53] <evocallaghan1> http://rafb.net/p/fp1p0Z25.html [11:33:37] <qiyong_> how to install the man? evocallaghan1 CosmicDJ [11:34:16] <evocallaghan1> Any ways... [11:35:23] <qiyong_> CosmicDJ: is blastwave/ sunfreeware GUI or advanced tools based on pkgadd? [11:36:13] *** luc^ has joined #opensolaris [11:36:37] <evocallaghan1> CosmicDJ:I don't get this, why it blows up after the first call to write() do you ? [11:36:38] <CosmicDJ> qiyong_: it's all CLI; blastwave is using a helper program named pkg-get [11:37:28] *** jgracin has joined #opensolaris [11:37:32] <evocallaghan1> qiyong_:Maybe join the #opensolaris200811 chat room and install that distro, maybe more helpful for your Linux background ?? [11:38:24] <qiyong_> evocallaghan1: why you say i have a linux backgd? [11:38:44] <evocallaghan1> Sounds like it [11:39:22] <qiyong_> for e.g.? evocallaghan1 [11:39:37] <qiyong_> i wonder how can tell one is from linux bg [11:39:40] <qiyong_> interesting [11:39:54] * evocallaghan1 guesses Fedora [11:39:57] <CosmicDJ> evocallaghan1: no idea; did you check your stty settings? [11:40:20] <evocallaghan1> CosmicDJ:Yes, I did a basic ksh93 with no rc file [11:40:31] <CosmicDJ> evocallaghan1: pastebin your stty output pls [11:40:39] <evocallaghan1> CosmicDJ:Can you try it in gnome-terminal [11:40:48] <CosmicDJ> evocallaghan1: I did this in gnome-terminal [11:41:31] <evocallaghan1> http://rafb.net/p/FJaF6819.html [11:41:52] <qiyong_> evocallaghan1: no, i don't use fedora [11:42:01] <evocallaghan1> ok debian [11:42:08] <qiyong_> heh [11:42:15] <CosmicDJ> *cough* windows :p [11:42:20] <qiyong_> lol [11:42:32] <evocallaghan1> Is that another linux distro ? [11:42:34] <qiyong_> you guys just making blind guess [11:42:52] * evocallaghan1 bumps into -Wall [11:43:03] *** evocallaghan1 is now known as evocallaghan [11:44:03] *** yongsun has quit IRC [11:45:55] *** LordIllpalazoThe has joined #opensolaris [11:46:32] *** LordIllpalazo has quit IRC [11:47:11] *** yippi has quit IRC [11:47:12] *** qiyong_ is now known as qiyong [11:49:54] <evocallaghan> Yea, totally stuck on this on CosmicDJ ? Not a clue :p [11:50:05] <kim0> Hi .. can anyone help with the difference between "iscsiadm list target" vs "iscsitadm list target" ? [11:50:22] *** BBHoss_alt has joined #opensolaris [11:50:36] <CosmicDJ> evocallaghan1: pastebin your stty output pls [11:50:58] *** cypromis has joined #opensolaris [11:51:04] <BBHoss_alt> hi, can anyone tell me a quick and easy way to find all the current harddrives in my system? i looked in /dev/rdsk, but there are about 50 in there [11:51:33] <fraggeln> BBHoss_alt: format? [11:52:00] *** hrist has quit IRC [11:52:04] <codestr0m> BBHoss_alt: have you tried cfgsdm ? [11:52:07] <BBHoss_alt> fraggeln: thanks, that looks like it will worj [11:52:10] <codestr0m> cfgadm* [11:52:14] *** anilg has quit IRC [11:52:31] <BBHoss_alt> lemme ask this, if i have a 120GB drive, can i create a 120GB partition on my 750GB and mirror it? [11:52:49] *** hrist has joined #opensolaris [11:53:30] <fraggeln> BBHoss_alt: yes you can [11:53:40] <BBHoss_alt> cool [11:53:51] <fraggeln> BBHoss_alt: you dont mirror disks, you mirror slizes :) [11:54:05] <BBHoss_alt> right [11:54:51] <fraggeln> BBHoss_alt: http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/816-4520 [11:55:07] <CosmicDJ> fraggeln: with zfs you can mirror disks :p [11:55:15] <BBHoss_alt> fraggeln: thanks [11:55:41] <fraggeln> CosmicDJ: ofc you can. [11:55:52] <fraggeln> CosmicDJ: but not everyone uses zfs for / [11:56:21] *** vmlemon_ has joined #opensolaris [11:57:19] <BBHoss_alt> how do i create a 120GB slice on my 750GB? [11:57:41] <fraggeln> BBHoss_alt: format [11:58:34] <CosmicDJ> fdisk it first of you're on x86 + the disk is empty [11:59:06] <BBHoss_alt> so i create a 120GB fdisk partition, or do i use format to create a slice? [11:59:08] <fraggeln> doesnt everyone use sparc? :D [11:59:31] <fraggeln> BBHoss_alt: use fdisk to create a partition of the whole disk. [11:59:38] <fraggeln> and use format to create slices. [11:59:50] <_mary_kate_> only cover the whole disk if you want to use the whole disk with solaris [11:59:51] <BBHoss_alt> haha [11:59:52] *** gerard131 has joined #opensolaris [11:59:56] <CosmicDJ> BBHoss_alt: if you only want to use 120G for solaris (and use the rest for another OS for example), just create a 120G fdisk "partition" [12:00:19] <BBHoss_alt> fraggeln: when i do fdisk c5d0, it says cannot stat device [12:01:57] <CosmicDJ> interessting [12:02:43] <CosmicDJ> well, no it's not; read the manpage [12:02:50] <BBHoss_alt> format shows http://pastie.org/301280 [12:04:38] <BBHoss_alt> CosmicDJ: so I don't use fdisk? [12:04:51] <CosmicDJ> BBHoss_alt: no you didn't read the manpage [12:05:15] <BBHoss_alt> i just did, what part exactly are you talking about? [12:05:30] <BBHoss_alt> i tried the /dev/rdsk/c5d0*whatever [12:05:33] <BBHoss_alt> same thing [12:06:22] <BBHoss_alt> hmm, p0 worked that time, maybe i used s0 [12:06:32] <CosmicDJ> BBHoss_alt: hm, you pasted a "<drive type unknown>" [12:06:51] <CosmicDJ> did you hotplug that disk? [12:06:58] <BBHoss_alt> no [12:07:09] <BBHoss_alt> think maybe its dying? [12:07:56] <BBHoss_alt> SMART didnt say anything [12:08:27] <BBHoss_alt> ok its right now, its because it wasnt fdisk'ed with solaris2 type [12:08:37] *** Okona has joined #opensolaris [12:09:00] *** gerard13 has quit IRC [12:09:01] <klg> which torrent client is suggested for opensolaris [12:09:50] *** vmlemon_ has quit IRC [12:10:12] <qiyong> where to set the hostname [12:10:16] <CosmicDJ> klg: you should rather ask which one(s) is/are available :) [12:10:32] *** vmlemon_ has joined #opensolaris [12:11:58] <CosmicDJ> qiyong: I think google should answer that one quickly [12:12:14] <qiyong> CosmicDJ: or rather man hostname [12:13:28] <CosmicDJ> qiyong: hostname(1) alone won't persists a reboot... [12:16:04] <BBHoss_alt> qiyong: i think you make a file called /etc/hostname.interfaceN where interface is the name of your interface driver, and N is the number of it [12:16:10] <BBHoss_alt> not sure though [12:17:00] *** derchris has quit IRC [12:17:03] *** derchris has joined #opensolaris [12:17:08] <qiyong> BBHoss_alt: # cat /etc/hostname.iprb0 [12:17:19] <qiyong> BBHoss_alt: it's blank. what is the iprb0 interface/ [12:17:34] <BBHoss_alt> qiyong: dunno, i made mine [12:18:11] <qiyong> BBHoss_alt: the file already exists, i just need to fill it [12:18:52] <BBHoss_alt> qiyong: yeah i think thats how it works, iprb is the interface shown by ifconfig -a? [12:19:52] <qiyong> BBHoss_alt: yes, exactly, it's an NIC, odd, what if one have two NICs [12:20:18] <CosmicDJ> nodename [12:21:04] <BBHoss> qiyong: if you have two, you'll have iprb1 for the second [12:21:43] <qiyong> BBHoss so different users may get different hostname? [12:21:50] <qiyong> different connections [12:22:02] <BBHoss> qiyong: what does users have to do with it? [12:22:26] *** BBHoss_alt has quit IRC [12:23:22] <qiyong> BBHoss user A connects to the system through NIC iprb0, user B by iprb1 [12:23:41] <BBHoss> qiyong: connects through what, like ssh? [12:23:46] <qiyong> BBHoss user A hostname get /etc/hostname.iprb0 [12:23:50] <qiyong> BBHoss: yes [12:23:57] <BBHoss> users don't "get" hostnames [12:24:14] <qiyong> the startup scripts set it [12:24:15] <qiyong> i see [12:24:18] <CosmicDJ> qiyong: /etc/hostname.* is nowhere published, it's completely local on your little box [12:24:41] <CosmicDJ> qiyong: you can have hostname boxABC and your dns-name could be office123 [12:25:04] <qiyong> CosmicDJ: yeah, i just wonder why /etc/hostname.NIC [12:26:07] <CosmicDJ> qiyong: because you cannot just enter hostname's in there; the file content is passed to ifconfig; so you could enter an IP in there for example... [12:27:30] *** ninjaslim has quit IRC [12:27:44] <CosmicDJ> qiyong: and btw, if there's just a hostname in /etc/hostname.if ; AFAIK the onfig -a? [12:28:03] <CosmicDJ> qiyong: and btw, if there's just a hostname in /etc/hostname.if ; AFAIK the corresponding IP is sucked out of /etc/hosts [12:28:25] * CosmicDJ mumbles damn copy'n'paste... [12:28:49] <qiyong> CosmicDJ: i don't quite catch you [12:30:06] <qiyong> CosmicDJ: give an example? [12:30:53] <CosmicDJ> qiyong: /etc/hostname.iprb0 -> myhost; /etc/hosts -> 10.0.0.5 myhost [12:31:11] <qiyong> then? [12:31:23] <CosmicDJ> iprb0 will get the IP 10.0.0.5 [12:31:52] <qiyong> so solaris configures its NIC ip using hostname.if and hosts? [12:33:04] <CosmicDJ> qiyong: you can also put "192.168.10.5" in /etc/hostname.iprb1 ; then you don't need an entry in /etc/hosts [12:33:57] <qiyong> what if there's two files: hostname.iprb0 and hostname.iprb1 [12:34:02] <qiyong> CosmicDJ: [12:34:22] <CosmicDJ> qiyong: then nodename comes into play :) [12:34:35] <fraggeln> dladm ftw :) [12:35:13] *** calmeida_ has joined #opensolaris [12:35:16] <qiyong> CosmicDJ: where is nodename used? [12:35:24] *** LordIllpalazoThe has quit IRC [12:35:27] <qiyong> there's onely one single box [12:35:28] <qiyong> CosmicDJ: [12:35:46] <CosmicDJ> qiyong: man nodename ; grep nodename /lib/svc/method/* [12:38:47] *** hsp has quit IRC [12:40:37] *** xtrondo has quit IRC [12:41:11] *** nasser has joined #opensolaris [12:42:23] <nasser> I just finish installing OpenSolaris ... but I get: "X-server can not be started in Display: 0" [12:42:46] *** Kitty has quit IRC [12:42:50] *** Kitty has joined #opensolaris [12:45:29] *** LordIllpalazo has joined #opensolaris [12:53:05] *** krdoor has joined #opensolaris [12:54:02] *** stux|away is now known as stux|work [12:56:17] <phimic> hi all [12:56:28] <phimic> i have a question to a thread on http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=72056&tstart=60 [12:57:14] [12:59:10] <sickness> maybe the nvidia driver that's by default in Xorg doesn't have acceleration [12:59:32] <sickness> you should try nvidia distributed driver, but I don't know if that has geforce4 acceleration too... [12:59:56] <phimic> sickness: compiz works with ubuntu 8.04 [13:00:21] <phimic> sickness: is there an howto to setup nvidia on opensolaris? [13:00:33] <qiyong> CosmicDJ: what is this dir for? /lib/svc/method/ [13:00:43] <qiyong> CosmicDJ: svc == service ? [13:02:18] *** BBHoss has quit IRC [13:02:18] <CosmicDJ> phimic: because nvidia said so :( -> http://us.download.nvidia.com/solaris/177.80/README/appendix-c.html [13:03:04] <CosmicDJ> qiyong: these scripts are used by the service management facility (smf) [13:03:34] *** Odin- has joined #opensolaris [13:05:18] <phimic> thank you CosmicDJ [13:06:59] *** gerard13 has joined #opensolaris [13:10:24] <qiyong> is the kernel source code shipped with SXCE? [13:10:36] *** BBHoss has joined #opensolaris [13:11:33] <BBHoss> how can i add a mirror to a pool that already exists (my root pool)? [13:11:46] <sickness> phimic: try belenix, compiz should work out of the box, it's a livecd so you don't risk anything trying it [13:12:14] <BBHoss> without losing my data of course [13:12:44] <phimic> sickness: tried belenix too but 3d accel seems not to work too [13:13:33] *** Odin- has quit IRC [13:14:49] *** gerard131 has quit IRC [13:14:53] <nasser> there are no radeonhd driver on solaris ?? [13:15:24] <CosmicDJ> BBHoss: mkfile 500m zfs.1 zfs.2 ; zpool create tank $PWD/zfs.1 ; zpool attach tank $PWD/zfs.1 $PWD/zfs.2 ; zpool status -> tank\nmirror\n... [13:15:49] <Stric> BBHoss: zpool attach rpool olddisk newdisk and you might need to fix grub too, there's docs somewhere on the internet.. [13:16:00] <BBHoss> CosmicDJ: i accidentally added instead of attached, is there any way to get it out of there? [13:16:22] <CosmicDJ> BBHoss: sure, back everything up und start from scratch [13:16:27] <BBHoss> fuck [13:16:40] <Stric> it's being worked on, but it's not done yet [13:17:07] <BBHoss> so what do i have now, raid0? [13:17:20] <BBHoss> or just a storage pool with two disks? [13:17:49] <Stric> something inbetween [13:18:01] <BBHoss> Stric: like what? [13:18:13] <Stric> it's not regular raid0, but similar [13:18:31] <BBHoss> ok so if i have two 120GB slices, it should be around 240GB pool? [13:18:41] <Stric> zpool list [13:18:54] <BBHoss> yep i see that now [13:18:57] *** zegenvs has quit IRC [13:19:25] <BBHoss> damn, now i'm gonna have to recompile the network drivers again :( [13:19:37] <CosmicDJ> BBHoss: no selfhealing [13:19:44] <BBHoss> is there something better to use than 2008.05 [13:19:48] <BBHoss> CosmicDJ: do what? [13:19:59] <fraggeln> BBHoss: yea sxce :) [13:20:00] <CosmicDJ> a great I think I just killed solaris10 with my little zfs experiment [13:20:03] <CosmicDJ> bbl [13:20:08] <BBHoss> hahaha [13:20:41] <BBHoss> fraggeln: is that the bleeding edge version? [13:21:04] <fraggeln> BBHoss: well, not realy, but i like it more then 2008.05 :) [13:21:21] <BBHoss> Solaris Express Community Edition? [13:21:35] <fraggeln> BBHoss: yea [13:21:46] <BBHoss> ok, well i might check it out if i feel like reinstalling [13:22:05] <BBHoss> how do i install ruby and rubygems on sol? [13:22:09] <TheK> fraggeln: I seriously doubt saying sxce is 'better than 2008.05' is a good thing to do. Where is the 'home page' for sxce ? Who is accountable for that dist? Where will that dist be in two years? [13:22:28] <BBHoss> shit, another can of worms [13:22:35] *** LordIllpalazoThe has joined #opensolaris [13:23:30] <BBHoss> rather, setup pkgadd to install from a remote repo hopefully [13:23:37] <fraggeln> TheK: 13:22:13 < fraggeln> BBHoss: well, not realy, but i like it more then 2008.05 :) <-- personal reflection. [13:24:04] <fraggeln> TheK: im guessing that dist will be solaris11 in 2 years ;) [13:24:30] <evocallaghan> http://lolcats.com/images/u/08/23/lolcatsdotcomcm90ebvhwphtzqvf.jpg [13:24:54] <Gekz> not a good lolcat [13:24:56] <Gekz> you fail evocallaghan [13:25:56] <TheK> fraggeln: Solaris11 is dead. Long live OpenSolaris the market aware dist. :-P *flaim bait* [13:26:03] <TheK> Flame bait of hell even [13:26:41] <fraggeln> http://static.fraggelberget.nu/PICT1226.JPG <-- CATalyst :D [13:26:47] <qiyong> is there a meta pkg, which can install the whole X system? [13:26:58] * fraggeln pats TheK. [13:27:00] <TheK> fraggeln: lol [13:27:01] <fraggeln> there there... :) [13:27:10] <TheK> :) [13:27:27] <fraggeln> she realy likes my switch :( [13:27:38] <TheK> warm and cozy [13:27:42] <fraggeln> one fan is dead dueto massive amount of cat-hair :( [13:28:54] <evocallaghan> fraggeln: :p [13:29:31] <qiyong> where should gnu ls be installed in the system? [13:30:21] <xRaich[o]2x> /usr/gnu/bin/ls [13:31:46] <BBHoss> how do i run a JNLP file? [13:32:56] <qiyong> xRaich[o]2x: thanks [13:33:37] *** mikl_ is now known as mikl [13:33:45] <xRaich[o]2x> qiyong: keep in mind that gnu ls cannot handle nfsv4 acls which are used by zfs [13:33:49] <xRaich[o]2x> gotta run [13:33:52] *** xRaich[o]2x has left #opensolaris [13:34:43] <qiyong> how to install the kernel source code? [13:34:49] *** LordIllpalazo has quit IRC [13:36:57] *** SYS64738 has joined #opensolaris [13:37:21] <TheK> evocallaghan1: Ok.. running netbeans 6.5RC1. I have no idea what the idea is, but most projects I know of will not use dmake out of the box. The default debugger is still gdb and that still doesnt work. [13:37:35] *** prepnotek has joined #opensolaris [13:37:47] <TheK> changing to dbx renders the error "file not found: error=2" Changing run directory doesn't help. [13:39:59] *** kohju_ has joined #opensolaris [13:40:06] *** teo` has joined #opensolaris [13:41:58] <TheK> BBHoss: use jawaws [13:42:28] <TheK> JNPL rocks.. especially with jogl extension.. [13:42:55] <TheK> .oO( ok.. "extension" is the wrong word. ) [13:43:19] *** vmlemon_ has quit IRC [13:43:22] <TheK> javaws even.. [13:43:24] *** vmlemon_ has joined #opensolaris [13:43:32] *** comay has quit IRC [13:44:29] *** gerard131 has joined #opensolaris [13:46:41] *** takahide has quit IRC [13:47:44] <krdoor> Hello, can someone tell me where I can download the autoinstall.iso for opensolaris 2008.11 [13:47:56] <krdoor> As is decribed here: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/caiman/auto_install/AI_install_server_setup.html#setup_1108 [13:50:47] *** gerard132 has joined #opensolaris [13:51:28] *** gerard132 has quit IRC [13:52:37] <evocallaghan> TheK:Its pritty simple to setup [13:52:41] <evocallaghan> Docs have more info [13:52:47] <qiyong> hi guys; should i download the source code by pkg or download separately? [13:52:51] <evocallaghan> Just change the tool chain [13:52:53] <qiyong> should I install ... [13:53:02] <qiyong> should i install the source code by pkg or download separately? [13:53:24] <nasser> how I can install radeonhd driver on solaris ? [13:53:29] *** digifor has quit IRC [13:53:42] *** gerard13 has quit IRC [13:54:49] <nasser> when I try to compite radeonhd driver I get: No acceptable C compiler found if $PATH [13:55:06] <nasser> when I try to compile radeonhd driver I get: No acceptable C compiler found in $PATH [13:56:46] *** gerard13 has joined #opensolaris [13:57:36] *** Animal-X has joined #opensolaris [13:57:43] <CosmicDJ> nasser: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html [13:58:35] <TheK> evocallaghan: I don't find any docs what so ever. there are plenty of references which state "does not work" though. There is even a recommendation: [13:58:36] <TheK> So in summary, if you're doing C and/or C++ development on Solaris or Linux, Sun Studio is probably your best choice. If you're doing mixed Java and C/C++ then netbeans. If you're not developing on Solaris or Linux then netbeans is you're only choice. [13:59:24] <qiyong> does solaris support virtual console? [13:59:27] *** Gekz has quit IRC [13:59:28] <qiyong> vt0, vt1, ... [13:59:38] *** gehmehgeh has joined #opensolaris [13:59:48] <CosmicDJ> qiyong: solaris? no? opensolaris? not yet, sxce 101+ yes [14:00:26] <qiyong> CosmicDJ: sxce 101+ ? [14:00:36] <qiyong> vt will be added in future? [14:00:40] *** tsoome has joined #opensolaris [14:00:43] <CosmicDJ> solaris express community edition, build 101 or higher [14:00:44] <qiyong> what system invented vt? [14:00:54] <qiyong> what's the latest build now? [14:00:59] <CosmicDJ> 99 [14:01:06] <Stric> see /topic [14:01:10] <qiyong> they will add vt? [14:01:19] <CosmicDJ> they already did [14:01:31] <qiyong> vt is not necessary [14:01:36] <qiyong> not quite necessary [14:01:42] <qiyong> i guest bsd invented vt [14:01:42] <CosmicDJ> if you know screen, it's not [14:02:14] <qiyong> screen's hotkey often troubles user a bit [14:02:35] <Stric> most vt limitations trouble me much more [14:02:44] <Stric> like crap scrollback, single-host, ... [14:02:46] <qiyong> what is it? [14:03:01] <qiyong> freebsd scrollback is very useful [14:03:07] *** RavenSlay3r has joined #opensolaris [14:03:25] <qiyong> under solaris, how to scroll up the console? [14:03:37] *** gerard131 has quit IRC [14:03:37] <Stric> you don't yet [14:04:01] <qiyong> so, they are lost? [14:04:05] <Stric> yes. [14:04:10] <qiyong> too bad [14:04:35] <Stric> use screen, use |less, use X+xterm, ... more than one way to get it [14:04:52] <qiyong> why skip 100? [14:05:08] <qiyong> for system boot up, those doesn't work [14:05:50] <CosmicDJ> qiyong: unless you boot verbose, there isn't much to see [14:07:41] <qiyong> how can i know where's my home and how to change my shell? i know i can grep /etc/passwd, but, what's the offical way? [14:08:26] <CosmicDJ> evocallaghan: do you still think he has some linux bg? [14:09:09] <CosmicDJ> qiyong: http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/817-1985 [14:09:21] <qiyong> CosmicDJ: he == me? [14:13:49] <Berny> hmm under which category would one file an rfe for zfs on b.o.o? [14:13:52] <qiyong> if i startup X, can i go back to the console still? [14:15:20] *** vmlemon_ has quit IRC [14:15:52] *** cmihai has joined #OpenSolaris [14:16:07] <BBHoss> anyone having trouble with update all in the package manager? [14:16:26] <codestr0m> BBHoss: are you using IPS on os2008.* [14:16:47] <BBHoss> it says it needs to update the package manager and i say ok, except when it gets to the package screen, it shows 0 packages and never installs anything [14:17:00] <BBHoss> codestr0m: maybe? [14:17:12] <hrist> BBHoss: did you try pkg install SUNWipkg manually? [14:17:25] <BBHoss> hrist: yeah after it froze initially [14:18:19] <BBHoss> hrist: or do you mean using the terminal? [14:18:41] *** Odin- has joined #opensolaris [14:18:56] *** gothos has quit IRC [14:18:57] <hrist> yes [14:19:05] <BBHoss> ok no then [14:19:17] *** gerard13 has quit IRC [14:19:32] <BBHoss> i get an error [14:19:44] <BBHoss> Image object has no attribute History [14:20:18] *** BBHoss_alt has joined #opensolaris [14:20:47] <BBHoss_alt> hrist: http://pastie.org/301330 [14:21:13] *** fr4g has joined #opensolaris [14:22:55] *** nasser has quit IRC [14:23:19] <hrist> uhm? I don't think you need the @blablabla-version part [14:23:28] <hrist> just `pkg install SUNWipkg` should do [14:23:35] <BBHoss> hrist: anything run with pkg says that [14:23:56] <hrist> hm, I don't know what to do then [14:24:01] <BBHoss> i think its fuxxed [14:24:10] <BBHoss> since i aborted the installation [14:24:11] *** zegenvs has joined #opensolaris [14:24:17] <BBHoss> reinstall time anyways :) [14:24:24] *** BBHoss_alt has quit IRC [14:24:31] *** kRutOn has left #opensolaris [14:24:33] <evocallaghan> CosmicDJ:Working on other things man [14:24:33] *** |WIZ| has joined #opensolaris [14:24:47] *** linma` has quit IRC [14:24:53] <evocallaghan> http://dzen.geekmode.org/dwiki/doku.php?id=dzen:network-meter converting this to solaris for my distro [14:25:52] <CosmicDJ> evocallaghan: do you know nicstat? http://www.brendangregg.com/Perf/network.html [14:27:50] <evocallaghan> No but thanks [14:28:01] *** PersonXXL has quit IRC [14:28:17] *** tsoome1 has joined #opensolaris [14:28:57] *** gerard13 has joined #opensolaris [14:29:25] <krdoor> someone experience with jumpstarting opensolaris 2008.11 ? [14:30:21] *** vmlemon_ has joined #opensolaris [14:32:11] *** tsoome has quit IRC [14:33:55] *** fr4g_ has joined #opensolaris [14:35:45] *** twisti_work is now known as twisti [14:38:58] *** TT2 has joined #opensolaris [14:39:03] *** LordIllpalazoThe has quit IRC [14:39:18] *** LordIllpalazoThe has joined #opensolaris [14:40:54] <evocallaghan> hahaha http://dzen.geekmode.org/dwiki/doku.php?id=dzen:procrastination-hack [14:42:05] *** fr4g has quit IRC [14:44:24] *** InHisName has joined #opensolaris [14:50:55] *** gerard13 has quit IRC [14:52:47] <qiyong> how to know what's the user's home dir? [14:54:12] <evocallaghan> echo $HOME [14:54:27] *** ttmrichter has quit IRC [14:54:45] *** vmlemon_ has quit IRC [14:54:46] <qiyong> thanks [14:55:13] <DTEIT> cifs server is enough stabil or should not be used? [14:55:21] <qiyong> and his shell? evocallaghan [14:55:48] *** Belgar has joined #opensolaris [14:55:50] <Cyrille> $SHELL [14:55:57] <Belgar> /bin/bash [14:56:20] <Cyrille> for instance. [14:56:46] *** digifor has joined #opensolaris [14:58:00] <qiyong> $SHELL is the logon shell, now the shell currently running? [14:58:07] <qiyong> Cyrille: [14:58:08] <RavenSlay3r> Whats the best way to run 'dos2unix', remove trailing-spaces, and maybe convert tabs-to-spaces on a group of files, preferbly all in one shot? [14:58:32] <Belgar> qiyong; i think so indeed [14:58:56] *** rafaeldt has joined #opensolaris [14:59:29] <Belgar> echo $0 perhaps ;) [14:59:38] <CosmicDJ> RavenSlay3r: perl w/ inplace replace ;) [14:59:40] *** zegenvs has quit IRC [14:59:51] *** rafaeldt has quit IRC [15:00:04] *** LordIllpalazo has joined #opensolaris [15:00:07] *** rafaeldt has joined #opensolaris [15:00:21] <evocallaghan> qiyong: man env [15:00:35] *** LordIllpalazoThe has quit IRC [15:00:49] *** LordIllpalazo has quit IRC [15:01:52] <RavenSlay3r> CosmicDJ: hehe thanks [15:02:34] <qiyong> # env - mkdir /home/qiyong [15:02:34] <qiyong> mkdir: Failed to make directory "/home/qiyong"; Operation not applicable [15:03:38] <Belgar> its automounted, stop automounter, edit /etc/auto_master, and restart it if you wish /net/ automounting [15:04:02] <CosmicDJ> qiyong: http://www.c0t0d0s0.org/archives/4120-Less-known-Solaris-Features-exporthome-home-autofs.html [15:04:10] *** sophokles has quit IRC [15:09:51] *** gerard13 has joined #opensolaris [15:10:30] *** sophokles has joined #opensolaris [15:10:47] *** vmlemon_ has joined #opensolaris [15:14:12] *** sophokles has left #opensolaris [15:15:15] *** ericjray has joined #opensolaris [15:16:08] *** rafaeldt has quit IRC [15:18:15] *** jkoivuko has joined #opensolaris [15:18:17] *** aquanaut has joined #opensolaris [15:18:28] *** jkoivuko is now known as fts [15:20:32] *** ciapsadm has joined #opensolaris [15:20:42] <SYS64738> damn I would like xvm working on my doomed server [15:21:21] *** comay has joined #opensolaris [15:21:36] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o comay [15:21:38] *** xRaich[o]2x has joined #opensolaris [15:23:33] *** takahide has joined #opensolaris [15:25:40] *** ericjray has quit IRC [15:27:08] <DTEIT> i have some problems with cifs server and osx clients [15:27:29] <DTEIT> i'be started and configured cifs server and everything seems to work [15:27:52] <DTEIT> i can connect from an osx client, but when i create a new folder, i cannot see it anymore [15:30:21] <CosmicDJ> DTEIT: Terminal.app or Finder? [15:31:20] *** xZR has joined #opensolaris [15:31:20] <DTEIT> finder [15:31:22] <xZR> hi [15:31:56] <CosmicDJ> DTEIT: tried a refresh/reload? [15:32:06] <DTEIT> yes, but the same [15:32:49] <DTEIT> uhm...after a few disconnect/reconnect [15:32:54] <DTEIT> now works [15:33:27] <DTEIT> uhm...but if i delete everything and i try to create a new one...the same problem [15:34:16] *** rootard has joined #opensolaris [15:34:57] *** rootard has left #opensolaris [15:34:58] *** _capiira has joined #opensolaris [15:36:19] *** capiira_ has quit IRC [15:36:36] *** digifor__ has joined #opensolaris [15:38:16] <digifor> I seem to be in some wierd rebooting loop. [15:38:32] *** digifor__ has quit IRC [15:39:14] <digifor> last thing I see is syncing file systems [15:41:30] <digifor> so trying -k -db [15:43:31] <jamesd> digifor, -k -s [15:43:38] <jamesd> and -v \ [15:43:48] <jamesd> er leave off \ [15:43:50] <digifor> thanks will try them [15:44:22] <digifor> I thought that might have been a typ) er typo [15:45:04] *** krdoor has quit IRC [15:48:56] *** anilg has joined #opensolaris [15:55:55] *** andy__ has joined #opensolaris [15:56:15] *** pgr has joined #opensolaris [15:56:40] <pgr> hello. is there a driver for opensolaris for iwl5300? on linux the lkm is called: e1000e [15:58:45] <jamesd> pgr sun.com/bigadmin/hcl [15:59:45] <sartek> http://opensolaris.org/os/community/laptop/wireless/wireless_driver_compatible_list/ [16:00:25] <pgr> ty [16:00:39] * Joerg is away: for a while [16:06:12] *** pgr has quit IRC [16:07:30] *** Odin- has quit IRC [16:11:41] *** Belgar has quit IRC [16:12:13] *** bofur has quit IRC [16:15:17] *** e1kg1 has quit IRC [16:23:11] *** jgracin has quit IRC [16:25:29] *** vmlemon_ has quit IRC [16:25:33] *** vmlemon_ has joined #opensolaris [16:28:20] <InHisName> Upon booting virtual guest on vbox, OpenSolaris I have error: ld.so.1: xscreensaver-lock: fatal: libglib-2.0.so.0: open failed: No such file or directory it wont stop. I was in middle of adding 'packages' with manager. All d/l fine and started to install when it went into screen saver mode and tripped on error for first time. What should I do? [16:31:20] *** syntax_solaris has joined #opensolaris [16:31:23] <syntax_solaris> so [16:31:31] <syntax_solaris> da is copy und paste mal gleich einfacher [16:31:49] <syntax_solaris> pkg: no package matching 'SUNWipkg0.5.11-0.' could be found in current catalog [16:31:51] <hrist> syntax_solaris: => #opensolaris-de ;) [16:32:20] <syntax_solaris> O_o [16:32:28] <syntax_solaris> ahjo [16:32:31] <syntax_solaris> ^ [16:33:10] *** nex-tek has quit IRC [16:34:07] *** sysspoof has joined #opensolaris [16:34:36] <TheK> InHisName: Wild guess is that you need to set runtime path for xscreensaver-lock. google elfedit and RUNTIME_PATH [16:35:14] *** webar7 has joined #opensolaris [16:35:22] <sysspoof> hi, i found my driver. it's called iwh. but if I execute: add_drv -i '"pciexxxxxx,xxxx"' SUNWiwh it means: The file /kernel/drv/SUNWiwh is not in ELF format. what am I doing wrong? [16:36:33] <TheK> InHisName: Sorry... try this instead: http://blogs.sun.com/ali/entry/avoiding_ld_library_path_the [16:36:34] <webar7> can/does zfs mimic something like linux's pivot_root syscall (which seems a bit scary) [16:37:06] <webar7> or does osol/solaris does something like pivot_root somewhere else [16:37:23] <webar7> it just seems like zfs can do almost *anything* [16:37:42] *** syntax_solaris has left #opensolaris [16:39:15] <InHisName> thanks, TheK the link says some clues for me. Should I give up and 'pull the plug' and go for a restart so I can get access to fix things? [16:39:19] *** phimic has quit IRC [16:40:27] <TheK> InHisName: please rephrase your question. It doesn't make any sense to me. [16:41:28] <webar7> it seems like a kernel could boot with zfs on root ... and then zfs could "pivot" mount points with zfs set mountpoint=/tmproot zpool/originalroot ; zfs set mountpoint=/ zpool/newroot ; [16:41:47] <TheK> InHisName: My guess is that if you find out which runpath xscreensaver-lock uses, it might turn out it is pointing to the wrong lib. You can then write a new runpath pointing to the correct lib, and it might work for you. Then again, I'm only guessing. [16:41:51] <InHisName> I am 'locked' out by the error. Shall I just kill power and start again. Will I have any luck booting up? [16:42:11] <TheK> oh.. That I can't answer. Sorry. [16:42:36] <TheK> Ctrl+Alt+Backspace ? [16:42:39] *** netj has quit IRC [16:43:17] <InHisName> I'll just read the refs given and see what I can learn and proceed with what ever I can make out of it. 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[17:00:42] <Dakylla> http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/products/Controllers/Hardware/sata/entry/AAR-1430SA/ [17:01:00] <throwt> sun.com/bigadmin/hcl [17:01:14] <Dakylla> Adaptec RAID 1430SA PCI Express x4, 4-port SATA 3Gb/s supporting RAID 0, 1, 10 [17:03:14] <sysspoof> where can i find the lan driver e1000e for opensolaris? [17:04:10] <DTEIT> e1000e is already in opensolaris (at least in the sxce) [17:04:21] * Joerg is back (gone 01:03:41) [17:05:51] <DTEIT> i still have this problem with mac osx and cifs server [17:05:58] *** AxeZ has joined #opensolaris [17:06:08] <DTEIT> anyone experienced some issues with browsing? [17:06:13] <e^ipi> OSX is vaguely unix based [17:06:15] <e^ipi> just use NFS [17:06:25] <DTEIT> we have a mix environment [17:06:31] <e^ipi> do both [17:06:49] <DTEIT> uhm...try to explain how to do it again...no please :-) [17:06:54] *** laflak has joined #opensolaris [17:07:01] <DTEIT> the users here are really stupid [17:07:21] *** fr4g has joined #opensolaris [17:08:29] <trochej> Morn' [17:08:50] <esproul> hi all, can anyone help me diagnose this message from a V890's serial console? [17:08:53] <esproul> ttymon: set_termio: get_ttymode failed: Timer expired [17:08:53] <esproul> ttymon: initial termio on (/dev/console) failed [17:09:03] <tsoome1> if you wanna just browse shares zfs sharesmb=on and you are done:P [17:09:35] *** LordIllpalazoThe has joined #opensolaris [17:09:35] *** gehmehgeh has quit IRC [17:09:37] <DTEIT> tsoome1: and it works....but it appear that sometimes a osx client cannot see anymore the content of the share [17:10:17] <tsoome1> well. opensolaris is not production software, so, the alternative is to use solaris 10 + samba. [17:11:09] <DTEIT> infact i was thinking to go back to samba...but just curios if is something known or not [17:11:18] <tsoome1> the thing is - you can set up nfs shares as well, but then users need to open connection based on nfs:// notation [17:11:21] *** vmlemon_ has quit IRC [17:11:22] *** LordIllpalazo has quit IRC [17:11:25] *** vmlemon_ has joined #opensolaris [17:12:10] <DTEIT> yeah..i'll try samba then [17:13:06] <e^ipi> tsoome1: you can automate it as well [17:13:25] <e^ipi> /etc/exports on leopard, a setting in netinfo on previous [17:13:38] <e^ipi> erm... not exports [17:13:40] *** crichardso has joined #opensolaris [17:13:59] <e^ipi> somewhere anyways [17:14:05] <e^ipi> stupid mac... [17:14:10] <DTEIT> i agree :-) [17:14:33] <jbk> heh [17:14:38] <e^ipi> i don't really mind macs, they're just halfway between a desktop OS and a real OS [17:14:50] <e^ipi> and it's the desktop OS bit that i run in to problems with [17:15:05] <DTEIT> yes...even if with the 10.5 they got much better then before [17:16:07] *** mphill has left #opensolaris [17:16:10] *** nareshov has quit IRC [17:17:20] *** stevel has joined #opensolaris [17:17:20] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stevel [17:17:38] *** LordIllpalazoThe has quit IRC [17:17:54] <throwt> man it would be nice if udfs could be r/w on a dvd+rw [17:17:56] *** LordIllpalazo has joined #opensolaris [17:18:25] *** ShadowHntr has joined #opensolaris [17:19:59] *** nareshov has joined #opensolaris [17:22:09] *** fr4g__ has joined #opensolaris [17:22:20] <desp> Hi. [17:22:27] <desp> My OpenSolaris VM has become corrupted, apparently all by itself. [17:22:29] <desp> Here's the boot error message I get: http://pastie.textmate.org/301501 [17:22:31] <desp> Any clues? [17:24:34] *** alka has joined #opensolaris [17:26:07] *** vmlemon_ has quit IRC [17:26:08] *** vmlemon__ has joined #opensolaris [17:26:43] <webar7> e^ipi, they shoulda just sold the original NeXT :) [17:27:43] *** luc^ has quit IRC [17:28:28] *** tsoome1 has quit IRC [17:28:30] *** kohju_ has quit IRC [17:28:31] *** kohju is now known as KOHJU [17:28:33] *** fr4g_ has quit IRC [17:29:47] *** Chipdancer_ has quit IRC [17:30:22] *** TrogL has joined #opensolaris [17:31:24] *** fr4g has quit IRC [17:31:50] *** ciapsadm has quit IRC [17:32:28] *** jay-away has joined #opensolaris [17:32:44] <TrogL> I'm seeing "smcboot [a number]: [ID 801587 user.error] bind: Cannot assign requested address" every 5 seconds since reboot. WTF? [17:34:21] <TrogL> from /var/adm/messages " /sbin/dhcpagent[135]: [ID 787751 daemon.error] dhcp_ipc_init: cannot bind to port 4999 (agent already running?). It's got a fixed address, shouldn't even be asking for DHCP. [17:34:50] <TrogL> also "[ID 783678 daemon.warning] /usr/lib/netsvc/yp/ypserv: no /var/yp/securenets file [17:36:15] <TrogL> they're complaining they can't start ORACLE. [17:37:26] <webar7> what is ORACLE saying [17:37:45] <webar7> the bind part? [17:38:08] <Dakylla> where can i find a list of sata controler compatible with opensolaris please ? [17:38:52] <webar7> i.e. is it the lack of address/socket whatever that is making ORACLE not start? [17:39:18] <webar7> is the machine using yp/nis ? [17:40:09] *** twisti is now known as twisti_work [17:43:23] *** jfisc has joined #opensolaris [17:44:42] *** vmlemon__ has quit IRC [17:45:25] *** tsoome has joined #opensolaris [17:47:22] *** fr4g_ has joined #opensolaris [17:47:27] <TrogL> webar7: machine IS using NIS [17:47:43] *** MrBIOS- has quit IRC [17:49:01] <TrogL> there's a command to ask server who's using what port. Anybody remember? [17:49:08] *** MrBIOS_ has joined #OpenSolaris [17:49:58] <throwt> lsof [17:50:13] <h3sp4wn> Thats broken on Solaris [17:50:29] <webar7> netstat :) [17:50:33] <TrogL> that's files. I need sockets [17:50:35] *** MrBIOS- has joined #OpenSolaris [17:50:46] <throwt> heh, dont be so prejuded [17:50:49] <TomJ> lsof works fine in Solaris so far as I can see [17:51:29] *** MrBIOS- has quit IRC [17:51:34] <webar7> anyway if it doesn't need dhcp turn that off [17:52:43] *** MrBIOS- has joined #OpenSolaris [17:52:45] <h3sp4wn> TomJ: Won't even compile on SXCE and on Solaris 10 It uses the ZFS headers from SXCE that is not something I want to use [17:52:50] <TrogL> Here's the ORACLE errors (next five lines) user noted that can't ping localhost from the box. Anyway... [17:52:56] <TrogL> TNS-01191: Failed to initialize the local OS authentication subsystem [17:53:03] <TrogL> TNS-12545: Connect failed because target host or object does not exist [17:53:10] *** topgun17_ has quit IRC [17:53:10] <TrogL> TNS-12560: TNS:protocol adapter error [17:53:18] <TrogL> TNS-00515: Connect failed because target host or object does not exist [17:53:24] <TrogL> Solaris Error: 126: Cannot assign requested address [17:53:25] *** cmihai has quit IRC [17:53:25] *** MrBIOS_ has quit IRC [17:53:28] <TomJ> h3sp4wn: not tried on SXCE, and on Solaris 10 I always use packages never compled, but they've always worked fine [17:54:31] <TrogL> interesting....ifconfig -a shows no loopback interface [17:55:13] *** MrBIOS_ has joined #OpenSolaris [17:55:35] *** carl- has quit IRC [17:56:03] *** fr4g__ has quit IRC [17:56:28] *** MrBIOS-_ has joined #OpenSolaris [17:57:05] *** erast has quit IRC [17:57:10] <TrogL> how to I re-establish loopback? [17:57:45] *** MrBIOS-- has joined #OpenSolaris [17:58:10] *** MeP3aBeu has quit IRC [17:59:07] <CIA-58> John Forte <John.Forte at Sun dot COM>: 6745433 Merge NWS consolidation into OS/Net consolidation (fix gcc) [17:59:43] *** jv_ has joined #opensolaris [18:00:02] *** duri has quit IRC [18:00:12] <houst0n-_> Anyone having probs with pkg.opensolaris.org atm? [18:00:42] <CosmicDJ> TrogL: you borked loopback? [18:01:10] <tsoome> ifconfig lo0 plumb [18:03:13] *** sommerfeld has joined #opensolaris [18:03:13] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o sommerfeld [18:06:25] *** duri has joined #opensolaris [18:06:57] <TrogL> loopback enabled - thanks COsmicDJ, tsoome [18:07:43] *** bondolo has joined #opensolaris [18:08:28] *** sommerfeld has quit IRC [18:10:01] <sartek> how to detect the encoding of a file? [18:10:12] <throwt> use the 'file' command [18:10:13] *** MrBIOS- has quit IRC [18:10:41] <sartek> foo.txt: data [18:10:53] <throwt> data means 'nfi' [18:11:12] <sartek> bar.txt: text [18:13:45] *** MrBIOS-_ has quit IRC [18:14:04] *** MrBIOS_ has quit IRC [18:14:10] *** MrBIOS-- has quit IRC [18:14:48] *** Samy has joined #opensolaris [18:14:59] *** fr4g_ has quit IRC [18:15:19] *** fr4g_ has joined #opensolaris [18:24:24] *** bubbva has joined #opensolaris [18:31:52] *** luc^ has joined #opensolaris [18:34:05] *** cypromis has quit IRC [18:34:29] <webar7> does zfs have facility for doing live mirroring "over the network" to another machine? or is that left to application layer [18:34:53] <tsoome> man zfs send [18:35:02] <throwt> as in a distributed file system? [18:35:08] <tsoome> nope [18:35:12] <throwt> zfs isnt meant for that [18:35:20] <throwt> that is, according to the koolaid i've been drinking [18:35:30] <throwt> but as soon as it written, it will have been part of the original plan [18:35:40] <webar7> hah [18:35:43] <webar7> ok [18:36:08] <webar7> thinking of something like freebsd's ggate [18:36:17] <throwt> thats exactly what i was going to say... [18:36:17] *** kim0 has quit IRC [18:36:32] <m0zzzy> webar7: you may be interested in AVS..host-based mirroring [18:36:46] <webar7> where you do mirroring on top of exported block device [18:36:54] <webar7> m0zzzy, ok [18:38:12] *** Aria has joined #opensolaris [18:42:48] *** vmlemon_ has joined #opensolaris [18:44:02] <h3sp4wn> You should be able to do ufs using zvol's and then use the cluster filesystem (Probably it has drawbacks I haven't thought about). If it was upto me I would probably try Lustre (perhaps risking my job in the process) [18:44:21] <sickness> throwt: have you had a look at AVS ? [18:44:30] <sickness> oh, m0zzzy already said that :) [18:44:31] <sickness> sorry [18:45:25] *** rab has joined #opensolaris [18:46:25] *** Fullmoon has quit IRC [18:48:51] *** jgracin has joined #opensolaris [18:49:18] *** e1kg has quit IRC [18:50:11] <CosmicDJ> lustru doesn't work on solaris yet [18:50:24] <CosmicDJ> IIRC the only shared FS available on solaris is qfs [18:51:04] <h3sp4wn> This implies otherwise - http://www.sun.com/software/products/lustre [18:51:30] <bda> Lustre isn't a shared filesystem in the sense you're thinking. [18:52:47] *** jfndi has quit IRC [18:52:52] <CosmicDJ> h3sp4wn: http://www.sun.com/software/products/lustre/specs.xml [18:53:11] *** calmeida_ has quit IRC [18:53:12] <CosmicDJ> h3sp4wn: OS lists RedHat, SuSE and Linux 2.6 kernels [18:54:08] *** dguitar has joined #opensolaris [18:54:20] *** LordIllpalazo has quit IRC [18:54:39] *** LuckyLuke has joined #opensolaris [18:59:47] <LuckyLuke> is SXCE100 being skipped because it's a too round number? :) [19:00:05] *** Dakylla has left #opensolaris [19:00:16] <throwt> I was kinda looking forward to snapshot 100 ;P [19:00:53] <h3sp4wn> CosmicDJ: The choices of companies constantly baffle me (The only one that didn't really was DEC but that didn't work either so ... oh well) [19:01:54] <e^ipi> what choice, to not have lustre on solaris? [19:02:10] <e^ipi> that wasn't a choice, the acquisition was pretty recent so they haven't had time for it to catch up [19:02:21] *** Odin- has joined #opensolaris [19:03:32] <th> is there some difference in filename handling between samba and kernel-smb regarding this 8.3 filename abbreviation thing? i've strange effects using cmake on a kernel-smb share [19:03:48] <th> i was not able to track it down yet [19:03:59] <h3sp4wn> e^ipi: Don't see why that could not have been a pre condition of the sale and have been done before [19:04:06] *** niq has quit IRC [19:04:44] *** mikefut has quit IRC [19:05:38] *** dguitar has left #opensolaris [19:05:45] *** alka has quit IRC [19:06:28] <th> something about the SMB_FLAGS2_IS_LONG_NAME bit in smb implementation perhaps [19:07:29] <th> or even SMB_FLAGS2_KNOWS_LONG_NAMES which is a client side flag to inform the server that long filenams are accepted [19:09:21] <e^ipi> h3sp4wn: because that would've been silly, you're buying the company and all it's engineers anyways [19:11:02] <e^ipi> and it would take the same amount of time if not longer [19:18:01] <LuckyLuke> I'm using the SXCE99 dvd iso image and I want to do a network install. are the instruction for solaris10 (I found those on docs.sun.com) still valid or is there any big difference? [19:20:42] *** mega has joined #opensolaris [19:20:58] *** gerard131 has joined #opensolaris [19:21:08] <e^ipi> LuckyLuke, yeah, the instructions are the same [19:22:39] <LuckyLuke> thanks, doing setup_install_server. Too bad they don't consider to directly export the dvd and want you to copy everything on disk. [19:23:42] <tsoome> ? [19:24:00] *** ruse39[home]_ has joined #opensolaris [19:24:25] <tsoome> nothing prevents you to use dvd directly, except it will be low and will nerf the idea of network install ..... [19:24:39] <tsoome> low=slow* [19:24:41] *** digifor__ has quit IRC [19:25:20] *** Auralis_ has quit IRC [19:26:57] <LuckyLuke> yeah I'm speaking about the "official way", that wants you to run Tools/setup_install_server and copy the files. Of course I can directly NFSexport the ISO image loopback-mounted (I have the .ISO and not an actual dvd media in my "install server") [19:28:41] *** ruse39[home]__ has quit IRC [19:29:11] *** Auralis has joined #opensolaris [19:30:22] *** gerard13 has quit IRC [19:31:58] *** TT2 has quit IRC [19:34:02] *** dunc_ has joined #opensolaris [19:34:50] *** perlmongo has quit IRC [19:35:19] <tsoome> well.... [19:35:39] <tsoome> from man: Use setup_install_server to copy the Solaris CD to a disk [19:35:40] <tsoome> (to set up an install server) or to copy just the boot [19:35:40] <tsoome> software of the Solaris CD to a disk (to set up a boot [19:35:40] <tsoome> server). [19:36:08] <tsoome> meaning, the setup_install_server is to copy data. you dont have to if you dont wanna do that... [19:36:31] *** gerard13 has joined #opensolaris [19:37:43] <LuckyLuke> in the past I manually set up linux or bsd machines as boot/install servers for solaris without problems. This time the server is SXCE67. Right now I'm trying to understand the tftp part... where is the server, where do usually the files go, etc... [19:41:08] *** sysspoof has quit IRC [19:42:07] <tsoome> use add_install_client and check it out?;) [19:43:32] *** DTEIT has quit IRC [19:43:42] <LuckyLuke> that's what I'm actually doing [19:44:37] <tsoome> btw, the old rarp method for sparcs is exactly the same (unless they have changed it), pxe boot/grub is a bit different [19:46:15] *** Yorlik has joined #opensolaris [19:46:17] *** vmlemon_ has quit IRC [19:46:45] *** anilg has quit IRC [19:47:06] *** MeP3aBeu has joined #opensolaris [19:47:30] *** Fish- has joined #opensolaris [19:48:05] *** vmlemon_ has joined #opensolaris [19:48:31] *** Carl_ has joined #opensolaris [19:49:20] *** Carl_ has left #opensolaris [19:49:37] *** Fidi has joined #opensolaris [19:55:56] *** ondre has left #opensolaris [19:59:04] <CIA-58> aw148015 <Andrew.W.Wilson at sun dot com>: 6720351 FileBench should have a Video Server like workload, 6725102 FileBench needs some directory manipulation flowops, 6753319 SUNWfilebench package dependency issue in snv_99 [19:59:04] <CIA-58> Huie-Ying Lee <Huie-Ying.Lee at Sun dot COM>: 6658764 remove SMARTCARD code from SunSSH [20:01:24] *** gerard131 has quit IRC [20:03:49] *** _setuid_H has joined #opensolaris [20:03:54] <_setuid_H> Evening all [20:04:43] *** comay has quit IRC [20:07:12] <codestr0m> I thought I had it in my notes, but what's the portable way to handle endian.h? [20:09:31] *** spiki has joined #opensolaris [20:09:38] *** gottadoit has quit IRC [20:10:17] <CosmicDJ> codestr0m: #ifdef OS_A #include <endian.h> #elif OS_B #include <sys/endian.h> etc ;) [20:10:37] <codestr0m> CosmicDJ: thanks. I saw ast/endian.h , but didn't look at it [20:12:08] *** vmlemon_ has quit IRC [20:15:21] *** gerard131 has joined #opensolaris [20:15:25] *** vmlemon_ has joined #opensolaris [20:16:24] *** sysspoof has joined #opensolaris [20:17:56] *** zeax has quit IRC [20:17:58] *** zeax has joined #opensolaris [20:18:25] *** perlmongo has joined #opensolaris [20:19:49] <CosmicDJ> wtf is <ast/*> ? [20:20:06] <e^ipi> at&t something something [20:20:20] <e^ipi> it's for libast, which ksh93 uses for all it's builtins [20:20:30] <e^ipi> cat, ls, what have you [20:20:37] <CosmicDJ> ah I see [20:20:48] <CosmicDJ> codestr0m: that doesn't sound portable... [20:21:02] <e^ipi> it's plenty portable [20:21:15] <e^ipi> it's designed specifically to be portable [20:21:23] <CosmicDJ> I don't have it on NetBSD [20:21:39] <e^ipi> you do if you install libast [20:21:41] <h3sp4wn> well there you have pdksh [20:21:41] <e^ipi> or ksh93 [20:22:22] <codestr0m> e^ipi: thanks for the feedback.. [20:22:37] <e^ipi> what is it you need from endian.h [20:24:36] <e^ipi> because netinet/in.h has hton*/ntoh* [20:24:39] *** gerard13 has quit IRC [20:24:57] <e^ipi> or arpa/inet.h [20:25:06] <e^ipi> which is how the open group mandates it [20:25:55] <e^ipi> that takes care of all your endian voodoo [20:27:45] *** SpyKee has joined #opensolaris [20:28:07] *** spiki has quit IRC [20:28:25] *** LordIllpalazo has joined #opensolaris [20:29:46] *** _setuid_H has quit IRC [20:29:49] *** vmlemon_ has quit IRC [20:34:05] *** MeP3aBeu has quit IRC [20:35:01] *** movement2 has joined #opensolaris [20:41:23] *** ruse39[home]__ has joined #opensolaris [20:42:23] *** sstallion has joined #opensolaris [20:44:02] *** gerard13 has joined #opensolaris [20:47:05] *** pjfloyd has joined #opensolaris [20:47:56] *** alanc-away is now known as alanc [20:48:49] *** gerard13 has quit IRC [20:55:57] *** laflak is now known as KernelKat [20:58:23] *** ruse39[home]_ has quit IRC [21:00:13] *** ruse39[home]__ is now known as ruse39[home] [21:07:40] *** gerard131 has quit IRC [21:08:18] *** Mazon has quit IRC [21:09:27] *** Mazon has joined #opensolaris [21:11:28] *** vmlemon has quit IRC [21:14:30] *** xRaich[o]2x has left #opensolaris [21:14:42] *** Odin- has quit IRC [21:16:40] *** vmlemon has joined #opensolaris [21:17:21] *** xZR is now known as laht [21:19:03] *** laht is now known as xZR [21:20:08] *** xZR is now known as laht [21:20:21] *** Macabee has joined #opensolaris [21:23:25] *** gothos has joined #opensolaris [21:23:47] *** laht is now known as xZR [21:25:25] <PaulR_> here is a dumb question [21:25:38] <PaulR_> what would deny ICMP over a crossover between to solaris hosts besides a FW? [21:25:44] <PaulR_> and hosts.deny [21:26:02] <PaulR_> both interfaces are up [21:26:35] <CosmicDJ> hosts.deny shouldn't block ICMP [21:27:03] <CosmicDJ> same subnet? [21:27:25] <throwt> is icmp being blocked ,while tcp isnt? [21:27:32] <PaulR_> same subnet [21:27:36] *** TheK has quit IRC [21:27:41] <CosmicDJ> and tcp/udp works? [21:27:52] <PaulR_> I can see traffic getting to the box I'm pinging...its just not making it back [21:28:01] <PaulR_> and everything is being arp'd correctly [21:28:17] *** Chipdancer has joined #opensolaris [21:28:22] <PaulR_> its a nxge interface [21:30:39] *** jgracin has quit IRC [21:32:21] *** pumpkin_ has quit IRC [21:40:07] *** vmlemon_ has joined #opensolaris [21:41:14] *** Cobra-the-joker has joined #opensolaris [21:41:25] <Cobra-the-joker> hey there every one [21:42:03] <Cobra-the-joker> i am new here to open solaris ...... [21:42:24] <Cobra-the-joker> i want to get some info from you about it ....if you dont mind ofcourse [21:42:37] <Cobra-the-joker> i want to know about the IPS [21:43:20] <bda> What do you want to know about the IPS? [21:43:30] <e^ipi> it's far more effective to ask actual questions than to ask questions about asking [21:43:46] <jbk> true, it isn't #meta-opensolaris :) [21:44:37] <e^ipi> we may be jerks but you could've avoided this snide remark by just asking your original question [21:44:52] <Cobra-the-joker> i heard about it from the internet ....i want to know the difrences between it and the RPM (i use fedora 9 at the moment) [21:45:04] * Cobra-the-joker thinks that they all the same [21:45:12] <e^ipi> rpm doesn't do a zfs snapshot before installing stuff [21:45:17] <e^ipi> so if it breaks something, sux for you [21:45:24] <e^ipi> if IPS breaks something, rollback and continue [21:45:43] <Cobra-the-joker> e^ipi , coool really [21:45:46] <alanc> IPS has the network repository support integrated as a core part of the packaging system, not an add-on layer like yum over rpm [21:45:48] <Aria> RPM's command line tools are far more mature, a lot of query options and a neat database. [21:45:55] <Aria> RPM's rollback is per-package based, IPS's is image-based. [21:46:13] <Cobra-the-joker> hmmm.... [21:46:15] <Aria> And what alanc said, not that it matters in practice that much. [21:46:51] <Aria> (since yum and poldek are both mature tools.) [21:46:54] *** capaz has joined #opensolaris [21:47:06] <Cobra-the-joker> what you meen by mature exactly [21:47:06] *** capaz has quit IRC [21:47:31] <e^ipi> alanc, yeah, it's funny... hg:svn::rpm:ips ... moving to centralize package control and decentralize source control at the same time [21:47:34] *** BillyCrook1 has joined #opensolaris [21:47:53] <throwt> hmm, now if we can just have protein-bound packages [21:47:54] <Aria> RPM's gone through YEARS of evolution, and you can ask a lot about packages -- what libraries they include, including sonames; what packages depend on others and vice versa. An elegant options selection system, with suggests and provides. [21:48:17] <e^ipi> throwt, that made no sense at all. [21:48:34] <Aria> RPM also has some political baggage that IPS is currently without. [21:48:43] <Aria> Including two somewhat divergent forks. [21:49:06] <throwt> rpm is your mom's plasma, on a plate [21:49:21] <Aria> RPM's spec language is very powerful, and a lot of distros use it to produce some really repeatable builds. I'm not sure about IPS yet (I'm about to find out, the moment I get some free time, I'm gonna dive into packaging some things using IPS) [21:49:39] <e^ipi> alright, that's about enough of that then [21:49:47] *** throwt was kicked by e^ipi (troll.) [21:49:52] *** throwt has joined #opensolaris [21:50:10] *** sysspoof has quit IRC [21:50:11] *** capaz has joined #opensolaris [21:50:20] <Aria> I worry about the style of integrate from upstream that the current OS builds use; I prefer RPM's pristine+patches model. [21:50:31] <codestr0m> Aria: IPS is using spec files.. and the build process is *ugly* in the most polite way I can say [21:50:41] <codestr0m> Aria: I'm 100% with you [21:50:48] <e^ipi> codestr0m, no it isn't. [21:50:49] <Aria> But that's me, and so far, OS seems to be managing okay. I've just seen things not flow upstream from that model well. [21:50:53] <alanc> IPS has no build system, it's just about taking bits from whatever build system you use and delivering them [21:50:56] <e^ipi> the SFE guys are using spec files. [21:51:00] <codestr0m> I *hate* hacks and scripting in the spec files [21:51:05] <h3sp4wn> I think the only tool I have seen for managing stuff that has the right idea is pkgmanager from netbsd [21:51:08] <e^ipi> yeah, lovely... don't use SFE then [21:51:13] <alanc> codestr0m: JDS & SFE use spec files, most IPS packages don't [21:51:14] <Aria> I've seen RPM specs be both good and bad. [21:51:20] <codestr0m> e^ipi: ok. IPS is SVR4 being converted over to IPS packages to be accurate? [21:51:27] <e^ipi> yes [21:51:29] <Aria> The distro of Linux that I use uses RPM masterfully. [21:51:33] <codestr0m> great. even uglier :P [21:51:51] <e^ipi> i'm sure they'd love your patches to make it better [21:51:59] <codestr0m> Aria: patches welcome, but don't plan to turn this boat.. pm me if you're interested in an alternative [21:52:16] <alanc> Aria: depends which part of the OS builds you look at - most of the ones tracking external upstream (JDS, SFW, X, SFE) do use the pristine+patches model - only the few external bits integrated into ON are kept all mixed together [21:52:22] <Cobra-the-joker> so i got from you that rpm is more better than IPS ...coz it has the bug fixes as it is mature (like you said :P) [21:52:58] <Aria> Mmm, I didn't say that, and for good reason, Cobra-the-joker. IPS has a lot of promise, especially as it's currently managed, things are going well. It's just young. [21:53:15] <Cobra-the-joker> hmmm [21:53:21] <e^ipi> Cobra-the-joker, IPS has the potential to be better than RPM... but it's only been around for about a year [21:53:25] *** _capiira has quit IRC [21:53:30] * Cobra-the-joker is afraid of tnew IPS bugs [21:53:47] <Aria> But then, I'd use IPS on OS, SVR4 packages on Solaris, and RPM on RPM-based linux. I believe in integration over a religious war. [21:54:01] <CosmicDJ> if you're afraid of sw bugs, then stop using *any* sw now :) [21:54:26] <h3sp4wn> (you tell pkgmanager what you want and it deals with the rest and lisp is definately the right choice for a package manager) [21:54:28] <Cobra-the-joker> lol [21:54:51] <Aria> (Lisp is fine, but the algorithms would work in any language.) [21:55:04] <e^ipi> heh, lisp [21:55:11] <e^ipi> (())(()(((()))))) [21:55:17] <Cobra-the-joker> aha ....and another question pls here . [21:55:27] <alanc> IPS doesn't have different forks of the project arguing with each other like RPM does 8-) [21:55:29] <e^ipi> Cobra-the-joker, another meta-question you mean... [21:55:36] <e^ipi> just ask questions, asking to ask questions is silly [21:56:17] <Cobra-the-joker> i have a usb adsl modem here ....is opensolaris compitable with it ? [21:57:41] <h3sp4wn> Aria: true problem with the others is they are either time consuming to write or slow (I suppose ocaml or haskell etc are also ok) [21:58:00] <e^ipi> Cobra-the-joker, probably not... you don't have an ethernet card? [21:58:44] <Cobra-the-joker> i have ...but its recomeended from my ISP [21:58:51] * Aria shrugs. The systems exist -- PLD Linux has quite a good package manager written in C, managing dependencies for RPM. I don't think that implementation language matters that much. [21:59:06] <CIA-58> David Major <David.Major at Sun dot COM>: 6748184 MMS appears to overlook the authorizations, and profiles best practices and the SMF policy, 6707505 add mms rbac web pages [21:59:07] <CIA-58> Qiyan Sun - Sun Microsystems - San Diego United States <Qiyan.Sun at Sun dot COM>: 6763781 hxge needs to change clock_div and rcr_cfgb.timeout settings for p1.2 and above to increase perf, 6763791 hxge needs to workaround the "WARNING: hxge0 : ==> hxge_syserr_intr: device error - PCI-E", 6760357 hxge failed to detect link up and link down events [21:59:14] *** gronlund has joined #opensolaris [22:00:16] <e^ipi> Cobra-the-joker, your isp doesn't know what they're talking about [22:00:28] <gronlund> can someone tell me what would be the most appropriate opensolaris version for an old Sun Ultra 5/10 (440Mhz, 512ram) ? [22:00:30] <e^ipi> ( don't feel bad, mine's run by morons too ) [22:00:30] <Cobra-the-joker> lol ...how is that ? [22:00:48] <e^ipi> the USB interfaces are in my experience totally garbage [22:00:52] <CosmicDJ> mine, too :( can't even run ntpd here... [22:01:04] <e^ipi> much more stable and faster connections can be had by using the ethernet interface [22:01:15] <e^ipi> gronlund, solaris9 [22:01:21] <e^ipi> gronlund, 512M of ram is painful [22:01:27] <gronlund> yeah [22:01:32] <e^ipi> alternately, the machine makes a pretty good doorstop [22:01:33] <gronlund> but i got it free =) [22:01:40] <gronlund> oh come on [22:01:40] <e^ipi> you overpaid [22:01:49] <gronlund> anything more light-weight then solaris 9 ? [22:01:57] <e^ipi> someone got their trash hauled away for free... good for them [22:01:59] <CosmicDJ> gronlund: netbsd/openbsd ;) or take alook at mmilax [22:02:00] <bda> gronlund: The most appropriate operating system for that machine is OpenBSD. :) [22:02:13] <e^ipi> CosmicDJ, sparc. [22:02:21] <gronlund> hehe okey, latest version or something older ? [22:02:24] <CosmicDJ> milax runs on sparc IIRC [22:02:30] <e^ipi> really? neato [22:02:48] <Cobra-the-joker> i have 512 MB ram too :D [22:02:56] <e^ipi> gronlund, you will have a much less painful time if you just did an old machine with a gig of ram out of the trash [22:03:00] <e^ipi> any x86 piece of junk should do [22:03:11] *** jacobs has joined #opensolaris [22:03:13] <gronlund> what openBSD version ? [22:03:31] <CosmicDJ> uhm the latest? :) [22:03:34] <BillyCrook1> DO NOT WANT [22:03:54] *** KernelKat has quit IRC [22:03:57] <Cobra-the-joker> i heard that sun computers rox [22:04:03] <gronlund> CosmicDJ are you sure ? 512mb ram.. shouldn't an older version be easier for it ? [22:04:06] <e^ipi> Cobra-the-joker, some do [22:04:07] <Cobra-the-joker> better than IBM compatible [22:04:17] <e^ipi> the u5/u10 is totally garbage though [22:04:25] <CosmicDJ> gronlund: openbsd != slowlaris [22:04:28] <Cobra-the-joker> lol [22:04:32] <gronlund> haha [22:04:36] <Cobra-the-joker> coz its very old [22:04:55] <h3sp4wn> Is Solaris 10 + CDE not useable on 512MB ram (with ufs) when I managed ultra 5's they ran Solaris 2.6 mostly though [22:04:57] <e^ipi> if you can get them with enough ram, and you put a SCSI / SAS controller that works in them they're vaguely acceptable but you're better off spending $10 on an old pentium3 machine [22:05:06] <bda> Yeah, it's really not worth running that system. Power costs alone. :) [22:05:44] <e^ipi> U60, U80, blade xx00 ( not 150/100 ) are all great machines [22:06:15] <e^ipi> 5, 10, b100, b150 were all super low end things whose best purpose are as dumb terminals to bigger machines [22:06:50] *** pgr has joined #opensolaris [22:07:05] <gronlund> im sorry, im new to sun computers.. does the "ULTRA" mean x64 ? [22:07:41] <e^ipi> only recently... [22:07:46] <e^ipi> usually it means UltraSPARC [22:08:03] <gronlund> yeah but what is my machine? 32 or 64 ? it should be 32 right ? [22:08:30] <e^ipi> no, ultrasparc is by definition 64 bit [22:08:41] <gronlund> so.. my really really old machine is 64bit ? [22:08:45] <gronlund> that doesnt make sense [22:08:58] <e^ipi> why doesn't that make sense? [22:09:07] <e^ipi> sun's been doing 64 bit for a /long/ time [22:09:10] <bda> 1995. [22:09:18] <gronlund> wow.. [22:09:21] <gronlund> i had no idea.. ^^ [22:09:54] <CosmicDJ> hm wikipedia states 1993... [22:10:03] <Cobra-the-joker> you have a 64 bit ....CONGRATULATIONS !!you have won with us [22:10:07] <CosmicDJ> "SPARC Version 9, the 64-bit SPARC architecture, was released by SPARC International in 1993" [22:10:08] <bda> "SPARC was initially a 32-bit architecture until the introduction of the SPARC V9 architecture in 1995, which added 64-bit extensions." [22:10:13] <bda> Well. [22:10:18] <bda> That's what you get for trusting wikipedia. [22:10:18] <bda> :) [22:10:39] *** microchip_ has quit IRC [22:10:40] <CosmicDJ> maybe that was the "draft", and 1995 was the first 64bit cpu shipped [22:11:22] <h3sp4wn> ultra 5's were ok as webservers ~10 years ago (with external disk boxes if necessary) if cost was at all important [22:12:42] *** hsp has joined #opensolaris [22:14:00] <alanc> SPARC International was the standards body, so that would be the specification/standard in 1993, followed by chips, which would be followed by full systems in 1995 [22:14:34] <alanc> and SPARC wasn't the first 64-bit - Alpha was there a few years earlier [22:16:43] <jamesd> alanc, actually i think mips had the first 64bit chips.. [22:16:49] *** BillyCrook1 has left #opensolaris [22:16:58] <alanc> forgot about them [22:17:13] <alanc> and I'm sure there were others too [22:17:25] <alanc> don't remember when Power hit 64-bit, think it was after SPARC though [22:17:35] <alanc> pretty much everyone got to 64-bit before x86 did [22:17:53] *** microchip_ has joined #opensolaris [22:18:37] <jbk> well partically because intel wanted to push the itanic [22:20:22] <Cobra-the-joker> isnt 32-bit more popular than 32-bit [22:20:35] <Cobra-the-joker> i meen 32 popular than 64 :D [22:20:43] <Cobra-the-joker> ??? [22:21:47] <jamesd> not this century [22:21:47] *** ryankrizan has joined #opensolaris [22:21:49] <e^ipi> define popular [22:21:50] <ryankrizan> hm [22:21:51] <CosmicDJ> IIRC the embedded market is much bigger than the desktop/server market; but I have no idea what they're running? 16bit? 32bit? [22:22:03] <ryankrizan> I installed VirtualBox, now I can't figure out how to uninstall it [22:22:10] <ryankrizan> Could someone assist me for a minute or two please? [22:22:20] <e^ipi> ryankrizan, man pkgrm [22:22:41] <e^ipi> unless you're on indiana ( the one with the livecd ), in which case, 'man pkg' [22:22:55] <e^ipi> the name of the package is SUNWvbox [22:22:58] <Cobra-the-joker> have bigger community and more ppl use it and know it [22:23:20] <ryankrizan> e^ipi, ah, thank you. [22:24:43] <alanc> wonder how long until you can't buy DIMMs smaller than 4gb and everyone will be 64-bit... [22:25:24] <alanc> found a bunch of 1Mb SIMMs the other day in a old pile of sun4c era parts - can't imagine finding those for sale new anywhere today [22:26:15] <jamesd> alanc, maybe for an embeded system or perhaps addons for a scsi board [22:28:21] *** dsoft has joined #opensolaris [22:29:05] <alanc> would probably just put that in CPU these days instead of a SIMM - I think all the cpu's in this room have more on-board L1/L2 cache than that [22:29:30] <alanc> or maybe put it in flash memory [22:29:56] <jamesd> alanc, what no cellerons or u5/u10's or even a blade 100/150 have less [22:30:27] <alanc> there's a U10 in the corner, hasn't been plugged in since I moved into the office - debating whether to leave it out for the recycling sweep this week [22:30:56] <alanc> still thought it had at least 1mb cache though [22:31:16] <jamesd> only the 440mhz ones had more than 512 iirc [22:31:38] *** vmlemon_ has quit IRC [22:31:55] *** Fish- has quit IRC [22:32:04] <alanc> this was a 333 or 360 I think - hardware handbook says those models had 2mb cache, only 300 had just the 512kb cache [22:32:36] <alanc> (I think the U5 came in some slower speeds that also had smaller caches that weren't available in the U10 form-factor) [22:33:40] <alanc> otherwise, this room has a SB2500, two opterons, a mobile athlon64 and a pentium 4 in - though the laptop with the P4 has a hardware failure and hasn't booted in a couple years [22:34:24] *** ryankrizan has quit IRC [22:35:26] *** petenix has joined #opensolaris [22:35:48] <petenix> is there a way to check to see if my hardware is available in the *latest* biweekly builds? [22:36:06] <petenix> everything important works on one machine except a Via Technologies VT6102 [Rhine-II] NIC [22:37:14] <bda> You could boot the latest OpenSolaris dev build and check with the Hardware Detection Tool Thing that comes on the LiveCD. [22:37:41] <petenix> ah, according to the HCL on the website, there is a driver available here -> http://homepage2.nifty.com/mrym3/taiyodo/eng/ [22:37:59] <bda> Or that. :) [22:41:16] *** Odin- has joined #opensolaris [22:41:43] *** Tpenta has joined #opensolaris [22:42:00] *** fr4g_ has quit IRC [22:42:07] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Tpenta [22:51:24] *** mikl has joined #opensolaris [22:52:09] *** Animal-X has quit IRC [22:54:54] *** rv- has joined #opensolaris [22:55:39] *** gronlund has quit IRC [22:59:07] <CIA-58> Michael Speer <Michael.Speer at Sun dot COM>: 6760422 kstat panics the system in nxge:nxge_rdc_stat_update, 6763912 fix for 6608205 is not correct [22:59:41] *** h3sp4wn has quit IRC [23:01:40] <Macabee> is there a flash player with solaris? [23:01:55] <gothos> Hey, I've configured a few printers with cups, but they do not show up in the print menu (File -> Print) any ideas how to fix this? [23:01:56] <Macabee> sorry - OpenSolaris [23:02:39] <MindDrive> http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html - latest beta for Flash 10, Macabee. [23:02:45] *** hsp has quit IRC [23:02:57] <MindDrive> The latest Flash 9 release will also work just fine with OpenSolaris [23:03:30] <Macabee> thanks MindDrive [23:04:49] *** h3sp4wn has joined #opensolaris [23:05:57] *** netj has joined #opensolaris [23:08:21] *** LordIllpalazo has quit IRC [23:09:35] *** pjfloyd has left #opensolaris [23:11:13] <TrogL> does Sun still sell the T2000? [23:11:48] <Stric> yes [23:11:50] <Stric> and T1000 [23:12:02] <bda> Is store.sun.com broken? 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Bad PBR sig [23:33:57] <petenix> is there an easy way to associate the new driver I have with my NIC? [23:33:57] <throwt> any specific error messages, dusanyu ? [23:33:59] <flip> what gives????? [23:34:06] <throwt> petenix: add_drv [23:34:34] <dusanyu> does not give any output [23:35:12] <dusanyu> probably not seeing my nvidia chipset SATA [23:35:36] <throwt> flip: i dont know for sure, but try googling 'bad PBR sig' [23:35:55] <flip> ive been for days [23:35:57] <flip> :( :( [23:36:02] <throwt> reinstall grub [23:36:03] *** TrogL has quit IRC [23:36:10] <flip> furthermote... opensolaris 200805 wont install either [23:36:27] <flip> on boot the dvd hangs at a maintence password prompt [23:36:32] <flip> and wont go any further [23:36:42] <flip> says it cant start login console or something like that [23:36:43] <throwt> huh strange [23:36:46] <flip> throwt: yea [23:36:51] <flip> throwt: ive booted from the dvd before [23:36:53] <flip> and run installgrub [23:36:56] <throwt> 3 minutes before you came in somebody said this [23:36:57] <throwt> 18:31 < dusanyu> Hello Having A small issue with the Live CD it probes device nodes than [23:37:00] <throwt> requests System states Console Longin Service(s) cant run than goes into [23:37:03] <throwt> Maintnance password [23:37:16] <flip> thats exactly what happens to me [23:37:23] <flip> i found out this has to do w/ a sata optical drive [23:37:29] <flip> on motherboards w/ nvidia chipsets [23:37:38] <throwt> thats what dusanyu supposed [23:37:40] <flip> and can be resolved by using a regular ata cdrom [23:37:46] <flip> i read it... havent tried it [23:37:56] <flip> because i really wanted sxce to be consistant w/ my other machines [23:38:00] <dusanyu> ah now that makes sence i have a SATA optical drive [23:38:10] <flip> ive been trying for days now :F [23:38:28] <flip> i can install grub OK but when i reboot [23:38:31] <flip> it hangs at the grub> prompt [23:38:35] <flip> theres no menu.lst installed [23:38:48] <flip> i can boot solaris w/ like hd (0,0,a) kernel$ and module$ [23:38:50] <throwt> is there some bios compatabilityi option? [23:38:54] <flip> but it instantly craps itself [23:39:00] <flip> and starts a trace [23:39:02] <flip> uhh not sure? [23:39:16] <flip> im sure your framiliar w/ the zfs home fileserver whatchamacallit article? [23:39:19] * flip find url [23:39:31] <throwt> see if there is a compatability option in the bios. but this is just a shot in the dark [23:39:41] <flip> http://breden.org.uk/2008/03/02/a-home-fileserver-using-zfs/ [23:39:51] <flip> i built this box pretty much to these exact specs... part #'s and all [23:39:58] <flip> to try and emulate what he accomplished [23:40:05] <flip> i ahvent actually BUILT a pc in almost 10 years lol [23:41:01] <flip> the STRANGE part about this --- is that this disk had debian on it a half hour ago [23:41:04] <flip> w/ working grub [23:41:10] <flip> and i installed sxce... and i got the bad pbr sig [23:41:15] <flip> so it didnt just not instsall grub [23:41:21] <flip> it erased the linux installs grub [23:41:26] <flip> and then forgot to install its own? [23:41:29] <throwt> this is kinda crappy, but try zeroing that out [23:41:29] <flip> its real real wierd [23:41:34] <flip> did that [23:41:37] *** AxeZ has quit IRC [23:41:38] <flip> ran dd for like an hour :F [23:41:50] <flip> on the entire disk anywhich way i know how [23:41:52] <flip> no change [23:42:14] <dusanyu> found the bug [23:42:17] <dusanyu> http://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do?bug_id=6595488 [23:42:37] *** microchip_ has quit IRC [23:42:53] *** microchip_ has joined #opensolaris [23:42:58] <throwt> only took a year to implement that support [23:43:15] <Yorlik> Where can I get the files for the opensolaris kerberos project ? [23:44:30] <flip> ok [23:44:44] <flip> booting 200805 dvd on ata dvdrom now [23:44:54] <flip> sata dvd unplugged [23:44:56] <flip> lets see what happens [23:45:56] <flip> Probing for device nodes ... [23:45:57] <flip> this is normal [23:46:07] <flip> after this it usually fails and starts asking for the maint password [23:47:28] <throwt> looks like you will need a newer solaris snapshot. according to the bug kindly pasted by dusanyu snv_95+, [23:47:45] <flip> ahh [23:47:48] <flip> ya this is 86 [23:47:54] <flip> where can i get a newer build? [23:47:57] <flip> genunix? [23:48:20] <throwt> from opensolaris.org, but i can tell you the link in a min [23:48:26] <throwt> http://opensolaris.org/os/downloads/sol_ex_dvd_1/ [23:49:04] <flip> thats a link to sxce snv_99 [23:49:07] <flip> isnt it? [23:49:09] <throwt> yes [23:49:19] <flip> thats whats giving me the bad pbr sig lol [23:49:23] <trygvis> if I'm creating a .pkg that run on all platforms, what should I put in ARCH? "all"? [23:49:23] <flip> ive been trying to install it for days [23:49:50] <throwt> ah interesting [23:49:52] <h3sp4wn> flip: The only way to use that build with nvidia sata is to take the nvidia sata driver from b98 [23:50:07] <flip> im not trying to use nvidia sata [23:50:13] <flip> i have a sata hard drive [23:50:22] <flip> but i also have a ata dvdrom [23:50:24] <flip> not sata [23:50:49] <e^ipi> "i am doing something unsupported and it isn't working properly. what gives?" [23:52:05] <flip> so i cant use sata devices w/ build snv_99? [23:52:08] <flip> thats not supported? [23:52:08] <h3sp4wn> flip: nForce 570 SLI chipset [23:52:25] *** pgr has quit IRC [23:52:26] <h3sp4wn> unless you are using the jmicron port that means you are using nvidia sata [23:52:42] <flip> jmicron [23:52:54] <flip> not framiliar w/ what that is [23:53:01] <flip> but its listed as sata_raid i think on the motherboard [23:53:19] <h3sp4wn> Its one of the 7 ports but generally considered to be crap [23:53:32] <flip> ya not using it [23:53:49] <flip> i WAS using sata 1 boot disk, sata 2 dvdrom [23:53:53] <flip> didnt work.. [23:54:03] <flip> ive since moved to sata 1 boot disk, IDE dvdrom [23:54:05] <flip> still not working [23:54:06] <flip> :F [23:54:22] <h3sp4wn> That didn't work since b70b (both sata) [23:54:37] <flip> not sure what b70b is sorry [23:55:03] <h3sp4wn> An ancient now release of SXDE before there was native nvidia sata support [23:55:11] *** timeless has quit IRC [23:55:13] <e^ipi> sata devices, absolutely. sata cdroms, still flaky [23:55:14] <flip> wait since... soo in b99 it doesnt work? [23:55:21] <flip> because thast what im using [23:55:27] <flip> and now sata hdd, ide dvdrom [23:56:31] <h3sp4wn> b99 totally will not work the only way I got it working was by putting the driver from b98 back (50/50 whether I should have done it at all but some other xvm bugs were fixed that I really wanted fixing) [23:57:43] <flip> ok [23:57:53] <flip> where can i get b98 sxce iso then? [23:58:54] <dusanyu> so open solarus suffers the things being broken in later relices bug that drove me away from Ubuntu [23:59:11] <CIA-58> Krishnendu Sadhukhan - Sun Microsystems <Krishnendu.Sadhukhan at Sun dot COM>: 6755317 "dmake modlist" fails for core_pcbe [23:59:36] <h3sp4wn> dusanyu: switching to a new compiler has issues for everyone as far as I can see [23:59:47] <e^ipi> dusanyu, no, it suffers that things occasionally break in the barely tested bleeding edge bits. [23:59:57] <e^ipi> if you want solid support, S10.