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[00:18:37] <kim0> which tool would list PCI devices with names (nvidia card, marvel nic ... etc) ?
[00:19:44] <alanc> kim0: /usr/X11/bin/scanpci
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[00:20:20] <kim0> alanc umm .. anything that's not X dependent
[00:20:34] <kim0> we don't ship X on our servers
[00:20:38] <kim0> any simpler tool ?
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[00:20:48] <alanc> kim0: it's a command line tool - doesn't run X, just shares PCI scanning code with Xorg
[00:21:06] <kim0> alanc but installing it pulls X right ?
[00:21:20] <alanc> if you don't have the packages at all, then I don't think anything in the OS does mappings like that
[00:21:30] <alanc> prtconf prints driver names and such
[00:21:56] <kim0> but not human readable card names
[00:21:57] <alanc> we're splitting scanpci out of X soon (probably build 103), will be /usr/bin/scanpci and not pull in the X server with it
[00:22:10] <kim0> huraay
[00:22:27] <alanc> there's scripts available on the net to parse prtconf and convert to human readable driver names
[00:22:57] <alanc> like http://www.tools.de/page_attachments/0000/0963/prtpci.bz2
[00:23:04] <kim0> I don't want "driver" names. ... I need card IDs .. like "Nvidia Quadro pro 9776"
[00:23:16] <kim0> ah ... thanks
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[00:24:43] <kim0> alanc seems like "prtconf -pv" gets the names too ... have to test that when I get to my box
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[00:33:18] <cloud-e> Alanc, is there a site that gives a video tutorial on (Open)Solaris for noobs that you know of? Or even a break down on the user interface and customization of (Open)Solaris on a good pdf or web text based tutorial?
[00:33:49] <alanc> cloud-e: sorry, I don't know of any off hand
[00:34:04] <cloud-e> Alanc, np man ty.
[00:34:17] <alanc> opensolaris.com has text documentation, but I don't know about videos
[00:35:39] <alanc> looks like there might be some video links on http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/documentation/
[00:36:43] <cloud-e> Alanc, I am already enrolled in this course thought it seems to tought the internal mechanics of windows and give a technical overview. http://www.sun.com/training/catalog/operating_systems/WS-1000-OS.html
[00:36:58] <cloud-e> Alanc, thx very much!
[00:37:47] <cloud-e> Not windows I meant OpenSolaris when compared to windows. GAH! My brain was thinking 2 things at once. Whoops!
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[00:47:49] <mib_ov855w> yah
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[00:59:11] <CIA-57> Norm Jacobs <Norm.Jacobs at Sun dot COM>: 6717444 Unable to add printer.
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[01:03:40] <Ender2070> hey guys
[01:03:47] <Ender2070> anyone know if realtek 8211 will be supported?
[01:03:55] <Ender2070> thats the lan chipset on my M3N78-VM
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[01:06:53] <kim0> Can someone help with the difference between "iscsiadm list target" and "iscsitadm list target" ? (hint the t) ?
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[01:25:01] <cloud-e> Ender: http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl/data/sol/
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[01:25:21] <Ender2070> ty
[01:25:28] <Ender2070> couldnt find the hcl
[01:25:28] <cloud-e> np
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[01:29:33] <Ender2070> my connection sucks :(
[01:31:37] <Ender2070> its not in the list, damn
[01:31:52] <Ender2070> anyway i can help get it in?
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[01:35:24] <euzao> how is OpenSolaris development now?
[01:41:55] <cloud-e> Ender, I would recommend trying a virtualbox install of another OS platform. I know for sure that Windows Xp, Ubuntu and OpenSuse all use that Realtek driver. It may be annoying to play music from your virtual machine but the other alternative is to order another sound card.
[01:42:41] <cloud-e> OpenSolaris team is working hard on porting more drivers, so stay tuned.
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[01:45:47] <bigjohnto> if i do a dd bs=10368 skip=130000 count=1 .... does the bs affect the skip number? will skip no longer be 130000 bytes?
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[01:56:18] <RavenSlay3r> (ex)G/F: "If my laptop processor is dying, do I need to replace the entire laptop?"
[01:56:19] <Ender2070> oh, the realtek 8211 is a lan card
[01:56:35] <Ender2070> gigabit
[01:56:36] <RavenSlay3r> Me: "Bad new, yes - good news, your wrong! ...
[01:58:31] <RavenSlay3r> "... Don't worry, we can install solaris and everything will be ok, ;)"
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[02:18:27] <blahee> Ender2070: my M3N78-VM does have integrated NVidia gigabit LAN in it
[02:19:02] <blahee> (as in Asus M3N78-VM that is)
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[02:29:29] <topgun17> Does any one know how to fix mono sound after installing open Sound Ssytem
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[02:31:30] <MindDrive> How to fix it?
[02:31:45] <topgun17> 3yes MindDrive
[02:32:30] <MindDrive> To be more explicit: what do you mean by "fix" here?  Get it to work?  Or that it's only doing mono and you want stereo?
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[02:33:27] <topgun17> MindDrive: I am only gettting sound out of my right speaker and not both right and left?
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[02:34:48] <MindDrive> Okay, so the latter... while I do use OSS on my desktop, I haven't run into that issue myself.  Unless someone else here has, your best bet may be to do a Google search... or even better, contact 4Front Technologies.
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[02:50:39] <topgun17> MindDrive: I figured it out i had to balance the volume.
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[02:58:51] <topgun17> list
[02:59:27] <MindDrive> Good to hear, Topgun
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[03:05:40] <desp> I have a slight problem
[03:05:41] <desp> ld.so.1: ld: fatal: libld.so.4: version `SUNWprivate_4.2' not found (required by file /usr/bin/ld)
[03:05:58] <desp> This is when trying to link any C exe.
[03:06:14] <desp> Executable.  That didn't come out right.
[03:06:15] <desp> :)
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[03:15:57] <mib_ysg859> I just slapped a bunch of new drives in my snv_72 box and rebooted, but it doesn't appear to be recognizing them
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[03:22:11] <jamesd> mib_ysg859, did you run   devfsadm -v
[03:23:33] <mib_ysg859> I just did
[03:23:41] <mib_ysg859> still not seeing them
[03:24:22] <mib_ysg859> I'm not sure what channel they ended up on
[03:24:41] <mib_ysg859> will running cfgadm -c configure hurt/
[03:24:41] <mib_ysg859> ?
[03:25:21] <jamesd> not that  i know of.. but i have never had to do it on x86
[03:25:35] <mib_ysg859> hmm, ok
[03:25:51] <jamesd> and really unless you have a fibre card it shouldn't be necessary on sparc... at least i have never had to
[03:26:10] <mib_ysg859> nope, SAS drives on x86
[03:26:37] <jamesd> then  devfsadm  should fix it...   did you run  format to look for the drives
[03:26:48] <mib_ysg859> yeah
[03:26:54] <jamesd> are they on a supported controller?
[03:27:00] <mib_ysg859> perhaps i need to drop down to the bios
[03:27:09] <mib_ysg859> same controller the current drives are on
[03:27:29] <jamesd> while you are doing that might as well  do   reboot -- -r
[03:27:47] <mib_ysg859> what's that do?
[03:28:16] <jamesd> it does a full reconfigure of devices when it comes back up
[03:28:36] <mib_ysg859> unfortunately i'm in the middle of a rather large zfs send/recv so it might be a while :P
[03:28:58] <mib_ysg859> no risk of reboot -- -r breaking things?
[03:30:01] <jamesd> no, it just rescans for hardware and reconigure devices, i guess it could be possible for ZFS to get confused but  exporting it then importing it should fix things
[03:30:18] <mib_ysg859> k
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[03:59:07] <CIA-57> Susan Gleeson <Susan.Gleeson at Sun dot COM>: 6728986 mmsadm: "Received invalid response from ACSLS server" during library configuration
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[04:13:51] <jbk> evening
[04:16:05] <sstallion> heya jbk
[04:16:11] <sstallion> have a second for me to run something byt you ?
[04:16:26] <jbk> sure
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[04:18:03] <sstallion> finished up rx last night. working on tx now
[04:18:36] <sstallion> trying to think of the best way to manage tx buffers
[04:18:43] <jbk> heh
[04:18:54] <sstallion> ?
[04:18:55] <jbk> is this a slower interface?
[04:18:58] <sstallion> yeah
[04:19:32] <jbk> just create some precreated buffers and use those
[04:19:42] <sstallion> PIO :/
[04:19:55] <jbk> hmm
[04:20:01] <sstallion> ran the numbers
[04:20:10] <sstallion> I should be able to support 10 buckets at max packet size
[04:20:29] <sstallion> so I'm thinking of just creating a ring and maintaining a next pointer and track the number of buckets in use
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[04:43:43] <Tilt> how about tonight.... anybody that wants to take a look at the error pkg keeps giving me ?
[04:43:54] <Tilt> ;)
[04:44:57] <Tilt> i don't get what i may have done to have broken it, i've installed no python packages or anything.... all i did was update from 98 to 99
[04:54:06] <victori_> updated ipkg only and python is broken now?
[04:54:10] <victori_> best to do a full image-update
[04:54:17] <victori_> noticed ipkg/python deps break all the time
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[05:04:52] <sstallion> bleh
[05:04:53] * sstallion debates symmetry over space
[05:04:54] <sstallion> 8 x 2048 or 10 x 1536
[05:05:00] <sstallion> (with 1024b of waste)
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[05:22:19] <bradd> hi. am I safe making links in /home to /export/home?
[05:25:07] <jamesd> bradd http://uadmin.blogspot.com/2005/02/youre-never-far-from-home.html
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[05:25:21] <bradd> thanks
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[05:59:08] <CIA-57> Matthew Jacob <Matthew.Jacob at Sun dot COM>: 6739333 error(1) has been broken for a while- simple fix
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[06:22:36] <brianski> hmm is there a 2008.05 iso for sparc, or am i right that it's x86 only?
[06:23:31] <brianski> or, more to the point, i have a new-to-me sparc, how should i go about installing on it?
[06:23:38] <cloud-e> Hello... I am trying to get my mp3 to work in 2008.5 release. I read in the forum that I had to download the fluendo mp3 streamer and then copy it to the usr/lib/gstreamer0.10 folder but when I do I get an error. Is there an easier way to get this to work via a repository or command line?
[06:23:57] <brianski> cloud-e: what does the error say?
[06:24:40] <cloud-e> Brian, error copying to usr/lib You do not have permissions to write to this folder.
[06:25:06] <brianski> cloud-e: this problem is easy to fix
[06:25:13] <brianski> were you trying to copy it on the command line?
[06:25:23] <brianski> if so, type "pfexec cp ..." instead of "cp ..." and all will be well
[06:25:31] <cloud-e> ahhh
[06:25:36] <cloud-e> One sec
[06:25:38] <cloud-e> brb
[06:25:50] <brianski> pfexec is like sudo on osx/ubuntu, if you're familiar with it.
[06:28:55] <cloud-e> Brian, this is what I typed in terminal.. pfexec cp fluendo-mp3-4.solaris-intel/libgstflump3dec.so /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10
[06:29:16] <brianski> right, that should work
[06:29:21] <cloud-e> I received this error.. pfexec cp fluendo-mp3-4.solaris-intel/libgstflump3dec.so /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10
[06:29:28] <cloud-e> woops
[06:29:29] <cloud-e> crap
[06:29:36] <bradd> cloud-e, if you want the codec for only a certain user, you can put it in ~/.gstreamer-0.10/plugins
[06:29:43] <cloud-e> cp: cannot stat `fluendo-mp3-4.solaris-intel': No such file or directory
[06:30:04] <brianski> cloud-e: it can't find the file you are trying to copy
[06:30:20] <cloud-e> Right
[06:30:28] <brianski> did you extract the archive in the right directory?
[06:30:31] <cloud-e> I am wondering why though :(
[06:31:08] <bradd> cloud-e, when I untarred the other day, it gave me a codec/ dir
[06:31:17] <cloud-e> Hmm
[06:31:26] <cloud-e> I think the extraction may be the issue.
[06:31:31] <cloud-e> I tarred to my desktop
[06:31:47] <cloud-e> Let me try to tarr out to the gstreamer folder directly...
[06:31:48] <cloud-e> brb
[06:31:51] <brianski> cloud-e: in all seriousness, if this is tripping you up, you're not going to have a good time using OS as a primary os
[06:32:28] <cloud-e> :p
[06:35:38] <cloud-e> Brain, you may be right but that is no reason to quit chucking away at it.
[06:36:03] <cloud-e> I tried to tarr out to the gstreamer folder and it gave me this error.. /usr/sfw/bin/gtar: codecs: Cannot mkdir: Permission denied
[06:36:04] <cloud-e> /usr/sfw/bin/gtar: codecs/libgstflump3dec.so: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[06:36:04] <cloud-e> /usr/sfw/bin/gtar: README.txt: Cannot open: Permission denied
[06:36:04] <cloud-e> /usr/sfw/bin/gtar: LICENSE.txt: Cannot open: Permission denied
[06:36:04] <cloud-e> /usr/sfw/bin/gtar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[06:36:26] <cloud-e> Wait this error... /usr/sfw/bin/gtar: codecs: Cannot mkdir: Permission denied
[06:36:26] <cloud-e> /usr/sfw/bin/gtar: codecs/libgstflump3dec.so: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[06:36:26] <cloud-e> /usr/sfw/bin/gtar: README.txt: Cannot open: Permission denied
[06:36:26] <cloud-e> /usr/sfw/bin/gtar: LICENSE.txt: Cannot open: Permission denied
[06:36:26] <cloud-e> /usr/sfw/bin/gtar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[06:36:29] <cloud-e> Sorry.
[06:37:17] <cloud-e> I am thinking I could just go into users and groups and give myself permissions there.
[06:37:25] <cloud-e> .shrug.
[06:37:40] <brianski> that would also work
[06:38:00] <brianski> wait
[06:38:08] <brianski> what directory are you in?
[06:38:15] <brianski> you want to be in your home directory when you extract that file
[06:38:42] <brianski> if you don't have acess to your home directory, you've got some serious weirdness going on, pfexec chown user ~user
[06:39:58] <cloud-e> Brian, I can access my home dir... I am not really sure why I can not get to do basic admin privileges. I did just install the OS today.
[06:40:11] <cloud-e> Maybe I already fudged it up?
[06:40:13] <cloud-e> lol
[06:40:49] <cloud-e> Brian, are you saying to extract those files to my home directory?
[06:40:57] <cloud-e> Sorry if I am giving you a headache.
[06:40:58] <cloud-e> :(
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[06:45:05] <cloud-e> Brian, I appreciate it.
[06:45:22] <cloud-e> You tried :D... gonna keep at it.
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[06:53:25] <brianski> cloud-e: try pfexec chown <username> ~<username>
[06:53:33] <brianski> substituting <username> for your username, of course
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[06:53:48] * brianski new sparc isn't bootin, hrrm
[06:54:44] <brianski> or mebbe it just doesn't dig my monitor
[06:57:37] <cloud-e> Brian, sorry I was afk. I?l try that right now.
[06:57:44] <qiyong> does solaris offically support pxe boot ?
[06:58:22] <brianski> wtf, this thing has no ethernet?
[07:05:10] <qiyong> brianski: ?
[07:05:22] <qiyong> btw, what's interface pcn0?
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[07:08:17] <_mary_kate_> qiyong: AMD PCnet
[07:08:40] <_mary_kate_> qiyong: and yes, you can use PXE to boot and install on x86
[07:08:54] <brianski> qiyong: just talkin about a machine i have here. never mind me
[07:08:54] <_mary_kate_> (on sparc you can use dhcp+tftp, which is effectively the same as far as server setup goes)
[07:09:00] <qiyong> _mary_kate_: where to get the pxe boot loader and the kernel image?
[07:09:14] <qiyong> _mary_kate_: amd pcnet is kindof network interface card?
[07:09:17] <_mary_kate_> qiyong: look at the add_install_client script in the Tools/ directory
[07:09:21] <_mary_kate_> (on the DVD)
[07:09:22] <brianski> is it reasonable to expect a sun blade 1500 workstation would have a serial console enabled?
[07:09:38] <_mary_kate_> brianski: yes, if you unplug the keyboard.  but it's possible the previous owner forced it to text console
[07:09:55] <cloud-e> One day I will be able to afford a SPARC machine. :(
[07:10:04] <_mary_kate_> qiyong: yes, PCnet is a 100Mbps Ethernet interface
[07:10:06] <brianski> _mary_kate_: vice versa is what i'm pondering
[07:10:11] <brianski> as i have no video out
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[07:12:46] <stevenahle> hello i have some questions about sun solaris.,,
[07:13:24] <stevenahle> is anybody available to chat at the moment?
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[07:36:22] <qiyong> anyone can provide a shell account ?
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[08:04:28] <e^ipi> qiyong: it's a liveCD
[08:04:31] <e^ipi> just download, and ues
[08:04:32] <e^ipi> *use
[08:05:06] <qiyong> e^ipi: do you have a running host?
[08:05:11] <e^ipi> yes, several
[08:05:26] <qiyong> can I access one for short period?
[08:05:32] <e^ipi> absolutely not
[08:05:39] <e^ipi> download the livecd, and use your own machine
[08:05:50] <qiyong> i can't burn cd today
[08:06:19] <e^ipi> so use the virtualbox image
[08:06:24] <e^ipi> use a virtual machine
[08:07:13] <qiyong> vb is f*cking slloww
[08:08:03] <e^ipi> well, compromises work like that
[08:08:23] <e^ipi> tell me, in what world does it make sense for me to give an untrusted random person a login on my machines?
[08:08:43] <e^ipi> you have several choices: virtual machine, livecd, or you can use amazon AWS to spin up your image for you
[08:08:50] <e^ipi> costs $0.10/hour
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[08:11:27] <e^ipi> there are plenty of ways to solve the problem, but your unwillingness to try any of them suggests to me that the most charitable conclusion is that you are a spammer in which case just go die in a fire
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[08:22:36] <e^ipi> i guess there's an appropriate way to deal with that situation
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[08:44:16] <trygvis> I'm having issues using zlogin to run commands in a linux branded zone
[08:44:26] <trygvis> I'm getting "su: permission denied"
[08:46:29] <trygvis> both with lx and lx26 branded zones
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[08:47:21] <trygvis> works fine from the command line
[08:50:29] <e^ipi> sounds a lot like a linux setup problem
[08:50:59] <trygvis> very well might be
[08:51:09] <trygvis> I'm running debian in the zone
[08:52:05] <e^ipi> *shrug*
[08:52:19] <e^ipi> redhat or centos are the recommended config
[08:52:45] <trygvis> I know, but I need dpkg
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[09:04:20] <mib_ysg859> is there any issue doing a zfs send from snv_72 to snv_99?
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[10:22:53] <maccampus> hello
[10:23:39] <maccampus> what is the diference between openSolaris & SXCE ? What version is best suited for end user, non developer ?
[10:23:58] <maccampus> Which is the newest ?
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[10:24:38] <maccampus> Hey Coldsun
[10:24:50] <maccampus> hello
[10:24:51] <maccampus> [10:24] maccampus: what is the diference between openSolaris & SXCE ? What version is best suited for end user, non developer ?
[10:24:51] <maccampus> [10:25] maccampus: Which is the newest ?
[10:25:16] <xRaich[o]2x> SXCE is more old-school solaris. opensolaris has a bit of linux flavour
[10:25:35] <xRaich[o]2x> both are up-to-date
[10:26:31] <xRaich[o]2x> well not totally up to date since ON 101 came out but they are both build 99
[10:26:35] <x58> As a FreeBSD user I feel more at home in OpenSolaris than SXCE.
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[10:27:05] <x58> mainly because old school unix command line tools are much harder to get used to than the GNU based ones.
[10:27:27] <maccampus> So SXCE will become Solaris 11 & OpenSolaris will stay openSolaris ( a linux based Open source Solaris ) ?
[10:27:30] <xRaich[o]2x> Same goes for me, I've been using Linux for over a decade. I feel very at home in OpenSolaris
[10:27:43] <maccampus> i'm a OS X (BSD) user
[10:28:06] <coldsun> Hello
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[10:28:28] <xRaich[o]2x> i actually threw out the gnu tools and replaced them with the solaris tools. I don't feel that they are harder to handle.
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[10:28:51] <coldsun> Can somebody help me?
[10:29:15] <maccampus> Slo on rhe opensol site i read about many other distro's, what are those ?
[10:29:38] <maccampus> i mean : Belenix , Milax , Nexenta, Schillix
[10:29:39] <xRaich[o]2x> coldsun: only if you ask a proper question. then someone who knows the answer might help you
[10:29:58] <coldsun> I have simple question
[10:30:06] <coldsun> I'm novice at Solaris
[10:30:13] <mib_ysg859> ask it!
[10:30:21] <coldsun> How can I edit PATH variable?
[10:30:30] <xRaich[o]2x> depends on the shell you are using
[10:30:43] <xRaich[o]2x> bash edit ~/.bashrc
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[10:32:05] <maccampus> i have dl'ed all builds & received the OpenSolars DVD
[10:32:34] <maccampus> i installed thr last in virtualbox OSX & it worked
[10:32:51] <maccampus> but when i updated all packeges
[10:33:02] <coldsun> cannot execute binary file
[10:33:11] <maccampus> something went wrong & now it doesn't boot
[10:33:44] <xRaich[o]2x> coldsun: dude.... just use an editor and edit the file
[10:33:45] <xRaich[o]2x> that wasn't a command ;)
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[10:33:56] <maccampus> now before i retry i want to kno which build-distro to choose
[10:34:12] <mib_ysg859> i'd use the dvd
[10:34:14] <xRaich[o]2x> maccampus: regular answer: depends ;)
[10:34:28] <xRaich[o]2x> nexenta is ubuntu with solaris kernel
[10:34:35] <xRaich[o]2x> milax ist like damn small solaris
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[10:35:02] <coldsun> Thank you! xRaich[o]2x
[10:35:02] <xRaich[o]2x> afaik schillix tries to be 100% opensource
[10:35:44] <xRaich[o]2x> and belenix uses KDE as default desktop. and afaik they are planing to use conary as a package manager
[10:36:18] <maccampus> So Nexenta is Ubuntu with the OpenSol kernel whixch is a Linux kernel which makes it more ubuntu then Solaris ?
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[10:36:41] <mib_ysg859> tries to emulate ubuntu userland
[10:36:45] <maccampus> MilaX will miss some solaris expierience since it misses packages ?
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[10:37:20] <maccampus> Schillix will prolly be less stable , looks the same but uses diferent code
[10:37:53] <xRaich[o]2x> the best choices right now are belenix and opensolaris 2008.05
[10:38:34] <xRaich[o]2x> i'd wait for 2008.11 but if you can't wait. download the latest opensolaris build from geninux.org
[10:38:42] <xRaich[o]2x> genunix that is
[10:39:02] <maccampus> & Belenix uses KDE as gui (which actually is nice) but will change pack man which isn't a good plan really
[10:39:20] <maccampus> i already have 08.05
[10:39:36] <maccampus> both Solaris & OpenSolaris
[10:39:57] <maccampus> i have sxe b98 & b99
[10:40:18] <maccampus> & schillix, belenix, nexenta, milax
[10:40:30] <maccampus> belenix 0.7.1
[10:40:56] <xRaich[o]2x> i really depends on what you prefer and what your application is
[10:40:59] <xRaich[o]2x> it
[10:41:04] <xRaich[o]2x> dang... early in the morning...
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[10:41:48] <maccampus> well i'm really just want to try out a new OS & run it as a second os on my intel Mac
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[10:42:40] <xRaich[o]2x> then you just might go wild and try them all ;)
[10:42:45] <maccampus> if possible from external HD, bootable as primary OS & at the same time able to be used from a (free) virtualizer
[10:43:00] <maccampus> time man , time
[10:43:21] <mib_ysg859> you can upgrade 2008.05
[10:43:32] <xRaich[o]2x> i personally prefer opensolaris 2008.05 upgraded to the latest build
[10:43:38] <mib_ysg859> ditto
[10:43:40] <xRaich[o]2x> but again. that's just me
[10:43:44] <xRaich[o]2x> and him :P
[10:43:51] <maccampus> right
[10:44:09] <xRaich[o]2x> the good thing about is that you can test it from a livecd
[10:44:44] <maccampus> i must say OpenSol realle feld nice compared to Sol 10 u4, which i also tried earlier
[10:45:21] <maccampus> but it was hard to operate as simple things like adding users was a hard task
[10:45:41] <maccampus> i installzd Opensol from live cd 3 days ago
[10:45:53] <xRaich[o]2x> hm you can add them via GUI afaik. never did that though
[10:45:55] <maccampus> & t work fine after installed
[10:46:09] <maccampus> livecd was slow & pain in the butt though
[10:47:05] <maccampus> then i selected all updates in pack man & let it update
[10:47:07] <xRaich[o]2x> livecd is like driving a ferrari loaded with diesel
[10:47:25] <xRaich[o]2x> but it's ok if you just want to test some features
[10:47:43] <maccampus> when i returned it hung in screen saver & i had to hard reset
[10:47:54] <xRaich[o]2x> i tested dtrace and some other command and got hooked immediatly
[10:48:08] <maccampus> it was now hangin in single user mode
[10:48:11] <maccampus> dang
[10:48:32] <maccampus> all that was on OS X with SUN VirtualBox
[10:48:59] <xRaich[o]2x> i always update via CLI. i never trusted GUI package managers ^^
[10:49:36] <maccampus> okay, but that looks like a more difficult process to me
[10:49:49] <xRaich[o]2x> i hope the GUI will be a lot better in 2008.11. it had some issues
[10:49:59] <maccampus> not that i don,t want to learn, actually i need to learn
[10:50:02] <xRaich[o]2x> not really it's really simple
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[10:50:36] <maccampus> since i in the future like to do the same on Os X using for example Fink
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[10:50:48] <xRaich[o]2x> but the opensolaris distro is still work in progress. so things might go wrong.
[10:51:21] <xRaich[o]2x> when i had a mac i used darwinports and fink
[10:51:29] <maccampus> but same goes for sxe & all these oopensol based distro's
[10:51:40] <maccampus> both ?
[10:51:46] <xRaich[o]2x> yep
[10:51:56] <maccampus> i thought that was adviced against
[10:52:15] <maccampus> but it was possible being procautionous
[10:52:17] <xRaich[o]2x> dunno. it wasn't a problem back in the days
[10:52:39] <xRaich[o]2x> but that was like 2002
[10:52:56] <xRaich[o]2x> or 2003... dunno exactly
[10:53:14] <maccampus> DarwinPorts i prefere primary also ,butt afraid more info about fink to find for novice like me
[10:53:35] <maccampus> G4
[10:54:39] <maccampus> 2002 was 10.1.x - no ichat
[10:54:48] <xRaich[o]2x> dunno much about fink anymore. it's been a while and i don't use mac anymore
[10:55:06] <maccampus> 2003 was 10.2 & had the new then ichaat application
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[10:55:34] <xRaich[o]2x> I had jaguar and upgraded to panther later
[10:55:57] <maccampus> that must be 2003 & later then
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[10:56:25] <maccampus> i bought mine in 2002 & got 10.1.4
[10:56:47] <xRaich[o]2x> don't know the date anymore ;) just that the hardware constanly blew up on me
[10:56:55] <maccampus> then in september 2003 10.2 released at keynote in Paris
[10:57:09] <xRaich[o]2x> which was the reason i never bought a mac again
[10:57:28] <maccampus> too bad, i only has stable Macs
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[10:58:08] <xRaich[o]2x> i even know someone whose mac caught fire. those are the stories you don't want to hear ;)
[10:58:16] <maccampus> the only one that fails to boot is an old G3 tower i kept on expanding till it failed to work
[10:58:27] <maccampus> i read bad stories on the web
[10:58:45] <maccampus> even about somemodels i own, but i always was lucky
[10:59:14] <maccampus> & i sometimes do crazy stuff on them
[10:59:37] <xRaich[o]2x> well. my next laptop will be a thinkpad. fugly but functional
[11:00:18] <tynar_> i tried to write some basic service applications on my solaris box, now i am unable to run the machine. Gives an error of " Console login service(s) cannot run'. What might be the reason and how to fix them? Any ideas?
[11:00:34] <maccampus> like forcing a firmware update when it's not supposed too & do crazy stuff in openfirmware which i didn't fully understand but i trusted the source of the info more
[11:01:53] <maccampus> but i do think Apple is making bad dissicions from users perspective
[11:02:30] <maccampus> now with the intel we lost classic & will soon loose carbon
[11:03:02] <xRaich[o]2x> "it's evolution baby"
[11:03:10] <maccampus> so anything pre 00 is lost & Carbon goes way beyond that date
[11:03:31] <maccampus> even today OS X Finder is Carbon based
[11:04:28] <maccampus> i do like to think the going to intel was a good decission though since it's bringing us in the main stream
[11:04:40] <maccampus> using the most used processor
[11:05:24] <maccampus> bringing a lot more possible Linux distro's & other OS's which was before only possible throug slow software emulatin
[11:05:42] <maccampus> but now still when we use intel
[11:06:59] <maccampus> we can only use the Linuxes & other OS's through virtualization, except for Windows which can be forced to boot using bootcamp
[11:07:21] <maccampus> i dunno if bootcamp is ussable by other OS 'es
[11:08:35] <xRaich[o]2x> dunno. i don't think i will buy a mac in the near future
[11:10:55] <xRaich[o]2x> hmmm. time for coffee
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[11:19:17] <tsoome> hehe, mac is only thing i use for desktop and dont see it changing:P
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[11:20:49] <desp> Hi.
[11:26:12] <desp> Does anyone know what is SUNWspro and where can I find it?
[11:26:27] <desp> I thought it would be sunstudioexpress, but no.
[11:26:33] <e^ipi> the C compiler, and you can find it if you google for Sun Studio
[11:26:58] <e^ipi> alternately, you can install ss-dev if you're on an IPS distro ( 2008.05, f.ex)
[11:27:05] <desp> Ah.
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[11:29:04] <desp> e^ipi: after doing that, I don't have /opt/SUNWspro, though...
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[11:29:14] <e^ipi> no, you wouldn't
[11:29:31] <e^ipi> it's probably /opt/SunStudio or something like that
[11:29:37] <desp> All right.
[11:29:56] <desp> (I'm trying to build an awesomely convoluted thing, which has hardcoded paths in makefiles)
[11:31:19] <e^ipi> ON?
[11:31:36] <desp> No, an in-house product
[11:32:59] <e^ipi> in either case, you can fix your shit, or you could probably just symlink it
[11:33:02] <desp> Right ;)
[11:33:15] <desp> Can you tell me though what exactly did get installed in the 700MB of sunstudioexpress?
[11:33:30] <desp> Because I thought that was the compiler package.
[11:33:40] <e^ipi> compilers, support tools, linkers, and the IDE that I never use
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[11:44:32] <mib_ysg859> how do i add another slice to a zpool?
[11:45:25] <mib_ysg859> i have a raidz1 pool and want to create another set of raidz1 drives to add to it
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[11:52:13] <mib_ysg859> mismatched replication level: pool uses 7-way raidz and new vdev uses 5-way raidz
[11:52:48] <mib_ysg859> I thought i could create a pool of two independent raidz1 arrays
[11:52:57] <mib_ysg859> what is the danger here?
[11:53:33] <tynar_> hey gurus, are the vfstab files are same in every system?
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[11:58:29] <dustman> hi
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[11:59:51] <dustman> after reboot I don't have net access but everything back to normal with 'svcadm network restart'
[11:59:51] <tynar_> i had backup of vfstab, seems i changed it's name to fstab, will be any problem if i enter failsafe mode and rename it to vfstab,
[12:00:00] <dustman> what might be a problem?
[12:00:38] <tynar_> dustman check /etc/resolv.conf /etc/hosts /etc/nsswitch/conf also default gateway, dns, ip
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[12:03:02] <tynar_> is it possible to recover /etc/vfstab file???
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[12:03:45] <TT2> hi can i install os on a usb drive?
[12:03:52] <TT2> bootable?
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[12:04:27] <dustman> tynar_: everything looks ok
[12:05:22] <tynar_> dustman, in that case maybe the you must enable the services
[12:06:42] <dustman> tynar_: I've simply restarted network, without enabling anything
[12:06:48] <SYS64738>  is there the way to understand if the vt flag (wihtout entering in the bios) is enabled ?
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[12:07:15] <dustman> first I thought problem was with firewall, but disabling it didn't help
[12:09:37] <tynar_> dustman, perhaps svc:/network/dns/client:default must be enabled
[12:11:00] <tynar_> dustman, do you know how to remount the system r/w options enabled?
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[12:13:22] <dustman> tynar_: umount and mount again with whatever options you need?
[12:15:18] <dustman> tynar_: svc:/network/dns/client:default is online
[12:15:46] <codestr0m> maybe someone can help me figure out what's wrong with this code..  http://rafb.net/p/DLot2058.html
[12:15:46] <codestr0m> 	"/tmp/ube_sGAA.21544.24aafQ", line 1254 : Internal: Assert failed in file addr2.c: function doalign
[12:16:02] <dustman> can it not be started during reboot but be enabled after network restart
[12:16:04] <dustman> ?
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[12:20:53] <tynar_> dustman, i am not an expert
[12:21:17] <tynar_> how do you recover your solaris boxes? is it possible to recover from cd?
[12:21:31] <codestr0m> tynar_: recovery how?
[12:21:52] <codestr0m> broken kernel. corrupted zfs.. you screwed something up when compiling all that stuff.. which way
[12:22:15] <tynar_> codestr0m, services cannot start
[12:22:26] <codestr0m> which services?
[12:22:30] <tynar_> cosole login
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[12:22:47] <codestr0m> well. what did you do?
[12:22:58] <codestr0m> if you say nothing then I can't help you
[12:23:24] <tynar_> what i wanted was to know the free disk space
[12:23:34] <tynar_> the command which requires /etc/fstab
[12:23:48] <codestr0m> df -h
[12:23:49] <tynar_> so i made a symbolic link to /etc/vfstab
[12:24:35] <codestr0m> tynar_: on linux you may need /etc/fstab, but afaik. not solaris
[12:24:45] <tynar_> after that i deleted the symbolic link but after somehow i deleted the /etc/vfstab file, but I had a copy of /etc/vfstab on /etc/fstab
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[12:25:12] <tynar_> now i booted system with cdrom, and able to find the /etc/fstab is there, renamed it to /etc/vfstab
[12:25:39] <tynar_> unlikely system cannot be started, the same thing console-login cannot run
[12:26:12] <codestr0m> tynar_: when you said you cdrom booted.. did you mount your fs and old root and change it there or just change the cdrom /etc/vfstab ?
[12:26:16] <tynar_> the sun docs says to boot -s, fsck, remount in r/w option, but my system cannot find fsck
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[12:26:30] <codestr0m> tynar_: you are zfs root?
[12:26:44] <tynar_> i went to shell and mounted /dev/dsk/c0t0d0s0 to /a
[12:26:50] <tynar_> then cd /a/etc/
[12:26:56] <tynar_> mv -r fstab vfstab
[12:27:00] <tynar_> then reboot
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[12:27:27] <tynar_> sorry the rename command was mv -i /fstab to vfstab
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[12:27:46] <tynar_> offf mv -i fstab vfstab then reboot
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[12:28:55] <codestr0m> tynar_: I don't normally suggest this, but backup the work you've done on there.. and reinstall
[12:29:16] <tynar_> codestr0m, ok how can i backup it,
[12:29:20] <codestr0m> before you change any system files.. 1) make a new BE 2) don't change system files unless you really know what you're doing
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[12:29:49] <tynar_> i like to mess code
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[12:30:03] <codestr0m> tynar_: mount that drive and cp the stuff which you know you'll need again after the reinstall.. this is drastic, but frankly I think it'll take less time than to figure out what you may have done
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[12:30:21] <codestr0m> beyond this. I'm not sure I can be of help
[12:30:59] <tynar_> is it possible to mount flash key, and copy needed files to flash?
[12:31:33] <codestr0m> probably
[12:31:41] <codestr0m> I'm sure that's in the docs
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[12:33:22] <tynar_> code, is there any way to recover from Solaris DVD?
[12:33:45] <tynar_> like restore only system services files to default?
[12:33:45] <palowoda> codestr0m: You got balls of steel for moving to python 2.5.x.  For the fact that it can have some major issues with the system supplied python.  Not that your using that rev of python for Solaris system issues.  You should bring up that compile issue in the pkg-discuss opensolaris group.  Maybe there should be a python-solaris-group in the future because IPS and some of the gui install is so dependent on the versioning.
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[12:35:11] <codestr0m> palowoda: I've talked briefly with the py maintainer. he was of zero help
[12:35:30] <palowoda> Yeah scared as hell.
[12:35:33] <codestr0m> and for what it's worth. I've resolve it in my chroot.. I just need help with some of these more tricky C things
[12:35:53] <palowoda> Try switching the python verson while they are basing the IPS install on it.
[12:36:11] <codestr0m> palowoda: that's not really the problem.. if you do it right
[12:36:23] <codestr0m> any python based package manager does that
[12:36:48] <palowoda> So the Opensolaris team knows how to do changes in major revisions of python right?
[12:37:06] <palowoda> With respect to IPS.
[12:37:12] <codestr0m> palowoda: well. I've no idea what you're referring to. py25 is another package for snv_99 on my system
[12:37:39] <codestr0m> it's an explicit install and from my testing functioning as expected
[12:37:39] <palowoda> Is py25 used for installing Indiana?
[12:38:05] <codestr0m> well that depends on your path.. I didn't check the pkg header to see if it was explicity or pulled from env
[12:38:17] <codestr0m> it should pull from env, but worst case you use your own and call full paths
[12:38:31] <codestr0m>  /usr/bin/python-of-choice /usr/bin/pkg etc
[12:38:37] <palowoda> Hey wait shouldn't all Solaris use py25 now as a standard?
[12:38:53] <codestr0m> palowoda: I doubt they'll remove 2.4 any time soon
[12:39:16] <palowoda> And global warming won't be solved to soon also.
[12:39:19] <codestr0m> doesn't matter. I just need a bit of help with my C issue
[12:39:35] <codestr0m> palowoda: I don't feel it's that drastic
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[12:48:13] <tynar_> i can't find my files
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[12:49:44] <tynar_> codestr0m, i tried to backup my builds, but files are not exist. perhaps mounting fails?
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[12:51:32] <codestr0m> tynar_: if mounting fails you'd get an error.. if you're not mounting in the correct place that's another issue.. try to be more specific in what you're doing. such as.. is it ufs or zfs that you're trying to mount.. if it's zfs.. have you looked at the docs on how to mount it. etc.. it's all there.. I know a little hard to find at times
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[12:58:40] <tynar_> i have mounted /dev/dsk/c0t0d0s0 to /a, i can see under /a some of my files. i.e. i got a file /export/home/arch/glib2.txt in real. but know i can't enter to /export/home/arch, because the system says that /export/home exists, arch folder does not exist there. perhaps should i mount files under /dev/dsk/? i see there many files
[12:59:26] <tynar_> like c0t0d0s2, and so on
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[13:01:56] <tynar_> ufff i will reformat and create users for solairs.
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[13:35:19] <tynar_> geeks
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[14:33:16] <codestr0m> Failure in /opt/SUNWspro/prod/bin/fbe, status = 0x7f00
[14:33:16] <codestr0m> Fatal Error exec'ing /opt/SUNWspro/prod/bin/fbe
[14:33:21] <codestr0m> *joy*
[14:33:42] * codestr0m kicks sun cc
[14:34:57] <cypromis> lol
[14:35:03] <cypromis> cc is fine
[14:35:08] <cypromis> yur error is assembler
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[14:39:22] <codestr0m> cypromis: well. I was referring to the suite. and making fbe dump core from cc code isn't exactly fun
[14:39:31] <codestr0m> cypromis: you at the polish conference?
[14:39:35] <cypromis> the suite is called sunstudio :P
[14:39:36] <cypromis> yes
[14:39:48] <cypromis> lsitening to philips peech about opensolaris servers for SME's
[14:40:09] <codestr0m> aha. maybe you can help get the ear to one of the compiler guys to fix our issue. it's blocking us :P
[14:40:27] <cypromis> no compiler guys here
[14:40:41] <cypromis> did yu posted it to the forum ?
[14:40:45] <sartek> codestr0m: report it
[14:41:01] <cypromis> we have a crossbow guy here
[14:41:06] <russiane39> damn nice
[14:41:07] <cypromis> a couple of translation  guys
[14:41:08] <codestr0m> no, but I'll do that now
[14:41:10] <cypromis> an ambassador
[14:41:12] <cypromis> an evangelist
[14:41:17] <russiane39> tell him to release newer bits of crossbow :)
[14:41:18] <cypromis> some marketing people
[14:41:21] <cypromis> no compiler guys
[14:41:27] <codestr0m> cypromis: yeah. sounds like a few geeks and some sales people ;)
[14:41:37] <cypromis> no sales people
[14:41:45] <codestr0m> marketing != sales?
[14:42:52] <cypromis> correct
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[14:55:33] <wereHamster> does opensolaris use zfs as the default filesystem?
[14:55:45] <Stric> yes
[14:59:12] <CIA-57> Paul Cheng <Paul.Cheng at Sun dot COM>: 6762611 quotes in MMP strings cause parse error in DM and LM.
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[15:18:42] <wereHamster> can I rearrange the disks in the computer (plug them into different sata ports)? IOW, does OS identify the disks in the pool by their port or by a GUID?
[15:19:18] <wonko2> GUID
[15:19:39] <wereHamster> great, thanks
[15:19:42] <wonko2> np
[15:21:15] <wonko2> ok, is this VAX booting or is it not?  I really don't want to have to walk downstairs to stare at the cd-rom drive to see what it's doing
[15:21:19] <wonko2> bah
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[15:26:54] <wereHamster> I will be using this box as a headless server. How do I start sshd and make sure it's being started after every boot?
[15:28:18] <wonko2> wonko@wintermute$ svcs -a | grep ssh
[15:28:19] <wonko2> online         Oct_15   svc:/network/ssh:default
[15:28:31] <wonko2> that *should* be enabled by default
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[15:29:03] <wereHamster> oh, there are a lot services running. And ssh is indeed one of those :)
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[15:31:31] <wereHamster> does OS use openssh or their own ssh server?
[15:36:39] <bda> SunSSH is OpenSSH with patches.
[15:40:52] <Stric> it's more or less an OpenSSH fork
[15:41:09] <Stric> so yes and no
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[15:47:06] <evocallaghan> When does update 6 come out ?
[15:47:09] <evocallaghan> Next week ?
[15:47:18] <wereHamster> I can't find any documentation about how to configure my network interface with a static IP.. :(
[15:47:53] <Stric> evocallaghan: "end of october" means <=6 days
[15:48:15] <evocallaghan> Stric:Great thanks!
[15:48:35] * evocallaghan looks forward to zfs boot with lu+zfs support
[15:49:04] <Stric> I heard something about 27th, but no idea how correct that is.. sun.com says "end of october" though
[15:49:38] <evocallaghan> Is there a proper change log anywhere ?
[15:49:45] <evocallaghan> Like what drivers are new etc..
[15:50:15] <Stric> will probably be released about the same time ;)
[15:50:26] <evocallaghan> yea, I figured that :p
[15:50:56] <evocallaghan> Do you know if the 8182 or whatever the no. is realtek issue is sorted in it ?
[15:51:25] <evocallaghan> The one with the funky register that you have to turn hw chksum off
[15:51:29] <Stric> no idea.
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[15:53:07] <evocallaghan> ta
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[17:01:37] <geronimos> hi
[17:01:58] <kohju> hi.
[17:02:39] <geronimos> kohju: how're you ?
[17:03:06] <kohju> good.
[17:03:14] <kohju> you?
[17:03:16] <geronimos> kohju: konishiwa
[17:03:43] <kohju> oh. you know that i come from Japan.
[17:03:47] <geronimos> geronimos: genke desu
[17:03:58] <geronimos> kohju: of course i know
[17:04:10] <geronimos> nipon
[17:04:24] <kohju> yes.
[17:04:44] <geronimos> geronimos: i speak by japenese too but only Hiragana
[17:05:36] <kohju> Great! wonderful.
[17:05:36] <geronimos> kohju:  i speak by japenese too but only Hiragana
[17:05:58] <geronimos> kohju: it's easy but i didn't finish cause i were busy by work
[17:06:31] <geronimos> kohju: next year i'll try kanji and katakana
[17:06:51] <kohju> katakana is easy.
[17:07:07] <kohju> but kanji is difficult :)
[17:07:08] <geronimos> kohju: ganbarimasu
[17:07:20] <kohju> ganbatte kudasai :)
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[17:08:31] <geronimos> kohju: i'll don't worry
[17:09:17] <kohju> geronimos, subarasii.
[17:11:14] <geronimos> kohju: of coure it's great
[17:11:29] <geronimos> kohju: do you use solaris too ??
[17:11:33] <SYS64738> what's the same of cat /proc/cpuinfo in solaris ?
[17:12:17] <geronimos> SYS64738:  http://bhami.com/rosetta.html
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[17:12:40] <geronimos> SYS64738: me too i had problem same you but the url helps me
[17:12:48] <SYS64738> thanks
[17:12:50] <geronimos> yours*
[17:13:06] <geronimos> SYS64738: you're linux native too
[17:13:36] <SYS64738> not true I have no nativity
[17:13:44] <kohju> SYS64738,  what do you want the information?
[17:13:59] <SYS64738> I have trouble to make start xvm kernel
[17:14:10] <SYS64738> I would like to know if the vt bios flags was enabled
[17:14:16] <kohju> CPU clock? CPU name? has extensions?
[17:14:22] <SYS64738> the server is far far away from here
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[17:14:57] <SYS64738> Intel-VT
[17:15:06] <kohju> isainfo -v
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[17:15:28] <SYS64738> thanks
[17:15:40] <kohju> your welcome.
[17:15:47] <SYS64738> is it possible that xvm kernel hangs during the boot cause I have not that flag ?
[17:16:06] <SYS64738> opensolaris instead starts normally
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[17:18:08] <kohju> hm... i don't know, because recently i don't use xvm kernel.
[17:19:00] <SYS64738> it's a very beautiful thing
[17:19:04] <SYS64738> I love it
[17:20:37] <Plazma> heh, i wonder what opensolaris's support is on those wifi dongles from AT&T .. if they worked, that would rule so hard
[17:20:58] <Plazma> but i doubt it has even been considered at this point.. who knows
[17:24:33] <SunTzuTech> which wifi dongles?
[17:25:23] <Plazma> well you know those ones that give you internet access through the cell phone networks
[17:25:30] <Plazma> via verizon, at&t, sprint.. etc
[17:25:39] <Plazma> they used to be PCMCIA cards, now they're USB dongles
[17:25:42] <SunTzuTech> oh, you mean the 3g stuff?
[17:25:45] <Plazma> yea
[17:25:51] <Plazma> i wonder if it's using pppoe or something odd
[17:25:56] <Plazma> or some proprietary crap
[17:25:59] <SunTzuTech> my pantech-px500 still works in SXCE
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[17:26:09] <Plazma> is it the 3G stuff?
[17:26:14] <SunTzuTech> yeah
[17:26:31] <Plazma> how do you get it to work, don't you have to have software to dial out i guss?
[17:26:44] <SunTzuTech> look at the wwan project
[17:26:48] <Plazma> sure
[17:26:48] <Plazma> thanks
[17:27:00] <SunTzuTech> for later versions of SXCE, all you need is the config files for the dialer
[17:27:02] <SYS64738> shit xvm can also starts without vt flag
[17:27:11] <Plazma> SunTzuTech,  oh sweet
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[17:27:14] <Plazma> SunTzuTech,  you on b99?
[17:27:41] <SunTzuTech> on one system.  my laptop is still on B88 or 89.
[17:27:55] <Plazma> ahh
[17:28:36] <Plazma> that would rule if i coudl get it to work
[17:28:47] <SunTzuTech> maybe it's 91.    I use it between XP and Solaris.  been dooing some online gaming, so been in XP more lately
[17:28:54] <Plazma> yea
[17:29:00] <Plazma> i could always resort to XP, but why?
[17:29:03] <Plazma> when i dont have to :D
[17:29:34] <SunTzuTech> exactly. the only downside is I don't get nearly the bandwidth in Solaris that I do in XP with the WWAN modem
[17:29:40] <Plazma> yea..
[17:29:46] <Plazma> well it depends what im doing i guess,
[17:29:58] <Plazma> if its just checking emails and playing around, then SXCE would be fine
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[17:30:19] <Plazma> SunTzuTech,  happen to know if there is a cisco vpn client that works with SXCE? i swore there was one
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[17:30:38] <SunTzuTech> vpnc might.
[17:30:43] <Plazma> crap wrong button
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[17:30:50] <Plazma> hmm
[17:30:56] <Plazma> ill check that out.. thanks
[17:31:05] <Plazma> my VPN is simple, group auth w/xauth
[17:31:07] <SunTzuTech> depends on the concentrator I think
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[17:31:23] <Plazma> its just one of my routers in my lab acting as a VPN gateway
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[17:42:13] <codestr0m> I've got a couple asm bugs from my porting work and just going to put bounties on them.. can someone recommend a good site? pm me if or or interested in the details.. thanks
[17:42:37] <codestr0m> good site to find coders (like rentacoders, but maybe others as well)
[17:42:53] <klg> has anybody tried setting up samba/cifs server on opensolaris
[17:43:16] <tsoome> cifs only;)
[17:43:17] <Plazma> klg, state your specific issue, that's a common thing done
[17:43:32] <klg> i'm trying to setup cifs server
[17:43:44] <klg> i don't know which package to install
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[17:44:00] <qiyong> [Kick] You have been kicked from channel #OpenSolaris by e^ipi (e^ipi).
[17:44:07] <qiyong> what happened?
[17:44:16] <qiyong> e^ipi: bother to tell?
[17:44:22] <jamesd> klg, SXCE comes with CIFS kernel module all ready
[17:44:26] <klg> IPS looks good, but if i search for a package it gives a big list and becomes confusing which one to install
[17:44:51] <qiyong> i have SXCE iso mounted, anyone know where is the kernel and the pxe loader?
[17:44:59] <klg> jamesd: i'm on opensolars 2008
[17:45:01] <jamesd> qiyong, you appeared to be a spammer and/or pissed off an OP, its best to give solaris a try in vmware/virtualpc/etc or dedicate some hardware to it.
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[17:45:36] <qiyong> jamesd already tried with virtualbox, but too slow
[17:45:43] <jamesd> klg, never tried opensolaris 2008, but it may have the same embeded...   google   zfs  set sharesmb and see how to configure
[17:46:27] <klg> tsoome: can u share how did the cifs stuff
[17:46:31] <jamesd> qiyong, well then use vmware i hear its faster... or give it more ram/cpu resources or raw hardware... used computers are cheap on ebay.
[17:46:55] <tsoome> man google?
[17:47:03] <Plazma> ha
[17:47:26] <tsoome> there is basically like 1-2 commands, and them zfs set sharesmb=on or so
[17:48:13] <tsoome> or zfs set sharesmb=name=yoursharename
[17:49:05] <codestr0m> qiyong: you got kicked above because you annoyed someone by calling indiana indy.. which is confusing to others, but may become a new favorite term for others around here
[17:49:50] <qiyong> codestr0m: i don't remember i did that,  could you paste the log
[17:51:05] <codestr0m> qiyong: no. I looked above.. it was freetown who got kicked for that and I just assumed it was you under another nick. if a certain OP is kicking people for that can someone please pull in his/her reigns a bit
[17:51:34] <qiyong> codestr0m: ok, i see
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[17:52:02] <astinus> 'uname -m' on a OpenSolaris box (amd64) seems to throw 'i86pc'
[17:52:13] <astinus> would anyone be able to tell me what it outputs on SPARC and i686?
[17:52:38] <tsoome> use isainfo to detect bits
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[17:52:43] <codestr0m> astinus: welcome to the joys of being on another platform.. that's not the best way to see what proc the system is on
[17:52:54] <codestr0m> tsoome: thanks. astinus listen to him
[17:53:07] <astinus> tsoome: thanks muchly. :)
[17:54:17] <th> acl_get(3SEC) shows return type of acl_get as int* while <sys/acl.h> declares it as int.
[17:54:26] <th> wrong manpage i guess
[17:55:51] <th> can anyone confirm this?
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[18:03:49] <Ender2070> how can I help get drivers made for solaris?  (i dont know how to program)
[18:09:04] <xRaich[o]2x> Ender2070: submit bugreports
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[18:33:04] <th> is NFSv4-style acl permission write_owner (o) not enough to chown for a non-privileged user?
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[18:34:57] <th> i set A+user:th:o:allow  and verified with ls -V  but chown on that file just responds with "Not owner" when trying to chown
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[18:39:35] <th> ahh this write_owner permission seems work to take ownership (change to current uid) only.
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[18:39:47] <th> that's something that should be written in the manual
[18:39:58] <th> like in acl(5)
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[19:08:24] <Ender2070> ty
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[19:13:27] <xRaich[o]2x> Ender2070: also try to get your hands on a lot of hardware. test everything (e.g. suspend) provide the drivers team with all the information you can get and answer their questions
[19:14:36] <sstallion> Ender2070: is there a  particular bit of hardware you need support for ?
[19:14:52] <ZOP> 2008.05 had/has ZFS mirrored root install?
[19:14:55] <ZOP> didnt' it?
[19:15:12] <sstallion> ZOP: if not you can always add a disk after the fact
[19:15:40] <ZOP> yeah but then there's no boot blocks installed.
[19:15:54] <sstallion> thats easily remidied
[19:16:24] <sstallion> look at the zfs root project page, there are instructions for having a mirrored root install
[19:16:31] <ZOP> not when your'e trying to talk a solaris newb through it over IM.
[19:16:36] <Ender2070> sstallion - a realtek lan card that isnt working yet
[19:16:44] <sstallion> Ender2070: which one?
[19:16:51] <Ender2070> sstallion - full documentation for it is available too
[19:16:53] <Ender2070> 8211
[19:17:17] <sstallion> looks like an early gigabit variety
[19:17:18] <Ender2070> its on all the new asus boards
[19:17:35] <ZOP> www.opensolaris.org is down anyway.  bleh.  i'd rather just point him at that.
[19:17:40] <sstallion> one second, let me check uts
[19:18:06] <Ender2070> realtek is down too
[19:18:08] <Ender2070> or very slow
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[19:19:42] <sstallion> Ender2070: interesting
[19:20:02] <sstallion> do you know anything about the device characteristics ?
[19:20:06] <sstallion> I assume its PCIe
[19:20:14] <Ender2070> its gigabit for sure
[19:20:28] <Ender2070> its onboard, hopefully its PCIe
[19:20:38] <Ender2070> i can get more information later, im at work right now
[19:20:49] <sstallion> no support exists for it yet - i'm finishing up some work on an older realtek chipset, I could probably roll over and start on this one
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[19:21:18] <sstallion> depends on whether I can get ahold of test hardware or not
[19:22:01] <sstallion> let me double check and make sure its not part of the rge family first
[19:22:34] <Ender2070> i can help with testing it
[19:23:48] <blahee> Ender2070: you said earlier, that you did have Asus M3N78-VM with that chip? I do have this board too, but it has integrated nvidia gige LAN
[19:24:09] <Ender2070> it is an M3N78-VM
[19:24:21] <Ender2070> look it up further
[19:24:37] <sstallion> Ender2070: I'll need more specifics. Motherboard make and model, as well as full prtconf -vp output
[19:25:06] <Ender2070> sstallion - the motherboard is ASUS M3N78-VM
[19:25:09] <blahee> as in mine is running linux and it's most definetly using forcedeth driver and nothing related rtl
[19:25:10] <sstallion> its possible that this is an rge chipset that just needs a patch to the existing driver
[19:25:15] <sstallion> Ender2070: email please :)
[19:25:32] <Ender2070> sstallion - brandon.lozza at ubersource dot com
[19:25:48] <sstallion> Ender2070: driver-discuss at opensolaris dot org if you could please
[19:26:07] <Ender2070> sure
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[19:26:56] <sstallion> realtek doesnt have datasheets for this model exactly which makes me think its really an 8111 (the 2 may indicate integrated?)
[19:28:09] <Ender2070> if you disable onboard it switches to an "external" realtek
[19:28:26] <blahee> that is RTL8211CL-GR PHY
[19:29:28] <Ender2070> yes
[19:30:12] <Ender2070> the 8211 family
[19:30:41] <sstallion> well
[19:31:01] <sstallion> the 8211 is an integrated chipset - so it may (or may not) be similar to supported chipsets in rge
[19:31:09] <sstallion> like I said, I'll need to do some digging to figure out for sure
[19:32:54] <Ender2070> for sure
[19:33:00] <Ender2070> once im home ill get that info and email it
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[19:36:10] <sstallion> Ender2070: you might want to mention I'm looking in to it to keep from duplicating effort :)
[19:36:39] <Ender2070> ok =)
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[19:36:43] <Ender2070> thanks for the help
[19:36:51] <sstallion> anytime
[19:36:52] <ludc> hi everyone!
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[19:37:11] <Ender2070> like blahee mentioned, it works in linux but linux sux
[19:37:13] <ludc> how to read portable hd in opensolaris?
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[20:31:57] <mikefut> Hi
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[20:32:08] <mikefut> zfs experts around here? ;)
[20:33:00] <mikefut> is there any way to figure out why disk resilver is so slow while overall system load is extremely slow?
[20:33:18] <mikefut> load low I mean
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[20:36:39] <e^ipi> because resilver is a whole crap-ton of IO ?
[20:36:51] <e^ipi> and isn't dependent on system load
[20:37:53] <mikefut> hmm... not so - zfs iostat reports 100-300 reads/writes per sec. - is it ton of IO?
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[20:39:01] <mikefut> maybe my system is not balanced... I see a lot of IRQs from sata controller (Areca) - maybe it's the bottleneck?
[20:39:51] <mikefut> and looks like it shares same IRQ with e1000g
[20:40:41] <benley> oh man
[20:40:55] <benley> a macos NFS client with an opensolaris nfs server is _painfully_ slow
[20:41:16] <benley> just connected the same machine via smb instead of nfs and it's literally about 15 times faster
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[20:41:59] <HeatHawk[R5]> Any word on the ppc edition of open solaris? Anywhere near release?
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[21:03:07] <e^ipi> not even close
[21:03:50] <jbk> was an actual platform ever decided? :)
[21:03:54] <smtms> is it moving yet?
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[21:04:50] <e^ipi> jbk: not really
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[21:28:04] <ahmed-tux> why opensolaris doesn't have ffmpeg
[21:28:48] <ahmed-tux> i wast all day for making smile show working in solaris but i need to ffmpeg
[21:28:50] <ahmed-tux> pffffffff
[21:28:56] <vmlemon_> Hmm, you have to install it yourself
[21:29:07] <vmlemon_> Same as every other UNIX-like OS
[21:29:20] <Plazma> ahmed-tux, it doesn't come with windows or os x , either
[21:29:25] <Plazma> or linsucks
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[21:30:17] <ahmed-tux> vmlemon: i'll install it but i don't like this kinf of work
[21:30:28] <ahmed-tux> bcause i don't like manuel update
[21:30:38] <Plazma> waa
[21:30:46] <vmlemon_> Given that it's probably a patent minefield, I don't think Sun would want to ship it
[21:31:06] <vmlemon_> There's nothing wrong with compiling things by hand though
[21:31:06] <ahmed-tux> Plazma: Linux doesn't suck anyway
[21:31:14] <vmlemon_> (It isn't really that tricky)
[21:31:14] <Plazma> tck, if you say so
[21:31:50] <ahmed-tux> vmlemon: yes i know it's not problem but i'll wast more time now
[21:32:08] <HeatHawk[R5]> Plazma, he got you there man
[21:32:13] <vmlemon_> You can start it off doing the whole process now, and "collect" it later
[21:32:18] <HeatHawk[R5]> damn, im on irc again, back to work :(
[21:32:30] <vmlemon_> (Through the magic power of &&) ;)
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[21:32:35] <Plazma> HeatHawk[R5], ?
[21:32:42] <vmlemon_> *&& and sudo
[21:32:57] <HeatHawk[R5]> Plazma, his rebuttle of "no it doesn't"
[21:33:04] <HeatHawk[R5]> it was amazing, you cant beat it.
[21:33:04] <HeatHawk[R5]> lol
[21:33:16] <Plazma> im hungover, clarify that
[21:41:51] <ahmed-tux> nice
[21:41:57] <ahmed-tux> all it's good
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[21:42:07] <maccampus> hi
[21:42:16] <ahmed-tux> but i'll nt bring my projet to anyone hehehe
[21:42:41] <maccampus> what is  osol-0811-99.iso
[21:42:51] <maccampus> is that 101 ?
[21:43:20] <ahmed-tux> if someone intersting by slidshow and dvd menu i 'll add it in kde look
[21:43:27] <ahmed-tux> hope that you like it
[21:43:34] <ahmed-tux> i mean kde-apps
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[21:45:47] <codestr0m> ahmed-tux: you need ffmpeg to work on solaris? simple.. two options.. follow the latest work from flameeyes or pull the patches from cvsdude
[21:47:00] <ahmed-tux> codestr0m: yes i did and it's work now
[21:47:26] <ahmed-tux> codestr0m: thank you
[21:47:44] <codestr0m> sure. I've ported mplayer. libdce and other bits
[21:48:40] <ahmed-tux> codestr0m: i want know only one thing , can solaris add GPL package or not ??
[21:49:02] <ahmed-tux> or only will work with CDDL
[21:49:10] <codestr0m> ahmed-tux: frankly I don't even think you know what you're asking
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[21:49:31] <h3sp4wn> ahmed-tux: Depends whether you believe Debian's crack head interpretation or that of Sun's Lawyers
[21:49:47] <codestr0m> solaris of course ships with gpl code, but it's about linking and in this case more specifically about patent issues
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[21:50:14] <codestr0m> h3sp4wn: different goals can also lead to different results
[21:50:39] <ahmed-tux> codestr0m: because it's open and we can change all what we want , and i want add to my opensolarsi many stuf
[21:50:46] <codestr0m> who cares. be happy with what they shipped and don't bitch
[21:51:22] <h3sp4wn> codestr0m: Not really, I am certain Sun is not risking having to GPL v2# the whole of Solaris (as Debian says why solaris cannot use dpkg)
[21:51:37] <ahmed-tux> codestr0m: and me i ask about solaris devloper , they can add all GPL package or no
[21:51:51] <vmlemon_> Nothing in either the CDDL or GPL prevents you from installing GPL licensed code on a CDDL licensed OS, or vice-versa
[21:52:04] <codestr0m> h3sp4wn: what are you talking about?
[21:52:27] <codestr0m> this has not point.. if you'd like to know where patches are I'll point you in the right direction
[21:52:30] <ahmed-tux> because bsd use GPL
[21:52:40] <h3sp4wn> codestr0m: They claim that these things are a derivative work of the C library
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[21:53:41] <h3sp4wn> And some other stuff schilly explained it better
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[21:59:07] <CIA-57> Ken Erickson <Ken.Erickson at Sun dot COM>: 6761478 In OpenSolaris, new hostids are being generated even if there is already a hostid on system, 6754523 bfu complains zoneadm: not found after integration of 6559979
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[22:23:55] <Tilt> anybody here know anything about ips
[22:24:08] <Tilt> (day 4 of asking)
[22:24:17] <sickness> Tilt: what do you need to know?
[22:24:19] <smtms> Tilt, try asking an actual question
[22:24:34] <Tilt> http://rafb.net/p/hrGXQp37.html
[22:24:39] <Tilt> why is pkg spitting this out
[22:24:56] <Tilt> been like this since i updated from snv_98 to snv_99
[22:25:05] <sickness> Tilt: have you put "pfexec" in front of the command?
[22:25:10] <Tilt> yes
[22:25:11] <sickness> are you running it from root?
[22:25:13] <sickness> uhm
[22:25:33] <Tilt> tried both as myself with pfexec and as root
[22:27:14] <sickness> heh
[22:27:20] <sickness> so I don't know I've never had that error :/
[22:27:49] <xRaich[o]2x> Tilt: which build?
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[22:28:23] <Tilt> i can't find it in the bug database either.... i know it's something silly, like "delete this file and rerun pkg" or "make sure that your path has XXXXXX before YYYYYY"
[22:28:35] <Tilt> i'm in osol snv_99
[22:29:03] <xRaich[o]2x> hmmm dunno, but i think you should report this.
[22:29:35] <Tilt> went from 200805 -> snv_98 - snv_99, nothing special is installed...
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[22:31:06] <Tilt> i'll make sure i don't have any file corruption first, then continue to try debugging it through the night
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[22:32:14] <comay> Tilt, you might send email to pkg-discuss at opensolaris dot org
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[22:33:27] <Tilt> that's more for changes i thought
[22:34:32] <Tilt> lets see what the scrub says first
[22:34:51] <Tilt> i got copies set to 2, i hope it's just random file corruption or something
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[22:46:20] <blahee> Tilt: that looks more like LANG issue
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[22:51:43] <ahmed-tux> i think that blastwave devloper are sleeping
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[22:53:49] <ahmed-tux> cause thet didn't do update of pacjage
[22:53:53] <ahmed-tux> they*
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[22:57:52] <Tilt> blahee, o'rly
[22:58:03] <Tilt> i don't think it's set to anything special
[22:58:21] <Tilt> en_US.UTF-8
[22:58:41] <blahee> i'd try (frist thing anyway) prefixing commands with like 'LANG=C LC_ALL=C <command>'
[22:59:21] <Tilt> nope
[22:59:25] <Tilt> same error
[22:59:34] <blahee> then it's not about that
[23:00:17] <Tilt> i thought it was soemthing to do with either broken xml someplace, or whatever is parsing the url to return a null pointer
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