[00:00:03] <Doc> i dont get into SF much [00:04:47] <Tilt> yay my new be is almost done [00:07:47] *** stukag has joined #opensolaris [00:11:09] *** CIA-25 has joined #opensolaris [00:11:50] *** morteng has left #opensolaris [00:13:34] <moazamraja> anyone know if there is an easy way to make Solaris Zones transportable/manageable over a network? [00:14:02] <moazamraja> i.e., zone1 on server1 is starting to require too much CPU...i'd like to move zone1 to server2 which has more capacity [00:18:28] <hspaans> you mean detach and attach? [00:19:19] <jamesd> moazamraja, man zoneadm ... detach.. move files .. attach to new server, boot [00:20:11] *** Tilt has quit IRC [00:22:29] *** sponix has joined #opensolaris [00:22:32] *** Triskelios has quit IRC [00:22:36] *** r_d_ has quit IRC [00:22:39] *** r_d_ has joined #opensolaris [00:24:21] *** stukag_ has quit IRC [00:25:38] <moazamraja> jamesd: can I keep my zone data on a shared NFS location? [00:26:13] <moazamraja> that way i just detach, go to other server, have the same NFS mounted zone data available, and zoneadm attach? [00:29:25] *** sstallion has quit IRC [00:37:36] *** mikefut has quit IRC [00:39:25] <jamesd> moazamraja, that is not supported... iscsi would be a much better method [00:41:28] *** aeneas has joined #opensolaris [00:41:57] *** aeneas has left #opensolaris [00:42:59] *** xRaich[o]2x has left #opensolaris [00:44:04] *** Tilt has joined #OpenSolaris [00:44:46] <Tilt> mmmmm 99 is nice [00:45:01] *** tombhadAC has quit IRC [00:47:30] <Tilt> it seems 100% more responsive.... [00:49:23] <Tilt> weird.... i can't delete the old be [00:50:08] *** teo` has quit IRC [00:50:58] <Tilt> anybody know anything about that in 99 ? [00:52:36] *** fr4g has joined #opensolaris [00:52:51] *** RElling has joined #opensolaris [00:54:44] *** nachox has quit IRC [00:55:29] *** vmlemon_ has quit IRC [01:00:17] <geronimos> Tilt: you never Devlop by Java ?? [01:01:34] <Tilt> no, not relly [01:02:28] <geronimos> Tilt: cause you were in sun , just think [01:03:01] <Tilt> written some math programs in it, but only cuz it was an easy fast way to write a web/console program quickly [01:03:14] <Tilt> i wasn't a dev, i'm an admin [01:03:34] <Tilt> i did internal it work, supported iPlanet and QA mostly [01:04:43] <geronimos> Tilt: ahh Network [01:05:02] <Tilt> no, system [01:05:12] <e^ipi> geronimos: the java half of sun and the solaris half of sun are like two different companies [01:05:21] <e^ipi> i don't know anyone on the java side [01:05:26] <Tilt> i supported both groups [01:06:15] <geronimos> e^ipi: just asking [01:06:18] <Tilt> they put in a ticket cuz something was broken, and i spent the afternoon in the server rooms [01:06:31] <e^ipi> geronimos: i know... just saying :) [01:07:01] <Tilt> bbl, good movie on [01:07:07] * e^ipi eats pumpkin pie [01:07:53] <geronimos> e^ipi: and about you do you work with sun too ? [01:08:02] <e^ipi> yeah, i'm an intern [01:08:20] <geronimos> e^ipi: good , ich place ? [01:08:26] <geronimos> wich* [01:08:40] <e^ipi> i work remotely [01:09:06] <geronimos> e^ipi: sorry didn't understand hehehe [01:10:42] <geronimos> geronimos: do you remote the machine or what ?? [01:11:44] <geronimos> e^ipi: do you remote the machine or what ?? [01:11:49] <e^ipi> oh, i do a bunch of stuff [01:11:57] <e^ipi> write code, integrate community peoples' code [01:12:08] <e^ipi> impact studies, etc [01:12:27] <geronimos> e^ipi: nice really [01:12:31] <e^ipi> mm [01:12:46] <geronimos> e^ipi: usually using opensolaris i think [01:13:16] <e^ipi> always [01:13:33] <e^ipi> i have an Apple laptop, but i don't really work on it [01:13:35] <e^ipi> just play [01:14:02] <geronimos> e^ipi: i don't know why people like Apple [01:14:45] <e^ipi> because fighting to get media stuff ( video, mp3 ) working on anything else sucks, but i still have a command line and API's that i'm comfortable with [01:15:00] <e^ipi> it's also an excellent mobile platform [01:15:48] <geronimos> e^ipi: and it's easy a lot [01:15:54] <e^ipi> yes [01:15:58] <e^ipi> and sometimes that's what I want [01:16:28] <e^ipi> other times i don't mind doing the work to get something running, but when I'm at a coffeeshop or a library, that's not the time for it [01:16:43] <hspaans> sometimes it should just work [01:16:52] *** Odin- has joined #opensolaris [01:17:09] <geronimos> e^ipi: ahhh , really nice [01:18:02] *** MrBIOS_ has joined #OpenSolaris [01:18:03] <geronimos> e^ipi: but i'll never use MAC OS X [01:18:46] <e^ipi> okay [01:18:55] <e^ipi> it's personal preference really [01:19:06] <geronimos> e^ipi: i'll between lin solaris bsd and openvms [01:19:14] <geronimos> i'll play* [01:19:32] * e^ipi pictures an openvms laptop [01:19:33] <e^ipi> heh [01:20:09] <geronimos> e^ipi: open i have it in ooooold machine [01:20:29] <geronimos> sometimes i run if i need it [01:20:35] <geronimos> run it [01:21:37] <geronimos> e^ipi: you have macbook ? [01:21:44] <e^ipi> yes [01:21:45] *** freakazoid0223 has joined #opensolaris [01:21:59] <moazamraja> e^ipi: omg, u actually bought an Apple machine? [01:22:04] <moazamraja> i thought u were Mr. AntiMac [01:22:11] <moazamraja> or maybe I'm thinking someone else? [01:22:15] <e^ipi> when was i ever anti mac? [01:22:40] <e^ipi> probably someone else [01:23:52] *** LordIllpalazo has joined #opensolaris [01:27:15] *** ttmrichter has joined #opensolaris [01:27:18] *** ttmrichter_ has joined #opensolaris [01:29:04] *** ruse39_ is now known as ruse39 [01:29:28] *** sponix has quit IRC [01:29:29] *** mega has quit IRC [01:37:12] *** bartender has quit IRC [01:37:54] *** LordIllpalazo has quit IRC [01:46:23] *** syamajala has quit IRC [01:48:23] *** syamajala has joined #opensolaris [01:51:34] *** h3sp4wn has quit IRC [01:59:41] *** syamajala has quit IRC [02:01:24] *** bradd has quit IRC [02:04:54] *** swa has quit IRC [02:08:40] *** bartender has joined #opensolaris [02:11:26] *** syamajala has joined #opensolaris [02:20:12] *** geronimos has quit IRC [02:21:29] *** dmarkey_ has quit IRC [02:25:46] *** Plaidrab has joined #opensolaris [02:26:15] *** nachox has joined #opensolaris [02:27:20] <Plaidrab> Does the 200805 still want the entire disk or can I install it on an existing, partitioned disk? 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[03:09:08] *** Odin- has quit IRC [03:09:37] *** hspaans has quit IRC [03:12:15] *** fr4g has quit IRC [03:14:12] *** nachox has quit IRC [03:21:53] *** comay has joined #opensolaris [03:22:03] *** comay has quit IRC [03:22:30] *** comay has joined #opensolaris [03:22:47] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o comay [03:24:38] *** ninjaslim has joined #opensolaris [03:26:24] *** MrBIOS_ has quit IRC [03:34:56] *** jstephan_ has joined #opensolaris [03:35:55] *** piwi has quit IRC [03:39:46] <c00p> Plaidrab: You can install to a partition [03:41:56] *** skillet has joined #opensolaris [03:45:37] *** nowhere_man has joined #opensolaris [03:46:32] <nowhere_man> hi all [03:47:10] <nowhere_man> I really discovered OpenSolaris some days ago at a conference on it, from our french user group [03:47:41] <c00p> nowhere_man: started using it ? [03:47:44] *** nachox has joined #opensolaris [03:47:48] <nowhere_man> I wanted to download it right now, but I don't want to register or give any personal info to download free software [03:48:14] <nowhere_man> is there somewhere I can get it without prior registration? [03:48:31] <c00p> do u want SXCE or 200805 ? [03:49:29] <nowhere_man> don't know :-) [03:49:58] <c00p> http://dlc.sun.com/osol/opensolaris/2008/05/os200805.iso <-- thats 200805 ... u don't need to register for that [03:50:25] <c00p> then u can use the package manager to updated to the latest release [03:50:33] <c00p> *update [03:50:49] <nowhere_man> great, thanks [03:52:11] *** jstephan has quit IRC [03:59:40] <c00p> nowhere_man: no worries mate [04:09:08] *** syamajala has joined #opensolaris [04:12:20] *** joe_k has joined #opensolaris [04:14:18] <joe_k> im new to opensolaris, i just installed b99 ... i am trying to install netcat from the package manager but it never finishes checking dependancies... any ideas? [04:16:15] <Tilt> joe_k: at a prompt or in the gui ? [04:17:21] <joe_k> gui [04:17:39] <joe_k> is there a generic cli command for downloading and adding new packages [04:17:42] <Tilt> try doing it from a command prompt, pass it the verbose flag [04:17:46] <Tilt> yes [04:17:48] <Tilt> pkg [04:20:18] <Tilt> the gui is lacking in functionality to be sure..... but the're working on it [04:21:26] <Tilt> trygvis: pkg install SUNWnetcat [04:22:14] <joe_k> ok that worked... thanks! [04:22:19] <Tilt> no problem [04:23:13] <Tilt> all the packages names are listed in /var/pkg/pkg [04:23:41] <Tilt> i usualy just ls -al /var/pkg/pkg | grep -i <program> [04:23:48] <joe_k> ok [04:23:53] <Tilt> to see if the package i want in isn there [04:24:10] <c00p> yeh pkg search sucks [04:24:21] <Tilt> indeed... [04:25:22] <Tilt> mines flat out broken [04:25:25] <Tilt> and i don't know why [04:25:52] <Tilt> i use search it think's my index is corrupt, and if i try and rebuild the index it spewes python failures to me [04:26:11] <c00p> what build ? [04:26:16] <Tilt> 99 [04:26:33] <c00p> root@token:/rpool> pkg search netcat [04:26:37] <c00p> returns nothing ... [04:27:02] <Tilt> <tilt@blackhole(2):/var/pkg/pkg> [04:27:02] <Tilt> zsh/2 1006 [1] % pkg search netcat [04:27:02] <Tilt> pkg: The search index appears corrupted. Please rebuild the index with 'pkg rebuild-index'. [04:27:35] <Tilt> the rebuild index thing doesn't work [04:27:46] *** nachox has quit IRC [04:28:28] <Tilt> i can't delete a boot environment either, and have no clue why [04:29:24] <c00p> root@token:~> pkg rebuild-index [04:29:24] <c00p> PHASE ITEMS [04:29:24] <c00p> Indexing Packages 583/583 [04:29:33] <c00p> worked for me ... u got some issues :( [04:29:37] <Tilt> oh... it worked now.... i deleted that old be finaly :D [04:29:56] <c00p> what build did u originally install ? 200805 ? [04:30:33] <Tilt> yep... then updated to 98, then just today to 99 [04:30:52] <Tilt> well i got the disk from sun [04:31:04] <Tilt> whatever build that was... lemme look [04:31:36] <Tilt> 87 [04:33:02] *** ggeecko_ has joined #opensolaris [04:34:22] *** ggeecko_ is now known as ggeecko [04:35:02] *** ggeecko has joined #opensolaris [04:49:00] *** T_B has joined #opensolaris [04:52:50] *** digifor has joined #opensolaris [04:53:39] <x58> How do you remove boot environments? I have a Solaris 2008.05, an opensolaris-1 and an opensolaris-2 [04:54:23] <digifor> I am new to this. what do I do with this patch? http://opensolaris.pastebin.ca/1230686 [04:55:42] <digifor> x58, beadm destroy opensolaris-1 [04:56:22] <digifor> or pfexec beadm destroy opensolaris-1 [04:56:36] <x58> I su to root all the time, so pfexec is not required. [04:56:37] <x58> Thanks :D [04:57:31] *** microchip_ has quit IRC [04:57:53] <x58> I am new to OpenSolaris and having come from FreeBSD/Mac OS X it is entirely different! [05:00:14] <digifor> good doc here. http://dlc.sun.com/osol/docs/content/IPS/gggyv.html [05:00:51] <digifor> also this site is helpful http://blogs.sun.com/observatory/ [05:01:38] *** T_B_ has quit IRC [05:03:45] <x58> Already have that in my RSS feeds list :D [05:03:53] <x58> The IPS one is bookmarked :D [05:04:49] <x58> digifor: Do you happen to know a good guide/way of installing OpenSolaris with as little of the X11 crud/Gnome stuff? I only use it as a server and having all of that installed is just a waste of space. [05:06:42] *** stukag_ has joined #opensolaris [05:08:33] <digifor> At this stage of the game using the 2008.11 development builds or 2008.05 no. [05:09:13] <x58> Is there any future thought of having an install option that installs a clean server only install? That you know of? [05:09:29] <comay> x58, after you've installed 2008.05, you can "pkg uninstall slim_install" and then remove other packages [05:10:45] <digifor> I stand corrected [05:10:47] <x58> Interesting, I will have to play with that some. [05:11:17] <x58> Would be nice to have as an install option. Much like on FreeBSD you can select to install X11 or leave it uninstalled. [05:11:25] <digifor> There is also sxce and milax is a community distro with a server install. [05:11:46] <digifor> http://blogs.sun.com/observatory/entry/distributions_of_opensolaris [05:12:24] <benley> x58: if you want a server, at this point I'd recommend trying sxce [05:12:46] <benley> x58: but I'm a bit of an OS curmudgeon [05:13:38] *** Gomex has joined #opensolaris [05:14:19] <x58> I tried SXCE, but I could not get it to do what I wanted it to do, the graphical installer also insisted on using UFS rather than ZFS, and the console based installer was not being helpful either. [05:14:51] <benley> yeah you still can't do zfs root with the gui installer [05:15:23] <x58> The installer in 2008.05 definitely used a zfs root with the gui installer, it never asked me if I wanted UFS or ZFS though, it just did it. [05:17:09] *** stukag has quit IRC [05:17:44] <x58> I'll stick with what I have for now. It is all for experimenting with anyway, I just want to learn how everything works so I can have some control over it all. [05:17:45] <Tilt> get the new sxce [05:17:59] <Tilt> it will install in a zfs root [05:18:08] <Tilt> snv_99 [05:18:32] <x58> I grabbed SXCE (snv_99) single DVD image yesterday and burned it. Installed to a UFS partition. [05:18:40] <x58> No option to pick ZFS either :/ [05:18:52] <Tilt> weird didn't for me...... dod you do a console install ? [05:19:13] <Tilt> if even asked me what i wanted to name the root [05:19:55] <x58> First I did the graphical install, that gave me UFS, then I did console based install, which let me pick ZFS, however for some reason my system would not boot because X11 failed to start (at this point it was the third time installing) [05:20:30] *** syamajala has quit IRC [05:21:00] <benley> Tilt: did zfsroot become default in b99? [05:21:03] *** stukag_ has quit IRC [05:21:06] <Tilt> that is a known bug, has something do with fonts as far as i can recall [05:21:26] <x58> benley: Only if you use the console install option and select it. [05:21:29] <Tilt> bengtf: not the default, but it's avaliable [05:21:56] <x58> So yeah, the OpenSolaris 2008.05 did the trick for me. [05:22:11] <benley> Tilt: ok. that's exactly the way b98 behaved when I installed it :) [05:22:44] <Tilt> they know the solution... lemme find the link [05:22:45] <x58> The only problem I have now is that I updated to snv_99 with pkg image-update, and for some reason on my radeon graphics card each time I open a new app in X11 the screen flickers. [05:22:58] <Tilt> weird [05:23:18] <x58> Tried turning off dri or xaa as the accellmethod, no dice. So I just disabled gdm and now just SSH into it. [05:23:20] <Tilt> dunno about that, i only got an nvidia card here [05:23:25] *** stukag has joined #opensolaris [05:23:35] <x58> It worked fine using snv_89 (I believe that is what 2008.05 is) [05:23:41] <x58> SunOS opensolaris 5.11 snv_99 i86pc i386 i86pc Solaris [05:25:24] <digifor> How do I apply this patch to the zyd driver? http://opensolaris.pastebin.ca/1230686 [05:26:29] *** Decretum2 has joined #opensolaris [05:28:44] <Tilt> digifor, patch the file, and then compile the module [05:29:07] <Tilt> i would just modify the file by hand [05:30:02] <Tilt> i don't even understand how that's supposed to fix anything [05:30:12] <Tilt> but i don't see all the code, so i dunno [05:30:56] <digifor> Tilt, does it go in the makefile or the zyd_usb.c? [05:31:06] <Tilt> zyd_usb.c [05:31:07] *** sartek has joined #opensolaris [05:31:31] <digifor> The patch comes direct by email from one of the zyd developers so it should be good. thanks [05:31:49] <Tilt> vim +15 zyd_usb.c; add in (uint32_t) before "size" and then compile [05:36:10] *** Decretum has quit IRC [05:37:16] <x58> Thanks for the help guys. [05:37:25] <Tilt> np [05:37:39] *** ninjaslim has quit IRC [05:42:59] *** fr4g has joined #opensolaris [05:44:28] *** skillet has quit IRC [06:04:36] *** luc^ has quit IRC [06:09:52] <digifor> Thanks Tilt. Now I know what - and + mean in patches. 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I would say the all of them can be provided by sysidcfg but only the first three can be provided by a name service, am i wrong? 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[10:19:24] *** MeP3aBeu has joined #opensolaris [10:21:26] <cmihai> Try jack jack, root opensolaris [10:21:39] <cmihai> Or pfexec / pfksh for root access. [10:22:00] <cmihai> su - root should also work. gdm may not permit root logins. [10:28:09] *** codestr0m has quit IRC [10:30:12] *** codestr0m has joined #opensolaris [10:30:48] *** Fullmoon has joined #opensolaris [10:33:48] *** tombhadAC has joined #opensolaris [10:36:03] *** bartender has quit IRC [10:37:36] *** dea_stylaa_ has joined #opensolaris [10:38:52] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o comay [10:44:31] *** Fullmoon has left #opensolaris [10:46:41] *** digifor has joined #opensolaris [10:47:46] *** klg has quit IRC [10:58:42] <digifor> I am able to ping 209.73.168.74 but not www.yahoo.com [10:59:42] <digifor> nslookup works [11:00:14] <CosmicDJ> check /etc/nsswitch.conf [11:03:54] *** luna1 has joined #opensolaris [11:12:04] *** dmarkey_ has joined #opensolaris [11:14:45] <digifor> CosmicDJ, that did help. I am connecting with pppd to gprs. It connects now for a few minutes then stops working. [11:17:38] *** anilg has quit IRC [11:19:29] *** boyd has quit IRC [11:23:26] *** RElling1 has joined #opensolaris [11:29:29] *** xRaich[o]2x has joined #opensolaris [11:32:39] *** RElling has quit IRC [11:35:32] <digifor> What would cause pppd to drop out on a gprs connection after visiting only one or two url's? [11:37:50] <CosmicDJ> what does the log say? [11:42:34] <digifor> Sorry CosmicDJ I am new to this. Which log? [11:43:10] <tomww> does the connection drop after a specific time from login or after a time without activity? [11:43:33] <tomww> LPC sometime thinks the echos aren't coming back, then one side terminates the connection [11:43:45] <tomww> sorry, LCP [11:44:17] <digifor> tomww, it seems to drop after visiting one or two sites. [11:44:59] <digifor> I am sure the problem is in my solaris configuration. I set this up with wvdial on my eeepc and it is working fine. [12:00:32] <digifor> Is wvdial available for solaris as a package? [12:01:56] *** tombhadAC has quit IRC [12:02:09] *** dmarkey_ has quit IRC [12:16:55] <tomww> seems not. tim for a SFEwvdial.spec isn't it? [12:16:59] <tomww> *time [12:18:45] <digifor> What is the equivalent of wdial "Stupid Mode = 1" in pppd? [12:26:25] *** comay has quit IRC [12:26:56] *** boyd has joined #opensolaris [12:31:36] *** comay has joined #opensolaris [12:31:54] *** ggeecko has quit IRC [12:33:17] *** ggeecko has joined #opensolaris [12:37:24] *** mikefut has joined #opensolaris [12:39:24] *** CIA-25 has quit IRC [12:40:49] *** digifor has quit IRC [12:41:07] *** digifor has joined #opensolaris [12:42:12] *** sartek has quit IRC [12:45:29] *** h3sp4wn has joined #opensolaris [12:46:46] <twisti> codestr0m, ping [12:46:53] <codestr0m> twisti: pong [12:49:00] <twisti> codestr0m, About Rhythmbox, I wondered why the MP3 tag editing does not work and it seems there is a configure flag missing. [12:49:09] <twisti> I just looked at the spec files. [12:49:15] <twisti> I wonder if this is another license issue. [12:50:09] <codestr0m> twisti: well.. no built-in mp3 support and I guess why add the tag editing :P [12:50:54] <twisti> Because everyone is downloading the Fluendo plugin? [12:50:55] <codestr0m> twisti: personally.. I prefer exaile over rhythmbox, but getting it up and running isn't documented [12:51:07] <codestr0m> twisti: that or using whatever slop is in blastwave [12:51:14] <twisti> As I do. [12:51:33] <twisti> But I guess everyone installs any kind of mp3 decoder. [12:51:41] <twisti> And tag editing would be a good idea than. [12:52:11] <codestr0m> twisti: sure. in my build of amarok or exaile or whatever I end up bundling I'll make sure to include the obvious ;) [12:52:23] <twisti> :) [12:52:42] <codestr0m> twisti: I hate ncurses [12:54:18] <twisti> Hehe. [12:54:51] <codestr0m> I can totally understand why it seems so neglected in most distros.. [12:55:00] *** thinko has quit IRC [12:55:06] *** thinko has joined #opensolaris [12:55:10] <codestr0m> tons of incremental patches.. getting the thing to build in a minimal chroot is a pita [12:55:21] <codestr0m> a crapload of build options [13:04:32] <h3sp4wn> twisti: Do you not find the mad based mp3 decoder sounds better ? [13:06:00] *** Odin- has joined #opensolaris [13:18:57] <twisti> h3sp4wn, I'm not sure I have tried that one yet. [13:22:33] *** bahumbug has joined #opensolaris [13:22:40] *** capitano__ has quit IRC [13:23:12] *** CIA-25 has joined #opensolaris [13:26:47] *** MrBIOS_ has quit IRC [13:28:53] <twisti> codestr0m, Had a quick look at the rhythmbox code and it seems it's not limitied to mp3. [13:34:13] <digifor> why would /etc/resolv/comf dissapear after each reboot? [13:35:03] <rgl> is it possible to use UTF-8 locale in opensolaris? [13:36:55] <codestr0m> rgl: yes [13:37:35] <codestr0m> twisti: I use rhythmbox only as a last resort.. honestly [13:37:38] <rgl> codestr0m, since when? [13:37:46] <houst0n-> Amarok > * [13:38:04] <codestr0m> rgl: I can't speak historically.. I know svn_96 at least and probably some time before that [13:38:29] <rgl> codestr0m, what is svn_96? [13:39:22] <digifor> /etc/resolv.conf sorry bout typo [13:39:23] <codestr0m> rgl: sorry.. os2008.xx should support UTF-8 [13:39:44] <codestr0m> digifor: umm. just a random guess, but could be related to dhcp? [13:39:56] <rgl> codestr0m, is that the build of opensolaris? eg b96? [13:40:07] <twisti> codestr0m, What is better in Exaile? [13:41:31] <houst0n-> nothing, it's written in pygtk [13:41:33] <houst0n-> afaik [13:41:34] <codestr0m> twisti: in general exaile could handle my 25k mp3.. uses mutagen for the mp3 tags (a lot better processor) and a few other things.. [13:41:35] * houst0n- shudders [13:41:52] <twisti> I see. [13:42:18] <codestr0m> I wouldn't actually recommend it over rhythmbox unless it solves a specific need though [13:42:19] <twisti> I file a RFE for tag writing. [13:42:26] <codestr0m> that's probably best [13:43:39] *** evocallaghan has joined #opensolaris [13:44:01] *** evocallaghan has left #opensolaris [13:46:49] <twisti> codestr0m, http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=4066 [13:47:39] <codestr0m> it'll probably get lost in some license audit :P [13:48:05] <twisti> As it's code in rhythmbox, I hope not. [13:48:37] <twisti> It actually just one function affected. [13:49:02] <twisti> http://rafb.net/p/PZlhf013.html [13:50:47] *** hspaans has joined #opensolaris [13:51:17] *** vmlemon_ has joined #opensolaris [13:58:42] *** Odin- has joined #opensolaris [14:09:11] *** myrkraverk has joined #opensolaris [14:09:14] <digifor> thanks codestr0m googling for more info [14:09:51] <codestr0m> digifor: the same thing happens in linux, but other than the hint not sure where to point you at... [14:18:47] <houst0n-> Anyone know if the kde4 people have pkgs for automoc and phonon kicking around anywhere? [14:22:55] <codestr0m> houst0n-: you can check the cvsdude repo [14:23:43] <houst0n-> Yeah I've been wanting to avoid that :P [14:23:46] <houst0n-> It's massive [14:23:54] <codestr0m> houst0n-: there's an online browser [14:24:00] <codestr0m> yes. it's 4G [14:24:05] <codestr0m> I have it local [14:24:15] <houst0n-> Just trying to get kdelibs built without arts, got QT4 from SFE which works perfectly [14:24:19] *** myrkraverk` has quit IRC [14:24:29] <houst0n-> Pretty cool all in all, I'm not a big cmake fan though [14:24:33] <codestr0m> oh. amarok huh? [14:24:39] <houst0n-> ja [14:24:46] <codestr0m> easy guess [14:25:13] <houst0n-> The king of all media players .. I'll fire the pkgs somewhere if I ever build it ;) [14:25:48] <codestr0m> houst0n-: well. if mine get done before yours I'll help you ;) [14:25:56] <codestr0m> otherwise the contribution is welcomed [14:25:59] *** stukag has quit IRC [14:26:47] <houst0n-> hehe [14:27:07] <houst0n-> I got smplayer going the other day without a sinlge issue, scary [14:27:29] <codestr0m> houst0n-: are you using sun cc or gcc? [14:27:41] <houst0n-> Ah, for smplayer/qt it was gcc [14:27:55] <houst0n-> 3.x [14:28:01] <codestr0m> yeah.. switch over to sun cc and help port bits [14:28:19] <houst0n-> I've got 11 and 12 installed, what's everyone else using? [14:28:40] *** stukag has joined #opensolaris [14:28:46] <codestr0m> I was using SSX, but switched over to SS12 since O/N needs it and everything else might as well use it [14:29:08] <houst0n-> Has ON moved to 12? from b100? [14:29:18] *** dmarkey_ has joined #opensolaris [14:29:39] *** gottadoit has quit IRC [14:29:49] <codestr0m> yeah. ON needs 12 now.. they released some patches so it all works [14:29:57] <houst0n-> Nice =) [14:30:07] <codestr0m> so make sure you have a working patchadd before attempting it [14:39:23] *** sartek has joined #opensolaris [14:41:59] *** mrtimdog has joined #opensolaris [14:42:36] *** spiki has joined #opensolaris [14:42:40] *** gottadoit has joined #opensolaris [14:47:59] *** spiki has quit IRC [14:48:12] <CosmicDJ> or just use the tarball from http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/tools/sun_studio_tools/ [14:48:43] <CosmicDJ> ah damn "A tarball containing an install image of Sun Studio 12 with appropriate patches is being created and will be posted soon." [14:49:41] <codestr0m> coming soon to a desktop near you :P [14:49:45] *** microchip_ has joined #opensolaris [14:54:30] *** MC_MCslp has joined #opensolaris [14:58:10] *** klg has joined #opensolaris [15:01:10] <kimc> is opensolaris using the 'PADL' client libraries for LDAP? [15:02:10] <kimc> there are lots of references around the 'net for setting up an LDAP client on Solaris [15:02:26] <kimc> not much on setting up LDAP on Opensolaris.. [15:03:36] <CosmicDJ> IIRC there's no LDAP server included... you have to install one yourself [15:03:41] <CosmicDJ> + because [15:04:14] <kimc> right no server, its easy to compile and install OpenLDAP on Opensolaris [15:04:51] <CosmicDJ> it easier to get Sun's LDAP server IMHO ;) [15:05:26] <kimc> i found its not so easy to install Sun's server on opensolaris though [15:06:04] <kimc> the installation system isn't setup for Opensolaris it seems [15:06:36] <kimc> The Sun Java-powered DS is what you're referring to right? [15:07:13] <CosmicDJ> are we talking about sxce or 200x.yz ? [15:07:57] <kimc> sxce [15:09:47] <CosmicDJ> hm ok, I had no idea it doesn't work on sxce... [15:09:59] <kimc> it has been proposed that OpenLDAP be integrated into Opensolaris: http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/sparks-discuss/2008-August/thread.html#727 [15:10:53] <kimc> it could probably be made to work but the installation program fails before its completed.. [15:11:08] <_mary_kate_> kimc: did you use the zip distribution or the SVR4 packages? [15:11:25] <kimc> the zip distribution [15:11:38] <_mary_kate_> which part fails, the create-instance? [15:12:34] <kimc> its been a few months since i tried it last, don't remember the point of stoppage [15:13:36] <kimc> i'm also interested in setting up the ldap server to work with O [15:13:41] <kimc> Os X clients [15:13:58] *** teo` has joined #opensolaris [15:14:01] <kimc> there isn't much info around on doing that with the Sun product [15:14:17] <kimc> quite a bit on doing it with OpenLDAP [15:15:29] <kimc> even with all the write-ups on the 'net about interoperation of Solaris and OS X clients with an OpenLDAP server [15:15:40] <kimc> its still not easy [15:17:11] <kimc> on the [Open]Solaris side theres not much info on doing it the 'modern' way [15:18:06] <kimc> some info available on doing it using a setup involving NIS.. that type of operation is imho obsolete [15:18:28] *** syamajala has joined #opensolaris [15:20:24] <syamajala> hi i'm trying to mount a smb share [15:21:15] *** lesterc has quit IRC [15:21:36] <kimc> syamajala: check this out: http://opensolaris.org/os/project/cifs-server/docs/ [15:22:15] <syamajala> well actually it looks like i was able to mount it [15:22:31] <syamajala> now i need to figure out how to get it to mount at boot [15:24:18] <kimc> The check this out: http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/820-2429/smbclientadmintaskstm?a=view [15:24:45] <CosmicDJ> kimc: how many clients? [15:24:51] <kimc> it includes: Use this procedure if you want a CIFS share to be automatically mounted at boot time. [15:25:09] <kimc> CosmicDJ: just a few [15:25:28] <CosmicDJ> kimc: then LDAP is IMHO overkill, just go with NIS [15:26:02] <syamajala> i see that [15:26:03] <kimc> i want to have a central server for both Opensolaris and OS X clients [15:26:35] *** klg has quit IRC [15:26:36] <CosmicDJ> both OpenSolaris and OS X support NIS [15:27:11] <kimc> yes but investing more time in NIS seems like a step backward [15:28:25] <CosmicDJ> you can setup a NIS in about 5mins [15:28:30] <CosmicDJ> NIS+server [15:28:42] <kimc> ahh ok [15:29:19] <syamajala> for some reason i seem to be missing autofs [15:29:32] <kimc> but on the OS X side you wouldn't get the full functionality of their Directory thingy [15:31:00] <CosmicDJ> what functionality? [15:31:13] <kimc> syamajala: are you sure you need that with CIFS? [15:32:05] <syamajala> well i don't have the /etc/auto_direct file [15:32:18] <kimc> i'm not a big proponent of the Apple Directory system but if you want it you need to support LDAP [15:32:47] <CosmicDJ> it also supports NIS after some mouseclicks... [15:34:19] <kimc> ahh ok i'll check that out [15:35:46] <syamajala> kimc: i tried creating one, but isn't there some daemon that supposed to be restarted [15:37:33] *** MrBIOS_ has joined #OpenSolaris [15:40:58] <kimc> syamajala: svcs -a | grep smb [15:41:24] <syamajala> i need SUNWatfsr and SUNWatfsu [15:41:33] <kimc> man: smb [15:41:52] <kimc> what are those packages? [15:41:58] *** luc^ has quit IRC [15:42:03] <syamajala> the autofs packages [15:42:10] <syamajala> samba sharing and mounting is working [15:42:22] <syamajala> but i'm missing the auto mounting daemons and utils [15:42:25] <kimc> cifs and samba are different thiings [15:42:39] <kimc> me thinks.. [15:43:01] <kimc> the new way is to use CIFS not samba [15:43:22] <syamajala> i just used mount to mount the share and it worked [15:43:25] <_mary_kate_> kimc: CIFS is the protocol that Samba implements [15:43:25] <oxygene> samba is indispensable if you want to do CIFS from zones [15:43:37] <_mary_kate_> kimc: opensolaris now has an in-kernel CIFS server as an alternative to samba [15:43:43] <syamajala> mount -f smbfs //user:pass@ip/share /mnt [15:44:02] <syamajala> i'm trying to figure out how to get it to do that at boot [15:44:28] *** mrtimdog has left #opensolaris [15:44:34] <kimc> ok thanks _mary_kate i was never clear on that [15:44:36] <oxygene> syamajala: probably by adding //user:pass@ip/share /mnt fstype=smbfs into vfstab? [15:44:46] <_mary_kate_> i don't think putting a password in vfstab is a good idea :) [15:45:49] *** Tobbe has joined #opensolaris [15:45:52] *** espo has joined #opensolaris [15:45:55] <oxygene> well, the question wasn't how to do it right ;) [15:46:22] *** geronimos has joined #opensolaris [15:46:34] <geronimos> hello [15:47:02] <geronimos> is apache V2 has bug in opensolaris [15:47:12] <geronimos> does * [15:47:26] <oxygene> it probably has - like every other non-complex software out there, too [15:47:39] <oxygene> erm.. non-trivial ;) [15:47:52] <oxygene> though non-complex software usually has a surprising high bug count, too [15:48:22] <geronimos> cause i install it and i run , but when i type 127.0.0.1 don't have anything error [15:51:35] <kimc> looks like getting opensolaris to use ldap is not something many people write about on the net [15:52:23] <kimc> opensolaris ldap client that is [15:53:07] <syamajala> i think i figured it out [15:53:30] *** syamajala has quit IRC [15:54:38] <kimc> getting an OS X client to use OpenLDAP as if it were an Apple OpenDirectory server is a lot easier with access to a working OS X server to reverse engineer [15:54:57] <kimc> maybe i need one of those too.. [15:55:37] <kimc> syamajala: how did you do it? [15:55:52] <oxygene> kimc: hmm.. I found a tutorial once, incl. two schemas for openldap to support solaris clients [15:56:38] <kimc> nis.schema and solaris.schema ? [15:56:45] <oxygene> kimc: http://www.bolthole.com/solaris/LDAP.html [15:56:49] <oxygene> could be it, but I'm not sure [15:57:46] <kimc> yes thats pretty good information thanks [15:58:38] <Tobbe> Does OpenSolaris support OpenAP, or is there anything else like it for OpenSolaris? [15:58:46] <kimc> it refers to 'PADL' which appears to be a small company offering consulting services among other things [15:59:31] <kimc> is OpenAP a wireless access point? [15:59:57] <Tobbe> it's software for using your linux box as a wireless accesspoint [16:00:52] <Tobbe> software/driver/daemon... [16:00:56] <SunTzuTech> I kinda doubt it. Sun seems to be slow tracking ieee80211 changes. AFAIK, none of the wifi adapters support ibss [16:01:10] <kimc> i don't think there is anything for Opensolaris like openap [16:01:19] <Tobbe> :( that's too bad [16:01:51] <kimc> i think there is for FreeBSD [16:02:00] <Tobbe> yes, there is [16:02:29] <_mary_kate_> kimc: PADL produce a pam_ldap and nss_ldap implementation which are popular in linux [16:02:31] <Tobbe> but FreeBSD doesn't have as good support for zfs as openSolaris does [16:02:41] <kimc> right [16:02:49] *** MrBIOS_ has quit IRC [16:04:59] *** MrBIOS_ has joined #OpenSolaris [16:05:41] <Tobbe> SunTzuTech: there seems to be some kind of ibss support: http://blogs.sun.com/judychen/entry/creating_ad_hoc_wireless_connection [16:07:23] <kimc> _mary_kate: on this snv-99 machine in /usr/lib/security: pam_ldap.so.1 [16:08:02] *** jstephan_ has quit IRC [16:10:30] <houst0n-> Does anyone know what happened to sxce 100? [16:10:40] <houst0n-> I can't spot anything re: why it's not out .. [16:12:01] *** Fish has joined #opensolaris [16:12:35] <houst0n-> Guess not? [16:27:08] *** kohju has quit IRC [16:27:33] <digifor> how do I find the exact name of a zydas wireless device? [16:29:50] <SunTzuTech> digifor: what do you mean? (I maintain zydas...) [16:30:03] *** e1kg1 has quit IRC [16:30:16] <twisti> What may be a reason the system monitor applet does not show disk I/O anymore? [16:30:22] <SunTzuTech> Tobbe: oh, that's new. might explain the changes in the ieee80211 that occurred recently [16:31:13] <SunTzuTech> digifor: typically, the device name will be zyd0. the big issue is there are at least 70 different manufacturers of the device with 2 chipsets and 8 radios.... [16:31:24] *** e1kg has joined #OpenSolaris [16:31:30] <SunTzuTech> so getting the right USB id for driver_aliases can be a little daunting... [16:32:05] <digifor> SunTzuTech, I am looking for the device id. I think we may be emailing ofline [16:32:35] <digifor> lshal | grep usb [16:33:24] <digifor> I can see ZyDas and a vendor id 2766 just above it [16:34:49] <digifor> product id 4629 [16:35:16] *** fr4g has joined #opensolaris [16:37:17] <codestr0m> how do I look up an error code from sun CC make[4]: *** [lzmp.o] Error 255 [16:37:57] <oxygene> look at the error message [16:38:05] *** microchip_ has quit IRC [16:38:27] <codestr0m> oxygene: that is the error message [16:38:43] <codestr0m> my script fails.. yet I go into that dir and type gmake and it builds just fine [16:39:06] <codestr0m> if I even copy/paste the same failing line it works [16:41:09] *** vmlemon_ has quit IRC [16:41:46] *** vmlemon_ has joined #opensolaris [16:43:06] <oxygene> codestr0m: different makes behave very different. the makefile is probably gnu make specific [16:43:08] <digifor> So /usr/sbin/add_drv -n -i '"2766,4629"' zyd or do I just give up and have an ABC Stout? [16:43:28] <oxygene> update_drv -a -i '"usb2766,4629"' zyd, I think [16:43:35] <codestr0m> oxygene: I only have 1 make in this chroot [16:43:35] <oxygene> or add_drv, if it's not installed, yes [16:44:38] <digifor> thanks oxygene [16:46:04] *** microchip_ has joined #opensolaris [16:49:59] <SunTzuTech> digifor: yeah. you might want to add it to the Makefile so you don't forget. if it works, email me so I can add it to the tree [16:51:03] <digifor> SunTzuTech, will do [16:51:03] <twisti> I have a question: [16:51:19] *** SYS64738 has joined #opensolaris [16:51:28] <SYS64738> hi [16:51:44] <SunTzuTech> digifor: you may also want to do an svn update. I just added includes for b99 (big changes) from teh onnv-gate and did some other reorganization. [16:51:47] <twisti> I had many problems with NWAM (it took my interface down very often without a reason) do I set up my WIFI connection manually. [16:51:56] <twisti> Is there a way to bring it up after reboot? [16:52:20] <SunTzuTech> twisti: you have a fixed configuration? [16:52:26] <twisti> Yes. [16:52:30] <twisti> Well, kind of. [16:52:38] <twisti> I'm still using DHCP. [16:53:13] <SunTzuTech> that's still a fixed config. [16:53:18] <twisti> OK [16:53:54] <twisti> I would also be fine if NWAM would work, but... [16:54:31] <SunTzuTech> i use inetmenu. some people like, some don't. I prefer it cause I've never been able to make NWAM do what I want it to do... [16:54:56] *** bahumbug has quit IRC [16:54:58] <twisti> Does inetmenu work with WIFI connections? [16:56:05] <digifor> Still getting the config files modified but zyd driver not loaded... [16:56:52] <digifor> i may connect the cable and do the svn update [16:56:56] <SunTzuTech> twisti: been using it for 4 years with wifi connections [16:57:30] <SunTzuTech> digifor: is it a usb key, or is the wifi adapter builtin to your laptop? [16:59:24] *** teo` has quit IRC [16:59:28] *** Asako has joined #opensolaris [17:00:09] <twisti> SunTzuTech, Thanks, maybe I give it a try. [17:02:47] *** syamajala has joined #opensolaris [17:04:32] <digifor> SunTzuTech, wifi adaptor buildt in [17:05:25] *** jfndi has joined #opensolaris [17:14:43] *** LordIllpalazo has joined #opensolaris [17:15:39] <SunTzuTech> digifor: what OS are you running, specifically, the release? [17:16:43] *** Fish has quit IRC [17:16:44] *** Fish- has joined #opensolaris [17:18:22] *** anilg has joined #opensolaris [17:26:22] *** Kitty_ has joined #opensolaris [17:26:22] *** Kitty has quit IRC [17:28:32] *** luc^ has joined #opensolaris [17:29:08] *** digifor has quit IRC [17:29:40] *** fr4g has quit IRC [17:30:54] *** edgy has joined #opensolaris [17:32:57] *** digifor has joined #opensolaris [17:33:37] *** syamajala has quit IRC [17:33:53] <hile_> hey Ben - is there a more firm date for update 6 yet? [17:34:23] <digifor> SunTzuTech: trying the build 99 revision 63 [17:34:52] <digifor> zyd.c:115: error: storage size of `zyd_rateset_11b' isn't known [17:34:57] *** syamajala has joined #opensolaris [17:35:11] <digifor> zyd.c:119: error: storage size of `zyd_rateset_11g' isn't known [17:35:53] <_mary_kate_> is sil3124 supported in RAID mode? [17:36:22] <oxygene> "RAID mode"? you mean softraid? [17:36:36] *** g-hennux has joined #opensolaris [17:36:39] <g-hennux> hi! [17:36:40] <_mary_kate_> oxygene: i don't know, something describes itself as having this controller for a RAID controller [17:36:52] <g-hennux> how can i stop the x-server from being started on bootup? [17:37:07] <oxygene> _mary_kate_: that's software in its bios to load the operating system just enough so their custom sata driver can implement software raid [17:37:39] *** sparcdr has joined #opensolaris [17:38:04] <digifor> g-hennux pfexec svcadm disable gdm I think [17:38:11] *** KOHJU has joined #opensolaris [17:38:12] *** KOHJU is now known as kohju [17:38:14] *** kohju has quit IRC [17:38:32] *** KOHJU has joined #opensolaris [17:38:44] *** KOHJU is now known as kohju [17:38:58] *** sparcdr has quit IRC [17:39:31] <g-hennux> digifor: thank you [17:39:51] <digifor> this might be good for you: http://tanesha.net/blojsom/blog/default/2008/05/24/OpenSolaris-server-install-no-gdm-mirrored-disks [17:40:07] *** sparcdr has joined #opensolaris [17:40:22] *** sparcdr has left #opensolaris [17:40:28] *** sparcdr has joined #opensolaris [17:40:47] <g-hennux> and is there any way to have a terminal larger than the default 80x25? [17:41:31] <g-hennux> i mean, in text mode [17:42:37] *** sparcdr has left #opensolaris [17:45:23] *** h3sp4wn has quit IRC [17:48:04] *** syamajala has quit IRC [17:49:47] <Asako> anybody know why virtual box would get stuck trying to spawn a session? [17:50:11] *** nachox has joined #opensolaris [17:50:24] *** dsch04 has quit IRC [17:50:26] <CosmicDJ> g-hennux: if your font is 80x25, then it should be very large already ;) [17:54:18] *** PicCard has quit IRC [17:55:25] <CosmicDJ> r: [17:55:25] <CosmicDJ> 113 (No route to host)] [17:55:38] <CosmicDJ> damn, -> http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/10/15/377 [17:55:39] *** Odin- has quit IRC [17:55:57] <CosmicDJ> next linux kernel release could be called 2009.1.0... [17:56:38] *** Shiv has joined #opensolaris [17:57:17] <CosmicDJ> sounds much like opensolaris 200x.xx [17:58:43] *** mega has joined #opensolaris [18:01:17] *** dsch04 has joined #opensolaris [18:02:20] *** tg has quit IRC [18:02:24] *** tg_ has joined #opensolaris [18:02:37] *** tg_ is now known as tg [18:04:59] <dsop> hmm there is no gnu find on indiana? [18:05:22] <tomww> sounds crazy :-) probably in /usr/gnu/bin ? [18:05:45] <dsop> tomww: no [18:05:54] <tomww> gfind anywhere? [18:06:24] <dsop> no [18:06:48] <tomww> okay, there should be a chance if you search the IPS repository (IIRC the -r switch) [18:07:26] <dsop> there is just a xcu4 and cs version, which means /usr/bin/find and /usr/xpg4/bin/find [18:07:40] <dsop> and both don't fit the need to compile quilt [18:08:23] <oxygene> then fix quilt [18:09:10] <tomww> hm. something like "pkg search -r find" ? [18:09:27] <dsop> tomww: that was the result [18:09:57] <tomww> really? wow I'm a osnnnn.mm champ :-) [18:10:34] <dsop> tomww: I mean, there is no gnu find util in the ips repos [18:11:10] <oxygene> look for fileutils or textutils (or whatever gnu *utils they hide find in) [18:11:28] *** stukag has quit IRC [18:11:45] <tomww> probably findutils [18:12:02] <oxygene> or that [18:12:23] <digifor> can you pkg search *utils? [18:13:25] <digifor> yes but you get a lot [18:14:12] <CosmicDJ> seaching for a gnu packagename isn't very helpful because opensolaris is using its own pkg naming conventions (see pkg.opensolaris.org) [18:15:20] <digifor> I would love to find wvdial named according to OS pkg naming conventions. [18:15:29] *** stukag has joined #opensolaris [18:15:57] *** PicCard has joined #opensolaris [18:16:12] <CosmicDJ> if you can't find the command "wvdial" with -r; then it hasn't been packaged it [18:16:19] <CosmicDJ> s/it/yet/ [18:19:00] <digifor> that is what I thought :'( [18:19:13] <CosmicDJ> digifor: http://alumnit.ca/wiki/index.php?page=WvDialFAQ#toc7 [18:19:26] <dsop> i searched for different patterns but no gnu find [18:19:43] *** Fish- has quit IRC [18:21:21] *** Odin- has joined #opensolaris [18:21:30] <digifor> Thanks CosmicDJ I have been there. Using the source I got: ld: fatal: Symbol referencing errors. No output written to uuid/bin/tst_uuid [18:21:35] <CosmicDJ> dsop: check blastwave or sunfreeware, I'm sure they have a pkg with gfind in it [18:22:04] *** Fish has joined #opensolaris [18:22:29] [18:22:34] <g-hennux> what happens here? [18:24:23] <tomww> libs look into the locale I think and say, well, no valid chacters there.try using another locale or even UTF-8 [18:25:09] *** Shiv has quit IRC [18:25:23] <g-hennux> ah ok, this is a text console problem... the gterm displays the characters correctly [18:26:09] <tomww> you have the same locale on both? (typing locale in each place) [18:28:18] <g-hennux> tomww: yes, locale is de_DE.UTF-8 on both [18:28:36] *** xRaich[o]2x has quit IRC [18:30:07] *** [RIT]Rawn027 has joined #opensolaris [18:30:52] *** [RIT]Rawn027 has quit IRC [18:31:03] *** [RIT]Rawn027 has joined #opensolaris [18:31:21] *** jfndi has quit IRC [18:31:32] *** [RIT]Rawn027 has quit IRC [18:31:45] *** [RIT]Rawn027 has joined #opensolaris [18:31:48] <digifor> Whye is it that when they show compiling docs it is ./configure make make install [18:32:33] <digifor> when in real life you always get some wierd error message lke tar ld: fatal: Symbol referencing errors. No output written to uuid/bin/tst_uuid [18:32:41] *** swa has joined #opensolaris [18:33:55] *** PicCard has quit IRC [18:34:16] *** edgy has left #opensolaris [18:34:47] *** PicCard has joined #opensolaris [18:34:52] *** g-hennux has quit IRC [18:35:19] *** swa_mobil has joined #opensolaris [18:37:45] *** Fish has quit IRC [18:40:15] *** Fish has joined #opensolaris [18:41:40] *** vim has joined #opensolaris [18:42:08] *** vim is now known as Guest39692 [18:42:51] *** swa has quit IRC [18:44:26] *** Guest39692 has quit IRC [18:50:23] *** ibuclaw has joined #opensolaris [18:50:32] *** minidev has joined #opensolaris [18:50:33] <ibuclaw> hello [18:50:57] <ibuclaw> houst0n-, just to let you know... I've fixed the problem [18:53:16] <minidev> Hi there. Is there a simple way to install the zfs gui for sun java web console in opensolaris? [18:54:04] *** Ignacio_ has joined #opensolaris [18:54:33] *** Ignacio_ has quit IRC [18:57:38] *** nexnode has quit IRC [19:02:13] *** digifor has quit IRC [19:02:57] *** mega has quit IRC [19:03:16] *** mega has joined #opensolaris [19:04:27] *** RavenSlay3r has joined #opensolaris [19:09:40] *** nachox has quit IRC [19:10:27] *** minidev has quit IRC [19:13:29] *** derchris has joined #opensolaris [19:13:35] *** minidev has joined #opensolaris [19:20:33] *** niq has joined #opensolaris [19:24:11] *** dom_ has quit IRC [19:24:31] <espo> hey i got a question i tried to install opensolaris b99 but after choosing it in grub (Opensolaris 2008.11 snv_99 x86) it stands on the output like this: SunOS Release 5.11 Version snv_99 64-bit .... Use is subject to license terms. And thats it it stands there for a long long time :/ [19:24:44] *** Tilt has quit IRC [19:24:55] <espo> i got a amd e4850 and a nvidia chip. [19:27:26] *** h3sp4wn has joined #opensolaris [19:28:02] *** CIA-25 has quit IRC [19:28:21] *** fr4g has joined #opensolaris [19:29:02] <jamesd> espo, add a -v to second line of grub... and also check sun.com/bigadmin/hcl [19:30:10] *** xRaich[o]2x has joined #opensolaris [19:30:21] <espo> jamesd: okay thx i will do [19:30:33] *** minidev has quit IRC [19:30:50] *** Tilt has joined #OpenSolaris [19:33:24] *** edgy has joined #opensolaris [19:34:32] <Asako> is there a gui for zfs? [19:34:42] <Tilt> ... [19:34:45] *** freakazoid0223 has quit IRC [19:34:52] *** RavenSlay3r has quit IRC [19:35:01] <Asako> I'm just wondering how they got these green bars in the zfs demo [19:35:05] <Tilt> for example to do what ? [19:35:16] <Asako> show failures, etc. [19:35:42] <espo> hmm it "dies" on kb80420 is /isa/i8042@1,60/keyboard@0 :) [19:35:44] <edgy> Hi, I found this statement on the net "The system searches the profiles in order, starting with the profiles in user_attr(4), then the default profiles from /etc/security/policy.conf, followed by All, if NOT already specified" but when I use profiles command it seems All comes before policy.conf, what's correct please? [19:36:01] <Tilt> i would have to go look at the demo again to tell you.... so far as i know, their is not a gui monitoring tool.... but it would be VERY easy to write one [19:36:40] <Asako> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CN6iDzesEs0&feature=related [19:36:56] <Asako> yeah, guess I could script something [19:37:33] <edgy> Asako: of course there is [19:38:14] <edgy> Asako: http://blogs.sun.com/talley/entry/manage_zfs_from_your_browser [19:38:19] <Tilt> oh... i have not seen this video, lemme watch it and i can probably tell you what the "bars" are [19:38:50] *** vmlemon_ has quit IRC [19:39:21] <Asako> thanks [19:40:13] *** vmlemon_ has joined #opensolaris [19:41:13] <Asako> has anybody tried putting centos 4 on a zone? [19:42:15] *** Alasdairrr has joined #opensolaris [19:43:37] <espo> jamesd: the first prob was my keyboard :D. And now i got a message that console login service(s) cannot run. [19:45:21] <Tilt> that video looks like it's just a disk monitor [19:45:45] <Asako> does it actually run the kernel? [19:47:36] <Asako> yeah, some type of io meter [19:47:52] <CosmicDJ> Asako: which scene? [19:48:04] <CosmicDJ> min:sec ? [19:48:15] <Tilt> it looks like the disk/memory monitor from cde almost [19:48:18] <Asako> it's all the green bars on the left [19:48:34] <Asako> no big deal, just wondering [19:48:43] <Tilt> on the screen you can see it.... goto about 7:25 [19:48:59] <Tilt> and when he smashes the second drive you can clearly see it just stop.... [19:49:22] <Tilt> i like how the array doesn't recover 'till he unplugs the hd's though.... [19:49:47] <Asako> yeah, that's weird [19:52:09] <Tilt> probably just becuse of power being shorted [19:52:31] <Tilt> i've simulated by just unpluggins HD's and it recovered fine [19:53:14] <Asako> I've done it in linux [19:53:32] <Tilt> on zfs ? [19:53:55] <Asako> nah, mdadm [19:54:43] <Tilt> zfs is 1000x easier to administer though [19:54:47] <Tilt> imo [19:55:12] <Tilt> and doesn't freak on endieness [19:56:26] *** vmlemon_ has quit IRC [19:56:55] <Asako> yeah, much better [19:58:11] *** e|p has joined #opensolaris [19:59:12] *** e|p has quit IRC [20:09:22] *** vmlemon_ has joined #opensolaris [20:11:19] <Asako> never worried about endian issues, all I work on is pc hardware [20:14:47] *** CIA-25 has joined #opensolaris [20:20:02] *** jgracin has joined #opensolaris [20:21:29] *** swa_mobil has quit IRC [20:25:46] <Asako> aww, zoneadm won't let me install cent 4 [20:26:15] <oxygene> centos4 is based on linux2.6, I think. it has some syscalls that aren't supported yet. [20:27:02] <Asako> yeah, just wanted to try it [20:27:05] <jamesd> then you will just have to use xvm [20:27:09] <_mary_kate_> Asako: the ZFS GUI is part of webconsole [20:27:15] <_mary_kate_> Asako: enable the service, then visit https://localhost:6789 [20:27:19] <Asako> 3.9 is fine [20:27:35] <Asako> thanks [20:27:43] <Asako> don't think that's in opensolaris [20:29:27] *** Tilt has quit IRC [20:30:34] *** Tilt has joined #opensolaris [20:32:53] <Yorlik> I'm building apache2 from SFW using the method descibed here: http://opensolaris.org/os/project/sfwnv/Documents/install_quickstart/ . Unfortunately in the standard build the mysql dbd driver for apr-util doen't get compiled. Usually this is done with the --with-mysql=(path-to-mysql) option when using configure. How can I fix this and still use the standard method to make apache2 with "make... [20:32:55] <Yorlik> ...-f Makefile.sfw" . I need to know which file to change and where in this frightening setup. [20:32:59] *** ninjaslim has joined #opensolaris [20:41:40] *** Chipdancer_ has joined #opensolaris [20:42:00] *** MrBIOS_ has left #OpenSolaris [20:47:56] <rgl> how do I see which process has a given socket openned? in linux, I could do this: netstat -anp. [20:48:08] <_mary_kate_> rgl: lsof [20:48:17] <_mary_kate_> rgl: or google for 'pcp', a small shell script that does that [20:48:30] <rgl> there is no other way? lsof seems overkill and takes to much time to run. [20:48:32] <xRaich[o]2x> I'm looking for a decent solaris laptop. any recommendation [20:49:09] <trygvis> xRaich[o]2x: IIRC there are a couple of laptops on the HCL now [20:49:10] <_mary_kate_> rgl: didn't i just give you two ways? [20:49:15] *** vmlemon_ has quit IRC [20:49:22] <trygvis> and there was a blog the other day about laptops that support sleep [20:49:25] *** slx86_ has joined #opensolaris [20:49:32] <Asako> dtrace? [20:49:36] *** slx86_ has left #opensolaris [20:50:00] <jamesd> trygvis, who use a laptop for sleep... a pillow and blanket is much more effiecient. [20:50:11] *** Chipdancer has quit IRC [20:50:40] *** slx86 has joined #opensolaris [20:51:03] <rgl> _mary_kate_, indeed. thanks! [20:51:50] <xRaich[o]2x> trygvis: thanks i saw that list already, just wanted to know if anyone has a specifiy favourite notebook ;) [20:53:31] <Tilt> dell, anything centrino seems to work well [20:54:51] <Tilt> take your live CD to the store and boot the laptops off it and check the device thingie :) [20:55:00] <Tilt> ppl at stores LOVE when you do that [20:55:08] <Tilt> trust me ;) [20:55:17] <xRaich[o]2x> the thinkpads seem to be pretty good. dunno about the sl series looks pretty good :) [20:55:38] <xRaich[o]2x> Tilt: i already asked if i could do that. they gave me permission [20:55:59] <Tilt> very nice.... i didn't ask [20:56:13] <Asako> I wouldn't either [20:56:35] <Tilt> asus makes a decent laptop now days.... but like i said anything centrino should work well afaik [20:56:40] <Asako> not like you're running dban on it [20:57:00] <xRaich[o]2x> I'm still a bit undecided about the graphics card [20:57:13] <Tilt> i got kicked out of a sams club becuse i was checking laptops with my live CD [20:57:24] <Tilt> nvidia [20:57:50] <Tilt> i've heard ppl have had problems with ati's for some reason.... some flickering issues when clickin on windows or something [20:58:05] <Tilt> some guy was saying in here yesterday [20:58:39] <xRaich[o]2x> i still hope for intel 4500MHD support. that would make some more notebooks available [21:06:30] <CIA-25> Mark Shellenbaum <Mark.Shellenbaum at Sun dot COM>: 6760970 zfs_mkdir falsely returns EINVAL [21:06:42] *** euzao has joined #opensolaris [21:06:46] <euzao> hi [21:06:58] * Tilt waves hello [21:08:13] *** vmlemon_ has joined #opensolaris [21:10:03] *** slx86 has quit IRC [21:11:10] *** _Hunger is now known as Hunger [21:11:54] *** spiki has joined #opensolaris [21:12:11] *** slx861 has joined #opensolaris [21:13:49] *** pumpkin_ has quit IRC [21:14:16] *** edgy has left #opensolaris [21:15:21] *** slx861 has left #opensolaris [21:16:05] *** Hunger is now known as Hunger- [21:16:37] *** nowhere_man has quit IRC [21:17:12] *** nowhere_man has joined #opensolaris [21:18:44] *** pizdec has quit IRC [21:20:16] *** pizdec has joined #opensolaris [21:20:34] <Tilt> i don't think it's possible to watch a whole nascar race without falling asleep [21:21:02] <_mary_kate_> nascar is the one where they just drive around in a circle, right? [21:21:03] <Tilt> i been studying the effect of nascar on ppl..... it's a cure for insomnia so much as i can tell [21:21:11] <euzao> what is opensolaris for [21:21:24] <Tilt> yes.... but the're on a road race today [21:21:42] <Tilt> opensolaris is for.... ppl to use? [21:21:53] <CosmicDJ> euzao: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/about/ [21:22:28] <Tilt> thanks CosmicDJ, i didn't have the link handy :) [21:32:10] *** CIA-25 has quit IRC [21:35:30] *** fr4g has quit IRC [21:36:01] *** derchris has quit IRC [21:36:08] *** derchris has joined #opensolaris [21:37:53] *** MC_MCslp has quit IRC [21:39:38] *** ruse39[home]__ is now known as ruse39[home] [21:43:36] *** euzao has quit IRC [21:45:00] *** Odin- has quit IRC [21:46:00] *** saite-f00f_ has joined #opensolaris [21:50:51] <codestr0m> kito: ping [21:52:53] *** fr4g has joined #opensolaris [21:55:17] <Tilt> aany of you decent at python.... i can't quite understand the error that pkg is spewing to me.... i need some explination of the problem [21:58:27] <codestr0m> Tilt: if there's a bug feel free to report it or bug the guys in #pkg5 [21:59:01] <jamesd> i know some python ... hsss, hssss [22:00:16] <Tilt> http://rafb.net/p/nZV8f164.html [22:00:29] <Tilt> take a look, tell me if you think it's something local or a bug [22:00:49] *** saite-f00f_ has left #opensolaris [22:01:26] <jamesd> its not a bug, its a reptile, don't you know anything. [22:01:38] <Tilt> ever since i went from snv_98 to snv_99 its done this [22:02:09] <Tilt> looks like the xmp processor or something [22:02:13] <Tilt> xml [22:04:08] <Tilt> a "that's weird" or something would be nice ;) [22:04:25] <Tilt> just so i know i'm not just staring at a screen and nobody looked at the error [22:05:47] *** gehmehgeh has joined #opensolaris [22:07:08] *** Ouroboro has joined #opensolaris [22:10:20] *** Kitty_ is now known as Kitty [22:10:22] *** odog has joined #opensolaris [22:10:29] *** anilg has quit IRC [22:10:52] <odog> uh what is solaris do any way [22:11:04] <Tilt> it's an operating system [22:12:04] <Tilt> http://opensolaris.org/os/about/faq/general_faq/ [22:12:10] <Ouroboro> what is the ON URL, kinda hard to search for it on google :) [22:12:12] <odog> i see [22:12:38] *** odog has quit IRC [22:12:41] <Ouroboro> ah nm, i rememberd what it stands for [22:13:15] *** jor has joined #opensolaris [22:14:42] *** ra1 has quit IRC [22:14:42] *** fluffle has quit IRC [22:14:42] *** doof has quit IRC [22:14:42] *** CybDev has quit IRC [22:14:54] <Ouroboro> so what is the delay with the SXCE 100 DVD? will there even be one [22:15:05] *** h3sp4wn has quit IRC [22:15:17] *** h3sp4wn has joined #opensolaris [22:17:22] *** jgracin has quit IRC [22:20:25] *** CybDev has joined #opensolaris [22:22:00] *** Tobbe has left #opensolaris [22:25:41] *** teo` has joined #opensolaris [22:26:43] *** ninjaslim has quit IRC [22:27:18] *** microchip_ has quit IRC [22:33:15] *** jor has quit IRC [22:34:39] *** saite-f00f_ has joined #opensolaris [22:35:12] *** CIA-57 has joined #opensolaris [22:37:02] *** Ouroboro has quit IRC [22:44:34] *** vmlemon_ has quit IRC [22:46:32] *** Fish has quit IRC [22:47:19] *** vmlemon_ has joined #opensolaris [22:51:09] *** Rocket2DMn has joined #opensolaris [22:51:33] *** vmlemon_ has quit IRC [22:52:09] *** h3sp4wn has quit IRC [22:52:27] *** h3sp4wn has joined #opensolaris [22:53:51] <comay> Tilt, what happens when you run "pkg" without PYTHONPATH set? [22:54:18] <Tilt> pythonpath isn't set.... [22:54:25] <Tilt> atleast not by me [22:54:52] <Tilt> anything that reuires parsing of xml is what it chokes on... it accepts commands fine like "--help" [22:57:02] *** gottadoit` has joined #opensolaris [23:06:04] *** gottadoit has quit IRC [23:06:58] <comay> strange [23:08:41] <comay> do you have the JDS vermillion bits installed on your system? 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