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[00:10:12] <sailorvrz> using format -e and labeling SMI fixed the problem
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[00:15:04] <gnusosa> Anybody here successfully compiled conky port?
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[00:23:41] <nachox> conky?
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[00:35:35] <tomww> google says this is a ligthwight system monitor...
[00:36:56] <tomww> hmm. changelog doesn't know about "olaris" and "sun"
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[00:40:47] <tomww> configure too... "Your operating system SunOS isn't supported" "Feel free to help. :P"
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[00:41:47] <ruse39[home]> conky is ported by MilaX author
[00:41:58] <ruse39[home]> you can grab it from Milax Live CD for example
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[00:42:54] <ludc> I install the mplayer using the pkg-get but I dont find it?? why?
[00:43:07] <bda> Because the Blastwave paths aren't in your PATH.
[00:43:19] <ruse39[home]>  /opt/csw/bin/mplayer
[00:44:34] <ludc> bda: where I need put it?
[00:45:01] <ludc> ruse39[home]: I dont have this directory
[00:47:24] <ruse39[home]> so try to find where it is in your system
[00:47:28] <ruse39[home]> :)
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[00:55:30] <ludc> how to add blastwave in my pkg-get?
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[01:06:21] <evocallaghan> Hey
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[01:06:40] <evocallaghan> Has anyone got xcb going on solaris ?
[01:07:00] <evocallaghan> Google is not much help today, and I don't want to wast time reinventing the wheel
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[01:11:47] <victori_> xcb?
[01:15:18] <evocallaghan> X protocol C-language Binding (XCB)
[01:15:36] <evocallaghan> itsa replacement for Xlib
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[01:27:02] <evocallaghan> Right, it seems as though no one has ported xcb yet
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[01:59:28] <wonko2> hmmm, i wonder if my performance problems on my colo box are based on the fact that i'm running ZFS with 4GB ram on a 32-bit CPU
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[02:00:26] <nachox> 32 bit is uncool with zfs
[02:00:52] <wonko2> yeah
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[02:03:10] <bda> wonko2: Heh, RAM won't help you. Get benr's arc_summary.pl.
[02:03:29] <bda> I have an 8GB 32bit box. 1TB ZFS pool. It's .. very unhappy.
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[02:04:02] <e^ipi> PAE...
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[02:04:25] <e^ipi> there was an idiotic idea from the get-go
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[02:04:57] <bda> Yeah, I really need to go bounce that box and see if the mainboard has PAE-tweaking options.
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[02:23:13] <nachox> it extended 32bit x86 life for a couple of extra years
[02:28:36] <e^ipi> you say that as if it were a good thing
[02:30:41] <jbk> i have to wonder (I can't remember the timing to know if this is a valid guess or not) it was an attempt to tide things over until the itanic would conquer all
[02:31:22] <jbk> 4gb was becoming too small on the high end x86 and itanic wasn't ready yet (or didn't have the traction they were expecting)
[02:32:52] <nachox> hmm, it gave intel time to introduce their itanic crap... til amd changed the game entirely with amd64 at lease :)
[02:33:17] <jbk> yeah, but just speculating from the intel perspective
[02:33:29] <jbk> plus, segmenting was such a great idea in real mode! :
[02:33:29] <jbk> :)
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[02:35:29] <piwi> xrandr -q reports possible resolutions of 1600*1200, 1280*1024, 1152*864, 1024*768... on my system. is it possbile to set a resolution of 1280*960 without using a custom xorg.conf? gnome resolution chooser of course offers only the reported resolutions.
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[02:36:28] <ZOP> unless i'm missing something from this thread: http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=54566
[02:36:36] <ZOP> my results are totally wrong when i use the same dtrace
[02:36:53] <ZOP>  dtrace -n "e1000g_local_timer:entry{adapter=(struct e1000g *)arg0;printf(\"max_frame_size=%d\",adapter->shared.mac.max_frame_size)}"
[02:36:53] <ZOP> dtrace: description 'e1000g_local_timer:entry' matched 1 probe
[02:36:53] <ZOP> CPU     ID                    FUNCTION:NAME
[02:36:53] <ZOP>   6  62508         e1000g_local_timer:entry max_frame_size=234
[02:36:57] <Plazma> holy spam
[02:37:14] <ZOP> thing that might explain the reason my e1000's go away.
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[02:37:36] <jbk> what build are you using?
[02:37:42] <ZOP> 99
[02:37:52] <jbk> are you setting it via dladm?
[02:37:56] <nachox> it seems volo is comming? at least from osolo-arc
[02:37:57] <ZOP> nope
[02:38:03] <ZOP> dladm doesn't work on the e1000g's.
[02:38:05] <ZOP> atleast not on mine.
[02:38:31] <ZOP> i need to check the same output from a different driver version..i can definitely ping/receive/send packets up to 1500 bytes
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[02:38:47] <jbk> you are uing the built in e1000 driver right?
[02:38:50] <ZOP> just barely getting started with trying to figure out why the thing totally doesn't work.  xVM's don't work right either.
[02:39:22] <ZOP> i think this one is the 5.2.6 version from b87.  i have the same bugs with b99 though.
[02:39:35] <ZOP> actually b99 was a LOT worse
[02:39:49] <ZOP> but both b87 and b99 have MTU bugs
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[02:40:08] <ZOP> i can't change mtu via dladm, unless i turn on jumbo frames i can't even use 1500 byte frames.
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[02:40:49] <ZOP> and even when it is working it just stops working every so often (frames don't appear to go out or come in, I'm still diagnosing what the heck is going on when it gets into this state)
[02:41:04] <ZOP> i haven't been able to cause the lockup on demand at all though.
[02:41:14] <ZOP> yeah this is 5.2.6 from b87
[02:41:19] <jbk> if youre runnin b99, i'd work on the b99 version -- there are potential interface changes that might make using an earlier version unstable
[02:41:30] <ZOP> b99 is unusable
[02:41:40] <ZOP> or rather the drivers are.
[02:42:02] <ZOP> i couldnt' get them to stay up long enough to do anything.  i've got a new (Yukon based) card ordered in so hopefully i can do more work on that.
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[02:42:25] <ZOP> but for now the only access i have when using b99 is effectively my IPMI serial console which is slow heh.
[02:43:49] <jbk> hmm
[02:46:28] <jbk> well looking at the diffs, i see why dladm doesn't work with b87
[02:46:33] <jbk> the entry points aren't there
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[02:46:58] <jbk> the only thing i see between b99 & current is suspend support
[02:47:08] <jbk> well since last time i updated
[02:47:24] <jbk> which is post b100
[02:47:30] <DigitalSith> is there a way to boot opensolaris with lilo?
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[02:49:58] <e^ipi> why would there be?
[02:51:05] <jbk> ZOP: does it just stop working completely w/ the b99 driver?
[02:51:42] <jbk> you might also want to dump the whole struct e1000g to make sure it's sane
[02:51:50] <jbk> and that the ctf data is correct
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[02:52:17] <Plazma> lilo is still around (the boot loader) ?
[02:52:29] <jbk> if the ctf data is mismatched, the values from dtrace from that won't be right
[02:52:33] <e^ipi> i didn't think so
[02:52:38] <e^ipi> but there you have it
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[02:56:33] <nachox> Plazma, it is the default bootloader in slackware, and i think some version of ubuntu
[02:56:50] <Plazma> ahh right
[02:56:55] <Plazma> i forgot slackware existed for a while
[02:58:39] <evocallaghan> Anyone good with spec files ? :/ I got a problem with one of mine
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[02:59:25] <evocallaghan> I'm trying to inc. two things in one spec file as I would like just one big package
[03:00:41] <evocallaghan> Just need some help cleaning it up http://rafb.net/p/EVn4NE65.html
[03:00:55] <evocallaghan> Not sure where to ask :p
[03:02:10] * nachox was a slackware user till he started using solaris and never looked back
[03:05:01] <e^ipi> slackware was my first non-microsoft experience
[03:05:01] * maxote nachox, solaris can be one way with end
[03:05:07] <e^ipi> waaaaay back in the day
[03:05:10] <Plazma> yea i used slack back in the day.. it got bloated later on though
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[03:05:26] <nachox> bloated?
[03:05:40] <maxote> possibly
[03:06:01] <e^ipi> bloated, or just slow and crap because it's linux
[03:06:29] * maxote was planning to migrate from linux to xen/netbsd
[03:07:13] <e^ipi> and you tripped over solaris on your way?
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[03:07:34] <e^ipi> *shrug* that's cool
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[03:07:48] * maxote and accelerating the building of pkgsrc
[03:08:04] <Plazma> e^ipi,  well back in its prime it was 1 CD of linux bliss (back then).. then it became just really huge.. and bloated
[03:08:16] <Plazma> of course now i see that was more uneeded torture
[03:08:18] <Plazma> but meh
[03:08:21] <Plazma> it worked for me
[03:08:37] * maxote don't know the speed of new built pkgs on opensolaris
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[03:10:17] * maxote believes that opensolaris got stuck building the portfiles
[03:11:14] <nachox> e^ipi, the actual reason i left linux was lack of engineered and properly designed solutions and lack of interface stability, but i guess "slow and crap because it's linux" is good enough :)
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[03:12:46] <ZOP> jbk: yeah i was thinkign that as next steps.  like i said, have only just started on this....this thing is my personal machine so getting tome to screw with it is difficult.  it works very intermittently in b99.
[03:13:21] <ZOP> and lilo, there's a boot loader that needs to die.
[03:14:48] <maxote> it's better to use extended lilo or grub
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[03:59:23] <CIA-25> Michael Speer <Michael.Speer at Sun dot COM>: 6622219 nxge: software workaround for hardware receive channel reset bug, 6625546 nxge doesn't always unbind a dma_handle before freeing it, 6551068 nxge source files contain userland cruft, 6757434 hybrid niu race condition can panic service domain during reboot, 6758343 guest domain nxge driver does not handle attach failure properly
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[05:15:19] <sstallion> e^ipi: jbk: around ?
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[06:45:37] <asarch> How can check system's temperature?
[06:47:14] <e^ipi> http://tinyurl.com/3or793
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[06:57:52] <asarch> How can I install packages to OpenSolaris?
[06:58:01] <bda> pkg
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[06:58:11] <asarch> Thank you :-)
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[08:47:29] <edgy> Hi, solaris docs mentions: "A RAID-0 volume is a single-slice concatenation" I don't understand what's the meaning of single-slice here. I thought RAID-0 spans multi slices, any clarification?
[08:47:59] <e^ipi> as in it's not mirrored
[08:48:30] <e^ipi> it "spans multi slices" in so far as it is a concatenation of slices
[08:49:28] <e^ipi> were it mirrored with one other volume per side, it would read " A RAID-10 volume is an n>1 slice concatenation"
[08:54:52] <edgy> e^ipi: thanks for the clarification but how can I guess this? ;)
[08:55:08] <e^ipi> i dunno, seems a pretty clear statement to me
[08:55:13] <e^ipi> given the definition of 'concatenate'
[08:55:31] <e^ipi> which is pretty well defined in computing circles by this point
[08:57:12] <edgy> e^ipi: to concatenate multiple slices in one volume and calling it single-slice is not confusing? wouldn't it be more accurate to call it just a volume or component or metadevice?
[08:57:41] <e^ipi> i didn't find it the slightest bit unclear
[08:57:47] <e^ipi> it is a concatenation of single slices
[08:57:55] <e^ipi> it is therefore a single-slice concatenation
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[08:59:25] <edgy> e^ipi: ah! I think then its my poor english that I read single-slice as single slice and forgot what the compound means. I got it now
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[09:00:24] <edgy> e^ipi: so single-pen bag could mean a bag full of pens?
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[09:02:33] <edgy> e^ipi: is the pen example wrong?
[09:02:36] <e^ipi> no, but "single-pen collection of pens" would be a bit of an uncommon twist to mean a collection of pens doled out in singles, rather than perhaps an office supply stores' shipment of pens which is a pallet of  48-pack boxes
[09:02:48] <e^ipi> a contrived example
[09:02:57] <Plazma> heh, i steel al my pens at the office
[09:03:01] <Plazma> steal*
[09:03:16] <e^ipi> i work from home, stealing pens from the office is inefficient :(
[09:03:36] <e^ipi> i'm just going to have to put them back later anyways
[09:03:41] <jbk> pens are cheap enough it just seems silly when $2 will buy you enough to last for years
[09:03:50] <Plazma> heh
[09:04:00] <Plazma> well i do like fountain pens
[09:04:03] <e^ipi> i rarely use pens anyways
[09:04:09] <Plazma> but i don't like spending $100 for a good one
[09:04:11] <e^ipi> your office supplies you with fountain pens?
[09:04:14] <Plazma> na
[09:04:19] <Plazma> i wish
[09:04:23] <Plazma> i mostly steal the G2's
[09:04:28] <Plazma> and graphing notebooks
[09:04:38] <edgy> e^ipi: you are a great help. thanks
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[09:31:05] <edgy> Question 2 at http://mybraindumps.com/default.asp?show=displaydump&ExamID=310-016 mentions C as correct, how come a raid 1 stripes the data?!
[09:33:20] <edgy> is that answer really correct?
[09:36:25] <edgy> e^ipi: can you give any hint please?
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[09:43:04] <Plazma> edgy,  thats a test/brain dump site for a cert test
[09:43:26] <Plazma> and that violates any kind of agreement you have when taking the test, and degrades anyone who takes the certification
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[09:46:29] <e^ipi> also probably transcribed wrong, an old test ( S9 upgrade cert ), and contrived to begin with
[09:47:32] <e^ipi> regardless, A is slow because it's two disks in a mirror, B is slow because it's raid5, and D is slow because it's effectively one disk
[09:47:35] <e^ipi> which leaves C
[09:47:48] <e^ipi> an "why does raid1 stripe the data" ?
[09:47:53] <e^ipi> because that's what raid1 is
[09:48:06] <e^ipi> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID
[09:48:17] <e^ipi> sorry ,raid 0
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[09:48:55] <edgy_> Plazma: do you think kicking people instead of convincing them is a good behaviour?
[09:49:02] <Vagrant> is anyone from sun, i cant reset my password at sun download?
[09:49:14] <e^ipi> edgy: he doesn't even have ops
[09:49:43] <e^ipi> anyhow, you missed my rant.
[09:49:46] <e^ipi> read the question again
[09:49:54] <e^ipi> and forget about the mirroring altogether
[09:49:59] <e^ipi> that's a distraction
[09:50:29] <e^ipi> it's asking what the fastest performance is; single disk, raid5, stripe, concat
[09:50:54] <edgy_> e^ipi: definitely striping is faster
[09:51:08] <e^ipi> so what's the confusion ?
[09:52:03] <edgy_> e^ipi: the confusion the question said "You decide to mirror the data"
[09:52:08] <e^ipi> and?
[09:52:31] <e^ipi> you can mirror a raid1, then it's a raid10... you can mirror a raid5, then it's a raid50
[09:52:33] <edgy_> e^ipi: and in mirroring data means no striping would occur
[09:52:37] <e^ipi> no it doesn't
[09:52:43] <e^ipi> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID
[09:53:50] <edgy_> e^ipi: but in that case I need more than 2 disks, right? I understand he would buy only one more disk
[09:54:02] <e^ipi> that's not the question
[09:54:46] <e^ipi> "You can purchase the disk space to mirror the data. "
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[09:58:37] <edgy_> e^ipi: yes it doesn't say one disk but mentioning budget here let me think of saving. But definitely I was confused. But this again shows it's not enough just to know the info but also to try not be distracted. Do you think this is useful in real life?
[09:58:44] <sickness> morning all
[09:58:53] <e^ipi> of course it's useful in real life
[09:59:03] <edgy_> e^ipi: I mean my boss is not going to confuse me when asking to improve the write performance
[09:59:10] <e^ipi> you're bombarded with data constantly, you need to know how to filter out the unimportant bits
[09:59:48] <e^ipi> you don't think that half-clueless bosses aren't going to ask you to do confusing and probably impossible things?
[10:00:02] 
[10:01:59] <edgy_> e^ipi: ok I buy that and trust your experience. I would do my best to be more careful about details next time but I think its more of experience than a mindset
[10:02:16] <e^ipi> the two are nonexclusive
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[10:05:10] <edgy_> e^ipi: you are right but you know sometimes you cannot tune your caring to details to the right wave. e.g I can understand from "purchase the disk space to mirror the data" that this means I cannot purchase disk space to stripe the data and hence exclude striping altogether
[10:06:25] <e^ipi> given the constraints of that question you can't buy disk to stripe the data
[10:06:44] <e^ipi> but you don't have to: "data housed in a series of traditional disk slices"
[10:06:53] <e^ipi> note the use of the word "series"
[10:07:02] <e^ipi> as in, you already have enough disk space to stripe it
[10:07:53] <e^ipi> these arent' solaris specific questions, they're designed to test if you can reason about the problem
[10:08:48] <e^ipi> they're designed specifically /not/ to have a textbook lookup answer
[10:08:50] <edgy_> e^ipi: another nice tip and to the point. thanks
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[10:18:14] <the_unmaker1> can opensolaris be run in production?
[10:18:18] <the_unmaker1> fo my new startup?
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[10:26:43] <edgy_> the_unmaker: I believe so
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[10:30:27] <edgy_> the_unmaker: you can check others experiences like http://www.planetmysql.org/entry.php?id=15406
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[12:46:48] <guns> hi all
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[13:14:08] <codestr0m>  /opt/foo/usr/bin/exaile: -e: not found Segmentation fault (core dumped).. where is it dumping the core to?
[13:17:00] <_mary_kate_> /opt/foo/usr/bin?  curious path
[13:17:08] <_mary_kate_> usually core files are written in the current directory
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[13:20:12] <codestr0m> _mary_kate_: yeah I already looked in the cwd, but can't find it anywhere.
[13:20:47] <codestr0m> I found it with find, but in strange places
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[13:28:54] <CosmicDJ> codestr0m: where?
[13:29:18] <codestr0m>  /opt/foo/usr/share/exaile/core
[13:29:36] <codestr0m> must have just been where the script called it from
[13:30:08] <codestr0m> I've started a python session, but trying to get more familiar with dbx now.. dbx pid or dbx - pid doesn't seem to attach to the process
[13:30:11] <CosmicDJ> codestr0m: btw, you can specify a folder for all coredumps with coreadm
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[13:31:28] <codestr0m> CosmicDJ: thanks.. I'm going to need to get a lot more familiar with dbx.. I may take this as a chance for my crash course
[13:32:22] <CosmicDJ> well I hope your program was compiled with -g :)
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[13:32:37] <codestr0m> CosmicDJ: yeah I'll strip optimizations and add -g in a minute
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[13:33:57] <guns> can i add Media package to opensolaris ??
[13:34:36] <trygvis> "Media package"?
[13:35:57] <guns> trygvis: i mean Repository
[13:36:52] <guns> trygvis: i want install packga edirectly from net
[13:36:58] <guns> package
[13:37:17] <trygvis> are you using sxce or opensolaris 2008.05/11?
[13:38:35] <guns> trygvis: i'm using opensolaris 2008.05/11
[13:38:53] <trygvis> then I don't know
[13:39:13] <guns> trygvis: ok thank you
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[13:44:01] <twisti> guns, What package?
[13:45:40] <guns> twisti: is there solution for instalation packga Via Server directly cause i don't want download and install
[13:45:55] <guns> twisti: i wast time like that
[13:46:44] <twisti> I'm not sure I understand correctly, but you want to do something like:
[13:46:46] <guns> twisti: no problem , now i read newbie faq
[13:46:57] <twisti> # pkg install <package>
[13:47:02] <twisti> ?
[13:47:46] <guns> twisti: yes i know that but i want add packages list
[13:48:23] <twisti> Like Blastwave?
[13:48:46] <twisti> # pkg set-authority -O http://blastwave.network.com:10000/ blastwave.org
[13:49:01] <guns> twisti: yes like that
[13:49:07] <CosmicDJ> I think he want's smth like a "downloadable" repo for offline installation
[13:50:01] <guns> twisti: like in linux
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[13:50:40] <guns> twisti: slackpkg install package and it doawnload the package and install it
[13:50:51] <twisti> guns, The above command adds the Blastwave repository.
[13:51:04] <twisti> And a pkg install downloads the package and installs it.
[13:51:12] <twisti> That's it.
[13:51:24] <guns> twisti: ok thank you very much
[13:51:29] <twisti> No problem.
[13:54:09] <codestr0m> http://rafb.net/p/F6vGym90.html http://rafb.net/p/rmW1Is15.html
[13:54:53] <codestr0m> guns: to add to above.. to search for a package you can do pkg search -r (-r == remote) "*foo*" (accepts wildcards)
[13:55:53] <guns> codestr0m: thank you very much too
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[13:56:28] <guns> codestr0m: do you use opensolari like personel OS ??
[13:57:11] <codestr0m> guns: sorta, but some things are still a bit rough
[13:57:56] <guns> codestr0m: nd like server it's good
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[13:58:17] <codestr0m> guns: well. it's a learning experience..
[13:58:30] <codestr0m> so figure out what you need and then try to learn/focus in that area
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[13:59:49] <guns> guns: yes i want learn about all Network OS
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[14:06:07] <guns> twisti codestr0m thank you very much i win time now
[14:11:51] <twisti> codestr0m, Did you find anything out about this /etc/auto_master?
[14:12:31] <codestr0m> twisti: nope.. I looked, but didn't see any obvious way to fix..
[14:13:20] <twisti> Crap.
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[14:20:34] <CosmicDJ> whats wrong with auto_master?
[14:21:16] <twisti> I'm not sure.
[14:21:38] <twisti> I think something is broken with my network setup or the automounter thing.
[14:21:58] <twisti> The OpenJDK build system tries to access files under:
[14:22:08] <twisti>  /net/workstation/export/home/...
[14:22:17] <twisti> Where workstation is the name of the local machine.
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[14:22:37] <twisti> But this stat does not work and takes a long time to timeout.
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[14:23:05] <twisti> Someone mentioned yesterday it may be related to auto_master.
[14:23:15] <CosmicDJ> twisti: autofs running? /export/home nfs-exported?
[14:23:46] <CosmicDJ> twisti: can you ls /net/`hostname`/export/home ?
[14:24:12] <twisti> Yes that works.
[14:25:06] <twisti>  /usr/lib/autofs/automountd is running.
[14:25:24] <twisti> I seems that after the timeout the access works.
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[14:26:18] <CosmicDJ> twisti: anyway, OpenJDK shouldn't try to access /net IMHO
[14:26:37] <twisti> Yeah, I'm not sure yet what actually does it.
[14:26:42] <twisti> Maybe it's GNU make.
[14:26:48] <twisti> Don't know.
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[14:31:22] <codestr0m> twisti what happens if you try to ping your workstation name?
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[14:37:29] <CosmicDJ> twisti: hm can you show us the output from share?
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[14:42:11] <danfairs> Hi there -  svcprop svc:/virtualmin/mysite_com/Trac:default shows me a property start/exec, which appears to be the command to run the standalone trac server.
[14:42:22] <danfairs> I need to change the parameters of this command, but can't figure out where I do that.
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[14:42:56] <danfairs> Can someone point me in the right direction? I've read through Ch 15 of the system admin guide, but can't find any pointers.
[14:43:17] <boyd> danfairs: svccfg -s svc:/virtualmin/mysite_com/Trac:default setprop start/exec = foo
[14:43:21] <danfairs> I'm pretty new to Solaris
[14:43:52] <boyd> That should work for you... sorry, but I'm off to bed now :)
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[14:44:17] <boyd> Oh, you'll also need to svcadm refresh after the change to be able to see it in svcprop
[14:44:29] <boyd> HTH
[14:44:31] <danfairs> boyd: thanks - I'll give that a go.
[14:46:47] <danfairs> Hm - svccfg: No such property group "start".
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[14:48:13] <boyd> It's possible that it's set at the service, rather than the instance level. Try it without the ":default"
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[14:50:45] <twisti> codestr0m1, ping works.
[14:51:00] <twisti> CosmicDJ, "from share"?
[14:51:17] <twisti> Ohh, that's a command.
[14:53:22] <twisti> CosmicDJ, No output.
[14:53:56] <danfairs> boyd: Looks good :) Thanks!
[14:54:14] <houst0n-_> fluendo mp3 codec wants libdl.so.2 on opensolaris, however pkg search -r doesn't return any pkg which contains this file
[14:54:23] <houst0n-_> Any suggestions? Besides pulling it from a sxce install?
[14:54:38] <CosmicDJ> twisti: so you're not nfs sharing your /export/home dirs?
[14:54:45] <_mary_kate_> houst0n-_: are you sure you downloaded the solaris version, not linux (which has libdl.so.2)?
[14:54:50] <twisti> CosmicDJ, Does not seem so.
[14:54:55] <houst0n-_> Erm, /me checks again
[14:55:09] <twisti> codestr0m1, Should a simple "share" display that?
[14:56:13] <houst0n-_> Yep I'm a tard
[14:56:16] <houst0n-_> thanks ;)
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[14:57:45] <codestr0m1> twisti I got dc for a bit and I've not had to work with shares at all.
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[15:11:51] <digifor> I am trying to build wvstreams-4.4.1. I get the following error in gmake: ld: fatal: Symbol referencing errors. No output written to uuid/bin/tst_uuid
[15:12:46] <digifor> What am I missing? This is on OS2008.11 snv_96
[15:15:40] <codestr0m1> digifor: if you're building stuff on solaris 1) check the spec files for your package to steal patches 2) be ready to port stuff 3) make sure youre -I includes -L / -R are correct 4) try to find the package in other IPS repos before doing it yourself.
[15:16:26] <codestr0m1> 5) make sure your path/env is sane..  type ld type cc know which tools you're using
[15:16:50] <digifor> http://paste2.org/p/85698
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[15:18:36] <codestr0m1> digifor: my first guess is something with grep if failing and the whole build isn't being setup properly.. 1) change the build script to use ggrep instead of grep or 2) find a package... dev on opensolaris is still a bit kludge.. sorry I can't help more
[15:19:43] <digifor> As far as I can google there is no wvdial in opensolaris yet. So I thought I would try to roll my own. I have done some simple compiling in Linux before. Thanks codestr0m1for the pointers.
[15:21:09] <codestr0m1> digifor: well. those symbols will be either one something you need to link against -L / -R or it's in your package and maybe the cc -xM1 or grep isn't right.. like I said.. fix the grep/sed errors you find.. I'm working on a solution to help noobies like myself get started developing on opensolaris..
[15:21:31] <smtms> digifor, there is a PPP client in Solaris
[15:21:42] <digifor> pppd?
[15:22:25] <smtms> pppd
[15:22:58] <digifor> I have been trying to get this to work. http://opensolaris.org/os/project/wwan/
[15:23:39] <digifor> With wvdial under linux I can connect with my Nokia to my laptop.
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[15:26:05] <digifor> this is my wvdial:http://paste2.org/p/85701
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[15:27:20] <codestr0m1> digifor: if I was more familiar with what you're doing I'd help, but if nobody wants/can help you now maybe hang out and be patient and ask during a more busy time
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[15:35:02] <codestr0m1> ok. I just ported the dtrace patches to python25 + the lastest CVE stuff.. now I'll cross my fingers my segfault is magically fixed :P
[15:35:16] <codestr0m1> python--
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[15:56:32] <xtrondo> vais ao centro comercial hoje man?
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[16:05:32] <mbz> how do I install packages with their deps using pkgadmin?
[16:06:15] <codestr0m1> mbz: pkgadmin I'm not sure, but if you're on os2008* and using pkg then I can help
[16:06:28] <mbz> pkgadm
[16:06:42] <mbz> codestr0m1, pkg?
[16:06:43] <mbz> hm
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[16:07:13] <mbz> which package should I install to get pkg?
[16:07:23] <mbz> (I'm using SXCE b98)
[16:07:32] <mbz> (for sparc)
[16:07:46] <codestr0m> mbz: if you're on SXCE I'm unable and I'm pretty sure you don't want pkg aka IPS
[16:07:56] <codestr0m> s/unable/unable to help
[16:08:35] <mbz> :\
[16:11:01] <Stric> sxce and os2008* uses different packaging managers.. the sxce one is old solaris svr4 system with it's "nothing automatic" way, os2008* uses IPS which is new and more automatic, but less mature
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[16:49:58] <CosmicDJ> hm I just tried starting samba with aio enabled, I tried to dtrace various aio call's but nothing showed up
[16:50:28] <CosmicDJ> after that I wrote a small aio_read.c to test it and truss tells me: "/1:     kaio(11, 0xFFFFFFFF7FFFF590, 0x00000000, 0x00000002, 0x00000096, 0x00000003) Err#81 EBADFD"
[16:50:55] <CosmicDJ> the same program works fine with freebsd7...
[16:51:02] <CosmicDJ> so am I missing smth?
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[16:54:22] <tnelson> zfs is making me weep.
[16:54:47] <ZOP> tnelson: ?
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[16:55:10] <tnelson> Right, so, I've got a zpool called san/home, which I export via nfs to other clients as /home.
[16:55:35] <tnelson> Users' home dirs are created as zfs create san/home/trent.nelson, then chown -R'd as appropriate.
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[16:55:44] <_mary_kate_> you mean you have a pool called san, with a filesystem called san/home?
[16:55:58] <tnelson> Yeah.
[16:56:23] <tnelson> [root@carbon/ttypts/2(/san/home)#] ls -la | grep trent.nelson
[16:56:24] <tnelson> drwxr-xr-x  10 trent.nelson snakebite      34 Oct  8 20:33 trent.nelson
[16:56:29] <tnelson> (carbon is the solaris 10 box)
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[16:56:55] <tnelson> [root@helium/ttyp4(/home)#] ls -la | grep trent.nelson
[16:56:55] <tnelson> drwxr-xr-x    2 root     wheel           2 Oct  8 20:27 trent.nelson
[16:56:59] <ZOP> i can guess that your filesystems don't show up on say shutty linux boxen.
[16:57:02] <ZOP> yeah
[16:57:05] <ZOP> thats a linux NFS issue
[16:57:06] <ZOP> not ZFS
[16:57:09] * tnelson points to root:wheel
[16:57:17] <ZOP> Linux barely implements NFS v2/v3
[16:57:28] <tnelson> if I mount carbon:/san/home/trent.nelson as /home/trent.nelson, it works.
[16:57:32] <ZOP> you have to mount each filesystem in NFSv2/v3.
[16:57:35] <tnelson> (i.e. it picks up the right permissions)
[16:58:07] <ZOP> NFSv4 has a mechanism (redirects i think its called?) that lets it propogate submounts.
[16:58:20] <tnelson> This is FreeBSD FWIW, NFSv3.  NFSv4 spews random IDs, but I suspect that's due to me not setting up idmaps.
[16:58:29] <CosmicDJ> tnelson: "getent passwd trent.nelson" on helium says?
[16:58:44] <tnelson> [root@helium/ttyp4(/home)#] getent passwd trent.nelson
[16:58:46] <tnelson> trent.nelson:ABCD!efgh12345$67890:10001:10000:
[16:58:59] <CosmicDJ> hm ok
[16:59:18] <tnelson> [root@helium/ttyp4(/home)#] mount carbon:/san/home/trent.nelson /mnt/tt
[16:59:18] <tnelson> [root@helium/ttyp4(/home)#] ls -la /mnt | grep tt
[16:59:18] <tnelson> drwxr-xr-x   10 trent.ne snakebit       34 Oct  8 20:33 tt
[16:59:24] <tnelson> see!
[16:59:30] <tnelson> So annoying!
[16:59:32] <CosmicDJ> net time don't paste your (encrypted) passwd ;)
[16:59:36] <ZOP> well due to the wildly different dates it's the nfs submount bug
[16:59:37] <tnelson> It's not :)
[16:59:48] <ZOP> CosmicDJ: if you look thats not a valid crypted password.
[16:59:54] <Stric> tnelson: and how is /home mounted when it doesn't work?
[16:59:55] <_mary_kate_> hmm, i'm not sure it's a bug, most likely just not mounting the child filesystem
[16:59:56] <tnelson> It's a placeholder from Active Directory.
[16:59:57] <ZOP> tnelson: submounts don't propogate in nfsv3
[17:00:03] <_mary_kate_> so it shows the modes from the mountpoint directory
[17:00:10] <tnelson> They're propagating, the permissions jsut aren't correct.
[17:00:15] <tnelson> _mary_kate_: bingo.
[17:00:15] <CosmicDJ> ZOP: ah ok, I thought that's just another flavour after des, md5, blowfish etc.
[17:00:31] <ZOP> tnelson: they don't look like they are because the homedir was a completely different date.
[17:00:32] <tnelson> Stric: just as carbon:/san/home /home?
[17:00:38] <ZOP> tnelson: i bet if oyu touch a file in one it doesn't show in the other.
[17:01:09] <Stric> tnelson: you say it works when you run 'mount blah', but what are you doing to get it mounted in a non-working mode? automounter? magic? foo?
[17:01:26] <tnelson> Yaeh, you're right, I can't see anything in /home/trent.nelson from helium, even as root.
[17:01:32] <ZOP> exactly
[17:01:37] <ZOP> because i'ts not mounted on the cleint.
[17:01:41] <ZOP> you have to mount it.
[17:01:50] <tnelson> sigh, really?
[17:01:50] <ZOP> see automountd.
[17:01:53] <ZOP> yes really
[17:01:57] <ZOP> and not a ZFS problem
[17:02:01] <ZOP> NFS protocol limitation.
[17:02:22] <tnelson> Yeah amd works, i.e I can ls /net/carbon/san/home/trent.nelson.
[17:02:32] <_mary_kate_> it would be more helpful if ZFS didn't work that way, given the way people create many filesystems with it
[17:02:37] <tnelson> (It automatically creates a enw mount for trent.nelson.)
[17:02:54] <tnelson> Yeah I've got to link up about 40 boxes of various different OSes to this one SAN.
[17:03:05] <tnelson> All of which have different amd/autofs configurations.
[17:03:11] <tnelson> (If they even have it at all.)
[17:03:25] <tnelson> Would be nice to be able to just mount carbon:/san/home as /home.
[17:03:30] <Stric> with nfsv4 you can
[17:03:41] <tnelson> yah.
[17:03:50] <tnelson> pity support for it is not widespread yet ;-)
[17:04:05] <tnelson> also, check this out...
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[17:05:38] <ZOP> though i do tend to agree with _mary_kate_ that it would be nice if ZFS behaved more like AFS or had NFSv4 semantics even in NFSv3.
[17:06:09] <tnelson> lithium# mount_nfs4 carbon:/san/home /mnt
[17:06:13] <tnelson> lithium# ls -l /mnt | grep trent.nelson
[17:06:13] <tnelson> drwxr-xr-x  10 4294967294  4294967294  34 Oct  9 00:33 trent.nelson
[17:06:28] <tnelson> what's that about? :)
[17:06:32] <Stric> tnelson: setup nfs4 properly.. (same nfs4 domain and start idmapd)
[17:06:42] <Stric> /etc/default/nfs  on the solaris box
[17:06:48] <tnelson> yeah, guess that involves getting some nfsv4 clue.
[17:06:52] <tnelson> which is clearly absent.
[17:06:59] <ZOP> yeah it's giving back the 'anonymous' UID/GIDs since it can't map them
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[17:07:44] <tnelson> so my options are either autofs/amd or nfsv4?
[17:07:45] <Stric> NFSMAPID_DOMAIN=blah   on the solaris box in /etc/default/nfs
[17:07:54] <Stric> tnelson: or lots of manual mounts
[17:07:56] <tnelson> Or don't create home/<foo> as separate zfs things.
[17:08:20] <tnelson> Or...
[17:08:33] <tnelson> I could just ln -sf /net/carbon/san/home /home
[17:08:42] <tnelson> and not mess with automounts.
[17:08:55] <tnelson> Gives you an ugly homedir though.
[17:09:26] <Stric> and you're still doing automounts, but not "predefined" ones..
[17:09:45] <tnelson> Stric: actually, I think I took care of that via a TXT record for _nfsv4idmapdomain.snakebite.org.
[17:10:33] <tnelson> Stric: yeah, I know, but /net/<foo> works quite nicely out of the box for just abotu everything I've come across.
[17:10:57] <tnelson> Can't really be bothered fiddling with AIX/Linux/HP-UX/*BSD to get teh same behaviour for /home/<foo>.
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[17:12:09] <ZOP> i hate working in envs with such a mongrel mix of stuff
[17:12:13] <ZOP> makes life very difficult heh
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[17:15:41] <ruse39> ruse39@bmw:~# pkill -9 1407 <CR> ruse39@bmw:~# ps -a | grep mc <CR> 1407 pts/8       0:00 mc
[17:15:48] <ruse39> why it is so ?
[17:16:08] <tnelson> ZOP: tell me about it.
[17:16:21] <tnelson> Solaris 10u5 has caused me a lot of pain :/
[17:17:10] <ruse39> I can't kill mc with pkill, kill. HOW can I kill it finally ?
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[17:17:50] <codestr0m> ruse39 is it using resources.. and maybe you can preap it? :)
[17:18:04] <codestr0m> I have no idea what that'll do though
[17:18:08] <ZOP> didja try sig9?
[17:18:25] <ZOP> mc had a bad habit of setting up ignores on all signal handlers in the past.
[17:18:25] <codestr0m> ZOP: -9 is -KILL is -sig9
[17:18:35] <Stric> preap is for zombies, not alive processes
[17:18:45] <ZOP> oh sorry missed that first bit heh.
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[17:19:09] <codestr0m> Stric: yeah, but how can he terminate the process if pkill -9 doesn't do it?
[17:19:17] <Stric> ruse39: but use the right tool.. what you did was to send the signal 9 to all processes _named_ 1407
[17:19:36] <Stric> ruse39: use kill -9 1407   or pkill -9 mc
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[17:19:44] <ruse39> Stric, I've tried kill too
[17:19:56] <ruse39> even preap can't kill it
[17:20:05] <Stric> preap doesn't kill anything
[17:20:08] <Stric> so that's expected
[17:20:21] <Stric> it just takes care of the corpse of already dead processes
[17:20:36] <Stric> which the man page would have told you
[17:20:52] <ruse39> ye, I've read it
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[17:21:01] <Stric> but if kill -9 1407   doesn't kill it, then it's stuck in IO wait or similar.. the kernel doesn't want to let go. tough.
[17:21:18] <ruse39> looks like someone done IDDQD to all my mc's
[17:21:29] <Stric> fix the disk and/or reboot
[17:21:37] <Stric> (where disk can be nfs etc too)
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[17:22:23] <ruse39> I think mc started to behave such after set rlim_fd_cur=256000 , set rlim_fd_max=256000 >> /etc/system ; init 6
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[18:49:40] <sailorvrz> is root login through ssh denied in standard 10 installation?
[18:50:30] <seanmcg> yes
[18:51:21] <sailorvrz> ok thanks... how do I add users the proper way? With useradd?
[18:52:02] <seanmcg> you can enable it (not recomended though) by editing the /etc/ssh/sshd_config, look for the PermitRootLogin flag and restart ssh service
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[18:52:21] <seanmcg> useradd works for adding local users.
[18:53:38] <sailorvrz> ic, thank you very much
[18:54:24] <codestr0m> anyone familiar with the drm bits around here.. http://src.opensolaris.org/source/xref/onnv/onnv-gate/usr/src/uts/intel/io/drm/  ? not sure if any thought to porting the nouveau has come up before?
[18:54:38] <codestr0m> nouveau nvidia driver
[18:57:39] <oxygene> unfortunately the drm/dri devs are too stupid for OS abstractions
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[18:58:01] <gnusosa> Hi, anybody here had any luck compiling the conky port?
[18:58:27] <oxygene> what's conky?
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[18:59:08] <dystopia> highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo Conky is a system monitor for X originally based on the torsmo code. Since its original conception, Conky has changed a fair bit from its predecessor. Conky can display just about anything, either on your root desktop or in its own window. Conky has many built-in objects, as well as the ability to execute programs and scripts, then display
[18:59:14] <dystopia>  te outtput from stdout.
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[19:03:47] <gnusosa> dystopia, any luck?
[19:04:01] <guns> hi again
[19:05:10] <guns> is it possible to mount ext3 and xfs partition in opensolaris RW
[19:06:14] * dystopia was merely answering to oxygene; unfortunately i don't run opensolaris right now
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[19:18:08] <CosmicDJ> guns: no
[19:18:37] <guns> CosmicDJ: ok thank you
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[19:42:01] <codestr0m> anyone around to help me try to debug this http://rafb.net/p/Ll9iSQ88.html
[19:48:42] <CosmicDJ> codestr0m: didn't you say you want to use dbx for debugging? ;)
[19:49:41] <codestr0m> CosmicDJ: dbx or mdb.. whichever will do the job.. the man pages are rather dry and I'm not getting how to debug an interactive process..
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[19:54:16] <CosmicDJ> codestr0m: so no core yet?
[19:54:39] <codestr0m> CosmicDJ: I got a core. and did $c from inside mdb.. that's what my pastie was above
[19:55:49] <codestr0m> depending on how I make it crash I can also get this core bt
[19:55:50] <codestr0m> http://rafb.net/p/3SnLB191.html
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[19:59:28] <CosmicDJ> codestr0m: doesn't look helpful...
[19:59:42] <CosmicDJ> codestr0m: what does dbx show?
[20:00:12] <codestr0m> CosmicDJ: I've not tried in dbx (I need to go read the differences from gdb again)
[20:00:27] <CosmicDJ> codestr0m: dbx - core
[20:01:27] <codestr0m> CosmicDJ: http://rafb.net/p/kUdmOA33.html
[20:01:53] <codestr0m> I'll unpack the source again
[20:02:24] <CosmicDJ> good idea ;)
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[20:23:22] <codestr0m> CosmicDJ: http://rafb.net/p/tYDz0k89.html
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[20:43:21] <CosmicDJ> codestr0m: "data = (nil)" looks good :)
[20:44:26] <CosmicDJ> codestr0m: you can go _up_ and _down_ through the stacktrace
[20:44:38] <CosmicDJ> codestr0m: and you can _list_ the sourcecode
[20:45:38] <codestr0m> CosmicDJ: gotcha.. I need to read this code though
[20:49:34] <codestr0m> CosmicDJ: still seems like part of the stack is missing.. if part of the stack wasn't compile with -g it's just ignored? I'm used to getting missing symbols instead
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[20:52:36] <edgy_> Hi, I am practicing a bit with raid and metadb. I had my /export/home mounted and want to concatenate it to another slice, can I do this without umounting it first?
[20:56:40] <CosmicDJ> codestr0m: "current thread: t@1
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[20:56:48] <CosmicDJ> " looks like your program is threaded
[20:56:59] <CosmicDJ> codestr0m: maybe that's where the rest is?
[20:57:25] <CosmicDJ> codestr0m: http://docs.sun.com/source/817-6692/starting.html
[20:57:47] <codestr0m> thanks. it just seems like a shallow stack
[21:00:19] <CosmicDJ> edgy_: most of the folks here would recommend using zfs instead of svm...
[21:01:02] <edgy_> CosmicDJ: yes but this is just in case i need to administer old systems
[21:03:13] <CosmicDJ> edgy_: you might find the manpage from growfs(1M) interesting...
[21:03:38] <e^ipi> or just the entirety of docs.sun.com
[21:03:46] <e^ipi> there's SVM books there
[21:06:12] <edgy_> CosmicDJ: in the growfs man page I see he umounted the /export first to create the metadevice, my question is there any way to do it without umounting first
[21:06:30] <edgy_> e^ipi: yes I read many pages in the docs today but still can't find a way
[21:06:38] <e^ipi> read them harder.
[21:06:53] <edgy_> e^ipi: ;)
[21:06:57] <e^ipi> or call your Sun rep.
[21:07:02] <e^ipi> this isn't free tech support
[21:07:50] <edgy_> e^ipi: yes I know sir but if some one would tell me there is a way I can look harder but may be there isn't a way at all so I may reach the wrong conclusion
[21:07:52] <e^ipi> nor is it the SCSA course
[21:07:52] <CosmicDJ> it's not? when do I get my cheque? ;)
[21:08:16] <e^ipi> if you can't handle self-directed learning, pony up the cash and take the courses
[21:08:48] <e^ipi> they're not that expensive, long-term thinking wise
[21:08:53] <edgy_> e^ipi: no no I can handle it but don't mention cash please ;)
[21:09:15] <e^ipi> obviously you can't handle it or else you wouldn't be asking simple questions here every couple hours
[21:09:40] <e^ipi> there are loans one can take specifically for education and they tend to have a ridiculously low interest rate
[21:10:06] * Kimloc ist still annoyed by the change from the previous courses (text based)
[21:10:33] <Kimloc> s/ist/is
[21:11:08] <e^ipi> what are they now, video & such?
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[21:11:42] <Kimloc> java based presentation with sound, at least those I've seen/heard
[21:12:02] <e^ipi> yech
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[21:13:00] <edgy_> e^ipi: though I know you can prove otherwise but the way I thought is correct for searching is to grep the metadb for the word mount and it's not there. I read all of the options to force the adding but nothing. I read some docs and searched google but I found a suggestion to umount it first so please don't disappoint me by saying its easy question :(
[21:13:27] <CosmicDJ> Kimloc: they are flash based :)
[21:13:39] <e^ipi> http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/816-4520
[21:13:46] <e^ipi> there, edgy_  . read that.
[21:13:58] <e^ipi> and actually read it such that you understand it
[21:14:05] <e^ipi> skimming it isn't enough
[21:14:08] <Kimloc> cosmicdj: really? maybe the presentation itself, but I'm not so sure about the loading screen
[21:14:33] <Kimloc> flash works fine here, java doesn't which includes SAI stuff
[21:15:43] <CosmicDJ> Kimloc: hm I just tried to load one with java disabled, still works
[21:15:55] <edgy_> e^ipi: ok I will do
[21:16:13] <edgy_> e^ipi: what are those flash presentations you are speaking about? may be I can afford it
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[21:16:52] <Kimloc> cosmicdj: maybe it depends on the course?
[21:16:55] <e^ipi> i assume they're talking about the courses
[21:17:02] <CosmicDJ> Kimloc: could be...
[21:17:11] <e^ipi> edgy_: http://www.ib-groep.nl/InternationalVisitirs/Study_in_the_Netherlands/s40_study_grants.asp
[21:17:15] <e^ipi> look in to that.
[21:18:40] <jbk> afternoon
[21:18:46] <e^ipi> heya jbk
[21:18:48] <e^ipi> what's up?
[21:18:55] <jbk> at the airport
[21:19:09] <jbk> going to LA for netapp training
[21:19:09] <e^ipi> going to?
[21:19:17] <e^ipi> ah
[21:19:20] <e^ipi> that's kinna cool i guess
[21:19:31] <jbk> was supposed to go to austin
[21:19:40] <edgy_> e^ipi: I am not from dutch to take grants and here I cannot take any loan whatsoever
[21:19:54] <jbk> but that class was the week after ike, and it would have been quite unlikely i would have gotten a hotel room, even with a reservation
[21:19:57] <edgy_> e^ipi: but if I decided to pay for help here how much should I expect
[21:20:37] <jbk> and they couldn't get all the approvals & POs cut in time, so this was the next available slot
[21:20:40] <e^ipi> jbk: *nod*
[21:21:05] <e^ipi> LA doesn't really attract me at all
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[21:21:44] <jbk> i know a few people out there, it can be fun
[21:21:47] <jbk> nice weather generally
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[21:22:17] <jbk> and the typical attitude out there is very much like where I grew up (just on a much, much larger scale)
[21:24:16] <e^ipi> how do you mean?
[21:25:42] <jbk> superficiality - 'me first, screw you' 'the first thing i need to know about you is how much money you make' etc.
[21:28:40] <guns> hi i install opensolaris in virtualbox and i want up the network
[21:29:30] <guns> the devices network use pcn driver
[21:30:01] <jbk> use e1000
[21:30:18] <jbk> opensolaris i don't think contains the pcn driver (yet), just sxce
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[21:35:38] <e^ipi> pfft. hows this for electioneering... if you google for "NDP" ( canada's leftist party ) ads show up for both the NDP and the Liberal party ( canada's centrist party )  ( those two as well as the green party and bloc quebecois are trying to defeat the incumbent Conservatives )
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[21:59:03] <guns> i'm using Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller i want know the good driver
[21:59:12] <guns> for having my sound work
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[22:01:25] <CosmicDJ> guns: IIRC sound inside VBox is still a hairy thing...
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[22:01:46] <Vagrant> http://gdamore.blogspot.com/2008/07/new-experimental-audiohd-driver.html
[22:01:52] <Vagrant> maybe this will be good
[22:02:02] <Vagrant> it works with my ich(8)
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[22:03:23] <guns> Vagrant: thank you
[22:05:14] <Vagrant> np :)
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[22:09:11] <TT6> How long supports sun opensolaris 2008.5 with security updates and so?
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[22:26:33] <CosmicDJ> TT6: there's only limited support for opensolaris and IIRC there are no security fixes at all
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[22:30:44] <Gman> TT6: officially 18 months support plan if you pay
[22:30:58] <Gman> but tbh, things are still getting refined
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[22:33:21] <TT6> hmhm
[22:33:27] <TT6> oki thx
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[22:55:28] <e^ipi> electricity geeks: a UPS with a bad battery, 12V . how stupid of me would it be to hook it up to an old car battery ?
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[22:59:22] <CIA-25> Mike Christensen <Michael.Christensen at Sun dot COM>: 6753387 No ereports sent to root domains after rebooting control and panicking both root domains, 6753970 libds corrupts memory in fmd etm module, 6756916 vlds driver doesn't throttle misbehaving clients, 6756919 libds entry missing from usr/src/Makefile.lint
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[23:00:15] <fraggeln> e^ipi: first thought, bad idea, since a car uses alot more amp then your avarege ups :)
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[23:03:04] <ruse39[home]> anyone can recommend me any simple identd for OpenSolaris ?
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[23:03:56] <fraggeln> ruse39[home]: oident?
[23:04:04] <fraggeln> oidentd even.
[23:04:18] <ruse39[home]> thx, let me try
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[23:40:05] <guns> audiohd doen't work anywya
[23:40:08] <guns> anyway
[23:40:24] <guns> and dmesg | grep hd doesnt give me anything
[23:41:17] <guns> must i copy audiohd and audiohh.o or the folder
[23:42:21] <ruse39[home]> remdrv it and install OSS
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[23:43:24] <guns> ruse39[home]: but in forum they said remove oss and install audiohd
[23:43:36] <guns> i don't know what's the people that i must follow
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[23:44:13] <ruse39[home]> funny, I heard that Sun deceased audiohd development
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[23:45:26] <guns> ruse39[home]: i'll fllow you now
[23:45:35] <guns> ruse39[home]: http://www.codestrom.com/wandering/2008/08/opensolaris-how.html
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[23:46:18] <ruse39[home]> yes, but before you should remdrv audiohd
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[23:49:02] <guns> ruse39[home]: thank you
[23:49:15] <ruse39[home]> np
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