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[00:05:06] <zubwolf> i'd like to install os200805 on a hdd which is connected to an IDE Ultra133 TX2 pci-controller, opensolaris does not know this device, but there is a workaround existing ( http://wiki.complexfission.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/OpenSolarisOS ->  "Adding a Promise IDE Controller" ), the problem is just that this solution needs a reboot to work, but since i boot with an live-cd of solaris, the changes are gone after the reboot
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[00:05:35] <zubwolf> any suggestions on how to solve this problem would be very welcome:-)
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[00:24:07] <anthrax> hi guys, have a little question for you. In my solaris 10, somehow the default router configured to be 192.168.100.200. with that i could connect to internet from my office. But my home router is 192.168.1.1. I tried by deleting the default router and add 192.168.1.1 as the default router. it didnt work. finally, i change my router ip to be 192.168.100.200. and now it works. any idea about...
[00:24:08] <anthrax> ...how to configure it "as i want?"
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[00:26:26] <seanmcg> defaultrouter is in /etc/defaultrouter
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[00:26:56] <sickness> yeah, I always use /etc/defaultrouter, do you have something like nwam enabled?
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[00:27:11] <sickness> or dhcp? or other strange automated things? :)
[00:27:50] <anthrax> I have DHCP enable on my router
[00:27:57] <anthrax> enabled
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[00:28:14] <e^ipi> so then enable DHCP on the client
[00:28:18] <e^ipi> see /topic
[00:28:42] <sickness> anthrax: not the dhcp server on the router, the potential dhcp client on the solaris client
[00:29:31] <anthrax> at the installation i choose to use DHCP
[00:30:22] <anthrax> sickness: you lost me, could you explain a little pleas?
[00:31:06] <anthrax> just say U know i'm new as a week to solaris
[00:31:28] <sickness> anthrax: if you have dhcp enabled on the client, it automatically configures the gateway and dns each time you boot, you should try to disable dhcp and configure the network by hand
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[00:32:16] <sickness> well, you should have to learn how to statically configure an ip address and the gateway and the dns, but the concept to disable dhcp on the client would be the same on any other os ;)
[00:32:17] <anthrax> understand, where should i look for the dhcp setting?
[00:34:07] <sickness> text files in /etc
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[00:34:26] <_mary_kate_> if i put a PCI-X card into a 64-bit, 66MHz PCI slot, will it work at the full speed the slot is capable of, or will it fall back to 32-bit, 33MHz?
[00:35:15] <sickness> anthrax: ggrep -ir dhcp /etc/*
[00:35:30] <sickness> anthrax: find /etc |ggrep -i dhcp
[00:36:26] <sickness> _mary_kate_: last I known it would fall back only if you put it into a "short" 32bit slot, the long pci-x ones should always go at full speed in hardware, should not be a software setting...
[00:37:22] <anthrax> dhcp.pcn0 is empty
[00:37:35] <sickness> (I actually use a pci-x controller on an old p2 with just pci 33mhz to attach an LTO1 and works OK, but at reduced speed)
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[00:38:19] <sickness> anthrax: yeah, rename that file to hostname.pcn0 and put inside the hostname you want for your system, than modify /etc/hosts and put ip and name
[00:38:22] <_mary_kate_> right, i know it works in a standard PCI slot - i'm just wondering if it will work at 66MHz / 64-bit, or if it only supports either PCI-X, or standard PCI
[00:38:35] <_mary_kate_> (by 'standard PCI', i mean 33MHz / 32-bit)
[00:38:46] <sickness> anthrax: on 2 likes like:
[00:38:46] <sickness> 127.0.0.1       localhost
[00:38:47] <sickness> 192.168.0.7     vintage loghost
[00:39:02] <sickness> (that's how it is on a host that I named vintage with ip 192.168.0.7)
[00:39:26] <sickness> anthrax: inside hostname.pcn0 put just the hostname vintage
[00:40:26] <sickness> _mary_kate_: I think it's only full 66mhz/64bit, or 33mhz/32bit, but I can't be 100% sure, YMMV ;)
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[00:40:48] <_mary_kate_> sickness: PCI-X isn't 66MHz, it's like 266MHz ;) (or even faster)
[00:41:10] <sickness> _mary_kate_: pci-x or pci-e? are you sure that pci-x is 266Mhz? =)
[00:41:20] <_mary_kate_> PCI-X - PCIe of course is totally incompatible
[00:41:28] <sickness> mmm
[00:41:36] <Auralis> pci-x is 133mhz
[00:41:40] <_mary_kate_> sickness: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI-X#Versions
[00:41:48] <_mary_kate_> 66 - 533
[00:42:47] <sickness> well I see, but this 533Mhz variant sounds a lot like the 2.88Mb floppy to me, never actually seen one :P
[00:42:58] <_mary_kate_> still, 133MHz is common
[00:43:10] <_mary_kate_> but i only have a 66MHz non-PCI-X slot - so will my 133MHz card run at 66MHz or 33MHz?
[00:43:19] <Auralis> well, yeah, but basicaly noone ever build any pci-x over 133
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[00:44:16] <anthrax> ook, in /etc/hosts i got 3 entries. shold i delete them or leave them as they are?
[00:44:24] <anthrax> #
[00:44:33] <anthrax> #internet host table
[00:44:43] <anthrax> ::1 localhost
[00:44:45] <sickness> _mary_kate_: I think it should just work, the standard says so, but to be sure you'll have to try or to ask the vendor =)
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[00:44:56] <_mary_kate_> i know it'll work, i want to know how fast it'll work :)
[00:45:00] <anthrax> 127.0.01 localhost
[00:45:20] <sickness> anthrax: you can ignore ::1, modify as I exampled the localhost and hosname
[00:45:21] <anthrax> 192.168.100.115 unknown #added by dhcp
[00:45:33] <sickness> _mary_kate_: ...how slow ;)
[00:46:03] <sickness> I'm using that setup and I can say that's slow, but it really depends on your requirements :)
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[00:46:35] <sickness> I have to write an LTO1 tape that takes like 3hours instead of 1hour (for example), but it's not a problem to me since I schedule that at night :)
[00:46:44] <_mary_kate_> sickness: but you said you used a 33MHz PCI slot
[00:46:50] <_mary_kate_> sickness: i have 66MHz, 64-bit slots
[00:46:55] <_mary_kate_> that is 4 times as fast :)
[00:47:03] <sickness> yeah old "legacy" 33Mhz one
[00:47:05] <sickness> mmm
[00:47:15] <sickness> 66mhz 64bit?
[00:47:22] <sickness> are them "long"?
[00:47:44] <_mary_kate_> let me see if i can find a diagram
[00:48:43] <sickness> if they are the "long" ones, they'll work at 64bit 66mhz, if they are the "short" ones I think they'll work at 33Mhz/32bit... just my 2c :)
[00:49:33] <sickness> (shower time)
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[00:55:37] <anthrax> is # means comment on these configuration files?
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[00:57:56] <Auralis> yes
[01:01:31] <sickness> re
[01:01:38] <sickness> yes
[01:02:36] <sickness> I go to bed, 'nite all :)
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[01:09:00] <sstallion> evening all
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[01:17:58] <HeCSa> Hello, everybody!
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[01:21:20] <HeCSa> Hi, I'm HeCSa, from Argentina...anybody awake?
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[01:26:43] <e^ipi> no
[01:27:12] <HeCSa> yeap...everybody is sleeping...
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[01:28:11] <HeCSa> me too...
[01:28:20] <HeCSa> ;-)
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[01:39:21] <HeCSa> Hi
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[05:38:17] <sstallion> evening all
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[06:15:19] <vignesh> How do I boot into a console only mode
[06:15:22] <vignesh> don`t start GDM
[06:16:36] <hecsa> svcadm disable gdm
[06:17:28] <hecsa> and then reboot
[06:17:39] <hecsa> do you copy me?
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[06:57:25] <e^ipi> FLAVOR FLAAAAV!
[07:00:25] <knix> AIN'T NOBODY MESS WIT FLAVA FLAVVVVVV
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[07:01:33] <e^ipi> just looking at that guy cracks me up, every time
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[07:01:56] <hecsa> ???????
[07:03:56] <e^ipi> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flavor_Flav
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[07:18:42] <Furious_joe> Is there any open solaris installer that will let me install on extended partitions?
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[07:22:26] <JWheeler> I'm not sure what the status is on that. I haven't ready anything about that being fixed
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[08:27:20] <dwc-> any sun employee or someone with a service contract that can tell me if assetid 1-9-85181-1 is still around (and thus, I need a service contract to read it) or if it doesn't exist?
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[09:02:23] <Cy> can anyone help me install this os onto a machine that currently has windows on it
[09:03:28] <e^ipi> pop in the CD
[09:03:30] <e^ipi> boot
[09:03:37] <e^ipi> click next half a dozen times
[09:03:39] <e^ipi> you are done
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[09:09:06] <Cy> have no cd
[09:09:11] <Cy> downlaoded it
[09:09:16] <Cy> and trying to run from iso
[09:09:53] <e^ipi> you can't run it from the ISO
[09:09:58] <e^ipi> burn it to CD, and then reboot
[09:10:07] <Cy> burn the iso
[09:10:13] <Cy> or is there something else i have to do
[09:10:23] <Cy> b/c it wasn't reconized by doing that
[09:11:51] <dwc-> did you burn the .iso file onto a data cd on accident?
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[09:12:31] <Cy> yea how should i be doing it
[09:14:43] <dwc-> what program are you using to burn the cd
[09:15:01] <Cy> no program just off the os
[09:15:16] <dwc-> what os
[09:16:17] <Cy> Mac OS 10.5
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[09:18:13] <dwc-> uh... let's see...
[09:18:37] <dwc-> disk utility
[09:19:29] <dwc-> images/burn
[09:19:49] <Cy> thanks i'll try that
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[11:06:00] <dom> is default root fs in opensolaris zfs?
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[11:06:41] <trygvis> dom: that is up to you when you install it
[11:07:13] <dom> i just did a default install
[11:08:52] <e^ipi> did you use 2008.05, or SXCE ?
[11:08:52] <trygvis> opensolaris 2008.05?
[11:09:05] <e^ipi> 2008.05 ( the livecd one ) uses ZFS
[11:09:16] <e^ipi> not by default, as that would imply there is another option.
[11:09:21] <e^ipi> only ZFS.
[11:11:17] <dom> cool
[11:11:19] <dom> rip ufs
[11:11:57] <e^ipi> yeah, well... 30 year old FS, about time it gets replaced
[11:12:18] <e^ipi> ( and i roll ext2/3 in to that category as well. old FS paradigms. )
[11:13:03] <e^ipi> neat fun fact: zfs crypto goes to code review
[11:13:37] <JWheeler> as in, it's feature complete now?
[11:13:53] <e^ipi> so it would appear, i haven't been following it
[11:14:09] <e^ipi> phase 1 is anyways, whatever that means
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[11:14:27] <e^ipi> integration target is 105
[11:14:31] <e^ipi> so it's going to miss 2008.11
[11:14:57] <e^ipi> ( because of time-based rather than feature-based releasing, which i still disagree with )
[11:15:44] <e^ipi> http://opensolaris.org/os/project/zfs-crypto/
[11:16:18] <e^ipi> encrypted swap too, huh that's cool
[11:16:27] <dom> sorry for stupid newbie questions but is there currently an alternative to smpatch?
[11:16:28] <e^ipi> no encrypted dump though
[11:16:59] <e^ipi> dom: liveupgrade
[11:17:12] <e^ipi> SXCE has no patches
[11:17:21] <e^ipi> on indiana, pkg image-upgrade
[11:17:59] <dom> image-update?
[11:18:19] <e^ipi> yeah, one of them
[11:18:27] <e^ipi> i dunno, i stubbornly use SXCE
[11:18:38] <dom> has sxce been dumped in favour of opensolaris?
[11:18:44] <e^ipi> not yet
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[11:18:50] <e^ipi> which is i mean... yay for me
[11:19:00] <dom> last time i tried to download it on sun.com i couldn't find it except for sparc
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[11:19:42] <e^ipi> there has never been a version of SXCE prior to 97. you never saw it.
[11:19:47] <e^ipi> if you did see it, you will be reeducated.
[11:20:12] <e^ipi> I suggest you go here: http://opensolaris.org/os/downloads/sol_ex_dvd_1/
[11:20:21] <e^ipi> and disavow any knowledge of SXCE < 97
[11:20:28] <dom> assimilation is complete
[11:20:36] <e^ipi> excellent.
[11:20:57] <dom> so what about solaris 11??
[11:21:06] <e^ipi> ENOEXIST
[11:21:09] <dom> please don't tell me it will be based on opensolaris?
[11:21:33] <e^ipi> I'm not aware of sun's plans for whatever the next version of the Solaris product is
[11:21:53] <dom> very worrying
[11:22:46] <dom> if there's no solaris 11 in the old format corporate customers gonna drop solaris pdq :(
[11:23:37] <codestr0m> e^ipi: it looks like encrypted zfs is going to be close to a xmas present.. onnv_105        12/08/2008	12/15/2008
[11:24:00] <e^ipi> yes, so it would appear
[11:24:03] <e^ipi> there may be some slippage
[11:24:27] <e^ipi> which would put it past the gate closure, so you'd see it in the new year
[11:24:54] <codestr0m> well. that'll help with CISP compliance
[11:25:31] <codestr0m> I'm not sure the best current way to encrypt data on a zfs datasets
[11:25:50] <e^ipi> codestr0m: that would be "wait until december"
[11:26:14] <codestr0m> yeah. if I was really worried about compliance and urgently needed to deploy I'd go hw solution
[11:26:28] <codestr0m> , but then it's have to work with TPE or something
[11:26:42] <e^ipi> well, or you can grab the zfs-crypto stuff now and BFU
[11:27:05] <e^ipi> it's just under-tested
[11:27:16] <seanmcg> there is encryption via lofi now.   though that may not meet CISP compliance..
[11:27:35] <e^ipi> ( having not even seen codereview, let alone gone through the paperwork for putback )
[11:27:49] <codestr0m> Blindingly Fast Upgrade ? ;)
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[11:30:02] <e^ipi> codestr0m: i prefer the 'brick factory upgrade' moniker myself
[11:30:27] <e^ipi> but i think it's originally bonwick-faulkner upgrade
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[11:31:45] <codestr0m> frankly I could test, but in terms of hacking the code.. I'm sure there's probably a steep learning curve to that
[11:32:05] <e^ipi> no need to hack anything, you just build and bfu
[11:32:35] <codestr0m> yeah. and find bugs :P
[11:32:57] <e^ipi> presumably, yes
[11:34:10] <e^ipi> i dunno, ON isn't that hard to get a feel for
[11:34:24] <e^ipi> except the makefiles in usr/src/lib... the makefiles are a total gong-show
[11:35:01] <e^ipi> make is a turing complete language, usr/src/lib makefiles exploit this fact
[11:36:00] <e^ipi> just accept as an article of faith that they work
[11:36:10] <codestr0m> e^ipi: are they using autocrap.. I luv to hack m4 :P
[11:36:21] <e^ipi> no, they don't thank god
[11:36:30] * codestr0m *huggz* m4
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[11:37:55] <xRaich[o]2x> codestr0m: you are some kind of masochist? :P
[11:38:07] <e^ipi> i think that has already been established.
[11:38:12] <codestr0m> partly..
[11:38:36] <seanmcg> you read sendmail.cf too ?-)
[11:39:03] <codestr0m> I prefer postfix. :P
[11:39:43] <blahee> i actually used to understand sendmail.cf someshow while back some 15 years ago (it was kind of must back then :)
[11:39:52] <e^ipi> no you didn't
[11:40:15] <e^ipi> often when looking at random data the human mind will assign nonexistant patterns to it
[11:40:36] <e^ipi> /dev/urandom is actually just a symlink to /etc/sendmail.cf
[11:40:41] <blahee> and writing random blurbs in it propably made it make new things? :)
[11:40:49] <blahee> (i must have been soooo lucky)
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[11:41:24] <e^ipi> it's actually just exploiting quantum effects
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[11:41:50] <e^ipi> the question "is sendmail routing mail correctly" depends entirely on your observation of a quantum state
[11:41:51] <blahee> but i admit. I barely understood it and it IS horrible format
[11:43:41] * codestr0m looks at the contents of SUNWsndm
[11:44:13] <codestr0m> what the hell is this O SuperSafe=True
[11:44:23] <codestr0m> SuperSafe? nice naming convention buddy
[11:44:44] <codestr0m> he probably went on to later invent php
[11:44:46] <codestr0m> :P
[11:46:35] <xRaich[o]2x> codestr0m: If you want to take a look at a great naming convention. check out the zsh code. they have a struct named thingy and variables that are called foo =_='
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[11:47:04] <e^ipi> xRaich[o]2x: it's like code one writes for ones self
[11:47:17] <xRaich[o]2x> yep.
[11:48:01] <xRaich[o]2x> i ran into some bugs and it's a pita to figure out what's happening
[11:49:49] <codestr0m> I'm still getting growing my tcshrc.. needs some refining and customizing for Solaris, but has some interesting features..
[11:50:18] <charlie_lab> hi folks ... would anyone happen to use openSolaris as a vbox host OS, and then run a client OS with a real-time kernel (ie ubuntuStudio) ? .. would the client OS still retain it's tr characteristics ?
[11:50:40] <charlie_lab> (sorry for beign a bit OT :/ )
[11:50:52] <charlie_lab> <it's rt characteristics>
[11:52:11] <xRaich[o]2x> codestr0m: it would be so cool if ksh had the some tab completion stuff. but well... I'm trying to live with tcsh right now
[11:52:20] <xRaich[o]2x> s/some/same
[11:53:15] <codestr0m> xRaich[o]2x: in the source there's a big jumpstart on completion
[11:53:43] <codestr0m> I also had to read the manual to full appreciate history-search-backward
[11:53:54] <codestr0m> being bound to the up arrow
[11:54:03] <xRaich[o]2x> you like that now?
[11:54:08] <codestr0m> and the vi bits are very sweet
[11:55:09] <codestr0m> yeah. I still prefer the vi-search-back
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[12:20:24] <codestr0m> charlie_lab: 1) it's not a realtime kernel.. it's a linux kernel.. 2) those same packages are maybe already included in OpenSolaris and or authority 3) it'll probably run better on OpenSolaris than even if it was a native ubuntu host..
[12:20:34] <SYS64738> I have a little problem, I can install only with ufs, If I try to install with zfs it hangs on Creating dump zvol for pool rpool, any idea ?
[12:20:37] <codestr0m> another authority*
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[12:24:46] <charlie_lab> codestr0m: cheers for the info ... i only encontered real-time linux kernel in the last day or so, so am not really sure what they are all about ... i liked some of what i saw in ubuStudio, but if openSolaris has the same package support, then so much the better ... thank you
[12:26:50] <codestr0m> charlie_lab: sure. and I think the linux kernel may be close to having soft realtime support, but still.. yeah. figure out which programs you need.. such as gimp. which is installed by default with OpenSolaris.. other things you'll have to just explore..
[12:29:27] <dom> does SunStudio 12 install in 200805?
[12:30:01] <dom> i'm getting odd space errors
[12:30:07] <charlie_lab> codestr0m: yep :) ... just burned the install cd, so here goes ;)
[12:30:37] <codestr0m> dom: pfexec pkg install sunstudioexpress
[12:31:38] <codestr0m> and I manually installed the july 08 build and it worked fine.. while it was open I had some screwly behaviour with my keyboard layout, but otherwise it worked with my minimal testing
[12:31:47] <dom> hmm
[12:33:03] <dom> SPROcc is part of 200805?
[12:34:00] <codestr0m> dom: pkg search -r SPROcc
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[12:38:04] <dom> sorry what I meant was it is seems to be installed, is it part of default 200805 install?
[12:38:15] <codestr0m> dom: for me it was..
[12:38:29] <dom> great if it is, just seems odd for 'open'solaris to have proprietary cc ;)
[12:38:32] <codestr0m> I still pulled a newer version to test the difference
[12:38:42] <dom> cool
[12:38:52] <codestr0m> dom: well.. you'll need it. I think that's the point :P
[12:39:03] <dom> yes i'm happy :)
[12:39:56] <dom> unfortunately virtualbox on solaris10 reboots spontaneously if you try to install 200805 as a guest with bridged networking, so I can't use pkg :(
[12:40:28] <codestr0m> dom: install it as a container :P
[12:40:42] <Stric> or use NAT networking
[12:40:45] <codestr0m> (I'm not sure if solaris10 has that, but I'm sure someone will correct me)
[12:41:03] <Stric> s10 has containers
[12:41:12] <Stric> err. zones
[12:42:55] <dom> yes good idea
[12:43:03] <dom> i'm still fumbling my way round solaris as a desktop
[12:43:25] <codestr0m> dom: I know the feeling. for the last month I did the same exact thing you're going through
[12:43:39] <codestr0m> in  fact. I should write this.. newbies guide to opensolaris as a desktop
[12:43:40] <codestr0m> :P
[12:43:48] <dom> :)
[12:43:59] <dom> well i'm using solaris 10 as the desktop ;)
[12:44:14] <codestr0m> ok. then you're on your own :)
[12:44:20] <dom> :P
[12:45:01] <dom> i like the look of opensolaris, perhaps i'll switch to it
[12:45:08] <dom> is the dev version usable as a desktop?
[12:45:29] <codestr0m> dom: uptime
[12:45:29] <codestr0m>  12:43pm  up 14 day(s), 21:31,  1 user,  load average: 0.24, 0.22, 0.29
[12:45:59] <dom> will it run solaris10 as a branded zone?
[12:46:04] <codestr0m> I should probably update and reboot here soon, but so far it's very stable
[12:46:15] <codestr0m> dom: I think so, but don't quote me on that
[12:46:41] <codestr0m> it'll run fedora in a linux26 brandz
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[13:34:50] <charlie_lab> hi again ... the device detection (ont he install cd) applet has shown that my audio driver is misconfigured or absent ... i'm installing nonetheless, and was wondering if i'll be able to fix the problem after installation
[13:34:51] <charlie_lab> ?
[13:38:22] <edgy> Hi, I did fssnap -o bs=/var/tmp /export/home and then created some files with mkfile in export/home and I expected the /var/tmp/snapshot0 file to change its size but it's still the same, what's wrong in my understanding?
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[13:42:50] <TomJ> edgy: the filesystem snap file is always the full size of the whole partition
[13:43:04] <Vanuatoo> I'm trying to compile mplayer on SXCE 97. ./configure.sh script fails on this command
[13:43:14] <Vanuatoo> ! cmp -s "$TMPH" config.h && mv -f "$TMPH" config.h
[13:43:17] <edgy> TomJ: yes but du -sh would reveal the real size, right?
[13:43:58] <TomJ> edgy: no? if your /export/home has file system size 2GB, then your fssnap file is also 2GB. it contains every byte of that filesystem including all the empty space.  so making new files doesn't have any affect on the size of the file
[13:44:29] <edgy> TomJ: but du -sh /var/tmp/snapshot0 shows only some KB
[13:46:27] <TomJ> ok, well I dont know why du is doing that.. maybe it can indeed show the actual usage in the snapshot. but that doesnt matter anway..  the snapshot is a .. snapshot. it's a point in time copy. any changes you make subsequent are not recorded by definition
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[13:50:36] <leleobhz> someone can tell-me how can i install xview headers on solaris express?
[13:50:43] <edgy> TomJ: but if you did df -h before and after the snapshot the size is not changed which means the the snapshot really don't take space and this is according to docs
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[13:54:03] <edgy> TomJ: a snapshot is not an image of the filesystem, it's mostly pointers to available data blocks
[13:54:08] <charlie_lab> <nm, google to the recue :)
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[14:19:32] * houst0n- yawns
[14:19:44] <houst0n-> morning opensolaris folks........ how are we today?
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[14:23:08] <houst0n-> yo
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[14:28:46] <SYS64738> how can I find the name of my nic ?
[14:29:05] <houst0n-> SYS64738: ifconfig -a
[14:29:21] <SYS64738> I have installed networkless
[14:29:47] <houst0n-> Hmm, if you enable nwam for a second it should plumb all avil nics and they'll show up (provided you have the drivers)
[14:29:54] <houst0n-> svcadm enable physical:nwam
[14:29:57] <SYS64738> thanks
[14:30:59] <Vanuatoo> I've compiled mplayer for sxce97 but it crashes if I try to play wma file
[14:31:07] <Vanuatoo> I've also installed codecs
[14:31:13] <houst0n-> Vanuatoo: Did you use sfe?
[14:31:33] <Vanuatoo> houst0n-, no
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[14:32:04] <houst0n-> Why did you build it? There's new mplayer pkgs on blastwave.network.com/testing
[14:32:07] <houst0n-> Work fine for me
[14:33:37] <houst0n-> I would suggest, if you really want to build it, you use the sfe .spec files
[14:33:37] <houst0n-> I've built from those before without probs
[14:34:00] <houst0n-> http://pkgbuild.sourceforge.net/spec-files-extra/
[14:34:53] <houst0n-> Although those are a bit of a pain, they dump everything under /usr by default and if you want to change that (edit include/Solaris.inc include/base.inc) then you need to do a few extra things sometimes
[14:35:03] <houst0n-> like updare crle to search <whatever your prefix/lib
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[14:49:06] <jgracin> Hi! Is there any way to read ext2fs from Solaris?  I've tried FSWfsmisc from
[14:49:24] <jgracin> belenix but it doesn't support large files
[14:49:31] <jgracin> >2GB
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[15:10:46] <SYS64738> how can I make static network settings ?
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[15:16:31] <Stric> SYS64738: http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/806-0916/6ja85399o?a=view
[15:16:50] <SYS64738> thanks
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[15:43:19] <nivox> jgracin: this may be useful: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/ext3/
[15:43:55] <nivox> jgracin: it still in alpha state... but it might get the jod done
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[15:44:35] <jgracin> nivox: Thanks!  I'll try it.
[15:50:15] <SYS64738> can xVM work in 32bit arch ?
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[15:54:12] <_mary_kate_> yes
[15:55:08] <SYS64738> If i boot in xVM it goes in panic mode
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[16:11:43] <codestr0m> I really hope someone is around who may be able to advise.. I'm trying to establish a serial connection to a server locally and get minicom: cannot open /dev/term/b: No such file or directory
[16:11:54] <codestr0m> I'm not sure if I should treat this like linux or what
[16:12:58] <codestr0m> should I create /dev/ttyS0 ?
[16:13:40] * Tempt shakes his head
[16:13:41] <Tempt> No.
[16:13:44] <Tempt> Don't do that
[16:14:12] <Tempt> work out which terminal device you need to use and .. use it.
[16:16:34] <codestr0m> Tempt: mind giving me a hand with this..  I mean I know the correct settings to connect... should I mess with  /etc/inittab and restart?
[16:19:30] <Tempt> What on earth are you trying to do?
[16:20:47] <codestr0m> Tempt: opensolaris laptop and create a serial connection to linux on dell poweredge.. normally I just make sure the kernel has support for serial devices.. make sure the ttyS0 is there. minicom in with the right settings and that's it
[16:21:08] <Tempt> Well, I can't speak for the linux/dell part.
[16:21:15] <Tempt> God knows what you need to do to get that shit working.
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[16:21:36] <Tempt> But for the laptop side, you should just feed minicom or whatever program you like the correct serial device and it'll work
[16:22:04] <Tempt>  /dev/term/a and /dev/term/b are common, and /dev/term/0 is pretty common for USB serial
[16:22:23] <codestr0m> Tempt: what's the correct serial device.. /dev/term/b isn't there. and I'm not thrilled about guessing.. btw. thanks for helping
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[16:23:51] <Tempt> well
[16:23:57] <Tempt> what devices *are* there?
[16:24:05] <codestr0m> /dev/term/a
[16:24:09] <Tempt> well
[16:24:11] <Tempt> try that
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[16:31:16] <codestr0m> Tempt: no output.. should I try echoing to the device to see if I'm getting anything back..
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[16:32:45] <Tempt> Well, /dev/term/a is pretty obvious choice for a laptop's only serial port.
[16:32:51] <Tempt> I'd tend to assume that'd be correct.
[16:33:12] <Tempt> So next you'll want to find a way to test the target device and your cabling
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[16:43:30] <codestr0m> Tempt: well. good news is that I can connect from one laptop to the other. (opensolaris >> gentoo).. so that rules out cable.. I'll fiddle with connection settings.. thanks for trying to help
[16:44:27] <Tempt> Well, that's good.
[16:45:56] <codestr0m> this server is driving me crazy though. It has severe restrictions.. even on physical access. for example. can't just login at the prompt..
[16:46:07] <codestr0m> mf keyboard drivers have been removed..
[16:46:13] <codestr0m> bios locked
[16:46:17] <Tempt> Well, just .. turn .. it .. off.
[16:46:56] <codestr0m> can't get in.. I'd have to figure out how to factor reset the bios.... I have a login.. I just need serial access :P
[16:47:13] <Vanuatoo> I try to install package using pkgbuild and it requires SUNWncurses-devel package but I could not find it
[16:47:19] <codestr0m> I'm rambling. this is clearly some configuration issue
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[17:49:44] <bourgois> I am looking for some help in understanding the 2008.05 management for network setup/configuration and system updates
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[17:53:02] <bourgois> Is there a utility to manage network connections?
[17:54:36] <tsoome1> ifconfig
[17:56:00] <bourgois> and what utility is used to system patch management?  smpatch?
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[17:58:42] <bourgois> Perhaps I am in the wrong channel.  Is there a better channel to ask questions about 2008.05?
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[18:12:41] <wonko2> anyone here use netbsd's pkgsrc with osol?
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[18:32:28] <charlie_lab> codestr0m: openSolaris installed and ran beautifully (bar one slight audio hiccup (fixed) and an apci prob (unlooked at yet) ...
[18:32:37] * charlie_lab is mightily impressed
[18:33:23] <charlie_lab> so, thanks for the redirect back to pure openSol :)
[18:35:17] <chendy> opensolaris 2008.05 or S
[18:35:25] <chendy> SXCE ?
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[18:44:54] <wonko2> charlie_lab: what did you install it onto?
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[18:56:55] <codestr0m> charlie_lab: I thought you'd find it a bit more friendly.. the APCI stuff. does that have anything to do with media buttons by chance or something else?
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[19:08:06] <charlie_lab> wonko2:  a leonovo t61 laptop
[19:09:36] <charlie_lab> codestr0m: it is the only OS install i've tried which picks up nvidia cards, without any user intervention needed  :)
[19:09:49] <charlie_lab> and thats the merest tip it seems :)
[19:09:59] <charlie_lab> the vfs seems to have inbuilt compression ?
[19:10:53] * charlie_lab will read the docs soon
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[19:15:36] <techqbert> I'm having a hell of a time changing my ip from dhcp to static on indiana w/o the gnome GUI.
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[19:20:10] <wonko2> does indiana do it differently that real solaris does?
[19:20:46] <wonko2> charlie_lab: yeah, same experience here with b97 on this dell d630, it just picked up everything (except the audio, which doesn't bother me) and it all just works
[19:20:53] <techqbert> I never worked with solaris but according to a poster on some forum- yes.  i'm from linux world and this is excruciating.
[19:21:03] <wonko2> charlie_lab: what do you mean by vfs and inbuilt compression?
[19:21:18] <techqbert> now my sfe0 is lost
[19:21:30] <wonko2> does it show up in 'ifconfig -a'?
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[19:22:40] <techqbert> pfft now it does wonko2.  I just enabled nwam.
[19:23:32] <wonko2> mwam?
[19:23:38] <techqbert> ping google.com - no response.  I followed sandersw's approach here.  http://forums.opensolaris.com/thread.jspa?threadID=366
[19:24:41] <wonko2> oh, i would have told you the real solaris admin way to do it. :)
[19:24:49] <wonko2> i'm not even sure what mwam is, never heard of it
[19:25:03] <wonko2> that seems to be an indiana thing
[19:25:14] <wonko2> as it's not on my sxce install here
[19:27:37] <techqbert> wonko2: ah I see.  would you set up /etc/hostname.sfe0 and all that jazz?
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[19:28:44] <techqbert> I really should have set up the static IP on my gateway
[19:29:37] <mega> hi
[19:30:23] <charlie_lab> wonko2: sorry, i meant zfs ... and the disk meter report a much larger disk than i have, so i assumed it used automatic comression
[19:30:34] <charlie_lab> <reports>
[19:31:36] <charlie_lab> wonko2: i found a link to a page which offers a replacement audiohd ... i copied a single file into the right place in the 'dev' hierachy, and sounds seems ok nopw
[19:31:53] <charlie_lab> i can dig it out if you thinks it worth a try
[19:37:41] <techqbert> does indiana suck for a headless NAS?  I hate gnome and this thing doesn't grab an IP for SSH on boot.  aghh
[19:38:53] <sporq> those 2540's are the suck.
[19:39:16] <sporq> guess that's why the 3510's cost so much more.
[19:39:32] <cmihai> techqbert: iSCSI, NFS, CIFS or FTP?
[19:39:55] <cmihai> Either way, Solaris 10 or SXCE would do just as well.
[19:40:28] <cmihai> Headless + Indiana == suckage, since you can't JumpStart or use the text mode installer via serial, etc.
[19:40:39] <_spike> does it normally take -days- to resilver an array?
[19:40:56] <_spike> like a drive failed, i replaced it with a new drive, and did zpool replace tank blah blah
[19:40:59] <cmihai> lol, no :-)
[19:41:03] <cmihai> How many disks?
[19:41:14] <cmihai> And how much data :-)
[19:41:17] <e^ipi> 'zpool status'
[19:41:19] <_spike> it says replacing ,but it's been going at it fo days now, and i can't see the eta at the top anymore cause its in safe mode i don't have the key mappings for page up or whatnot
[19:41:21] <_spike> 15 750GB
[19:41:40] <_spike> yeah zpool status shows its still replacing, but the eta scrolls by to fast to see
[19:41:54] <e^ipi> yeah, who cares about that
[19:41:57] <e^ipi> any faults?
[19:42:03] <_spike> no faults
[19:42:05] <_spike> but its degraded
[19:42:10] <_spike> and the one disk still says replacing
[19:42:16] <_spike> on the old disk, it says unable to open
[19:42:30] <_spike> but it  doesn't show an error for the new disk that i replaced the old one with
[19:42:39] <e^ipi> did you not do a 'zpool replace' ?
[19:42:40] <_spike> like the /s0 or whatever it is is the origional one
[19:42:52] <_spike> yeah i did a zpool replace
[19:43:01] <_spike> so now it shows both the old drive and the new one, sec letme glance at the screen again
[19:43:21] <e^ipi> i don't remember if it should do that
[19:43:32] <_spike> i did replace tank c4t1d0 c4t1d0
[19:43:47] <_spike> and now it has a c4t1d0 and a c4t1d0s/o or something like that
[19:43:50] <_spike> and a c4t1d0
[19:44:45] <_spike> the new disk says that it's online, and the old one says unavail
[19:44:53] <_spike> am i suppose to remove one of the devs now or something?
[19:45:01] <_spike> like do i zpool remove tank c4t1d0s/o or something like that?
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[19:46:31] <_spike> hmmm silence
[19:46:32] <_spike> heh
[19:46:34] <_spike> anybody got any ideas?
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[19:47:41] <_spike> what should i do?
[19:47:41] <_spike> lol
[19:49:10] <techqbert> I bowed down to nwam and scvadm disable gdm so I think i'm alright now
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[19:49:57] <techqbert> yay and opensolaris asks for a dhcp so it gets its static dhcp off my gateway. woo hoo.
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[19:53:08] <techqbert> since I'll mainly be using indiana as a headless NAS, where can I configure grub so that it doesn't take 27 seconds to boot into the correct environment?
[19:53:40] <e^ipi> same place you always do
[19:54:08] * hile_ wonders why for the love of God, you'd use indiana for that
[19:54:39] <bourgois> can I add hidden SSIDs to nwamd?
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[19:58:07] <dclarke> sed question .. I should know this .. but it ain't working .. to strip leading white space do a sed 's/^[ \t]*//'
[19:59:08] <bourgois> techqbert  this is the most unhelpful channel.  I am not an expert, but my guess is it is in grub.conf.
[19:59:46] <dclarke> never mind .. Sun sed will not expand \t to a tab .. you need to actually type a TAB char there
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[20:00:26] <wonko2> techqbert: yes, that's exactly what i would have done. :)
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[20:00:49] <wonko2> charlie_lab: i don't *think* zfs compression is enabled by default, at least it doesn't seem to have been on my b97 install onto the laptop
[20:01:09] <wonko2> charlie_lab: what audio hardware do you have?
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[20:02:13] <_spike> you run solaris on your laptop
[20:02:13] <_spike> heh
[20:03:05] <wonko2> dclarke: that's..... silly.
[20:03:11] <wonko2> _spike: yeah
[20:03:20] * wonko2 is a solaris fanboi
[20:03:30] <dclarke> wonko2: what is silly ?
[20:03:37] <dclarke> wonko2: oh .. the sed thing
[20:03:41] <wonko2> i think i'm going to have to install fluxbox though, i don't much care for this gnome thing
[20:03:45] <wonko2> dclarke: yeah, the sed thing
[20:03:45] <dclarke> wonko2: yeah .. that is silly
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[20:04:01] <dclarke> only time I have ever seen \t not mean TAB
[20:04:26] <dclarke> but oh well .. the sed in /usr/xpg4/binsed is hellis hstandardized and supposed to work no matter what
[20:04:40] <dclarke> you just need to know how to use it with a shell like /usr/xpg4/sh
[20:04:44] <techqbert> bourgois: that's where I usually toy with grub but I can't find it.  I wish find had -iname search not just name.  nonetheless, name will find it for me in /boot
[20:04:46] <dclarke> you just need to know how to use it with a shell like /usr/xpg4/bin/sh
[20:05:01] <techqbert> hile_: it's really not all that bad
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[20:05:33] <wonko2> techqbert: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[20:05:47] <wonko2> which, like e^ipi said, where you always do. :)
[20:05:58] <wonko2> ok, lesson learned, don't dock the d630
[20:06:03] <wonko2> solaris isn't too groovy with that
[20:06:17] <techqbert> wonko2: For zfs root, menu.lst has moved to /rpool/boot/grub/menu.lst  Thanks for the heads up.
[20:06:17] <_spike> aha just had to detach the old drive
[20:06:17] <_spike> thanks guys
[20:06:18] <_spike> later.
[20:06:31] <wonko2> oh, it has?
[20:06:34] <wonko2> that's good to know
[20:06:37] <dclarke> be back in a while .. maybe
[20:06:39] <wonko2> that probably would have bitten me. :)
[20:06:40] <_spike> and btw, opensolaris.org is -faaassstt- i'm pulling the latest 97 at like 35mbit right now
[20:06:41] * dclarke vanishes
[20:07:07] <wonko2> this is my first zfs root box (not counting the b81 box i have using tim's script to "convert" it)
[20:08:51] <techqbert> wonko2: zfs and raidz brought me here.  gotta love it
[20:10:01] <blahee> _spike: it's coming from akaimai anyway, so fast and fast :)
[20:10:46] <codestr0m> wonko2: you'll need the oss drivers probably
[20:12:50] <wonko2> codestr0m: how do i get the details about what my audio hardware really is?
[20:12:57] <wonko2> is there some command i can run to pull the details?
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[20:21:56] <h3sp4wn> wonko2: /usr/X11/bin/scanpci is what I would use
[20:22:37] <wonko2> why the hell is that in X11/bin?
[20:23:52] <h3sp4wn> Its part of Xorg - there is prtconf as well
[20:24:26] <wonko2> ok, that's still strange to me, but, i'll not complain since i'm glad it's there. ;)
[20:25:50] <wonko2> prtconf doesn't give me useful info about it (not surprising really)
[20:26:12] <wonko2> but, scanpci did the trick
[20:26:12] <wonko2> thanks!
[20:28:14] <wonko2> now to figure out why pkgsrc doesn't want to bootstrap and i'll be mostly set
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[20:30:13] <wonko2> sweet, the oss drivers did the trick, yay!
[20:34:07] <h3sp4wn> wonko2: Its much easier if you bootstrap with sun studio
[20:35:04] <wonko2> h3sp4wn: i am
[20:35:18] <wonko2> but it's crapping out trying to run some awk script
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[20:35:22] <wonko2> b81 didn't do this to me
[20:35:26] <wonko2> but b97 is
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[20:36:40] <h3sp4wn> try doing the bootstrap with Q2 2008 and then updating the tree to current after
[20:37:07] <codestr0m> wonko2: from the gui. .go to system > about opensolaris > devices
[20:37:18] <codestr0m> report your hardware that doesn't have a driver
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[20:38:04] <codestr0m> cmihai: do you have a headless installer for 2008.05? and if not I may be making one pretty soon.. I'm going to be converting some servers from linux over to opensolaris in the very near future and have limited remote resources
[20:38:32] <wonko2> where is System?  I don't see that.
[20:38:45] <codestr0m> wonko2: if you have the bluetooth module you may also notice some drivers/tools are missing
[20:38:51] <cmihai> codestr0m: Just use SXCE, you can JumpStart that (complete with ZFS boot).
[20:38:55] <codestr0m> wonko2: look near what would be the start menu
[20:39:01] <cmihai> OpenSolaris is just a stripped down SXCE with pkg.
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[20:39:20] <cmihai> (and the things from pkg repos are all in SXCE anyway)
[20:39:50] <codestr0m> cmihai: can I later break SXCE to use IPS?
[20:39:53] <wonko2> codestr0m: ok (little java logo start button thingie)
[20:40:11] <cmihai> codestr0m: heh, not really. I think SXCE 100 will have IPS?
[20:40:22] <cmihai> So if you wait 6 weeks, probably.
[20:40:39] <cmihai> Don't really see the point seeing how all the stuff from IPS is on the DVD.
[20:40:46] <codestr0m> Umm.. well. I can only hope I come up with a solution before then ;)
[20:41:10] <wonko2> IPS being intrusion protection system, or something else?
[20:41:25] <codestr0m> wonko2: IPS being the new packaging system
[20:41:27] <cmihai> It's the Python slow-ass apt-get clone.
[20:42:17] <wonko2> oh, i can live without that then. :)
[20:42:38] <wonko2> (being lazy)--
[20:42:52] <wonko2> i should really move my jeep to the garage since it's raining pretty hard and the doors are off
[20:42:58] <wonko2> but i don't feel like going out in the rain
[20:42:59] <wonko2> ;)
[20:43:34] <techqbert> anybody in here get rtorrent working?
[20:43:42] <cmihai> No, I use mldonkey.
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[20:43:58] <cmihai> it supports torrents too, and I love running it as a daemon.
[20:43:58] <codestr0m> techqbert: try transmission
[20:44:03] <codestr0m> works flawlessly for me
[20:44:13] <wonko2> i had issues getting libtorrent to build for rtorrent
[20:44:16] <cmihai> I got uTorrent working :P
[20:44:26] <wonko2> i had issues getting all sorts of crap to build for mldonkey
[20:44:37] <wonko2> and i forget what issues i had with transmission
[20:44:41] <wonko2> although i'd like to try that one again
[20:44:46] <techqbert> codestr0m: i want torrent support at the command-line.
[20:44:54] <codestr0m> Transmission 1.21 (5898)
[20:45:01] <wonko2> right now i'm running bitflu
[20:45:05] <wonko2> and it seems to be working well
[20:45:07] <cmihai> mldonkey == torrent support at the command-line.
[20:45:09] <codestr0m> techqbert: dunno about that then
[20:45:13] <cmihai> Plus, it's a daemon you telnet / auth to.
[20:45:18] <cmihai> So it can run in the background.
[20:45:23] <wonko2> other than some odd file descriptor limit issue
[20:45:26] <cmihai> Supports e-donkey and other stuff too :-=)
[20:45:40] <techqbert> woah transmissioncli = transmission at the command line.
[20:45:51] <cmihai> http://bp2.blogger.com/_YFgpCPoV-8g/SFTspi4S_gI/AAAAAAAAAfU/yiwPI7dNrsQ/s1600-h/MortalKombar4-Solaris.png - uTorrent in the systray :P
[20:45:54] <techqbert> cmihai: ah really.  hrm
[20:46:15] <codestr0m> techqbert: good to know :)
[20:46:31] <cmihai> Some torrent sites require uTorrent as a client and I'm too lazy to change the version strings in mldonkey :-)
[20:46:56] <TomJ> cmihai: run how? Wine?
[20:46:58] <cmihai> Besides, even with Wine uTorrent uses less RAM / CPU than pretty much anything else.
[20:47:08] <cmihai> Yeah. It's actually quite stable :-)
[20:47:11] <TomJ> cool
[20:47:16] <cmihai> Pulling stuff at 10MB/s, no worries.
[20:47:30] <techqbert> agh no rtorrent, bitflu, or mldonkey at sunfreeware or blastwave
[20:47:37] <wonko2> bitflu is a perl script
[20:47:38] <codestr0m> god.. what ugly icons.. you copy those over from cde?
[20:47:45] <wonko2> you don't need a package
[20:48:33] <e^ipi> codestr0m: you know what, if you're going to complain either 1) don't use it or 2) contribute something better
[20:48:51] <e^ipi> it /is/ open-source after all
[20:49:01] <cmihai> Heh.
[20:49:14] <cmihai> I kind of like the Gnome them in current SXCE builds.
[20:49:44] <codestr0m> e^ipi: settle down.... and I thankfully have changed mine.. :P
[20:51:31] <e^ipi> cmihai: nimbus?
[20:52:01] <e^ipi> it kinna reminds me of traffic lights
[20:52:13] <e^ipi> but miles above the S10 theme
[20:52:24] <e^ipi> not saying it's bad, it's kinna neat
[20:52:44] <e^ipi> but when nimbus first appeared i thought "should I brake now?"
[20:53:11] <codestr0m> what would it take to get emerald ported over?
[20:53:28] <e^ipi> codestr0m: either code or money, presumably
[20:55:13] <codestr0m> e^ipi: you're on a tear aren't you? I meant if compiz-fusion compiles/runs.. did anyone know if emerald just didn't met some other criteria.. for example why NetworkManager isn't being used
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[20:59:15] <bradd_> hi, my SXCE seems to go to sleep after awhile. I can't bring it back by pressing keys. any ideas?
[21:02:39] <charlie_lab> sorry wonko2 was away for a bit
[21:03:03] <wonko2> not a problem
[21:04:21] <charlie_lab> i'm not exactly sure of the audio h/w :/
[21:04:30] <wonko2> it's ok, i got it fixed
[21:04:35] <wonko2> the oss driver did the trick
[21:05:10] <charlie_lab> ah nice ... that was my 'fallback' plan :)
[21:05:35] <e^ipi> really? that's plan A for me
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[21:05:59] <charlie_lab> e^ipi: i tried them in the order i came across them :/
[21:06:12] <charlie_lab> i was just thinking the oss solution might be better
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[21:06:52] <charlie_lab> heh, i should have simply asked here, instead of trawling google results ;)
[21:07:06] <e^ipi> NO!
[21:07:14] <e^ipi> google first!
[21:07:39] * charlie_lab was kidding ... (see the 'wink') ... :)
[21:07:46] <smtms> the parallel search in the minds of #opensolaris users gives more relevant results :-)
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[21:07:50] <codestr0m> charlie_lab: let me know what you googled for.. my blog has been getting quite a few hints from this desktop related stuff
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[21:12:00] <wonko2> h3sp4wn: ah ha!  2008q2 bootstraps just fine, now i'll upgrade. :)
[21:12:01] <wonko2> thanks!
[21:12:46] <charlie_lab> codestr0m:     google: opensolaris audio lenovo t61         i think that was it
[21:13:04] <charlie_lab> mm, i've just had a spot of bother :/
[21:13:54] <charlie_lab> during an update of the core system (after a fresh install) ... the update hung 1/4 way thru the actual packages install
[21:14:45] <charlie_lab> foolishly, i closed all windows and rebooted, and now am getting some sort of 'trap' error just after starting solaris from grub
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[21:15:54] <edgy> e^ipi: hi
[21:17:01] <e^ipi> yo
[21:17:13] <edgy> e^ipi: I have a small problem in understanding fssnap, the backstore doesn't change size by the same amount files are deleted or added to the backed up system
[21:17:24] <e^ipi> why are you asking me?
[21:17:25] <charlie_lab> "panic[cpu0]/thread=fffff(etc): BAD TRAP: type=d (#gp general protection)
[21:17:49] <charlie_lab> ... which does not look good :/
[21:18:16] <edgy> e^ipi: because you helped me before and I felt you are expert ;) beside no one helped me yet though I asked some hours ago
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[21:18:30] <e^ipi> edgy: also, why are you not using zfs?
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[21:18:56] <edgy> e^ipi: I will but I felt I want to know the history of solaris
[21:19:49] <e^ipi> planning on adminning old systems in the near future?
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[21:31:34] <techqbert> where is the log I should check when opensolaris panics?
[21:35:57] <neonum6> nivox: hi
[21:36:41] <nivox> neonum6: hi there
[21:37:31] <wonko2> techqbert: if it didn't say anything useful is /var/adm/messages, you're going to need to look at the crashdump
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[21:51:34] <techqbert> wonko2: thanks.  memory connection detected when I was streaming a movie to my ubuntu box over SSH2
[21:52:10] <e^ipi> jesus man
[21:52:19] <e^ipi> that's what NFS is for
[21:55:02] <jbk> well wouldn't want anyone to watch the movie, would we? :)
[21:56:23] <e^ipi> so set up a vpn between the two machines
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[22:20:03] <revstray> hi :) I'm trying OpenSolaris for the first time, running it within the new VirtualBox on OS X 10.5. However I am finding networking to be a little odd, apaprently NWAM is supposed to take care of the network side, but uhm... it isn't working :)
[22:20:42] <turtle> DRILL NOW IN NWAM!!!!
[22:21:06] <revstray> since this disables the System > Administration > Network app, what are some next steps I should try?
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[22:25:11] <nivox> revstray: check /etc/nsswithc.conf
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[22:26:05] <RavenSlay3r> hey all
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[22:27:09] <RavenSlay3r> I've got this CIFS/SMB share on SXCE but even after running 'chmod -R 777 *' on the files client machines sometimes can't create/delete files.
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[22:28:03] <RavenSlay3r> no ACL are set - do I need them just to let client machines have full-access to these folders?
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[23:17:07] <codestr0m> how do I uninstall SUNWgnome-im-client.. there's a dep on slim_install, but it's contents are only "PATH"
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[23:17:38] <codestr0m> I have this feeling I probably shouldn't just remove slim_install
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