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[00:50:52] <_mary_kate_> lukehasnoname: protection against bad disks (checksums). compression. instant snapshots. clones. trivial incremental backup [00:50:57] *** sah-work has joined #opensolaris [00:51:16] <e^ipi> lukehasnoname: not randomly wiping out your data? [00:51:43] <e^ipi> well, i guess not 'randomly' so much as 'on non-clean poweroff' [00:51:52] <_mary_kate_> lukehasnoname: NFSv4 ACLs, per-user filesystems with quotas, delegated administration.. [00:52:10] <e^ipi> layout optimization [00:52:12] <_mary_kate_> oh, and solaris instead of linux ;) [00:52:18] <e^ipi> ( write anywhere ) [00:52:31] <lukehasnoname> damnit, I have class. [00:52:34] <lukehasnoname> eh... [00:52:43] <_mary_kate_> an integrated volume manager, so you don't need to mess with a seperate lvm [00:52:52] <lukehasnoname> e^ipi will be here in 2hrs, right? [00:52:54] <lukehasnoname> :) [00:52:59] *** Rarok has quit IRC [00:53:03] <e^ipi> i never leave really [00:53:06] * e^ipi has no life [00:53:08] <lukehasnoname> heh [00:53:25] <lukehasnoname> alright. I'm thinking FBSD, Ubuntu, or Solaris for a 3-4 TB storage server [00:53:28] *** syamajala2 has quit IRC [00:53:35] <e^ipi> go with solaris... then you get ZFS [00:53:39] <e^ipi> in a stable form [00:53:48] <e^ipi> also, then you get solaris [00:53:52] <_mary_kate_> i don't think freebsd zfs is production quality, by their own admission. so you'd get, what, UFS? not the best FS for 4TB of storage [00:53:53] <syndrome71> hehe [00:53:54] <lukehasnoname> I hear good and bad [00:54:21] <lukehasnoname> END CONVO: I need to go to lab. [00:54:37] <syndrome71> My take is that provided you are not hosting huge Oracle tablespaces you should love it... [00:55:01] <syndrome71> Everything I have tried on it has worked well - the only one that's been somewhat of an issue to me is large oracle stuff [00:55:12] <syndrome71> if it's a general purpose filesystem, it's gold [00:55:20] <e^ipi> i think there's a tuning guide for oracle and zfs somewhere out there [00:55:33] <e^ipi> i know very little about how to best roll out oracle [00:56:08] <syndrome71> there is a tuning guide, though it's still very much up to the actual implementation... [01:05:15] *** clyons has quit IRC [01:05:33] *** clyons has joined #opensolaris [01:15:37] *** comay has quit IRC [01:16:47] *** LeftWing has joined #OpenSolaris [01:20:24] *** dunc has joined #opensolaris [01:22:46] *** ninjaslim has quit IRC [01:25:11] *** WIZ has quit IRC [01:26:44] *** rmesta has quit IRC [01:27:04] *** rmesta has joined #opensolaris [01:27:15] *** ShadowHntr has quit IRC [01:29:57] *** gissi has quit IRC [01:37:56] *** WickedWicky has quit IRC [01:39:40] *** asarch has joined #opensolaris [01:43:55] *** Aria has quit IRC [01:54:56] *** _teo_ has quit IRC [02:06:26] *** Odin- has quit IRC [02:07:14] *** clyons has quit IRC [02:11:36] <techqbert> indiana doesn't load pages in firefox well at all. anybody have this problem before? [02:11:50] *** palowoda has joined #opensolaris [02:11:53] <insomnia> http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/08/24/funny-pictures-omgomgomg/ [02:16:47] <lukehasnoname> OK, I'm back. Anyway, how does ZFS stack against ANY other filesystem for hosting a load of files, from several MB to several GB? Trivial backups in ZFS, you say? ALSO, no one answered if osol had HD encryption. [02:17:51] <techqbert> lukehasnoname: i'm a recent osol convert. osol has no disk-wide encryption yet (project exists). truecrypt, with which I have a lot of familiarity, has not been ported to osol either. There might be other encryption programs however [02:18:28] <techqbert> zfs encryption is in beta [02:19:12] <techqbert> I imagine Google could pick up some benchmarks. I will tell you that ZFS is very hungry on RAM [02:19:38] <reflect> and CPU, at times [02:20:49] <lukehasnoname> hmm [02:21:45] <lukehasnoname> I'm an Ubuntu guy, and Ubuntu easily has most of the basic things I would need (HD encryption, RAID, etc.) I was just wondering if ZFS would give me a major advantage. [02:21:50] *** bahumbug has joined #opensolaris [02:22:03] *** piwi has joined #opensolaris [02:28:08] *** netj has quit IRC [02:29:03] *** niq has quit IRC [02:29:11] <insomnia> a major advantage at what? [02:29:15] <techqbert> lukehasnoname: I recommend this read. http://developers.sun.com/openstorage/articles/opensolaris_storage_server.html [02:29:59] *** bahumbug has quit IRC [02:31:58] <lukehasnoname> techqbert: Didn't really tell me "what" or "pros/cons" but more of "how" [02:32:41] <lukehasnoname> insomnia: at file management, access speed, or anything else I might not know about [02:35:39] *** beck has joined #opensolaris [02:35:41] <beck> hello [02:35:50] <beck> I have a big question i hope somebody can help me [02:36:20] <insomnia> are you going to eventually ask the big question? [02:36:32] <beck> I have a qfe0 with IP 1.1.1.2 and my gateway is 1.1.1.1 , so my packets to other networks routed by 1.1.1.1 are from IP 1.1.1.2 [02:36:43] <beck> but when i add a qfe0:1 with IP 1.1.1.3 [02:37:00] *** Tekni has joined #opensolaris [02:37:05] <beck> the outboundpackets automatically are from 1.1.1.3 [02:37:08] <techqbert> lukehasnoname: zfs is simple, checksums all data, takes easy snapshots, gets into raid1 (mirrow) or raid5 (raidz) very easily, and retains very high data integrity. this is why I use zfs. [02:37:25] <beck> I want to establish a default 'source IP' [02:37:40] <beck> does anybody knows how ? [02:37:50] <insomnia> yes [02:38:10] <insomnia> add a gateway to the config for the interface. [02:38:27] <thana> lukehasnoname: if you realy like linux you should watch the development of btrfs... [02:38:34] <insomnia> ifconfig interface inet x.x.x.x netmask x.x.x.x gw x.x.x.x up [02:38:49] <beck> but is there a bit or something i can modify in real time with ifconfig or route [02:39:01] <insomnia> you could add a route [02:39:03] <beck> i read in ifconfig man page that 'bigger metrics assign less priority in routing' [02:39:18] <beck> yeah but i was thinking 'which route' [02:39:27] <beck> because I have my default gateway to 1.1.1.1 [02:39:30] <insomnia> 'this interface has this inet, this netmask, uses this gateway' [02:40:11] <beck> yeah but the qfe0:1 has the same netmask , same inet and same gateway , so i dunno where to put the priority thing [02:40:23] <e^ipi> lukehasnoname: you know that list of things you have to do to set up raid with linux lvm ? [02:40:31] <beck> is an IP of the same network [02:40:51] <beck> but I want that the applications use by default the qfe0 nor qfe0:1 [02:40:52] <lukehasnoname> e^ipi: vaguely, though it isn't THAT tough. [02:40:58] <lukehasnoname> but go on [02:41:00] <e^ipi> lukehasnoname: here's the equivalent for zfs: "zpool create mypool raidz <drive> <drive> <drive> " [02:41:19] <beck> so the lame thing i do is to reasign the stuff in reverse order [02:41:27] <beck> and i get my qfe0 by default again [02:41:41] <beck> but i think theres a better way [02:41:41] <insomnia> so you want traffic shaping [02:41:41] <lukehasnoname> o_O [02:41:43] <e^ipi> need to expand your pool? "zpool add mypool <drive>" [02:41:53] <e^ipi> instantly get <drive size> more space [02:41:57] <lukehasnoname> *downloads osol* [02:42:17] <beck> lukehasnoname i just want that all applications use by default a source address that i define in some place [02:42:20] <e^ipi> and i mean /instantly/ [02:42:25] <beck> instead of my aliases [02:42:32] <e^ipi> not "after about 5 mins while it lays stuff out" [02:42:51] <e^ipi> it takes milliseconds [02:43:30] <lukehasnoname> beck: Are you talking to me? [02:44:10] <lukehasnoname> e^ipi: should I get SXCE or 08.05 [02:44:28] <beck> lukehasnoname sorry :p [02:45:36] <e^ipi> lukehasnoname: 2008.05 is more linuxy, sxce is more solaris-y [02:45:41] <e^ipi> i use SXCE [02:45:58] <e^ipi> it doesn't fetch packages from the internet automatically [02:46:09] <e^ipi> i consider this an advantage. others disagree. [02:51:38] *** asarch has quit IRC [02:51:38] *** beck has quit IRC [02:51:43] *** beck has joined #opensolaris [02:55:15] <jbk> has anyone actually put together a definitive list of things that need to happen to build ON on OS2005.08? [02:55:27] <jbk> or is it 'hack away at it until it works' [02:57:10] *** beck has quit IRC [02:58:05] *** Kernel86 has quit IRC [02:59:01] <e^ipi> mostly just hack away at it [02:59:30] *** stevel has quit IRC [03:01:08] <jbk> uugh [03:03:27] *** jtmuzix has joined #opensolaris [03:03:50] *** bondolo has quit IRC [03:05:24] <lukehasnoname> e^ipi: Have you ever done an encrypted FS/LVM/RAID on and Ubuntu /install/? [03:07:29] <kgoetz> morning all, morning e^ipi :) [03:07:42] *** Berny_ has joined #opensolaris [03:09:42] <lukehasnoname> also, does the 200805 iso have 64 bit? [03:10:02] <xRaich[o]2x> yes [03:10:07] <xRaich[o]2x> it has both [03:10:17] <lkthomas> e^ipi, you there ? [03:10:33] <lkthomas> I got a fresh installed solaris with e1000g network card [03:10:52] <lkthomas> but then when I open gnome network config panel, it crashed [03:11:14] <lkthomas> any explanation for this ? [03:11:45] *** bubbva has quit IRC [03:11:51] <e^ipi> gnome network config panel doesn't understand NWAM yet [03:13:38] <lukehasnoname> Will the Solaris 10 documentation cover osol well enough? [03:13:48] <e^ipi> yes [03:14:04] <lkthomas> I see [03:14:06] <lkthomas> so it is normal [03:14:12] <lkthomas> any config guide for that ? [03:14:40] <lkthomas> or, is there have any solaris controlling tools that I could use to config interface ? [03:14:43] <e^ipi> lkthomas: no idea, like i mentioned before i use SXCE so nwam isn't even in effect [03:15:40] <lkthomas> what is nwam for actually ? [03:16:03] <e^ipi> connecting to networks automatically [03:16:53] *** Berny has quit IRC [03:16:56] <coffman> sxce 97 is out... [03:17:03] <coffman> hi btw [03:20:00] *** crichardso has quit IRC [03:20:10] <lkthomas> anyone know how to deal with nwam ? [03:20:33] <lkthomas> e^ipi, I don't ask SXCE question, but is there have any solaris tools I could use to config interface ? [03:21:35] <e^ipi> with nwam? i have no idea [03:21:37] <e^ipi> possibly [03:21:48] <lkthomas> what if I disable nwam ? [03:22:11] <e^ipi> then it's a couple files [03:22:19] <lkthomas> "files" ? [03:22:24] <e^ipi> if you want dhcp, touch /etc/dhcp.e10000g0 [03:22:55] <e^ipi> if you don't add your hostname and IP to /etc/hosts and echo <hostname> >> /etc/hostname.e10000g0 [03:22:59] <e^ipi> then reboot [03:24:32] *** FrostCS has joined #opensolaris [03:24:35] <lkthomas> huh, what about subnetmask, gateway...etc ? [03:25:06] <e^ipi> now is about the time that i point you at the /topic [03:25:19] <e^ipi> the sysadmin guide tells you exactly how to do all that [03:25:28] <lkthomas> I see, hang on [03:30:46] <lkthomas> LOL [03:30:53] <lkthomas> e^ipi, after I use ifconfig -a plumb [03:31:03] <lkthomas> gnome network config panel could see the interface without crash [03:31:26] <lkthomas> so, is it means everytime it reboot, I need to type in ifconfig -a plumb ? [03:31:37] <e^ipi> no, it should do that on boot if it's set up correctly permanently [03:31:38] <lkthomas> any chance to skip this step ? [03:31:47] <e^ipi> yes, set up the card correctly [03:31:53] *** chendy has joined #opensolaris [03:32:10] <lkthomas> is that what you mention before ? [03:32:20] <e^ipi> yes [03:32:23] <e^ipi> also, /topic [03:32:59] <coffman> ;) [03:33:27] *** sah-work_ has joined #opensolaris [03:33:32] <coffman> rtfm [03:34:05] <lkthomas> sun docs is confusing [03:34:12] <lkthomas> I am reading oreilly guide [03:34:18] <e^ipi> sun has some of the best docs in the world. [03:35:18] <lkthomas> I am not getting used to the docs format yet [03:36:02] <coffman> lkthomas: you are confused because you are not used to read real documentation [03:36:11] <lkthomas> maybe :P [03:36:28] *** FrostCS has quit IRC [03:36:28] <e^ipi> linux relies heavily on so-called "tribal knowledge" [03:36:42] <e^ipi> you know things because you talked to the guy that wrote them [03:36:50] <coffman> http://www.genunix.org/wiki/index.php/HOWTOs_and_Guides might help you [03:36:58] <lkthomas> hehe [03:37:02] <lkthomas> http://solaris-x86.org/documents/guides/interfaces.mhtml [03:37:04] <e^ipi> solaris and for the most part the BSD's ( especially openbsd ) do not. everything is documented with excruciating detail [03:37:05] <lkthomas> this docs helps a lot [03:37:22] *** sah-work_ has quit IRC [03:37:23] <lkthomas> e^ipi, I read freebsd docs a lot [03:37:31] <lkthomas> but not getting used to solaris yet :P [03:37:38] * lkthomas still using bash on solaris, hehe [03:37:47] <coffman> http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/home/index.html is a nice place for best practise [03:39:28] <coffman> im doing slides for a zones talk that im going to hold this weekend... [03:40:46] <e^ipi> zones are awesome. [03:44:06] <kgoetz> e^ipi: they sound it - they are a large part of why i'm trying to get solaris running [03:44:26] *** yongsun has joined #opensolaris [03:45:28] <e^ipi> zones are so cheap a while ago i started just putting every service in it's own zone [03:45:47] <coffman> its hard too find slides about it... [03:46:41] * kgoetz smacks suns hardware support tool for telling him things would work when they dont [03:47:54] *** UNIXorDeath has joined #opensolaris [03:48:30] <e^ipi> what didn't work? [03:48:31] *** UNIXorDeath has quit IRC [03:48:41] <lkthomas> zones ? [03:48:43] <lkthomas> what is that ? [03:49:04] <lkthomas> is it similar concept with "jail" ? [03:49:26] *** fr4g has joined #opensolaris [03:49:27] <e^ipi> lkthomas: more segregated than jails [03:49:33] <e^ipi> not as heavy as virtual machines though [03:49:35] *** sah-work has quit IRC [03:49:40] <e^ipi> it's somewhere inbetween [03:50:53] <kgoetz> e^ipi: none of the 5 solaris cd/dvds i have here have installed+rebooted sucessfully. all the recent ones the installer fails to load properly, the oldest on (2008.01) is the only one which installs, but then cant boot up [03:51:05] <kgoetz> they all get part way through booting, then restart [03:51:21] <e^ipi> have you tried booting with the -kv options to see where it dies? [03:51:42] *** im_alone has left #opensolaris [03:51:43] <_mary_kate_> 2008.01? [03:51:47] *** jtmuzix has quit IRC [03:52:05] <kgoetz> yes, but it reboots, so i cant see anything particularly useful. depending on image i was getting from just after the installer started, through to it reaching a login: prompt [03:52:13] <kgoetz> s/particularly useful// [03:52:23] <_mary_kate_> there isn't a 2008.01... [03:52:23] <lkthomas> but zones just support native solaris [03:52:26] <e^ipi> no, -kv [03:52:28] <e^ipi> it won't reboot [03:52:30] <lkthomas> not with other os [03:52:31] <_mary_kate_> lkthomas: and Linux [03:52:34] <e^ipi> it will drop in to the kernel debugger [03:52:40] <lkthomas> _mary_kate_, is it ? hmm [03:52:43] <kgoetz> _mary_kate_: i think the number is 2008.01. [03:52:59] <kgoetz> e^ipi: well.... thats not happened. i'm happy to try again though. [03:52:59] <_mary_kate_> kgoetz: the only release with that naming scheme is 2008.05 [03:53:01] <lkthomas> _mary_kate_, any special config on linux side to support solaris host ? [03:53:46] <kgoetz> _mary_kate_: well, its the one e^ipi was trying to hep me with yesterday (SXDE perhaps its called?) [03:54:02] <e^ipi> lkthomas: branded zones don't have a kernel, they use a binary translation with the solaris kernel. the procudure involves dumping a tarball on to a filesystem and using that [03:54:04] *** sah-work has joined #opensolaris [03:54:27] <e^ipi> google://brandz for details [03:54:27] <lkthomas> hmm [03:54:31] <lkthomas> ok :) [03:54:47] <e^ipi> people use it for skype and stuff [03:55:49] <lkthomas> anyone try google chrome yet ? :) [03:56:12] <coffman> lkthomas: uhm, zones got brands, that can be brandz for linux, but also a brand for freebsd [03:56:23] <coffman> or a brand for solaris 8/9 [03:56:26] <kgoetz> lkthomas: no, but unless the EULA changes, i dont plan to [03:56:36] <lkthomas> kgoetz, what did the EULA said ? [03:56:53] <e^ipi> lkthomas: anything you send through the browser is property of google [03:56:58] <lkthomas> coffman, so it does not require to boot up guess OS kernel ? [03:57:02] <kgoetz> lkthomas: give me a few min, i have to go find the link now [03:57:06] <lkthomas> e^ipi, WTF ?! [03:57:10] <e^ipi> indeed. [03:57:16] <lkthomas> ...... [03:57:24] <coffman> good thing on chrome is, you can strip that bitch naked since its opensource [03:57:38] <lkthomas> google is using it to collect private browsing behavior [03:57:59] <lkthomas> sometime, free is not good [03:58:08] <lkthomas> I would rather pay Apple to use safari [03:58:15] <kgoetz> lkthomas: http://tapthehive.com/discuss/This_Post_Not_Made_In_Chrome_Google_s_EULA_Sucks [03:58:34] <_mary_kate_> why would you pay to use safari when you can use it for free? [03:58:39] <lkthomas> hey, one question, where could I find SXCE building change log ? [03:58:45] <coffman> lkthomas: brands are like translators [03:58:47] <lkthomas> _mary_kate_, I like happy :P [03:58:50] *** syamajala2 has joined #opensolaris [03:58:51] <lkthomas> Apply [03:58:53] <lkthomas> Apple* [03:58:54] <lkthomas> shit [03:58:59] <lkthomas> can't type [03:59:01] <kgoetz> looks like they fixed it :o already [03:59:16] <lkthomas> wahaha, kgoetz [03:59:25] <lkthomas> google start to cheat user [03:59:41] <kgoetz> lkthomas: this is the other link http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/web_services_browser/chrome_privacy_is_full_of_dents.html [03:59:58] <coffman> many people are working at cleaning up the code already [04:00:15] <lkthomas> hey, one question, where could I find SXCE building change log ? <- [04:00:47] <coffman> chrome has a lot of cool features and nice ideas [04:00:51] <coffman> lkthomas: http://dlc.sun.com/osol/on/downloads/b97/on-changelog-b97.html [04:00:52] *** Tekni has quit IRC [04:00:57] <e^ipi> lkthomas: google [04:01:05] <lkthomas> coffman, but isn't it is ON not SXCE ? [04:01:41] <kgoetz> hm. 2008.05 is loading, as far as the gui. it *didnt* do that yesterday [04:02:03] * kgoetz wonders if the laptop was getting to hot (then again, its not loaded yet!) [04:03:53] <kgoetz> aaand there it goes. [04:04:13] <kgoetz> actually got as far as loading Xorg and letting me open something this time [04:04:50] *** syamajala2 has quit IRC [04:06:06] <coffman> hmm [04:06:22] <coffman> b97 does not have that much new... [04:08:07] *** syamajala2 has joined #opensolaris [04:09:20] *** syamajala2_ has joined #opensolaris [04:09:28] *** syamajala2_ has quit IRC [04:10:17] <kgoetz> e^ipi: i ran with -kv and it rebooted. [04:10:23] * kgoetz wonders if this is a software problem. [04:11:13] <e^ipi> doesn't sound like it [04:11:36] <e^ipi> if the kernel encounters problems, it should panic and leave you at the debugger prompt [04:12:01] * kgoetz fires up a linux cd to see if the same thing happens [04:12:16] <e^ipi> sometimes it doesn't get that far, but from what you're describing it should be well beyond the point at which it's capable of dropping to kmdb [04:12:30] *** syndrome72 has joined #opensolaris [04:12:55] <lkthomas> if an SXCE is on production stage [04:13:06] <lkthomas> it does not require any upgrade, right ? [04:13:20] <e^ipi> require, no [04:13:25] <e^ipi> but you can always liveupgrade it [04:13:42] <lkthomas> heh [04:13:47] <lkthomas> risk taking ? :P [04:13:50] <_mary_kate_> upgrades are never required, it's not like the system will suddenly develop new bugs [04:14:02] <lkthomas> yeah, heeh [04:16:35] <kgoetz> i guess this isnt very helpful, but 'this system hasnt rebooted yet' (its also not thrashing the system fan like solaris was) [04:17:46] *** tomservo291 has joined #opensolaris [04:22:11] * kgoetz suspects solaris and his laptop dont agree. [04:22:42] *** stevel has joined #opensolaris [04:22:42] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stevel [04:22:45] *** syndrome71 has quit IRC [04:24:00] *** erast has quit IRC [04:24:05] <Atomdrache> That happens a lot. [04:24:48] <Atomdrache> I think it'll be a few years before Solaris gets good at adapting to/supporting miscellaneous PC and laptop peripherals. [04:25:40] *** syamajala2 has quit IRC [04:25:52] <coffman> thats fud [04:26:32] <kgoetz> i'm a bit :( that i cant even get some debug info. i had to disable legacy usb (1.1) to get as far as i am atm, but reboots are a bit tricky to debug on a live system:| [04:28:52] *** sriram has joined #opensolaris [04:30:05] *** Ma1 has joined #opensolaris [04:30:52] *** axisys has joined #opensolaris [04:32:04] *** anilg has quit IRC [04:35:01] *** ninjaslim has joined #opensolaris [04:35:45] *** stevel has quit IRC [04:37:57] *** sah-work_ has joined #opensolaris [04:39:12] <techqbert> hey guys. I just installed indiana on my intel d201gly2 mobo. osol is great but apparently my sfe-loaded NIC suffers from intermittent web access. IPS fails and pings often go dead. Any ideas? Where do I start? [04:40:48] *** syndrome72 has quit IRC [04:43:15] *** piwi has quit IRC [04:43:17] *** tomservo291 has left #opensolaris [04:43:21] *** sah-work_ has quit IRC [04:44:24] *** stevel has joined #opensolaris [04:44:24] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stevel [04:48:09] *** stevel has quit IRC [04:49:49] *** stevel has joined #opensolaris [04:49:49] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stevel [04:53:23] *** sah-work has quit IRC [05:01:49] * sstallion yawns [05:02:10] *** chendy has quit IRC [05:03:11] <codestr0m> anyone know if Sun/will opensource part/all of Sun Studio? [05:05:22] *** fr4g has quit IRC [05:05:35] *** fr4g has joined #opensolaris [05:06:03] <e^ipi> it is a mystery [05:06:20] *** anathematic has quit IRC [05:06:35] <codestr0m> Simon would know, but if it was going to go open source it probably would have happened by now [05:06:48] *** israr has joined #opensolaris [05:07:03] <e^ipi> why would you assume that? [05:07:17] <e^ipi> there's a /LOT/ of legal wrangling needed to open source things [05:07:35] <codestr0m> because he's the one leading the efforts of open sourcing apps? [05:07:37] <e^ipi> IIRC opensolaris was in the planning for 4 years before it happened [05:07:51] <e^ipi> no, i mean why would you assume it would have happened already? [05:07:59] <codestr0m> they do a cost/gain analysis if it makes sense to open source the app or not [05:08:10] *** yongsun has quit IRC [05:08:28] <codestr0m> this would have been an early target is what my assumption is based on [05:10:59] <Ma1> why open source Sunstudio? if so, what's the relationship with netbeans? [05:12:18] <e^ipi> netbeans is the IDE [05:12:22] <e^ipi> studio is the compiler suite [05:12:40] <e^ipi> codestr0m: i don't know that it would have been an early target [05:12:44] <e^ipi> it's not as sexy [05:14:04] <kgoetz> FWIW, i've just tried a debian install cd, and its doing the reboot thing as well - most worrying [05:15:41] <e^ipi> sounds like bad hardware [05:16:25] <kgoetz> e^ipi: it does, yeah. [05:17:00] <kgoetz> and replacing it will be an absolute PITA (especially as i'm already pretty cross with the people supplied it to me) [05:17:31] *** chendy has joined #opensolaris [05:17:48] *** axisys has quit IRC [05:19:07] <techqbert> how can I check the version of a driver installed on my machine? [05:20:48] * sstallion hrms. [05:23:52] *** LordIllpalazo has joined #opensolaris [05:26:18] *** Wil has quit IRC [05:39:52] *** stevel has quit IRC [05:46:22] <lkthomas> guys, I assume openldap isn't install on SXCE ? [05:51:07] <lkthomas> I forget which site could I use to install third party programs ? [05:51:50] *** Gnu_Raiz has quit IRC [05:52:19] *** TomJ has quit IRC [05:54:13] *** LordIllpalazo has quit IRC [05:54:32] <e^ipi> DSEE ? [05:54:45] <e^ipi> or opends [05:55:42] <lkthomas> blastwaves ? [05:55:49] *** x03 has quit IRC [05:56:12] <lkthomas> e^ipi, I got a question for you, is it possible to install solaris from hard disk rather than dvd ? [05:56:15] <lkthomas> dvd are so slow [05:57:28] *** jtmuzix has joined #opensolaris [05:57:36] <e^ipi> no idea [05:57:40] <e^ipi> why blastwave? why openldap? [05:57:43] <lkthomas> anyone else ? [05:57:45] <e^ipi> opends is hella easier [05:57:59] <e^ipi> you can install via an iso over NFS [05:58:14] <lkthomas> e^ipi, because I need samba as well [05:59:05] <lkthomas> we just taking advantage of ZFS, nothing else [05:59:35] <lkthomas> everything else we are running is on top of linux :P [06:00:08] <e^ipi> solaris has an in-kernel CIFS server [06:00:15] <lkthomas> it wouldn't work [06:00:19] <e^ipi> zfs set sharesmb=on mypool/myfs [06:00:26] <e^ipi> and linux can talk to opends just fine [06:00:27] <lkthomas> we are serving 5 department [06:00:35] <lkthomas> 50-60peoples [06:00:40] <lkthomas> all people require login [06:00:46] <e^ipi> why wouldn't opends work? [06:00:51] <e^ipi> why wouldn't solaris CIFS work? [06:00:52] <kgoetz> i think i've worked this out: *64 bit* operating systems, reboot and die. *32bit* work fine [06:01:13] <e^ipi> kgoetz: well that's silly [06:01:29] <kgoetz> e^ipi: it is. its a 'call the supplier' moment [06:01:38] <lkthomas> e^ipi, for opends, because we might need groupware to connect to LDAP server later on, which only support openldap [06:01:59] <lkthomas> e^ipi, for built-in cifs, I just can't setup individual account [06:02:13] *** alka has joined #opensolaris [06:02:30] <e^ipi> lkthomas: no, you use the LDAP server to do that [06:02:43] <lkthomas> do what ? [06:03:43] <e^ipi> auth [06:04:19] <lkthomas> the one concern part is to sync to another linux based LDAP server [06:05:17] <e^ipi> so? [06:05:30] <e^ipi> how's that got anything to do with CIFS vs hacking samba ? [06:05:54] <lkthomas> first [06:05:58] <lkthomas> I am not into solaris yet [06:06:17] <lkthomas> trying something that I don't understand well enough on production stage is a risk taking step [06:06:44] <lkthomas> I know Samba and connecting to ldap to auth [06:06:56] <lkthomas> I don't deny that opends is good [06:07:05] <lkthomas> BUT [06:07:09] <lkthomas> my timeline is in hurry [06:07:18] *** fr4g has quit IRC [06:07:20] <lkthomas> next week I have to get it on semi-production stage [06:07:28] <e^ipi> use sunfreeware [06:07:31] <e^ipi> i hate blastwave [06:07:40] <lkthomas> because of ? [06:08:08] <e^ipi> because i don't see why i need 4 copies of GTK to install vim [06:08:17] <e^ipi> and i like my machine to continue to run properly [06:08:19] <lkthomas> LOL, that's correct [06:10:06] <lkthomas> let me tell you the story [06:10:14] <lkthomas> we are using ldap on this storage server [06:10:25] <lkthomas> but later on, email server ldap will be in sync with our stoarge server [06:12:33] *** matpvb has joined #opensolaris [06:21:16] <lkthomas> actually [06:21:29] <lkthomas> does built-in cifs performance are better than samba ? [06:22:51] <e^ipi> i dunno, but it's worth at least considering [06:24:24] <lkthomas> you seems a fan of Sun and Java :P [06:24:27] *** israr has left #opensolaris [06:24:31] *** erast has joined #opensolaris [06:24:48] <e^ipi> i actually don't like java at all [06:24:57] <lkthomas> but opends is using java :P [06:25:12] <lkthomas> zimbra does not support opends as well [06:25:19] <e^ipi> and? [06:25:27] <e^ipi> ( re opends and java ) [06:25:44] <lkthomas> anyway [06:25:49] <lkthomas> I don't think I will consider to use opends [06:26:21] <lkthomas> but I am kind of get your meaning to run sharesmb with ldap server [06:26:28] <lkthomas> via pam [06:26:32] <lkthomas> am I correct [06:26:33] <lkthomas> ? [06:26:34] <e^ipi> yes [06:26:45] <lkthomas> right, that's another way around, haha [06:26:53] <lkthomas> BUT [06:27:14] <lkthomas> I think you do know I could ask Samba to do pre and post scripting when user login/logout, right ? [06:27:51] <lkthomas> http://www.edplese.com/samba-with-zfs.html [06:27:54] <lkthomas> check that out :) [06:28:25] *** sah-work has joined #opensolaris [06:29:09] *** sah-work has quit IRC [06:34:59] *** theRealBall has joined #opensolaris [06:35:16] *** alka_ has joined #opensolaris [06:42:14] *** matpvb has quit IRC [06:42:24] *** alka has quit IRC [06:46:18] *** insomnia has quit IRC [06:49:47] *** matpvb has joined #opensolaris [06:50:47] *** vmlemon has quit IRC [06:50:52] *** vmlemon has joined #opensolaris [06:53:19] *** xRaich[o]2x has left #opensolaris [06:59:21] *** alka_ has quit IRC [07:00:14] *** gm152 has quit IRC [07:00:15] *** rtor has joined #opensolaris [07:00:39] *** ninjaslim has quit IRC [07:05:22] *** alka has joined #opensolaris [07:05:50] *** ShadowHntr has joined #opensolaris [07:12:07] *** matpvb has quit IRC [07:12:25] *** matpvb has joined #opensolaris [07:15:23] *** pramz has quit IRC [07:25:35] *** thezerox has quit IRC [07:33:04] *** gerard13 has joined #opensolaris [07:33:24] *** jareq has joined #opensolaris [07:34:11] *** jtmuzix has quit IRC [07:46:59] *** hannesd has joined #opensolaris [07:49:52] *** cypromis has quit IRC [07:49:53] <lkthomas> e^ipi, you still there ? [07:50:45] *** matpvb has quit IRC [07:53:27] *** perlmongo has quit IRC [07:53:33] *** theRealBall has quit IRC [07:59:08] *** WickedWicky has joined #opensolaris [08:06:59] <lkthomas> guys [08:07:14] <lkthomas> how could I install additional software from installer DVD ? [08:07:22] <lkthomas> I only got core networking support installed [08:07:45] *** hannesd has quit IRC [08:11:54] *** tsoome has quit IRC [08:12:54] *** anilg has joined #opensolaris [08:17:16] *** Wil has joined #opensolaris [08:22:54] <e^ipi> lkthomas: always do full+oem [08:25:42] <lkthomas> haha, I already installed [08:25:49] <lkthomas> so how could I get additional installation ? [08:28:30] <palowoda> pkgadd, prodreg of coarse it's up to you to figure out what the package dependencies are. [08:28:42] <lkthomas> so no auto dep ? [08:28:52] <palowoda> Just do an upgrade with full oem. [08:29:50] <palowoda> If I remember right you can do an upgrade of the current with a current. 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[09:06:04] <lkthomas> AHA [09:06:05] <lkthomas> HHHAHAH [09:06:07] <lkthomas> so funny [09:06:08] *** mikl has joined #opensolaris [09:06:14] <lkthomas> every shell user is allow to su to root ? [09:06:16] *** FallenHitokiri has joined #opensolaris [09:06:31] <kgoetz> should that be |cat ? [09:07:10] <yoursdai> It should be the tar stream. [09:07:47] <tsoome> if it tells Unable to negotiate a key exchange method, it means you have ssh connection issue. [09:07:55] <tsoome> fix it, and then deal with tar [09:09:34] <kgoetz> tsoome: different people [09:09:39] <kgoetz> isnt it? [09:10:14] <tsoome> ah, damn [09:10:14] <tsoome> seems so, misread:D [09:10:43] <tsoome> ok, i need to get my coffee, thats for sure:D [09:11:18] <kgoetz> hehe [09:11:27] <yoursdai> :D [09:11:32] *** victori_ has quit IRC [09:12:12] <yoursdai> If you have two opensolaris ,could you please try the command for me? [09:12:43] * kgoetz doesnt [09:12:58] <yoursdai> OK [09:13:48] *** benr has quit IRC [09:17:06] <lukehasnoname> what the hell [09:17:51] <lukehasnoname> I stick the 2008.05 CD in, go to text console, and I have to log in?? I find out I have to use "jack" for both user and pass. So then it just throws me to console, no install process?? [09:18:42] <smtms> lukehasnoname, you sound somewhat surprised [09:19:37] <yoursdai> you should use root as user,and jack as passwd [09:19:39] <lukehasnoname> Did I not choose the right boot option? Does osol force you to use a graphical installer? [09:21:00] <trochej> lukehasnoname: OSOL 2008 doesn't have the text installer yet [09:21:06] <trochej> lukehasnoname: It's a work in progress. [09:21:07] <smtms> lukehasnoname, osol force you to read documentation [09:21:14] <trochej> smtms: That too. :) [09:21:21] <lukehasnoname> then it fails [09:21:22] <trochej> Release notes and installtion guide. :) [09:21:30] <smtms> lukehasnoname, go use Ubuntu. thanks [09:21:36] <trochej> lukehasnoname: Why? [09:21:45] <smtms> lukehasnoname, if you want to improve OpenSolaris, you are welcome though [09:22:06] *** Wil has quit IRC [09:22:08] <trochej> lukehasnoname: I suppose the installer team could use a hand in implementing the functionality. :) [09:22:12] <lukehasnoname> Don't be a smartass, smtms. Disagree with me if you care, but don't be obnoxious. [09:22:18] <lukehasnoname> I'll refrain from saying it fails [09:22:35] <trochej> It does, but for other reasons. :) [09:23:03] <lukehasnoname> but seriously, no installer? [09:23:17] <lukehasnoname> w/e. I'm not going to fight about it this late [09:23:23] <trochej> lukehasnoname: There is a graphical installer via LiveCD [09:23:34] <lukehasnoname> ehhh I don't have a mouse for my server [09:23:35] <trochej> libkeiser: Text installer is on its way.\ [09:23:40] <lukehasnoname> I know tabs are possible [09:23:48] <trochej> s/libkeiser/lukehasnoname/ [09:24:04] <trochej> lukehasnoname: I wouldn't use os2008 for server [09:24:04] *** cypromis has joined #opensolaris [09:25:38] <smtms> lukehasnoname, you can plug a USB mouse in [09:25:52] <trochej> lukehasnoname: For a server I'd stick with Solaris 10. [09:25:53] <lukehasnoname> true [09:26:03] <lukehasnoname> Does S10 have a text installer? [09:26:03] *** cypromis has left #opensolaris [09:26:04] <lukehasnoname> :) [09:26:11] <yoursdai> yes [09:26:13] <trochej> lukehasnoname: Since forever. :) [09:26:13] *** cypromis has joined #opensolaris [09:26:19] <lukehasnoname> The only reason I am interested at all in Solaris is ZFS [09:26:22] <trochej> cypromis: You got ADHD? [09:26:24] <lkthomas> guys [09:26:32] <cypromis> ADHD ? [09:26:32] <trochej> Gurls [09:26:33] <lkthomas> I can't find a guide about how to use sunfreeware.com [09:26:47] <cypromis> download [09:26:49] <cypromis> install package [09:26:50] <cypromis> use [09:27:10] <trochej> cypromis: You've left and joined the channel about three times in two minutes [09:27:14] <trochej> :) [09:27:20] <cypromis> oh that [09:27:25] <lkthomas> http://pkg.opensolaris.org/ <--- so I need to browse this site ? [09:27:29] *** dom__ has quit IRC [09:27:35] *** WIZ has joined #opensolaris [09:27:42] <trochej> lkthomas: It's not sunfreeware.com :) [09:27:43] <cypromis> came to the office, switched macbook on and than saw that coloquy made me channel blind [09:27:43] <cypromis> :) [09:27:50] <trochej> :) [09:27:54] <cypromis> as the domain states ... [09:29:42] *** Wil has joined #opensolaris [09:31:37] *** boyd_ has joined #opensolaris [09:35:30] *** sriram has left #opensolaris [09:36:20] <codestr0m> cypromis: ping [09:36:24] <asyd> \_o< [09:42:19] <lkthomas> I start to love pkg-get, haha [09:42:44] <lkthomas> I got a question, my kernel is running 64bit, does it matter for package at all ? [09:42:53] *** dunc has quit IRC [09:43:15] <tsoome> lkthomas: it depends a bit [09:43:21] <Stric> lkthomas: does it interact directly with the kernel? [09:43:50] <lkthomas> LOL, I think every program do interact with kernel :) [09:43:57] <lkthomas> especially with memory addressing area [09:44:53] <tsoome> if it depends directly on kernel data structures, it needs to be 64 bit - like top, lsof and so on [09:45:11] <lkthomas> HAHA [09:45:15] <lkthomas> so solaris also got top ?! [09:45:19] <lkthomas> hmm [09:45:19] <tsoome> +1 [09:45:21] <tsoome> ?! [09:45:30] <tsoome> WHAT A STUPID QUESTION [09:45:35] <tsoome> damn sry caps [09:45:39] <lkthomas> LOL [09:45:48] <lkthomas> well [09:45:52] <tsoome> ofc solaris got a top. years ago [09:46:04] <lkthomas> what package is that ? [09:46:11] <tsoome> except prstat is more funtional but thats another story [09:46:41] <tsoome> top is not packaged by sun if you mean that;) [09:46:49] <lkthomas> OH [09:46:52] <lkthomas> it is third party ? [09:46:59] <tsoome> ofc [09:47:07] <lkthomas> that's what I mean [09:47:08] <lkthomas> haha [09:47:12] <lkthomas> so it isn't SUNW* [09:47:18] <tsoome> well, as there is prstat, there is no need for top [09:47:37] <lkthomas> ok, I just installed openldap [09:47:52] <lkthomas> svcadm enable openldap [09:47:52] <lkthomas> svcadm: Pattern 'openldap' doesn't match any instances [09:47:55] <lkthomas> huh?! [09:47:56] <trochej> lkthomas: top is reported to print bad data at Solaris. prstat does it's job and is correct. [09:48:16] <lkthomas> trochej, I see, better use prstat then [09:48:32] *** boyd has quit IRC [09:48:45] <trochej> lkthomas: Yup [09:48:58] <lkthomas> trochej, what about openldap starting up question ? any idea ? [09:49:30] <trochej> lkthomas: Sun has its own ldap tools and ldap server. Much better than openldap in my opinion. [09:49:31] <lkthomas> HAHA, shit [09:49:42] <lkthomas> cswopenldap is the nae [09:49:43] <lkthomas> name* [09:49:44] *** twisti_work is now known as twisti [09:49:48] <lkthomas> as I mention before [09:49:53] <lkthomas> I do know about that [09:50:15] <lkthomas> but, most of the other tools is using openldap only [09:50:21] <lkthomas> I can't use it anyhow [09:50:23] <trochej> lkthomas: Oh, cws. You ought to mention that little bit. :) [09:50:46] <lkthomas> what's another command to list instances ? [09:51:32] <trochej> I don't understand the question. [09:51:55] <WickedWicky> instances of what? [09:52:01] <lkthomas> I mean, with svcadm, I can't know what's the actual name of the instances of daemon [09:52:21] <WickedWicky> ps -ef ? [09:52:41] <lkthomas> nono, I mean with svcadm [09:52:54] <lkthomas> how could you tell what is the program name to be enable ? [09:53:22] <WickedWicky> I dont follow you at all... [09:53:29] <lkthomas> ........ [09:53:35] <lkthomas> don't you use svcadm enable "program" ? [09:53:37] <trochej> lkthomas: svcs -a [09:53:39] <WickedWicky> the names shown by svcs -a are pretty clear and should give you a hunt of what to start [09:53:50] <lkthomas> OH, nice [09:53:52] <lkthomas> yeah, sorry [09:54:00] <lkthomas> poor english as I got 6hours of sleep only [09:54:12] <tsoome> :D [09:54:16] * lkthomas start to love solaris [09:57:17] <lkthomas> one interesting thing on solaris is that, how come there have one tty only on local console ? [09:57:32] <lkthomas> on linux, you could press control+f2 to get second tty [09:58:14] <cypromis> screen is your friend [09:59:02] *** |WIZ| has joined #opensolaris [09:59:05] <e^ipi> lkthomas: because vterms are primitive ? [09:59:23] <tsoome> or do like all normal ppl do - open several terminal windows...... [09:59:24] <WickedWicky> on linux you have only one console really and the rest re all vttys [09:59:31] <WickedWicky> if you wanna be technical [10:01:59] <WickedWicky> and in my experience, whenever i need the actual console it means big trouble and noone can do sh*t on that system anyway, so why have more than one terminal :P [10:08:02] *** Ma1 has quit IRC [10:08:18] <iMax> I found it useful sometimes if X was not working and I needed more than one shell [10:09:53] *** Ma1 has joined #opensolaris [10:11:30] *** victori_ has joined #opensolaris [10:12:22] <e^ipi> iMax: then you've never used screen before [10:12:51] <iMax> not back then, true :) [10:15:54] *** WIZ has quit IRC [10:15:54] <lkthomas> so, it is possible to use vttys [10:15:55] <dwc-> and that's one more thing to install locally everywhere [10:17:30] *** vk5foss has joined #opensolaris [10:17:52] <e^ipi> dwc-: it'll be integrated by build 99 [10:18:45] *** kgoetz has quit IRC [10:21:50] <lkthomas> solaris startup time is a bit slower compare with others [10:22:02] <lkthomas> but I am very sure ZFS performance will be great :) [10:23:04] *** vmlemon_ has joined #opensolaris [10:24:04] *** MattMan has joined #opensolaris [10:24:27] *** timsf has joined #opensolaris [10:25:46] *** tsoome has quit IRC [10:27:01] *** tsoome has joined #opensolaris [10:29:26] *** niq has joined #opensolaris [10:29:42] *** kgoetz has joined #opensolaris [10:29:48] <tsoome> what you mean with solaris startup time?;) [10:30:53] <lkthomas> hehe [10:31:01] <lkthomas> boot up period :P [10:31:09] <cypromis> your computer has a period ? [10:31:13] <lkthomas> ....... [10:31:23] <tsoome> the time you get login screen, the time you get specific service up, the time you get last service up? [10:31:45] <lkthomas> when it show "login" on console :) [10:32:32] <tsoome> you can "show" login rigth after kernel has loaded. it got nothing to do with startup time. [10:32:44] <lkthomas> hmm [10:35:14] <tsoome> also, take a look on your services list (svcs), disable most or enable most and you see some difference. altho, SMF will start quite many of them in parallel [10:35:30] <lkthomas> I see, hmm [10:36:19] <lkthomas> does solaris use apache ? [10:36:47] <tsoome> there is apache included, yes [10:36:56] <tsoome> both of them, even [10:38:08] *** anilg has quit IRC [10:38:21] <trochej> http://www.positiveatheism.org/crt/pin.htm [10:39:35] <tsoome> nice one:) i like it:D [10:39:50] <tsoome> loads of ppl will paic:D [10:39:54] <tsoome> panic* [10:40:42] *** trygvis has quit IRC [10:40:53] <lkthomas> guys [10:40:55] <lkthomas> what is coolstack ? [10:41:20] <trochej> lkthomas: A web app stack IIRC [10:41:26] <trochej> Mysql, php, apache, whatever [10:41:32] *** vk5foss has quit IRC [10:41:37] *** jimm3rs has joined #opensolaris [10:41:39] <lkthomas> I see, I could download them , right ? [10:41:43] <timsf> but compiled and optimised for opensolaris. [10:42:31] <lkthomas> how could I need to login to sun when I want to download coolstack ? [10:43:04] <tsoome> its included with os [10:43:14] <lkthomas> you mean the disc ? [10:43:23] <tsoome> meaning its already installed or at least on dvd [10:43:41] <lkthomas> hahaah [10:43:44] <lkthomas> CSKamp [10:43:45] <lkthomas> nice [10:43:48] <lkthomas> everything is included [10:46:04] <lkthomas> I pull off my cdrom already :) [10:46:09] <lkthomas> so, no CD is there [10:46:35] <lkthomas> I start to hate sun web site [10:46:48] <lkthomas> often require login and can't download via wget [10:47:29] *** jgracin has joined #opensolaris [10:49:36] *** trygvis has joined #opensolaris [10:52:51] *** erast has quit IRC [10:52:56] *** vmlemon_ has quit IRC [10:53:01] *** vmlemon_ has joined #opensolaris [10:55:21] *** alanc has joined #opensolaris [10:56:25] *** trygvis has quit IRC [10:58:02] *** alanc_ has joined #opensolaris [10:58:13] *** quasi has joined #opensolaris [10:59:06] *** quasi has quit IRC [10:59:44] *** quasi has joined #opensolaris [10:59:53] *** quasi has quit IRC [11:00:07] *** gobbler has joined #opensolaris [11:00:10] <codestr0m> cypromis: what do you think of a telephony-discuss ml... think anyone would be interested? [11:00:31] <cypromis> I was thinking if we can put that as a projectinto sw-porters [11:00:42] <cypromis> as in a project spefici to porting telephony software [11:04:30] *** |WIZ| has quit IRC [11:04:40] *** alanc has quit IRC [11:04:50] *** WIZ has joined #opensolaris [11:04:52] *** alanc_ is now known as alanc [11:05:21] <e^ipi> i have a couple dialogic cards for that purpose if you can make use of them [11:05:43] <e^ipi> they came as a free prize inside a POWER machine i bought a while back [11:06:23] *** bofur has joined #opensolaris [11:11:29] *** erast has joined #opensolaris [11:14:17] <sickness> morning all [11:19:11] *** niq has quit IRC [11:19:20] *** aksyn has joined #opensolaris [11:19:25] *** niq has joined #opensolaris [11:20:58] *** Dar has joined #opensolaris [11:23:34] *** axisys has joined #opensolaris [11:26:58] *** Odin- has joined #opensolaris [11:30:12] *** |WIZ| has joined #opensolaris [11:30:21] *** axisys_ has joined #opensolaris [11:31:00] *** Rarok has joined #opensolaris [11:32:35] *** cypromis has quit IRC [11:32:51] *** cypromis has joined #opensolaris [11:32:52] *** evocallaghan has joined #opensolaris [11:38:26] *** charlieS has quit IRC [11:38:29] *** charlieS has joined #opensolaris [11:40:00] *** lanc has quit IRC [11:42:57] *** JoergB has quit IRC [11:44:26] <jimm3rs> Is there a stable driver for Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection in latest build? 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[12:55:29] *** tomekw has joined #opensolaris [12:55:48] <tomekw> anyone managed to unlock gnome-keyring during login? [12:57:25] *** div8 has joined #opensolaris [12:57:34] <kjetilho> ::interrupts in mdb says "23 0x25 1 PCI Lvl Fixed 3 1 0x0/0x17 0" -- and "0" should be a driver name. hmm. [12:59:00] *** botox has quit IRC [13:02:16] <seanmcg> kjetilho, intrstat [13:03:39] <kjetilho> thanks. intrstat: invalid program: in action list: no symbolic type information is available for genunix`devnamesp: Decompression package SUNWzlib not installed [13:04:15] <kjetilho> this is a Nexenta appliance... [13:04:20] <seanmcg> ah [13:05:32] *** jimm3rs has quit IRC [13:08:54] <kjetilho> funny, this did the trick... ln -s /usr/lib/64/libz.so.1 /usr/lib/64/libz.so [13:08:56] *** anilg has joined #opensolaris [13:10:02] <kjetilho> it's useful, but it doesn't map IRQ 23 to the drivers [13:10:07] <seanmcg> that sounds like a bug in nexenta, not having that symlink already there. [13:10:46] <kjetilho> nah, sounds like a bug in the compilation to me -- the SONAME should be libz.so.1 [13:11:02] <kjetilho> but a bug in Nexenta in either case [13:11:13] <Gekz> Lol Nexenta [13:11:17] <Gekz> it are an error in itself is it not [13:17:08] *** pachinko_ has joined #opensolaris [13:20:20] *** gobbler has quit IRC [13:21:23] *** perlmongo has joined #opensolaris [13:24:23] *** calumb has joined #opensolaris [13:30:53] <seanmcg> kjetilho, that depends if libz was part of the install or not. Did you compile and install libz yourself ? 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[14:43:34] <trygvis> I would assume so, any reason why it shouldn't work? [14:43:38] *** vk5foss has joined #opensolaris [14:44:48] <Vanuatoo> I guess it should work. I just wanted to be sure that there is no N+1 rule [14:45:15] <trygvis> that rule is for the solaris version.. [14:46:48] *** Gekz has quit IRC [14:47:19] <seanmcg> SXCE 97 out yet ? [14:48:02] *** jimm3rs has joined #opensolaris [14:48:52] <Vanuatoo> I just clicked on the links and it gave me B97 download [14:49:35] <Vanuatoo> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads/sol_ex_dvd_1/ [14:49:44] <Vanuatoo> Solaris Express Community Edition DVD B97 - Single Image Download [14:50:27] <JWheeler> Does anyone know if solaris has getline? I'm getting undefined symbol errors trying to build gxine [14:50:44] <Gekz_> why are you trying to use solaris as a desktop os [14:51:01] <norman> why not? :) [14:51:10] <codestr0m> JWheeler: gxine is in the blastwave or SFE repo.. [14:51:16] <JWheeler> Because I happen to think for the most part, that it does a damn fine job [14:51:27] <JWheeler> both are way out of date though [14:51:32] <JWheeler> I'm trying to update our blastwave one [14:51:39] <Gekz_> I just think that there's other OSes that are more suited for desktop (ab)use [14:52:03] <codestr0m> Gekz_: such as? [14:52:13] <Gekz_> haha, how did i see that one coming. [14:52:19] <JWheeler> maybe, but I find that using an OS as my daily desktop is a great way to learn it in far more depth than you would as a server alone [14:52:23] *** Gekz_ is now known as Gekz [14:52:26] <codestr0m> yeah. well make a flippant comment and someone may bite [14:52:34] <Gekz> it's not flippant [14:52:38] <Gekz> Solaris is a server OS by design [14:52:49] <codestr0m> Gekz: there's another flippant comment! :) [14:52:51] <kjetilho> Gekz: huh, Solaris started as a workstation OS [14:52:56] <kjetilho> they got into servers much later [14:52:58] <codestr0m> stay on track. I'm trying to get one answer from you at a time [14:53:03] <Gekz> kjetilho: I was talking about now. [14:53:04] <Vanuatoo> There is no such a thing as server os by design [14:53:11] <JWheeler> er, and linux started as being targetted for servers mainly too [14:53:17] <codestr0m> Vanuatoo: is there such a thing as a crap OS by design? [14:53:25] <JWheeler> I fear we've lost site of my getline issue though... [14:53:31] <Vanuatoo> codestr0m, yeah it's called windows :D [14:53:31] * Gekz wins. [14:53:45] <kjetilho> Linux raison d'etre was originally to output A and B as fast as possible [14:54:48] <Vanuatoo> OpenSolaris really has a chance to become a good desktop OS, first for coroporate users and after that for home users [14:55:16] <norman> i want to try it as desktop os too. [14:55:37] <Vanuatoo> Unfortunately SUN does not have many resources to allocate for this task [14:56:00] *** calLNCH has quit IRC [14:56:37] *** gobbler has joined #opensolaris [14:56:37] *** kgoetz has quit IRC [14:57:09] *** vmlemon_ has quit IRC [14:57:32] *** vmlemon_ has joined #opensolaris [15:01:17] <jimm3rs> getline is a GNU extension [15:01:47] <JWheeler> yeah, I'm discovering that... I'm not quite sure what to do about it though [15:04:24] *** Rarok has quit IRC [15:04:31] *** Rarok has joined #opensolaris [15:11:46] *** WildWire has joined #opensolaris [15:17:59] <TomJ> I just replaced a drive on my Adaptec SAS controller with a larger one, but format still shows the drive as the previous size. I've done cfgadm -al and devfsadm -Cv , is there anything else I can try? the Adaptec cotroller itself sees the new volume size, it's just Solaris [15:18:31] <jimm3rs> JWheeler: see this http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-help/2005-01/msg00251.html [15:19:23] <jareq> [15:19:46] <JWheeler> yeah I hit that one. I guess I just have to file a bug? [15:19:52] <JWheeler> this code uses it [15:20:12] *** jareq has quit IRC [15:20:32] <JWheeler> What's interesting is that in the code for another project, I see that they found this was a problem on OSX too, and so they implemented their own getline in the code. I already tried pasting that in, but it blew up [15:23:40] *** Ali__ has joined #opensolaris [15:23:58] <jimm3rs> I guess that is the only option (custom implementation) [15:24:20] <Ali__> Hello [15:25:25] *** Ali__ has quit IRC [15:26:52] <luisbg_> Vanuatoo, I +1 you :) [15:27:11] <luisbg_> <Vanuatoo> OpenSolaris really has a chance to become a good desktop OS, first for coroporate users and after that for home users [15:27:15] <luisbg_> <Vanuatoo> Unfortunately SUN does not have many resources to allocate for this task [15:27:23] <luisbg_> thats why SUN is trying to build Community [15:29:10] <Vanuatoo> luisbg_, He's trying but it's also needs to be said that Sun does not do well [15:29:49] <luisbg_> the whole industry isnt doing as well [15:30:03] <Vanuatoo> luisbg_, That's true [15:30:40] <Vanuatoo> I'm pretty sure that Sun should invest money not only in building community but also deal with OEM-s to distribute hardware with OpenSolaris [15:30:59] <Vanuatoo> Make some killer apps work on OpenSolaris [15:31:04] <luisbg_> Yes [15:31:06] <luisbg_> I agree [15:31:09] <Vanuatoo> That's why linux did not succeed so far [15:31:40] <luisbg_> OpenSolaris en Asus EEE :P [15:31:44] <Vanuatoo> Linux is fragmented and of course it's a matter of choice and freedom but that really hinders linux to spread [15:32:00] <luisbg_> but it is harder for Sun to have OEM contracts because those Hardware companies are halfway competitors [15:32:27] <luisbg_> Vanuatoo, yes... I understand that [15:32:45] <luisbg_> having 1/10 of the community linux has, would make OpenSolaris grow much faster than Linux [15:32:59] <luisbg_> just because the linux community is too divided [15:33:05] <Vanuatoo> In that case sun should become first tier OEM [15:33:19] <luisbg_> Just watch how many distro developers are patching the kernel for it to work properly on their distro [15:33:31] <Vanuatoo> yes that is the problem with linux' [15:33:47] <Vanuatoo> When I was using it actively I've been on Gentoo [15:34:08] <Vanuatoo> I remember that everytime there was a new kernel I had to recompile every driver [15:34:21] <Vanuatoo> In solaris write once work for decades [15:34:52] <luisbg_> yes [15:34:57] <cmihai> No worries. Migrate to Indiana for that authentic Gentoo feeling. [15:35:14] <luisbg_> cmihai, LOL! [15:35:23] <Vanuatoo> :) [15:35:26] <luisbg_> nevada? [15:35:32] <luisbg_> nightly builds? [15:35:34] <Vanuatoo> no OpenSolaris 2008.05 [15:35:56] <luisbg_> I know [15:36:05] <luisbg_> I do have a virtual machine with Nevada [15:36:06] <Vanuatoo> OpenSolaris has key cards in its hands [15:36:06] <rorx> so what's the proper way to deal with upgrading software installed in /opt, delete it and install new version? [15:36:14] <luisbg_> since it is in development it breaks more [15:36:21] <cmihai> rorx: is it packaged? [15:36:39] <rorx> cmihai: don't think so, I'll check in a bit.. it's booting up. [15:36:41] <cmihai> grep "/opt/folder" /var/sadm/install/contents [15:36:59] <rorx> cmihai: specifically I want to update VirtualBox to the new 2.0 [15:37:01] <Vanuatoo> ZFS, DTrace, IPS, Stable ON. It just needs to add good Desktop on top of that and make everything work well on OEM hardware [15:37:05] <cmihai> /var/sadm/install/contents contains a list of all files and the packages that provide them. If it's packaged... [15:37:21] <cmihai> rorx: VirtualBox is probably a package on Solaris if you use PUEL [15:37:25] <luisbg_> Vanuatoo, do you imagine ZFS working with gnautilus? [15:37:36] <cmihai> pkginfo | grep box [15:37:38] *** surlyjake has joined #opensolaris [15:37:51] <rorx> cmihai: ok, I'll check [15:38:36] *** uebayasi has quit IRC [15:38:39] <cmihai> Godda love Loonix. [15:38:50] <cmihai> 1 version of vbox for windows. 1 version for solaris and opensolaris. 23 for Linux. [15:38:51] <cmihai> heh [15:38:59] *** uebayasi has joined #opensolaris [15:39:20] *** WildWire has left #opensolaris [15:39:50] <rorx> cmihai: yes, seems to be packaged.. SUNWvbox & SUNWvboxkern [15:39:57] <cmihai> Yup. [15:40:18] <cmihai> pkgrm ftw [15:40:22] <rorx> so I should remove those, then install the new package? [15:40:42] <cmihai> Sounds about right. [15:40:46] <Vanuatoo> Is there any step by step guide for doing LiveUpgrade? I could not find one on google [15:40:58] <cmihai> http://unixsadm.blogspot.com/2007/08/liveupgrade-sxce.html [15:41:13] <cmihai> It's a lot easier with zfs [15:41:25] <cmihai> http://unixsadm.blogspot.com/2008/06/solaris-zfs-to-zfs-liveupgrade.html [15:41:56] <Vanuatoo> cmihai, thanks :) [15:42:20] <cmihai> If you're using Indiana you should use pkg image-update [15:42:32] <Vanuatoo> no I [15:42:37] *** perlmongo has quit IRC [15:42:44] <Vanuatoo> I am using SXCE 95 and want to upgrade to SXCE 97 [15:42:47] <cmihai> Oh, and if you LU from UFS to ZFS it's also different :-) [15:42:50] <cmihai> What FS? [15:42:53] <Vanuatoo> ZFS [15:43:02] <cmihai> See the zfs-to-zfs one. [15:43:09] <cmihai> And read onnvflag days [15:43:15] <cmihai> http://opensolaris.org/os/community/on/flag-days/ [15:43:27] <Vanuatoo> SXCE did not want to format my disk as ZFS in GUI Session I had to go to Text Session [15:43:42] <cmihai> Of course :-) [15:43:46] <cmihai> Always use the text installer. [15:43:48] <Vanuatoo> cmihai, I read it everyday [15:43:48] <jbk> morning [15:44:08] <Vanuatoo> How does it relate to LU? [15:44:33] *** alanc has joined #opensolaris [15:45:33] <cmihai> You're upgrading to a new release [15:45:40] <cmihai> And may not be aware of issues, bugs and changes. [15:45:54] <cmihai> If onnv flag days says "LU is fucked in build 96"... [15:45:59] <cmihai> you might want to pay attention :-0 [15:46:07] *** surlyjake has left #opensolaris [15:46:30] <Vanuatoo> cmihai, I clearly remember to see some guide on blog from SXCE 94 to SXCE 95 and it mentioned that there is new parameter for ZFS in luupgrade command [15:46:38] <Vanuatoo> cmihai, :) [15:47:23] *** Rarok has quit IRC [15:47:24] *** Raroko-chan has joined #opensolaris [15:48:35] *** sstallion has quit IRC [15:48:45] <cmihai> Yeah, it's much much nicer with ZFS. lucreate -n is done in seconds now :-) [15:48:55] <cmihai> Whole thing is 3-4 times as fast as with UFS. 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[16:59:18] <charlie_lab> (for openSolaris :) [16:59:53] <tsoome> its still alive?:) [17:00:30] <cmihai> Sure [17:00:32] <seanmcg> gnu ada ? [17:00:33] <cmihai> You can use GNU [17:00:35] <cmihai> Yeah [17:00:57] <cmihai> GNAT works on Solaris [17:01:10] <cmihai> https://libre.adacore.com/ if you want commercial support. [17:01:23] <cmihai> They supply Solaris/SPARC support. [17:01:54] <charlie_lab> thanks guys [17:02:23] <charlie_lab> i'll check libre (should have done so 1dt ;) [17:04:10] <cmihai> charlie_lab: you can install gcc 4 with ada gnat support form blastwave too [17:04:13] <cmihai> www.blastwave.org [17:04:22] <charlie_lab> tsoome: :) [17:04:53] <cmihai> pkg-get install gcc4ada [17:04:54] <cmihai> :-) [17:05:53] *** houst0n- has joined #opensolaris [17:06:00] <charlie_lab> cmihai: heh ... i've only just opened the openSolaris main webpage, found this chatgroup ... not up to pkg-get yet ;) [17:06:48] <cmihai> It's kind of like a 3rd party package repository for Solaris, and the pkg-get tool is similar to apt-get. [17:06:53] <houst0n-> Guh, does anyone remember which pkg gpatch is in? [17:06:58] <cmihai> They also have a IPS pkg repository if that's your thing [17:07:08] <cmihai> houst0n-: grep gpatch /var/sadm/install/contents [17:07:32] <houst0n-> charlie_lab: there's lots of new software coming out of blastwave soon, we have latest gcc (4.3.2) latest samba (3.2.something) amongst many others [17:07:48] <houst0n-> new vlc and mplayer builds, which you may also like [17:07:49] <cmihai> It's SUNWgpch btw. [17:08:07] <houst0n-> cmihai: Ahh nice one cheers, it's installed on my sxce box just not s10 for some reason [17:08:15] <houst0n-> Must have gone with end user set during install by mistake [17:08:16] *** perlmongo has joined #opensolaris [17:08:17] <houst0n-> cheers =) [17:08:32] <charlie_lab> houst0n-: thanks, i'll ceertainly take a look [17:08:33] <Auralis_> houst0n-: thas the suns tudio buil dof mplayer? 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[19:54:36] <_setuid_H> airjump: Damn i tought that there is just x86 version [19:54:38] <airjump> hhhmmm i saw only the chassie [19:54:50] <airjump> sparc64 [19:55:17] *** erast has joined #opensolaris [19:55:22] <_setuid_H> damn [19:55:25] *** NyteOwl has joined #opensolaris [19:55:58] *** noyb has joined #opensolaris [19:56:10] *** kgoetz has joined #opensolaris [19:57:17] *** ahe has quit IRC [19:57:17] <NyteOwl> Qkona: I just booted my new OpenSolaris CD and it says "Root password for system maintenance mode (control-d to bypass)" but c-d just yields "Login Incorrect" [19:57:31] <NyteOwl> how do you start OpenSolaris? [19:57:44] <NyteOwl> er sorry bad tab complete theere :/ [20:00:26] *** airjump has quit IRC [20:00:51] *** MrBIOS_ has joined #OpenSolaris [20:01:17] *** capaz has joined #opensolaris [20:01:20] *** myosound has joined #opensolaris [20:02:16] *** srira2 has joined #opensolaris [20:03:40] *** srira2 has left #opensolaris [20:06:05] *** yippi has quit IRC [20:08:52] *** NyteOwl has left #opensolaris [20:09:00] *** vk5foss has quit IRC [20:09:18] *** div8 has quit IRC [20:09:32] *** Ditegen has joined #OpenSolaris [20:10:24] *** NyteOwl has joined #opensolaris [20:18:06] *** timsf has joined #opensolaris [20:19:46] *** bondolo has joined #opensolaris [20:21:36] *** jfisc has joined #opensolaris [20:21:38] *** master_o1_master has joined #opensolaris [20:22:24] *** ajmcello has joined #opensolaris [20:23:19] <ajmcello> im running sxce b96. i've noticed when i transfer large files (a couple of gigabytes) that the network interface stops responding. if i reboot the machine it comes back. any ideas what might be going on? it is on a gigabit switch and i can get it do fail within a minute or two of a large of ftp at around 50-100MB/s [20:23:57] <seanmcg> what type of nic ? [20:24:17] <seanmcg> say its an e1000g, then run kstat -m e1000g and have a look for errors or the like. [20:24:23] <seanmcg> dmesg may show some info too. [20:24:33] <ajmcello> ok [20:24:36] <ajmcello> it is an e1000g [20:26:22] <NyteOwl> When I try to start the openSOlaris CD I get the following after the boot messages: "Preparing live image for use / Requesting System Maintenance Mode / (See /lib/svc/share/README for more information.) / Console login services(s) cannot run / Root Password for system maintenance (control-d to bypass):" [20:26:27] <NyteOwl> ANyone any ideas? [20:28:13] <ajmcello> there are no errors seanmcg [20:28:58] <ajmcello> tried ifconfig e1000g0 down and back up but it didnt bring it back, so im rebooting [20:30:00] *** teo[sxce]__ has quit IRC [20:30:11] <codestr0m> anyone tried to get the (/boot/solaris/bin/root_archive pack solaris.img) down to the absolute smallest possible? if I can get it under 80MB I'll be happy [20:33:43] *** master_of_master has quit IRC [20:34:05] *** _teo_ has joined #opensolaris [20:34:07] *** communicator has joined #opensolaris [20:36:46] *** yippi has joined #opensolaris [20:36:59] *** sommerfeld has joined #opensolaris [20:36:59] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o sommerfeld [20:38:15] <timsf> NyteOwl enter your root password and have a look in the logs in /etc/svc/volatile/log [20:38:32] <timsf> I suspect it wasn't able to mount the cd correctly [20:39:41] *** hannesd has joined #opensolaris [20:40:47] <codestr0m> is it possible to somehow launch the text-mode Solaris installer from inside the average linux livecd [20:41:12] <codestr0m> I mean. is there a download or executable which can be used. I assume not since that would require zfs write support [20:41:33] <codestr0m> and obviously isn't in the linux kernel as of yet [20:41:48] *** vk5foss has joined #opensolaris [20:41:57] <timsf> uh no. [20:42:35] <codestr0m> maybe a livecd that's able to load an opensolaris image and then install from that.. [20:42:40] <timsf> the milax opensolaris distribution is pretty small. [20:42:41] *** pjfloyd has joined #opensolaris [20:43:15] *** Erwann has quit IRC [20:43:49] <codestr0m> timsf: thanks [20:44:26] *** spiki has joined #opensolaris [20:45:04] *** logic has joined #opensolaris [20:45:28] <NyteOwl> timsf: what root password? It's the free OpenSolaris CD that I got from Sun? I just booted it. [20:45:38] <codestr0m> I've limited access remotely.. a single disk and a linux environment and looking to replace the OS with opensolaris [20:45:45] <timsf> opensolaris [20:48:14] *** Odin- has joined #opensolaris [20:49:11] *** h3sp4wn has quit IRC [20:49:52] <pjfloyd> any ops here? isn't the topic out of date (SXCE is at 97) [20:51:59] *** ninjaslim has quit IRC [20:52:00] <codestr0m> timsf: MilaX 0.3.1 LiveCD (126,7 ?b): I'm not sure if this is Indiana (IPS) based though.. I'll read more of the docs, but based on initial reading I think this could be a good start.. [20:52:01] *** Odin- has quit IRC [20:52:01] <codestr0m> I'm thinking worst case.. most linux distributions have a separate partition for grub that's around 100MB.. grub and images take up about 12MB.. if I can get the solaris bootable image down that small... boot the image and have it run entirely off of ram... I'll have a single shot to use the whole disk to install opensolaris.. [20:53:36] *** codestr0m has quit IRC [20:55:40] <NyteOwl> use lilo instead of grub maybe? it's much smaller. 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[22:56:40] <ajmcello> i used the dvd [22:57:11] <lukehasnoname> My server is CDrom [22:58:14] <seanmcg> lukehasnoname, you can use the first cd and then point it to a nfs for the rest. [22:58:46] *** h3sp4wn has joined #opensolaris [22:58:57] <seanmcg> on the nfs server you can user setup_install_server from the first cd, and then add_to_install_server from the rest of the cd's. [22:59:08] <seanmcg> assuming the nfs server is running solaris. [22:59:15] <lukehasnoname> ... [22:59:42] <seanmcg> setup_install_server etc, will pull the data from the cd onto the nfsserver [22:59:49] <MeP3aBeu> guys plz help how to solve this problem http://pastebin.com/m4c0a2752 [22:59:56] <MeP3aBeu> can't compile wine 1.0 [23:00:48] *** yippi_ has joined #opensolaris [23:02:11] *** alyu has joined #opensolaris [23:03:54] *** zenbalrog has joined #opensolaris [23:04:54] <MeP3aBeu> full log http://pastebin.com/m58c56cb5 [23:07:36] *** zenbalrog has quit IRC [23:09:25] <Pietro_S_> MeP3aBeu: take look to SFE repository there is working spec file - it contains some patches which allows compilation [23:12:11] *** alyu_ has quit IRC [23:12:17] <MeP3aBeu> SFE?! what is it? 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