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[00:04:51] <YC> Anyone having trouble connecting to the package server ucrrently?
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[00:49:50] <anthrax> hi guys. i logged in as a solaris user
[00:50:15] <YC> Nice!
[00:51:07] <anthrax> installed with default settings in Virtual box. it works fine
[00:51:41] <YC> See, i'm trying to do the opposite, and install virtualbox in solaris. :)
[00:52:41] <e^ipi> i prefer zones myself
[00:52:51] <e^ipi> failing that, another machine
[00:54:14] <e^ipi> computrons are cheap, you can literally pull workable machines out of the trash
[00:54:29] <YC> I have no idea what zones are.
[00:54:39] <YC> But virtualisation is quite excellent, at least in the x86 space.
[00:54:51] <e^ipi> YC: somewhere between chroot jails and real virtualization
[00:54:55] <YC> I am, however, failing quite badly to connect ot the package server.
[00:55:07] <e^ipi> yeah, vbox networking is quite broken
[00:55:09] <YC> Ah. I'm running a windows XP VM. :)
[00:55:24] <YC> No, this is just from a stock opensolaris install. No virtualisation at all yet.
[00:56:04] <jbk> are you using nat for the network type?
[00:56:05] <e^ipi> eh, unless you're hawking virtual servers i don't really see the point of virtualization
[00:56:31] <YC> Well, I run ESX at work.
[00:56:56] <anthrax> how about for studying purpose?
[00:57:29] <anthrax> :)
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[00:57:38] <e^ipi> anthrax: what about it? you can't really learn the ins and outs of an OS unless you just plunge in to it
[00:57:49] <e^ipi> i found VM's particularly terrible for learning
[00:57:52] <YC> Yes... but how does virtualisation affect that?
[00:58:01] <YC> Since, it's just emulating the metal.
[00:58:45] <e^ipi> maybe my learning style is just different, but i never learned a thing until i turned it in to my primary operating environment
[00:59:01] <e^ipi> because then you get all sorts of things like "damn, i want to watch youtubes... how do i go about doing that"
[00:59:41] <e^ipi> not just "this tutorial says to type these commands and things happen, hooray i ran something in dtracetoolkit... now i know dtrace i guess"
[01:01:06] <bda> e^ipi: I use VMs primarily for testing or install servers.
[01:01:11] <bda> The latter especially is really useful.
[01:01:24] <bda> Boot up SXCE in Parallels on my laptop, Jumpstart some boxes at a site.
[01:01:37] <bda> Ditto FAI for the Linux systems.
[01:01:46] <bda> Install networks at each site would be nice, but. :)
[01:02:00] <YC> WHy would you watch youtube on a missino-critical server?
[01:02:14] * bda only learns anything by breaking stuff.
[01:02:18] <YC> Me also. :)
[01:02:28] <anthrax> YC: i think he gave an example
[01:02:29] <e^ipi> YC: or over SSGD on andre's server
[01:02:29] <YC> And I can break something in a VM just as well as I can on hardware.
[01:02:29] <e^ipi> heh
[01:03:12] <YC> But, anyway, I'm trying to update from build 93 of dev edition, using pkg image-update. Getting timeouts. Any thoughts?
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[01:26:28] <TomJ> YC: maybe your critical mission is to watch videos al lday
[01:28:01] <YC> Hrm. Valid.
[01:28:20] <YC> Incidentally, if you know of any jobs going in that area, let me know, and i'll flick you a CV. :)
[01:28:35] <TomJ> security guard?
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[01:28:52] <TomJ> get a job as the eye in the sky in a casino
[01:29:53] <YC> Hrm.
[01:30:08] <YC> No decent casinos in NZ.
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[03:08:25] <rand7> hi, does anyone know how I can burn a DVD iso on opensolaris?
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[03:09:27] <h3sp4wn> rand7: cdrecord
[03:10:54] <rand7> h3sp4wn: can it also burn DVDs?
[03:13:56] <rand7> nevemind, looks like it works
[03:13:56] <rand7> thnx
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[06:01:37] <riri> Is there a way to install opensolaris from another os?
[06:02:11] <purserj> as in boot up one os, stick in the disk and then try to install it that way?
[06:02:27] <riri> yes
[06:02:54] <riri> so I can put it on an extended partition
[06:03:28] <jdrake> Is there a relatively small download (i.e. not an entire dvd) that would allow me to determine hardware support for my laptop?
[06:03:46] <YC> Just grab the opensolaris CD.
[06:03:52] <YC> It has a device driver check.
[06:04:47] <jdrake> perfect
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[06:05:11] <jdrake> Does opensolaris in general support things such as suspend to ram?
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[06:06:46] <riri> right now im thinking of putting another HDD in my laptop, installing OS then copying across all
[06:06:57] <riri> the files and fixing grub on the real HDD
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[06:11:28] <bimbo> hello, is there any sip softphone for solaris that anyone might recommend?
[06:14:29] <bda> Ekiga?
[06:14:31] * bda guessing.
[06:15:08] <bimbo> yeah, just found out opensolaris ships with it
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[08:26:01] <sickness> hi jmcp
[08:26:34] <jmcp> hi sickness
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[08:47:56] <physrules> hey guys, the "reset your password" on opensolaris.org doesn't work (it simply doesn't send the email with the link), is there any other way to recover my login, or maybe someone I could contact ?
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[08:49:15] <physrules> it just says "An email has been sent to the account owner, providing a link that allows the account password to be changed."
[08:49:19] <e^ipi> physrules: help at opensolaris dot org
[08:49:36] <e^ipi> someone on the other end of that'll work it out
[08:49:37] <e^ipi> i guess
[08:49:39] <e^ipi> *shrug*
[08:50:17] <physrules> heh, thanks -1, will try that :)
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[10:10:11] <codestr0m> cypromis: you know what would be a killer feature.. just like you can dedicate an iface to a zone.. what if you could do the same thing for say a voice e1
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[10:20:51] <_setuid_H> Hi I have a little problem with pkg.depodt
[10:20:57] <_setuid_H> it throws me this line
[10:20:58] <_setuid_H> pkg.depotd: unable to bind to the specified port: 9000. Reason: Cannot assign requested address
[10:21:13] <_setuid_H> May it be caused by running sys-unconfig ?
[10:22:20] <_setuid_H> Runnig system is os2008.11
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[10:47:37] <codestr0m> _setuid_H: 2008.11?
[10:53:35] <bda> The development version of OpenSolaris.
[10:53:44] <bda> Which will become stable as 2008.11.
[10:54:02] <bda> (e.g., 2008.05 upgraded to b95 via pkg)
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[11:17:54] <_setuid_H> codestr0m: 2008.11 that's right
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[11:34:46] <timsf> morning
[11:35:03] <seanmcg> morning timsf
[11:36:10] <trochej> Coffee
[11:38:20] <e^ipi> howdy
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[12:10:01] <codestr0m> wait.. so when you download 200805.. update... effectively now you're running 2008.11.. which hasn't come out yet.. I guess I'm running 2008.11 as well.. it makes sense in a way because I assume there's no new branch, but...
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[12:22:31] <gausus> w
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[12:41:48] <major_kusanagi> re
[12:42:04] <major_kusanagi> bon j'ai activer les lba, il etait en auto
[12:42:06] <major_kusanagi> mais ca change rien
[12:42:17] <Gekz> Oi
[12:42:17] <major_kusanagi> j'ai meme refait un format -M avant de lancer le prog d'install
[12:42:24] <Gekz> Vous!
[12:42:34] 
[12:43:00] <major_kusanagi> sorry i want jointe opensolaris-fr
[12:43:22] <Gekz> Do it then
[12:43:22] <Gekz> :)
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[13:05:34] <major_kusanagi> i try to install opensolaris on my x86 but the installation programme cna-t detect my hard disque, i try to format -M, i try to activate lba, my bios configured to auto, but install continu ti freeze, i need to hard reboot my compter after evry try
[13:06:46] <major_kusanagi> any else have an idear ?
[13:07:24] <major_kusanagi> i question on #opensolaris-fr, but they nothing
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[13:10:04] <major_kusanagi> i think may be that my geometry, i modify this for a probleme with another os
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[13:13:41] <TomJ> what disk controller do you have?
[13:15:46] <major_kusanagi> a via controller
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[13:23:20] <major_kusanagi> i got trough more info about my controller, i try with dmesg
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[13:27:02] <cmihai> More likely with /usr/sbin/prtdiag -v
[13:27:10] <cmihai> Or /usr/sbin/prtconf
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[13:45:24] <major_kusanagi> this is that i thougth about my hd : http://pastebin.ca/1191425
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[16:44:59] <ajmcello> does the SXCE edition support a root ZFS file system? i noticed after installing s95 that the system drive is UFS
[16:45:12] <ballChalk> you have to use text installation and choose it
[16:46:25] <ajmcello> ahh
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[16:50:01] <sstallion> Gman: around?
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[16:53:25] <evocallaghan> http://rafb.net/p/bmqWuQ86.html anyone could help me with gtkam Seg Faulting
[16:54:06] <evocallaghan> http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=3171 I did a report as well..
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[16:57:52] <_teo_> hello
[16:58:14] <evocallaghan> hey
[16:58:41] <_teo_> I'm trying to install sxce b96 on an intel core2, p45 chipset and nvidia 6800. when booting the livecd I get to configuring dev and then the system hangs
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[16:59:01] <_teo_> I tried setting acpi-user-options=0x8
[16:59:04] <_teo_> still hangs
[16:59:07] <ballChalk> boot with -kv on the kernel line.
[16:59:27] <_teo_> with 0x2 it complains about some WART chip
[16:59:33] <_teo_> ballChalk: will try, thanks
[16:59:40] <evocallaghan> hope this could be helpful as well http://blogs.sun.com/danasblog/entry/configuring_solaris_acpi_at_boot
[17:00:25] <_teo_> evocallaghan: yup, that's what I tried. with 0x8 and 0x4 it hangs and with 0x2 it complains about the WART chip and then hangs
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[17:02:56] <evocallaghan> _teo_:Hmm, start with -kv and whats the last few lines
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[17:05:11] <_teo_> ok so
[17:05:38] <_teo_> ata_set_feature: (numbers) failed
[17:05:56] <_teo_> ata4 is (pci ids) UltraDMA mode 2 selected
[17:06:08] <_teo_> then again ata_set_feature failed
[17:06:27] <_teo_> USB 1.10 devide operating at low speed and it recognizes my logitech trackball
[17:06:47] <_teo_> then sd0 at ata4: target 0 lun 0
[17:07:07] <TomJ> Guys is there any way to open a terminal in the Solaris text based installer?
[17:07:25] <_teo_> sd0 is /pci@0,0/pci8086,244e@1e/pci-ide@7/ide@0/sd@0,0
[17:07:29] <_teo_> and it hangs there
[17:08:30] <_teo_> one more thing, I have a x86_64 processor but right at the beginning the kernel said SunOS 5.11 svn_96 32-bit, is that ok?
[17:08:40] <TomJ> _teo_: yes, installer is always 32bit
[17:08:57] <TomJ> it will default to the 64bit kernel on reboot
[17:09:00] <_teo_> ok
[17:09:35] <_teo_> so any clues about the pci mumbo jumbo? if it helps, the sata controller is in legacy mode in the bios
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[17:10:44] <evocallaghan> _teo_:Can you set the BIOS back to defaults and make sure its updated to the latest version
[17:11:07] <_teo_> evocallaghan: ok, will flash the bios and reset it and let you know
[17:11:10] <_teo_> evocallaghan: thanks
[17:11:38] <evocallaghan> _teo_:np
[17:12:05] <evocallaghan> _teo_:Keep me informed as I am lost atm on want I am meant to be doing :p
[17:15:26] <_teo_> evocallaghan: yup, I'm 4 bios revisions behind
[17:15:51] <evocallaghan> _teo_:Ah yes, silly x86 crap :/
[17:16:27] <evocallaghan> _teo_:I had a problem with a HP laptop a few hours ago, had to pass 0x8 to get it to boot, flashed the BIOS too.
[17:16:35] <TomJ> evocallaghan: you're meant to be working out if there's a way to open a terminal in a Solaris (or SXCE) text installer
[17:17:04] <evocallaghan>  TomJ:I am ?
[17:17:10] <TomJ> sure :)
[17:17:15] <TomJ> that'd be nice anyway
[17:17:37] <evocallaghan> right click on the CDE desktop I think ?
[17:17:43] <TomJ> nah text installer
[17:17:46] <evocallaghan> oh
[17:17:49] <seanmcg> TomJ if you're on the console with the text installer, then you'd have to exit out of the installer.  Theres no alt-FX 'virtual-consoles' yet.
[17:17:51] <evocallaghan> sorry missed that
[17:18:00] <TomJ> yeah i fear there's no way
[17:18:07] <evocallaghan> What about ^D
[17:18:09] <evocallaghan> Then bg
[17:18:22] <TomJ> ^Z you mean? that's worth a go, thanks
[17:18:34] <evocallaghan> Coffee ?
[17:18:51] <TomJ> tea for me please
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[17:45:12] <_teo_> evocallaghan: flashed bios, the issue remains
[17:45:47] <_teo_> evocallaghan: should I try acpi-user-options=0x8 with -kv
[17:45:48] <_teo_> ?
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[17:55:21] <los|s> hi
[17:55:41] <los|s> for desktop use, should i use solaris or opensolaris?
[17:56:47] <sstallion> los|s: it depends on what you are comfortable with
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[17:57:16] <los|s> hmm, what do you mean?
[17:57:34] <sstallion> well, look at the two projects and figure which you would like to use; if you don't know, try both
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[18:03:49] <bda> los|s: Probably OpenSolaris.
[18:03:57] <bda> It has less administrative overhead.
[18:04:05] <bda> (as long as you following instructions when doing the first update)
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[18:04:20] <_teo_> sxce is more fun though ^^
[18:04:20] <los|s> so it's more for desktop use?
[18:04:26] <bda> Yes.
[18:05:19] <los|s> but it's also stable ?
[18:05:33] <los|s> not a testing OS ?
[18:05:43] <los|s> it's a final released stable OS?
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[18:08:55] <oxygene> uh, only a dead OS had its final release
[18:09:23] <_mary_kate_> los|s: neither SXCE nor Opensolaris are released versions, they're development releases
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[18:10:25] <_teo_> los|s: but both can work great, depending on your hardware and your requirements
[18:10:32] <_teo_> los|s: ymmv
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[18:16:17] <evocallaghan> _teo_:Ping?
[18:16:24] <_teo_> evocallaghan: pong
[18:16:32] <_teo_> evocallaghan: flashed, no change
[18:16:35] <evocallaghan> Ah yes, very good
[18:16:49] <evocallaghan> ok, whats the deal with booting with -kv
[18:16:58] <_teo_> evocallaghan: same as before
[18:17:01] <evocallaghan> where does it hang at now ?
[18:17:02] <evocallaghan> ok
[18:17:21] <evocallaghan> Do you have some options in your BIOS to disable USB and enable SATA ?
[18:17:38] <evocallaghan> USB sometimes creates problems
[18:17:40] <_teo_> evocallaghan: sata is enabled, legacy mode
[18:17:53] <evocallaghan> Can you change that to native ?
[18:17:54] <_teo_> evocallaghan: will try to disable usb
[18:18:28] <evocallaghan> Do you have a option for PnP OS = Y/N ?
[18:18:36] <_teo_> evocallaghan: I can change to sata ahci. however linux doesn't like sata ahci mode
[18:18:39] <evocallaghan> and any ACPI options ?
[18:18:41] <_teo_> evocallaghan: i think so, yes
[18:18:55] <evocallaghan> Make PnP OS = No
[18:19:08] <_teo_> evocallaghan: it's a gigabyte ep45-ds4, advertised as a green mobo with lots of acpi options
[18:19:08] <evocallaghan> Turn stat ahci mode on
[18:19:36] <evocallaghan> _teo_:eeewww, I hate Gigabyte now !
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[18:19:39] <evocallaghan> I got one here
[18:19:44] <evocallaghan> Nothing but problems
[18:19:52] <_teo_> evocallaghan: I'm kinda having lunch now :-/ I'll try in 15 mins
[18:20:09] <evocallaghan> _teo_:I'm going to bed soon
[18:20:10] <evocallaghan> np
[18:21:27] <evocallaghan> _teo_:Please *do* report your hardware config and the ACPI workaround and any BIOS options that change the way the system hangs or whatever to http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/ Thanks.
[18:21:48] <_teo_> evocallaghan: ok
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[18:29:16] <codestr0m> cypromis: he said he can maybe clean up the wanpipe driver, but later will maybe ask the boss if he can allocate time to it
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[18:32:09] <xRaich[o]2x> codestr0m: thanks for the link yesterday
[18:32:27] <codestr0m> xRaich[o]2x: no problem. I did a blog entry on it.. how to fix all of it
[18:32:51] <codestr0m> ctrl+ arrrows to forward/backword words.. end.. home.. delete.. etc
[18:33:26] <xRaich[o]2x> codestr0m:  i tried tcsh yesterday. nice shell but the syntax is awful. the completion is great
[18:35:54] <codestr0m> xRaich[o]2x: I haven' looked at the syntax yet.. and is it better than bash completion in general?
[18:37:09] <xRaich[o]2x> i didn't look into bash completion that much. but i really miss for loops and the $() and some other stuff in tcsh
[18:38:10] <xRaich[o]2x> and it's a lot easier than zsh. i actually programmed completion for a lot solaris commands
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[18:39:15] <xRaich[o]2x> including pkg. it even completes remote and local packages :)
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[18:42:05] <codestr0m> xRaich[o]2x: spiffy, but for zsh it was slow? mind sharing any of your tcsh work?
[18:42:50] <xRaich[o]2x> if don't think zsh is that slow but new style completion feels like rocketscience to me
[18:43:05] <xRaich[o]2x> s/if/i
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[18:44:50] <codestr0m> xRaich[o]2x: well. if you feel like sharing either one.. maybe toss it up as a google code project
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[18:45:09] <codestr0m> then if there's anyone else around that can/wants to contribute that would be nice
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[18:46:12] <xRaich[o]2x> codestr0m: wait a sec
[18:46:23] <gausus> hi
[18:46:37] <xRaich[o]2x> codestr0m: http://pastebin.com/m1d592a24
[18:46:49] <gausus> i need to instal snv on a intel core duo laptop
[18:47:05] <gausus> the question is - which one has better acpi support - sxce or 2008.05?
[18:47:16] <e^ipi> gausus: they are the same kernel
[18:47:22] <e^ipi> gausus: there is no difference
[18:47:29] <gausus> so no acpi support at all?
[18:47:40] <xRaich[o]2x> codestr0m: beware there are some messed up line breaks
[18:47:41] <e^ipi> where did i say that?
[18:47:47] <codestr0m> xRaich[o]2x: bindkey -k down history-search-forward
[18:47:57] <codestr0m> xRaich[o]2x: you don't tie that to ^r
[18:47:57] <e^ipi> i said that there's no difference
[18:48:02] <gausus> e^ipi: ok
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[18:48:29] <xRaich[o]2x> codestr0m: i know. i have weird keybindings :P
[18:48:42] <gausus> e^ipi: hmm, i have a problem with 2008.05. i have run pkg refresh && pkg image-update
[18:48:59] <gausus> it all went fine, still when i want to boot the new BE i get
[18:49:11] <e^ipi> yeah yeah
[18:49:17] <gausus> NOTICE: spa_import_rootpool: error 22
[18:49:20] <e^ipi> you didn't pay attention to the update instructions
[18:49:26] <gausus> cannot mount root path
[18:49:39] <e^ipi> yeah. because you didn't pay attention.
[18:49:42] <gausus> e^ipi: where can I find them? so I can pay proper attention to them :)
[18:49:44] <codestr0m> xRaich[o]2x: I'll take a more close look at this, but thanks
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[18:50:51] <e^ipi> gausus: http://gibbs.acu.edu/2008/07/19/opensolaris-upgrade-instructions/
[18:51:18] <e^ipi> there was a bug in the version of IPS on the CD
[18:51:24] <xRaich[o]2x> codestr0m: there might be more elegant ways to solve stuff but this was a quick hack at night :)
[18:52:37] <gausus> thx
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[18:53:41] <codestr0m> xRaich[o]2x: mind if I modify it a bit and blog about it?
[18:53:57] <xRaich[o]2x> no problem
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[18:54:32] <xRaich[o]2x> but would be nice if you link my blog, even it's in german ^^
[18:55:20] <codestr0m> xRaich[o]2x: of course. what's the link
[18:55:27] <xRaich[o]2x> raichoo.blogspot.com
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[18:59:29] <xRaich[o]2x> the zfs and zpool stuff was actually inspired by someone else but i made the set and get more effective because it keeps track of zfs filesystem options
[19:00:50] <gausus> e^ipi: thx :D
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[19:05:00] <_teo_> evocallaghan: I messed around with sata and still no improvement
[19:05:19] <_teo_> evocallaghan: gonna try usb now
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[19:15:32] <jlc>  any links out there as far as mp3/video codec/flash?
[19:15:41] <jlc> for opensolaris indiana
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[19:17:32] <codestr0m> xRaich[o]2x: you said you miss for loops? http://www.cnr.berkeley.edu/~casterln/tcsh/Builtin_commands.html#foreach
[19:18:18] <codestr0m> btw. what the hell is that thing at the top of your blog
[19:18:32] <codestr0m> (looks like it could eat a penguin though)
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[19:21:04] <xRaich[o]2x> codestr0m: thats the pokemon raichu which gave me my nickname ^^
[19:21:31] <xRaich[o]2x> codestr0m: i know the foreach builtin. i just not feels the same.....
[19:21:33] <xRaich[o]2x> it
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[19:25:53] <_teo_> evocallaghan: no luck with disabling usb either
[19:26:06] <xRaich[o]2x> codestr0m: also, try to make something like this pmap -x $(pgrep $(echo ksh)). i really like that kind of syntax even though the example is pretty stupid ^^
[19:27:31] <codestr0m> xRaich[o]2x: you should get a picture of raichu with a penguin in a headlock.. that would be hilarious
[19:27:38] <evocallaghan> _teo_:I *would* be contacting GB themselfs
[19:27:48] <evocallaghan> As I did about my MB from them
[19:28:10] <evocallaghan> They replied with crap like "reboot your IBM'ma" or something silly like that
[19:28:11] <_teo_> evocallaghan: and they fixed it?
[19:28:35] <xRaich[o]2x> codestr0m: i try to avoid to flame to much. even though i always like a good rant :P
[19:28:44] <evocallaghan> Your need to send two odd emails to the right places and it should get fixed
[19:28:49] <codestr0m> nobody is listening :P
[19:29:21] <evocallaghan> else, make a complaint it fair tradings and it *will* get fixed ! N.B. What happend with Foxconn and there crap
[19:29:21] <codestr0m> anyway.. diehard linux people don't last long in this channel I think. they convert to leave :)
[19:29:35] <codestr0m> convert or leave*
[19:29:54] <jlc> will installing the gst* packages from blastwave work on opensolaris for mp3?  (ugly/bad)
[19:29:59] <jlc> http://blastwave.network.com:10000/
[19:30:02] <_teo_> evocallaghan: so do I complain to gb or report a bug to opensolaris?
[19:30:23] <xRaich[o]2x> codestr0m: i converted :P but i wasn't die hard when i did ^^
[19:30:25] <evocallaghan> I would do both
[19:30:43] <codestr0m> jlc: http://www.codestrom.com/wandering/2008/08/opensolaris-how.html
[19:30:51] <evocallaghan> _teo_:http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=2978 that was what happened to me
[19:31:43] <codestr0m> jlc: I should expand and make it it's own post... ,but if they add any gpl codecs the whole thing essentially turns gpl.. so it's a bit tricky...
[19:31:45] <jlc> codestr0m: thanks, does that work with video codecs too?
[19:33:03] <codestr0m> jlc: half resolved.. by this I mean I can play most videos/dvd.. , but subtitles doesn't work in one.. works in another.. screen saver works in another, but not the first.. so it's really no perfect world...
[19:33:31] <codestr0m> this is pulling from SFE or blastwave. I forget which repo I got gxine, and gmplayer from
[19:33:34] <jlc> ah
[19:34:06] <jlc> have you tried the packages from blastwave instead of fluendo?
[19:35:47] <codestr0m> not specifically for rhythmbox
[19:36:31] <codestr0m> I have 30k mp3 and I prefer something which is probably stable and won't crash vs something I can only maybe count on.
[19:36:37] <codestr0m> scanning the whole library is a pita
[19:37:06] <evocallaghan> _teo_:I'm off to bed
[19:37:13] <xRaich[o]2x> night evocallaghan
[19:37:31] <evocallaghan> xRaich[o]2x:Thanks man, night
[19:37:35] <_teo_> good night evocallaghan
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[19:38:42] <codestr0m> > /dev/sleep 2 &
[19:38:54] <xRaich[o]2x> fg %evocallaghan
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[19:54:07] <xRaich[o]2x> codestr0m: just took a look at your blog, nice ;)
[19:54:29] <xRaich[o]2x> codestr0m: aha vegetarian  ^^
[19:54:50] <codestr0m> ??oopse
[19:55:08] <codestr0m> I don't post a lot of personal stuff normally
[19:55:24] * xRaich[o]2x = vegan
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[19:55:26] <xRaich[o]2x> ^^
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[19:56:43] <codestr0m> heh... it's strange, but most of the really smart people I meet are vegetarians or vegans
[19:57:04] <codestr0m> I used to be strict vegan, but I like cheese too much (real cheese.. even if the soy stuff isn't soooo bad)
[19:57:20] <xRaich[o]2x> soy cheese i horrible XD
[19:57:26] <xRaich[o]2x> works on pizza though
[19:57:37] <codestr0m> well. it's not bad.. you can't make proper nachos with it though
[19:58:07] <codestr0m> the melting point on that stuff is soooo high
[19:58:19] <codestr0m> I swear you could insulation a rocket with it :P
[19:58:25] <codestr0m> insulate*
[19:58:29] <xRaich[o]2x> hrhr
[19:59:07] <xRaich[o]2x> i heard something about ksh93 having programmable completion.... is this documented anywhere?
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[20:09:21] <codestr0m> tcsh is fast
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[20:10:25] <xRaich[o]2x> but the syntax.... i know i'm whinning too much -_-'
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[20:10:30] <codestr0m> hehehhehehee
[20:10:51] <_setuid_H> Evening all
[20:10:52] * xRaich[o]2x wants for i in * do blabla done stuff
[20:11:04] <xRaich[o]2x> _setuid_H: hi
[20:11:12] * codestr0m hates python syntax
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[20:12:00] <_setuid_H> it's a true that tab as a indent isn't the best way :-(
[20:12:02] <xRaich[o]2x> python is ok. but that's not the issue right now.
[20:12:34] <xRaich[o]2x> i still prefer C++ but for scripting python is a really powerful language
[20:12:57] <_setuid_H> better than dr scheme :-)
[20:13:21] <xRaich[o]2x> hrhr
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[20:22:40] <TomJ> ksh93 has the best programming support,  but I am not sure how I'd rate it as a command interpreter (no readline for example.)   bash has very good programming support, very good command line, OK programmable completion.  zsh has the best programmable completion, I believe its programming is as good as bash's, and it has a lot of addons and might be a bit bloated/slow.   tcsh and csh.. i am not sure why anyone would use
[20:22:40] <TomJ> them :)
[20:23:20] <_setuid_H> Tom
[20:24:24] <_setuid_H> TomJ: what do you think what is best choice in this moment?
[20:24:48] <TomJ> well I use bash for nearly everything, but ksh93 for advanced scripts / shell script utilities
[20:24:58] <TomJ> zsh looks good, but I've never taken the time to investigate it enough to know if it's worth switching
[20:24:59] <Aria> I use ksh for scripts, and bash for my own command interpreter.
[20:25:17] <Aria> And zsh when I'm not using bash. I've found I don't actually care that much.
[20:25:19] <_setuid_H> Init scripts are ksh too aren't they?
[20:25:26] <TomJ> no init scripts are usually /bin/sh
[20:25:36] <TomJ> Solaris /bin/sh is used as a punishment in some countries.
[20:25:50] <_setuid_H> TomJ: thanks for the info
[20:26:07] <xRaich[o]2x> TomJ: well /bin/sh in opensolaris links to ksh93
[20:26:19] <xRaich[o]2x> 2008.05
[20:26:32] <xRaich[o]2x> dunno what's used in "real" solaris though
[20:26:35] <TomJ> xRaich[o]2x: ok, that's a change from Solaris 10 at least, and probably SXCE too I think
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[20:26:41] <TomJ> I would love for Solaris to get rid of /bin/sh, it really really sucks
[20:26:51] <xRaich[o]2x> never dealt with it
[20:27:05] <TomJ> (just so long as it can be done without breaking backwards compat of course.. which is probably why it's never been attempted before)
[20:27:11] <Aria> (Heh, exactly.0
[20:27:17] <Aria> (Damn things are HARD to test.)
[20:27:25] <xRaich[o]2x> zsh is quite cool but the completion code is horrible. plus the new style completion is way to complex for my taste
[20:27:43] <_setuid_H> well in os 2008.* is link from /bin/sh to /sbin/sh and from /sbin/sh to /usr/bin/i86/ksh93 :-)
[20:29:22] <xRaich[o]2x> that's what i said ;)
[20:29:23] <TomJ> I only discovered ksh93 recently but I really love it.  namerefs and associative arrays and hierarchical variables are all win.
[20:29:33] <TomJ> It's meant I can put off learning Perl indefinitely, and that has to be a good thing.
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[20:32:33] <xRaich[o]2x> TomJ: i'd just live to know if there was programmable completion in ksh. maybe like the tcsh stuff
[20:33:07] <TomJ> it's that important to you?
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[20:33:41] <TomJ> (that was a joke)
[20:33:43] <TomJ> http://kornshell.com/doc/faq.html
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[20:34:01] <TomJ> hm actually
[20:34:09] <sstallion> any indiana guys around?
[20:34:14] <TomJ> it talks about programmable completion but mentions keys, not commands
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[20:34:57] <xRaich[o]2x> TomJ: i read that but i never saw any documentation anywhere :/
[20:35:00] <xRaich[o]2x> sstallion: jup
[20:35:21] <TomJ> I dont think it has it
[20:35:33] <sstallion> xRaich[o]2x: I meant team members :)
[20:35:34] <xRaich[o]2x> dang :/
[20:35:41] <xRaich[o]2x> sstallion: aaaaaaaah ok ^^
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[20:38:50] <_setuid_H> sstallion: indiana users or contributors?
[20:39:11] <_setuid_H> sstallion: sorry I didn't read the last line
[20:39:16] <sstallion> _setuid_H: contrib should be fine; just looking for someone thats intimately knowledgable
[20:40:43] <_setuid_H> sstallion: I'm just collecting knowledge to start contibuting and do  not f* up anything.
[20:41:29] <_setuid_H> How long takes to get an hg account?
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[20:43:03] <anthrax> Hi guys
[20:43:13] <xRaich[o]2x> hi anthrax
[20:43:53] <anthrax> isnt anybody arguing about anything technical?
[20:44:20] <_setuid_H> Pietro_S_: Hi
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[20:44:56] <anthrax> I didnt ask that as an ass, but came here to learn something
[20:45:54] <WildWire> perhaps you will have to wait until something happens :-)
[20:46:08] <anthrax> :)
[20:46:27] <_setuid_H> WilsWire: how many czech people are here?
[20:46:31] * xRaich[o]2x is whining about shell syntax... but that's not that interesting
[20:46:39] <_setuid_H> s/many/much
[20:47:01] <WildWire> _setuid_H: I don't know :-)
[20:47:24] <_setuid_H> WildWire: I know about 4
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[20:48:02] <WildWire> _setuid_H: that's not so bad :-)
[20:48:21] <WildWire> _setuid_H: did that number include me?
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[20:48:44] <_setuid_H> WildWire: Of course I recognized you from the internet provider :-)
[20:48:52] <WildWire> :-)
[20:49:08] <_setuid_H> WildWire: o2 isn't it?
[20:49:39] <WildWire> _setuid_H: yes
[20:49:46] <_setuid_H> :-)
[20:50:48] <_setuid_H> sstallion: are you from the indiana team?
[20:52:57] <sstallion> _setuid_H: no
[20:53:07] <sstallion> I work with ON bits
[20:53:34] <_setuid_H> I have a problem with pkg.depotd it throws me an error : pkg.depotd: unable to bind to the specified port: 9000. Reason: Cannot assign requested address
[20:53:56] <_setuid_H> any port can't be assigned
[20:54:38] <_setuid_H> Could this be caused by running sys-unconfig?
[20:55:13] <sstallion> possibly, looks like a fouled up network config
[20:55:20] <WildWire> _setuid_H: just a wild guess here, but doesn't sys-unconfig cause all network interfaces unconfiguration?
[20:55:29] <_setuid_H> yes
[20:55:48] <_setuid_H> but network is automatically set up by nwam
[20:56:01] <WildWire> I see
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[20:56:59] <WildWire> does the system have a hostname?
[20:57:09] <_setuid_H> yes
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[20:57:28] <_setuid_H> I configured everything for physical:default
[20:57:29] <WildWire> can it ping it's loopback interface?
[20:57:37] <WildWire> I see
[20:57:54] <_setuid_H> alive
[20:58:22] <_setuid_H> then changed default for nwam
[20:59:20] <WildWire> isn't there other process running on port 9000?
[20:59:24] <_setuid_H> no
[20:59:40] <_setuid_H> the problem is on any port
[21:00:23] <WildWire> hmm, if nothing else it seems like some privileges problem, but port 9000 should not require any special privileges
[21:01:01] <_setuid_H> i have Primary Administrator and All in RBAC
[21:01:23] <bda> Is /etc/hosts populated?
[21:01:54] <_setuid_H> yes but address differ from the real one
[21:02:25] <_setuid_H> it was configured for bge0 on which I have a static address
[21:02:38] <bda> Try fixing that.
[21:02:39] <_setuid_H> wpi0 is dynamically
[21:02:42] <_setuid_H> ok
[21:03:19] <_setuid_H> but thats bullshit what if i connect an hour later do I have to change it again?
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[21:04:47] <_setuid_H> damnt
[21:04:48] <_setuid_H> damn
[21:04:51] <_setuid_H> That's it
[21:04:53] <_setuid_H> strange
[21:05:15] <bda> Heh...
[21:05:17] <_setuid_H> bda: Thanks
[21:05:38] <_setuid_H> bda: But I have a dhcp running on wpi0 what if I change address again?
[21:06:05] <bda> Fix it again. Write a script that checks the address on boot/refresh that munges /etc/hosts.
[21:06:14] <bda> Change it so DNS is checked before files in /etc/nsswitch.conf.
[21:06:28] <bda> Assuming you have valid DNS which will update appropriately for the IP change.
[21:06:47] <bda> Give that system a lease entry in your DHCP server.
[21:06:56] <bda> That last one is probably the only really useful suggestion. :)
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[21:07:06] <_setuid_H> bda: that's the fastest way :-)
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[21:07:21] <_setuid_H> and what if I'm not connected to any network?
[21:07:36] <_setuid_H> ifconfig ...
[21:07:38] <_setuid_H> ok
[21:07:44] <_setuid_H> I'll play with it
[21:07:49] <bda> I'm not sure if NWAM will give you a link local address or not.
[21:07:49] <_setuid_H> bda: thanks again
[21:07:51] <bda> np
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[21:08:41] <WildWire> _setuid_H: what solaris version are you using?
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[21:15:03] <_setuid_H> WildWire: 2008.11
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[21:15:24] <_setuid_H> WildWire: Where are you from?
[21:16:06] <WildWire> _setuid_H: I am from Ostrov, Czech Republic... but I live in Prague for almost three years
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[21:17:08] <_setuid_H> WildWire: I'm moving to prague 25th :-) I'm a new UK student from Novosedly (near Mikulov), south Moravia
[21:17:58] <WildWire> _setuid_H: wow, congratulations... what are going to study at the UK?
[21:18:07] <_setuid_H> WildWire: Programming :-)
[21:18:40] <WildWire> _setuid_H: that's great
[21:18:56] <_setuid_H> I have something like "Subscription" or how to say in english on friday.
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[21:19:30] <WildWire> _setuid_H: I know what you mean
[21:19:32] <_setuid_H> WildWire: What Ostrov town?
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[21:20:20] <_setuid_H> WildWire: CZ is populated by many Ostrovs :-)
[21:20:45] <WildWire> _setuid_H: Ostrov near Karlovy Vary
[21:21:01] <_setuid_H> WildWire: Ok
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[21:25:13] <jeffd_> On my laptop the opensolaris livecd just stops after saying its 3 lines identifying it as sunos...; I am not sure of another way to proceed.
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[21:27:29] <WildWire> jeffd_: what net card do you have? mine laptop is doing this when there is no cable connected... it tries to get an address from dhcp
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[21:28:15] <jeffd_> 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8038 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller (rev 14)
[21:28:15] <jeffd_> 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)
[21:28:37] <jeffd_> I do not have anything connected to the ethernet.
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[21:29:42] <NetSyphon> does anyone know if snv79b is available as an archive somewhere?
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[21:33:37] <jafari> google chrome is now available
[21:34:22] <benley> this does solaris users a ton of good.
[21:35:15] <jeffd_> benley, time being what it is, a wait is not too far. But, it is not even known how valuable it is.
[21:35:18] <jafari> http://www.google.com/chrome
[21:35:27] <benley> fwiw, it is possible to run chrome in wine
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[21:36:08] <benley> you'll need riched20.dll and winhttp.dll from windows
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[21:39:40] <_Auralis> and if one wants to go working on getting it running nativ on solaris: http://dev.chromium.org/developers/how-tos/build-instructions-linux
[21:39:49] <victori_> what rendering engine does chrome use?
[21:39:53] <_Auralis> webkit
[21:40:22] <jafari> for does who want google chrome for linux, http://dev.chromium.org/developers/how-tos/build-instructions-linux
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[21:46:14] <jafari> i think that link give you the chrome engine, not sure if its the actual broswer
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[21:52:45] <anthrax> hi guys. could someone please help me to install an firefox 3 on solaris 10. I have downloaded the firefox-3.0.1.en-US-solaris-10-fcs-i386-pkg.bz2 and now what?
[21:52:58] <Aria> bunzip it and then pkg_add it?
[21:53:54] <bda> pkgadd
[21:54:26] <anthrax> I'm totaly new with solaris. started playing around 2 days ago. just managed to install it and connect to internet
[21:56:03] <e^ipi> http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/coll/47.16
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[21:57:27] <bda> Isn't that in the topic? :)
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[21:58:56] <anthrax> e^ipi: thanx
[22:00:17] <jafari> to get java working u need java 6, update 10 for chrome http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/answer.py?answer=95282&query=java&topic=&type=
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[22:48:08] <RavenSlay3r> hey all
[22:49:15] <RavenSlay3r> whats the best way to back-up files on UNIX to an external-drive?
[22:49:23] <RavenSlay3r> stright-copy? .tar.gz? somthin else?
[22:49:34] <trygvis> I'd use rsync
[22:49:40] <trygvis> star is probably useful too
[22:49:52] <WildWire> I prefer some form of dump... ufsdump or zfs send
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[22:50:17] <trygvis> yeah, zfs snapshots+send if you're using zfs
[22:51:01] <RavenSlay3r> I had a backup-restore fail years ago, i THINK i was using linux/tar.gz ... lost all my music..
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[22:51:27] <RavenSlay3r> now it looks like a hurricanes coming before I get my new backup-solution installed so i need to go the emergency route
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[22:52:03] <WildWire> take care of yourself
[22:52:12] <[^OsAmA^]> hello
[22:52:24] 
[22:52:33] <RavenSlay3r> WildWire: thanks, i'll try!
[22:52:58] <rab> si yo hablo espanol
[22:53:02] <[^OsAmA^]> rab
[22:53:15] <rab> que tal osama
[22:53:26] <[^OsAmA^]> hola rab
[22:53:32] <[^OsAmA^]> nada aqui saludando desde cancun :P
[22:53:41] <[^OsAmA^]> es que instale opensolaris en mi maquina
[22:53:50] <[^OsAmA^]> y el vitualbox
[22:53:56] <[^OsAmA^]> y todo corre  muy bien
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[22:54:36] <[^OsAmA^]> el problema es que cuando estoy en virtualbox se atonto mucho mi sistema
[22:55:20] <[^OsAmA^]> y tengo 2gz de ram con un disco duro de 250 gz  sata y tarjeta grafica ati de 256   y procesador p4 hp a 3.0 gz
[22:55:22] <rab> es un portatil?
[22:55:29] <[^OsAmA^]> no man
[22:55:31] <tomww> RavenSlay3r: even on local disks I prefer "rsync" because is tells what it does in the logs.....and this helpd the user
[22:55:33] <[^OsAmA^]> es una de escritorio
[22:55:52] <rab> la maquina virtual, cuanto ram le daste?
[22:55:58] <_setuid_H> Babylon God protect us
[22:56:02] <[^OsAmA^]> no normal
[22:56:05] <_setuid_H> :-)
[22:56:12] <WildWire> :-)
[22:56:21] <[^OsAmA^]> la branco es que  mi inshe tarjeta grafica es una inshe ATI
[22:56:27] <[^OsAmA^]> me kgan las ATI
[22:56:43] <[^OsAmA^]> no hay nada mejor que la nvidia o la intel
[22:57:02] <rab> ATI no funciona bien con Solaris, desafortunadamente
[22:57:03] <[^OsAmA^]> y se jode mi sistema  y tengo que reinstalar todo otavers
[22:57:34] <rab> no abren las specificaciones para el publico
[22:57:50] <[^OsAmA^]> claro es muy facil  pero la branco  es que estoy en mi maquina   en  opensolaris   usando virtualbox  y derepente se reinicia y  ya valio mi  sistema
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[22:58:06] <[^OsAmA^]> y tengo que instalar todo de nuevo :S
[22:58:22] <rab> corres virtualbox sobre opensolaris? que es el invitado?
[22:58:42] <[^OsAmA^]> asi es
[22:58:55] <[^OsAmA^]> con virtualbox  corro windows xp
[22:59:00] <[^OsAmA^]> para los juegos :p
[22:59:16] <rab> ahh...yo hago la misma cosa, para correr iTunes en mi sistema de escritorio corriendo opensolaris
[22:59:27] <rab> funciona bien. que version de opensolaris tienes?
[22:59:39] <[^OsAmA^]> la 2008o5
[22:59:42] <tomww> gentlemen: there is english and there is opensolaris-es I you prefer (:
[22:59:44] <rab> me parace que no hay bastante memoria libre para opensolaris
[22:59:46] <[^OsAmA^]> OpenSolaris 200805
[23:00:03] <rab> por seguro, deberias upgrade hasta la version mas reciente
[23:00:10] <[^OsAmA^]> tomww no hay nadien en ese canal esta basio
[23:00:23] <rab> there isn't anyone in that channel.
[23:00:36] <rab> feel free to ignore conversations you don't understand.
[23:00:57] <[^OsAmA^]> opensolaris  muy bueno desde que use sun solaris 10 :P
[23:01:05] <[^OsAmA^]> muy facil y comodo :)
[23:01:15] <rab> bueno
[23:01:23] <[^OsAmA^]> pero tengo problemillas  con mi tarjeta grafica   y  la inalambrica :S
[23:01:56] <rab> problemas tipicos de solaris. funciona bien con hardware con apollo, pero no con otro.
[23:02:02] <[^OsAmA^]> tu tienes  instalado opensolaris  a 64 o a 32
[23:02:05] <tomww> rab: please, the standard language in this channel is english, I would be very kind to talk in english. otherwise feel free to open a private channel
[23:02:08] <rab> 64.
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[23:02:29] <[^OsAmA^]> que tanto tienes de recursos
[23:02:31] <[^OsAmA^]> en tu maquina
[23:02:52] <rab> pues, yo tengo 8 gb de ram. a opensolaris le gusta mucho ram.
[23:03:01] <[^OsAmA^]> si
[23:03:05] <[^OsAmA^]> :p
[23:03:09] <[^OsAmA^]> yo tengo 2 :P
[23:03:10] <rab> especialmente con virtualbox o con xen, se necesita mas que 2gb, opino yo.
[23:03:13] <[^OsAmA^]> en esta maquina :P
[23:03:37] <[^OsAmA^]> le voy aponer mas ram :P
[23:04:17] <[^OsAmA^]> o mejor voy avender esta maquina  y  voy armar una mejor que esta pero que tenga  tarjeta de video nvidia o intel
[23:04:24] <[^OsAmA^]> por que ATI es una  porqueria
[23:04:44] <trygvis> rab: uhm, why don't you stop making noise and make it over at opensolaris-es where people understand
[23:05:01] <sickness> evening all
[23:05:19] <RavenSlay3r> tomww: thanks for the rsync tip
[23:06:50] <sickness> rsync++
[23:06:51] <sickness> :)
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[23:16:32] <odracir34> hello solaris people
[23:16:43] <odracir34> i have a problem
[23:17:09] <odracir34> when i want to boot from the live cd , i get a error
[23:17:18] <odracir34> from the bios
[23:17:26] <odracir34> i think to new
[23:17:39] <odracir34> how can i fix date,
[23:17:41] <odracir34> ?
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[23:18:07] <WildWire> well, what bios is that?
[23:18:44] <WildWire> you have to enter the bios and on the first screen there is date and time
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[23:19:12] <odracir34> asus pk5e motherboard
[23:19:34] <WildWire> during boot press delete
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[23:19:55] <WildWire> more precisely during the initial log
[23:19:57] <WildWire> logo
[23:20:21] <odracir34> oke
[23:20:31] <odracir34> and then the problem is gone ?
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[23:21:12] <WildWire> well, I am not sure what your problem is... did you have any other operating system on your computer?
[23:21:32] <odracir34> yes
[23:21:36] <odracir34> ubuntu
[23:21:52] <odracir34> and that giives no problem atall
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[23:22:03] <WildWire> what error does solaris display?
[23:23:11] <odracir34> error 235 bios
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[23:23:31] <WildWire> sorry, is there something more?
[23:23:48] <odracir34> and then he stop and i get back in the menu of solaris or solaris text
[23:24:02] <odracir34> or i can choose solaris boot from hardrive
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[23:24:27] <odracir34> no nothing more that was al i get.
[23:25:34] <bradd> hi. is there a way to test my memory on a sparc?
[23:25:36] <WildWire> does it display something like "SunOS 5.something?"
[23:25:46] <WildWire> bradd: oh yes, it is
[23:26:03] <odracir34> no , i did not see that line WildWire
[23:26:18] <WildWire> bradd: you first have to connect to service processor
[23:27:11] <bradd> what is a service processor?
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[23:27:24] <WildWire> well, what sparc box do you have?
[23:27:30] <bradd> blade 1000
[23:27:56] <WildWire> well, ok prompt then
[23:27:59] <Stric> workstation.. no service processor (server remote management thingie)
[23:29:12] <bradd> ok, i can get to the ok prompt
[23:29:31] <seanmcg> bradd, having the diag-level set to max can test the dimms during the machines POST, eeprom diag-level=max, and eeprom diag-switch?=true
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[23:29:59] <seanmcg> from the ok prompt use 'setenv diag-level=max' etc and then reset
[23:30:00] <bradd> ok. will I be able to see the test on graphical bootup?
[23:30:26] <seanmcg> the test isn't with solaris, but with the OBP and yes you should be able to see it on the monirot
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[23:30:32] <seanmcg> monitor even
[23:30:54] <WildWire> or you can use 'test-memory'
[23:32:28] <bradd> ok, after setting set-env do i have to save it somehow?
[23:32:47] <seanmcg> nope, you can see the settings with printenv
[23:32:58] <bradd> ok.. and to reboot, i type reset?
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[23:33:05] <seanmcg> yup
[23:33:08] <bradd> ok, thx
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[23:33:20] <seanmcg> remember after this, setenv diag-switch?=false
[23:33:31] <bradd> ok, thanks again
[23:33:38] <seanmcg> otherwise you'll be booting from the net (default diag device)
[23:34:15] <bradd> ohhh.. thats why it trying to get to the net
[23:34:26] <bradd> what do i do about this?
[23:34:58] <seanmcg> if it got that far it would have done the test, you should be able to break it and get the ok prompt again
[23:35:50] <bradd> ok, i still havent' figured out how to reset.. reset doesn't do it
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[23:35:54] <seanmcg> or unplug the keyboard an dplug it in again if its a sun keyboard (not a usb one)
[23:35:59] <seanmcg> reset-all ?
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[23:36:24] <bradd> ok, thanks.. its going now.. after the test I will set diag-switch? back..
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[23:37:03] <bda> seanmcg: Random fire for you. I have a T5120 that passes memory tests, then hangs and restarts at "Setup POST Mailbox". Haven't been able to find diddly about it.
[23:37:24] <bda> Any idea what POST Mailbox is? :)
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[23:37:53] <WildWire> bda: I believe POST Mailbox is the communication channel between SP and host.
[23:38:01] <seanmcg> yup.
[23:38:06] <bda> Hm.
[23:38:22] <bradd> seanmcg, seeing you know open-firmware can I ask how to cause the boot-up to not stop at the ok? prompt but boot the default disk?
[23:38:25] <seanmcg> other than check your firmware is uptodate, not much i know of there.
[23:38:29] <bda> It is. :\
[23:38:31] <bda> Thanks.
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[23:39:07] <seanmcg> bradd, whats auto-boot? set to ?
[23:39:45] <bradd> yeah, that was it.. thanks again
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[23:41:22] <WildWire> I think the proper command is set-default-bootdevice
[23:41:28] <WildWire> or something like that
[23:41:40] <WildWire> setenv auto-boot? true
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[23:43:13] <WildWire> setenv bootdevice something
[23:43:23] <WildWire> I mean boot-device
[23:43:31] <seanmcg> devalias and see what 'disk' is set to if anything.
[23:43:39] <WildWire> yes
[23:43:46] <bradd> its booting, thanks
[23:43:53] <seanmcg> np
[23:44:18] <WildWire> np
[23:44:40] <norman> hi all. it is possible to install opensolaris without gnome and install some lightweight desktop/windowmanager instead? ... ok, i could deinstall gnome after installation and install another wm then, but the other way would be better
[23:45:15] <bda> Not yet.
[23:45:21] <WildWire> well, I am not sure whether there are packages for it
[23:45:42] <WildWire> but if you can compile it from source, then I don't see any reason why it should not work
[23:45:56] <WildWire> but uninstallation of gnome could be a problem
[23:46:02] <WildWire> lots of things depend on it
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[23:47:27] <bda> Look at the deps for slim_cd or slim_install.
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