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[00:09:45] <gisburn> stevel: ping!
[00:11:42] <gisburn> stevel: is there any "deadline" for the niagara2 folks to finish their work before xmas or why are there so many CPU+niagara1/2+sun4v-related commits right now ? It looks like they're commiting as madly as they can... ;-/
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[00:17:48] <stevel> gisburn: dunno, sorry... i have no idea what the platform groups' schedule is
[00:17:55] <stevel> but some of the n2 stuff was FMA stuff that had been trying to  putback before
[00:20:00] <gisburn> FMA=?
[00:20:12] <richlowe> I'd assumed they were waiting on the FMA wad that preceded it.
[00:20:48] <gisburn> Federated Monster Arachnoid ?
[00:21:27] <Stric> fault management thingie?
[00:21:51] <richlowe> though I'm wondering why that stuff hit the flag-day page twice.
[00:21:53] <gisburn> thingie does not start with "a", at least not on this planet/universe/multiverse
[00:22:28] <gisburn> maybe we need a redefinition of our universe...
[00:22:39] * gisburn wants to see the ARC case for that case
[00:23:05] <richlowe> if the universe is an interface at all, it would be Volatile.
[00:23:07] <richlowe> entropy, man.
[00:23:10] <Stric> apparatus? :)
[00:24:08] <gisburn> PSARC 71829192/2006-12-293818739-19282: Universe needs to be extended to cover the multidimensional unification of indogerman letters 'a' and 't' in the word contex of 'thingie'.
[00:24:16] <MikeE> anyone try to use a SunMC agent under nevada by chance?
[00:24:37] <MikeE> (architecture guys....) FaultManagementArchitecture...
[00:25:11] <gisburn> MikeE: Arachnoid still sounds better
[00:25:36] <MikeE> FaultManagementFramework would perhaps have been more appropriate, but FMF leaves WAY to much room for interpretation/creativity
[00:26:02] <gisburn> MikeE: fault-tolerant arachnoid would likeky have more than eight legs to avoid a fatal collapse of the entity while hunting.
[00:26:19] <gisburn> 16 legs ?
[00:26:32] <MikeE> I think gis is in vacation mode, and hitting the sauce a little early today :-)
[00:26:35] <sickness> they already have 8 eyes, give them a break :P
[00:26:57] <sickness> and in the meantime, try to evolve yourself at 8 limbs and 8 eyes ;P
[00:27:05] <gisburn> The MTBF value of a spider leg would be interesting...
[00:28:21] <gisburn> MikeE: no, I am just a) happy and b) bored because I am watching my machines whlle they build sources
[00:29:36] <MikeE> gisburn :: what-cha building?
[00:30:04] <richlowe> A watched build always errors.
[00:30:08] <richlowe> or whatever that little phrase is ;)
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[00:32:06] <sickness> gisburn: secondari windows machines with counter strike source installed on them are exactly made for waiting times ;P
[00:32:11] <mike-e> get off my nick
[00:32:32] <TGeeK2> Hi all
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[00:33:10] <mike-e> lol
[00:33:20] <MikeE2> didn't know it was YOURS!
[00:33:29] <gisburn> mike-e: no nicname wars here, please
[00:33:30] <MikeE2> (visions of my 2 year old... ITS MIIINNNEEEE
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[00:33:47] <MikeE2> and "IMN NOT DOING IT!!!!!"
[00:33:52] <MikeE2> :-)
[00:34:01] <nrubsig> no fight here, please
[00:34:28] <chopra> anyone know what's happening with zfs-boot these days? Project page seems rather quiet.
[00:35:10] <TGeeK2> I've read that there are a few "open solaris" distributions.  Anyone want suggest one with good hardware support and documentation?
[00:35:29] <MikeE2> chopra I haven't heard, but noticed the same thing. A "hack" for sparc was promised...
[00:35:37] <MikeE2> "soon" but we havent' seen that either.
[00:35:40] <chopra> TGeeK2: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/about/distributions/
[00:35:53] <MikeE2> iSCSI boot seems to have also pretty much vanished...
[00:35:54] <sickness> TGeeK2: for what is worth... I think that no one of them has man pagest, yet... so if you need man pages, you'd better try SXCR first...
[00:36:07] <TGeeK2> ok, thanks
[00:36:18] <sickness> MikeE2: isn't already possible to do that from hardware controllers?
[00:36:21] <TGeeK2> I've tried Solaris Express, and it failed miserably
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[00:36:44] <chopra> I saw the x86 hackish boot, with some sort of tiny ufs partition to boot from I believe, but I haven't really heard anything since then
[00:36:47] <sickness> TGeeK2: failed? how?
[00:38:04] <TGeeK2> My VIA mobo NIC wasn't detected and I couldn't find adequate documentation to figure out how to manually enable it
[00:38:09] <MikeE2> sickness :: yeah, I think hardware controllers can kinda make it happen (similar to HBAs) because the bios on the card basically makes it look like a "local" drive before handing control to the os/kernel...
[00:38:10] <cmihai> Boo hoo
[00:38:17] <cmihai> That's hardly "failed miserably"
[00:38:22] <cmihai> That's sucky hardware.
[00:38:23] <MikeE2> (its kinda cheating though, and not really iSCSI as far as the OS is concerned)
[00:38:30] <sickness> MikeE2: yeah, that's hit, of cource it's not cheap :/
[00:38:34] <cmihai> Tough luck, look for a driver on opensolaris.org or pay the 5$
[00:38:42] <cmihai> (for a supported NIC)
[00:38:43] <sickness> MikeE2: I'd like to see an hack to make a software boot too =)
[00:39:05] <sickness> TGeeK2: did you try with the masayuki murayama drivers?
[00:39:12] <TGeeK2> no
[00:39:13] <sickness> TGeeK2: wait, I've a better solution
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[00:39:31] <sickness> TGeeK2: try the belenix live iso, I'm sure that it already contains all the 3rd party opensolaris nic drivers!
[00:39:32] <TGeeK2> I've been using linux for 4 years, but I couldn't find documentation on how to change the drivers.  I'm a total Solaris newbie
[00:40:03] <TGeeK2> I'll grab that CD tonight\
[00:40:07] <sickness> TGeeK2: http://www.genunix.org/distributions/belenix_site/binfiles/belenix0.5.1.iso <- try this, it should detect your nic!
[00:40:10] <sickness> :)
[00:40:30] <cmihai> Toto, this isn't Kansas anymore ;P
[00:40:49] <sickness> I go to bed, nite all
[00:41:02] <cmihai> TGeeK2: just greo opensolaris.org for drivers... that match your NIC's name
[00:41:12] <cmihai> And READ
[00:41:38] <cmihai> There's some stuff on google too... found one for onboard via for example.. and cheapass rl also. But really, just pay the 5$
[00:42:43] <jamesd> http://www.rit.edu/~jpsdss/couch/  now i need a couch like this
[00:42:45] <TGeeK2> I'm not sure I understand.  Is the $5 for a site membership?
[00:42:55] <cmihai> A supported NIC
[00:43:06] <cmihai> Read the HCL
[00:43:23] <TGeeK2> ok, will do
[00:43:36] <cmihai> HCL - hardware compatibility list, on bigadmin site.
[00:44:04] <cmihai> Or grab some proper MB's.
[00:44:09] <TGeeK2> just so you know, I'm not an anti-RTFM guy, I'm just new to this
[00:44:26] <cmihai> I'm pretty damn happy with this one... 2 onboad gigabit bge's and everything is supported ;)
[00:44:41] * TFKyle tried belenix a few hours ago, failed to boot on his PMMX :(
[00:49:57] <MikeE2> anyone online have a thumper? I got one the other day and was confused by the standard layout...
[00:50:13] <jamesd> how so...
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[00:50:52] <cmihai> I wish 70k would just land in my lap like that :P
[00:51:09] <MikeE2> they did a great job doing raidz accross controllers for the zpool.... but for some reason the sds-mirrored boot-devices were on the same controller... didn't make any sense to me....
[00:51:39] <jamesd> cmihai, you wouldn't say that if a  150lbs.  thumper was dropped in your lap from a height of say about 2 meters?
[00:51:48] <cmihai> jamesd: I would.
[00:51:51] <cmihai> I don't need legs..
[00:51:55] <cmihai> (for a while)
[00:52:52] <jamesd> mikE2 perhaps its a limitation of the lom, but i have no idea.
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[00:53:24] <MikeE2> jamesd :: ok.... I'll ask the support-channel to see what they were thinking... could be some technical reasons...
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[00:53:40] * cmihai hopes to get one at work next year, but it's a real PITA since we would have to get SUN to bid on the auction.. and every one seems to be won by HP/EMC :(
[00:53:51] <MikeE2> goofy thing runs linux on the ilom.... on powerpc to add insult to unjury...
[00:54:22] <jamesd> yeah its been that way on ilom for several years... solaris is too heavy and doesn't run on ppc currently.
[00:54:35] <MikeE2> I know... lets NOT run it on PPC :-)
[00:55:27] <MikeE2> maybe a little AMD alchemy or something? perhaps some HW-embedded java interpreter? Hey if you can run your blue-ray dvd-player with java, couldn't you your ILO?
[00:55:43] <cmihai> Ugh
[00:56:47] <MikeE2> powerpc.... sigh... ibm sales people can't let that on die.... they bring it up CONSTANTLY.... (you know.. for every Sun box you have you have a powerpc...) why don't you JUST buy a powerpc and be done with it...
[00:57:10] <MikeE2> clowns :-) gotta love the sales people...
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[00:58:44] <cmihai> Buy 2 Opterons, get a PowerPC free!
[00:58:45] <cmihai> :))
[00:59:03] <MikeE2> :-)
[00:59:25] <MikeE2> (it'd be funny if it wasn't so true...)
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[01:00:13] <cmihai> Though I dislike most iLO's.. they're just not flexible enough
[01:00:14] <MikeE2> and now with the PS3 and the XBox360, their "Power Everywhere" plan for world domination doesn't seem all that far fetched anymore...
[01:01:06] <cmihai> Too many x86 and arms for World Domination to happen :)
[01:01:14] <MikeE2> well, if its between staying at home, or driving 3 hours to the datacenter in the middle of the night, I'll take the ilom. (although I prefer a nice RS232 ALOM myself)
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[01:02:18] <MikeE2> well, if ever ADM box Sun sells includes a PowerPC, and if PS3/Xbox-consoles "do the cell-phone" thing, where they are going to be more popular than PC's, things are going to get rather interesting...
[01:03:38] <nprice> Anyone played with nexenta?  Does it seem half-way stable?  I've got a friend who wants to set up a simple ftp server on a zfs array for a remote backup project he's working on and he's familiar with Debian but not Solaris so I figured it might be a good compromise for him
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[01:03:57] <cmihai> Yeah, but ALPHA means something :)
[01:04:08] <nprice> it's very non-critical
[01:04:16] <nprice> heh
[01:04:17] <cmihai> He should use Solaris 10u3.
[01:04:26] <cmihai> Or at least Solaris Express (tested builds)
[01:04:29] <nprice> 11/06?
[01:04:37] <cmihai> Yeah, that's u3
[01:04:44] <cmihai> Or Solaris Express 11/06. Whatever.
[01:04:50] <MikeE2> right... just get u3, if he doesn't need fancy, and just wwants it for ZFS.... 10/06 (aka u3) is what its all about
[01:05:01] <MikeE2> oops. make that 11/06
[01:05:06] <nprice> hehe
[01:05:47] <nprice> All it will be doing is ftp over a raidz array so I doubt whatever he chooses will be too difficult to manage for him :)
[01:05:55] <MikeE2> the raidz2 features of u3 might be of interest if he wants to use really cheap disks, and might not be able to replace things in a timely fashion
[01:06:25] <cmihai> Yep
[01:06:34] <cmihai> Got a pretty nice && cheap setup like that here
[01:06:49] <nprice> not sure if double-parity is really necessary in his situation, but i'm not the one to make that decision
[01:06:54] <cmihai> 4x500GB disks, raidz2, compression, nfs. It's rather sweet.
[01:07:17] <nprice> what he's doing is setting up a system to create remote images of workstations and diffs nightly
[01:07:42] <nprice> just as a test
[01:07:51] <MikeE2> snapshots might come in handy too then...
[01:08:04] <nprice> each machine has a staging drive that will hold the images and will be synced with a directory on the ftp server which would be the solaris box
[01:08:20] <MikeE2> (especially the ability to do recursive atomic snapshots to keep everything to 1-point-in-time)
[01:08:21] <nprice> will zfs snapshots handle binary files like a drive image nicely?
[01:08:41] <MikeE2> yeah, from the ZFS perspective its just a file...
[01:09:09] <stevel> laca: is there a build server in SWAN somewhere to test build a JDS package on?
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[01:11:13] <MikeE2> gotta run people.... have a good one...
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[01:25:31] <nrubsig> is anyone doing maintaince on svn.genunix.org ?
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[01:31:45] <i13> does anyone know how to disable graphical login?
[01:35:06] <Yamazaki-kun> svcadm disable cde-login?
[01:37:19] <i13> Yamazaki-kun: Thanks!
[01:37:19] <jbk> isn't it still called dtlogin?
[01:39:20] <i13> I can't get my dns to work. I setup my resolv.conf, modified nsswitch.conf, and enabled the dns client but i still get a "icmp host unreachable" when I use ping
[01:39:31] <Yamazaki-kun> Yup... SMF executes dtlogin in that manifest.
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[01:40:16] <cmihai> i13: does pining the IP of your nameserver work?
[01:40:23] <Yamazaki-kun> Is the DNS on the local subnet or elsewhere, and if the latter, is the default gateway set?
[01:40:27] <cmihai> What do nslookups do?
[01:40:39] <i13> ya i'm using my router as the nameserver
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[01:40:50] <cmihai> Well, can you ping it?
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[01:40:55] <i13> ya
[01:41:02] <cmihai> Can you dig it? :P
[01:41:11] <cmihai> nslookup :)
[01:41:23] <i13> ya
[01:41:59] <cmihai> nslookup -> server IP -> www.x.org -> does that return the IP?
[01:42:16] <Yamazaki-kun> That should be "Can U Dig It?"... if there are any PWEI fans here.
[01:42:54] <i13> ya i get the IP of x.org
[01:42:54] <cmihai> heh
[01:43:03] <cmihai> i13: what does netstat -rn report?
[01:43:10] <cmihai> About your default route?
[01:43:42] <i13> gateway 10.0.0.17
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[01:43:49] <i13> my ip is 10.0.0.17
[01:44:20] <cmihai> Did you or did you not route add default HOST? Is it routing?
[01:44:45] <i13> i didn't run that command
[01:44:49] <cmihai> It looks like your DNS works just fine
[01:45:06] <i13> i know but my browser doesn't work
[01:45:09] <cmihai> Try pinging some local domain cleint
[01:45:38] <i13> if i ping another machine on my network it says it's alive
[01:46:12] <cmihai> Yes, no route. I told you to look at netstat -rn. Or at least paste.lisp.org "netstat -rn && ifconfig -a && ping www.x.org && nslookup www.x.org"
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[01:50:49] <i13> cmihai: so should I add my route as my gateway? If so what command do I use?
[01:50:57] <i13> *router
[01:51:08] <cmihai> read man route
[01:51:33] <cmihai> route add default WHATEVER, depends on what you're doing there. Read.
[01:51:40] <i13> I did read it
[01:52:26] <i13> cmihai: ok things seem to be working now. Thanks
[01:52:34] <cmihai> Read defaultrouter(4) also.
[01:53:13] <cmihai> Since it won't apply at reboot without it
[01:58:21] <i13> does anyone know why my nic is disabled after reboot?
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[02:00:05] <cmihai> i13: yes, I do.
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[02:00:17] <cmihai> But you don't. So read the manpage, plumb it up, and setup the right files.
[02:00:38] <i13> cmihai: haha I will
[02:00:45] <cmihai> It's a lot easier to just follow docs.sun.com then skip from question to question on IRC
[02:01:17] <i13> well i find the docs.sun.com to not be very helpful but I'll give it a try
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[02:05:06] <jteo> re.
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[02:18:19] <jteo> hmm. Sun is closed for the whole of next week
[02:19:12] <jamesd> jteo, if your support contract has  6 digits or more after the .   sun is always open and shinning
[02:20:11] <Yamazaki-kun> Heh.
[02:22:25] <jteo> jamesd: :)
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[03:01:43] <javiolo> is there any starter guide to Solaris ?
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[03:02:00] <javiolo> just installed nexenta and Im a bit lost
[03:02:24] <javiolo> some things differs from other linux distros
[03:08:12] <klepplap> it's not a linux distro
[03:08:27] <klepplap> stop thinking it is
[03:08:33] <klepplap> it's a completely different operating system
[03:08:44] <javiolo> yep
[03:08:50] <javiolo> I know its no linux
[03:09:13] <javiolo> so is there any usefull guide ?
[03:09:25] <klepplap> docs.sun.com can be of help
[03:09:33] <javiolo> Im used to linux and some commands like ifconfig doesnt do the same
[03:09:45] <klepplap> ah, it's quite similar
[03:09:49] <klepplap> see the man page
[03:09:57] <klepplap> or the guide to networking on docs.sun.com
[03:10:08] <javiolo> ok
[03:10:45] <javiolo> every doc about solaris will help me or do I have to search for opensolaris ?
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[03:11:14] <myrkraverk> hello
[03:12:01] <myrkraverk> has anyone here gone through the device driver tutorial? I can't get my qotd_2 to work - can it be a problem with the tutorial?
[03:13:10] <javiolo> klepplap: no man entry for ifconfig, btw whats the ethernet interface ?
[03:13:41] <jteo> javiolo: ifconfig -a
[03:14:13] <javiolo> jteo: thanks
[03:14:34] <javiolo> for some reason the network panel on nexenta doesnt work...
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[04:23:19] <matt____> hey guys,  does anyone have link to 3com pci network drivers for opensolaris or solaris on x86? Thanks!
[04:27:56] <Yamazaki-kun> Which card?
[04:28:08] <Yamazaki-kun> Should just work.
[04:31:17] <matt____> 3com905b i think
[04:31:26] <matt____> i'm using solaris 10
[04:31:57] <matt____> i'll have to add it to driver_aliases i suppose
[04:32:16] <matt____> interface doesn't appear after doing an full install
[04:32:28] <matt____> machine is some dell insiron 3000
[04:33:22] <matt____> i know on our sun enterprise systems i had to addsome packages to get the sbus fibre cards to work ..  i'm googling atm,  i think i found somethig that i can try..
[04:33:37] <matt____> i'm taking a level 2 dump atm but i'll give it a shot in a few
[04:38:01] * Tpenta tries really hard to avoid the connotations of a #2 dump
[04:38:17] * Tpenta can think of better places to be working the coputer from ;)
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[04:39:59] <matt____> Tpenta this my time
[04:40:01] <matt____> :D
[04:40:31] <Tpenta> :-D
[04:41:00] <matt____> 2 infants 2 dogs 1 wife..... you'd understand...
[04:41:35] <Tpenta> see stevel's blog about animals in the house :)
[04:42:08] <Tpenta> http://whacked.net/2006/12/21/of-all-the/
[04:42:12] <matt____> heh ok
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[04:42:53] <matt____> it's the simple things like the highlight of my week is taking 30 mis to go pick up dog shit in the back yard
[04:43:04] <Tpenta> :)
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[04:43:48] <Tpenta> we deal with , 8 yo boy/girl twins, 2 dogs, 2 cats and 2 ferrets. The old poodle has 3 legs, the young cattle dog thinks it's a cat
[04:44:26] <matt____> well at least with an 8 year old yo ucan leave them in the room for  more than 15 mis.. or maybe you can't
[04:44:28] <matt____> minsn
[04:44:31] <matt____> mins
[04:45:05] <Tpenta> given performances today, no you cant
[04:45:44] <matt____> just discovered this week that can't leave the youngest on the bed alone anymore.. *thump* :D
[04:45:53] <Tpenta> oops
[04:47:35] <matt____> ok going to give it a shot w/this network card
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[05:06:37] <lloy0076> My current version of Eclipse (the x86 for Solaris version downloaded from the Eclipse web-site) is crashing with a JVM error. I thought it might be memory so I ran memtest86 overnight; it said that it ran all tests 20 times and found no errors.
[05:07:11] <lloy0076> Having looked a little closer at what Eclipse *does* tell me, I might have: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=140244
[05:07:43] <lloy0076> I forgot that I'm now using ON Build 54 (from the OpenSolaris download site) and that I've probably never tried to run Eclipse on that platform until last night.
[05:08:32] <jamesd> i don't see a userland app breaking   opensolaris,  only wierd network apps have problems these days.
[05:09:23] <lloy0076> I actually don't think Solaris is broken.
[05:09:55] <nrubsig> jamesd: well, today I found an all-new way to panic the kernel using ksh93.
[05:09:58] <lloy0076> Reading between the lines, Eclipse and Java 1.6 may or may not work well with each other; I'm trying to convince Eclipse to use the JDK 1.5 to start itself up.
[05:10:26] <jamesd> nrubsig, as i said  wierd apps.... and it might even fit the  network app as well...
[05:10:51] <nrubsig> jamesd: yeah... it was the /dev/sctp/ support in ksh93 which caused the havoc
[05:11:50] <nrubsig> jamesd: e.g. it's weired (ksh93) on weired (shell with networking support) on weired (shell with SCTP networking support)
[05:12:17] <nrubsig> uh, and we're giving a bad example for bash
[05:12:28] <nrubsig> they now figured out ksh93 has SCTP support
[05:12:33] <nrubsig> now they're doing the same
[05:13:23] * nrubsig wonders what would happen if he would add DECnet support to ksh93...
[05:13:39] <jamesd> nrubsig, why don't you drop a hint that  ksh93 is going to support  reiserfs internally...  and wait for  bash to implement and it will implode.
[05:15:30] <nrubsig> jamesd: nah, they will implement ext4fs support instead. remember that the bash people get their R$$$$$ from R$ and R$ does not like ReiserFS.
[05:16:24] <jamesd> but reiserfs is a filesystem that crashes and destroys data, thus making the destruction of  bash complete, first by size, second by data loss.
[05:16:49] <lloy0076> Eclips seems to think that /usr/java isn't a place where it can find a JRE or Java SDK.
[05:17:06] <nrubsig> http://www.heise.de/ct/schlagseite/07/01/gross.jpg
[05:17:09] <nrubsig> jamesd: erm, no.
[05:17:21] <nrubsig> jamesd: ReiserFS is pretty stable.
[05:17:30] <nrubsig> jamesd: long ago it had issues.
[05:17:50] <lloy0076> nrubsig: That's funny.
[05:18:07] <nrubsig> jamesd: unfortunately some trolls still spread the information that ReiserFS is soo buggy and you have to use R$-sponsored ext4fs or gfs instead.
[05:18:11] <lloy0076> There seems to be news reports that Hans Reiser is suspected of murdering his wife.
[05:18:30] <nrubsig> lloy0076: which has nothing to do with ReiserFS's stability.
[05:18:42] <jamesd> nrubsig, you are just lucky i still here rumors of data loss, and I live by the old adage,  screw me once shame on you, screw me twice  shame on me.
[05:18:59] <lloy0076> nrubsig: Yes, I agree.
[05:19:12] <nrubsig> jamesd: I have ReiserFS on my laptop and on the 500GB disk and it's completly rock-solid and stable.
[05:19:26] <lloy0076> nrubsig: It was more just a point of interest that I was making.
[05:19:55] <nrubsig> jamesd: ext3fs just lacks the trolls who spam the newsgroups with bogus "I lost my DAAAAAATA" postings (usually comming all from the same IP address at the same day)
[05:20:30] <nrubsig> it's interesting to watch various newsgroups being spammed from different accounts but the same IPv4 address
[05:22:12] <lloy0076> Whilst I prefer XFS on Linux (for no better reason than becauseI can and it's been stable for me), I've never really had ReiserFS do anything particularly bad to me.
[05:22:29] <lloy0076> I have, occasionally, had to rebuild its trees but although that process was time consuming, it did work.
[05:23:20] <nrubsig> lloy0076: that only happens if the logs get damaned and even that was fixed in newer kernels
[05:23:28] <lloy0076> Most of my file system disasters are because of 'me' rather than the file system itself. I want a file system which magically knows not to delete files you accidentally try to delete but didn't want to.
[05:23:53] <nrubsig> lloy0076: by default reiserfs now writes logs deferred but then sync'ed.
[05:24:09] <lloy0076> Or one which detects the infamous: rm -rf this/ *
[05:24:16] <lloy0076> Note that space in between this/ and *
[05:24:17] * lloy0076 sigh
[05:25:01] <bklang> I once had an admin do "chmod -R 644 * /*"
[05:25:10] <bklang> hit CTRL-C partway through, but it was too late
[05:26:08] <nrubsig> bklang: sounds like you want to stop being root.
[05:26:20] <bklang> hah, yeah I don't use root, I use sudo
[05:26:27] <bklang> I have since retrained him into that habit
[05:26:36] <bklang> after much peer humiliation :)
[05:26:46] <nrubsig> bklang: $ passwd root --set-pass="$RANDOM" # will cure your disease
[05:27:03] <bklang> heh
[05:27:26] <bklang> I still occasionally have to beat heads when I see "sudo sh" or "sudo su" in the logs
[05:27:30] <jamesd> hmmm in /bin/sh    the passwd would then == ""
[05:27:33] <lloy0076> Eclipse still causes the JVM to segfault with Java 1.5.
[05:27:56] <lloy0076> I think I might attempt to log a bug about it and see what I get back.
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[05:28:24] <nrubsig> which JVM is default for Solaris SXCR54 ?
[05:28:49] <lloy0076> java full version "1.6.0-b105"
[05:28:55] <nrubsig> s/JVM/JVM version/
[05:29:22] <nrubsig> lloy0076: thanks!
[05:31:02] <Gr|ffous> I'll put in that under linux I never had any reiserfs issues
[05:31:29] <Gr|ffous> reiser4 + nfs was a recipe for problems, but not disaster, and I understand that's all been cleared up now anyway
[05:31:40] <bklang> I had reiserfs completely nuke a filesystem.  But it's happened once in 5 years (for me personally) so I'm inclined to forgive it
[05:32:05] <bklang> Still, I run ext3 on my servers
[05:32:10] <bklang> or ZFS :)
[05:32:20] <nrubsig> My god... it's like complainng about Solaris 2.1 being slow.
[05:32:25] <nrubsig> Sllooowwwaaaaris!
[05:32:28] <Gr|ffous> Heh, zfs is the reason I changed to solaris
[05:33:32] <Gr|ffous> manual partitioning, then manual md, then manual lvm, finally putting the file systems on... well it worked be sheesh zfs is easier
[05:33:35] <bklang> Gr|ffous: yeah, it was one of my motivations
[05:33:39] <Gr|ffous> and it's checksumed to boot :)
[05:33:43] <bklang> that and DTrace
[05:33:49] <bklang> and SMF
[05:34:24] <Gr|ffous> I still haven't quite worked out dtrace, I'll say this for it, "doesn't use any extra resources" is fud to me, I run intrstat, and what my cpu usage double
[05:34:37] <Gr|ffous> *watch
[05:34:51] <bklang> Gr|ffous: when collecting stats or not?
[05:35:02] <bklang> the only claim is that it doesn't use any resources when not in use
[05:35:07] <Gr|ffous> while launching, and running
[05:35:14] <bklang> when you're measuring, of course oyu'll have overhead
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[05:36:05] <Gr|ffous> I'm sure I heard something different to that. The whole thrust of the arguement was that it was safe to use on heavily loaded production machines. With what I've seen it do just on my desktop, I question that statement
[05:36:14] <Gr|ffous> everything else about it seems great though :)
[05:37:18] <bklang> safe does not necesarily mean no performance impact
[05:37:39] <Gr|ffous> I guess...
[05:38:10] <Gr|ffous> I does have some special mechanism for killing itself if it's using too many resources - I've seen it do that. That's cool
[05:38:13] <klepplap> what product are we talking about?
[05:38:19] <bklang> DTrace
[05:39:51] <Gr|ffous> Is anyone here using a StorEdge SAN?
[05:40:04] <jamesd> yeah  tracing every kernel function entry and exit  while pounding it with IO will do that.
[05:40:31] <Gr|ffous> I put one in Thursday, and value other's experiences
[05:45:39] <lloy0076> Ok, Eclipse running under Centos 3.8 with Java 1.6.0 from Sun doesn't crash. It does crash running under OpenSolaris ON 54.
[05:46:10] <lloy0076> Apart from install ON 53 is there an "easy" way to get an environment that is ON 53?
[05:46:15] * lloy0076 kicks self
[05:46:22] <lloy0076> I have another computer with...ON53 installed on it.
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[06:14:36] <lloy0076> The man pages for NFS in Solaris advise you not to mount a local NFS mount via NFS...but I presume that a mount from a Linux running in a BrandZ container via NFS wouldn't cause an issue...
[06:14:54] <lloy0076> Given that the branded Linux aught to look like 'another foreign system' in effect.
[06:15:55] <richlowe> to my knowledge, there's no reason you can't lofs mount out of it's zone root.
[06:16:18] <richlowe> and it wouldn't look like 'a foreign system', no.
[06:16:27] <richlowe> it's not 'linux' running in BrandZ, it's a linux *userland*.
[06:16:33] * lloy0076 hmmm
[06:16:59] <lloy0076> Effectively, what I'm trying to do is make part of my home directory in Solaris available to the linux userland in the brandz zone.
[06:17:10] <jamesd> brandz should have its own mount from the nfs server
[06:17:30] <richlowe> if your home directory is in the GZ of that same machine, I'd lofs it into the zone.
[06:17:31] <lloy0076> This is primarily to get past the 'Oh, it seems Eclipse is playing funny buggers in Solaris atm so I'll run it in Linux'.
[06:17:35] <jamesd> yes that should work.
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[06:18:43] <richlowe> weather?
[06:18:43] <lloy0076> Ta, I'll look into how to do that.
[06:18:49] <richlowe> or mercurial.
[06:18:56] <stevel> ran out of inodes :(
[06:19:04] <richlowe> that doesn't rule out mercurial stilL!
[06:19:25] <richlowe> well, it does, but eh.
[06:19:30] <Tpenta> my brother had an answer to your question abt how do beagles do that for you steve
[06:19:47] <stevel> i may take some of the older archives offline as a temporary workaround
[06:19:56] <stevel> mailman archives that is
[06:19:57] <richlowe> they use the ears to remain too depressed looking for you to get truly angry.
[06:20:05] <Tpenta> "On their hind legs in smoking jackets"
[06:20:20] <richlowe> hahaha.
[06:20:23] <Tpenta> my brother has a sense of humour like mine
[06:20:37] <stevel> lol
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[06:23:47] <richlowe> given the bit with the piano and now smoking jackets, I now can't stop thinking of them doing Noel Coward bits.
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[06:24:34] <nrubsig> stevel: what is wrong with the mail server ?
[06:25:01] <stevel> nrubsig: ran out of inodes
[06:25:14] <stevel> of course it had to happen just hours after we started our winter holiday
[06:25:45] <matt____> well Tpenta i loaded the box up with 4 different nics at once and solaris found the shittiest one rlts0 ;-D
[06:26:31] <Tpenta> o dear
[06:26:54] <nrubsig> stevel: that happens when you do not use QFS! :-)
[06:26:55] <richlowe> stevel: stuff goes wrong whenever you aren't around.
[06:27:00] <richlowe> stevel: you went to korea and broke hg
[06:27:05] <richlowe> stevel: now you go for christmas, and break mail...
[06:27:18] <Tpenta> stevel is in korea?
[06:27:28] <richlowe> Tpenta: no, when he *was* was when hg had to be down for 2 weeks.
[06:27:33] <Tpenta> one of my colleageius is on site with a cust there at the moment
[06:27:36] <richlowe> I think he's working on his job security :)
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[06:40:13] <Gr|ffous> In the interests of saving time next time, is there a faster way of upgrading between releases? Here is what I'm doing at the moment. I have 3 slices for LUing. One was snv_41, anther 45, and another 53. I'm upgrading to 54 now, but simpling upgrading over the top of either 41 or 45 will leave me will some of it's old stuff right? So I deleted 41, lucreated over the same slice, and then LUupgrade'd it from the new 53 'copy'
[06:40:14] <Gr|ffous>  to 54
[06:40:31] <jamesd> bfu
[06:40:42] <Tpenta> do a copy befor ethe lu
[06:41:01] <Tpenta> that will put a copy of what you are running on the other boot partition befor eyou upgrade
[06:41:30] <Tpenta> you dont have to delete, simply rename then copy
[06:41:32] <Gr|ffous> that sounds like what I want, how do I copy exactly?
[06:41:40] <Gr|ffous> manually with cpio?
[06:42:29] <Tpenta> i cheat and use the obolete lu interface, I'd have to look to see what it uses
[06:42:50] <Gr|ffous> heh, ok. That should save me some time I guess
[06:42:57] <Tpenta> lucreate i think
[06:43:21] <Tpenta> yup, lucreate
[06:43:23] <Gr|ffous> although the lucreate essentially just copies anyway right, so I'm just saving myself the delete step?
[06:43:46] <Tpenta> yup
[06:43:51] <Tpenta> rename then lucreate
[06:44:31] <Gr|ffous> so lucreate will let you create over the top of an existing BE?
[06:44:48] <Tpenta> believe so
[06:45:43] <Gr|ffous> ok, thanks
[06:45:51] <Tpenta> check the man page :)
[06:45:57] <richlowe> I didn't think it did.
[06:45:58] <Gr|ffous> on this system, it's taking about 2 hours to do this process :/
[06:46:15] <richlowe> if you're going to lucreate an existing BE in exactly the same fashion, you may as well use lumake, either way.
[06:46:18] <richlowe> less typing :)
[06:46:19] <Gr|ffous> not counting making the iso from the pieces, unzipping, and digesting it
[06:46:44] <Tpenta> sounds like a good move, ... i really should learn to do this from cmd line rather than with lu
[06:47:25] <Gr|ffous> I'd love to be able to use lu, but I still can't get my keymap/keyboard to work with gnome-terminal
[06:47:26] <Tpenta> yea, lumake is what i wanted
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[06:57:17] <nrubsig> Is anyone fixing the mail server ?
[06:58:16] <stevel> i am
[06:58:34] <nrubsig> stevel: thanks! :-)
[06:58:52] <nrubsig> stevel: any ETA when it may be online again ?
[06:59:03] <stevel> not yet
[06:59:15] <stevel> i'm going to pull a WAG and say <30 mins
[06:59:21] <nrubsig> stevel: just asking becaus I am 2h away from leaving and it's like to send my xmas trees to the lists
[06:59:30] <nrubsig> er
[06:59:33] <nrubsig> ...I'd like...
[07:03:49] <matt____> damn how to send  stop a on windows soalris ???
[07:05:52] <Gr|ffous> er, come again?
[07:07:31] <matt____> i want to boot -r or do i have to /reconfigure instead for soalris on pc x86?
[07:08:15] <Gr|ffous> if you are using a recent version of {opon}solaris, reconfiguration boots are no longer needed as I understand it
[07:08:57] <Gr|ffous> reconfigure was the way to do it on x86 however, that should still work I'd imagine
[07:09:50] <bklang> you can also do reboot -- -r or edit the kernel command line in grub
[07:11:14] <matt____> ok grub,  this should be fun
[07:11:47] <matt____> my ultimate goal is for set up solstice  disk suite to mirror and have alt boot to seconadary failover root disk...
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[07:32:35] <onbot> commit by sd77468:  6476919 New topo enumerators needed for Huron 1U/2U (fix build)
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[07:38:34] * stevel cheers
[07:38:39] <stevel> usb webcam support
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[07:42:10] <richlowe> Hrm, opengrok appears to show history in an entirely random fashion if you're viewing a directory rather than a file.
[07:42:22] <richlowe> well, random is the wrong word, there seems to be some scheme to it, it's constant, at least.
[07:42:27] <richlowe> it's just not a scheme I can figure out.
[07:44:06] <onbot> commit by sd77468:  6437505 enhance cpumem diagnosis engine for Niagara-2 (fix lint); 6488652 Add error handling code in Niagara Crypto drivers (fix lint)
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[07:47:43] <richlowe> stevel: did you forget to run the b55 drop?
[07:48:08] <stevel> the b55 snapshot hasn't opened yet
[07:52:49] <stevel> earthquake!
[07:52:51] <stevel> whee
[07:53:04] <stevel> that was fun. the dogs were a little slow to respond
[07:55:35] <stevel> http://quake.wr.usgs.gov/recenteqs/Quakes/nc51177103.html
[07:55:45] <stevel> wow. we were sitting right on top of it
[07:55:46] <richlowe> yeah, they were real quick with that.
[07:55:48] <richlowe> I'm somewhat impressed.
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[07:57:48] <aliquis> In sweden any quake we have are ezquake
[07:59:53] <richlowe> hm, kind of a pity hg -R can't make use of an sshrepo for a bunch of stuff.
[07:59:54] <stevel> yup, epicenter was about 2 miles north of me
[08:00:15] <stevel> richlowe: that is a pity, that'd be neat
[08:00:34] <richlowe> damnit.
[08:03:20] <richlowe> http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.php
[08:03:29] <richlowe> stevel: seems you get several per day in the general area :)
[08:04:56] <stevel> yeah, it is cali after all :)
[08:05:11] <richlowe> well yeah, but I hadn't actually looked at the frequency before.
[08:07:12] <aliquis> But there are no chances that like whole californa flips over atleast? I remember I thought/learned it would back in the days, but I guess it's a little to large for that ;)
[08:10:47] <aliquis> http://quake.wr.usgs.gov/recenteqs/Maps/122-38.html nice map you had
[08:11:14] <aliquis> what are the read lines? How the .. uhm.. ground are made up?
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[08:12:18] <aliquis> does the magnitude boxes matches how long it will be noticable aswell?
[08:12:31] <aliquis> thought I guess they would be round then =P
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[09:44:37] <onbot> commit by arindam sarkar:  6462151 iostat can hang if parent process has blocked SIGUSR1
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[10:05:43] <nrubsig> anyone with admin rights on mail.opensolaris.org out there ? ALl list archives are gone... ;-(
[10:06:32] <bougie> hello :)
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[10:09:54] <lloy0076> nrubsig: IIRC someone from Sun had changed the topic to state that the list archives and mailing lists had been broken. I don't know the current status though but that's probably got something to do with it.
[10:11:17] <nrubsig> oh fun
[10:11:24] <nrubsig> well, that's fate
[10:11:28] <nrubsig> as usual ;-(
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[10:17:01] <nrubsig> anyway...
[10:17:08] <nrubsig> ... merry christmas... :-)
[10:17:11] <nrubsig> bye
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[10:17:42] <lloy0076> Yes, Merry Christmas!
[10:17:53] * lloy0076 thinks he'll toddle down to the pub for a pub meal
[10:17:56] <lloy0076> Ciao!
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[10:31:45] <Teltariat> Greets folks.
[10:32:09] <Teltariat> I have a question (that might be related to one I've asked before, long ago, but I've forgotten the answer to that one)
[10:32:36] <Teltariat> I have a file server machine that uses 3ware cards.  I'm trying to test to see whether or not Solaris will recognize and use those cards
[10:32:49] <Teltariat> I am currently running Belenix on the machine (runs quite well)
[10:33:04] <Teltariat> 'prtpci' apparently shows the cards
[10:33:23] <Teltariat> But how can I check to see that the drives connected to those cards are accessible in a non-destructive manner?
[10:33:44] <Teltariat> They are 3ware PATA RAID cards (sorry for not being more clear)
[10:34:20] <jteo> Teltariat: run format and see whether it lists the drives
[10:34:31] <Teltariat> :-/
[10:34:37] <Teltariat> format?!
[10:34:46] <delewis> yes
[10:34:53] <Teltariat> That sounds destructive
[10:35:06] <Teltariat> (Mommy I'm scared)
[10:35:09] <Teltariat> :p
[10:35:18] <delewis> don't you think an enterprise-grade operating system would ask you confirmation before destroying your data?
[10:35:22] <Teltariat> Maybe I'm too used to Windows' idea of 'format'
[10:35:29] <delewis> (forget the ZFS destroy jokes, please)
[10:35:40] <Teltariat> delewis: I would hope so, but my experience dictates that one can never be too cautious
[10:36:01] <Teltariat> format only shows 2 disks, which are the disks directly connected to the IDE bus.
[10:36:15] <delewis> then its not supported
[10:36:21] <Teltariat> Seems as though Solaris can't see the drives connected to my cards.  That sucks.
[10:36:24] <jteo> an astute observation!
[10:36:28] <Teltariat> I wanted to move to ZFS.
[10:36:37] <delewis> buy a real disks and a real controller
[10:36:40] <Teltariat> Why thank you jteo. :p
[10:36:47] <jteo> Teltariat: :)
[10:36:53] * Teltariat sighs.
[10:37:08] <Gr|ffous> I wouldn't be too hasty, you may simply need additional drivers
[10:37:17] <Teltariat> Is there any special voodoo that can be done?  Like kernel modules loaded or something?
[10:37:29] <Gr|ffous> if format doesn't see it, fine, but all that means is that your current solaris config doesn't see it.
[10:37:36] <Teltariat> hmm
[10:37:54] <Gr|ffous> Teltariat, yes, solaris also has modules to load, both my network cards are using third party drivers/modules
[10:38:15] <jteo> possible that a driver exists, but you don't have it, or it isn't attaching (due to pci id of the card not being recognized)
[10:38:16] <Gr|ffous> I would check to see if 3ware supply a driver first
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[10:38:33] <Gr|ffous> that's another good point. I've had many a problem with pci ids...
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[10:40:02] <Fish> hello
[10:40:13] <Teltariat> greetins.
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[10:50:34] <Teltariat> delewis: Your earlier suggestion to "buy real disks and a real controller" is welcome; would you like to donate to my cause? :P
[10:51:48] <Teltariat> By the way, how can one get a list of - / or see the available kernel modules?
[10:52:19] <Teltariat> I know I'm wrong in assuming that Solaris does this the way BSD and Linux do, but I'm simply curious
[10:55:20] <sickness> modinfo
[10:55:25] <sickness> for the loaded modules
[10:56:51] <sickness> modinfo -c for installed ones, I think...
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[13:11:27] <Posixzombie> I have :  mount | grep export => returns nothing;  more /etc/vfstab | grep export shows :
[13:11:34] <Posixzombie> #/dev/dsk/c1d0s7        /dev/rdsk/c1d0s7        /export/home    ufs     2       yes     -
[13:11:57] <Posixzombie> but stil, ls /export/home shows 2 fiies ; how come ?
[13:12:11] <DataStream> lost+found
[13:12:12] <Posixzombie> s/fiies/files
[13:12:23] <Auralis> its commented out, it will not be mounted and /export/home will be just a normal directory
[13:12:31] <Posixzombie> DataStream, No , 2 regular files
[13:13:35] <Posixzombie> Auralis, I want to do the following trick (which once worked)
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[13:14:13] <Posixzombie> I want that 2 drivers will be under /export/home ; there will be symlinks to these drivers under /drv/jernel/$arch
[13:14:37] <Posixzombie> I am commenting the /export/home in /etc/vfstab
[13:14:51] <Posixzombie> because I don't want theses files to be loaded at boot
[13:14:58] <Posixzombie> still they are loaded
[13:15:17] <Posixzombie> And I wonder what did I missed because it used to work
[13:15:29] <Posixzombie> now these drivers are loaded at boot
[13:18:52] <kimc> good morning
[13:20:37] <lloy0076> I've accidentally mispelled something in a Zone configuration (I typed exhort into export) and I can't quite figure the correct way to "fix" this.
[13:21:00] <lloy0076> I'm having trouble interpreting the help in zoneadm.
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[13:39:19] <carbon60> Anyone have a mirror of http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/prod/solaris.10, it seems to be completely gone.
[13:48:05] <quasi> it was there half an hour ago
[13:48:14] <lloy0076> What's a Solaris FDisk partition?
[13:48:22] <lloy0076> SMC is saying that it wants one.
[13:48:36] <quasi> carbon60: still is
[13:48:56] <tomww> on X86-world, you reserve a DOS-fdisk parition of type solaris/lunx-swap
[13:49:21] <tomww> this x86-partiton will be sliced later while running solaris into the know slice-names of the solaris-world.
[13:49:35] <lloy0076> I thought that the default SXCR54 installer would have made one.
[13:49:49] <lloy0076> Given that I seem to have one partition with a number of slices in it. (Or did I get that the wrong way around)
[13:49:56] <quasi> tomww: the type has changed from 11/06 so it doesn't overlap with linux swap anymore
[13:52:07] <tomww> quasi: thanks.
[13:52:34] <carbon60> quasi: WTF? I get "Note: The requested item could not be found."
[13:53:02] <tomww> lloy0076: if you boot from cdrom to shell, run format and check the command "fdisk" and look for the dos-fdisk-partiton for solaris.
[13:53:28] <tomww> if defined, go back to fromat and see if solaris-disk slices are there.
[13:54:41] <lloy0076> tomww: It seems to think that it's  1       Active    Solaris2          1  12749    12749     33
[13:54:56] <lloy0076> But SMC says there's no FDisk partition.
[13:55:09] * lloy0076 thwaps self
[13:55:18] <lloy0076> Sorry, SMC was looking at the CDROM.
[13:55:21] <lloy0076> :(
[13:55:31] <tomww> :-)
[13:56:41] <rpaulo> merry xmas
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[13:56:49] <lloy0076> Is it safe to use format on a mounted disk that you're currently using?
[13:56:58] <lloy0076> Or should I drop back into a commandline in the installer...
[14:00:07] <Auralis> depends on what you are wanting to do
[14:02:55] <lloy0076> I don't think I can anyway.
[14:03:10] <lloy0076> It's a 100G partition (x86) with slices that fill the whole partition up.
[14:03:29] <lloy0076> I think I'm going to have grab the x86 Partition 2 and make a new one from scratch.
[14:03:40] <lloy0076> That will be safer for me anyway because then I can't accidentally bomb my system out. Easily.
[14:03:41] <lloy0076> :)
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[14:28:34] <obsethryl> g4lt-mordant: i never knew you were a solaris fan, good to know :)
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[14:43:32] * lloy0076 ponders
[14:44:01] <lloy0076> It seems some people have gotten LinuxKernel 2.6 to work under Brand Lx.
[14:44:03] <lloy0076> I think.
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[14:47:51] <jteo> lloy0076: you mean UML? since Brand LX doesn't involve a Linux kernel at all.
[14:49:32] <lloy0076> jteo: I think I mean "Programs that are built to use Linux Kernel 2.6.X semantics rather than 2.4.X semantics.".
[14:49:50] <lloy0076> jteo: i.e. they make calls to a 2.6.X kernel's ABI.
[14:50:51] <lloy0076> I use my Centos as a Squid server and Eclipse host platform.
[14:54:24] <Posixzombie> I am trying to perform boot from network for T2000; I had configured a boot server
[14:54:31] <Posixzombie> I ran from the OK prompt:
[14:54:31] <Posixzombie> boot net -s
[14:54:43] <Posixzombie> I reach:
[14:54:44] <Posixzombie> Using RPC Bootparams for network configuration information
[14:54:44] <Posixzombie> and then some more messages and then
[14:54:44] <Posixzombie> configured interface e1000g0
[14:54:47] <Posixzombie> and then it hangs; any ideas ?
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[15:34:15] <hspaans> Posixzombie:you checked sunsolve?
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[15:37:27] <hspaans> Posixzombie: the t2000 may require some fireware updates or some time before they continue (seen them take up to 30 a 45 minutes to continue)
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[15:52:46] <Posixzombie> hspaans, what do you mean by " or some time before they continue"?
[15:53:06] <Posixzombie> you mean that net boot is such a slow process ?
[15:53:45] <Posixzombie> maybe I should connect the T2000 directly to the boot server with no other machines which may cause slowdown ?
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[15:54:23] <hspaans> which version are you trying to install?
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[16:04:55] <dezent> is there any support for using opensolaris in xen domu ?
[16:05:32] <trygvis> dezent: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/xen/
[16:07:33] <dezent> seems like theres no updates since august..
[16:07:48] <dezent> ill give it a try when i get back to work
[16:11:44] * hspaans is angry towards sun, they made me a zfs slave
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[16:16:57] <TFKyle> hspaans: better than being a slave to lesser filesystems :)
[16:19:18] <hspaans> TFKyle: try extending ext3 on lvm on linux 2.4 then you can feel my anger or pain ;-)
[16:20:31] <hspaans> but then again that linux box is going to be a goner next year
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[16:21:48] <hspaans> Posixzombie: everything working?
[16:23:09] <Posixzombie> hspaans, to tell you the truth: I aborted it
[16:24:33] <hspaans> np, but first check sunsolve because there are more cases like yours
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[16:26:47] <Posixzombie> hspaans, thnks ; i will do that
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[16:45:00] <quasi> hspaans: look at the bright side - with zfs you can do most of the storage adm yourself rather than having someone else do it
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[16:55:43] <bougie_> where can I find pam headers for solaris 10 ?
[16:59:49] <hspaans> quasi: having someone else to do the storage thingies on linux is a blessing, but yes zfs is my new love for 2006/2007
[17:04:07] <quasi> hspaans: depends on the "someone else" - previous $job had fools doing the storage
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[17:33:46] <hspaans> quasi: here sysadmins do volumes/filesystems and storage dudes offer LUNs
[17:43:14] <quasi> hspaans: that's how we had it too - not that it helped much ;)
[17:43:42] <jteo> :)
[17:45:41] <quasi> they "designed" this really HA backup setup by using 5 mirrors to span 2 locations and occasionally breaking one of them off to do a backup
[17:49:14] <hspaans> joy
[17:50:22] <quasi> it was extra special because on the mirror they broke off, they mounted up oracle and did the backup
[17:51:02] <quasi> so there was solaris 2.6, 8 and 9 and on 9 there was 2 or 3 different ora versions
[17:51:59] <jteo> pure genius.
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[17:55:59] <quasi> it got even better when they wanted to do sap as well - I don't recall the details, but at least there was a 6th mirror ;)
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[18:01:43] <jamesd> is breaking the 7th mirror bad luck?
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[18:02:13] <quasi> I think it would be
[18:02:23] <PerterB> for seven years
[18:03:10] <quasi> 7 years in the purgatory of storage management
[18:04:44] <jamesd> i thought storage management was purgatory?
[18:05:10] <quasi> that's what I meant to say
[18:05:51] <PerterB> with the SunOS 4 version of ODS as your only disk management tool...
[18:06:43] <quasi> no, no - just excel like 9 out of 10 storage installations
[18:06:52] <PerterB> :)
[18:15:14] <whaq> Sounds like the stone-age management system.. (PRE-ZFS ERA)
[18:15:38] <quasi> whaq: that it was
[18:16:12] <whaq> Or rather, it was B.Z (Before ZFS)
[18:17:13] <hspaans> http://www.1-call.com/spf.html <-- wonder if you need to e-mail technical support in this case ;-)
[18:17:34] <PerterB> when we used to bang rocks together to get the bootstrap going
[18:18:14] <whaq> And the sysadmins were buff dudes..
[18:18:53] <PerterB> some of us still are :P
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[18:20:11] <whaq> hehe
[18:21:30] <PerterB> although more "aging and scrawny" in my case
[18:23:11] <PerterB> hmm, I was actually going to do some work on this train journey, but this GSM datacard I borrowed seems to have reduced me to web surfing and IRC
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[18:25:20] <jteo> PerterB: how convenient.
[18:25:59] <LurkinLurker> I'm downloading solaris and I have a question
[18:26:13] <LurkinLurker> For a desktop system, is there any point or advantage to setting up ZFS?
[18:26:44] <LurkinLurker> by 'desktop', I mean web surfing, playing music and the occasional programming project
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[18:27:50] <PerterB> yes, for the snapshots if nothing else
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[18:28:11] <jamesd> LurkinLurker, do you ever make any mistakes? do you ever have a harddrive fail?  do you ever run out of disk space?  is any of your data compressible?
[18:28:28] <andersmo> and if you add a disk to the system and add it to the zpool all your zfs file systems could expand onto it, no volume management magic necessary.
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[18:29:20] <LurkinLurker> So in that sense, it's like an automatic RAID then? (forgive the dumb analogy)
[18:29:37] <andersmo> it's automagic everything. almost. ;)
[18:29:42] <LurkinLurker> The snapshots sound like a cool feature, I probably do want to check that out
[18:29:50] <quasi> it is quite a bit more than just raid
[18:29:59] <andersmo> ok, so not everything. But it makes many "advanced" features very easily usable.
[18:30:31] <LurkinLurker> Maybe not 'automatic', but 'easy to use'?
[18:31:39] <jamesd> yes very easy to use...
[18:32:42] <jamesd> 3 commands and 2 minutes you are ready to use your new filesystem if it has less than 5 or so drives, if more than 5 drives add another minute for each additional 5 drives.
[18:33:53] <LurkinLurker> Very cool, I can definately handle that.
[18:35:34] * jamesd wonders how many  lvm, svm, vxvm  users  wait 15 or more minutes before they use there filesystem because that is what there old method used to take. ;-p
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[18:48:37] <elektronkind> Resyncing 48%
[18:48:50] <elektronkind> (three hours after booting)
[18:49:01] <elektronkind> raise your hand if you've been through  that before
[18:49:13] <jamesd> you live dangerously... rebooted a box.
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[18:49:52] <elektronkind> had to the other day. panic in a non-sun kernel module :/
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[18:54:58] <nachox> should the sunsource web page be showing this? http://test10.sunsource.net/ this looks like the test project you use when you setup the web page
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[19:09:05] <dezent> is there any iso of opensolaris for download ?
[19:09:33] <timeless> you can get a SXCR dvd in 5 pieces
[19:10:28] <timeless> opensolaris isn't exactly a thing you download
[19:10:36] <timeless> except as a thing that has source code
[19:10:45] <dezent> aah
[19:10:48] <dezent> ok
[19:10:59] <dezent> theres no prebuilt ?
[19:11:06] <timeless> it's not one thing!
[19:11:21] <timeless> sxcr=solaris express community release or something like that
[19:11:35] <timeless> you can get that thing, it's based on the source code managed by opensolaris.org
[19:16:53] <dezent> ah great
[19:17:28] <dezent> thnx
[19:18:46] <dezent> no chance for a ppc-build ?
[19:19:05] <timeless> did someone finish porting? (or start?)
[19:19:25] * timeless frowns
[19:19:38] <timeless> opensolaris.org has a js script error for ie
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[19:21:15] <nachox> just use firefox :)
[19:22:06] <TFKyle> with firefox it has css errors :)
[19:22:15] <freakazoid0223> opera
[19:22:20] <hspaans> links
[19:22:41] <hspaans> or lynx -dump ;-)
[19:22:55] <TFKyle> actually, ignore me... it doesn't
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[19:23:38] <hspaans> TFKyle: it can error with css3 even if firefox isn't support css3
[19:26:45] <timeless> anyway, http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads/ is where you'd go for quasi official downloads
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[20:17:43] <BadKarma> meh
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[20:39:42] <BadKarma> its warmer in chicago than its in here
[20:39:49] * BadKarma slaps around Al Gore with a POLAR FREAKIN ICECAP!
[20:40:15] <BadKarma> global warming my ass
[20:41:48] <BadKarma> someone has fucked up the jet stream is why -20 degrees
[20:44:08] <jbk> yeah, i was surprised how warm it was getting off the plane last night
[20:44:39] <hspaans> jups around zero degrees
[20:44:40] <Stric> BadKarma: seems like it's gonna be my second christmas without snow.. the other one was when I was in Sri Lanka..
[20:44:49] <BadKarma> yeah freakin CANADIANS stole OUR weather!
[20:45:10] <BadKarma> cool, Stric and how you feel about it?
[20:45:14] <Stric> BadKarma: we usually have -15 or so since I live not too far away from the polar cirle.. but this year, nooo..
[20:45:20] <Stric> BadKarma: it sucks bigtime.
[20:45:21] <BadKarma> I personaly woundn't mind at all
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[20:46:09] <GoodKarma> ;)
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[20:47:27] <Stric> GoodKarma: where is "here" btw?
[20:47:51] <GoodKarma> well, Scotland
[20:48:10] <Stric> not too far away then.. I'm in northern Sweden ;)
[20:48:16] <GoodKarma> :))
[20:48:21] <GoodKarma> Skaal!
[20:48:37] <Stric> :)
[20:48:38] <hspaans> what is the temperature in Scotland?
[20:48:53] <GoodKarma> Temp:  41F/5C    Windchill:  37F/3C    Humidity: 87%
[20:49:30] <hspaans> somewhat warmer then in the Netherlands ;-)
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[20:49:53] <sniffy> Double that for the South of Spain. Oh and kill the wind.
[20:50:00] <GoodKarma> so you guys, having the xmas break?
[20:50:19] <sniffy> Won't do anything tomorrow that's for sure.
[20:50:35] <quasi> hspaans: all the way up to 7 or 8C ?
[20:50:42] <Stric> we had -27C this day in 2003 :P
[20:50:43] <GoodKarma> cool, I've to work :)
[20:51:00] <hspaans> quasi: <3C
[20:51:14] <GoodKarma> but I want a new macbook pro, that's why :)
[20:51:21] <Stric> so +5C isn't expected :/
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[20:52:14] * hspaans > /dev/pub
[20:52:28] <GoodKarma> yeah, hspaans safe travels
[20:53:02] <hspaans> thank you and goodspeed for you all
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[20:56:38] <GoodKarma> i'll be doing the same laso in a bit
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[21:08:30] <GoodKarma> ok folks, Happy Holidays, I will see you next year!
[21:09:27] * jamesd wonders what will happen with all our GoodKarma gone.
[21:10:10] <GoodKarma> don't even think of it, jamesd :)
[21:10:26] <quasi> jamesd: party for the bad guys?
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[21:10:42] <BadKArma> meh
[21:10:59] <BadKArma> no time for igloo building!
[21:11:01] <BadKArma> laters
[21:11:05] <jamesd> your karma ran over my dogma.
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[22:06:33] <pikapika> hello
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[22:16:15] <estibi> hi pikapika
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[22:28:01] <pikapika> :)
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[22:31:25] <pismo> Could someone please tell me why I'm given the option of Solaris_reboot_transient after I run a reboot -- -r?
[22:32:22] <richlowe> Because setting the boot args via reboot involves adjusting the args the system will boot *next* time through, and unlike sparc, you don't get an easy way to do it via OBP on x86.
[22:32:49] <pismo> so I should choose the transient option if I want to see my changes?
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[23:57:09] <onbot> commit by sd77468:  6476919 New topo enumerators needed for Huron 1U/2U (fix noise)
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