December 22, 2006 
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December 22, 2006 [00:02:32] *** jamesd has joined #opensolaris [00:02:33] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o jamesd [00:07:37] <trygvis> hmm .. how do I get truss to print the complete strings in send() and recv()? [00:07:58] <hile_> how goes? [00:09:18] <Tpenta> gman, i'm here [00:10:07] <Gman> Tpenta, any idea what the new travel policies are for .aus, or where to find the information? [00:10:26] <Tpenta> what do you want to know? stuff for linux conf? [00:10:48] <Gman> Tpenta, yeah, need to sort out flights [00:11:11] <Gman> Tpenta, and want to confirm this atlantic.co.nz email address that i'm being notified by the old bouncing ammex mail is valid [00:11:28] <PerterB> trygvis: "truss -v send,recv" ? [00:13:01] <trygvis> nope [00:15:04] *** Mazon is now known as mazon [00:15:38] <steleman> gisburn: ping! [00:15:39] <PerterB> oh, makes sense [00:16:58] <gisburn> steleman: pong! [00:18:48] *** Aodh has quit IRC [00:22:36] *** bobbyz has quit IRC [00:27:12] <Gman> The Nevada 55 images are now available on nana.sfbay. [00:27:14] <Gman> woo! [00:27:15] * Gman runs [00:27:41] <jamesd> nana gives good xmas gifts? [00:28:02] <Gman> a better one would be nana being the name of an opensolaris.org machine [00:28:58] <hspaans> b55? [00:29:58] <alanc> of course Gman gets to spend an hour or two pulling the images across the net, while some of us can walk upstairs and grab a DVD off the stack of freshly pressed nv_55 goodies [00:30:11] <Gman> low blow! [00:30:35] *** xushi has quit IRC [00:30:59] <alanc> though I do usually pull images across the net myself [00:31:23] <Gman> i think i have to be careful given my parents are on a different plan here in ireland [00:31:35] <Gman> might kill their monthly quotas :) [00:31:52] <hspaans> quotas? [00:32:01] <Gman> looking forward to hearing schwartz come up with the workaround for that :) [00:32:10] <Gman> hspaans, broadband quotes depending on plan [00:32:45] <hspaans> those still exist? wow [00:33:20] <Gman> yeah, ireland's a developing country :) [00:33:43] <hspaans> no shit ;-) [00:34:32] *** sahafeez has joined #opensolaris [00:36:52] *** lacaAFK is now known as laca [00:38:22] *** yippi has quit IRC [00:39:11] *** yippi has joined #opensolaris [00:40:31] *** bobbyz has joined #opensolaris [00:43:10] <Gman> gisburn, you can now view kupfer in all his glory on planet.opensolaris ;) [00:43:19] <Gman> his head lives! [00:43:52] *** phus has joined #opensolaris [00:44:00] *** phus has quit IRC [00:50:59] <kimc> have a newly installed b54 machine which page faults on boot after [00:51:20] *** waswas has quit IRC [00:52:32] *** lloy0076_ has joined #opensolaris [00:52:49] <lloy0076_> Is there a HOWTO on how to install OpenSolaris on a Solaris Volume Managed set of disks... [00:53:12] <lloy0076_> I'd like to do a striped RAID (for speed - not redundancy) [00:53:23] *** Cass has quit IRC [00:53:23] *** mnowak_ has quit IRC [00:53:34] *** Cass has joined #opensolaris [00:53:41] <lloy0076_> lloy0076_: You could use ZFS and its HOWTOs. [00:54:18] *** lloy0076_ is now known as lloy0076 [00:55:25] *** hile_ has quit IRC [00:56:03] <gisburn> Gman: was it really neccesary to cut off the head for that ? [00:56:11] <gisburn> Gman: I needed kupfer alive... ;-( [00:56:17] <Gman> ;) [00:57:28] <alanc> gisburn needs to start a blog - then we'll have a komodo dragon head on planet.os.o [00:57:58] <gisburn> alanc: well, I'd like to have a blog engine which can handle docbook/xml ... 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Use the source! [01:11:15] <lloy0076> (docbook/xml blogs shouldn't be too difficult to implement) [01:11:40] *** hali has joined #opensolaris [01:11:43] *** donofrioatwork has joined #opensolaris [01:11:50] *** Teknix has joined #opensolaris [01:12:10] *** onbot has joined #opensolaris [01:12:20] *** jsubl2 has joined #opensolaris [01:13:40] *** phalenor- has joined #opensolaris [01:13:42] *** reflect has joined #opensolaris [01:13:47] *** Trident has joined #opensolaris [01:13:48] *** pde_ has joined #opensolaris [01:13:59] *** minerale has joined #opensolaris [01:13:59] *** evad has joined #opensolaris [01:14:00] *** BadKarma has joined #OpenSolaris [01:14:01] *** bklang has joined #opensolaris [01:14:02] *** swoolley has joined #opensolaris [01:14:02] *** scode has joined #opensolaris [01:14:11] *** nightswim has joined #opensolaris [01:14:11] *** mega has joined #opensolaris [01:14:13] *** |joni| has joined #opensolaris [01:14:14] *** IvanR_ has joined #opensolaris [01:14:17] *** _357181_ has joined #opensolaris [01:14:18] *** switch has joined #opensolaris [01:14:21] *** richlowe has joined #opensolaris [01:14:23] *** drio has joined #opensolaris [01:14:33] *** tomww has joined #opensolaris [01:15:00] *** prg3 has joined #opensolaris [01:16:42] *** trygvis has joined #opensolaris [01:16:45] *** jbk has joined #opensolaris [01:17:08] *** ircminer03 has joined #opensolaris [01:17:29] *** LeftWing has joined #OpenSolaris [01:17:35] *** ShadowHntr has joined #opensolaris [01:18:40] *** pogma has joined #opensolaris [01:18:42] *** asyd has joined #opensolaris [01:20:00] *** swoolley has quit IRC [01:20:40] *** r3boot has joined #opensolaris [01:21:17] *** sahafeez has quit IRC [01:23:37] *** ericr has joined #opensolaris [01:23:50] *** lloy0076 has quit IRC [01:24:23] *** sahafeez has joined #opensolaris [01:24:50] *** qbit has joined #opensolaris [01:28:51] *** PerterB has joined #opensolaris [01:29:25] *** hily___sc has joined #opensolaris [01:29:38] *** Doc has joined #opensolaris [01:29:38] *** sparc-kly has joined #opensolaris [01:29:39] *** jamesd has joined #opensolaris [01:29:39] *** kFuQ has joined #opensolaris [01:29:39] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o jamesd [01:29:41] *** jgilje has joined #opensolaris [01:29:41] *** trs81 has joined #opensolaris [01:29:47] *** alanc_work has joined #opensolaris [01:30:21] *** peteh has joined #opensolaris [01:30:23] *** hspaans has joined #opensolaris [01:32:50] *** sparkleytone has joined #opensolaris [01:33:15] *** lasseoe has joined #opensolaris [01:33:22] *** kirma has joined #opensolaris [01:33:25] *** mdj has joined #opensolaris [01:33:26] *** nethenson has joined #opensolaris [01:33:26] *** yarihm has joined #OpenSolaris [01:33:26] *** neoxed has joined #OpenSolaris [01:33:32] *** Tpenta has joined #opensolaris [01:33:33] *** Berny_ has joined #opensolaris [01:33:34] *** Odin- has joined #opensolaris [01:33:36] *** bengtf has joined #opensolaris [01:33:41] *** dduvall_ has joined #opensolaris [01:33:43] *** dduvall_ is now known as dduvall [01:33:53] *** rpaulo has joined #opensolaris [01:34:25] *** rachel has joined #opensolaris [01:34:39] <asyd> sic [01:39:23] *** echelog has joined #opensolaris [01:40:49] *** Netwolf has joined #opensolaris [01:40:50] *** Bart_M has joined #opensolaris [01:40:51] *** astinus has joined #opensolaris [01:40:57] *** cmihai has joined #OpenSolaris [01:42:00] *** vc-xentric has quit IRC [01:45:29] *** yarihm has quit IRC [01:52:49] *** rpaulo_ has joined #opensolaris [01:54:30] <gisburn> http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,762451,00.jpg [01:55:18] <gisburn> santa klaus shooting range ("shoot your own santa"): http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,764087,00.jpg [01:56:15] <gisburn> [WARNING: mature/graphic!!!!]: crocodile attack: http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,764101,00.jpg [01:57:36] <dwc-> who would have expected #opensolaris to be nsfw [01:57:39] *** simford has joined #OpenSolaris [01:57:50] <gisburn> dwc-: "nsfw"=? [01:57:57] <dwc-> "not safe for work" [01:57:58] <asyd> not safe for work [01:58:25] <dwc-> though, admittedly I have a /usr/nsfw tree next to /usr/sfw on my machine ... [01:59:49] <gisburn> dwc-: what does that subdir contain ? Your browser cache with all the goat porn ? [01:59:52] * gisburn hides... [02:00:01] *** Cass has quit IRC [02:00:02] *** peteh has quit IRC [02:00:03] <dwc-> no, that's in /home/stevel/porn/goats ;) [02:00:05] *** mnowak_ has quit IRC [02:00:12] *** Cass has joined #opensolaris [02:00:20] <dwc-> /usr/nsfw is my /usr/local equivalent [02:00:20] <jamesd> gisburn, we try and keep the nsfw stuff on #solaris [02:00:39] *** peteh has joined #opensolaris [02:00:46] <dwc-> which would have been /usr/local, except having /usr/sfw there already made it too tempting to have a /usr/nsfw [02:01:02] <gisburn> dwc-: I thought that was /home/tpenda/.secret/nobackup/p_or_n/goatlove/marriage/ [02:01:36] *** sahafeez has quit IRC [02:01:45] * gisburn waits that Tpenta kicks him for that... [02:02:25] <jamesd> gisburn, very smart of you to hide your porn under tenda home directory. [02:02:56] *** mega has quit IRC [02:02:58] <gisburn> jamesd: ZFS makes it possible... [02:05:13] *** mnowak_ has joined #opensolaris [02:05:46] <gisburn> Mhhh... maybe this channel needs a quota on the amount of people from sun who can join here... [02:05:59] <gisburn> =:-) [02:06:10] <jamesd> maybe just a max amount of lines that gisburn can post. [02:06:17] <gisburn> half sun is in this channel.... :-) [02:06:45] <gisburn> jamesd: I'd rather accept a maximum number of lines I am allowed to post about komodo dragons [02:06:54] <gisburn> say... [02:06:59] <gisburn> ... 500/day ? [02:07:00] <jamesd> that is 1. [02:07:09] <jamesd> i was thinking 2 [02:07:14] <gisburn> boooooooo [02:07:16] <gisburn> unfair [02:08:07] <jamesd> any way.. packer game is on... [02:10:41] *** rpaulo has quit IRC [02:11:59] <alanc_work> gisburn needs to check his math - 1/2 of Sun would be around 15-20 thousand people, which is much more than the 166 here now [02:12:37] <gisburn> alanc_work: sorry, I used zsh to calculate that. [02:13:05] <alanc_work> that's what happens when you don't have high-precision floating point in your shell, right? [02:13:06] <gisburn> alanc_work: that's why solaris should get ksh93 - better, more accuate (floating-point) math. [02:13:13] <gisburn> yeah [02:15:37] <alanc_work> hurrah - ATI driver works in my Xorg 7.2 build again so I can run it on my ferrari [02:15:50] <alanc_work> that means I'm almost done for the year [02:16:03] <alanc_work> just send that out and turn off machines and disappear until January [02:17:10] <alanc_work> hmm, "Deathly Hallows" - wonder what those are [02:17:51] <gisburn> git error: context corrupted. Purging datCore dumped. [02:18:08] * gisburn watches alanc_work screaming [02:18:25] <alanc_work> no, I'm putting back into teamware - just pulling from git [02:18:28] <alanc_work> sick, ain't it? [02:20:05] <gisburn> yeah [02:20:14] <gisburn> pulling from one perversion into another [02:20:44] <gisburn> but at least you're paid for this horror [02:20:54] *** uebayasi has joined #opensolaris [02:21:45] * jamesd thinks gisburn keeps his goat porn in teamware [02:22:04] <alanc_work> aww, (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable [02:22:36] <gisburn> s/EE/YAS/ [02:22:44] <gisburn> s/Y/You/ [02:22:47] <alanc_work> YAS? [02:22:52] <gisburn> s/A/Are/ [02:22:57] <gisburn> s/S/Screwed/ [02:23:08] <alanc_work> ahh [02:23:09] <gisburn> sort of [02:23:39] <gisburn> alanc_work: you have still two days left to fix the DRI warning. [02:23:46] <alanc_work> should work on the i915 box in the lab with DRI, but my laptop has ATI, so no DRI yet [02:24:11] <alanc_work> nope - DRI is Not My Problem (tm) [02:24:18] <alanc_work> "It's A Kernel Thing" [02:26:40] <gisburn> who needs rootkits these days when the machines have DRI support ? [02:26:41] <gisburn> bah [02:27:41] <alanc_work> ? DRI's not the security hole - /dev/xsvc is [02:28:32] <richlowe> given the amount X grovels around in places it shouldn't, why worry *more* because of DRI? [02:28:48] <gisburn> right [02:29:15] <alanc_work> remember, the X server is just the part of your kernel that runs in a different address space [02:29:19] <alanc_work> 8-P [02:29:42] <gisburn> given my various experiences how you can nail a machine at the next available wall with Sun OpenGL we should not complain about DRI ... [02:30:09] <gisburn> just managed to hardlock my Blade1000 with bzflag [02:30:12] <alanc_work> buy a Ultra 25 with XVR-2500 and you can have Sun OpenGL using DRI - the best of both worlds! [02:30:28] <gisburn> vomit [02:30:34] <gisburn> (sorry) [02:30:43] <alanc_work> though they hid DRI really well under the covers there so you wouldn't notice they ported the 3Dlabs DRI module for it [02:30:55] *** chily___s has joined #opensolaris [02:31:00] <g4lt-mordant> alanc, cince we're talking about openSOLARS, why not jut DTRT with that and make the X server part of the kerne [02:31:14] <gisburn> ugh [02:31:15] <gisburn> no [02:31:15] * g4lt-mordant shoots his typist [02:31:39] <g4lt-mordant> gisburn, well solaris is really pretty much hooked into X [02:31:45] <gisburn> alanc: is there a way to enable the seperate GL thread on single-head machines for Xsun/OpenGL ? [02:31:49] <alanc_work> g4lt-mordant: because then we'd have to duplicate a lot of effort writing our own drivers instead of using the Xorg ones [02:32:04] <alanc_work> gisburn: no idea [02:32:29] <alanc_work> besides, Sun did the graphics in the kernel thing years ago with SunView - that's old school now [02:32:50] <gisburn> alanc_work: I've paid for a dual-CPU machine and now get a single-threaded GL experience [02:32:55] <gisburn> crap [02:33:04] <richlowe> alanc_work just wants to avoid the glory of mdb ;) [02:33:22] <g4lt-mordant> alanc, and it worked, as far as it went. it made CG3 almost tolerable [02:33:25] * gisburn wonders whether it would help to enable the Xinerama extension for his one single head [02:33:54] <alanc_work> you could try that - we actually "fixed" Xsun to let you turn on xinerama with a single head [02:34:15] <gisburn> I know. [02:35:16] <alanc_work> did they take engineer names out of bugs.o.o? [02:35:53] <alanc_work> was expecting to see my name on the bug for that - http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=4930353 [02:36:02] <richlowe> ... [02:36:07] <richlowe> fucking fuck. [02:36:10] <richlowe> ... uh, but phrased more politely. [02:36:25] <alanc_work> "Holy Spam Prevention Over Kill, Batman!" [02:36:30] <richlowe> alanc_work: it looks like the morons did, yes. [02:36:30] <alanc_work> sounds more polite 8-) [02:36:38] <richlowe> bug incoming. [02:37:35] <richlowe> alanc_work: happen to have a reference for johnlev's Bug asking for masking? [02:37:52] <alanc_work> I thought it was dprice? [02:38:07] <richlowe> they both wanted it, iirc johnlev filed. [02:38:54] <alanc_work> http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6498800 [02:39:03] <alanc_work> though it's still marked dispatched, not fixed [02:39:07] <richlowe> Indeed. [02:39:42] <richlowe> http://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do?bug_id=6463140 [02:39:48] <richlowe> however, went back earlier this week, and doesn't show an RE [02:40:13] <Stric> "john dot levon at sun dot com" doesn't really hide it.. I'm pretty sure spammers have the technology to break that advanced crypto ;) [02:41:05] <richlowe> there was a variety of discussion on methods. [02:42:36] <g4lt-mordant> use 3-DES, that'll learn them ;P [02:43:26] <Doc> 96% of all mail coming into sun is Spam anyway - a few extra emails isnt going to make much difference... [02:43:44] <Doc> i use double-ROT13 on everything now days [02:44:27] <alanc_work> double-ROT13? have to use at least quad-ROT13 to fool the spammers [02:44:48] <g4lt-mordant> Doc, i go tyou beat, i use QUADRUPLE, it even works on case sensitive information ;P [02:47:33] *** hily___sc has quit IRC [02:48:02] <onbot> commit by Kacheong Poon: 6497940 Wrong ASSERT() in sosctp_assoc(); 6499500 Association change event is not sent for ICMP error [02:51:49] <Doc> whois onbot [02:51:50] <Doc> blah [02:54:03] <alanc_work> richlowe: CR 6507449 Created P2 opensolaris/triage-queue b.o.o no longer displays Responsible Engineer [02:54:26] <richlowe> polite, ain't it? :) [02:54:34] *** moazamraja has joined #opensolaris [02:54:46] <Doc> perturbed? [02:55:09] <richlowe> > thrown into a state of agitated confusion [02:55:24] <Doc> i dont want my email address to be confused! [02:55:37] <alanc_work> hmm, wonder if we can subscribe onbot to the triage-queue e-mails so it can auto-announce the new bugs as they come in [02:55:49] <richlowe> alanc_work: it'd either be too many, or not enough. [02:56:46] <richlowe> 6479244 would be more helpful. :) [02:58:15] *** yongsun has joined #opensolaris [02:59:33] <moazamraja> anyone know of a libc/libC writeup? [02:59:39] <moazamraja> or some info on both [03:00:06] <alanc_work> libc: see ANSI/ISO C standard, libC: see ANSI/ISO C++ standard [03:00:25] <alanc_work> plus lots of other stuff too, but the core functionality starts there [03:00:31] <moazamraja> opensolaris ships with both? [03:00:40] <moazamraja> or does one only come with the compiler package? [03:00:55] <alanc_work> libC binaries come in Solaris - dunno about sources [03:01:20] <moazamraja> but, the Solaris group does not patch/sustain libC, right? [03:01:23] <moazamraja> the devtools group does? [03:01:34] <alanc_work> right - they maintain it and deliver to solaris [03:01:39] <moazamraja> perfect [03:01:42] <moazamraja> thats what i needed to know [03:07:20] *** MikeTLive has joined #opensolaris [03:10:00] *** rachel has quit IRC [03:10:03] *** Cyrille has quit IRC [03:10:22] *** Cyrille has joined #opensolaris [03:11:23] *** rachel has joined #opensolaris [03:16:51] *** MikeTLive has left #opensolaris [03:20:09] *** MikeE has joined #opensolaris [03:24:08] <gisburn> ugh [03:24:20] <gisburn> please please no [03:24:37] <gisburn> who had the idea that ISO C++ applications do not have to follow XPG4 ? [03:25:10] <gisburn> Using C99 enforces XPG6 [03:25:14] *** MikeTLive has joined #opensolaris [03:25:18] <gisburn> Using C++ does nothing. [03:25:21] <gisburn> crap [03:25:31] <onbot> commit by xc151355: 6501759 Ath driver could cause dhcpagent hang when the device is disconnected [03:26:28] <alanc_work> bye everyone - see you next year! [03:26:39] <richlowe> have fun. [03:27:17] <gisburn> alanc_work: merry xman! :-) [03:27:26] <gisburn> er [03:27:27] <gisburn> xmas [03:27:29] <gisburn> sorry [03:27:34] <gisburn> alanc_work: merry xmas! :-) [03:27:35] <alanc_work> I'm going to Utah - I think fun is illegal there [03:27:44] <gisburn> ?! [03:27:45] <gisburn> why ? [03:28:01] <gisburn> Do they shoot people who say "ho ho ho" like in texas ? [03:28:56] <Tpenta> I thought they'd arrest them for soliciting [03:29:01] <Tpenta> and then shoot them [03:30:10] <gisburn> heh [03:30:18] <gisburn> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah has a WARNING at the beginning. [03:30:57] <gisburn> Utah (IPA: [?jut??]) is a U.S. state located in the western United States. It was the 45th state admitted to the union, on January 4, 1896. Approximately 88% of Utah's 2,500,000 people live in an urban concentration with Salt Lake City as the center, known as the Wasatch Front. In contrast, vast expanses of the state are nearly uninhabited, making the population the sixth most urbanized... [03:30:58] <gisburn> ...in the U.S.[2] WARNING: "Fun" is illegal in Utah. People who have fun will be shot on sight. [03:31:17] *** waswas has joined #opensolaris [03:32:18] *** mega has joined #opensolaris [03:34:54] *** alanc_work has quit IRC [03:36:29] <MikeE> anyone know of a good refernce to the sparc boot process? [03:36:38] <Auralis> man boot? [03:36:57] <MikeE> Hmmm... hadn't actually thought of that :-) [03:37:31] *** mega has quit IRC [03:37:31] <MikeE> I'm interested in the "handoff" from OBP to drivers / bootblock, and then the kernel-load. jsut trying to undertand that whole mess a bit better [03:45:47] *** stevel has joined #opensolaris [03:45:47] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stevel [03:49:35] <aliquis> "It's been known for a long time that Internet Explorer will happily allow any Web site to steal data that users have recently cut-and-pasted or copied into the Windows 'clipboard' data storage area. Well, now it looks like Microsoft has finally decided that this 'feature' was probably ill-advised, according to The Washington Post's Security Fix blog. IE7 throws up a warning asking whether users really want to let a site filch their clipboard data (Fire [03:49:36] <stevel> richlowe: 6507449 is known... [03:49:37] <aliquis> nice "feature" [03:49:50] <stevel> the b.o.o. folks decided they didn't have time to implement a proper anti-spam thing [03:50:01] <stevel> so they opted to mask it entirely until they get something proper [03:50:46] <richlowe> Then it'll server as a great reminder. [03:50:56] <richlowe> since their last change took them a tad more than a year, didn't it? :) [03:51:07] <richlowe> s/r / / [03:51:37] <stevel> :-P [03:51:44] <stevel> i don't think it was *quite* that long [03:52:17] <g4lt-mordant> yeah, it only took 36*3* days [03:52:28] <gisburn> seems the people in Utah did not like my "fun" change: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utah&diff=95851069&oldid=95849353 [03:53:09] *** halton has joined #opensolaris [03:53:22] <stevel> sigh [03:53:29] <stevel> of all the things my beagles had to find, why did it have to be the peanut butter [03:53:38] <stevel> and of all the places they had to eat it.... why did it have to be my bed [03:54:24] <Tpenta> ROFL [03:55:17] <Tpenta> could have been worse [03:55:24] <Tpenta> it could have happened while you were away [03:55:31] <gisburn> no [03:55:57] <stevel> tpenta: it did... happened today while i was out [03:56:00] <gisburn> s/beagle/komodo dragons/ would be worse since they would've picked a deer instead of the peanut butter. [03:56:03] <stevel> they got into the fridge [03:56:06] *** jamesd has quit IRC [03:56:46] <Tpenta> oh dear [03:56:51] <stevel> got the dried mushrooms, leftover stinky tofu (that one is fun to cleanup), a pitcher of tea, garlic, peanut butter, garlic butter spread (that one's fun too), 3 eggs, and a bunch of packets of ramen [03:56:56] <Tpenta> and it's not really wash the sheets and hang them out to dry weather [03:57:06] <stevel> thankfully we have a drier [03:57:19] <stevel> s/drier/dryer/ [03:57:42] <stevel> ... and then to top it off, they decided that eating all this newfound bounty in the kitchen wasn't enough [03:57:47] <stevel> they had to take it into various rooms of the house [03:57:47] <gisburn> stevel: seriouly: the beagles ate the garlic ? [03:58:00] <stevel> how the @#)$(*@#$ does a beagle carry a *raw* egg to another room and then decide to bite into it [03:58:04] *** yippi has quit IRC [03:58:21] <richlowe> stevel: carefully. [03:58:38] <stevel> and one of them somehow managed to tip a chair over, jump from there to the fireplace mantle, and then from there onto the top of our piano [03:58:51] <stevel> so he's left scratches all over the piano [03:58:52] <gisburn> stevel: instinct. Our cats do the same. Even the dragon puppies I raised did the same - grab foodm drag it into an edge and swallow it there. [03:59:11] <stevel> which, btw, is a $35,000 piano. so that's gonna be probably about $500-$700 to repair the finish on that [03:59:22] <richlowe> ouch. [03:59:23] <gisburn> ugh [03:59:37] <stevel> and of course... what do dogs do after they eat and drink too much? [03:59:46] <stevel> poop and pee.... [03:59:53] <stevel> again, the kitchen wasn't good enough for that [03:59:58] <stevel> no no... they had to go on the bathmat instead [04:00:04] <Tpenta> yea, I have two dogs. this is the reason we have vinyl downstairs now instead of carpet [04:00:13] <Tpenta> the cat goes in the bath [04:00:33] <Tpenta> steve this is blog material man [04:00:41] <richlowe> oh yeah. [04:01:02] <gisburn> stevel: please blog it. [04:01:05] <gisburn> steleman_: with photos [04:01:10] <gisburn> LOTS of photos [04:01:41] <stevel> i've already cleaned up most of it, but i can take photos of the scratches [04:01:57] <stevel> and i can take photos of the two of them hiding in the corner of the living room underneath the piano cause they can tell i'm f-ing pissed at them [04:05:34] *** jamesd has joined #opensolaris [04:05:34] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o jamesd [04:07:29] *** peteh has quit IRC [04:07:30] *** mnowak_ has quit IRC [04:07:40] <gisburn> grrr [04:07:41] *** mnowak_ has joined #opensolaris [04:07:44] <gisburn> tksh still fails [04:08:10] *** peteh has joined #opensolaris [04:09:17] *** peteh has joined #opensolaris [04:10:54] <gisburn> Serious question: does anyone do TCL/TK here ? [04:15:25] *** mega has joined #opensolaris [04:19:09] *** ircminer03 has quit IRC [04:21:46] *** yongsun has quit IRC [04:25:38] *** yongsun has joined #opensolaris [04:37:46] *** crib has joined #opensolaris [04:41:17] *** crib4 has quit IRC [04:42:05] *** logic has quit IRC [04:42:08] *** logic_ has joined #opensolaris [04:51:28] *** crib- has joined #opensolaris [04:51:57] *** crib has quit IRC [04:52:12] *** crib has joined #opensolaris [04:52:14] *** lisppaste3 has joined #opensolaris [04:52:44] <gisburn> What is the correct (english) answer if someone wishes someone "Merry Christmas" ? [04:53:07] <jamesd> bah humbug [04:53:18] <gisburn> jamesd: ok [04:55:03] <stevel> gisburn: the correct response is "I'm Atheist, you sensitive prick" [04:55:18] <jamesd> that would be insensitive [04:55:28] <stevel> whoops. bad typo [04:55:39] <gisburn> stevel: I already replied with jamesd's response. [04:56:35] *** sahafeez has joined #opensolaris [04:56:45] <gisburn> what does "humbug" mean ? http://dict.leo. org has no entry... ;-( [04:57:18] *** sahafeez has quit IRC [04:57:30] * gisburn prepares the same posting for opensolaris-discuss@ [04:57:54] <jamesd> its scrooges reply to "merry christmas" in dickens' christmas carol, so its a requirement that i say it. as my last name is dickens [04:58:40] *** stevel has quit IRC [04:58:49] <gisburn> erm [04:59:06] <gisburn> jamesd: and you let me post that to by boss ? [04:59:13] <gisburn> s/by/my/ [04:59:16] <gisburn> xx@@@@!! [04:59:48] *** freakazoid0224 has quit IRC [05:00:10] *** freakazoid0223 has joined #opensolaris [05:02:01] *** freakazoid0223 has quit IRC [05:02:18] *** freakazoid0223 has joined #opensolaris [05:03:48] *** waswas has quit IRC [05:04:51] *** steleman_ has left #opensolaris [05:05:15] *** steleman has joined #opensolaris [05:05:42] <steleman> $#@)(*$&!!!! IRC [05:07:59] *** mega has quit IRC [05:11:24] *** unixconsole has joined #opensolaris [05:12:03] *** bobbyz has quit IRC [05:12:05] *** LurkinLurker has joined #opensolaris [05:17:28] <MikeE> anyone here do any compiles of some of the opensolaris internal tools/libaries? [05:22:51] <richlowe> internal in what sense? [05:23:44] <MikeE> i was looking at the wanboot.c code, and was considering some experimentation.... [05:24:11] <MikeE> I haven't done that with opensolaris, and was wondering if it was indeed possible to get to the point of creating that binary [05:25:07] <MikeE> (i've done plenty of kernel etc. compiles for "other" os-es, haven't done it with OpenSolaris yet, and I wasn't sure how straight-forward it was to compile someghing other than the kernel [05:26:24] <MikeE> is it as simple as getting an Xpress release, and some ON files, followed by a massive make-all? [05:26:49] <MikeE> (my guess is NO, but hopefully there is descent documentation as part of the ON bundles?) [05:26:54] <richlowe> http://opensolaris.org/os/community/on/devref_toc/ [05:26:57] <richlowe> :) [05:27:06] <MikeE> lets go take a look, thanks [05:27:58] <MikeE> i believe that is EXACTLY what I needed... thank you. [05:28:41] <noyb> well, Merry Christmas [05:30:44] <MikeE> not really... if I get playing with this over the break, my wife is going to kick my behind... and make it a nasty xmas. this looks like quite a time-sink :-) [05:33:41] <aliquis> jamesd: seen http://techreport.com/reviews/2006q4/athlon-65nm/index.x?pg=1 ? [05:39:37] *** nethenson has quit IRC [05:45:33] <onbot> commit by rf157361: 6485912 sun4v xt_sync timeout should report cpuid [05:46:17] *** laca has quit IRC [05:56:42] *** Destructo has joined #opensolaris [05:56:47] <Destructo> hey hey all [05:57:09] <Destructo> im at the download page.. do i really need 5 disks to get it going [05:57:47] <Tpenta> or one dvd [05:58:01] <Destructo> hmmm ok.. [05:58:14] <Destructo> damn i must have missed the dvd section [06:00:02] <Destructo> Tpenta is it possible to get The Download Manager in source and NOT RPM .. im running slackware , and we dont se RMS [06:00:04] <Destructo> RPMS [06:00:15] <Destructo> se=use [06:00:29] <Tpenta> i have no idea as i dont use it [06:02:17] *** gm152 has quit IRC [06:02:32] <Destructo> https://sdlc6b.sun.com/ECom/EComActionServlet;jsessionid=C3E5835C63DB0AB30EEB5BC95FA4F61D [06:02:57] <Destructo> Tpenta am i confused or do they want me to dload 5 dvds isos.. [06:03:11] <richlowe> separate parts of one iso. [06:03:18] <Tpenta> the dvd has been split ionto 5 parts [06:03:19] <Tpenta> like rich said [06:03:30] <Destructo> ah ok.. thaks [06:03:32] <Destructo> thanks [06:08:51] <g4lt-mordant> basically, the short answer to "is there any way I can use less CDs (or DVDs)?" is "if you have to ask, then no" [06:14:57] <Destructo> ok .. opensolaris seems like something i need. after years of slackware and freebsd , i need something like this i can run on my laptops to better myself with unix [06:17:44] <gisburn> sickness: ping! [06:17:46] <gisburn> sickness: ping! [06:18:27] *** bobbyz has joined #opensolaris [06:26:24] *** yippi has joined #opensolaris [06:27:05] *** astinus has quit IRC [06:27:24] *** astinus has joined #opensolaris [06:27:49] <gisburn> sickness: ping! 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[07:42:05] <steleman> my s10u2 box just corrupted its own boot_archive and now proceeds to refuse to reboot [07:43:42] *** karrotx has joined #opensolaris [07:49:38] <sickness> gisburn: PONG! machine is up :) [07:51:41] *** bougie has quit IRC [07:52:09] <gisburn> sickness: thanks! :-) [07:57:16] *** Destructo has quit IRC [07:58:27] *** alanc has quit IRC [07:59:16] *** xushi has joined #opensolaris [08:10:17] <boyd> Hey, Tpenta [08:36:47] *** LordKing has joined #opensolaris [08:41:44] *** harry_fu has joined #opensolaris [08:47:40] *** Symmetria has joined #opensolaris [08:52:44] *** cypromis_ has joined #opensolaris [08:55:39] *** |tsoome| has quit IRC [08:56:06] *** cypromis has quit IRC [09:04:45] *** lisppaste3 has quit IRC [09:08:09] *** lisppaste3 has joined #opensolaris [09:09:03] *** boyd has quit IRC [09:11:18] *** klepplap has joined #opensolaris [09:15:36] *** |tsoome| has joined #opensolaris [09:19:08] *** cmihai has quit IRC [09:23:27] *** cmihai has joined #OpenSolaris [09:23:58] <steleman> that was not fun [09:35:46] *** simfordWFH has joined #OpenSolaris [09:37:22] *** linma` has quit IRC [09:38:47] *** yongsun has quit IRC [09:40:28] *** uebayasi has quit IRC [09:41:55] *** simford has quit IRC [09:41:58] *** yongsun has joined #opensolaris [09:46:23] *** Vanuatoo has joined #opensolaris [09:52:21] *** Odin- has quit IRC [09:52:58] *** dunc has quit IRC [09:54:00] *** ShadowHntr has quit IRC [09:55:42] *** qdk has quit IRC [09:59:45] *** Odin- has joined #opensolaris [10:01:23] *** lloy0706 has joined #opensolaris [10:02:03] <lloy0706> I've installed some new memory and now Eclipse is segfaulting [10:04:00] <cmihai> Is this x86 or SPARC? [10:04:07] <lloy0706> x86 [10:04:11] <PerterB> more importantly, is it ECC memory or not? [10:04:12] <cmihai> Do a memtest86+ [10:04:18] <lloy0706> Ok [10:04:30] <lloy0706> Seriously, the monitor changed and the memory changed. [10:04:41] <lloy0706> I've decided that monitors shouldn't make Eclipse fail. [10:04:44] <cmihai> I don't care about the monitor and neither should you. [10:04:44] <lloy0706> But memory might. [10:04:55] <PerterB> seriously, run memtest :) [10:05:09] <PerterB> bad memory can do very bad things to your system [10:05:19] <cmihai> It's even more fun with onboard video :) [10:05:30] <lloy0706> Video isn't onboard [10:05:46] <cmihai> That uses shared memory and you may think you're on drugs or something :09 [10:06:04] <lloy0706> Anyone it's kind of annoying. [10:06:19] <PerterB> cmihai: I've had the memory in a video card start to fail like that... very trippy (weird pink patterns overlaying stuff) [10:06:28] <lloy0706> Should I report the fault to Solaris lists or Eclipse?? [10:06:37] <cmihai> lloy0706: it's YOUR FAULT [10:06:39] <PerterB> not if it's a hardware problem, no [10:06:40] <cmihai> BAD RAM [10:06:58] <cmihai> PerterB: yeah, had the issue here too. Quite.. interesting. [10:07:08] <cmihai> Anyway, I've solved my "Solaris only sees 3306MB RAM" issue [10:07:11] <lloy0706> Sorry, if installing RAM causes Eclipse but nothing else to fail in Solaris.... [10:07:28] <lloy0706> Then I hate to say it, I really am not too confident with Solaris. [10:07:30] *** yongsun has quit IRC [10:07:48] <lloy0706> RAM should work. I have two gigabyte sticks and 1.5 of them used. [10:07:52] <delewis> lloy0706, consider how many pages need to be paged in when you start Eclipse. [10:08:01] <PerterB> Are you sure nothing else is failing? Try running a large compilation or something [10:08:08] <lloy0706> delewis: Netbeans works and it pages MORE. [10:08:20] <delewis> then it's probably an Eclipse problem [10:08:23] <delewis> but as other have suggested [10:08:26] <PerterB> and just run the fricking memtest to eliminate bthat possibility [10:08:30] <delewis> run some diagnostic software like memtest or SunVTS. [10:08:31] <lloy0706> Indeed. [10:08:38] <lloy0706> What's the easiest way to run memtest... [10:08:44] <lloy0706> I have Solaris only installed. [10:08:57] <delewis> google for it. [10:08:59] <PerterB> download it, burn a CD and boot that (it's standalone, doesn't need an OS) [10:09:01] <cmihai> Download it. [10:09:02] <delewis> or you could use SunVTS. [10:09:17] *** linma` has joined #opensolaris [10:09:18] <delewis> which won't necessarily be as accurate, but very probable. [10:09:29] <lloy0706> Ok, thanks. [10:09:43] <delewis> that is in referencing the blocks of memory that are corrupt. [10:09:44] <lloy0706> delewis: I would have googled for it if I wanted an impersonal robot's answer. [10:09:58] *** Error_404 has joined #opensolaris [10:10:02] <delewis> lloy0706, no, you just wanted to waste our time. [10:10:07] <Error_404> heyo [10:10:50] <lloy0706> delewis: No, I was in an interactive chat channel and asked a question. [10:11:01] <lloy0706> delewis: [10:11:04] <lloy0706> bah [10:11:23] <lloy0706> delewis: I see you have a problem with talking in channels. That are in an Internet Relay Chat. [10:11:25] * lloy0706 sigh [10:11:37] <delewis> lloy0706, no, you misunderstand the purpose of an IRC channel. [10:11:46] <delewis> you were promptly pointed in the right direction -- memtest [10:11:55] <delewis> then you could've found documentation for it to answer your question. [10:12:14] <lloy0706> delewis: So instead of changing mediums (google is not the same as IRC) I simply asked about it. [10:12:19] <lloy0706> delewis: And got flamed. [10:12:55] <delewis> worse things could happen. [10:13:12] <PerterB> No, you got flamed because you seemed to take the attitude "It can't possibly be memory, solaris must be shite" [10:13:53] <delewis> when Solaris takes more care than any other operating system to ensure data is valid. [10:14:06] <delewis> sort of ironic :-) [10:14:09] <PerterB> whereas most of the people in here have probably seen the effects of dodgy memory [10:14:13] <lloy0706> PerterB: If you see someone who might think that, then you might assume that helping them to see why that might not be the case would be more appropriate... [10:14:37] <lloy0706> Rather than flaming them. [10:14:38] <delewis> lloy0706, rather, you shouldn't make such suppositions, period. [10:14:42] <PerterB> you can lead a horse to water.... [10:14:55] <lloy0706> I shall drink. [10:15:09] <lloy0706> But I think I'll find Google a much less flaming companion than here. [10:15:16] <lloy0706> I presume that memtest is what I should look for :P [10:15:23] <cmihai> memtest86+ [10:15:26] <PerterB> http://www.memtest86.com/#install [10:15:31] <lloy0706> Ta. [10:15:32] <cmihai> It's a 200k iso for christs's sake [10:15:47] <lloy0706> cmihai: That's not the point - I just wanted to know more about it. [10:15:54] <cmihai> Sigh [10:15:55] <lloy0706> cmihai: Apparently asking that here is just wrong. [10:16:11] <Tpenta> folks, come one, this is startig to be a little silly [10:16:12] <delewis> http://www.memtest86.com contains more information that we could possibly offer you. [10:16:59] <Error_404> Tpenta, my spoon is too big... [10:21:48] <PerterB> I've often wondered how often Windows gets blamed for instability that's really due to random bit errors on uncorrected PC memory [10:22:27] <delewis> even so, the fact that the majority of Windows is in kernel space doesn't help matters. :-) [10:22:32] <asyd> \_o< [10:22:35] <PerterB> aye [10:23:53] <lloy0706> Well, memtest CD is burning now. Hopefully that turns up something. [10:24:09] <Tpenta> good luck [10:24:37] <lloy0706> I'm honestly not trying to be difficult or annoying but please understand that I am trying. [10:24:55] <lloy0706> Anyway, reboot for me! [10:25:04] *** lloy0706 has quit IRC [10:25:24] *** mnowak_ is now known as GoodKarma [10:25:47] <PerterB> if it does show errors, try re-seating the memory before writing it off as dud [10:26:06] <PerterB> oh, duh [10:31:02] *** qdk has joined #opensolaris [10:32:07] *** raph_ael has quit IRC [10:34:07] *** halton has quit IRC [10:35:36] <Tpenta> i recall jmcp having a memory error that turned out being a bent pin in one of his memory sockets [10:36:01] <delewis> ouch. [10:36:57] <Error_404> I have a recurrent memory error on account of a single memory socket in bank0 being bad [10:37:05] <Error_404> i'd just not use the bank, but then the machine won't boot [10:40:50] *** raph_ael has joined #opensolaris [10:41:03] <Tpenta> i think jmcp had the board replaced under warranty [10:41:10] <Tpenta> it was an ultra 20 [10:41:51] <raph_ael> hello [10:41:58] <Error_404> this is a U2.... it's warranty expired a decade ago [10:42:22] <Tpenta> :) [10:42:23] <Tpenta> that recently? [10:42:47] <Cyrille> you sure they had warranties back then? [10:43:18] <Error_404> Cyrille, yes, we carved them in to the sides of our caves with sabre-tooth tiger bones [10:43:45] <Cyrille> ah right. [10:43:46] <Error_404> "Me Sun... give Og new magic if old magic break... grunt" [10:43:48] *** bengtf has quit IRC [10:44:29] *** dlynes_laptop has joined #opensolaris [10:45:21] <Error_404> still, the machine was worth every dollar i paid for it [10:45:28] <Error_404> which is to say, 10 [10:48:44] <LeftWing> haha [10:49:11] * delewis paid $150 for his Ultra 2 :-( [10:49:32] <delewis> then again, I got 2 socal HBAs and differential SCSI adapter, too. [10:51:55] <delewis> heh, removing an Oracle database "just got easier" with ZFS snapshots. [10:52:03] *** igorc has joined #opensolaris [10:52:31] <Error_404> delewis, or a hammer [10:53:29] * Error_404 is pragmatic [10:54:09] <delewis> hammer would work, but I sort of value my E4500. [10:56:39] <delewis> 6 49 35G 34G 100% 0:01:32 12% zone1 [10:56:44] *** igorc has left #opensolaris [10:57:08] <delewis> memory seems to be utilized. [10:57:28] <Tpenta> saw my first 'T' in a df -h the other day [10:57:37] <Error_404> well you don't bash up the whole thing... just the offending drive [10:57:42] <delewis> nothing like 14 2GB 'oracle' processes. [10:57:47] <delewis> Tpenta, nice :-) [10:58:10] <Tpenta> Filesystem size used avail capacity Mounted on [10:58:10] <Tpenta> dozer/cores 8.0T 312G 6.0T 5% /cores [10:58:23] <delewis> Error_404, that's the sort of thing they do at Los Alamos with drives. [10:58:32] <delewis> in the healthcare world, we used bulk tape erasers :-) [10:58:32] <g4lt-mordant> delewis, s/acle/rible/ [10:58:46] <delewis> god, those things did horrors to drives. [10:58:52] <delewis> and then they'd get offered to the interns [10:59:14] <delewis> "Sure, take the drive, but every bit of drive circuitry on it has been blasted with a very strong magnet" [10:59:33] <g4lt-mordant> bah, butane torch, it's the only way to make sure [11:00:23] <delewis> Tpenta, please don't tell me that filesystem is just for core dumps :-) [11:00:24] <g4lt-mordant> well, LANL has another method, but it's not very feasable feeding all the disks into a nuke test [11:00:33] <delewis> though, I can imagine some SF25Ks dumping very large core dumps :-) [11:02:31] <delewis> up to 43GB of RSS [11:02:36] <delewis> for zone1 [11:03:10] <Error_404> delewis, obviously it's a zpool.... it's not *just* for core dumps [11:04:05] <delewis> this is true\ [11:09:12] <Error_404> my zfs drive gets a new mirror when i get home [11:09:12] <Tpenta> delewis, it's where we put crashdumps [11:09:15] <Tpenta> from all over [11:09:27] *** dingo has joined #opensolaris [11:09:35] <Error_404> I salvaged a new one from somewhere it won't be misseed [11:09:36] <Error_404> missed [11:10:14] <Error_404> family machines.... good for parts... 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dingo has left #opensolaris [12:19:13] <Error_404> odd, this laptop has decided that booting solaris is not an option [12:23:44] <Error_404> it just dumps the word "GRUB" to the screen and sits there [12:24:31] <trygvis> I'd guess the MBR has gotten corrupted or something [12:25:29] <Error_404> naw, because it boots other OSes just fine [12:25:40] <Error_404> i've got a linux slice that works without issue [12:29:14] *** mega has joined #opensolaris [12:34:52] *** linma` has quit IRC [12:35:43] *** Error_404 has quit IRC [12:36:27] *** vmhobbes has joined #OpenSolaris [12:46:56] *** LordKing has quit IRC [12:59:11] <aliquis> so says grub after the menu? it if says it instead of the menu how can you boot other oses? If it's in the begining on a partition and not on mbr how can you say mbr isn't corrupted? [13:11:42] *** bougie has joined #opensolaris [13:15:33] *** TFKyle has joined #opensolaris [13:19:37] <PerterB> well, if he can load other OSes then that suggests there is some other boot manager which is still working, which suggests the mbr is ok and either the boot mananger config is wrong or the grub install on the solaris partition is damaged [13:21:33] <bougie> hello :) [13:22:20] *** jcsmith has quit IRC [13:25:37] *** mnowak has joined #opensolaris [13:26:48] *** mnowak has quit IRC [13:27:22] *** jgilje has quit IRC [13:33:47] *** cmihai has quit IRC [13:37:28] *** LurkinLurker has joined #opensolaris [13:37:30] <trygvis> anyone managed to build thunderbird 2.0b1 on solaris or nexenta? [13:40:13] <sickness> gisburn: ping! [13:40:44] *** Risky has quit IRC [13:41:24] *** kimc has joined #opensolaris [13:41:42] <kimc> good morning from page fault central [13:42:33] <kimc> i've installed b54 and it pagefaults on every _other_ bootup [13:43:11] <kimc> the dump is written to the swap space [13:43:45] *** Vanuatoo has joined #opensolaris [13:44:04] <Vanuatoo> I'm trying to set Looking glass as my gdm session [13:44:15] <Vanuatoo> I use Solaris Express 12/06 (build 52) [13:45:05] <Vanuatoo> Is there any documentation on how to do that? [13:47:16] *** klepplap has quit IRC [13:47:39] *** klepplap has joined #opensolaris [13:50:08] <Vanuatoo> Is anyone here? [13:51:12] *** Vanuatoo has left #opensolaris [13:51:45] *** Risky has joined #opensolaris [13:51:54] <kimc> i i'm here but i don't know about Looking Glass sorry [13:52:20] <kimc> so you know how to recover a core dump from swap space ? [13:53:12] <Stric> savecore [13:53:28] <kimc> trying.. [13:54:35] <kimc> ok now where is the core ? [13:54:43] <dwc-> should happen on boot automaticaly [13:54:44] <kimc> ls / [13:54:51] <dwc-> /var/crash [13:56:04] <kimc> this machine crashes on every odd bootup.. so since its booted now if i reboot it will crash [13:57:07] <kimc> is the contents of the console saveable ? [14:06:42] <lasseoe> fresh install or upgrade? [14:08:03] <kimc> fresh install [14:08:44] <kimc> we have the crash dumps [14:13:09] <kimc> is this solaris recovering from a hardware fault ? [14:16:53] <lasseoe> fmdump might tell you [14:17:04] <kimc> ok lets see.. [14:18:17] <kimc> it returns: fmdump: /var/fm/fmd/fltlog is empty [14:26:28] *** Vanuatoo has joined #opensolaris [14:26:51] *** gisburn has quit IRC [14:28:01] *** gisburn has joined #opensolaris [14:28:14] <gisburn> Grrr.... chatzilla crash [14:35:31] *** anymous has joined #opensolaris [14:37:10] *** anymous has quit IRC [14:38:51] *** switch has quit IRC [14:39:06] *** switch has joined #opensolaris [14:43:15] *** switch has quit IRC [14:43:31] *** switch has joined #opensolaris [14:43:38] *** switch has quit IRC [14:44:31] *** switch has joined #opensolaris [14:47:22] *** adam_bin has joined #opensolaris [14:53:44] *** mega has quit IRC [14:55:03] *** Cyrille has quit IRC [15:00:05] *** laca has joined #opensolaris [15:03:26] *** laca has quit IRC [15:04:20] *** uebayasi has joined #opensolaris [15:04:35] *** laca has joined #opensolaris [15:10:40] *** Symmetria has joined #opensolaris [15:23:51] *** alo has joined #opensolaris [15:24:28] <Berny_> hey folks [15:25:36] <Berny_> i just got my two x2200m2 yesterday so i was starting to play with them... connect to the sp, start the remote kvm thingy, wait forever as it's checking for the latest version (of what) [15:25:56] <Berny_> btw i'm doing this on a private network with no connection to the outside [15:26:22] <Berny_> is this a known issue (browser running on a snv box) [15:27:56] *** alobbs has quit IRC [15:29:59] *** adam_bin has quit IRC [15:52:06] *** jsubl2 has joined #opensolaris [16:01:23] *** laca has quit IRC [16:08:31] *** vmhobbes has quit IRC [16:08:44] *** vmhobbes has joined #OpenSolaris [16:13:35] *** laca has joined #opensolaris [16:18:36] *** aliquis has quit IRC [16:19:43] *** vmlemon has joined #opensolaris [16:25:10] <vmlemon> How can I get OpenSolaris to let me write to UDF disk image files? [16:26:20] <quasi> Berny_: no, it should work relatively fast [16:26:39] <quasi> (or at least it does for me) [16:26:52] <Berny_> hmm, i might try another java version [16:27:04] <Berny_> altough the doc says 1.5 is ok [16:27:29] <Berny_> .oO(though it doesn't mention firefox for sol10/opensol) [16:27:48] <quasi> works from leeenux and windos [16:27:55] <quasi> in ff2 [16:28:05] <Berny_> the two things i don't have on my notebook ;-P [16:29:12] <vmlemon> I've attached the image to a device node, but there's no UDF file system driver to actually use it [16:29:54] <quasi> Berny_: doesn't work on mac [16:30:08] <Berny_> quasi: it's an acer notebook running snv 54 ;-) [16:31:03] * Berny_ didn't expect there would be problems... [16:32:00] <quasi> Berny_: maybe using the mozilla instead? [16:32:12] <Berny_> gotta reinstall that... [16:32:29] <Berny_> kicked it since firefox is in da house ;-) [16:32:32] *** vmlemon has left #opensolaris [16:32:46] *** mega has joined #opensolaris [16:32:55] *** peteh has quit IRC [16:33:40] <Berny_> .oO(or i'll steal my wifes windoze box 8-)) [16:53:01] *** |tsoome| has quit IRC [16:53:32] *** mega has quit IRC [16:55:49] <elektronkind> mm [16:56:02] <elektronkind> only one in the office. The music gets turned up. 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[18:29:32] <stevel> i just put it on a vertical panel... and it's rotated 90 degrees which isn't too helpful [18:29:47] *** karrotx has quit IRC [18:30:04] <jsubl2> anyone gotten audio working with the nvidia mcp51 hd audio [18:30:11] <laca> hmm... i don't think so, let me check [18:30:51] <stevel> bummer [18:31:03] <jsubl2> i found James C. Liu's Weblog but can not seem to make those hints work for me [18:31:10] <laca> stevel: how would it fit on your panel if it wasn't rotated? [18:31:17] *** karrotx has joined #opensolaris [18:31:26] <stevel> laca: reduce the font? there's plenty of room [18:31:49] <laca> oh, you probably only have the time there [18:31:55] * laca has time and date [18:32:37] <stevel> ah... changing it to show only the time works [18:32:44] <stevel> putting the time & date forces it into a sideways rotation [18:32:53] <stevel> oh well, i suppose i can live without the date [18:33:12] <stevel> is there a user configurable way to change the main menu icon? it looks silly on a vertical panel :) [18:34:01] <laca> you can probably change it using a custom theme [18:35:24] *** karrotx has quit IRC [18:36:51] *** LordKing has quit IRC [18:39:57] <waswas> any zfs gurus here? [18:40:57] <jamesd> ask your question so we can figure out what level of guruness is needed [18:43:50] *** karrotx has joined #opensolaris [18:43:56] <waswas> make a new pool and filesystem, a/b. add 100 gb of files. snapshot it as a/b@test. delete 50 gb of files off of live. how the heck do you see that a/b@test holds 50gb of delta? zfs list does not show it. [18:44:12] *** klepplap has quit IRC [18:45:07] <jamesd> because snapshots hold the state of the filesystem at the time the snapshot was taken.... since 50 GB of files were deleted, the snapshot has exact copies of all the original files even though the filesystem deleted 50GB of them.. [18:45:16] <jamesd> you can roll back and have all your files still in tact. [18:45:48] <waswas> but then live shows USAGE 50gb, the delta should show that its USAGE (the amount of data it is reserving in pool for delta) is 50gb. [18:45:54] <waswas> but it does not [18:46:04] *** |tsoome| has joined #opensolaris [18:46:55] <jamesd> 100 GB of data... - 50GB of stuff you deleted is 50GB of files that only exist in the snapshot... the other 50GB exists in both so the snapshot doesn't account for it. [18:47:37] <waswas> exactly -- but the snapshot does not show 50gb used in zfs list. [18:47:41] *** rpaulo has joined #opensolaris [18:47:53] <waswas> it is "missing" in the zfs list usage [18:49:57] <jamesd> did you list snapshots? [18:50:16] <waswas> If I add 20mb of files to the live after deleting I see 20mb USED not 52gb, 20mb I would expect. [18:50:49] <waswas> zfs list and zfs list a/b@test both [18:50:54] <jamesd> well i don't think the numbers are meant to be exact, just an idea... but i could wrong. [18:51:23] <waswas> jamesd: I would understand that -- but 20mb instead of 52gb is not even close to an idea.. [18:51:50] *** qdk has joined #opensolaris [18:52:42] <jamesd> are there other snapshots? is compression enabled? [18:53:26] <waswas> imagine a live system lets say 1tb with 3000 snapshots on it that 2999 of them are minimal deltas, and one of them somewhere in the middle is a large restructure of 600gb of data. seems insane not to be able to track where that snapshot and pool usage is.. [18:53:37] *** bklang has quit IRC [18:53:41] *** bklang has joined #opensolaris [18:53:49] <waswas> on this test system no, but I first noticed the problem on one that had other snaps. compression is enabled. [18:54:31] <jamesd> if the files that are snapshoted are highly compressionable... that make the numbers apear bogus [18:54:46] <waswas> 1.12 compression level [18:56:02] <jamesd> you are of course welcome to file a bug report at bugs.opensolaris.org and see what they say or post to zfs-discuss mailing list, though i doubt you will get any responses till next year as Sun is in its winter vacation time [18:56:46] *** vmhobbes has quit IRC [18:58:05] <jamesd> on my limited testing it appears to work right.... the used collumn in the snapshot grows the more i delete on the current filesystem [18:58:58] *** jsubl2 has left #opensolaris [18:59:28] <waswas> aye -- I have (mailing list). I was hoping that there was a zfs list command flag to get a better idea and that I had been misreading the man pages [19:01:03] <waswas> jamesd: hmm, are you using opensol or released Solaris? [19:01:04] <jamesd> nothing documented, if you scour the mailing list, and blogs you can find some zdb magic that dumps out copious information [19:01:30] <jamesd> i ran that test on build 39 [19:01:46] <waswas> compression on? [19:02:09] <jamesd> yes, i didn't have enough space to create 10GB of filesystems [19:02:31] <jamesd> mkfile 1g file1 file2 file3 file4 file5 file6 file7 file8 file9 file10 [19:02:46] <jamesd> enterprise:test# zfs snapshot pool2/test@snap [19:02:46] <jamesd> enterprise:test# zfs list -r pool2/test [19:02:46] <jamesd> NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT [19:02:46] <jamesd> pool2/test 25.5K 1.85G 25.5K /pool2/test [19:02:46] <jamesd> pool2/test@snap 0 - 25.5K - [19:02:47] <jamesd> enterprise:test# rm file5 file6 file7 file8 [19:02:49] <jamesd> enterprise:test# zfs list -r pool2/test [19:02:51] <jamesd> NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT [19:02:53] <jamesd> pool2/test 49K 1.85G 25.5K /pool2/test [19:02:57] <jamesd> pool2/test@snap 23.5K - 25.5K - [19:03:09] *** rpaulo_ has quit IRC [19:03:14] <waswas> grr, yeah I have tried a bunch o zdb dumps -- problem is these fs are 8 -> 15tb and zdb grinds away for what seems like forever =) [19:03:41] <jamesd> yeap... it does a lot of work [19:04:28] <waswas> thanks for your help -- I will push ahead on the list and file a bug. have a great holiday jamesd... [19:04:38] <jamesd> you too [19:04:47] *** rpaulo_ has joined #opensolaris [19:06:40] *** ndroux has joined #opensolaris [19:06:54] *** alex-weej has joined #opensolaris [19:09:35] *** stevel has quit IRC [19:11:21] *** alex-weej has left #opensolaris [19:15:33] *** stevel has joined #opensolaris [19:15:34] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stevel [19:16:09] <stevel> laca: this is killing me.. :) where is the gnome main menu icon set? i've replaced every occurance of gnome-main-menu.{png,svg} in ~/.icons and /usr/share/icons, but it's still pulling the orange JDS one [19:20:09] *** stevel has quit IRC [19:20:40] *** stevel has joined #opensolaris [19:20:41] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stevel [19:20:48] <stevel> grrr. why does killing gnome-panel kill gaim [19:20:51] *** rpaulo has quit IRC [19:23:46] <stevel> ahhhh. gconf [19:23:47] <stevel> that'll do it nicely [19:28:00] *** miffe_ has joined #opensolaris [19:31:38] <laca> stevel: oh, yeah [19:31:50] <stevel> use_custom_icon seemed to work [19:31:51] <laca> use_custom_icon [19:31:54] <stevel> doesn't work for the trash applet though [19:32:11] *** bunker has joined #opensolaris [19:32:22] <laca> the description says it's only relevant if the object is a drawer or a menu [19:32:33] <stevel> ah. shame [19:33:04] <stevel> oh well, i can live with that one [19:42:13] *** rpaulo_ has quit IRC [19:45:50] *** rpaulo has joined #opensolaris [20:03:21] *** deather__ has quit IRC [20:03:28] *** deather__ has joined #opensolaris [20:04:38] <gisburn> sweet [20:04:48] <gisburn> blogs.sun.com now lists komodo dragons [20:12:26] *** rpaulo_ has joined #opensolaris [20:19:24] <kimc> i feel as if i must have been abducted by aliens [20:19:36] *** Fish- has joined #opensolaris [20:20:23] *** Fish- is now known as Fish [20:20:28] *** ndroux has quit IRC [20:20:34] <Fish> hello [20:20:49] <gisburn> Fish: Hello [20:20:52] <gisburn> Fish: help [20:20:59] <gisburn> Fish: status [20:21:01] <gisburn> Fish: info [20:21:11] * gisburn thinks Fish is a bot [20:21:25] <kimc> experimenting with solaris resource pools, i think i've discovered a uh.. unexpected result [20:21:40] <gisburn> kimc: A kernel panic ? [20:22:05] <Fish> gisburn: I think you are a bot too [20:22:14] <gisburn> Fish: heh [20:22:19] <Fish> yes [20:22:47] <kimc> uh not exactly :) ..i made a resource pool with one processor reserved for a zone [20:22:56] <gisburn> Fish: "yes" == "yes, I [='fish'] am a bot" ? [20:23:24] <Fish> like you :) [20:23:29] <kimc> the effect this had was lasting on the machine requiring resetting the cmos [20:23:30] <gisburn> Fish: ah [20:23:32] <gisburn> Fish: ok [20:23:39] <kimc> i'm not kidding [20:24:01] <kimc> power cycling did not help [20:24:30] <gisburn> Fish: you just ruined the longstanding theory which was circeling in this channel that you're a bot because you (usually) only say "hello" [20:24:50] <gisburn> Another myth ruined... ;-( [20:25:07] <gisburn> First fairy tales and now 'Fish the bot' ... ;-( [20:25:40] <gisburn> kimc: what kind of machine do you have ? [20:26:07] <kimc> its an Asus mobo with an amd am2 processor [20:26:29] <kimc> an am2 has 2 cores [20:26:40] <gisburn> kimc: weired. [20:26:54] <kimc> processor page faults every other boot and other odd bahviour [20:27:08] <gisburn> kimc: please email opensolaris-discuss@ about that. And CC: Casper Dik, please.... [20:27:11] <kimc> yes it is very weird [20:27:17] <kimc> ok i will [20:27:37] <kimc> i'm a little afraid people with think i'm nuts but this really happend [20:28:34] <gisburn> kimc: no, you're not nuts. If you start to babble about flying komodo dragons with turbofan engines strapped in their backs - then you may be nuts. But only a little. [20:28:48] <gisburn> s/in their/on their/ [20:29:11] <kimc> heh..dunno what happens hardware-wise when using the [relatively] new resource pools but this had a lasting effect on this mobo/processor [20:29:36] *** salmandr has joined #opensolaris [20:30:17] *** rpaulo has quit IRC [20:31:09] <kimc> i guess the message is: don't mess around with: [20:31:13] <kimc> poolcfg -c 'create pset email-pset (uint pset.min=1;uint pset.max=1)' [20:31:38] <kimc> or you can cause some bigtime hardware problems [20:32:49] <kimc> that'l require moving the cmos reset jumper to the 'reset' position [20:32:59] <gisburn> hurray [20:33:05] *** onbot has quit IRC [20:33:06] <gisburn> my first kernel panic for today [20:33:09] *** onbot has joined #opensolaris [20:33:12] <kimc> beautiful [20:33:25] <gisburn> kimc: not really [20:33:48] <gisburn> kimc: I am getting this via SCTP+IPv6 addresses [20:33:55] <kimc> at least it didn't leave a 'lasting impression' on your machine :) [20:34:11] <gisburn> kimc: I am not sure. I am at OBP level right now. [20:34:59] <stevel> oops [20:35:01] * gisburn makes another entry in his list of bugs to file once ksh93 lands [20:35:02] <stevel> i flooded onbot [20:35:03] <stevel> sorry [20:35:24] <gisburn> stevel: flooded how ? via the hg bridge ? [20:35:28] <stevel> yeah [20:35:39] <gisburn> stevel: that's onbot's fault. [20:35:46] <gisburn> stevel: who owns the bot ? [20:36:03] <stevel> movement [20:36:23] <gisburn> stevel: you can avoid that prolbem via adding a flush()+delay for each of the annoucement messages. [20:37:56] <gisburn> who owns sctp in the solaris kernel ? [20:40:05] <gisburn> is james carlson around ? [20:42:22] *** qdk has quit IRC [20:55:04] <onbot> commit by Ethindra Ramamurthy: 6418949 sad version assertion tripped by ordinary user [21:04:34] <gisburn> Poor sad "version" ... [21:07:55] <gisburn> (ok, dumb joke, maybe the dumbest one of the month) [21:13:47] * gisburn reboots his netgear DSL modem... 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[22:16:56] <gisburn> lasseoe: AFAIK Niagara2 network chip [22:20:01] <lasseoe> gisburn, oh ok [22:20:20] <lasseoe> based on Nividia perhaps ? [22:20:25] <lasseoe> (nge) [22:20:34] <pismo> I'm having trouble enabling my NIC. It is supported and is shown when I run prtconf -vD [22:20:58] <lasseoe> pismo: which nic? [22:21:09] <pismo> An AsanteFast 10/100 PCI [22:21:20] <lasseoe> wtf is that :) [22:21:22] <lasseoe> Realtek ? [22:21:25] <pismo> Asante [22:21:33] <lasseoe> never heard of it [22:21:38] <pismo> it's older :) [22:21:57] <pismo> it's in the HCL [22:22:20] <pismo> and the system does show it, but it's not bound to a driver [22:23:02] <lasseoe> which driver is it? [22:23:25] <pismo> I think they said it used the DEC [22:23:45] <lasseoe> then find out what the DEC driver is called [22:24:11] <pismo> I think it's Tulip [22:24:32] <pismo> well that's the chipset [22:26:24] * gisburn waits for the T3N_ta_cle chipset support [22:27:17] <gisburn> (ok, another stupid joke) [22:27:26] <gisburn> does anyone have better jokes ? [22:28:37] <jamesd> how many kismodo dragons does it take to change a light bulb? [22:28:52] *** douglas1 has joined #opensolaris [22:29:05] *** Mazon is now known as mazon [22:29:17] <gisburn> jamesd: s/kismodo/komodo/ [22:29:53] <gisburn> jamesd: 10 ? 10 which threaten a human to be eaten alive unless he/she changes the bulb ? [22:29:58] <douglas1> Is the iscsi target in opensolaris available for linux? [22:30:08] <BadKarma> I guess it takes more of tham than blondies for the same thing [22:30:47] <jamesd> i guess thats an answer as good as any. [22:33:10] <Error_404> douglas1, sorry, what? [22:34:41] <douglas1> I was just wondering if the iscsi target software that is in opensolaris has been ported over to linux [22:35:03] <douglas1> it appears the solaris version is more advanced than linux's iscsi target [22:35:22] <Error_404> you'll find that quite frequently [22:35:29] <douglas1> heh [22:35:52] <Error_404> & no, it hasn't been ported over [22:35:58] <Error_404> the GPL prevents it [22:36:10] <douglas1> oh? [22:36:15] <pismo> does anyone have a recommendation for a cheap NIC for Solaris? [22:36:59] <BadKarma> jamesd: or just 1 female [22:37:16] <BadKarma> you know how lizards work, dont you? [22:37:48] <boyd> Is the iSCSI target kernel resident? If not, I don't think the GPL would prevent it [22:38:02] <gisburn> BadKarma: our you just use of 12y old nice who will repair the lamp and the goes off and repairs the rest of your house's electricity system if she thinks it's required... :-) [22:38:08] *** pismo has quit IRC [22:38:11] <Error_404> I thought it was, but I could be wrong [22:38:21] <gisburn> BadKarma: well,I raised two komodo dragon puppies. [22:38:23] <douglas1> the initiator, if there is one, would be [22:38:24] <BadKarma> go rent "Jurrasic Park I II and III" watch em and get back to me tomorrow :) [22:38:33] <boyd> douglas1: There is. It is. [22:38:51] <sickness> http://passivemode.net/updates/2006/9/22/atm-master-passwords-list.html <- lol [22:38:56] <boyd> The NFs server is kernel resident. Dunno about the iSCSI target [22:39:31] <BadKarma> right, gisburn.... if your 12 yr old son can't fix something, have his 8 yr old sister show him how [22:39:42] <douglas1> I did have to install a kernel module for iscsi-target on linux [22:40:14] <gisburn> BadKarma: It is not my son, it's my sisters daughter. and she is very talented in electronics and compute science, far ahead of her age. [22:40:57] <gisburn> up to the point that she "Borrowed" half my electronics equipment and I doubt I don't see it back soon. [22:41:05] <gisburn> half her room looks like a tech lab. [22:41:45] <gisburn> this year's wishlist included a "better" oscilloscope with higher fequency range and more sample memory [22:42:36] <gisburn> somehow my old 50MHz Tektronic thing is not good enougth... ;-/ [22:44:35] <gisburn> s/I doubt I don't see it back soon./I doubt I will see it back soon./ [22:49:17] <BadKarma> gisburn: naaa,...don't get mi wrong, that was a kind of the ancient wisdom for today :) [22:50:47] <BadKarma> cool, I was also like that...before I have discovered the INTERNET! [22:50:53] <BadKarma> (it's sad I know) [22:53:38] *** yarihm has joined #OpenSolaris [23:10:04] <onbot> commit by Jack A Schwartz: 6507462 N2 PIU bit error performance counters should be enabled at attach time [23:12:55] *** bougie has quit IRC [23:13:05] *** jsubl2 has left #opensolaris [23:15:45] *** Tpenta has joined #opensolaris [23:17:17] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Tpenta [23:17:47] <Error_404> hey Tpenta [23:18:13] <Tpenta> today is the last day of my daughters modelling competition. [23:18:14] <Tpenta> /me pleads for folks to visit his website and vote for her [23:18:27] <Tpenta> wont be around much today, running around getting house ready for christmas [23:18:34] <Tpenta> s/websit/blog [23:19:55] <moazamraja> anyone here have experience with jumpstarting the X2100 box? [23:20:05] <lasseoe> regular PXE [23:20:07] <moazamraja> we've set the bios to boot via network...so it'll jumpstart... [23:20:09] <moazamraja> that works fine [23:20:21] <moazamraja> but, at a certain point in the jumpstart process, there is a reboot [23:20:33] <moazamraja> at which point it's supposed to boot from the HD image [23:20:48] <moazamraja> but since BIOS is set to boot from network, it just starts the jumpstart process all over again [23:20:54] <moazamraja> so to get around that... [23:21:08] <moazamraja> we've had to set boot settings to Disk first, then Network [23:21:19] <moazamraja> then blow away whatever is on the disk, make it unbootable [23:21:42] <moazamraja> so that it'll boot from the network on first try (since disk has no mbr), and then during the jumpstrt reboot, it'll boot from disk [23:21:52] <moazamraja> soo...the question is...anyone have a better solution to this? [23:22:07] <lasseoe> pretty sure mine PXE boots if it doesn't find a bootable disk [23:22:14] <lasseoe> but I don't remember [23:25:29] *** pikapika has joined #opensolaris [23:26:12] <pikapika> hello [23:27:42] *** jsubl2 has joined #opensolaris [23:27:43] *** bunker has quit IRC [23:28:44] *** Yamazaki-kun has joined #opensolaris [23:30:10] *** linma has quit IRC [23:30:51] *** linma has joined #opensolaris [23:34:34] <onbot> commit by vn83148: 6465819 libldom.so does not wait long enough for zeus available; 6476548 fmd not replaying page retirement fault events at startup after LDOM FMA changes [23:35:42] *** waswas has quit IRC [23:38:15] *** javiolo has joined #opensolaris [23:45:40] *** Error_404 has quit IRC [23:48:03] *** Error_404 has joined #opensolaris [23:49:17] *** chopra has joined #opensolaris [23:53:55] *** miffe_ has left #opensolaris [23:56:48] <Error_404> anyone know how the dvdrom's connected in an x2100/x2200 ?