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[00:15:01] * lloy0076 sigh
[00:15:37] <lloy0076> The latest BFU has made my gaim totally unstable and almost unusable AND all the bug reports that are probably the cause are DUPLICATES but they're not saying what they are duplicates of.
[00:15:50] <twincest> BFU broke gaim?  that's funny
[00:16:03] <lloy0076> Well, it was stable before I did a BFU :P
[00:16:14] <lloy0076> lol
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[00:44:46] <lloy0076> heh
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[00:56:34] <lloy0076> I somehow managed to get a Hello, World SWT application working.
[01:00:26] <axisys> did i hear it right in nbc4 chnl? from now on IT suppose to keep all emails and can be used againts employees in court
[01:00:43] <axisys> even deleted emails will be saved
[01:00:55] <axisys> shit.. i hope i heard it wrong
[01:01:21] <axisys> not that i have anything hide but lot of emails i like to save in my gmail account for quick search later
[01:01:23] <Auralis> knowing america, you heard not even the worst of it
[01:01:37] <axisys> Auralis: heh
[01:01:44] <alanc> one of my coworkers said he heard the same on the radio this morning
[01:01:45] <axisys> maaan
[01:01:56] <axisys> alanc: shit
[01:02:18] <axisys> i am looking for in google news to get a link so i can send it to my team for a heads up
[01:02:25] <axisys> cant find shit yet
[01:02:30] <alanc> my first thought - "Just think how many more StorageTek tape units and Thumpers with ZFS we'll have to sell to hold all that!"   8-)
[01:02:47] <stevel> alanc: lol
[01:02:53] <alanc> been drinking the marketing kool-aid too long
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[01:03:24] <axisys> alanc: but to search from them would be tough .. google desktop does it very very well but only in windows env
[01:03:25] <Auralis> axisys: http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/06/12/01/1425221.shtml
[01:03:59] <axisys> gds is the only thing i am missing ever since i moved away from windows a year ago
[01:04:03] <stevel> In April the Supreme Court began requiring companies and other entities involved in federal litigation to produce 'electronically stored information' as part of the discovery process of a trial."
[01:04:09] <stevel> only companies involved in federal litigation
[01:04:12] <stevel> not all companies
[01:04:48] <axisys> stevel: for now ;-)
[01:05:09] <dwc-> if you're following a company's document retention policy, you're fine
[01:05:27] <axisys> stevel: i am sure there is a fine print in every company saying this but may not be actively practiced yet
[01:05:44] <dwc-> certain industries, all communication is already required to be logged and stored (financial, etc.)
[01:05:55] <stevel> Sun should sue every company in the Fortune 500, and then offer to sell 'em Thumpers & StorageTek equipment
[01:05:59] <axisys> dwc-: that is pretty broad. almost a coffee brk would be a violation or stretch for that matter
[01:06:38] <dwc-> yup
[01:06:56] <axisys> forget about pee brk altogether
[01:07:24] <dwc-> what, you violate the men's code of ethics by talking in the bathroom/
[01:07:33] <dwc-> or whatever it is
[01:07:36] <alanc> we'll draw the line at urine retention policies
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[01:11:15] <axisys> alanc: hehe
[01:11:24] <axisys> alanc: maaan.. what is next?
[01:12:07] <alanc> though I imagine somewhere there is a warehouse of old urine samples saved for evidence of past drug tests
[01:12:13] <axisys> i need to start using SSH to home to browse or irc
[01:12:28] <axisys> alanc: hehe.. thats a good one
[01:12:48] <axisys> i am home now so i am good (really???)
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[02:03:28] <alanc> hmm, the motion sensor lights in the hall just went out - guess I'm the last one here today
[02:04:27] <dwc-> good heavens, it's 5:00 on a friday!
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[02:12:52] <moazamraja> *yawwwwn*
[02:13:14] <jbk> heh
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[03:58:29] <gisburn> ok...
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[03:59:24] <gisburn> ... I am slow on land, swift in water, my armor is green and strong and I taste good as soup... what am I ?
[03:59:55] <Auralis> turtle
[04:00:02] <gisburn> grumpf
[04:00:04] <Auralis> sea urtle to be exact
[04:00:07] <mustang> a turtle or an amphibious landing vehicle
[04:00:09] <gisburn> Auralis: yeah
[04:01:45] <gisburn> mustang: I am sure you do not want to eat a amphibious landing vehicle
[04:02:20] <gisburn> mustang: and the taste will likely be... not pretty... =:-)
[04:02:27] <jbk> perhaps he needs some iron in his diet
[04:02:30] <mustang> mmmmm. diesel.
[04:04:30] <gisburn> Ok...
[04:05:43] <gisburn> ... I was swift in the air, one of the fastest but slow just with my turbojet. No russian rocket caught me. What am I ?
[04:06:07] <gisburn> (ok, this one is dumb, the thing can't speak)
[04:06:22] <Auralis> blackbird?
[04:06:41] <gisburn> *tilt*
[04:06:44] <gisburn> Auralis: yes
[04:06:54] <gisburn> Auralis: WTF did you know that ?
[04:07:06] <gisburn> e.g. which detail ?
[04:07:11] <Auralis> the rockets
[04:07:23] <gisburn> ;-/
[04:07:29] <Auralis> i was leanding towards the u2 first, but one got shot down,
[04:07:54] <gisburn> I thought the turbojet thing may be "too much" hinting.
[04:08:47] <gisburn> (J58 used by A-12, YF-12 and RS/SR-71 is a hybrid turbojet/ramjet design where the turbojet can't even accerlated the plane to mach 0.8 in level flight)
[04:09:42] <jbk> heh.. i still like how it leaks fuel while on the ground
[04:10:04] <jbk> but when flying, the heat causes stuff to expand to seal the joints
[04:10:50] <jbk> one of my profs in college worked on a few of them, trying to fix the unstart problem
[04:11:39] <gisburn> jbk: does the prof. still live ?
[04:11:50] <jbk> dunno.. been a few years
[04:11:58] <jbk> interesting problem though..
[04:12:16] <gisburn> jbk: our material science people have a small pet project running here... a super-small turbofan.
[04:12:28] <jbk> basically the supersonic air has to be slowed to subsonic speeds before going through the jets
[04:12:30] <gisburn> actually likely the smallest turbofan ever build.
[04:12:47] <jbk> so in front of the jet is a super/subsonic barrier which can move around
[04:13:10] <jbk> if it gets too far in front of the engine, air just bypasses the enging and it stalls, causing a 'slight' yaw problem :)
[04:13:26] <gisburn> mhhh....
[04:13:38] <gisburn> jbk: I guess you get a double-yaw problem soon.
[04:14:06] <jbk> the normal procedure is to kill both engines, then restart them
[04:14:31] <gisburn> jbk: e.g. one engine goes out, the machine turns in the direction of the failed engine and then the other will fail because the air flow gets interrupted.
[04:15:06] <gisburn> jbk: this is why the J79 used on the phantom has variable stator blades AFAIK
[04:15:35] <gisburn> jbk: e.g. to compensate pressure changes more quickly without risking a flame-out.
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[04:16:40] <gisburn> jbk: we've solved a similar problem for our turbofan by adding small "guilines" between compressor and turbine which basically seperate the airflow into smaller chunks, one for each injector.
[04:17:22] <gisburn> jbk: therefore one failure doesn't "spread" to the others immediately, solving the problem of "hard" starts of the reheat system.
[04:17:28] <jbk> i honestly can't remember what he did to try to fix it..
[04:18:12] <gisburn> jbk: I guess somehow adjusting the airflow regulators based on sensor input + computer... :-)
[04:18:17] <gisburn> (basically)
[04:18:18] <jbk> other than it being some sort of control system, and having been a 1st semester freshman, not quite getting all the math as it related to the operation of the plane
[04:19:26] <gisburn> jbk: I am somewhat stunned that something classified (I guess B+ ?) was discussed in a college...
[04:19:55] <jbk> well that part of it was unclassified
[04:20:21] <gisburn> do you know whic year was that ?
[04:20:31] <jbk> um.. 1996
[04:21:08] <gisburn> erm
[04:21:10] <gisburn> ok
[04:21:59] <gisburn> jbk: the project was AFAIK secret until mid-196x and then it's existence was announced to the public.
[04:22:31] <jbk> i don't know when it was declassified
[04:23:11] <gisburn> jbk: declassified != announced to the public... most of the stuff is still classified.
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[04:27:24] <gisburn> "Dear valued eBay Inc. member: "
[04:27:31] * gisburn hates this spam...
[04:27:41] <gisburn> Why can't they write the truth ?
[04:28:37] <gisburn> "Hey, valued customer, give us your ebay password since we want all your money and that of your wife, kids, family and coworkers. NOW. GIVE US YOUR MONEY... OR..."
[04:29:26] <gisburn> donkeys
[04:29:43] <djgregor__> I want donkeys!
[04:29:46] * gisburn lacks propper curse words...
[04:29:59] <gisburn> donkeyheads ?
[04:30:02] <gisburn> no.
[04:30:05] <djgregor__> gisburn: probably not a bad thing to lack
[04:31:03] <gisburn> What is the worse insult and offense in english ?
[04:31:15] <gisburn> s/worse/worst/
[04:31:42] <Stric> "politician"
[04:32:06] <gisburn> Stric: something more colorfull, please
[04:34:39] * gisburn wonders whether this channel either lacks the imagination or the political correctness doesn't allow to write these things on irc... ;-(
[04:37:58] * gisburn likes the curse his youngest niece uses... rougthly translated "... damn mutated flying chickenshit with spaghetti ..."
[04:40:11] * gisburn makes tea...
[04:40:16] <gisburn> ... without the chickenthing
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[04:40:56] <Error_404> Stric: mother-raping shit fucker
[04:41:00] <Error_404> *shrug*
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[04:44:10] <gisburn> Error_404: ok...
[04:44:28] <gisburn> Error_404: grandmother-raping shit fucker-politican ?
[04:44:56] <Error_404> throw "lawyer" and "union" in there somewhere, you're set
[04:45:03] <gisburn> Grrr
[04:45:05] <gisburn> Union
[04:45:17] <gisburn> I had my experience with them...
[04:45:32] <gisburn> (the US one)
[04:48:59] <djgregor__> this reminds me of a certain line from the South Park Movie....
[04:49:10] * gisburn once borrowed a under-thing from the Sun booth to move heavy things around on the LinuxWorld fair in boston. It turned out the thing had a label from the union on it.
[04:49:19] * gisburn was nearly beaten to death
[04:51:59] <djgregor__> gisburn: at least it wasn't in Chicago.... you'd end up with cement boots at the bottom of Lake Michigan
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[04:52:29] <djgregor__> gisburn: when were you at the LinuxWorld in Boston?  I was there last year, I think.
[04:54:03] <gisburn> djgregor__: per http://gravityboy.livejournal.com/10489.html it was 2005
[04:58:02] <djgregor__> Cool.  Same here.  I was helping man the OpenNMS booth in the .org section
[04:58:39] <Gadzooks> ops! :< trips over the cord to the Black Widow II
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[05:04:37] <djgregor__> gisburn: heh... this is one of the other OpenNMS guys: http://people.debian.org/~dnusinow/LinuxWorld/022_Raffle4.jpg
[05:04:58] <djgregor__> And this guy, too: http://people.debian.org/~dnusinow/LinuxWorld/024_Raffle6.jpg
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[05:11:56] <kAv_> did you guys read the article in register?
[05:12:03] <kAv_> gnusolaris gpl one
[05:17:48] <Error_404> bunch of snakes the GPL types are...
[05:18:14] <Error_404> sun releases java as GPL & everyone goes in to a frenzy about "when's solaris going to be GPL?"
[05:18:46] <kAv_> lol
[05:18:56] <kAv_> well gpl3 they say now
[05:19:01] <kAv_> who knows
[05:19:10] <kAv_> i dont think gpl2 is a good thing anyway
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[05:20:50] <Error_404> there are enough people who hate GPL that you can more or less expect a fork if they do it
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[05:22:11] <Error_404> it's not in anyones (except maybe RMS) best interest to make solaris  GPL
[05:22:45] <twincest> it would be in the interest of GPL software
[05:23:24] <Auralis> i think it would prolly lead to a solaris vs linux situation
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[05:28:27] <Error_404> how so?
[05:28:45] <Aghaster> Hi error_404
[05:28:53] <Error_404> Linux would steal Solaris' features, and the only thing solaris would have going for it is it's not crap
[05:29:07] <Error_404> hey Aghaster
[05:29:21] <Aghaster> what are you saying? linux stealing solaris features?
[05:29:24] <Auralis> and solaris would gain acess to lots of hardware drivers
[05:29:32] <Auralis> and each accusing the other of ripping
[05:30:02] <Aghaster> oh well, open source is about working collectively, not against each other ;)
[05:31:06] <jamesd> auralis most of the drivers are allready availible via  *bsd
[05:31:44] <Aghaster> just a question, how do I create a user account?
[05:31:56] <Error_404> useradd
[05:32:00] <rbrown> useradd -g sysadmin -s /usr/bin/bash -d /export/home/user -m user
[05:32:18] <Aghaster> k
[05:32:23] <Aghaster> same as linux, I see.
[05:33:15] <Aghaster> how can I list available groups?
[05:33:24] <Error_404> cat /etc/groups
[05:34:23] <Aghaster> /etc/group? there is not /etc/groups
[05:34:37] <twincest> yes
[05:34:44] <jamesd> Aghaster, http://uadmin.blogspot.com/2005/02/youre-never-far-from-home.html
[05:34:51] <Error_404> yes, sorry
[05:35:19] <Aghaster> I have opensolaris working on my PC
[05:35:24] <Aghaster> with the internet working :)
[05:35:33] <Aghaster> I bought a cheap DFE-538TX this week
[05:36:12] <Aghaster> but after all, maybe my first ethernet adapter is working, I'll have to try it again - I didn't have dns enabled
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[05:37:37] <Aghaster> what groups should I put my user account in?
[05:38:05] <nbkk6fo_> sysadmin or staff
[05:38:09] <nbkk6fo_> it dont really matter
[05:38:14] <nbkk6fo_> or you can create a new group
[05:38:25] <nbkk6fo_> none of those groups have any real privs by default
[05:39:12] <Aghaster> k
[05:44:17] <Aghaster> Error_404: how do i set a password for the account?
[05:44:26] <Error_404> passwd
[05:45:10] <Error_404> like... # passwd <username>
[05:45:49] <Aghaster> working now, in my user account :P
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[05:47:04] <Aghaster> I edited a .profile to change my path for my root account in /, where should I put a .profile for my root account?
[05:47:09] <Aghaster> in my home directory?
[05:48:05] <Aghaster> meh, if I do su in my user account and then echo $PATH, the path is incomplete.
[05:48:13] <twincest> edit /etc/default/su
[05:48:21] <twincest> and set SUPATH
[05:48:51] <Aghaster> good. and there's also PATH in there.
[05:48:52] <Aghaster> nice.
[05:49:21] <twincest> there's also an su switch to make it a login shell, but i never use it so i forget what it is.  "su -" maybe
[05:49:30] <twincest> for a login shell it'll read login profile files
[05:49:50] <Auralis> yes, su -
[05:49:52] <Aghaster> k
[05:49:59] <ProfMikey> p/n
[05:50:02] <ProfMikey> err
[05:50:03] <ProfMikey> morn
[06:16:09] <jbk> ok this is intersting
[06:16:23] <jbk> using the latest vermillion bits
[06:16:28] <jbk> inserting a cd
[06:16:44] <jbk> all the info comes up in some asian language (not sure which)
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[07:19:11] <twincest> why can't i compile _XOPEN_SOURCE=600 with a C++ compiler?
[07:19:22] <twincest> is this some inherent limitation in SUS or a solaris limitation?
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[08:32:45] <jbalint> how can i list open filehandles for a process?
[08:34:16] <twincest> install lsof
[08:34:52] <richlowe> pfiles
[08:35:23] <jbalint> ok. also, I am trying to use opensnoop for dtrace toolkit, but it's not showing any results, even on a shell process doing, cat, etc
[08:36:28] <jbalint> s/for/from/
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[09:05:02] * printk cheers on zfs
[09:05:08] <printk> such a cool thing :)
[09:10:41] <trygvis> :)
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[10:21:24] <trygvis> morning
[10:21:30] <sickness> morning
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[10:39:23] <Fish> hello
[10:39:29] <trygvis> hi
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[11:28:13] <_william_> hi all
[11:28:24] <trygvis> hi
[11:30:55] <jteo> greetings
[11:31:13] <_william_> hi jteo trygvis
[11:31:17] <_william_> how are you guys ?
[11:38:16] <jteo> _william_, i'm fine. you?
[11:39:58] <_william_> fine it's week end :)
[11:40:07] <_william_> trying to fix some bugs in my packages ;)
[11:40:15] <jteo> _william_, :)
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[12:36:47] * Gr|ffous yawns. Loudly.
[12:37:26] <Gr|ffous> after battling wine for 6 hours, I'm getting desperate. How well does wine run on solaris? I have to assume worse then linux right?
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[12:48:17] <lloy0076> Might it be worth putting effort into making the use of SWT on (Open) Solaris a little easier than having to finally work out that "borrowing" Eclipse's SWT build and dynamically linked objects and putting them in the right place...?
[12:48:31] <lloy0076> ...which is what I finally managed to work out how to do.
[12:50:28] <Gr|ffous> good stuff lloy
[12:50:51] <Gr|ffous> I'm still too retarded to work out how to compile azereus 2.5 on solaris
[12:51:21] <cmihai> Gr|ffous: wine only runs on Linux.
[12:51:26] <cmihai> Everything else is a lie!
[12:51:28] <lloy0076> Gr|ffous: My first incarnation of SWT working was from an Azureus build.
[12:51:41] * lloy0076 kicks epic
[12:51:44] <cmihai> And Azureus should run fine on Solaris.
[12:51:54] <lloy0076> How the world do I turn Insert Mode ON, you STUPID irc client...
[12:51:56] * lloy0076 sigh
[12:51:57] <cmihai> But you'll need Eclipse 3.2 && friends, etc.
[12:52:08] * cmihai hugs irssi :)
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[12:52:43] <cmihai> By the way, is there a dr_dt on Solaris?
[12:52:46] <Gr|ffous> cmihai, doh, well  I guess my parents will be sticking with windows for the moment, although, how about win32 under wine, under brands, in linux, on solaris?
[12:52:47] <cmihai> Couldn't find it :)
[12:53:02] <cmihai> Gr|ffous: I'd say you're cracking up.
[12:53:07] <Gr|ffous> lloy, I don't suppose you've blogged the process?
[12:53:17] <cmihai> How about VNC-ing/RDP-ing to a Windows terminal server?
[12:53:23] <cmihai> Or at least running it in qemu...
[12:53:30] <cmihai> Or dual boot. Or another PC for that matter.
[12:53:48] <lloy0076> http://learningsolaris.com/archives/2006/03/22/azureus-solaris-x86/ - whilst it takes a while to figure out the person's english, it does work
[12:54:00] <Gr|ffous> cmihai, I've installed vmware server on their desktop, I think I'll take that route
[12:54:12] <cmihai> As in, running Solaris in VMware?
[12:54:17] <cmihai> Hah, that should  be fun.
[12:54:19] <cmihai> And slow.
[12:54:26] <Gr|ffous> cmihai, no, windows under linux
[12:54:31] <lloy0076> I've found Solaris incredibly memory hungry.
[12:55:18] <Gr|ffous> lloy, oh that's what I"m already running. It's 2.5 that I want to run
[12:55:24] * cmihai wonders how Solaris containers compare to HP-UX vPars ;\
[12:55:39] <cmihai> The bastards are now asking money  for the BASE version... damn thing was free
[12:56:03] <lloy0076> I guess what I'm saying is, is it worth prodding the Solaris community to see if they're willing to entertain a "Make it Easy to Use SWT Apps without Having to Fiddle with Eclipse and Azureus Builds" project...
[12:56:09] <Gr|ffous> cmihai, I don't know about vPars, but Lpars allow any OS, while of course containers don't. So there is an advantage on that front
[12:56:51] <cmihai> Yeah, but that's IBM
[12:58:25] <cmihai> And it's not really "any OS". Besides, one can run Loonix in BrandZ zones :]
[12:59:03] <Gr|ffous> that's only one other os though (granted, only for the moment)
[13:00:04] * Gr|ffous &
[13:00:14] <cmihai> bsdzone people aren't makeing much progress I see ;\
[13:00:17] <cmihai> erm zonebsd.
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[14:20:27] <jteo> wb jmcp
[14:20:50] <jmcp> thankyou
[14:20:53] <jmcp> it's good to be home
[14:21:18] <jengelh> yes! time for 'work from home' haha
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[14:22:28] <jteo> jmcp, just landed?
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[14:23:12] <jmcp> nope, landed a mere 2.5 hours late due to engine problems that got fixed before we departed Beijing, so I got home by around 2:30
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[14:25:07] <jteo> jmcp, ah.
[14:25:54] <jmcp> got sod-all sleep, too... due to Mr Inconsiderate in front of me who insisted on reclining all the way, and Airbus, which doesn't make seats with enough shoulder or legroom
[14:26:34] <jengelh> a mental crashlanding, so to say
[14:26:37] <jteo> heh.
[14:26:40] <jmcp> yeah
[14:29:04] <dlg> mmmsleep
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[16:35:13] <jteo> i don't sense that b.o.o. has gotten much better.
[16:44:22] <movement> it's got a bit better.
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[16:51:02] <jteo> could it have gotten any worse? ;)
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[17:47:08] <LeftWing> jteo: Yeah, it could be a Rails webapp. ;P
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[18:12:37] <jteo> LeftWing, true.
[18:22:17] * g4lt-U60 wonders why more webhosts don't also host CVS/subversion
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[18:23:31] <g4lt-U60> damn jteo_, going for the full on chinese experience? ;P
[18:23:53] <jteo_> g4lt-U60, i *am* chinese.
[18:24:18] <g4lt-U60> that would explain it
[18:28:03] <g4lt-U60> next tiem I need a duck for turducken, remind me to ping on you ;)  apparently, nobody around here thinks that duck is a farmed animal as well and there aer lawas about selling game
[18:28:21] * g4lt-U60 shoots his typist
[18:29:51] <jteo_> goodness.
[18:31:02] <g4lt-U60> either that, or I actually have to think about duck hunting :(
[18:31:20] <jteo_> :)
[18:31:40] * g4lt-U60 is addicted to warmth, which invalidates him as a duck hunter
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[19:56:34] <spity> hi
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[20:47:52] <g4lt-U60> how safe is solaris getopt() against fuzzing, or should I still put in commandline limits?
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[20:56:42] <_william_> hi Kmays
[20:56:46] <QrX> o/
[20:57:00] <_william_> hi all
[20:57:07] <delewis> g4lt-U60, I would imagine it's as safe as SUS specifies.
[20:58:03] <g4lt-U60> delewis, I just see all of these 0-days on commandline overflows and it makes me wonder if they're using getopt or waht
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[21:05:18] <Kmays> hello
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[21:44:59] <trygvis> is opensolaris.org down?
[21:46:54] <Kmays> no
[21:47:45] <trygvis> correct, my modem's dns died (again)
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[22:10:44] <Kmays> http://vorax.thebodclan.com/webstart/kumari.jnlp
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[22:52:02] <pikapika> hello
[22:52:16] <QrX> hello world
[22:53:09] <jamesd_> hi
[22:53:45] <jamesd_> stack overflow, core dumped
[22:57:42] <asyd> re jamesd_, I just read your last blog posts, hope you're ok
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[23:02:23] <jamesd_> i'm fine.. just need to get it taken care while its free...
[23:03:09] <asyd> ok
[23:04:12] <jamesd_> actually its torture.. pure torture...  being connected to the net at  9600 baud totally sucks.
[23:05:07] <dwc-> ssh -C + text browser
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[23:06:23] <asyd> do you know for how long time you need to stay at hospital ?
[23:06:48] <jamesd_> they say one more week, they don't want any complications
[23:07:03] <asyd> ok
[23:07:12] <asyd> and happy 1000th blog post to you :)
[23:07:23] <jamesd_> thanks
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[23:08:46] <asyd> I'm feel so bad too, probably a food poisoning, or a flu
[23:09:36] <jamesd_> not likely.. it was 15 pounds of bacterial infection on my thigh
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[23:11:38] <jamesd_> it was a boil that way out of control...
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[23:14:41] <_william_> hello jamesd_
[23:14:46] <_william_> how do you feel now ?
[23:14:57] <jamesd_> i feel fine..  no pain
[23:16:48] <_william_> happy to read that
[23:16:57] <jamesd_> happy to write it
[23:17:01] <_william_> it was a really big infection... 15lbs
[23:17:08] <_william_> scarry :-)
[23:17:11] <jamesd_> yeap
[23:17:22] <_william_> looks like you had an alien pup in you :)
[23:17:46] <jamesd_> my wife said it looked like i had a basketball on my thigh
[23:17:54] <_william_> :(
[23:18:04] <andersmo> ouch.
[23:18:23] <jamesd_> its gone now, have a nice 8" scar and two drains
[23:18:23] <asyd> how you got that ?
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[23:18:40] <andersmo> a helluva way to lose some weight. =)
[23:19:01] <jamesd_> got a boil that went deeper instead of draing so it infected tissue instead of popping and draining.
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[23:23:18] <Kmays> Thanks william
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[23:23:53] <_william_> you're welcome :) but why ?  i guess it is the pm about compilation ?
[23:23:55] <_william_> :)
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[23:32:25] <Kmays> ;>
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[23:33:03] <_william_> Kmays, i am trying again... i changed one settings, and it start again for 76 minutes of compilation :(
[23:33:57] <Kmays> Does it work fine for your private etst boxes?
[23:34:14] <Kmays> "test"
[23:34:44] <_william_> yes it does Kmays
[23:35:07] <_william_> i compile it without a problem, and it works well after
[23:35:26] <_william_> but on the build farm i haven't found yet the settings to compile it :(
[23:35:46] <_william_> and the funny things is that with the same settings i don't have the same errors on x86 and sparc :(
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[23:37:47] <Kmays> oh..yes...there are some oddities there..strangely they seem to be fixed in Sol 10
[23:38:45] <newpers> what is the most popular opensolaris distribution available right now?
[23:39:37] <newpers> nexenta, schillix, solaris express, ...?
[23:39:45] <nbkk6fo_> Solairs Express
[23:40:38] <newpers> thanks
[23:41:16] <_william_> Kmays, i am not really sure i'll succeed to build it under solaris 8. It is interesseting to notice that sun's release is labeled solaris8 for the sparc version, and just solaris for the x86. And so far even if it compiles under solaris 10 there is no official sun build (at least it is not on eclipse nor sun websites) for x86
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[23:44:09] <_william_> hu hu there is a difference between my boxes at home where it compiles and the build farm ... i have sfw installed !
[23:45:15] <Kmays> You can debug it on the Solaris 8 x86 build system usually... I think a script or something is out of place on the SPARC one. if you wan to be adventurous, you can set a breakpoint to the fail in Solaris 8 and then jump to the Solaris 10 buld system to pass the fail point and then switch back to Solaris 8 to finish the build. Sometimes, that works in certain cases...but not official!
[23:45:57] <_william_> actually i think it could be easier to patch the makefiles
[23:46:02] <Kmays> heheh
[23:46:17] <_william_> i am wondering if it does not only compiles with SFW
[23:46:33] <_william_> since it's build by sun, it can be a serious option to consider :)
[23:47:20] <Kmays> You could try..don;t think SFW has been updated in awhile but could work.... you using CSW for your personal build systems to build Eclipse?
[23:47:45] <_william_> Kmays, i thought i was... but it seems it was linked against SFW
[23:48:56] * _william_ is wondering why there are somes files called make_solaris.mak under the linux tree :)
[23:49:27] <onbot> commit by ae112802:  6499865 postinstall script of NIU packages missing delimiter
[23:51:32] <Kmays> What systems you using to build Eclipse at home?
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[23:52:00] <_william_> i build it with the build script provided by eclipse.org
[23:52:12] <rreet> can someone please tell me how to change the keymap in the console on x86
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[23:56:21] <_william_> i am going to check my PKG_CONFIG_PATH used during build... maybe it could be the problem





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