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[00:15:22] <twincest> "Oracle, Berkeley DB, and Sleepycat are trademarks or registered trademarks of Oracle Corporation. All rights to these marks are reserved. No third-party use is permitted without the express prior written consent of Oracle Corporation" < does that mean i can't say '<my application> uses Oracle Berkeley DB'?
[00:16:20] <alanc> ask a lawyer if you need to know
[00:17:00] <alanc> and of course, even then, just because it's legally allowed doesn't mean they won't try to sue you and claim it isn't
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[00:22:02] <sommerfeld> trademark law is weird
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[00:47:12] <richlowe> Hm, I seem to be hitting an autofs<>automountd deadlock.
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[01:14:22] <Error_404> umm...
[01:14:27] <Error_404> why did sun make up a pet name for me?
[01:15:24] <Error_404> i got an email from SDN calling me "Johnny"
[01:16:02] <Axposf> bye all
[01:16:04] <Axposf> :)
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[01:29:57] <detriment> richlowe: there?
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[01:33:10] <richlowe> movement: yeah.
[01:34:00] <richlowe> movement: don't suppose you've seen automountd get itself all tied up in various poll()s and hang requests lately have you?
[01:42:21] <movement> no but I haven't been running recent nevada
[01:42:31] <movement> "The stab with "#vla" is just declaring a simple stack
[01:42:32] <movement> variable named "#vla""
[01:42:41] <movement> so it looks we can just fix the parser then skip it
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[01:46:15] <richlowe> pretty much my guess?
[01:46:26] * richlowe knew the what, was wondering the why.
[01:46:48] <richlowe> I regret having looked at the dwarf bits, however. :)
[01:47:34] <kleppari> why have doom on ipod! :)
[01:47:36] <kleppari> awesome :)
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[01:51:23] <richlowe> movement: either way, that one is simple then, yes, and I have the diff here.
[01:51:39] <richlowe> if I can convince autofs to stop choking itself every few minutes, I may even be able to test it more vigorously, too.
[01:51:56] <movement> :/
[01:52:20] <movement> btw, I'm looking briefly at using SS11 DWARF. The first problem is easy, but the second one looks rather trickier
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[01:55:42] <richlowe> the problem in the referenced CR being the first one?
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[02:04:14] <movement> 6494247	ctfconvert of empty compilation units doesn't work when SS11 uses DWARF
[02:04:35] <movement> 6314239	ctfmerge finds duplicate types when it sees dwarf output from Sun C compiler
[02:04:46] <richlowe> the former I probably won't be able to see until tomorrow.
[02:05:51] <movement> ah
[02:05:59] <movement> well basically hat.o is an empty compilation unit
[02:06:06] <richlowe> 6379193 is the one I was referring to.
[02:06:17] <movement> so there's no DWARF children of the compile_unit DIE, and ctfconvert doesn't expect that
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[02:08:51] <jmcp> morning all
[02:09:08] <richlowe> mornin'
[02:10:12] <boyd> Hey, jmcp
[02:10:27] <stevel> jmcp [i=jmcp@nat/sun/x-6c4e1ee05890ec9f] entered the room.
[02:10:28] * stevel cheers
[02:11:03] <richlowe> movement: I did mention how annoying ctfconvert removing objects it can't convert is, right? :)
[02:11:29] <dlg> morn
[02:12:00] <jmcp> stevel: w00t :)
[02:12:07] <richlowe> stevel: how's the fixing going?
[02:12:44] <stevel> richlowe: good, up to july of 2006
[02:13:37] <sommerfeld> what's the time dilation factor relative to real time? :-)
[02:14:14] <stevel> everything post-split tree (dec. 21, 2005) is pretty straightforward, maybe about 2-3 hours to bring it up to today
[02:14:21] <stevel> it's the stuff that's pre-split tree that's complicated
[02:14:36] <movement> richlowe: 4904344 CTF tools shouldn't delete problem files
[02:14:58] <movement> richlowe: if you're really annoyed, the fix is simple: change the mtime of the output file to older than the first input file
[02:15:22] <sommerfeld> stevel: so you're past the "complicated" stuff then?
[02:15:24] <richlowe> I really dig the wider fix mentioned in 5006113
[02:15:33] <richlowe> it's so verbose and full of information...
[02:16:14] <movement> yes, indeed :/
[02:16:24] <stevel> sommerfeld: yeah, it's the complicated stuff that took me most of yesterday and today to regenerate.
[02:16:25] <movement> mainly because what we'd actually need to do is a little bit fluffy
[02:16:32] <stevel> now it's just chugging along
[02:16:49] <boyd> stevel: I may have missed it, but is there a post somewhere that explains the current problem? (Just interested)
[02:17:21] <stevel> boyd: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=18348&tstart=0
[02:17:30] <boyd> thx
[02:17:55] <stevel> basically one putback had a bad delete operation, unfortunately it was pretty early on in the history, so it was more problematic than the usual regeneration
[02:18:34] <boyd> bummer
[02:19:03] <boyd> are any of my existing changesets going to be useful?
[02:19:08] <richlowe> stevel: Uh, not quite, but close.
[02:19:23] <Doc> does anyone here have the bigadmin newletters, and have a recent one they can bounce to me?
[02:19:29] <stevel> boyd: nope, sorry :(
[02:19:58] <sch0> richlowe: s/bad/incorrect/ would be better?
[02:20:09] <richlowe> sch0: Ah, no.
[02:20:11] <richlowe> different point.
[02:20:28] <boyd> stevel: No prob... just wondering if I should prune or rm :)
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[02:21:32] <stevel> probably easiest to just rm, assuming you don't have any local changes
[02:21:41] <boyd> stevel: Sure, thanks
[02:22:12] <sch0> richlowe: Are you still looking at hg-wx possibilities?
[02:23:07] <richlowe> sch0: I think an extension is the way to go, but I think one implemented by someone more fluent in python than me would be a good idea :)
[02:23:37] <movement> bah, python is supposed to be learn-on-the-job!
[02:23:41] <movement> if I had to... :)
[02:24:19] <richlowe> movement: yeah, but *you* haven't seen this monstrosity. :)
[02:24:37] <stevel> movement: that's how i learned my perl and python...
[02:24:42] <stevel> ... and well... it ain't pretty
[02:24:49] <sch0> Ok.  It's just that dduval had a cool idea:  make the commit hook do the equivalent of "wx nits" or "wx pbchk", so that dirty repositories couldn't get to push.  (Also make the pretxnchangegrp on the gate side block if unclean--eliminates a lot of the minimally-incorrect backouts...)
[02:24:52] <stevel> as sch0 can attest to ;-)
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[02:25:41] <jmcp> Tpenta: gday
[02:26:20] <sommerfeld> sch0: of course, you also need some way for the developer to run exactly those checks without side-effecting the repository.
[02:26:32] <richlowe> sch0: the way I have things now you could probably do that.
[02:27:25] <richlowe> sommerfeld: hooks can be implemented in python, and (I believe) in extensions, the command and the hook could just wrap common code.
[02:27:28] <sch0> sommerfeld: yes, definitely; it also ties into using mq or trying instead to emulate redelget
[02:27:44] <richlowe> Mq is by far easier than emulating redelget other ways.
[02:27:48] <sch0> richlowe: okay, I need to get that migration project going
[02:27:53] <richlowe> even if it came to using mq to emulate redelget
[02:27:54] <Tpenta> how's beijing?
[02:28:07] <jmcp> Tpenta: yesterday was quite clear, today is more normal .... ie rather smoggy
[02:28:08] <richlowe> once we have an hg with the existing-changeset-to-mq-patch command I forget the name of.
[02:28:16] <jmcp> Tpenta: temp hasn't been too bad
[02:28:49] <sommerfeld> (general principle: if everything the gatekeepers do to the gate to build it can't also be done by developers, gatekeepers will spend too much of their time cleaning up after gatelings)
[02:28:50] <boyd> jmcp: hehe too true normal == smoggy
[02:28:53] <Tpenta> bloody awful out here
[02:29:23] <richlowe> You could, with mq loaded, use mq for the redeleget (changing <chunk of delats> into one patch), then un-mq that now single delta.
[02:29:31] <boyd> Here too.. we had snow in outer melbourne 2 days ago... 2 weeks before summer
[02:32:27] <sch0> I am worried about projects wanting to use mq for managing their upstream changes (like in an OSS component) and also using it for delta compression (redelget).  Say, like the Kerberos guys.
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[02:33:50] <jmcp> Tpenta: yeah, J said that she had to grab our bin from down the street because the wind was so strong
[02:34:27] <jmcp> boyd: only been nearly-run-over twice so far. I figure I'm doing ok :)
[02:34:35] <boyd> Anyone know how to set numlock on login under cde? Or from the cmd line
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[02:35:01] <boyd> jmcp: As long as it's only "nearly" you're doing alright
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[02:35:56] <movement> sch0: sounds like guards might help with that.
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[02:36:28] <movement> sch0: all the wx mq patches get marked with a guard and wx only operates with those. would need some thinking about...
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[02:37:17] <sch0> movement: interesting, will reread.  redelget ops are short timescale, so a tag ("guard") approach doesn't sound too bad
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[02:41:36] <movement> the main problem I see with mq is that making webrevs looks heartbreaking
[02:42:52] <sommerfeld> why?  is it too hard to (re)generate the current state of the parent?
[02:45:48] <richlowe> movement: it isn't.
[02:45:49] <movement> well, you only have patches
[02:45:54] <movement> richlowe: really?
[02:45:55] <richlowe> movement: no, you don't.
[02:45:58] <richlowe> gimme a sec. :)
[02:46:06] <movement> oh, you qpush everything first?
[02:46:16] <richlowe> indeed. :)
[02:46:22] <movement> but how does that help you?
[02:46:35] <movement> you create two branches somehow?
[02:46:46] <richlowe> Ah, you're referring to the bit I haven't solved.
[02:46:47] <richlowe> Bugger.
[02:47:12] <boyd> You could manually apply the relevant patches to the tip and then they are one changeset... ?
[02:47:29] <movement> boyd: this is about getting the diffs to the diffs :)
[02:48:02] <boyd> Ah... then maybe the mq stuff for maintaining the patches in their own repo
[02:48:26] <boyd> (second derivative of the source :) )
[02:48:31] <movement> hand-waving, you could create two branches, applying the old and new versions of each patch to each branch, then diff between each pair
[02:48:41] <movement> but that would include changes cumulatively
[02:49:02] <boyd> There is some stuff about getting diffs of diffs in the mq section of the hg book
[02:49:43] * boyd lunches
[02:50:19] <uebayasi> hi.  what's the most efficient way to retrieve the latest source snapshot?
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[02:51:06] <uebayasi> ("hg clone ssh://anon at hg dot opensolaris.org/hg/onnv/onnv-gate" doesn't work now?)
[02:51:41] <movement> uebayasi: it's down for the moment
[02:55:32] <uebayasi> ok
[02:55:57] <uebayasi> will try later then
[02:58:25] <OnkelSchorsch> hm. what NICs are supported by solaris grub in b50? neither a cheapo realtek nor three of my cheap 3com cards are being recognized
[03:00:10] <OnkelSchorsch> hm. time to build my own grub :(
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[03:30:29] <icon> evening guys
[03:30:46] <icon> Gman!
[03:31:01] <icon> !seen Gman
[03:31:03] <Drone> Gman is currently online in #opensolaris and last spoke on Wed 15 Nov 2006 22:46 GMT, saying 'hey dudes: )'.
[03:32:09] <jamesd> !seen  GPL
[03:32:12] <Drone> I've never seen gpl talk in #opensolaris.
[03:32:44] <jmcp> drone clearly hasn't been paying attention
[03:34:32] <movement> !seen dirty
[03:34:33] <Drone> I've never seen dirty talk in #opensolaris.
[03:34:37] <movement> I'm very sorry.
[03:34:42] <movement> I just had to.
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[03:38:38] * boyd shakes his head...
[03:39:19] <jmcp> movement: cheap laughs :)
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[03:39:42] <movement> it's what I'm all about.
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[03:40:15] <alanc> !seen intelligent
[03:40:16] <Drone> I've never seen intelligent talk in #opensolaris.
[03:40:30] <boyd> Umm... I'm having a brainfade... how can I get a sparc machine to tell me "sparcv9" or an x86 to say "amd64"? I thought there'd be a uname switch
[03:40:43] <alanc> isainfo
[03:40:56] <boyd> D'oh! thanks
[03:42:46] <hile_> james: look at your gtalk window
[03:43:05] <jamesd> i don't have a gtalk window ;-p
[03:46:05] <boyd> "so many a$$holes, so few bullets"
[03:46:12] <jmcp> jamesd: you're not the james he's looking for ....
[03:46:19] <jmcp> boyd: don't talk about your students like that!
[03:46:20] <jamesd> i never am..
[03:46:27] <boyd> jmcp: :)
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[03:46:45] <boyd> jamesd: You don't need to see his papers
[03:46:57] <boyd> jamesd: He can go in his way..
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[03:57:50] <jmcp> hmm au.rsync.org sends me to a pharma-spam site
[03:57:56] <Error_404> hmm...
[03:58:19] <Error_404> i found a VC firm that'll invest very small amounts of money
[03:58:26] <jmcp> Error_404: micro-VC
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[03:59:12] <Error_404> because all I'd need for the idea i have is a server, a rack to put it in (preferably in someone else's datacentre) and a web designer (because I have no artistic talent)
[03:59:13] <boyd> Error_404: I will invest very small amounts of money if you like
[03:59:34] <boyd> ... for some values of small
[03:59:44] <boyd> :)
[03:59:47] <Error_404> i'm not sure i can find a use for $20
[04:00:14] <boyd> Holy crap! $20.. Who do you think I am, Bill Gates!?!?
[04:00:15] <jamesd> send me the $20.. and i will send you a receipt.
[04:00:45] <Error_404> jamesd: and then i can staple it to a tax form
[04:01:18] <Error_404> i wish my friends weren't useless
[04:01:22] <boyd> jamesd: AUD20 is like USD0.25 :)
[04:01:31] <Error_404> i could get away with not hiring a web designer
[04:02:52] <boyd> Error_404: Maybe you can get a web designer to invest... then they work for free :)
[04:03:03] <Error_404> heh
[04:03:17] <Error_404> i don't even know any web designers
[04:03:34] <Error_404> (real ones, not monkeys that can puke up some ugly HTML)
[04:04:04] <jamesd> eh my html isn't that bad...
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[05:56:04] <Error_404> you know what'd be awesome?
[05:56:15] <Error_404> if "open"solaris's source were availiable
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[06:06:18] <dlg> Error_404: i agree completely
[06:08:56] <Lippman> anybody can tell me how to read windows chm file in opensolaris? What package should i install?
[06:09:32] <boyd> I don't know, but this might be ok: http://xchm.sourceforge.net/
[06:10:24] <boyd> I'm sorry to hear that google isn't working your part of the world :)
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[06:29:00] <OnkelSchorsch> building grub2, I'm stuck with this: "checking whether  works for absolute addresses... configure: error: gcc cannot link at address 2000"
[06:29:03] <OnkelSchorsch> weird :(
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[06:46:24] <OnkelSchorsch> ok. linux to the rescue
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[07:12:21] <dlg> there?
[07:12:24] <dlg> oops
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[07:23:03] <Tpenta> http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=8011
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[08:21:17] <PosixC>  hg clone ssh://anon at hg dot opensolaris.org/hg/onnv/onnv-gate
[08:21:18] <PosixC> remote: abort: repository hg/onnv/onnv-gate not found!
[08:21:18] <PosixC> abort: no response from remote hg!
[08:21:22] <PosixC> why ?
[08:22:04] <Error_404> because SOMEBODY WON'T OPEN THE REPO FOR ANONYMOUS USERS
[08:22:15] * Error_404 pokes some Sun people
[08:22:42] <PosixC> so what to do?
[08:22:51] <PosixC> newbie in this hg buisenss
[08:23:32] <Error_404> wait
[08:23:47] <PosixC> ...waiting...
[08:24:34] <Error_404> in theory, it should've been fixed a week ago
[08:25:20] <Error_404> annoy stevel if you see him
[08:25:29] <PosixC> OK , I am quite far...
[08:25:46] <boyd> http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=18348&tstart=0
[08:25:58] <Error_404> boyd: look at the datestamp
[08:26:04] <PosixC> and it seesm to me he is not the IRC in this hours ... ( is he from USA ?)
[08:26:11] <boyd> I'm just providing more information
[08:26:21] * boyd heads home
[08:26:33] <Error_404> you could annoy Sun by forking opensolaris
[08:26:49] <Error_404> "nuts to this crap. fork()"
[08:26:54] <PosixC> what is really ANNOYING
[08:27:18] <PosixC> is that there is no tar.bz2 for b52 (whereas former versions had)
[08:27:27] <PosixC> so I am a bit stuck
[08:27:56] <Error_404> indeed
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[08:43:48] <PosixC> just want to make suer : it is ok to put in /etc/ethers the MAC address then hostname , only in case the hostname is in /etc/hosts. Otherwise, I must put in /etc/ethers in the follwoing fornat: macaddress IP address ; is this true?
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[09:07:39] <lasseoe> posix, man -s 4 ethers
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[10:19:15] <Triskelio-> is there an actual way right now to get current onnv-gate or the last snapshot?
[10:19:19] * Triskelio- notices the previous conversation
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[10:23:33] <Triskelios> oh of course, I'll just clone off one one of the kernel guys coming here tomorrow
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[10:45:38] <raph_ael> hello
[10:46:07] * PerterB quacks
[10:46:15] <PerterB> morning
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[11:10:21] <dunc_> hiya PerterB, i've resorted to another mobo in the end for my fileserver
[11:10:36] <PerterB> did it help?
[11:10:45] <dunc_> and by massive fluke i picked one with 4 onboard SATA ports that are solaris supported :)
[11:10:58] <dunc_> and it seems the NIC is too, although that's not quite worky yet
[11:11:05] <dunc_> yep, zpool all sorted
[11:11:48] <dunc_> my NIC is detected and I can plumb configure it but no pingage as of yet
[11:12:01] <dunc_> plumb AND configure I meant
[11:13:44] <PerterB> not an nge by any chance?
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[11:22:12] <razrX> dunc_: which mobo did you get ?
[11:22:33] <dunc_> PerterB: nge, got it in one yes :)
[11:22:43] <dunc_> razrX: bear with me
[11:23:43] <dunc_> Gigabyte K8N51PVM9-RH-NV Socket 939
[11:24:00] <razrX> ty dunc_
[11:24:44] <dunc_> perso that's obviously a known thing PerterB
[11:24:49] <dunc_> perso?!?
[11:24:58] <dunc_> dunno where that came from
[11:25:00] <PerterB> perso! washes whiter than shite!"
[11:25:04] <PerterB> uh, "white"
[11:25:07] <PerterB> freudian typo
[11:25:54] <dunc_> lol
[11:25:59] <dunc_> classic
[11:26:19] <PerterB> I dunno about the nge thing, I have a motherboard with one integrated that worked fine under 6/06 but fails to receive any packets under Nevada
[11:26:53] <PerterB> jmcp apparently had a similar issue: http://blogs.sun.com/jmcp/entry/nge_ultra20_nevada_no_packets  but I don't have a BIOS setting like the one he describes that I can tweak
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[11:27:31] <dlg> dont you wish you had source code
[11:28:40] <PerterB> is nge closed then?
[11:29:55] <dunc_> oh that's making a lot of sense.  i hope i've got such a knob in the BIOS
[11:30:50] <dlg> nvidia ethernet?
[11:30:50] <dlg> yes
[11:32:12] <PerterB> hmm, that's a bit of a pain then... I stuck an old Dlink card that was lying around in there as a temporary measure, guess it might be there a while then :)
[11:34:58] <PerterB> although even if there were source available, figuring out what needs to be done to the driver to make it play nice with GLDv3 is a lot more effort than I'd want to put in just to get a working ethernet
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[11:39:57] <dlg> but someone would
[11:39:57] <dlg> more importantly
[11:39:57] <dlg> someone could
[11:41:39] <PerterB> true... there do seem to be a number of related "in progress" bugs filed: 6477703 6391428 6456215
[11:42:09] <PerterB> and 6404761 :) ("nge driver source required")
[11:42:27] <dunc_> bugger
[11:42:51] <dunc_> thanks to my sata onbored i have a couple spare pci slots i suppose though
[11:46:27] <dlg> PerterB: maybe you could talk someone into writing a driver against the openbsd or linux drivers
[11:46:57] <PerterB> you'd be better off talking to one of the Sun folk for something like that
[11:47:06] <dlg> heh
[11:47:11] <dlg> they probably dont like me that much
[11:48:10] <PerterB> oh, duh.... http://homepage2.nifty.com/mrym3/taiyodo/eng/ search down to "nvidia"
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[11:50:29] <PerterB> looks like a port from Linux
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[12:26:08] <Gr|ffous> hi all, I feel a little silly for not remember this, but; I have a single slice in a zpool. That pool is showing CKSUM error (uh-oh). Now ZFS still does guarentee accurate and consisant writes to the disk though right? even with only one.
[12:26:41] <Gr|ffous> I understand with 2 that it can self heal, what I'm a little hazy on is how there could be cksum errors in the first place with the whole checksummed COW?
[12:27:22] <Doc> what happens if the disk screw up?
[12:27:38] <Gr|ffous> after ZFS has written correctly you mean?
[12:27:45] <Doc> or, as i use in my ZFS example, if someone dd's over one side of the data?
[12:28:30] <Doc> griffous: there's more than a few examples where disks (or arrays) have had bugs and corrupted data, or written to the wrong block, or any of a number of things
[12:28:50] <Gr|ffous> right. Just needed a mental job on that one
[12:29:00] <Gr|ffous> *jog
[12:29:21] <Gr|ffous> so in my case (no mirror), I should scrub, and then monitor to see if that number keeps climbing?
[12:30:00] <Doc> personally i'd be trying to do a backup first...
[12:30:18] <Gr|ffous> heh, good point
[12:35:01] <Gr|ffous> is zfs send (to a file on a nfs server) a safe enough form of backup?
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[12:46:33] <Berny> morning
[12:47:17] <Berny> how comes that quota user reports not only the data for the user but for all users over quota (with the number from the specified user though)
[12:47:34] <Berny> aehm stop
[12:47:53] <Berny> it shows the data for all userdirs currently automounted
[12:55:09] * dlg scream
[12:55:15] <dlg> WHAT AM I DOING WRONG?
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[12:55:58] * dlg sigh
[12:56:09] <Berny> you were born
[12:56:17] <quasi> dlg: getting out of bed in the morning
[12:56:20] <Berny> .oO(suffer in the same way, we all do...)
[12:57:21] <dlg> i dont know how to interact with the scsi midlayer
[12:57:22] * Berny spent more than an hour to find out why 2 users couldn't login via dtlogin (they said they weren't over quota - stupid me believed it)
[12:57:29] <dlg> and my driver freezes up during attach
[12:58:31] <Berny> sorry i never did any driver coding yet
[12:59:24] <dlg> i only started in solaris last week
[13:01:34] <dlg> and jmcp is offline atm
[13:01:39] <dlg> woe is me
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[13:02:18] <jmcp> good evenin
[13:02:20] <jmcp> g
[13:02:41] <dlg> holy crap
[13:03:08] <Berny> morning jmcp
[13:03:18] <jmcp> hi berny, dlg, one-n-all
[13:03:27] <jmcp> dlg: just don't step in it
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[13:27:56] <Berny> hmm, where does the package SUNWljdk come from? is it new in any patch?
[13:30:33] <jmcp> no idea. it's not on my snv_51 system
[13:31:31] <Berny> i just patched my directoryserver and now it won't start anymopre because it's missing that package
[13:32:03] <razrX> it's not on my Sol 10 6/06 system either
[13:32:42] <Berny> i got it on another box i patched yesterday
[13:34:20] <Berny> but which patch was is in? bugger
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[13:39:36] <Berny> here we go
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[13:51:07] <Snake007uk> hello all
[13:53:22] <jmcp> good evening
[13:53:41] <Snake007uk> jmcp, you do the sotrage stuff at sun
[13:53:48] <Snake007uk> if i remember correctly
[13:53:55] <Snake007uk> just wondering what replaced the A5200??
[13:54:41] <lasseoe> T3's ?
[13:55:04] <jmcp> sshhhhh
[13:55:27] <Snake007uk> lol
[13:55:28] <jmcp> lasseoe: depends on what architecture you're thinking of
[13:55:36] <Snake007uk> fibre :)
[13:55:54] <Snake007uk> or fiber :p
[13:55:57] <jmcp> Snake007uk: but yes, generally speaking it went A5x00 -> T3 -> T3B -> 6x20
[13:56:08] <jmcp> Snake007uk: it's ok, I noes how to spel reel good
[13:56:10] <Snake007uk> what is a direct replacement ?
[13:56:18] <jmcp> none of them
[13:56:23] <Snake007uk> ah i see... ok
[13:56:26] <lasseoe> There aren't always direct replacements
[13:56:29] <jmcp> the A5x00 is a fc jbod
[13:56:38] <Snake007uk> you can still use the a5200 with the new x2100 just need a pci fibre card correct ?
[13:56:40] <jmcp> the closest thing to that was/is the SE3511 iirc
[13:56:51] <jmcp> yes ... but why would you?
[13:57:12] <dlg> something old with something cheap
[13:57:17] <dlg> its a match made in heaven
[13:57:18] <Snake007uk> coz i have one... with 11 * 73gb disks, and 11 * 18gb disks.... and i dont think i could afford the replacement :(
[13:57:51] <jmcp> Snake007uk: that's fair enough
[13:57:55] <Snake007uk> and i wanted a nice storage array anything new (with hardware raid would cost too much)
[13:58:10] <Snake007uk> A5200 is still pretty fast :D
[13:58:13] <jmcp> Snake007uk: avoid the emulex lp8k hba, btw ... it doesn't work with Sun's san stack
[13:58:19] <jmcp> Snake007uk: depends on how you configure it
[13:58:22] * jmcp shrugs
[13:58:25] <jmcp> horses for courses
[13:58:26] <jmcp> etc etc
[13:58:33] * Snake007uk thought hmcp was expert :p
[13:58:38] <Snake007uk> jmcp
[13:59:06] <jmcp> no, I just play one on tv
[14:00:03] <lasseoe> yeah I saw that show
[14:00:03] <lasseoe> no good :P
[14:00:19] <Snake007uk> :)
[14:00:21] <jmcp> lasseoe: awww
[14:00:22] <jmcp> :)
[14:00:30] <jmcp> maybe the production values weren't high enough
[14:00:35] <lasseoe> yeah that's it
[14:00:37] <jmcp> or maybe I have a face that's made for radio
[14:00:42] <Snake007uk> anyone know how to list all dirs and sub dirs but only DIRS
[14:00:50] <Snake007uk> no files
[14:00:50] <jmcp> Snake007uk: find * -type d
[14:01:05] <richlowe> *? heathen.
[14:01:27] <lasseoe> I prefer .
[14:01:39] <Snake007uk> lol
[14:01:44] <Snake007uk> yeah .
[14:01:51] <Snake007uk> thanks richlowe
[14:02:01] <jmcp> richlowe: shorthand ....
[14:02:05] <jmcp> richlowe: I'm feeling lazy
[14:02:11] <jmcp> richlowe: you know I'm lazy :)
[14:02:16] <richlowe> * is neither longer nor shorter than .!
[14:02:21] <lasseoe> richlowe: sorry to ask again, but that patch that broke useradd, do you remember the bugid ?
[14:02:40] <lasseoe> richlowe, takes up fewer pixels :P
[14:03:08] <richlowe> 6489363
[14:03:57] * jmcp tries to work out what to see in NYC over Christmas .....
[14:04:10] <lasseoe> richlowe: ta' velly much
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[14:05:34] <reg1> sup yall
[14:05:46] <reg1> test
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[14:06:43] * lasseoe sticks 120050-04 on the badpatch list
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[14:09:13] <richlowe> jmcp: gigantic crowds of people.
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[14:09:54] <regx_work> man ive had the biggest issues trying to install OSOL on my boxes.. sigh
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[14:15:35] <jmcp> richlowe: ha. I can see gigantic crowds of people walking on my way from the hotel to the Beijing office
[14:15:52] <jmcp> richlowe: and I thought Sydney was crowded. Boy was I wrong
[14:16:01] <regx_work> where you at? beijing?
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[14:16:42] <jmcp> regx_work: for the next two weeks, yes
[14:16:47] <regx_work> how is that?
[14:17:14] <jmcp> interesting
[14:17:17] <regx_work> lol
[14:17:32] <regx_work> that would be very cool to see what a normal work day in beijing looks like
[14:17:38] <jmcp> I remember a few words of Mandarin ... and there are a lot of signs in pinyin as well as characters
[14:17:41] <jmcp> heh
[14:17:43] <regx_work> just thousands of people walking
[14:17:44] <jmcp> I'll take a photo tomorrow
[14:17:47] <jmcp> yes
[14:17:52] <jmcp> and thousands on bikes
[14:17:56] <regx_work> dude that woudl be sweet
[14:18:01] <jmcp> and in buses, trucks, cars ....
[14:18:14] <regx_work> have you seen those internet cams? you can like login and control them
[14:18:26] <jmcp> the green pedestrian walk lights ..... decrease the possibility that you'll get hit by a car.
[14:18:31] <jmcp> yes, but I try not to
[14:18:38] <jmcp> I get my megalomaniacal kicks elsewhere :)
[14:18:55] <regx_work> i was using one in china i think or japan.. was like midnight there and there was still people walking around.. was so cool to think im looking at some place in *asian city* right nOW
[14:19:14] <regx_work> lol i just found it amazing to think we have the ability to do such a thing now.. so wild
[14:20:02] <regx_work> sigh i dont wanna work
[14:20:16] <jmcp> most people don't want to work
[14:20:21] <jmcp> hell, I don't :)
[14:20:30] <jmcp> I'd prefer to sit on irc ...... and play with my camera
[14:20:39] <loke> jmcp: people should want to work. Look at me, I work hard without any thought of personal gain
[14:20:53] <loke> regx_work: I'm in an asian city :-)
[14:20:54] <jmcp> there's that slight problem of income though ... I need one in order to finance my decadent western lifestyle
[14:20:57] <regx_work> normally its fine but .. i havnt been sleeping latly due to the fact that i cant pull my self away from the computer.. so im really.. lacking in the mental capacity dept right now lol
[14:21:02] <jmcp> loke: ha!
[14:21:47] <loke> jmcp: Taking a break is the same as stealing from the company. I hope you volunarily give miney back for any time you go to the toilet, or take an extended lucnh. Not to mention holidays
[14:22:02] <regx_work> lol
[14:22:21] <jmcp> loke: I must remember to report for re-education while I'm here
[14:22:22] <loke> The happiness of labour is the only reward I really need
[14:22:31] <jmcp> :)
[14:22:38] <regx_work> lol are you for real lol?
[14:22:44] <jmcp> loke: can I have some of the crack you're smoking?
[14:22:45] <loke> there is no better salary than the feeling of satisfaction for a hard days work
[14:23:02] <jmcp> regx_work: loke has injected the koolaid rather than just drinking it :)
[14:23:09] <regx_work> lol
[14:23:12] <loke> jmcp: oh no... :-)
[14:23:20] <jmcp> loke: at least I don't have to pay as much for beer here as you do :)
[14:23:39] <loke> jmcp: not me... You, on the other hand, should learn the basic of life... Like: "working hard makes for a happy man"
[14:23:54] <loke> jmcp: Yeah, beer here is horribly expensive
[14:23:55] <regx_work> loke really?
[14:24:02] <jmcp> loke: that's a short step away from Arbeit Macht Frei
[14:24:11] <jmcp> loke: yeah, I remember those prices
[14:24:28] <jmcp> loke: Tiger Jugs @ SGD24 +++ for happy hour
[14:24:37] <loke> jmcp: nah... "A working man is a happy man, and a happy man needs to freedom". :-)
[14:24:39] <lasseoe> mmm beer
[14:24:47] <loke> to=no
[14:24:58] <regx_work> heffewiezen and corona are the only beer i can stand
[14:25:01] <regx_work> i like wine
[14:25:12] <loke> (me and a friend was comping up with good slogans for hard work once over a few beers :-) )
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[14:25:28] <loke> jmcp: to be fair, a Tiger at the foodcourts is more cheap
[14:25:31] <jmcp> regx_work: it's been a laugh finding Aussie wines here - and when you translate the prices they're about what I'd pay back in Aus
[14:25:36] <jmcp> loke: true ...
[14:25:42] <regx_work> ah
[14:25:45] <jmcp> loke: then again, I haven't been to .sg for a few years
[14:25:56] <loke> jmcp: where is "here"? same for regx_work
[14:26:01] <DrAk0SX> for get started with opensolaris, which distribution or cd can I get to make a installation?
[14:26:10] <regx_work> USA/Phx,AZ
[14:26:21] <jmcp> loke: Beijing for the next 2 weeks
[14:26:33] <loke> jmcp: ah... Never been there. Want to go though
[14:26:39] <jmcp> DrAk0SX: Start with "Solaris Express" ... grab it from www.opensolaris.org
[14:26:42] <loke> jmcp: and then?
[14:27:11] <jmcp> loke: when I was (much) younger my school had a yearly China trip ... the year I wanted to go the political situation changed dramatically, so I missed out
[14:27:34] <loke> jmcp: to china from where?
[14:27:59] <jmcp> loke: back to Sydney
[14:28:04] <loke> ah
[14:28:07] <loke> aussie eh?
[14:28:11] <jmcp> yes
[14:28:18] <loke> this place is full of aussies
[14:28:38] <jmcp> I'd prefer Brisbane over Sydney since Brissie is my hometown, but my wife has a contract in Sydney until july next year
[14:28:43] <jmcp> loke: yeah, littering the place
[14:28:45] <jmcp> :)
[14:28:56] <loke> jmcp: you said it, not me :-)
[14:29:12] <loke> but they hang out at the expensive places, paying 30+ for a beer :-)
[14:29:21] <loke> good money to .sg :-)
[14:29:25] <jmcp> loke: yeah .... I know
[14:29:28] <regx_work> wtf is sg?
[14:29:36] <jmcp> singapore
[14:29:58] <regx_work> ah
[14:29:59] <jmcp> hell, I paid CNY29 for a chicken dish + rice last night ... and this morning I stopped at starbux for a double espresso which set me back CNY18
[14:30:09] <loke> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore
[14:30:23] <regx_work> i wanted to meet a cute asian chick.. ;)
[14:30:24] <DrAk0SX> jmcp, thanks
[14:30:36] <loke> wtf
[14:30:37] <regx_work> all we have here are slutty women who arnt that hott
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[14:30:38] <jmcp> loke: DrAk0SX you're welcome.
[14:30:40] <loke> that's 5.75 SGD!
[14:30:42] <jmcp> regx_work: myspace
[14:30:47] <jmcp> loke: for the coffee? yeah
[14:30:56] <jmcp> I'm getting 5.5CNY :: 1AUD
[14:30:57] <regx_work> i try not to load that page up whenever possible
[14:31:06] <loke> jmcp: I thought .cn was cheap?
[14:31:11] <jmcp> loke: it is
[14:31:21] <jmcp> unless you go to a western outlet like starbux
[14:31:34] <jmcp> haven't seen a McD's yet .. it'll be interesting to see what the Big Mac index is
[14:31:41] <Berny> 8-)
[14:31:46] <loke> jmcp: why do you go to starbucks then?
[14:31:48] <regx_work> dude take a pic of the mcdonalds menu!
[14:31:49] <loke> their tea stinks
[14:31:52] <Berny> you can still pay in USD ;-)
[14:31:53] <jmcp> loke: I spent CNY4.20 for lunch today - one burger-like thing and 2 dumplings
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[14:31:55] <loke> (i don't drink coffee=
[14:32:02] <jmcp> loke: I'm still trying to find a decent coffee
[14:32:08] <loke> jmcp: that's better
[14:32:17] <jmcp> Berny: yes, and I could check myself in to a psychiatric institution too :)
[14:32:31] <Berny> yeah sure :-)
[14:32:37] <jmcp> Berny: my American friends here are getting 8CNY :: 1USD
[14:32:46] <Berny> we might have a spare room over here ;-)
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[14:32:51] <jmcp> Berny: but I wouldn't want to do that here ...
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[14:33:24] <regx_work> i wanna go to europe so bad
[14:33:49] <loke> regx_work: where in europe?
[14:33:50] <lasseoe> so go get a ticket and fly over
[14:33:51] <regx_work> like just back pack to the big cities .. drinking and smoking and just doing WHATEVER i want.. obviously id have my laptop
[14:33:53] <jmcp> regx_work: my wife and I went to Italy, France and UK last year
[14:34:02] <loke> regx_work: europe consists of many countries
[14:34:05] <richlowe> bloody England.
[14:34:08] <regx_work> anyplace that doesnt hate americans
[14:34:09] <jmcp> regx_work: what about seeing things?
[14:34:10] <razrX> that's a lot of stops jmcp
[14:34:17] <Berny> regx_work: avoid europe :>
[14:34:17] <jmcp> razrX: kinda
[14:34:18] <Cyrille> that restricts the list somewhat ;-)
[14:34:19] <loke> it's like saying "i want to go to america, but not being sure if you want to go to canada or venezuela"
[14:34:22] <regx_work> lol
[14:34:34] <jmcp> razrX: I just wish last year I'd had a clue about how to use my camera properly
[14:34:36] <regx_work> i might just go to borring canada
[14:34:44] <regx_work> nah i wont
[14:34:45] <regx_work> nm
[14:34:50] <loke> regx_work: you can go to Prague?
[14:35:11] <razrX> didn't work out so great then?
[14:35:23] <regx_work> was thinking amsterdam
[14:35:30] <loke> regx_work: overrated
[14:35:34] <Berny> .oO(yeah the east european country have hot chicks...)
[14:35:35] <loke> Prague is way better
[14:35:38] <lasseoe> Amsterdam isn't what it's cracked up to be, no pun intended
[14:35:39] <razrX> loke: no it's not
[14:35:39] <regx_work> but you can smoke there :)
[14:35:44] <regx_work> lol lasseoe
[14:35:54] <jmcp> razrX: nah, it worked out ok, but I could have taken much better photos if I'd known about a few features
[14:35:55] <Berny> .oO(but you could buy some porn, thats cheaper and doesn't give you a jetlag)
[14:37:06] <regx_work> its nice not to have a pogue in here that randomly says "your offtopic!" and then bans you for being offtopic *cough* #archlinux
[14:37:07] <razrX> i'm from amsterdam, even born there
[14:37:07] <Cyrille> buy porn? haven't you heard of this new thing called the internets? ;-)
[14:37:30] <Berny> Cyrille: buy it online 8-)
[14:38:08] <Berny> to get back on-topic: buy it online from a box running osol 8-)
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[14:38:29] <regx_work> lol
[14:38:34] <regx_work> your banned!
[14:38:43] <regx_work> sigh im bord now
[14:38:54] <regx_work> i need to learn more solaris
[14:39:03] <razrX> don't we all ;)
[14:39:08] <regx_work> i only know how to do basics and setup Brandz zones
[14:39:29] <regx_work> just started last weekend using OSOL
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[14:40:25] <razrX> well, i've played with nevada since the magical 27a build containing ZFS version 1
[14:40:33] <razrX> but i've lots to learn still
[14:40:44] <regx_work> so is ZFS default or is it still UFS?
[14:40:52] <Berny> still ufs
[14:41:00] <regx_work> how do i move to ZFS
[14:41:11] <razrX> define default, UFS is still the defacto fs during installation
[14:41:12] <dunc_> root on zfs is still icksome
[14:41:19] <dunc_> if u want to upgrade
[14:42:22] <regx_work> where is /etc/fstab equivalent?
[14:42:33] * Berny is off to a coffee with his sunny sales guy
[14:42:38] <Berny> vfstab
[14:42:40] <razrX> it's /etc/vfstab
[14:42:41] <regx_work> k
[14:43:48] <regx_work> can you give me a hint on how to start and stop services? and how to add and remove services from startup?
[14:44:02] <lasseoe> man svcs
[14:44:03] <lasseoe> man svcadm
[14:44:07] <regx_work> k
[14:44:10] <razrX> regx_work: reserve couple of slices (a whole disc is even better ofcourse) and create a storage pool from that
[14:44:20] <regx_work> k
[14:44:23] <razrX> answer to your how to move to zfs question ;)
[14:44:26] <lasseoe> regx: also man smf
[14:44:37] <regx_work> smf and svcsadm  svcs
[14:44:44] <lasseoe> svcadm
[14:45:03] <regx_work> ya
[14:45:05] <regx_work> that too :0
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[14:49:45] <razrX> which command can show me which files a SUNW package deployed on my system?
[14:49:57] <razrX> is it a switch of pkginfo ?
[14:50:24] <loke> razrX: check the content of /var/sadm/install/contents
[14:50:35] <loke> grep for the package name
[14:50:58] <razrX> loke: is that just 'a way' or the only way?
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[14:51:15] <jmcp> razrX: pkgchk -nv $pkg     iirc
[14:51:37] <loke> razrX: it's the easiest, fastest way
[14:51:51] <jmcp> loke: if you're going to grep /var/sadm/install/contents, then use      nawk '/$pkg/ {print $1}'    instead
[14:52:14] <loke> jmcp: why?
[14:52:54] <razrX> thx jmcp
[14:53:04] <razrX> pkgchk -nv is what i was looking for
[14:53:12] <jmcp> loke: because it's more efficient
[14:53:19] <jmcp> loke: and using /usr/bin/awk won't work
[14:53:24] <loke> jmcp: grep is faster than awk :-)
[14:53:49] <jmcp> loke: think about it - you just want the filenames, correct? so use the tool which allows you to extract just that piece of information which you need
[14:53:53] <loke> and you could argue that grep and cut in a pipe is faster on multi-cpu :-)
[14:54:20] <loke> but now we're truely splitting hairs
[14:54:37] <jmcp> loke: yes .. .I see a pile of them all over the floor
[14:55:08] <jmcp> loke: ok, so for SUNWcsu ... what's the first entry you see?
[14:56:11] <loke> jmcp: I'm in the couch with my powerbook, can't be arsed to ssh to the solaris box :-)
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[14:56:41] <jmcp> loke: soft!
[14:57:43] <loke> jmcp: first entry i /usr
[14:59:35] <jmcp> loke: and if you just grep'd for that pkgname you get a list of all the packages which have /usr in their pkgmap
[15:00:00] <jmcp> whereas if you'd used        nawk '/SUNWcsu/ {print $1}' /var/sadm/install/contents     then you'd just see "/usr"
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[15:07:22] <loke> jmcp: pipe through cut?
[15:08:39] <jmcp> loke: grep = 1 fork+exec, cut = 1 fork+exec ..... versus nawk which is one fork+exec
[15:09:05] <jmcp> mentally -for me at any rate- it's cleaner to use nawk rather than grep+{cut|awk|nawk}
[15:09:09] <loke> jmcp: grep and cut can run in different cpu's :-)
[15:09:14] <loke> jmcp: no
[15:09:24] <loke> jmcp: because nawk is not portable
[15:09:25] * jmcp shrugs
[15:09:30] <loke> there is no nawk on osx nor linux
[15:09:41] <jmcp> loke: one of those is a real OS ... the other is linux
[15:09:48] <loke> jmcp: haha. agreed
[15:10:13] <razrX> lmao
[15:10:17] <loke> jmcp: we have at least one customer who's switching to linux from solaris since they want to run on opteron... I was like... wtf!
[15:10:42] <richlowe> nothin' like reinstalls.
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[15:12:00] <jmcp> loke: that's an interesting decision
[15:12:05] <jmcp> did they give you the real reason?
[15:12:30] <richlowe> jmcp: "but, but, all the cool kids are doing it!" would be my guess.
[15:12:39] <richlowe> "*Johhny's* parents let *him* do it!"
[15:12:40] <richlowe> perhaps.
[15:12:57] <loke> jmcp: nope
[15:12:59] <AbeFroman> prepare for heartache
[15:13:02] <loke> jmcp: but they're morons
[15:13:04] <jmcp> richlowe: ha
[15:13:07] <loke> like most users
[15:13:14] <jmcp> loke: that's what I'd be saying, but I try to be polite to customers
[15:13:34] <loke> jmcp: I'm not working directly with that customer
[15:13:39] <jmcp> loke: lucky for you'
[15:13:46] <loke> fortunately
[15:13:48] <loke> yah
[15:13:52] <AbeFroman> if matlab would port itself to solaris x86, i could convince 90% of the people here to switch back to solaris
[15:14:01] <loke> but let me tell you... the worst ones are the ones who run AIX
[15:14:10] <loke> that OS is one piece of utter garbage
[15:14:41] <loke> I prefer then running both linux and even hpux before AIX
[15:14:50] <loke> fortunately most is on solaris though
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[15:20:15] <jmcp> gnite all
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[15:38:52] <PosixC> is there a working solaris virtual console (I am not talking about vconsole project - http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/vconsole/;jsessionid=2D9D9A722FDD6B40120A4AF0F4C7593C
[15:39:38] <PosixC> or maybe the vconsole is already working ??
[15:40:10] <lasseoe> vconsole is the only thing in existance
[15:40:17] <lasseoe> I personally don't see the need for it.
[15:40:22] <twincest> if there were already working virtual console why would they be writing the same thing again?
[15:40:39] * lasseoe bites his tongue
[15:40:41] <PosixC> twincest, does it work ?
[15:40:59] <twincest> i don't know, i've never tried it
[15:41:30] <Cyrille> well there are plenty of working OSs and other software things, that's never stopped anyone from writing yet another version ;-)
[15:41:57] <twincest> yeah but an OS is different from a virtual console implementation, there's only so many ways to do the latter :)
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[15:45:04] <PosixC> what now ? I am asked for a password: hg clone ssh://anon at hg dot opensolaris.org/hg/onnv/onnv-gate
[15:45:51] <sommerfeld> PosixC: the virtual console project did their PSARC inception review yesterday.  there are a bunch of fit & finish type issues to resolve but they have something basically working
[15:46:26] <sommerfeld> PosixC: there was a serious bug in the teamware->hg gateway and the hg repository had to be rebuilt from scratch
[15:46:28] <richlowe> PosixC: it's still, currently, down.
[15:46:45] <richlowe> it asks for a pasword, rather than not existing, presumably so the fixed copy could be pushed.
[15:46:50] <PosixC> sommerfeld, thnks; I am downloading lates version vconsole-20060908.i386.tar.bz2
[15:46:51] <PosixC> NOW
[15:47:30] <PosixC> any idea if there a chances it will work ? and will the sparc version work ?
[15:48:04] <PosixC> richlowe, ok, help it will be better so people can get it
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[16:35:36] <bougie> hello :)
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[17:06:56] <regx_work> hi
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[18:08:45] <rookie___> hi all, i need to install a smb printer to solaris box, but it gives an error
[18:08:48] <sickness_> evening all
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[18:11:03] <rookie___> i try "lpadmin -p sharename -v smb://user:pass@workgroup/hostname/sharename -m uri -n /usr/lib/lp/model/ppd/system/foomatic/HP/HP-LaserJet_6L-hpijs.ppd.gz"
[18:11:30] <rookie___> but the error "lpadmin: ERROR: The model "uri" does not exist" comes up
[18:11:37] <rookie___> what am i doing wrong?
[18:11:53] <Cyrille> using -m uri when "the model "uri" does not exist"?
[18:12:20] <Cyrille> sorry, I don't know what the problem is.
[18:13:18] <rookie___> i read this help from http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/819-2380/6n4m2u5p4?a=view
[18:13:19] <estibi`> c
[18:14:00] <Cyrille> are you using Solaris Express?
[18:14:12] <Cyrille> Or Solaris 10?
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[18:14:40] <Cyrille> Because that feature, according to that page, is introduced in SX 2/05...
[18:15:25] <rookie___> im not sure, thats my uname -a output "SunOS solaris 5.10 Generic_118855-14 i86pc i386 i86pc"
[18:16:51] <Cyrille> Well it would appear that's a Solaris 10.
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[18:19:16] <gdamore> hi *
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[19:07:06] <quasi> lasseoe: 120051-04 is the exact same problem as yours, but on x86
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[19:31:22] <richlowe> stevel: yeah, you guys seem to have broke stuff again.
[19:32:11] <hell`> how do you get a route to bind to a certain interface?
[19:32:12] <richlowe> the ONNV schedule 404'd me (from tomcat too...)
[19:33:51] <stevel> grr
[19:34:14] <richlowe> stevel: yeah, I got your mail on website-discuss about a second after I hit return.
[19:34:14] <stevel> ahhhhhhh
[19:35:00] <stevel> does it work now?
[19:35:09] <richlowe> Yes.
[19:35:33] <stevel> gary installed the SCM environment onto our other server, and shunted it into production - but there was a missing NFS mount
[19:35:40] <stevel> so the attachments never got mounted correctly
[19:35:44] <richlowe> you guys and NFS.
[19:35:55] <stevel> come on. give us a break, it's not like we invented the damn thing
[19:35:58] <stevel> oh wait
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[19:36:00] <stevel> :-P
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[19:39:20] <sunnyDay> I am trying to hack a bit the iscsi driver ; I searched for it in cvs.opensolaris.org; I see 3 pages, many of the not in ON but in sun_nws
[19:39:39] <sunnyDay> any idea where are the sources of this iscsi driver in ON?
[19:40:26] <richlowe> onnv-clone/usr/src/cmd/iscsi/ has the target, the initiator is what you're seeing in NWS.
[19:41:27] <sunnyDay> richlowe, I see, thnks. I though that what is under /usr/src/cmd is user space apps
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[19:42:38] <richlowe> as far as I'm aware, the target is purely userspace.
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[19:46:06] <sunnyDay> richlowe, I am not sure I understand: when I type modinfo I see "iscsi"  module ; is what  I see is userspace (target) ?
[19:46:44] <sunnyDay> I suppose not
[19:46:56] <sunnyDay> it should be a module
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[19:47:16] <sunnyDay> so the question is in fact: where are the source of this kernel module?
[19:47:45] <richlowe> that is the initiator, it's what you're seeing in NWS
[19:48:30] <sunnyDay> richlowe, I thought so ; still I do not understand something:
[19:49:12] <sunnyDay> a moment
[19:50:05] <sunnyDay> ok all clear
[19:50:23] <hile_> okay, where the hell is purple santa?
[19:50:31] <sunnyDay> the thing was that I had recently built ON and thought that the iscsi module was part of it
[19:50:55] <sunnyDay> but it is under /kernel/drv/.... and not /platform/...
[19:51:10] <sunnyDay> All clear now
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[19:51:33] <sommerfeld_work> ON tosses stuff into both /platform/.../kernel and /kernel
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[19:55:41] <sunnyDay> sommerfeld_work, I know; what happened is that I recently built and installed opensolaris on a machine running SXCR ; after booting I saw in modinfo "iscsi" ;
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[19:55:51] <sunnyDay> so I though it was from ON
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[19:56:22] <sunnyDay> but I checked after richlowe answer the timestamp
[19:56:27] <sunnyDay> and I saw it is old
[19:56:45] <sunnyDay> (the timestamp of iscsi under the /kernel tree)
[19:56:46] <myrkraverk> hmm, what is solaris for "nm" ?
[19:56:59] <twincest> myrk: nm
[19:57:08] <jbk> however
[19:57:12] <jbk> it's in /usr/ccs/bin
[19:57:21] <myrkraverk> hmm
[19:57:33] <jbk> assuming you have installed the proper packages
[19:57:40] <myrkraverk> ah, yes (I really thought I had ccs in my $path)
[19:57:49] <jbk> (SUNWbtool)
[20:01:59] <myrkraverk> richlowe: you there?
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[20:09:39] <pikapika> hello
[20:09:57] <jamesd> hi
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[20:24:21] <gdamore> hey rpaulo!
[20:24:24] <rpaulo> hey!
[20:24:32] <gdamore> how's it going?
[20:24:41] <rpaulo> a bit tired. and you ?
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[20:36:56] <milek> hi
[20:37:13] <jbk> hi
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[20:42:40] <Error_404> Tpenta: SYN
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[20:49:18] <sommerfeld> 404: wait a couple hours.  he's probably not awake yet.
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[20:50:43] <Error_404> just wondering about -nd closed bins
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[20:57:20] <claudiush> wisniaa: ;]
[20:57:21] <wisniaa> :>
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[20:57:32] <Gz> ale tu kurwa ludu
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[21:00:02] <Rysh> ^^
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[21:01:25] <Rysh> ;]
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[21:06:48] <rpaulo> error: entropy source empty.
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[21:07:04] <gdamore> rpaulo: sorry, i stepped away for a few minutes.  how's the Solaris install going?
[21:07:13] <ProfMikey> sommerfeld: you about?
[21:07:14] <rpaulo> it's installed :)
[21:07:23] <gdamore> cool!
[21:07:27] <rpaulo> I haven't found time yet to play with it, though.
[21:08:06] <gdamore> well, theres a boatload of small bugs to work on, if you want to try working on something.  i can send you list of small ones from the oss-bite-sized list.
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[21:09:07] <Rysh> lol
[21:09:17] <trygvis> time to start banning
[21:09:22] <hali> *pl
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[21:09:57] <gdamore> heh. 6346576: csh is unable to operands greater than 2G.  i can't imagine any case where that would be a problem. ;-)
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[21:10:34] <Rysh> flood!
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[21:10:47] <trygvis> jez
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[21:10:55] <trygvis> ban *!Gz@*
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[21:11:00] <fsjjjl> so
[21:11:03] <fsjjjl> bye
[21:11:03] <Rysh> yeah!
[21:11:03] <fsjjjl> :)
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[21:11:58] <rpaulo> gdamore: I need to know how to update first. I have two college tests next week, so I can only spend time with opensolaris in the end of the upcoming week
[21:12:12] <gdamore> okay, cool. :-)
[21:14:33] <gdamore> anyone noticed that a few of the links, like "Developing Solaris" from http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/on/ are busted?
[21:14:56] <gdamore> actually, it looks like they are _all_ busted.
[21:15:04] <gdamore> anything under community/on seems missing.
[21:15:13] <sommerfeld> Hmm.
[21:15:28] <gdamore> well, maybe not.  the e*star link works.
[21:16:47] <richlowe> gdamore: Hm.
[21:16:49] <gdamore> this is bad.  i think some new people may want to be able to follow these links. :-)
[21:17:14] <rpaulo> bfu link works
[21:17:16] <richlowe> a bunch of the XXX links have always been that way :)
[21:17:21] <gdamore> can anyone here at least get the Developing Solaris link fixed?
[21:17:28] <richlowe> there's another Developing in ON link somewhere that does work.
[21:17:34] <gdamore> (community/on/dev_solaris ?)
[21:17:49] <gdamore> richlowe: can you post the link, and send it to rpaulo?
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[21:18:06] <richlowe> gdamore: not that one, the pdf link above it.
[21:18:09] <richlowe> and I'm not sure where the working link is.
[21:18:13] <richlowe> I just know I've read that document. :)
[21:18:20] <gdamore> hmm... rpaulo, go to http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/on/devref_toc/
[21:18:30] <rpaulo> neat
[21:18:32] <gdamore> its the parent document.
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[21:41:12] <dwc-> almost 12/06!
[21:41:17] <dwc-> (halfway there)
[21:41:38] <Sporq> =)
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[21:53:33] <Somethingelse> hey...how do i create virtual nics in solaris?
[21:53:47] <Somethingelse> i need to make pcn0:1 - pcn0:5 for virtual hosting
[21:53:55] <Somethingelse> can anyone help?
[21:53:56] <hell`> ifconfig pcn0:1 plumb
[21:54:03] <Somethingelse> cool, thx
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[22:07:25] <pjfloyd> #join #qt
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[22:13:05] <milek> somethingelse: or 'ifconfig pcn0 addif IP .....'
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[22:19:20] <regx_work> sup yall
[22:20:02] <axisys> i usually use cdrw to burn dvd on my ultra 20. is there also a gui version?
[22:20:40] <alanc> doesn't nautilus have a cd burner gui in recent GNOME releases?
[22:20:47] <alanc> haven't tried it though
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[22:22:34] <axisys> i use jds.. so it should be there too correct?
[22:22:55] <axisys> since jds is built on top of gnome?!
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[22:32:27] <tsoome> jds is not exactly latest gnome
[22:35:33] <alanc> it is if you use the latest vermillion builds, which include gnome 2.16
[22:35:48] <alanc> or if you upgrade to nv_53 when it's out
[22:36:04] <alanc> otherwise, recent nevada builds are pretty close - only 2.14
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[22:55:51] <axisys> i use sol 10 u2 not close to as blazingly fast as u guys r
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[22:58:57] <alanc> oh, then you're in gnome 2.6 and I don't know if it had burning support
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[22:59:48] <axisys> alanc: thats cool.. now cdrw and cdrecord are diff tools or is cdrw a wrapper?
[23:00:00] <alanc> different tools
[23:00:11] <alanc> cdrw was written by sun, cdrecord by schily
[23:00:16] <axisys> ok which one is preferred to burn a iso on a dvd?
[23:00:37] <alanc> dunno - I use cdrw because it's the one I learned first
[23:00:46] <axisys> alanc: cool
[23:00:49] <alanc> schily will give you a long list of reasons why cdrw is crap though
[23:02:28] <jbk> haha
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[23:05:50] <Gman> hey guys
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[23:27:36] <bohanlon> So, I just installed build 51 of the express releases of solaris on my Ultra 5 (I replaced the disk; it was running build 44).  Now all the software that I have tried to compile segfaults or bus errors.  Any hints?
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[23:37:03] <sickness_> bohanlon: maybe there was a flag day between 44 and 51?
[23:38:19] <bohanlon> sickness_: could you explain further?
[23:39:15] <sickness_> well it was an ipotesi... I'm a noob on solaris =)
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[23:40:13] <sommerfeld> is this stuff built on 44 running on 51 or built on 51 running on 51 ?
[23:40:41] <bohanlon> sommerfeld: built on 51; it was a fresh install
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[23:44:14] <sommerfeld> i'd look more closely at the core dumps to see if a particular routine was involved.
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[23:45:21] <bohanlon> hmmm...
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[23:52:34] <bohanlon> There is not really anything consistent about what was being run.
[23:52:48] <bohanlon> They were all completely different functions.
[23:54:19] <bohanlon> I know that that is not too helpful ... it would be nice if I could bootstrap something that works, except that this problem prevents proper bootstrapping...
[23:56:05] <sommerfeld> are there any files left over from the 44 install?
[23:56:06] <bohanlon> Things compiled with mlton and cmucl are fine; it seems to be gcc, but then only in larger projects (hello, world runs fine).
[23:56:29] <sommerfeld> ah, was just going to ask about gcc ..
[23:56:40] <bohanlon> sommerfeld: It is a different disk entirely.
[23:56:45] <sommerfeld> are you using the sun-supplied gcc in /usr/sfw/bin ?
[23:56:53] <bohanlon> I am.
[23:56:54] <sommerfeld> and no NFS?
[23:56:58] <bohanlon> No nfs
[23:57:23] <sommerfeld> ok, so it's not left-over fix-includes trash
[23:57:33] <bohanlon> Nope.
[23:57:37] <sommerfeld> no random coredumps from stuff you didn't build?
[23:57:46] <bohanlon> No.
[23:57:54] <sommerfeld> (ruling out hardware flakiness..)
[23:58:18] <bohanlon> Yeah, and build 44 worked just fine, building the same things and such.





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