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[00:02:30] <OnkelSchorsch> xh4: root's password is livecd
[00:02:58] <OnkelSchorsch> hm. does anybody know, if the ultra 20 M2 also takes non-ECC RAM?
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[00:04:40] <dwc-> if you go to www.sun.com, products, desktops
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[00:04:47] <dwc-> click on the ultra 20
[00:04:56] <dwc-> under tech specs
[00:05:17] <dwc-> it'll show you teh differences between the ultra 20 and the M2
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[00:07:50] <OnkelSchorsch> thanks. I've visited this site before.
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[00:08:55] <OnkelSchorsch> on the ultra 20 one can use both, on the ultra 20 m2 that doesn't seem to be the case. a german reseller put in the specs the low version of the m2 no mention of ECC memory.
[00:09:18] <OnkelSchorsch> that's why I wanted to be sure, if it was possible to use non-ECC memory..
[00:09:39] <OnkelSchorsch> xh4: the root password is livecd
[00:09:54] <Xh4> OnkelSchorsch, yup, figured that out. :P
[00:10:00] <Xh4> Too bad the liveCD was so slow I couldn't do anything.
[00:10:07] <OnkelSchorsch> oh :)
[00:10:11] <Xh4> And ifconfig -a didn't show my PCMCIA wireless card. :'(
[00:10:36] <twincest> that doesn't mean much, they might not ship the driver, or it might not have been plumbed
[00:10:48] <Xh4> Hm, true.
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[00:11:04] <twincest> iirc the wireless stuff isn't integrated yet, you have to install it separately
[00:11:21] <Xh4> Once I get my new laptop I'll partition it such that I could try Solaris out and, if it doesn't work out, install something else.. but yeah, live CD doesn't really change anything. :p
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[00:16:16] <gdamore> hi *
[00:18:35] <Xh4> hi gda*
[00:20:41] <dwc-> and how are you this fine friday afternoon
[00:20:44] * dwc- looks at the clock
[00:20:52] <Xh4> It's uhh.. Saturday morning..
[00:20:53] <Xh4> :\
[00:20:54] <Xh4> Here, anyway.
[00:21:02] <dwc-> not where gda or I are
[00:21:07] <Xh4> Oh.
[00:21:09] <Xh4> Funky.
[00:21:10] <Xh4> :\
[00:21:53] <dwc-> we americans are behind the rest of the world in many ways ...
[00:22:03] <Xh4> Word G.
[00:22:18] <gdamore> :-)
[00:22:58] <gdamore> so i think the wife has bought into the idea of me spending time working on a MIPS port of OS.  :-)
[00:23:05] <gdamore> i sold it as "professional development".
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[00:24:35] <alanc> gdamore: I saw a Tadpole Sun Ray laptop for the first time today
[00:24:47] <gdamore> what did you think?
[00:24:57] <alanc> (had a meeting this morning with Sun Ray X group and their manager pulled it out to use)
[00:25:11] <alanc> looked okay - didn't get a chance to play with it
[00:25:19] <gdamore> i did nearly all the Tadpole firmware support for it.
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[00:27:19] <axisys> if i dont apply resource contrl on a zone how mcuh resource will it get as far as cpu and memory? will it just dynamically share with global?
[00:29:36] <Auralis> right
[00:31:39] <axisys> can i add a raw device to a zone and have it full contrl?
[00:32:55] <axisys> if i have two network cards can I have only one for global and two for a zone?
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[00:41:38] <dwc-> I believe yes to the raw devices
[00:42:43] <dwc-> I'd guess no on the NICs because you'd be allowing the local zone to mess with the networking in the kernel of the global.... but I don't know
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[01:10:23] <aroman> hello all
[01:10:52] <Error_404> yo
[01:11:12] <aroman> I want to move my single-drive ZFS filesystem to a new computer (both x86, same architecture)... Do I have to do the zfs export/import thing?
[01:11:21] <Auralis> yes
[01:11:44] <aroman> ok, so what is the complete procedure, so that i don't screw something up?
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[01:13:05] <Auralis> zfs export pool, zfs import pool or something, read the mane page, don't have a sol10+ box currently here
[01:13:30] <aroman> ok, but it's just that? the export/import, nothing else?
[01:15:02] <Auralis> right
[01:15:19] <Error_404> somewhere between them you yank the drive
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[01:23:17] <sickness> lol
[01:23:34] <aroman> yeah... it's zpool export <name>, then move drive, then zpool import <name>
[01:23:36] <aroman> hmm
[01:24:00] <aroman> what's the min. hdd space for a minimal solaris server for just nfs and samba?
[01:24:24] <Error_404> 3, 400 megs i guess?
[01:24:26] <aroman> I feel a bit reluctant to part with my 30GB I use for my OS on my desktop...
[01:24:35] <aroman> Error_404, wow, really?
[01:24:48] <aroman> because I might have a 2GB or 3.5GB maybe...
[01:24:53] <aroman> brb
[01:24:55] * aroman checks
[01:25:33] <Auralis> much less, nfs can be done with sol 9 in like 50mb
[01:33:34] <axisys> how do  i change IP of a zone?
[01:33:43] <aroman> ok I have a 2.1 GB I think... doesn't really say on the drive, but I had OpenBSD on it and it ran Samba, pf, and a couple of other things so... should be enough right? ^_^
[01:34:15] <sickness> I'd stick with openbsd for a such small footprint =)
[01:35:16] <aroman> yes, but I want ZFS :)
[01:35:45] <sickness> heh, I understand :)
[01:35:57] <aroman> and I am putting a 300GB zfs-ed drive (more to come) in this computer
[01:35:58] <sickness> I have my home pr0n fileserver on zfs too :)
[01:36:03] <aroman> LOL
[01:36:20] <aroman> yes, so is my stargate/bsg/farscape/you get it server :P
[01:39:44] <sickness> :)
[01:40:19] <sickness> http://www.sickness.it/zfshomeserver.txt
[01:40:21] <sickness> http://www.sickness.it/zfshomeserver.jpg
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[01:46:12] <aroman> nice :D
[01:46:17] <aroman> can I do a raidz on one single disk?
[01:46:21] <aroman> then add more disks?
[01:46:33] <jamesd_> aroman, no
[01:46:36] <aroman> damn
[01:46:38] <aroman> oh well
[01:46:41] <aroman> next zpool
[01:46:52] <aroman> now time to go to my friend's house where I'll be setting up the server
[01:46:59] <aroman> ttyl thanks for the help ppl
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[02:15:35] <jmcp> sickness: please provide specs on the hw you used
[02:17:22] <sickness> jmcp: it's an asus vintage with sis chipset and sempron2600, the pci sata controller is a brandless silcon image 3114 with flashed bios
[02:18:02] <sickness> the asus motherboard name could be read in the jpg ;)
[02:19:14] <jmcp> true
[02:19:20] <jmcp> I was more wondering about the sata cards
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[02:21:05] <sickness> heh, anyway, even if the chipset is known, it doesn't show with cfgadm
[02:21:26] <sickness> and goes like ata6 so 100/133mb/s max :/
[02:21:30] <sickness> (legacy)
[02:21:49] <sickness> I wonder if in future updates opensolaris will see this chipset as native, it's the most common one after all...
[02:22:59] <coffman> sickness: does it have onboard grafic?
[02:23:04] <sickness> coffman: yeah
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[02:24:02] <coffman> i hope the is a fan in front ot the hds :)
[02:24:13] <sickness> nope, but there's an additional one in the back of the case
[02:24:32] <coffman> hm
[02:25:08] <coffman> i advice u to get better cooling for them
[02:25:18] <sickness> heh, I know, but I also want to run it quiet
[02:26:07] <coffman> get a drill and make some additional holes so u get more space between the disks
[02:26:15] <sickness> as of now, the system works like a charm, and is cheap
[02:26:17] <coffman> and for the noise use a big fan
[02:26:30] <sickness> so I'll gamble on the life of the disks, I have all the data on dvd-r media too, after all
[02:26:42] <coffman> urgs
[02:26:43] <sickness> but yeah, that barebone could use some improvements
[02:27:22] <coffman> (s)ata disk tend to die like flies if u dont cool them propper
[02:27:27] <sickness> and I'm already looking forward to the next one that will replace this :P
[02:27:32] <sickness> oh, really? :/
[02:27:37] <coffman> yeah
[02:27:38] <sickness> are they so hotter than pata?
[02:28:15] <coffman> not realy, the heat differs from vendor to vendor
[02:28:16] * jmcp heads off to hassle a travel agent about christmas plans
[02:28:21] <sickness> the machine runs quite cool from the bios temps even after prolonged use mobo is like 40 and cpu 45 or less
[02:28:43] <sickness> I don't have a way to check disk temps from solaris, well, maybe there is one, but I don't know how =)
[02:28:52] * sickness heads off to the bed
[02:28:54] <sickness> 'nite all :)
[02:30:11] <coffman> sickness: http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/
[02:31:10] <coffman> example: if the hd got konstant a temp over 50c it will cut the life time to 1/2
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[02:48:39] <Prodigy_S> hellosssssss
[02:48:54] <jamesd_> hi
[02:49:01] <Prodigy_S> y need help of the squid in solaris 10
[02:53:12] <Prodigy_S> hi
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[03:20:11] <aroman> hello
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[03:21:21] <aroman> I'm trying to install Solaris 10/06 on a Duron machine with 256MB RAM... I boot from the CD, and I get a kernel panic and a stack trace. Anything I can try to debug the problem? I tried booting with -kvd but that did not do anything... The only thing I can do is "Press any key to reboot". Thanks in advance!
[03:24:22] <coffman> aroman: most errors on installing are media errors of the cds or dvd...
[03:24:30] <coffman> i would check that first
[03:24:43] <aroman> hmm
[03:25:18] <aroman> I've checksummed the ISOs once I downloaded them
[03:25:31] <aroman> I'll try to boot on a different machine
[03:25:39] <aroman> coffman, thanks for the suggestion
[03:25:43] <aroman> :)
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[03:27:56] <coffman> n8
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[03:28:53] <aroman> :( not a media error
[03:28:58] <aroman> it boots on a PIII
[03:29:19] <aroman> I catch a "reading beyond ramdisk" as it panicked
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[03:41:35] <Error_404> Hmm... how to destroy a machine: copy from one ZFS volume to another
[03:47:14] <aroman__> damn this is annoying :(
[03:47:42] <aroman__> I keep on getting this "reading beyond the end of ramdisk" message repeatedly (MANY screens), then a kernel panic
[03:47:51] <aroman__> yet, on another machine it boots just fine
[03:50:36] <aroman__> how big is the ramdisk and where does it get put into memory? ie. beginning, end?
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[09:58:46] <Error_404> anyone kicking around still?
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[10:05:05] <twincest> nup
[10:05:28] <twincest> accomplishments for today: make HP-UX /usr/ccs/bin/ld segfault
[10:08:37] <triplah> ouch :P
[10:08:52] <quasi> twincest: how lovely - that must be an awful lot of fun, or something ;)
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[10:13:26] <Error_404> nvm, i just had a question about an ambiguity in the zfs man pages...
[10:13:33] <Error_404> a quick google... i found the answer
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[10:24:33] <Error_404> hmm... wow
[10:24:43] <Error_404> i've found the worst performing drive in the world
[10:26:36] <quasi> lucky you ;)
[10:28:22] <sickness> morning all
[10:28:33] <bank__> morning
[10:31:49] <Error_404> oh, that's what it is
[10:32:04] <Error_404> apparantly my PATA controller isn't supported
[10:32:18] <Error_404> so it's working in PIO mode.... ewww
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[10:33:45] <Peanut> Ah, genuine Ultra 5 performance, Error_404 ?
[10:35:18] <twincest> error: slower than my old drive that did 700KB/s?
[10:35:50] <quasi> http://blogs.sun.com/ford/entry/world_s_smallest_bootable_solaris - that's just plain crazy ;)
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[10:39:56] <bank__> guasi: how does the solaris looklike in mobile phone?
[10:40:03] <bank__> can we use a shell command?
[10:40:53] <lasseoe> you should probably actually READ the posting
[10:42:36] <quasi> lasseoe: that's probably asking too much ;)
[10:43:04] <bank__> :(
[10:43:40] <lasseoe> quasi :)
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[11:02:40] <Fish> hello
[11:03:05] <bank> hello
[11:15:40] <asyd> \_o<
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[11:52:33] <kimc> hello opensol
[11:53:02] <Xh4> Hello kimc.
[11:53:53] <kimc> just found the problem with the on-board nics not passing any data.. now to get back to the 'iSCSI with MPxIO' project
[11:54:38] <kimc> Xh4" is it morning where you are ?
[11:56:00] <kimc> only recently have iSCSI working on the test setup here for both the target and initiator
[11:56:45] <Xh4> kimc, nope.
[11:56:50] <Xh4> 8PM, Saturday.
[11:56:50] <Xh4> :P
[11:57:22] <kimc> awright :)
[11:58:34] <kimc> isn't the 'net great :)
[11:58:59] <Xh4> Word. :P
[11:59:33] <kimc> brb..
[11:59:44] <Xh4> tyt..
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[12:01:52] <kimc> back in there now..
[12:02:42] <kimc> wonder if its possible to connect 2 Solaris 11 machines with dual ethernet
[12:03:47] <kimc> maybe i should be pursuing that instead of MPxIO..
[12:05:35] <quasi> kimc: link aggregation - you can with supported nics
[12:06:32] <quasi> kimc: http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/816-4554/6maoq01nk?a=view
[12:07:18] <kimc> ahh ok.. wonder which would have better performance: iSCSI with MPxIO or with lin aggregation ?
[12:07:55] <kimc> thanks for that link btw.. i'm there now..
[12:10:31] <kimc> checking to see if this USR 7930 gbe swith supports IEEE 802.3ad aggregation.. i think it does
[12:13:11] <boyd> Are you sure you can do mpxio with iSCSI?
[12:13:45] <kimc> its supposed to be working for the initiator case
[12:14:31] <kimc> configuration info for the target could be less ehh.. available
[12:15:10] <kimc> the only target i have to work with is solaris so must make that work
[12:16:46] <kimc> The switch 'Complies with IEEE802.3, IEEE802.3u, and IEEE802.3ab'
[12:17:10] <lasseoe> hm wonder if iSCSI is better in S10 11/06
[12:17:19] <lasseoe> s/better/usable/
[12:18:23] <kimc> got it working a week ago with the target on b48 and the initiator on a 11/06 machine
[12:18:56] <lasseoe> initiator seems fine, it's the target that's the problem
[12:19:08] <kimc> yeh right
[12:19:30] <kimc> i don't think the target code has been changed for some weeks now
[12:19:44] <lasseoe> in which case I gotta wonder why it's in Update 3
[12:19:52] <lasseoe> imho it's so no production ready yet
[12:19:57] <lasseoe> no=not
[12:21:07] <kimc> when i ran out of time last weekend, i had run some benchmarks with iozone but have not had time to evaluate the numbers
[12:21:39] <kimc> it doesn't crash/stop/hang..
[12:22:07] <lasseoe> sure as long as the backing store isn't on a ZFS filesystem :)
[12:22:17] <lasseoe> or is bigger than 512MB and on UFS :)
[12:22:38] <lasseoe> which leaves you with errr raw disks, oh and not ZVOLs because they max out at 5MB/sec :)
[12:22:54] <kimc> they do ?
[12:23:09] <lasseoe> with iscsi they do
[12:23:22] <kimc> hmm... I have ZVOLS on both ends
[12:23:56] <kimc> this is not good
[12:27:12] <kimc> cp initiator -> target studio11-sol-x86.tar.bz2 (348739381) in ~ 3 seconds
[12:27:42] <kimc> sounds like its a little faster than 5 MB/s
[12:27:46] <lasseoe> GigE I assume ?
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[12:27:49] <kimc> yep
[12:27:56] <lasseoe> what's the target device?
[12:28:22] <kimc> its just a amd am2 4600+ on an Asus mobo
[12:28:34] <kimc> running b48
[12:28:40] <lasseoe> the actual device, raw zvol, plain disks..
[12:28:57] <kimc> oh one sata disk zvol
[12:29:48] <lasseoe> guess it's improved since b45/46
[12:30:25] <kimc> i wonder if theres something flawed with my test..
[12:30:43] <lasseoe> well.. even for gige that sounds very fast
[12:30:58] <kimc> yeh maye this is 'for real' :)
[12:31:20] <kimc> and how fast can it go with dual gig e's
[12:32:17] <kimc> on the target side: # iscsitadm create target -b /dev/zvol/rdsk/pool0/vol1 target0
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[12:32:34] <lasseoe> yup
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[12:37:20] <kimc> at work they have an apple xraid box with 1 gb fibre and i want to get this cranked up until it beats it
[12:37:41] <kimc> then take it in for a little show-and-tell
[12:38:39] <kimc> i don't think they really needed the FC san for what they're doing but a local Mac 'var' told them they did..
[12:39:32] <Peanut> Puts a new meanin in the words 'value added'...
[12:40:08] <kimc> '..you can't edit video on G5's running Final Cut HD without a SAN..'
[12:40:26] <kimc> Peanut: you've got that
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[12:41:15] <kimc> wonder if there is good iSCSI support on OSX..
[12:42:53] <sickness> i'm back
[12:43:18] <kimc> when you add up the cost of a small san system like they have, with 2x QLogic sanbox fc switches @ $4K each + the Xraid
[12:43:29] <kimc> it adds up
[12:43:34] <kimc> high sickness
[12:43:40] <kimc> er hi i mean
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[12:50:42] <kimc> the video editing business is an untapped market for Sun afa i can tell..
[12:51:38] <clee> you'd need some pretty good video editing software, wouldn't you?
[12:51:59] <clee> I mean, Apple kind of owns everything with Final Cut Pro
[12:52:06] <clee> (and on the low-end, iMovie)
[12:52:07] <kimc> it shouldn't be too hard to beat apple's big $$ Xraid fibre channel solution with iSCSI on Sun servers running with zfs-based backing stores
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[12:52:28] <clee> you're focusing on the storage side, but that's not really that big an issue right now
[12:52:38] <kimc> yes.. i'm not thinking about editing on the Sun (yet..)
[12:53:07] <kimc> Apple does own it with Final Cut
[12:54:25] <kimc> Apple enjoys an emotional attachment advantage with Macs and OSX
[12:54:53] <clee> well, I mean, the emotional attachment does exist for a reason
[12:55:16] <clee> their software, for the most part, actually works
[12:55:21] <clee> and it's easily understood
[12:55:56] <clee> my sister (just starting college this year) is not technical at all, but she was able to figure out how to import video and burn a DVD without even asking me, on the iMac my parents bought for her
[12:56:07] <clee> she used to call me every week with Windows troubleshooting issues
[12:56:15] <clee> and I shudder to think of trying to explain Linux or another UNIX to her
[12:56:26] <kimc> oh yeh no question it good for that
[12:57:27] <kimc> I wouldn't advocate using a command line driven editor on Unix etc.. but the reliability of Final Cut on OSX isn't that great
[12:58:06] <kimc> you can hear a lot of 'anecdotal evidence' from satisfied Final Cut users
[12:58:57] <kimc> But when you have several systems running at the same time turning out real product on a tight schedule
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[12:59:22] <kimc> you get a feel for how reliable the stuff really is.. not that reliable
[13:00:16] <kimc> the san drivers screw up and Final Cut hickups and needs to be restarted.. its not heavan
[13:00:50] <kimc> some of it might be the editors
[13:01:55] <kimc> its true you can say its better than Windows if you're supporting non-technical users who want to make a dvd
[13:02:22] <kimc> they've made movies on Final Cut
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[13:03:41] <kimc> don't let an emotionally attached Mac user hear this kind of talk though ;)
[13:04:11] <sickness> eheh
[13:04:31] <sickness> there must be something wrong with me, but I'm totally unable to do anything even simple with osx
[13:04:41] <sickness> I can't use iTunes nor any iThing :/
[13:04:52] <kimc> really ?
[13:04:57] <sickness> I simply can't do what I want, and the file manager is even worse for me :(
[13:05:08] <sickness> I always resort to open up a terminal ad move files do things from command line
[13:05:12] <sickness> :/
[13:05:15] <kimc> cool
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[13:05:50] <sickness> imho it feels simply wrong how the graphical UI works on osx :/
[13:06:11] <kimc> yeh its great.. you can fire up the Finder and get a warm fuzzy feeling dragging files around.. really nice
[13:06:35] <kimc> i guess you have to get used to it..
[13:06:44] <sickness> yeah, maybe that's all
[13:07:13] <kimc> i don't doubt that clee's sister loves her Mac.. and it lets her do cool stuff too..
[13:07:25] <lasseoe> just have ot get used to it - there are some Finder replacements though
[13:07:28] <sickness> for example look at the program to download pics from your digital camera
[13:07:35] <sickness> that's completely screwed up, IMHO
[13:07:36] <kimc> don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-Mac
[13:07:53] <sickness> it does whatever it wants and you can't access/backup your damn files afterwards :(
[13:08:22] <lasseoe> sickness, errr.. iPhoto works just fine for that, if you don't like, just copy out the files manually.
[13:08:27] <lasseoe> the camera should mount as a regular disk
[13:08:37] <sickness> with unix I simply do a gphoto2 -P, get all the files in a dir, and then see them with gqview ./ or modify them with gimp, I can backup them with a simple tar, with osx this isn't possible :/
[13:08:59] <lasseoe> sickness, now you're talking rubbish :)
[13:09:01] <sickness> iphoto did never let me act on the files, he keeps all in his screwed up format :/
[13:09:08] <sickness> to me, it's pure evil :(
[13:09:34] <sickness> phone
[13:09:49] <lasseoe> there's no screwed up format
[13:10:16] <kimc> the ease of use in most Mac software has become a standard which developers shoot for
[13:10:48] <lasseoe> if you want to backup your photos, just tar up ~Pictures/iphoto Library
[13:10:55] <kimc> if it doesn't have that polished Mac feel, the consumers won't accept it
[13:10:57] <lasseoe> they are all in there, in JPG format
[13:11:38] <triplah> my experience with iphoto was like that too
[13:11:44] <triplah> i just want a dir of files
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[13:11:50] <lasseoe> then don't use iphoto :)
[13:11:51] <triplah> not some wierdo file
[13:12:00] <triplah> ehe
[13:12:03] <triplah> <-- loves osx
[13:12:12] * triplah wishes he could afford a mac
[13:12:26] <triplah> i know i'd end up running linux on it anyway
[13:12:29] <triplah> :\
[13:12:46] <kimc> I'd like a Mac to plya round with too..
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[13:13:18] <kimc> Wonder if you can run that scaled-down version of Final Cut a Mac-mini ?
[13:13:29] <lasseoe> Final Cut Express?
[13:13:32] <kimc> that might be about my speed
[13:13:33] <lasseoe> sure I run that on my Powerbook
[13:13:44] <kimc> ahh..
[13:13:52] <lasseoe> I even used Final Cut Pro on it for a while, work a charm
[13:13:53] <lasseoe> worked
[13:14:03] <kimc> cool
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[13:17:45] <kimc> looks like all the iSCSI initiator software for Mac is third-party
[13:18:46] <kimc> $180 or so
[13:19:32] <kimc> Thats a lot less than ~$1K for fibre channel san targets
[13:21:59] <kimc> i can't get the free Microsoft initiator to connect to the b48 target.. others can't either
[13:22:41] <sickness> lasseoe: you sure the the library folder hasn't some machinery?
[13:26:01] <kimc> brb..
[13:26:11] <lasseoe> sickness, appears to be some data files where it'll keep iPhoto specific stuff, but I can't see that it matters
[13:26:21] <lasseoe> I mean, if all you care about are your actual photos
[13:26:29] <sickness> uhm, yeah
[13:27:14] <lasseoe> or.. don't use iphoto at all, just copy off the pictures manually and use preview or whatever program you fancy
[13:27:23] <lasseoe> literally no difference to using gphoto
[13:28:15] <sickness> uhm
[13:28:17] <PerterB> Viewit is a nice alternative... It can do the downloading and sorting for you and is a pretty nippy image viewer (although I actually use Iview Mediopro for sorting/cataloguing)
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[13:41:23] <PerterB> proverb for this morning: "A watched ufsdump never seems to bloody complete"
[13:41:41] <lasseoe> ain't that the truth
[13:42:22] <PerterB> *sigh* DUMP: 16.24% done, finished in 0:51
[13:42:29] * PerterB goes to make more tea
[13:44:58] <sickness> yeah :)
[13:45:07] <sickness>   DUMP: Estimated 7332976 blocks (3580.55MB).
[13:45:07] <sickness>   DUMP: Dumping (Pass III) [directories]
[13:45:07] <sickness>   DUMP: Dumping (Pass IV) [regular files]
[13:45:09] <sickness> :)
[13:48:34] <PerterB> this one is 50GB, but dumping to an attached disk array so should run a bit quicker... (bloody server has no root mirroring, no tape backups and the client wants to physically move it on Monday)
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[15:27:38] <trygvis> how can I see how much memory I have free?
[15:27:43] * trygvis misses the free command from gnu
[15:29:51] <PerterB> vmstat or sar -r 1
[15:30:18] <trygvis> how do I get the result in MB or kB?
[15:31:31] <PerterB> the vmstat output is already in KB
[15:31:44] <PerterB> sar might be in pages, just to be perverse
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[16:31:36] <stefanp> hey
[16:32:32] <jteo> hello stefanp.
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[18:07:15] <edytt> what is a u2 please?
[18:07:42] <sickness> ultra2 ? update2? you two the rock band?
[18:08:46] <tsoome> I would say, the band:)
[18:10:58] <quasi> yeah, most likely
[18:12:05] <tsoome> as for others he would know how to use the google;)
[18:13:37] <quasi> the first page of google for u2 is nothing but the band, which more or less confirms that as the most likely choice ;)
[18:16:04] <edytt> i got my answer thanks guys :)
[18:19:14] <sickness> lol
[18:19:15] <sickness> yw
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[19:00:53] <dclarke> hello ... is this thing working ?  testing .. 1 ... 2 ... 3
[19:01:02] <asyd> yup
[19:01:05] <tsoome> nay, it's broken...
[19:01:08] <tsoome> :P
[19:01:23] <dclarke> okay .. I can see noise .. and nop signal .. its working perfect
[19:01:26] <dclarke> :-)
[19:01:40] <dclarke> so .. wtf is with the osol-discuss list ?  it looks bloody broken
[19:01:57] <dclarke> I posted a reply to this http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=15193&tstart=0
[19:02:03] <dclarke> last night and nothing shows up
[19:02:17] <dclarke> so did Kieth Wiznowski ( sp? )
[19:03:25] <dclarke> sorry .. its Kieth Wazowski : see his brother at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Wazowski
[19:04:08] <richlowe> if you responded to that, your response must have been moderated.
[19:04:20] <dclarke> bull
[19:04:33] <richlowe> well, it not showing up via jive is normally a bug in jive.
[19:04:34] <richlowe> as we know.
[19:04:35] <jteo> ?
[19:04:39] <richlowe> but I don't have your response in general.
[19:04:40] <dclarke> actually .. its Wesolowski
[19:04:40] <richlowe> via mail, either.
[19:04:46] <dclarke> right ..
[19:04:51] <dclarke> thats what I am saying
[19:04:52] <jteo> i got that response too dclarke. via email.
[19:04:55] <dclarke> no ones response is there
[19:05:18] <dclarke> Keith Wesolowski's is absent .. mine also
[19:05:25] <dclarke> freaking not bloody working
[19:05:30] <dclarke> can someone kick that list ?
[19:05:47] <richlowe> there's no responses to that in the mailman archives either.
[19:07:00] <dclarke> I just sent a post .. 5 minutes ago
[19:07:08] <dclarke> it says that the osol-list is not working
[19:07:11] <dclarke> did anyone get that ?
[19:08:08] <jteo> maybe stevel broke something.
[19:08:09] <jteo> ;)
[19:08:36] <dclarke> yeah .. no kidding
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[19:09:31] <dclarke> this : http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/TVhpMP12.html
[19:09:43] <dclarke> was not moderated and none of my messages have EVER been moderated
[19:09:52] <dclarke> so .. whats with this server inside Sun eh ?
[19:10:01] <dclarke> let's get the maillist processed by the community
[19:10:08] <dclarke> because that thing don't bloody work
[19:10:11] <dclarke> kick it
[19:10:13] <dclarke> reset it
[19:10:14] <dclarke> revert it
[19:10:18] <dclarke> do something with it
[19:10:21] <dclarke> please
[19:10:25] <dclarke> with sugar on top
[19:12:30] <dclarke> excuse me .. but now what ?
[19:13:02] <dclarke> I find it totally impossible to believe that this was moderated : http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/QNH4XS12.nln.html
[19:13:53] <richlowe> I got mail via zfs-discuss 5 minutes ago.
[19:13:56] <richlowe> so not *everything* is broken.
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[19:14:03] <dclarke> okay .. thats a good thing
[19:14:10] <dclarke> we have some function
[19:14:10] <loke> dclarke: woah. I just read your post
[19:14:17] <dclarke> you got that ?
[19:14:27] <dclarke> does that look like it needs to be moderated ?
[19:14:39] <loke> oops
[19:14:40] <loke> no
[19:14:45] <dclarke> I busted my ass for nine hours last night installign a dual Opteron server for a few guys
[19:14:51] <dclarke> and I heard _nothing back
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[19:15:09] <dclarke> so .. it was not .. typical ya know ?
[19:17:01] <richlowe> dclarke: how did that take 9 hours?
[19:17:23] <dclarke> welllll
[19:17:27] <dclarke> I had no RAM
[19:17:36] <richlowe> Oh, hardware fu.
[19:17:40] <dclarke> and I needed to take down the blastwave web server
[19:17:47] <dclarke> and also the login server
[19:17:51] <dclarke> and the polaris server
[19:17:58] <dclarke> and a X2100 server
[19:18:06] <dclarke> and then install RAM into the polaris server
[19:18:21] <dclarke> and then rip parts from here there and over here and whats this will it work? huh .. maybe
[19:18:24] <dclarke> and install that
[19:18:27] <dclarke> and hope it boots
[19:18:33] <dclarke> and then .. gee .. looks it does
[19:18:34] <dclarke> wow
[19:18:41] <dclarke> lets install snv_49
[19:18:48] <dclarke> damn .. hard drive is a 9GB ?  toss that
[19:18:52] <dclarke> start over
[19:18:57] <dclarke> sort of like that .. ya know
[19:19:12] <dclarke> oh .. and at some point I crashed on the couch watching TV
[19:19:23] <dclarke> that really punches a hole in productivity too :-)
[19:20:11] <dclarke> Recipient address: @sunmail3.sfbay.sun.com:Kieth.Wesolowski at sun dot com
[19:20:13] <dclarke>   Original address: Kieth.Wesolowski at Sun dot com
[19:20:15] <dclarke>   Reason: Remote SMTP server has rejected address
[19:20:16] <dclarke>   Diagnostic code: smtp;550 5.1.1
[19:20:18] <dclarke> wtf ?
[19:21:15] <dclarke> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/bODzp999.nln.html
[19:21:31] <dclarke> Remote SMTP server has rejected address ??
[19:21:38] <dclarke> that looks like blockage to me
[19:21:55] <dclarke> or am I wrong here ?
[19:22:38] <Stric> seems like a bounce from some internal server..
[19:22:50] <dclarke> so it was never received
[19:23:02] <dclarke> by the Kieth at the very least
[19:23:11] <Stric> not if that was the only recipient
[19:23:35] <dclarke> let me try another Sun address ..
[19:23:41] <dclarke> just a test
[19:23:54] <dclarke> hrmmm .. who to pick as a test guy ?
[19:23:58] <dclarke> Alan Hargreaves
[19:24:04] <Stric> @sunmail3.sfbay.sun.com:Kieth.Wesolowski at sun dot com  doesn't seem like a great address though
[19:24:27] <Stric> unless it's some retarded rewrite for some internal special thingie
[19:25:43] <dclarke> okay .. I got an "Subject:   	Out of office"  from Alan's email right away
[19:25:46] <dclarke> that works
[19:26:04] <dclarke> so .. here comes the $65,000 question
[19:26:26] <dclarke> is the OpenSolaris.org mail server parked on the same network as Kieth and thus email breakage may be systemic ?
[19:26:54] <dclarke> I may not be using the word systemic correctly
[19:27:01] <dclarke> but you know what I mean
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[19:54:12] <axisys> is quagga compiled in kernel level like openbgd on openbsd?
[19:54:42] <axisys> our dns team like to use it
[19:57:00] <dclarke> bawck in a bit
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[20:11:05] <bank__> hi
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[20:29:37] <bank__> what if when I install zone it state that "cannot create ZFS dataset pool/zones/test-zone: dataset already exists"
[20:29:49] <bank__> ( I add dataset via zonecfg command)
[20:30:00] <bank__> will this zones still on zfs?
[20:31:16] <bank__> I ever heard that zonecfg will decide it is on zfs or it. and create correspose . but I not sure this mean we don't need to add dataset?
[20:31:27] <bank__> or we don't need to zfg create.
[20:31:50] <bank__> I guess it mean we don't need to zfg create sub-zfs. but still add dataset.
[20:36:05] <bank__> by the way, we still need to set mountpoint to legacy.
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[20:39:08] <dclarke> is anyone looking into opensolaris-discuss mailling list issues ?
[20:44:34] <dclarke> any opensolaris.org dudes hanging here or what ?
[20:45:19] <bank__> urm .. there are only newbie like me.
[20:45:54] <bank__> I am looking for BFU of brandZ is the "BrandZ-aware package tools" << is the right one? (but this is from b38?)
[20:45:57] <dclarke> lovely
[20:46:22] <dclarke> well .. I think you have to check out the BrandZ project page at opensolaris.org
[20:46:31] <dclarke> its one of those things I want to look into also
[20:46:36] <dclarke> I have to run out for a bit
[20:46:39] <dclarke> back .. eventually
[20:46:43] <bank__> http://opensolaris.org/os/community/brandz/downloads/ yes ..
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[20:47:10] <bank__> may be b43 .. is look ok.
[20:47:13] <bank__> I will try that.
[20:50:55] <bank__> it seem that keyword always bring me to ben blog :P
[20:51:39] <dclarke_AFK> what is bens email ... let me look
[20:53:18] <bank__> The official Installation guide was obsolete.
[20:54:16] <delewis> the original installation guide was for b28 or b27 (whenever BrandZ was introduced)
[20:54:47] <bank__> oh..
[20:58:29] <bank__> it requires kaio and shared memory segments"
[20:58:51] <kleppari> Oct  7 18:58:23 saint audioemu: [ID 689250 kern.warning] WARNING: invalid physical address for playback page, failing
[20:58:52] <kleppari> Oct  7 18:58:23 saint audioemu: [ID 435273 kern.notice] NOTICE: SB Live! only works at physical addresses <2GB
[20:58:57] <kleppari> this is great
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[21:02:42] <kleppari> seems like, if the process accessing the dsp devnode resides beyond 2GB, audioemu fails
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[21:28:17] <kleppari> oh, great
[21:28:51] <kleppari> the DMA engine on the card isn't capable of accessing physical addresses >=2G
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[21:33:37] <_william_> hi all
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[21:34:42] <voirub> Hi
[21:34:49] <voirub> Hi, what is the way to enable portmap? I think that I need this to mount a nfs partition
[21:34:52] <voirub> any idea?
[21:37:06] <quasi> voirub: on s10 you svcadm enable svc:/network/nfs/client:default
[21:38:00] <voirub> okey, lot of thanks!
[21:38:27] <voirub> and, for solaris 9?
[21:39:03] <Auralis>  /etc/init.d/nfs.client start
[21:39:20] <voirub> thanks again :)
[21:41:20] <elektronkind> nfs.client won't start rpcbind itself
[21:41:28] <elektronkind>  /etc/init.d/rpcbind start
[21:41:28] <elektronkind> will
[21:41:33] <voirub> uhmm, where is this file? /network/nfs/client:default
[21:41:42] <jengelh> it's that svcadm weirdness
[21:42:05] <voirub> interesting
[21:47:48] <voirub> I am trying to mount an nfs partition, but this command seems to do nothing (frezees)
[21:47:53] <voirub> mount -F nfs 172.0.0.3:/world /world
[21:48:06] <jengelh> obviously
[21:48:09] <voirub> the server is a NetBSD
[21:48:11] <jengelh> er nm
[21:48:16] <voirub> why?
[21:48:22] <jengelh> I thought you wanted to 127.0.0.3... :p
[21:48:39] <voirub> 127?
[21:49:07] <voirub> sorry
[21:49:10] <voirub> I am stupid :)
[21:49:13] <voirub> mount -F nfs 172.16.0.3:/world /world
[21:49:16] <voirub> works now ;P
[21:50:53] <voirub> thanks jengelh
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[22:31:39] <_william_> hi
[22:37:53] <jbalint> hey
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[23:16:43] <boyd> Jeez, I don't read zfs-discuss for 3 days and it explodes!
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