November 15, 2019 
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November 15, 2019 [01:09:22] *** arnoldoree <arnoldoree!~arnoldore@ranoldoree.plus.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:12:20] *** mutin-sa <mutin-sa!~s-mutin@85.234.114.134> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[01:12:49] *** mutin-sa <mutin-sa!~s-mutin@85.234.114.134> has joined #openindiana[01:55:57] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@167-192.gwi.net> has joined #openindiana[01:56:34] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@167-192.gwi.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:57:09] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-03.gwi.net> has joined #openindiana[02:15:12] *** _0x5eb_ <_0x5eb_!~seb@seb-hpws2.elen.ucl.ac.be> has quit IRC (Quit: Goodbye!)[02:30:38] *** _0x5eb_ <_0x5eb_!~seb@seb-hpws2.w1.tele.crt1.net> has joined #openindiana[02:53:25] *** Kurlon_ <Kurlon_!~Kurlon@167-192.gwi.net> has joined #openindiana[02:56:43] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-03.gwi.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[02:58:20] *** Kurlon_ <Kurlon_!~Kurlon@167-192.gwi.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[03:32:41] *** eichiro <eichiro!~eichiro@107.191.100.185> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[03:43:08] *** eichiro <eichiro!~eichiro@107.191.100.185> has joined #openindiana[03:53:35] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@cpe-67-253-141-249.rochester.res.rr.com> has joined #openindiana[05:28:44] *** panorain <panorain!~panorain@airstream-farmers-pppoe-10-ws-216.direct.airstreamcomm.net> has joined #openindiana[06:38:36] *** _0x5eb_ <_0x5eb_!~seb@seb-hpws2.w1.tele.crt1.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Goodbye!)[06:39:40] *** _0x5eb_ <_0x5eb_!~seb@seb-hpws2.elen.ucl.ac.be> has joined #openindiana[06:59:04] *** panorain <panorain!~panorain@airstream-farmers-pppoe-10-ws-216.direct.airstreamcomm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[07:07:58] *** panorain <panorain!~panorain@airstream-farmers-pppoe-10-ws-216.direct.airstreamcomm.net> has joined #openindiana[07:33:15] *** mnowak__ <mnowak__!~mnowak_@94.142.238.232> has joined #openindiana[07:37:30] *** CaptainTobin <CaptainTobin!~tobin@c-68-38-10-41.hsd1.in.comcast.net> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[07:38:02] *** mnowak_ <mnowak_!~mnowak_@94.142.238.232> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[07:38:02] *** tsukasa <tsukasa!~tsukasa@unaffiliated/tsukasa> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[07:38:02] *** ita <ita!~ita@unaffiliated/ita> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[07:38:02] *** Jefe <Jefe!~jeff@66.51.195.8> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[07:48:54] *** CaptainTobin <CaptainTobin!~tobin@c-68-38-10-41.hsd1.in.comcast.net> has joined #openindiana[07:48:54] *** ita <ita!~ita@unaffiliated/ita> has joined #openindiana[07:48:54] *** Jefe <Jefe!~jeff@66.51.195.8> has joined #openindiana[08:08:18] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@148-52-235-80.sta.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Quit: tsoome)[08:15:18] *** CaptainTobin <CaptainTobin!~tobin@c-68-38-10-41.hsd1.in.comcast.net> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[08:15:20] *** ita <ita!~ita@unaffiliated/ita> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[08:15:21] *** Jefe <Jefe!~jeff@66.51.195.8> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[08:16:57] *** CaptainTobin <CaptainTobin!~tobin@c-68-38-10-41.hsd1.in.comcast.net> has joined #openindiana[08:16:57] *** ita <ita!~ita@unaffiliated/ita> has joined #openindiana[08:16:57] *** Jefe <Jefe!~jeff@66.51.195.8> has joined #openindiana[08:22:10] *** mbnt <mbnt!~fbm@toroon0952w-lp130-02-69-158-44-9.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #openindiana[08:22:51] *** amrfrsh <amrfrsh!~Thunderbi@185.212.171.68> has quit IRC (Quit: amrfrsh)[08:24:56] <mbnt> Hi, I installed OI on my desktop, how do I fire up the ethernet connection?[08:28:52] <Reinhilde> does dladm show-phys show anything mbnt[08:30:25] <mbnt> Reinhilde, rge0 (ethernet) and urtw0 (Wifi)[08:30:50] <mbnt> state down and down[08:31:38] <Reinhilde> i think you should be able to, upon setting rge0 up by means I have forgotten, ipadm create-addr -T dhcp rge0/v4[08:32:12] <Reinhilde> lucky you with your urtw btw[08:32:41] <Reinhilde> i have an ath that works on freebsd and the linucoid robots[08:33:42] <mbnt> Could not create address: could not communicate with dhcpagent[08:38:32] *** alanc <alanc!~alanc@inet-hqmc02-o.oracle.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[08:43:19] *** alanc <alanc!~alanc@inet-hqmc02-o.oracle.com> has joined #openindiana[08:43:19] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o alanc[08:44:18] <Reinhilde> heck if i know[08:49:46] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@148-52-235-80.sta.estpak.ee> has joined #openindiana[08:50:57] <mbnt> ifconfig or something...[08:54:15] <Reinhilde> well clearly dhcpagent isn't running[08:54:26] <Reinhilde> svcs -a | grep dhcp[08:54:29] <Reinhilde> ?[08:55:06] <mbnt> next line returns nothing[09:01:40] <mbnt> I got wifi signals, but when I input the password it says it cannot connect. I double checked, I know the password is correct.[09:07:23] <Reinhilde> the interface is down[09:19:47] <mbnt> We need to turn interface frown upside down.[09:22:51] <Reinhilde> no[09:22:59] <Reinhilde> we need to mark the interface up[09:23:05] <Reinhilde> i think it's done with dladm[09:23:11] <Reinhilde> man -s1m dladm[09:23:40] <mbnt> no manual entry for dladm[09:25:04] *** amrfrsh <amrfrsh!~Thunderbi@131.234.44.76> has joined #openindiana[09:25:45] <Reinhilde> really[09:25:47] <Reinhilde> try -s8[09:25:55] <Reinhilde> there was a rearrange recently[09:27:57] <mbnt> no dice[09:28:09] <mbnt> maybe i ought to try later[09:28:53] <mbnt> i am sure it is a metter of a trivial command[09:47:31] <mbnt> Reinhilde, Thanks anyways. You tried.[10:01:06] *** panorain <panorain!~panorain@airstream-farmers-pppoe-10-ws-216.direct.airstreamcomm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: I am leaving the 'institution' now.)[10:08:34] *** arnoldoree <arnoldoree!~arnoldore@ranoldoree.plus.com> has joined #openindiana[10:22:14] <mbnt> For server install, which version of oi download do I want?[10:29:04] *** mbnt <mbnt!~fbm@toroon0952w-lp130-02-69-158-44-9.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[10:29:07] *** amrfrsh <amrfrsh!~Thunderbi@131.234.44.76> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[11:17:44] *** amrfrsh <amrfrsh!~Thunderbi@131.234.44.76> has joined #openindiana[12:23:35] *** amrfrsh <amrfrsh!~Thunderbi@131.234.44.76> has quit IRC (Quit: amrfrsh)[13:43:19] *** psarria <psarria!~psarria@26.red-79-146-96.dynamicip.rima-tde.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:21:34] *** amrfrsh <amrfrsh!~Thunderbi@131.234.44.76> has joined #openindiana[15:03:36] *** amrfrsh <amrfrsh!~Thunderbi@131.234.44.76> has quit IRC (Quit: amrfrsh)[15:26:08] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@148-52-235-80.sta.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[16:19:29] *** psydroid <psydroid!psydroidma@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-jbspqufsfnxuevjd> has joined #openindiana[16:35:34] *** mbnt <mbnt!~fbm@toroon0952w-lp130-02-69-158-46-37.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #openindiana[16:36:23] <mbnt> Hi, I installed oi on the desktop, but cannot connect to the internet. I get both wifi signals and have ethernet, but the state is 'down'[16:36:58] <mbnt> "dhcpagent isn't running"[16:47:24] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@148-52-235-80.sta.estpak.ee> has joined #openindiana[16:47:54] <mbnt> Also, what version of OI would be best to use for servers?[16:57:28] *** aeryndunham <aeryndunham!~quassel@c-73-85-193-185.hsd1.fl.comcast.net> has joined #openindiana[17:07:08] <rennj> intel servers with there speculation bugs...microcode updates, disabled hyperthreading, that server?[17:07:37] <rennj> probably an os's thats been patched for all that mess..along with compilers that have been patched...[17:07:49] <rennj> retrapoline[17:09:35] <mbnt> rennj, do you know how to get my connections into an 'up' state?[17:10:49] <rennj> check the wiki...my ethernet e1000 works off dhcp correct on install[17:11:09] <mbnt> rennj, Which wiki, there is more than one.[17:11:21] <rennj> https://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/4.2+Networking[17:11:36] <rennj> https://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Using+NWAM+to+configure+network+interfaces?src=sidebar[17:11:44] <rennj> probably that mess[17:11:49] <rennj> who knows[17:12:12] <rennj> or see the oracle docs..which actually use to make sense...[17:12:53] <mbnt> in a few words, you do not know.[17:13:01] <rennj> read the page fool[17:13:08] <rennj> it explains the new method[17:13:21] <rennj> my networking works..so i dont have to waste time on that stupid[17:13:35] <rennj> ifconfig eth0 up[17:13:38] <rennj> there magic[17:18:31] <mbnt> "no such interface"[17:18:59] <mbnt> ahh well, we tried.[17:19:14] <rennj> ifconfig -a...i was giving an example[17:19:18] <rennj> jesus go read[17:20:03] <mbnt> I tried the other options, like lo0 and rge0, same result.[17:20:35] <rennj> yeah loopback heh..that a good joke[17:22:17] <mbnt> Shame.[17:29:44] <mbnt> I guess OI is not really compatible with this machine, better switch to something else. I tried.[17:32:25] *** psarria <psarria!~psarria@26.red-79-146-96.dynamicip.rima-tde.net> has joined #openindiana[17:35:45] <psydroid> what exactly is your machine?[17:38:29] <mbnt> psydroid, I wanted to run OI on desktop and server. The desktop is an amd cpu, gigabyte mobo with an rx 560 graphics card and 16 gigs of ram. Do you want the mobo model?[17:40:39] <psydroid> mbnt, that would be useful, I think[17:41:11] <psydroid> I only have really old AMD hardware from the 2000s that works with OI[17:41:17] <mbnt> psydroid, GA-F2A88X-D3H[17:43:18] <rennj> https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E26502_01/html/E29044/rge-7d.html got rge is just a matter of configuring[17:44:34] *** amrfrsh <amrfrsh!~Thunderbi@134.19.189.92> has joined #openindiana[17:45:44] <psydroid> is that Realtek chip supported by Illumos, though?[17:46:01] <rennj> it would not show up in ifconfig[17:46:04] <rennj> no driver[17:46:06] <rennj> heh[17:46:50] <rennj> ddu[17:47:19] <psydroid> mbnt, wouldn't you be able to insert an Intel NIC in the machine? you can probably find a used one for a few euros/dollars[17:47:39] <rennj> why when the realtek is showing up[17:47:51] <psydroid> I have also had to make some changes to accommodate for OI like putting an Nvidia graphics card in my machine[17:48:01] <psydroid> but after that OI works pretty nicely[17:48:37] <rennj> throw money away, rather than learn how to setup dhcpd on rge0 interface[17:48:51] <psydroid> it's so weird that it shows up but doesn't work, though[17:49:03] <rennj> unplumb and plumb it[17:49:08] <rennj> disable the service[17:49:15] <psydroid> and I don't have any of the newer AMD hardware, mine is all AM2[17:49:35] <rennj> this is covered in the docs[17:50:05] <psydroid> well, I don't remember ever reading the docs[17:50:37] <psydroid> that said, maybe I should try to install the latest OI shapshot on this laptop[17:50:57] <rennj> https://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Static+IP[17:51:09] <rennj> walks you thru it[17:51:13] <rennj> for static[17:51:23] <rennj> so dhcpd cant be much diff[17:51:42] <rennj> i already waste time pointing to wiki now couple of times[17:51:51] <rennj> or use the better oracle docs[17:52:18] <psydroid> so it's up to the user to get things working now[17:52:35] <psydroid> let's wait for useful feedback then[17:52:40] <rennj> no, on install my e1000 nic was setup correct with dhcpd[17:53:08] <rennj> who know what mbnt is doing[17:54:46] <rennj> OpenIndiana 151a is by default installed to use NWAM and DHCP dynamic IPs. ....[17:54:49] <psydroid> probably trying to make sense of all the documentation[17:54:54] <rennj> and thats on the default install[17:55:02] <rennj> it ask static or dhcp[17:55:52] <rennj> # svcadm disable svc:/network/physical:nwam[17:55:52] <rennj> # svcadm enable svc:/network/physical:default[17:56:00] <rennj> which service is going to control the nic[17:56:09] <rennj> see you got choices[18:00:55] <mbnt> psydroid, okay, so I just need to buy the parts you mention and I am good.[18:02:25] <psydroid> mbnt, generally yes, e1000 works fine with OI in QEMU too for example without any configuration[18:07:40] <rennj> https://docs.openindiana.org/handbook/systems-administration/#configuring-networking[18:07:42] <rennj> same info[18:07:54] <rennj> ifconfig rge0[18:07:59] <rennj> why waste money[18:10:29] <mbnt> rennj, Okay, let me boot up and try...hold on...[18:12:02] <psydroid> is this a fresh install of the lates OI release?[18:12:18] <mbnt> psydroid, yep[18:12:32] <psydroid> I don't advocate buying hardware needlessly[18:12:35] <psydroid> latest*[18:13:16] <mbnt> rge0: flags=1004843<UP, Broadcast, RUNNING, MULTICAST, DHCP, IPv4>btu 1500 index 13[18:13:42] <mbnt> inet 0.0.0.0 netmask ff000000[18:14:03] <mbnt> ether fc:aa:14:58:24:fb[18:15:59] <rennj> nwamadm list[18:18:54] <rennj> Usually NWAM configuration is done via GUI nwam-manager applet and nwam-manager-properties program.[18:19:08] <rennj> no gui?[18:19:58] <mbnt> rennj, Yep, I have GUI. wifi cannot connect, even though I entered the password and wired now says waiting for address[18:20:07] <rennj> rge0[18:20:09] <rennj> is not wifi[18:20:16] <rennj> that is realtek gigabit nic[18:20:29] <rennj> you know what fuck this madnes...[18:20:34] <mbnt> rennj, I am just reading what the applet says[18:20:53] <mbnt> tho the earlier command spooled out lots of info, what am i looking for?[18:21:08] <mbnt> nwamadm lsit[18:21:09] <psydroid> ok[18:21:15] <psydroid> so there is some confusion here[18:21:40] <mbnt> I am on the command line, but rennj mentioned the applet[18:22:00] <mbnt> I tried the applet last night, it did not work.[18:22:18] <psydroid> if you want wifi, you need an adapter that is compatible with OI[18:22:34] <psydroid> I don't know if you have any or not[18:22:52] <rennj> do you have an ethernet cable plugged into that computer?[18:22:53] <psydroid> rge0 is wired realtek ethernet on your motherboard[18:22:55] <mbnt> Yeah, I have that, but when I add the user name and password, it does not work. I triple checked the password. Plus, I prefer wired anyway.[18:23:09] <mbnt> Wired, yep, I know.[18:23:36] <mbnt> Like it shows that I got wired and wireless, both applet and ifconfig[18:24:10] <mbnt> But wired all the way because it is desktop.[18:24:52] <mbnt> But figured wireless in the interim until I figured out the rest of the mess, maybe an update would have sorted things out.[18:25:28] <mbnt> rennj, Yes, the ethernet cable is plugged into the machine.[18:25:50] <rennj> and where is the dhcpd server on this lan?[18:26:05] <rennj> the ethernet cable is plugged into a switch i hope[18:26:21] <rennj> see are we really doing dhcp or is this static ip[18:26:30] <mbnt> rennj, I multiboot the desktop, so it is fine for internet[18:26:43] <rennj> so cable modem?[18:26:54] <mbnt> yeah, high speed ethernet[18:27:17] <mbnt> fiberoptic[18:27:21] <rennj> so the computer --rge0 is plugged right into the cable provided modem...[18:27:26] <mbnt> yep[18:27:58] <mbnt> runs linux/windows/whatever just fine[18:28:32] <rennj> meh..re install i would say[18:28:43] <rennj> or read the docs[18:29:48] <rennj> should probably be getting some rfc1918 ip from that modem so[18:29:59] <rennj> you 10.10, 192.168, 172...fooo[18:30:44] <rennj> check linux...see the "ip a" or winblows ipconfig[18:30:58] <rennj> reinstall do dhcp on rge0[18:31:35] <rennj> or you could just set the ip[18:31:48] <rennj> force it thru...do static...[18:32:13] <mbnt> rennj, you think it is just a configuration issue?[18:32:27] <rennj> user issue[18:32:30] <rennj> you![18:32:40] <mbnt> hahahaha[18:32:51] <mbnt> Of course, I am learning. A noob.[18:33:12] <mbnt> come on, but figured just getting internet is the important first step[18:33:36] <mbnt> n00b[18:33:47] <psydroid> I don't envy you[18:33:49] <rennj> the docs tell you how to set it up[18:33:58] <mbnt> Wanted to join the cult of the OI[18:34:05] <psydroid> maybe I was just lucky to get my hardware when opensolaris was still a thing[18:34:08] <rennj> because the install process failed to do it...doesnt mean you could follow along those docs i pointed[18:34:34] <rennj> a thing to late[18:34:37] <psydroid> and all the development that was being done to support current hardware at the time[18:34:46] <rennj> 1995 opensolaris..maybe sun would be still around[18:34:56] <rennj> nip linux a.out libc in the bud[18:35:05] <rennj> prior to elf glibc even[18:36:20] <psydroid> for a lot of younger potential contributors the problem is that we grew up on linux, so learning how solaris/illumos does things takes time and effort[18:36:48] <psydroid> and I've only ever written kernel code for linux[18:38:57] <mbnt> so you are saying newish hardware will be an issue[18:39:14] <mbnt> I know Linux, but not that well. OI seemed intriguing to me.[18:39:49] <Reinhilde> did you check the dladm man page on how to mark rge0 up?[18:40:08] <rennj> yeah well solaris 2.x--9 is not solaris10/11 opensolaris/openindiana illumos[18:40:30] <mbnt> Reinhilde, Hey there. Yeah, rennj and psydroid were helping me.[18:40:52] <Reinhilde> Good. Have you gotten a solution?[18:41:06] <mbnt> Reinhilde, rennj says reinstall![18:41:14] <rennj> or do the docs[18:41:19] <Reinhilde> I don't think that's how it works[18:41:30] <rennj> yeah right[18:41:33] <mbnt> rennj, But if its a bad install, the best doc in the world will not save me.[18:42:33] <psydroid> newish hardware may cause problems, yes[18:43:16] <psydroid> but if you have separate drives for each different operating system, you can do a reinstall without any problems[18:43:19] <rennj> ifconfig rge0 dhcp status[18:43:45] <rennj> see thats old foo[18:44:27] <Reinhilde> i must say I've never used OI so i don't know the vagaries of your dhcp configuration[18:44:57] <Reinhilde> omnios has always been pretty primo to me about the network.[18:45:25] * psydroid goes and gets his laptop with an OI install in QEMU[18:46:29] <rennj> meh..i prefer solaris 1.x or 2.x-9...10/11 and such..is mess of new[18:46:52] <rennj> new new new..smf dtrace zones zfs crossbow..and patch patch patch[18:48:06] <rennj> get off my lan![18:48:36] <mbnt> rennj, "interface is not under DHCP control"[18:48:49] <psydroid> well, I first ran solaris 10 and opensolaris on real hardware[18:48:59] <mbnt> for " ifconfig rge0 dhcp status"[18:49:08] <rennj> yeah cause you messed up on the install i think..so you see those docs..how to add to role[18:49:24] <rennj> all you need to do is add role,and activate it[18:49:26] <rennj> its in the docs[18:49:39] <mbnt> add role?[18:49:40] <Reinhilde> That seems to be a distraction[18:49:55] <Reinhilde> mbnt: are you root when you're doing these things?[18:49:59] <mbnt> yes[18:50:12] <Reinhilde> roles should be no factor then[18:50:18] <rennj> did you even read the link i posted...[18:50:30] <rennj> dhcp in the GZ[18:50:46] <rennj> yeah i bet on the install it does it all for you...[18:51:03] <rennj> since that automatic for new foo[18:51:25] <rennj> <rennj> OpenIndiana 151a is by default installed to use NWAM and DHCP dynamic IPs. ....[18:51:42] <rennj> GZ is the global zone[18:53:32] <rennj> https://docs.openindiana.org/handbook/systems-administration/#configuring-networking[18:53:38] <rennj> Automatic Configuration (NWAM)[19:04:20] <mbnt> I appreciate the help here anyways, it is nice you tried. bThank you.[19:05:03] <rennj> After an interface has been assigned to the profile, its IP configuration has to be defined:4[19:06:03] <rennj> meh..[19:06:36] <rennj> reinstall..if you dont want to trouble shoot thru the mess..dhcp on rge0 should be part of the first few questions[19:06:56] <rennj> if your cable modem is doing rfc1918 ...[19:07:09] <rennj> or dhcp..i have no clue[19:07:46] <mbnt> I used OI on an old laptop, it worked great. But that laptop was since trashed. : - ([19:08:11] <mbnt> But help is how ya get new blood.[19:09:52] <mbnt> But if newish hardware causes issues, will there not be a point when OI will then be obsolete?[19:12:51] <psydroid> I don't think so as long as new people join and start developing[19:13:42] <psydroid> there has been a vacuum after sun got acquired[19:14:00] <mbnt> In the immortal words of Steve Ballmer. "DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS!"[19:14:55] <psydroid> I think even Windows has a problem now in that they don't teach Windows programming at university anymore[19:15:16] <psydroid> at least not at my university, which may be an exception or not[19:16:15] <mbnt> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRm0NDo1CiY[20:01:52] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@cpe-67-253-141-249.rochester.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:06:19] *** mbnt <mbnt!~fbm@toroon0952w-lp130-02-69-158-46-37.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[20:18:12] *** panorain <panorain!~panorain@airstream-farmers-pppoe-10-ws-216.direct.airstreamcomm.net> has joined #openindiana[22:32:08] *** panorain <panorain!~panorain@airstream-farmers-pppoe-10-ws-216.direct.airstreamcomm.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[23:06:50] *** mbnt <mbnt!~fbm@2607:fea8:4c0:b9e:7ca5:45db:f35f:265c> has joined #openindiana[23:09:23] <mbnt> What if I wrote a folk song about OpenIndiana?[23:18:15] *** arnoldoree <arnoldoree!~arnoldore@ranoldoree.plus.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:19:12] *** panorain <panorain!~panorain@airstream-farmers-pppoe-10-ws-216.direct.airstreamcomm.net> has joined #openindiana[23:44:41] *** mbnt <mbnt!~fbm@2607:fea8:4c0:b9e:7ca5:45db:f35f:265c> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)