November 8, 2019 
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November 8, 2019 [00:29:38] <popgreen> LOL: for my daughter ?[00:38:44] <alanc> if your daughter wants to run an old-school Unix OS, why not?[00:39:27] <alanc> though most kids these days prefer something more on the modern side than the classic side[00:45:31] *** tsukasa <tsukasa!~tsukasa@unaffiliated/tsukasa> has quit IRC (Quit: It never truly ends...)[01:03:25] *** arnoldoree <arnoldoree!~arnoldore@ranoldoree.plus.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:24:42] *** tsukasa <tsukasa!~tsukasa@unaffiliated/tsukasa> has joined #openindiana[01:51:24] *** Gathis <Gathis!~TheBlack@unaffiliated/gathis> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:55:10] *** melliott <melliott!~melliott@speed.ncsa.illinois.edu> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[02:51:37] *** ball <ball!~ball@99-60-12-181.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net> has joined #openindiana[02:56:23] *** javashin <javashin!~javashin@unaffiliated/javashin> has joined #openindiana[02:56:27] <javashin> hello[02:56:41] <javashin> guys there is a problem in the new OI[02:57:01] <javashin> firefox dont work on any virtual machine[02:57:05] <javashin> qemu[02:57:07] <javashin> vmware[02:57:11] <javashin> virtualbox[02:57:20] <toasterson> javashin (IRC): it needs much RAM[02:57:23] <javashin> using 2 cpus 4 g of ram[02:57:25] <ball> javashin: Does it ran natively?[02:57:35] <javashin> i dont know[02:57:44] <toasterson> did you read the note about it being slugish at first boot?[02:58:01] <toasterson> does it crash?[02:58:03] <javashin> yeah i rebooted a few times[02:58:11] <javashin> no i had to kill it[02:58:14] <javashin> a lot[02:58:30] <javashin> remove .mozilla and .cache/mozilla[02:58:30] <toasterson> how much swap have you allocated[02:58:33] <javashin> on home[02:59:05] <javashin> i set on all the virtual machines 4g and 2cpus[02:59:15] <toasterson> swap space on disk[02:59:33] <javashin> i used a virtual hd of 20 g on qemu[02:59:59] <javashin> i tried to run form the live image in vmware and virtualbox firefox and nothing[03:00:17] <toasterson> what is the output of swap -lh[03:01:16] <toasterson> live image with 4gb might not work at all with firefox[03:01:31] <javashin> i dont know now i removed everything on my real hardware i have a problem with the audio pulseaudio dont run and i got audiohd problem a lot of errors on boot about it[03:01:32] <toasterson> it tries to allocate swapspace on disk[03:01:59] <toasterson> did you install it into the vm?[03:02:06] <javashin> yes[03:02:14] <javashin> 20g on qemu[03:02:31] <toasterson> what is the output of swap -lh on that VM[03:03:06] <javashin> like i say i removed everything[03:03:16] <javashin> i need to install again[03:03:24] <toasterson> then do that.[03:03:29] <javashin> kool[03:04:06] <toasterson> firefox needs a lot of swapspace and ram it might well be the case that it is terrible slow in live image inside a 4Gb VM[03:06:05] <ball> I feel as though I should test OpenIndiana on my "new" desktop PC[03:27:34] *** alanc <alanc!~alanc@inet-hqmc01-o.oracle.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[03:28:01] *** alanc <alanc!~alanc@inet-hqmc01-o.oracle.com> has joined #openindiana[03:28:01] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o alanc[04:04:18] *** javashin <javashin!~javashin@unaffiliated/javashin> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:08:06] <Reinhilde> toasterson: running lots of make jobs at once on omnios i get scattershot sigbus (i call it the epilepsy bug). possibly javashin has the same problem?[04:09:18] <toasterson> quality of kms may indeed not be all that high. So very probably[04:09:37] <toasterson> he does[04:17:18] <rennj> live image in vmware works fine here[04:17:30] <rennj> 15.1.0 vmware player anyway[04:18:31] <rennj> and i only gave it 3800MB, firefox was slugging, compared to linux vm with same 3800 running firefox 70[04:18:45] <rennj> but i was running in live mode[04:19:38] <rennj> the new ddu launched even[04:27:07] <rennj> https://pasteboard.co/IFG24PK.png boot[04:27:26] <rennj> usb2 ehci misconfigure...[04:27:35] <rennj> vmware foo[04:28:24] *** CaptainTobin is now known as NewTobinParadigm[04:36:56] *** ball <ball!~ball@99-60-12-181.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net> has left #openindiana ("Dishes")[07:33:42] *** amrfrsh <amrfrsh!~Thunderbi@185.212.171.68> has quit IRC (Quit: amrfrsh)[07:35:42] <mnowak_> rennj, install and give the system 6G of swap and Firefox will run just fine[07:37:01] <mnowak_> illumos and Linux have different ways to allocate memory. on illumos if memory can't be backed with swap, allocation is denied, Linux does not care and hopes for OOM killer[07:38:23] <rennj> nah..[07:40:00] <rennj> enough solaris to last a life time..[07:40:30] <rennj> sun e6800 was las sun box i touched[07:42:02] <tsoome> :D[07:44:19] <rennj> right above it was a system z and either s10k or s25k...[07:44:33] <rennj> $$$[07:45:06] <rennj> system z looked sexier than the sun on that floor[07:45:08] <tsoome> yep.[07:45:23] <tsoome> no idea about z anyhow.D[07:45:34] <rennj> big blue ibm[07:46:01] <rennj> nah their shit is solid,[07:47:36] <tsoome> yea, I know they did it but never seen one:)[07:47:48] <rennj> best system i ran was hp v2600 technically[07:48:04] <rennj> 128cpu/128GB of ram in 4 cabinets..it could go to[07:48:15] <rennj> 32cpu/32GB per cabinet[07:48:26] <rennj> at one time on top500 list[07:48:59] <rennj> hp charge $10k per month just for maintenance contract[07:49:13] <rennj> that was like 2 decades ago[07:50:59] <rennj> how about 500 sparc 5's across 3building and 9floors[07:51:13] <rennj> client workstations..a real sun network[07:51:35] <rennj> running WABI for win3.1 stupid no less[07:51:49] <tsoome> our 2 universities were donated (outdated) ibm mainframes, power bill for year was amount of money you could buy 2 sparcstation 20’s and at that time the power was cheap still:D[07:56:12] <rennj> never been better time in hardware..32core/64thread home workstation...[07:56:50] <rennj> my 4core laptop at 15watts would be great if i could bump the ram to 32GB and ssd 2TB..and its 2015 model[07:57:32] <rennj> this is amd a10 cpu does support 32GB of ram, oem bios is limit,,,just like my radeon video...[07:58:15] <rennj> 1 box or 2 even SOHO with HA[08:09:48] *** fanta1 <fanta1!~fanta1@p200300F76BC40A00FD4A54D4592F43BC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #openindiana[08:23:02] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@148-52-235-80.sta.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Quit: tsoome)[08:35:34] *** NewTobinParadigm is now known as CaptainTobin[09:17:10] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@148-52-235-80.sta.estpak.ee> has joined #openindiana[09:19:49] <popgreen> hi[09:20:04] <popgreen> rennj, LOL[11:25:58] *** fling_ <fling_!~fling@fsf/member/fling> has joined #openindiana[11:28:02] *** fling <fling!~fling@fsf/member/fling> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[11:28:03] *** fling_ is now known as fling[11:46:11] *** arnoldoree <arnoldoree!~arnoldore@ranoldoree.plus.com> has joined #openindiana[11:59:37] *** khng300 <khng300!~khng300@unaffiliated/khng300> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC 1.7.5 - 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