November 6, 2019 
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November 6, 2019 [00:09:36] *** melliott <melliott!~melliott@speed.ncsa.illinois.edu> has joined #openindiana[00:14:27] *** melliott <melliott!~melliott@speed.ncsa.illinois.edu> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[00:20:52] <Jefe> Well, it looks like I need to convert this domU to HVM. :( Support for HVM seems gone.[00:21:40] <Jefe> s/HVM(?!\.)/PVM/2[00:21:54] <Jefe> s/2//[00:43:48] <Jefe> Holy crap! Ok, my dom0 rebooted, apparently it got around to the command I typed a couple hours ago. So I get back in, reset the config file to boot from the original BE just to see what would happen, and restarted it. I have a login prompt![00:44:25] <Jefe> And I'm able to ssh in.[00:54:32] *** melliott <melliott!~melliott@speed.ncsa.illinois.edu> has joined #openindiana[01:00:50] *** melliott <melliott!~melliott@speed.ncsa.illinois.edu> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[01:04:00] *** tsukasa <tsukasa!~tsukasa@unaffiliated/tsukasa> has joined #openindiana[01:51:31] *** melliott <melliott!~melliott@speed.ncsa.illinois.edu> has joined #openindiana[03:03:07] *** aeryndunham <aeryndunham!~quassel@c-73-85-193-185.hsd1.fl.comcast.net> has joined #openindiana[03:13:42] *** aeryndunham <aeryndunham!~quassel@c-73-85-193-185.hsd1.fl.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[03:26:52] *** alanc <alanc!~alanc@inet-hqmc01-o.oracle.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[03:27:19] *** alanc <alanc!~alanc@inet-hqmc01-o.oracle.com> has joined #openindiana[03:27:19] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o alanc[04:32:43] *** triffid <triffid!triffid@lovecraft-ipv6.mcclung.systems> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1)[04:55:32] *** melliott <melliott!~melliott@speed.ncsa.illinois.edu> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[05:14:15] *** melliott <melliott!~melliott@speed.ncsa.illinois.edu> has joined #openindiana[05:20:14] *** melliott <melliott!~melliott@speed.ncsa.illinois.edu> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[05:38:36] *** melliott <melliott!~melliott@speed.ncsa.illinois.edu> has joined #openindiana[05:43:36] *** melliott <melliott!~melliott@speed.ncsa.illinois.edu> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[06:26:52] *** melliott <melliott!~melliott@speed.ncsa.illinois.edu> has joined #openindiana[08:39:38] *** arnoldoree <arnoldoree!~arnoldore@ranoldoree.plus.com> has joined #openindiana[10:00:44] *** arnoldoree <arnoldoree!~arnoldore@ranoldoree.plus.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:45:26] *** amrfrsh <amrfrsh!~Thunderbi@95.174.67.172> has quit IRC (Quit: amrfrsh)[12:16:58] *** CompanionCube <CompanionCube!znc@sortix/rw-citizenship/companioncube> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[12:46:03] *** amrfrsh <amrfrsh!~Thunderbi@eduroamerw3-47-154.uni-paderborn.de> has joined #openindiana[12:59:51] *** bavrogar_ <bavrogar_!~swerth@92.64.244.91> has joined #openindiana[13:01:15] *** bavrogar <bavrogar!~swerth@92.64.244.91> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[13:25:55] *** fanta1 <fanta1!~fanta1@p200300F76BC6D400D52CA5B415FA13F9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #openindiana[13:36:06] *** bavrogar_ is now known as bavrogar[14:19:29] *** amrfrsh <amrfrsh!~Thunderbi@eduroamerw3-47-154.uni-paderborn.de> has quit IRC (Quit: amrfrsh)[15:17:09] *** fanta1 <fanta1!~fanta1@p200300F76BC6D400D52CA5B415FA13F9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: fanta1)[15:25:57] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@cpe-67-253-141-249.rochester.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:43:13] *** javashin <javashin!~javashin@unaffiliated/javashin> has joined #openindiana[15:43:15] <javashin> hello[15:43:30] <javashin> where i can get an snapshot of 2019.10[15:44:35] <javashin> i want to help get clear all the remaining issues bugs that keeps this release behind schedule[15:44:39] <javashin> :0[15:45:14] <javashin> also there is no support for zfsonlinux yet ?[15:45:27] <javashin> like Zof zfsonfreebsd ?[15:45:44] <javashin> im using my freebsd inside zfsonlinux pool[15:45:54] <javashin> i would like to do the same[15:46:02] <javashin> any experimental way to do this ?[15:51:30] <tsoome> run pkg update.[15:57:39] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-03.gwi.net> has joined #openindiana[15:58:08] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-03.gwi.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[16:00:39] <toasterson> javashin (IRC): yes do not enable features that zfsonlinux has that we do not. I.e only ever issue a zfs upgrade from illumos.[16:01:17] <javashin> but[16:02:11] <javashin> the last version 2019.04 only wanted to install on a freebsd pool and never found the zfsonlinux pool[16:02:17] <javashin> why ?[16:02:21] <toasterson> 2019.10 or rather 2019.11 is being published as we speak[16:02:35] <javashin> really ?[16:02:46] <javashin> 2019.11 where jijiji[16:02:52] <javashin> link[16:02:55] <toasterson> yep just a few documentation tasks left[16:03:01] <javashin> nice[16:03:05] <toasterson> have 2-3 days patience[16:03:05] <javashin> my friend[16:03:10] <javashin> no problem[16:03:47] <toasterson> i usually install linux on the existing openindiana pool as linux usually has more features as illumos these days[16:04:05] <tsoome> 2019.04 or 2019.10 or like is just snapshot. you install it and then you run pkg update as often as you can.[16:04:10] <toasterson> also if your pools have the same name they need to be imported with different names[16:04:48] <toasterson> tsoome (IRC): not if you need a newer live image to see the pool properly :)[16:05:16] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-03.gwi.net> has joined #openindiana[16:06:42] <tsoome> we do not have releases or branches. it is really just one line of updates landing in and 2x in year the iso is created. as simple as that.[16:06:43] *** amrfrsh <amrfrsh!~Thunderbi@185.212.171.68> has joined #openindiana[16:09:08] <javashin> cool[16:09:30] <javashin> toasterson, so no image yet ?[16:09:46] <javashin> want to install right away[16:11:37] <tsoome> this also means that you update by running pkg update, existing installations have no use from more recent iso.[16:14:21] <javashin> ok then im going to install on some virtual hd[16:14:30] <javashin> then use qemu-nbd in linux[16:14:38] <javashin> connect it to /dev/nbd0[16:14:44] <javashin> import the virtual pool[16:14:55] <javashin> after upgrade of course[16:15:10] <javashin> and dedup it to a new zfsonlinux pool[16:15:21] <javashin> with cpdup -vvv -o[16:15:27] <javashin> let me do it[16:26:27] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-03.gwi.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving...)[16:29:23] *** amrfrsh <amrfrsh!~Thunderbi@185.212.171.68> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[16:35:23] <toasterson> javashin (IRC): no no image yet wait a few days for that.[16:35:51] <javashin> im going to do that ^^ and get last bits[16:36:13] <toasterson> curious how it goes. I have never heard of cpdup before[16:36:39] <javashin> matt dillon dragonflybsd made it[16:36:42] <javashin> cpdup[16:37:20] <javashin> i got it on my gentoo freebsd and everywhere[16:55:54] *** javashin <javashin!~javashin@unaffiliated/javashin> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:56:26] *** javashin <javashin!~javashin@unaffiliated/javashin> has joined #openindiana[16:59:05] *** arnoldoree <arnoldoree!~arnoldore@ranoldoree.plus.com> has joined #openindiana[17:16:01] *** javashin <javashin!~javashin@unaffiliated/javashin> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:19:14] *** CompanionCube <CompanionCube!znc@sortix/rw-citizenship/companioncube> has joined #openindiana[19:07:15] *** amrfrsh <amrfrsh!~Thunderbi@185.212.171.68> has joined #openindiana[19:26:03] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-04.gwi.net> has joined #openindiana[20:02:42] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-04.gwi.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:03:18] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-03.gwi.net> has joined #openindiana[20:25:41] *** ita <ita!~ita@unaffiliated/ita> has quit IRC (Quit: -)[20:26:52] *** ita <ita!~ita@unaffiliated/ita> has joined #openindiana[20:27:15] *** ita <ita!~ita@unaffiliated/ita> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:28:10] *** ita <ita!~ita@unaffiliated/ita> has joined #openindiana[20:47:44] *** ita <ita!~ita@unaffiliated/ita> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:20:45] *** s0n1c- <s0n1c-!8a61ba0a@unaffiliated/luklabs> has joined #openindiana[21:23:54] <s0n1c-> I am trying to install CDE on my OpenIndiana, but I can't. I need to install GCC as I am following the tutorial from the link below. But I am having this error output (paste link). Can anyone help me force the installation of GCC?[21:24:02] <s0n1c-> paste link = https://dpaste.de/3eDk/raw[21:24:09] <s0n1c-> CDE tutorial = https://sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/wiki/OpenIndianaBuild/[21:24:26] <s0n1c-> > Reason: All acceptable versions of 'require' dependency on service/postrun at 0 dot 5.11-0.151.1.5 are obsolete[21:34:07] <toasterson> s0n1c- (IRC): you will need to ping tomww. sfe is a additional software repository and gcc 4.6 does not seem current at all.[21:34:26] <toasterson> we currently run gcc6 if you can use that or illumos still support gcc 4.9[21:35:47] <toasterson> s0n1c- (IRC): afaik that repository is for oi1518a only and not compatible with hipster[21:36:45] <s0n1c-> toasterson ok, thanks.[21:36:53] <s0n1c-> toasterson I executed the command: pkg set-publisher -p http://pkg.openindiana.org/sfe/ sfe[21:37:33] <s0n1c-> toasterson how do i roll back? Because it appears in "pkg publisher"[21:38:09] <toasterson> s0n1c- (IRC): if you are not bound to gcc-4.6 then you could skip that step entirely we have the packages in our repositories although with version major number appended in some cases.[21:38:15] <toasterson> pkg unset-publisher sfe[21:38:57] <s0n1c-> nice![21:39:11] <AmyMalik> why are you trying to install cde[21:40:03] <s0n1c-> AmyMalik I think is pretty![21:40:28] <s0n1c-> Can I install CDE on Hipster?[21:40:48] <toasterson> no clue nobody has tried in a long time[21:41:09] <AmyMalik> well consider trying to install it on the berkeley students first[21:41:11] <toasterson> an interesting experiment for fun though if you have the time/endurance for it[21:42:19] <AmyMalik> where would someone get a copy anyway[21:42:35] <s0n1c-> toasterson But is it possible for me to install a package where this "obsolete" error appears?[21:42:55] <s0n1c-> I would love to install CDE =/[21:43:00] <toasterson> s0n1c- (IRC): no obsolete packages are uninstallable[21:45:37] <s0n1c-> toasterson, AmyMalik how to install gcc on Hipster? pkg install gcc?[21:45:57] <AmyMalik> I don't use OI, but that sounds right[21:46:04] <AmyMalik> I know that it was gcc-8 on my omni machine[21:46:16] <AmyMalik> see the output of pkg search "*gcc*"[21:48:57] <s0n1c-> Cool, I'm trying to install here, thank you very much![21:49:17] <toasterson> oldetst gcc is developer/gcc-49[21:49:29] <s0n1c-> hm nice[21:49:33] <toasterson> we have up to and including developer/gcc-9[21:50:23] <s0n1c-> None are working here =/[21:50:44] <toasterson> have you updates your system after installing?[21:51:55] <s0n1c-> toasterson no '-' pkg upgrade ?[21:52:14] <toasterson> pkg update and then reboot into the new boot environment[21:52:41] <s0n1c-> nice, ok, very thanks![21:57:17] <s0n1c-> toasterson Do you use OpenIndiana?[21:57:32] <toasterson> i am one of the developers yes[21:57:45] <s0n1c-> very nice[21:58:10] <s0n1c-> I tried to install Tribblix, XStreamOS and OmniOS[21:58:24] <s0n1c-> But what I liked the most was Tribblix and OpenIndiana[21:59:12] <toasterson> yeah ptribble made some cool adaptations to his distro to set it apart.[22:00:56] <s0n1c-> Cool, I wanted to use OpenIndiana natively on my notebook, but I had problems with my network card, I was left with the option to virtualize it.[22:01:37] <toasterson> yeah illumos lacks a lot of drivers especially Wifi[22:01:44] <s0n1c-> My notebook has 8GB of RAM, I left 4GB for OpenIndiana and I intend to use it in fullscreen...[22:01:52] <s0n1c-> yes =/[22:02:12] <toasterson> that works quite well yes[22:02:52] <s0n1c-> I know it's noob thing to use virtualized OpenIndiana like it's a native system. But with 4GB of RAM I do everything.[22:04:11] <s0n1c-> But I wanted to use it natively, maybe in the future I can.[22:04:45] <s0n1c-> toasterson How long have you been a developer at OpenIndiana?[22:12:49] *** lgtaube <lgtaube!~lgt@91.109.28.145> has joined #openindiana[22:17:35] *** s0n1c- <s0n1c-!8a61ba0a@unaffiliated/luklabs> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:20:45] <toasterson> s0n1c- (IRC): no worries everybody has to start somewhere. I had OI virtualised for the longest time until I re used two old HTPC's as servers[22:21:05] <toasterson> since about 2015 iirc[22:21:33] <toasterson> contributor at first of course[22:32:30] <AmyMalik> he left toasterson[22:33:03] <AmyMalik> i've done a /memoserv send luklabs yo, I have 7gb of ram (on a freebsd machine) and can't do jack s!!t[22:33:07] <AmyMalik> l= = 48[22:33:52] <toasterson> i keep forgetting that irc does not persist conversations. I have matrix :)[22:34:35] <AmyMalik> grrrr[22:34:39] <AmyMalik> And this is why I hate matrix.[22:35:12] <psydroid> I have matrix too[22:35:34] <AmyMalik> I just use an IRC client like a normal fuckin human being[22:38:05] <psydroid> I connect to the Matrix network as well as several IRC servers on several devices, so this is most convenient to me[22:43:48] *** CompanionCube is now known as shikhin[22:43:58] *** shikhin is now known as shikhinCube[23:01:58] *** Kurlon_ <Kurlon_!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-04.gwi.net> has joined #openindiana[23:02:37] *** Kurlon_ <Kurlon_!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-04.gwi.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:05:54] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-03.gwi.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[23:13:54] *** AmyMalik is now known as waark[23:28:08] *** waark is now known as AmyMalik[23:33:27] *** arnoldoree <arnoldoree!~arnoldore@ranoldoree.plus.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:34:20] *** ita <ita!~ita@unaffiliated/ita> has joined #openindiana[23:45:31] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@cpe-67-253-141-249.rochester.res.rr.com> has joined #openindiana