November 4, 2019 
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November 4, 2019 [00:44:23] *** amrfrsh <amrfrsh!~Thunderbi@95.174.67.172> has quit IRC (Quit: amrfrsh)[00:54:56] *** phobos <phobos!~phobos@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:55:25] *** phobos <phobos!~phobos@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724> has joined #openindiana[01:06:02] *** saint_dogbert <saint_dogbert!~phobos@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724> has joined #openindiana[01:09:39] *** phobos <phobos!~phobos@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[02:58:36] *** saint_dogbert <saint_dogbert!~phobos@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[03:07:21] <panorain> Jefe, What are your latest thoughts as far as a professional about this 'openindiana' if you do not mind me asking. I am an entry level user if any since 64 bit is required. I just wanted get a bit more feeling about this. Of course I will not bother the forums by being a jerk.[03:26:21] *** alanc <alanc!~alanc@inet-hqmc01-o.oracle.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[03:26:48] *** alanc <alanc!~alanc@inet-hqmc01-o.oracle.com> has joined #openindiana[03:26:49] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o alanc[03:42:43] *** magyar <magyar!~magyar@unaffiliated/magyar> has joined #openindiana[04:48:02] *** panorain <panorain!~panorain@airstream-farmers-pppoe-10-ws-216.direct.airstreamcomm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[04:57:01] *** panorain <panorain!~panorain@airstream-farmers-pppoe-10-ws-216.direct.airstreamcomm.net> has joined #openindiana[04:59:29] *** panorain <panorain!~panorain@airstream-farmers-pppoe-10-ws-216.direct.airstreamcomm.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[06:03:07] *** s0n1c- <s0n1c-!8a61ba0a@unaffiliated/luklabs> has joined #openindiana[06:04:52] <s0n1c-> I installed OpenIndiana, but my Firefox says: navigator.mediaDevices / navigator.getUserMedia is undefined. Does anyone know how I can enable it so I can use these features?[06:22:01] <rennj> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Navigator/mediaDevices[06:22:10] <rennj> The Navigator.mediaDevices read-only property returns a MediaDevices object, which provides access to connected media input devices like cameras and microphones, as well as screen sharing.[06:22:55] <rennj> sounds like no audio mixer foo[06:23:35] <rennj> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/MediaDevices/getUserMedia[06:24:02] <s0n1c-> Yes, but my Firefox 66 which came installed by default on the latest OpenIndiana, this feature is disabled. Is it possible to enable it in any way?[06:24:59] <rennj> no clue...[06:25:22] <rennj> i dont get that error..but its been while since i booted tried out hipster...[06:25:47] <rennj> i seem to recall i gave youtube a spin[06:26:33] <s0n1c-> Here is with this problem, I installed it recently.[06:27:07] <s0n1c-> I downloaded the full DVD ...[06:27:28] <rennj> you look at deviceinfo[06:30:14] <rennj> Device Driver Utility (ddu) is your friend (it is located by default under Applications->System Tools).[06:30:44] <mnowak_> s0n1c-, our Firefox has WebRTC disabled, because it wasn't ported yet, perhaps that's what's blocking you?[06:32:28] <rennj> heh[06:32:37] <rennj> microphone check is pointless i guess[06:33:16] <s0n1c-> hm, yes[06:33:27] <s0n1c-> Thanks in advance![06:33:38] <s0n1c-> Where can I find the installation packages to install manually on OpenIndiana?[06:34:29] <s0n1c-> I installed OpenIndiana a few days ago, I had never used it in my life, but I'm really enjoying it.[06:35:15] <s0n1c-> rennj, Thanks for reminding me of the Device Driver Utility, I had used it before to try to find driver for my network card.[06:35:38] <mnowak_> if you mean to build Firefox from sources, then start with http://docs.openindiana.org/dev/userland/[06:36:31] <mnowak_> packages are installed via the pkg(1) tool, see its man page[06:36:57] <s0n1c-> No, I wanted to find a location with installation packages (Standalone) ... Because I have no internet access on my OpenIndiana[06:38:42] <rennj> https://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster/en/index.shtml[06:38:45] <rennj> https://www.opencsw.org/[06:38:58] <rennj> you also got netbsd pkgsrc foo option[06:39:11] <rennj> sunfreeware but they want money now $$$[06:39:46] <s0n1c-> I don't understand electronics, but I can program a little in some languages. I made a device with a speaker and a microphone. I beep and read the data on another computer. This will be my interface for using Internet in my OpenIndiana.[06:41:49] <s0n1c-> But even optimizing the code doesn't get fast. That's why I wanted to access my webcam, to make a device that uses the camera to read the information, not the sound...[06:42:40] <s0n1c-> This way it would get faster. However Firefox does not support userGetMedia ... I will try to access my device via Java or C ...[06:47:38] <mnowak_> your cam likely won't work as illumos supports only like 4 (sic) cameras[06:49:59] <mnowak_> I fail to understand, why you try to find the Firefox installation package. if you installed from Live/gui medium, you have Firefox installed, if you installed from Text/Minimal medium, having Firefox install package won't help much as you need much more dependencies[06:52:12] <s0n1c-> my computer: notebook asus x450l, my network cards are: atheros qca8171, atheros ar9485 wireless. Is there any USB network card I can buy that works on OpenIndiana?[06:52:41] <mnowak_> the thing with our package management is that there are no installation packages similar to .deb or .rpm. content of the Firefox component is just a set of files in repo[06:53:03] <s0n1c-> I wanted to find the repository link to have javac and other tools ...[06:53:57] <s0n1c-> mnowak_So in OpenIndiana it is not possible to install packages if you do not have Internet access?[06:55:34] <mnowak_> s0n1c-, look for "Asix AX88772A" chip, it's very cheap, mostly works: http://docs.openindiana.org/community-hcl/components/#network-interface-controllers[06:55:57] <mnowak_> some older intel wifi cards work too: http://docs.openindiana.org/community-hcl/components/#wifi-adapters[06:57:12] <mnowak_> you can but you need to grab the install package on another OI first (e.g. a VM with OI), transfer it to the machine without Internet and install from the package[06:57:30] <s0n1c-> Thank you![06:59:26] <s0n1c-> mnowak_ I'm sorry for being very beginner. But could you give me a link teaching how to do this? Is the package saved to any default directories? And can I just take the package, copy it to a USB stick, and install it with some command on my laptop without internet access?[07:14:09] <mnowak_> this is how you retrieve the install package: pkgrecv -a -s http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster -d /tmp/firefox.p5p web/browser/firefox[07:15:04] <mnowak_> but first you need an OI instance with Internet connection (like a VM), where you can download it[07:15:29] <s0n1c-> nice, yes![07:15:29] <mnowak_> you can't use a web browser to get it[07:16:42] <s0n1c-> mnowak_ And to install it on another machine, how is the command I type? Something similar to dpkg -i package.deb?[07:17:18] <mnowak_> either: pkg apply-hot-fix /tmp/firefox.p5p[07:18:00] <mnowak_> or: pkg set-publisher -g file:///tmp/firefox.p5p userland; pkg install firefox[07:18:17] <s0n1c-> nice![07:19:34] <mnowak_> gotta go now, good luck[07:20:13] <s0n1c-> thanks![07:21:11] <s0n1c-> I'm leaving too. Guys, thank you so much for your help! God bless you.[07:21:21] *** s0n1c- <s0n1c-!8a61ba0a@unaffiliated/luklabs> has quit IRC (Quit: s0n1c-)[07:34:49] *** amrfrsh <amrfrsh!~Thunderbi@95.174.67.172> has joined #openindiana[07:34:58] *** amrfrsh <amrfrsh!~Thunderbi@95.174.67.172> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[07:37:02] <rennj> heh[08:43:48] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@148-52-235-80.sta.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Quit: tsoome)[09:22:38] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@148-52-235-80.sta.estpak.ee> has joined #openindiana[10:32:16] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@148-52-235-80.sta.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Quit: tsoome)[10:38:31] *** arnoldoree <arnoldoree!~arnoldore@ranoldoree.plus.com> has joined #openindiana[11:06:15] *** totalburn <totalburn!dc745688@220.116.86.136> has joined #openindiana[11:16:37] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@148-52-235-80.sta.estpak.ee> has joined #openindiana[11:27:44] <totalburn> I just installed openindiana on a virtual machine again and I felt it still imcomplemet.[11:27:49] <totalburn> It's very slow and firefox won't open.[11:28:04] <totalburn> mate is hard to use.[11:28:43] <totalburn> Bad design, resolution setting is not easily found, scrolling doesn't work. Where is the VT?[11:28:50] <totalburn> Blueprint theme is broken too.[11:29:10] <totalburn> The most critical problem for me is that I can't type korean, and even ibus-korean is not installed by default.[11:29:18] <totalburn> I tried to build ibus-hangul myself, but firefox doesn't open, I can't do further.[11:29:46] <toasterson> you need more than 4G RAM and a lot of swap[11:30:06] <toasterson> firefox's memory allocator is hungry for swap space since they added rust[11:31:22] <toasterson> the desktop has as main goal to be as comaptible as posible to older releases we have no artists and dedicated devs to make something beautiful.[11:32:18] <toasterson> vt's have been disabled in opensolaris based distros by default since 2010? maybe a bit later. you must re enable them or install the text install image[11:32:35] <toasterson> How exactly is blueprint theme broken?[11:33:11] <toasterson> we had a lot of trouble with ibus due to it not being compatible with newer X11 and had removed it due to no demand from the community.[11:33:49] <toasterson> Resolution settings are disabled in virtualbox install the virtualbox guest utilities for proper resolution.[11:38:49] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@148-52-235-80.sta.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Quit: tsoome)[11:50:57] <totalburn> Ok, I allocated more RAM and Firefox is open. I need to try a little more.[11:53:26] <toasterson> if you like more fancy desktops you can use pkgsrc which is the distro independant package repository/managment tool. It's complementary to the default system but it's a partner project together with netbsd and many others.[12:05:38] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@148-52-235-80.sta.estpak.ee> has joined #openindiana[12:16:17] *** arnold_oree <arnold_oree!~arnoldore@ranoldoree.plus.com> has joined #openindiana[12:21:10] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@148-52-235-80.sta.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Quit: tsoome)[12:29:38] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@148-52-235-80.sta.estpak.ee> has joined #openindiana[12:43:10] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@148-52-235-80.sta.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Quit: tsoome)[12:44:28] *** arnold_oree <arnold_oree!~arnoldore@ranoldoree.plus.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[13:07:54] <totalburn> With some problem I can type korean with scim.[13:13:46] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@148-52-235-80.sta.estpak.ee> has joined #openindiana[13:18:57] *** arnoldoree <arnoldoree!~arnoldore@ranoldoree.plus.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:01:40] *** Kurlon_ <Kurlon_!~Kurlon@cpe-67-253-141-249.rochester.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[15:36:31] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@148-52-235-80.sta.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[15:45:22] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-03.gwi.net> has joined #openindiana[15:57:56] *** totalburn <totalburn!dc745688@220.116.86.136> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:30:45] *** totalburn <totalburn!dc745688@220.116.86.136> has joined #openindiana[16:44:28] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-03.gwi.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[16:47:51] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-03.gwi.net> has joined #openindiana[16:54:17] *** kohju <kohju!~kohju@gw.justplayer.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[16:58:18] *** kohju <kohju!~kohju@gw.justplayer.com> has joined #openindiana[17:04:40] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@148-52-235-80.sta.estpak.ee> has joined #openindiana[17:46:53] <mnowak_> totalburn, the problem with Firefox is usually being low on free (i.e. unreserved) swap (see `swap -sh`) more than being low on RAM[18:09:41] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-03.gwi.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[18:19:00] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-03.gwi.net> has joined #openindiana[18:35:22] *** amrfrsh <amrfrsh!~Thunderbi@95.174.67.172> has joined #openindiana[18:36:04] *** Reinhilde is now known as AmyMalik[19:50:12] *** phobos <phobos!~phobos@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724> has joined #openindiana[20:11:19] *** phobos <phobos!~phobos@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:18:25] *** Adura <Adura!~Adura@toroon213mw-lp130-01-67-71-63-157.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #openindiana[20:18:36] *** Adura <Adura!~Adura@toroon213mw-lp130-01-67-71-63-157.dsl.bell.ca> has left #openindiana[20:28:32] *** phobos <phobos!~phobos@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724> has joined #openindiana[20:34:15] *** phobos <phobos!~phobos@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[20:56:56] *** phobos <phobos!~phobos@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724> has joined #openindiana[21:02:35] *** phobos <phobos!~phobos@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[21:10:11] *** arnold_oree <arnold_oree!~arnoldore@ranoldoree.plus.com> has joined #openindiana[22:22:56] *** arnold_oree <arnold_oree!~arnoldore@ranoldoree.plus.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:23:23] *** totalburn <totalburn!dc745688@220.116.86.136> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[22:46:27] *** DrLou <DrLou!~DrLou@c-73-33-92-169.hsd1.nj.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: DrLou)[22:54:56] *** rennj <rennj!~rennj@host-184-166-206-123.chy-wy.client.bresnan.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[22:58:23] *** rennj <rennj!~rennj@host-184-166-206-123.chy-wy.client.bresnan.net> has joined #openindiana[23:21:14] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-03.gwi.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[23:25:27] *** totalburn <totalburn!dc745688@220.116.86.136> has joined #openindiana[23:26:24] *** arnoldoree <arnoldoree!~arnoldore@ranoldoree.plus.com> has joined #openindiana[23:27:11] *** arnoldoree <arnoldoree!~arnoldore@ranoldoree.plus.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:27:39] <totalburn> Ah, I found my last chat is cutted in irclog.[23:28:56] <totalburn> Weirdly libCstd.so.1 is missing I have to install system/library/c++/sunpro. after this I can type korean. For IBUS, I shold investigate more. Thanks for help.[23:30:29] *** phobos <phobos!~phobos@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724> has joined #openindiana[23:31:43] *** totalburn <totalburn!dc745688@220.116.86.136> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:32:54] *** _0x5eb_ <_0x5eb_!~seb@seb-hpws2.w1.tele.crt1.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Goodbye!)[23:33:20] *** DrLou <DrLou!~DrLou@c-73-33-92-169.hsd1.nj.comcast.net> has joined #openindiana[23:33:20] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DrLou[23:33:25] *** _0x5eb_ <_0x5eb_!~seb@seb-hpws2.w1.tele.crt1.net> has joined #openindiana