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[04:19:05] <devinmcelheran> Hi, can someone point me toward some worthwhile materials for learning about OpenIndiana?
[04:20:26] <devinmcelheran> I'm already more than savvy with Linux.
[04:34:13] <rennj> http://docs.openindiana.org/misc/openindiana/ has list of books and such
[04:34:31] <rennj> docs.oracle.com probably be better choice imho..since its solaris
[04:35:48] <rennj> http://docs.openindiana.org/books/about/
[04:36:21] <rennj> Consisting of 41 titles and originally published on July 15th, 2009, this collection represents the final docs release of the OpenSolaris project.
[04:37:02] <rennj> vs https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E53394_01/
[04:37:53] <devinmcelheran> So, you don't recommend the OI docs?
[04:38:10] <rennj> 2009 ---2018
[04:38:14] <rennj> what docs
[04:38:24] <devinmcelheran> https://wiki.openindiana.org/
[04:38:26] <rennj> if you know solaris its solaris fork
[04:38:31] <rennj> solaris 10/11 anyway
[04:38:38] <rennj> nothing like solaris 2.x --9
[04:38:52] <devinmcelheran> I wasn't sure how much of it would be the same since the fork.
[04:39:04] <devinmcelheran> Especially since it was driven by the distaste of Oracle.
[04:39:12] <rennj> eh?
[04:39:21] <rennj> sun opensauce cddl license in like 2005 or so
[04:39:29] <rennj> solaris 10 opensolaris
[04:39:42] <rennj> oracle closed it down
[04:39:48] <devinmcelheran> I read that it's no longer OpenSolaris because the OpenSolaris team didn't want to be associated with Oracle.
[04:39:50] <rennj> 2010 or so
[04:40:25] <devinmcelheran> Oh, so was it more of an issue with licensing of the name, then?
[04:40:51] <devinmcelheran> I know OpenSolaris was forked a few times, or Illumos was.
[04:41:09] <rennj> you know hun
[04:41:18] <rennj> well then
[04:41:24] <rennj> since you know
[04:41:49] <devinmcelheran> I mean, I know that there are now a lot of forks of OpenSolaris/Illumos.
[04:41:57] <devinmcelheran> But I see I was mistaken as to why.
[04:42:59] <rennj> https://www.openindiana.org/documentation/faq/
[04:43:04] <rennj> see the history timeline
[04:43:15] <rennj> https://jimgrisanzio.wordpress.com/opensolaris/
[04:44:52] <rennj> We talked openly about project plans for a year prior to launching. And back in 2004 at Sun that was a very big deal for a large  corporation.
[04:44:54] <rennj> hah!
[04:45:00] <rennj> only a decade late
[04:45:09] <rennj> maybe if they woke up in 1994
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[04:47:50] <devinmcelheran> The first thing I did when after booting up the installation was try to update, but the system was already up to date. Is OI a much more infrequently updated system compared to Linux systems? My limited experience with FreeBSD had me feeling like updates were infrequent, too.
[04:50:26] <rennj> pkg update ?
[04:50:46] <rennj> 1000 pkgs last time i ran it..which was on apr 19
[04:51:04] <devinmcelheran> Weird
[04:51:06] <rennj> https://pasteboard.co/Hhq8gOv.png
[04:51:18] <rennj> hipste dvd install
[04:51:47] <rennj> beadm created first time..
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[04:53:06] <devinmcelheran> Ah, just check the ISO, it's dated the 27th.
[04:56:43] <devinmcelheran> So, if I'm understanding this properly, Illumos is the kernel and system-space, and what appear to be forks or distributions/flavors are different user space configurations?
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[05:13:34] <rennj> http://www.illumos.org/attachments/download/3/illumos.pdf
[05:14:54] <rennj> illumos Project Announcement - August 3, 2010
[05:15:12] <rennj> bah,,,timeout
[05:18:16] <rennj> Major Project Goals 100% ABI compatible with Solaris
[05:18:21] <rennj> dreamers
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[07:51:44] <fosterdv> Hello all, I was wondering if anyone could give me direction to figuring out how to troubleshoot Openindiana 151a7 not booting and experiencing looping panic timeout reboots? If this is the wrong place, may I get someone to direct me to a better place?
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[16:20:29] <fosterdv> Hello all, I was wondering if anyone could give me direction to figuring out how to troubleshoot Openindiana 151a7 not booting and experiencing looping panic timeout reboots? If this is the wrong place, may I get someone to direct me to a better place?
[16:21:16] <zar_> this is probably a good place
[16:21:40] <fosterdv> Thank you.
[16:21:42] <zar_> at least many people seem to find help here :)
[16:21:51] <fosterdv> Haha, I'm hoping to find help here.
[16:23:32] <fosterdv> I'm not too familiar with Openindiana and this is my first exposure to it. I have a system that was set up to be a NAS running Napp-It, and the company who sold it to us is no longer in business, nor did they hand over any information who gets us into system.
[16:24:20] <zar_> not booting and panic reboots sure sounds like a hardware issue though.
[16:25:00] <fosterdv> I can get it to boot to a Pre-Napp-It instance on the same machine and a backup version of something on the same machine.
[16:27:52] <fosterdv> Like, the GRUB gives me three option for logging in, and the only one I'm unable to execute is the normal boot
[16:28:12] <zar_> if the data is on separate volumes, it's most likely possible to reimport them on a clean system. if the debugging doesn't work out.
[16:28:42] <zar_> i can't really help much with the debugging though :(
[16:29:20] <andyf> have you managed to grab a screenshot or photograph of the error screen before it reboots?
[16:29:28] <fosterdv> I was able to run the debugging.
[16:29:37] <fosterdv> I learned how to do that earlier this morning, :D
[16:29:40] <andyf> Ideally you need to enable debugging and get it to stop at the kmdb prompt
[16:29:54] <fosterdv> Yeah I have Andy
[16:30:07] <andyf> ok.. what does it say?
[16:30:36] <fosterdv> 2 seconds, let me get that for you.
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[16:36:56] <fosterdv> There are a lot of lines that say things like -- ixgbe3: DL_BIND_REQ failed: DL_OUTSTATE
[16:38:19] <fosterdv> I tried to boot using -B disable-ixgbe=true -k and was able to start the debugger
[16:39:14] <andyf> right.. is it dropping into the debugger because of a fault? You said earlier it was panicing
[16:39:35] <andyf> In the debugger, ::status will show something if it has intercepted a panic
[17:00:40] <fosterdv> Sorry, it went into the debugger because I used the -k after disabling the driver that was flagging at start.
[17:01:26] <fosterdv> I booted with "-B disable-ixgbe=true -k" to disable the driver and get to the debugger to see if I could figure out why it was panicing.
[17:03:13] <fosterdv> When I do ::status , I see "stopped on: debugger entry trap"
[17:07:29] <fosterdv> ::status -- debugging live kernel (64-bit) on storage | operating system: 5.11 oi_151a7 (i86pc) | image uuid: c55bdb57-417e-6c44-c426-b2b897a2b36c | DTrace state: inactive | stopped on: debugger entry trap
[17:07:51] <andyf> Ok, so ::cont will continue the system boot
[17:07:56] <andyf> and if it panics, you'll end up back in the debugger
[17:10:42] <fosterdv> ::cont gave me -- syncing file systems... done | then started dumping to /dev/zol/dsk/rpool/dump, offset 65536, content: kernel | then showing progress of the dump.
[17:11:02] <andyf> oh, it had already trapped a panic, sorry
[17:11:20] <andyf> in which case, the command I should have suggested was $C
[17:11:28] <fosterdv> Yeah, :(
[17:11:39] <fosterdv> Oh, I can try to get back there and do that the next time.
[17:12:16] <fosterdv> I don't think I've said before, but thank you so much for taking the time to help me through this.. I highly appreciate it.
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[17:14:57] <fosterdv> It did keep me in the debugger, so now do I put the $C
[17:16:38] <andyf> Yes, that prints a stack trace
[17:17:34] <fosterdv> That just took me to the next line without any errors or other output.
[17:17:58] <andyf> That's after the sync/dump but before another reboot?
[17:18:13] <fosterdv> Yeah
[17:18:35] <fosterdv> Should I reboot it and then do that before trying the ::cont
[17:18:38] <andyf> Yes
[17:18:49] <andyf> Hopefully it will provide a clue about where it's crashing
[17:18:59] <fosterdv> Okay, I'll reboot it.
[17:19:11] <fosterdv> From the prompt, do I init 0
[17:19:13] <fosterdv> Will that work?
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[17:19:39] <andyf> I need to head off for a bit but keep posting.. people pop in and out at various times and will catch up.
[17:20:06] <andyf> from the kmdb: prompt? no... not sure how to reboot from there actually, ::cont again?
[17:20:35] <fosterdv> You was right, ::cont again rebooted.
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[17:20:47] <fosterdv> Also, okay. I will keep posting. Thank you again for getting me this far.
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[17:39:58] <fosterdv> I was able to take screenshots from the $C output.
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[18:06:57] <fosterdv> A question that I have, how can I change the root password and just get logged into one of the ways that will actually bring up the GUI?
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[18:48:31] <alarcher> fosterdv: root is not a user so you cannot login as root
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[19:07:18] <fosterdv> Oh
[19:09:45] <fosterdv> The two users I have access to, I can't log in as the admin user but I'm able to log in as the editor user, which doesn't have anything more than the ability to log in and I can't see the desktop.
[19:16:35] <alarcher> editor user?
[19:32:03] <fosterdv> The editor user is a user that has access to files via Napp-It.
[19:32:28] <alarcher> ah
[19:33:46] <fosterdv> Any reason I ain't able to access the device via the admin user?
[19:36:30] <alarcher> full root?
[19:36:46] <alarcher> permission issues?
[19:36:59] <alarcher> home dir not mounted?
[19:37:02] <fosterdv> The two users I have access to, "if" I was trying to do it via Napp-It are admin and editor
[19:37:40] <fosterdv> I can log in to Openindiana via editor, but that user has no real permissions, so other than getting logged in, it doesn't have permissions for anything, which include actually setting up a desktop.
[19:38:41] <alarcher> I am not familiar with napp-it sorry
[19:41:33] <fosterdv> Haha, no worries.. I was looking more from the Openindiana side.
[19:41:45] <alarcher> fosterdv: I have not followed the discussion, how are you not able to login as admin? just bounced back?
[19:41:46] <fosterdv> Editor can log in, but that's really as far as that user can get.
[19:42:05] <fosterdv> When I attempt to log in, I get "Authorization Failed".
[19:43:26] <fosterdv> I was able to verify the username/password on the second device to ensure I'm typing it correctly (I can't log into Openindiana, but I can log in to Napp-It), and it works without issues.
[19:44:32] <alarcher> I am reading now the logs of your previous discussion
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[19:47:36] <fosterdv> Thank you
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[20:27:51] <fosterdv> :( alarcher left..
[20:27:56] <fosterdv> Dan.
[20:27:59] <fosterdv> *g
[20:28:00] <fosterdv> Haha.. dang.
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[21:01:34] <fosterdv> If Openindiana doesn't have a root user, what does it have?
[21:01:50] <fosterdv> I'm so lost right now....
[21:02:14] <andyf> Most likely a root role (Role-based Access Control or RBAC)
[21:02:24] <fosterdv> So, do you set up a user and then give them root priv. when you first set up the instance or is there actually a root user that gets set up?
[21:02:43] <andyf> You set up a user and usually assign them to the 'Primary Administrator' role
[21:02:53] <andyf> so one of your users might have that...
[21:03:03] <fosterdv> Ah, okay..
[21:03:26] <fosterdv> The only two users I have are those admin and editor users, and for whatever reason, I can't log in using admin.
[21:03:33] <andyf> If you do, the `pfexec id` should show root...
[21:04:10] <fosterdv> Editor doesn't have privleges that allow it to even set up a desktop when logging in with that user.
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[21:04:42] <fosterdv> Where do I run that command?
[21:04:43] <jollyd> fosterdv: had to run home
[21:05:25] <fosterdv> Not a problem.
[21:07:10] <fosterdv> Do I need to be actually logged in to run 'pfexec id' or where can I run that at to see who that user may be?
[21:07:35] <andyf> Yes, you run it from the shell
[21:15:48] <fosterdv> I have to quickly run get some errands taken care of. Thank you guys for your assistance, and I will further attempt to further troubleshoot as soon as I get back.
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