April 17, 2016 
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How can I find the packages which strictly require ncurses.5?[10:17:49] *** pjama has joined #openindiana[10:19:08] *** alanc has joined #openindiana[10:19:08] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o alanc[10:20:28] *** khfeng has joined #openindiana[10:23:52] *** Alasdairrr has quit IRC[10:24:54] *** Toasterson has joined #openindiana[10:25:01] *** Red_Devil has joined #openindiana[10:25:14] *** rambutan has joined #openindiana[10:25:24] *** Red_Devil is now known as Guest11491[10:26:41] *** trn has joined #openindiana[10:29:28] *** makruger2000 has joined #openindiana[10:32:03] *** Guest8893 has joined #openindiana[10:32:08] *** Meths_ is now known as Meths[10:32:18] *** tomww has joined #openindiana[10:32:18] *** tomww has joined #openindiana[10:32:19] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tomww[10:32:44] *** dillona has joined #openindiana[10:34:59] *** Alasdairrr has joined #openindiana[10:34:59] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Alasdairrr[10:43:04] *** Guest8893 has quit IRC[11:00:33] <avsej> how to distinguish OpenIndiana from SmartOS and others in build script?[11:01:23] <tsoome> you should check for features, not os name;)[11:02:05] <tsoome> altho, there are few cases when you need to deal with os itself and features are the same…[11:02:30] *** samu_ has joined #openindiana[11:02:38] <avsej> smartos ships ncurses 6, and openindiana ncurses 5, to name some, I would prefer just name customized packages after OS where they was built, rather to find out all the differences[11:03:09] *** aaro has quit IRC[11:03:20] <tomww> well, smartos is in my personal view very difficult if you need to extend the set of packages yourself.[11:04:15] <tomww> the "real" IPS based systems are much easiert in that regard. and the specialization in smartos for selling KVM and zones makes it really only optimized for that business.[11:04:50] <tomww> OmniOS is the realiable work horse with a small set of packages, to be extended by pkgsrc or SFE or one of the other 3rd-party repos.[11:05:32] *** trisk has joined #openindiana[11:05:33] *** aaro has joined #openindiana[11:05:57] <tomww> OpenIndiana is the OS close to the style of Solaris 11, including lots of packages, the usable Distro still moving forward (de[11:06:41] <tsoome> pkg-config --variable=version ncurses ?[11:07:00] <tomww> (ongoing development), and as well you need 3rd party package repositories if you need more then what the OS provides (quite natural to not overload it, but OmniOS overdoes a bit in minimization)[11:07:40] <tomww> I beg you pardon, isn't ncurses a quite strange criteria for an OS evaluation?[11:08:49] <tsoome> you really can not evalueate OS, not in any reliable way[11:10:01] <avsej> okay. let me describe my problem as a whole. I'm working on Couchbase, where OpenIndiana is not supported platform (neither SmartOS), but it has several dependencies frozed at specific known working versions, so general practice is to prebuild all of the for every supported platform[11:10:02] <tsoome> if your build is running in smartos zone hosted by dilos for example;)[11:10:39] <avsej> for openindiana it falls back to smartos prebuilt binaries, which in general okay, except erlang, which built with ncurses.so.6[11:11:43] <tsoome> ah, you can poke OI to have ncurses updated;) but its an workaround, not an solution.[11:11:43] <avsej> so I thought to build all deps on openindiana, and let it to pick whatever versions currently in repo, and continue to work with it, at least until openindiana will be officially supported platform[11:12:46] *** InTheWings has joined #openindiana[11:13:04] <avsej> yes, I thought about it, but bump of major version, would cause massive rebuild, and at least everything have to be checked[11:13:27] *** samu_ has quit IRC[11:14:52] <tsoome> yea, and then you have huge issue - which OI;)[11:15:06] <avsej> eventually I would check each dependency one-by-one, but for now I wanted to go with easy path and rebuild everything on OI, bundle it with '-oi' suffix, and upload somewhere. but to do it I need to detect that I'm on OI distribution[11:15:46] <avsej> during bundling, and during pulling dependencies for clean build[11:16:15] <avsej> btw these are deps couchbase bundles into their release: breakpad,curl,erlang,flatbuffers,gperftools,icu4c,jemalloc,libevent,libsqlite3,pysqlite2,python-snappy,snappy,v8[11:17:41] <avsej> would be nice to have something like `lsb_release` :) to detect distribution[11:18:39] *** Exagone313 has joined #openindiana[11:19:09] <tsoome> are you sure the “distribution” will help you in any way? what if on next update the OI will drop ncurses 5 and switch to ncurses 6, and you are facing exactly the same issue once again.[11:19:28] <avsej> I will just rebuild my stuff[11:19:33] <avsej> it is not a problem[11:19:54] <avsej> I want to have set of binary tarballs, which specific for current OI state[11:20:14] <avsej> because I suppose there is only one user of Couchbase, who also use OpenIndiana :)[11:20:22] *** hsp has joined #openindiana[11:20:43] *** tarjo has joined #openindiana[11:23:56] <tarjo> Hello everybody, I couldn't start up and running the current hipster version from usb and dvd. Probably the graphics adapter (Hp Pavillion G6 - Radeon graphics). Tried custom grub for disabling driver, no luck again. So I am waiting for the new version if I can't find a solution.[11:32:05] *** tarjo has quit IRC[11:33:21] *** nikolam has joined #openindiana[11:37:40] *** aaro has quit IRC[11:38:30] *** Toasterson has quit IRC[11:39:28] *** Toasterson has joined #openindiana[11:45:21] <tsoome> you mean the “live” version?[11:45:27] <tsoome> or installed?[11:49:22] *** samu has joined #openindiana[11:51:13] <avsej> when I was installing OI, I noticed that 20141010 iso worked but 20151010 didn't because of broken grub, but I'm not sure if it is problem of tarjo[11:51:38] <avsej> and this one also worked http://buildzone.oi-build.r61.net/OI_GUI_experimental-2015-12-18.iso[11:51:55] *** avsej has left #openindiana[11:52:04] *** avsej has joined #openindiana[12:33:53] *** georgn_ has quit IRC[12:35:48] *** georgn has joined #openindiana[12:54:13] *** CME_ is now known as CME[13:11:20] *** LeftWing has joined #openindiana[13:13:04] *** mfa298 has quit IRC[13:13:33] *** adulteratedjedi has quit IRC[13:13:47] *** adulteratedjedi has joined #openindiana[13:14:03] *** LeftWing__ has quit IRC[13:16:07] *** georgn_ has joined #openindiana[13:18:11] *** georgn has quit IRC[13:19:13] *** notklaatu has quit IRC[13:19:21] *** notklaatu has joined #openindiana[13:20:17] *** mfa298 has joined #openindiana[13:21:46] *** nikolam has quit IRC[13:22:15] *** mfa298_ has joined #openindiana[13:23:24] *** mfa298_ has quit IRC[13:23:24] *** mfa298 has quit IRC[13:26:44] *** mfa298 has joined #openindiana[13:45:49] *** DrLou has joined #openindiana[13:45:50] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DrLou[14:36:51] *** ygeLN has quit IRC[14:37:42] *** ygeLN has joined #openindiana[15:01:53] *** DrLou has quit IRC[15:14:53] *** Toasterson has quit IRC[15:25:01] *** Toasterson has joined #openindiana[16:05:32] *** Toasterson has quit IRC[16:05:44] *** DrLou has joined #openindiana[16:05:44] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DrLou[16:20:02] *** Toasterson has joined #openindiana[16:44:57] *** DrLou has quit IRC[17:10:04] *** makruger2000 has quit IRC[17:14:07] *** aaro has joined #openindiana[17:21:50] *** samu_ has joined #openindiana[17:30:28] *** Kurlon_ has quit IRC[17:30:54] *** samu has quit IRC[17:30:56] *** tomww has quit IRC[17:31:08] *** Kurlon has joined #openindiana[17:34:34] *** alp_ has quit IRC[17:35:01] *** alp__ has joined #openindiana[17:44:22] *** stoxx_ has quit IRC[17:44:29] *** stoxx has joined #openindiana[17:47:25] *** alp__ has quit IRC[17:47:30] *** alp has joined #openindiana[18:02:00] *** alp_ has joined #openindiana[18:02:09] *** alp has quit IRC[18:06:04] *** tomww has joined #openindiana[18:06:05] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tomww[18:06:09] *** alp__ has joined #openindiana[18:06:55] *** alp_ has quit IRC[18:23:02] *** samu has joined #openindiana[18:26:28] *** kohju_ has joined #openindiana[18:27:27] *** Toasterson has quit IRC[18:27:34] *** stoxx_ has joined #openindiana[18:28:15] *** kohju has quit IRC[18:32:00] *** stoxx has quit IRC[18:32:03] *** samu_ has quit IRC[18:50:59] *** LeftWing__ has joined #openindiana[18:52:35] *** georgn has joined #openindiana[18:55:50] *** mfa298_ has joined #openindiana[19:00:50] *** tomww has quit IRC[19:00:56] *** ygeLN has quit IRC[19:00:56] *** mfa298 has quit IRC[19:00:58] *** georgn_ has quit IRC[19:01:00] *** LeftWing has quit IRC[19:01:01] *** hsp has quit IRC[19:02:21] *** ygeLN has joined #openindiana[19:20:42] *** tomww has joined #openindiana[19:20:42] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tomww[19:26:01] *** aaro has quit IRC[19:27:16] *** aaro has joined #openindiana[19:30:05] *** hsp has joined #openindiana[19:32:22] *** tarjo has joined #openindiana[19:33:52] <tarjo> avsej, thank you for your response. It worked !!![19:34:47] <avsej> tarjo, you are welcome[20:13:02] *** LeftWing__ is now known as LeftWing[20:18:23] *** DrLou has joined #openindiana[20:18:38] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DrLou[20:37:56] *** mfa298_ is now known as mfa298[20:40:15] *** tarjo has quit IRC[20:48:01] *** hsp has quit IRC[20:48:29] *** hsp has joined #openindiana[20:48:38] *** hsp has joined #openindiana[20:50:12] *** hsp has joined #openindiana[21:01:33] *** georgn has quit IRC[21:02:02] *** georgn has joined #openindiana[21:25:24] *** georgn has quit IRC[21:25:32] *** georgn_ has joined #openindiana[21:26:41] *** aaro has quit IRC[21:33:24] *** tomww has quit IRC[21:39:42] *** aaro has joined #openindiana[22:00:28] *** patdk-lap has quit IRC[22:13:14] *** patdk-lap has joined #openindiana[22:23:42] *** DrLou has quit IRC[22:28:42] *** adulteratedjedi has quit IRC[22:35:57] *** aaro has quit IRC[22:53:05] *** EisNerd_ has joined #openindiana[22:56:44] *** EisNerd has quit IRC[23:07:30] *** Toasterson has joined #openindiana[23:08:16] *** Toasterson has quit IRC[23:12:51] *** georgn_ has quit IRC[23:13:36] *** InTheWings has quit IRC[23:14:14] *** georgn has joined #openindiana[23:35:36] *** ygeLN_ has joined #openindiana[23:41:24] *** ygeLN has quit IRC[23:41:24] *** mfa298 has quit IRC[23:41:27] *** stoxx_ has quit IRC[23:41:36] *** ygeLN_ is now known as ygeLN[23:48:41] *** stoxx has joined #openindiana