April 11, 2016 
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loved how today on AWS conference, i explained people what illumos is and that Rbac and zones and lightwigth virtualization are started to be production in 2005[22:12:01] <nikolam> (rbac from 1998 sol9 I think?)[22:12:34] <xenol> nikolam: what that conference somewhere in Europe or in NA?[22:12:48] <mrunix> the linux world seems to be "discovering" and "inventing" things that solaris has had for a while, os updates+snapshots, zfs/btrs, zones/lxc containers :/[22:13:54] <tsoome> rbac did appear in trusted solaris 8[22:14:50] <alanc> 1998 would have been Solaris 7 - Solaris 9 didn't ship until 2001 or so[22:15:17] <xenol> alanc: are there any news on docker port to solaris?[22:15:22] <nikolam> xenol, yes, on egreat Irish guy killed itself explaining amazon cloud in Belgrade today[22:15:34] <xenol> I remember reading about it a year or so ago[22:15:42] <nikolam> He spent 9 hours on stage[22:15:43] <alanc> xenol: still being worked on[22:15:58] <alanc> slowed down a bit by the need to get a working Go compiler for SPARC first[22:16:30] <xenol> I imagine it's hard to explain, but I will try[22:16:59] <xenol> if the docker port's code is going to be available, how hard would it be to getting it run on illumos?[22:17:08] <xenol> I mean will be it too much solaris 12 specific?[22:17:17] <alanc> mrunix: and then they saw SMF and decided to make a service management system for linux, but ended up with systemd instead[22:17:26] <xenol> :D[22:17:39] <nikolam> haha alanc , that might be actually true story[22:17:57] <Toasterson> looking at the command syntax[22:18:22] <Toasterson> definatly[22:18:34] <Toasterson> *definetly[22:19:57] <tsoome> despite all the issues (and there are plenty of them!) the sssd and satellite are almost only about decent solutions I have seen in linux.[22:25:18] <leoric> there are too much linux advantages over other OS :) 1) It runs on every server hardware; 2) It's the main platform for development, so it runs all server software; 3) It costs nothing, so don't speak about support :)[22:26:21] <nikolam> scratch 3) , cost doesn't mean much wothout support. :P[22:26:36] <leoric> not here[22:27:04] <nikolam> wel.. from everyone's perspective tree is greener :)[22:28:18] *** DrLou has quit IRC[22:29:04] <nikolam> So I continued to explain what SmartDatacenter is today and what illumos is and what Openindiana its and sometimes.. what happended in between Solarises.. most people just can't get things in so few words[22:29:54] <nikolam> But when I mention spreading docker inside linux zones, everyone is suddenly interested[22:30:48] <xenol> docker is a new cool kid on the playground, which many are interested in (users, developers and managers)[22:30:51] <leoric> of course... I'd also be interested... I doubt we can find yandex search engine for Solaris :)[22:31:23] <leoric> or some luasrv[22:31:23] <mrunix> alanc: ha yes, systemd instead of smf too[22:32:00] <leoric> or <some other unique crap which was never tested on non-Linux box> which our devs want to use :)[22:32:24] <xenol> linux dynamic tracing is also doing great these days[22:32:45] <xenol> so much improvements and are getting fast from unstable to being usable for production use[22:32:58] <xenol> most of the work is pushed by brendan and linux kernel devs[22:33:25] <nikolam> Orcl kind of ported Dtrace partially to Oracle Linux, don't know how far that went, but guess what inspired other tracing techniques. That i normal, everything good is inspiring.[22:35:49] *** leoric has quit IRC[22:37:08] *** melliott has quit IRC[22:44:36] *** merzo has joined #openindiana[22:46:35] *** DrLou has joined #openindiana[22:46:35] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DrLou[22:46:57] *** new4york77 has quit IRC[22:48:05] *** melliott has joined #openindiana[23:04:03] *** Toasterson has quit IRC[23:09:40] *** Kurlon_ has joined #openindiana[23:12:39] *** Kurlon has quit IRC[23:14:06] *** Kurlon_ has quit IRC[23:29:42] *** InTheWings has quit IRC[23:35:54] *** DrLou has quit IRC[23:48:11] *** Kurlon has joined #openindiana