April 2, 2016 
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April 2, 2016 [00:12:32] *** andreasW1 has left #openindiana[00:17:04] *** Kurlon has quit IRC[00:17:45] *** Kurlon has joined #openindiana[00:54:56] *** Kelzier_ has quit IRC[01:08:18] *** kovert has quit IRC[01:16:46] *** aaro has joined #openindiana[01:22:48] *** leoric has quit IRC[02:09:43] *** Kurlon_ has joined #openindiana[02:13:18] *** Kurlon has quit IRC[02:59:57] *** happy-dude has quit IRC[04:25:12] *** aaro has quit IRC[04:26:35] *** aaro has joined #openindiana[05:03:31] *** makruger has quit IRC[05:22:24] *** nikolam has quit IRC[05:24:27] *** nikolam has joined #openindiana[05:25:50] *** jnbek has quit IRC[05:38:03] *** jnbek has joined #openindiana[05:42:28] *** aaro has quit IRC[06:23:46] *** aaro has joined #openindiana[06:34:11] *** leoric has joined #openindiana[06:45:55] *** aaro has quit IRC[06:47:10] *** aaro has joined #openindiana[06:56:45] *** georgn_ has joined #openindiana[06:56:53] *** georgn has quit IRC[07:18:55] *** kohju_ has joined #openindiana[07:21:52] *** kohju has quit IRC[08:27:28] *** InTheWings has joined #openindiana[09:50:22] *** aaro has quit IRC[09:55:19] *** Kelzier has joined #openindiana[10:04:34] *** Toasterson has joined #openindiana[10:25:40] *** Kelzier has quit IRC[10:26:24] *** Kelzier has joined #openindiana[10:26:52] *** MarcelT has quit IRC[10:59:03] *** dijenerate has joined #openindiana[12:05:42] *** merzo has quit IRC[12:20:03] *** merzo has joined #openindiana[12:21:21] *** andreasW1 has joined #openindiana[12:38:44] *** IDoNotKnow is now known as IDoNotCare[12:46:03] *** InTheWings has quit IRC[12:46:10] *** InTheWings has joined #openindiana[13:14:16] <tomww> OI on Sparc is something which Agnar runs, if all goes well I get a zone there to make SFE great on SPARC again[13:24:52] *** makruger has joined #openindiana[13:28:37] <nikolam> OI on SPARC? There were one old ISO made by Martin long ago, called and hosted, but.. don't remember anything after under OI brand[13:28:52] * nikolam got ot go[13:28:58] *** nikolam has quit IRC[13:43:10] *** MarcelT has joined #openindiana[13:44:28] <makruger> There is a sparc section on the new FAQ (which is still in development), but you can see it here: https://github.com/makruger/openindiana-docs/blob/master/openindiana_faq.adoc[13:45:08] <makruger> See section # 15[13:50:26] *** aaro has joined #openindiana[13:57:07] <makruger> I just removed my sparc sunblade 1500 motherboard from one of my PC cases, but if someone is interested in pursuing an OI sparc build, I'd be happy to toss that MB back into another case and help test things.[13:57:58] <tomww> I believe Agnar made it work on a T-Series Hardware or so[14:00:36] <makruger> Not sure how many folks are running T-series hardware at home;-)[14:01:10] <makruger> Does Oracle even make sparc workstations anymore?[14:01:19] <tsoome> nop[14:01:24] <tsoome> only servers[14:01:46] <makruger> Ya...that's what I thought. So, sparc has little value to me personally.[14:02:20] *** frusen has left #openindiana[14:02:29] <tsoome> currently from illumos point of view, the largest value is about finding bugs:)[14:02:34] <makruger> We just got some new sparc servers installed at work. But they might get mad at me for touching any of that:P[14:04:13] <makruger> Seems to me if a business can afford new sparc hardware, they're likely to also want to run S11 on it.[14:05:06] <makruger> But my day job is Wintel support...so what do I know?[14:05:27] <tsoome> its really not about if the can afford the hardware, its about if they have knowledge.[14:12:11] <makruger> Not sure I am understanding what you mean tsoome.[14:14:55] <tsoome> hardware with equal features does have roughly the same cost.[14:16:40] <makruger> So, you're saying an intel server with similar features would cost roughly the same?[14:16:59] <tsoome> yes. but you have hard time finding such machines[14:17:16] <makruger> OK.[14:17:20] <tsoome> so people usually get small “cheap” intel boxes[14:17:38] <tsoome> and “conviniently” forget to add the license costs.[14:18:48] <makruger> ah...so sparc harware would come with a license to run the software?[14:19:56] <makruger> I cannot imagine Windows server 2012 and a bunch of client access licenses would be very inexepensive.[14:19:57] <tsoome> support for os etc, also the built in virtualisation and other things you would need extra software on intel.[14:22:48] <tsoome> like when I was asking our linux guys to check on openstack and the answer was “can’t , we dont have licenses for it” ;)[14:23:29] <makruger> So buying intel hardware is kind of like my recent experience with my new HP ML10v2. Need to buy a license to get ILO working, etc.[14:23:40] <tsoome> exactly.[14:24:17] *** aaro has quit IRC[14:24:18] <makruger> It was a dirt cheap server, but I didn't consider the cost of that ILO license.[14:25:08] <tsoome> and now intel is rolling out those 22 core cpus - happy days for license sellers;)[14:25:33] <makruger> OK...it's all becoming more clear to me now.[14:25:55] *** aaro has joined #openindiana[14:25:58] <makruger> SQL server and a number of middleware apps might be licensed per core, etc.[14:26:08] <tsoome> thats the thing about buying cheap hardware and considering total cost of the solution.[14:26:37] <patdk-lap> ya, everyone changing their licenses from per socket to per core[14:27:20] <patdk-lap> a lot of people are going be switching again from 22core cpu's, to 8core cpus with higher ghz[14:27:23] <makruger> hmm...maybe I should get job as a license reseller:P[14:27:41] <patdk-lap> so many people keep getting these 2ghz thousand core cpus now cause licensing used to be ok for that[14:28:27] <tsoome> and for small business, even those 8 cores are at least 2x more they actually need;)[14:29:15] <tsoome> well, depends on how you define small anyhow:)[14:29:28] <makruger> Couple of years ago I was running my home esxi server on core2duo and it served my needs just fine.[14:29:35] *** georgn_ is now known as georgn[14:31:41] *** kohju__ has joined #openindiana[14:32:26] <patdk-lap> depends, we have a single server that maxes out 24cores for days at a time[14:32:38] <makruger> Was just reading yesterday AMD XEN desktop CPU will have 8 cores and 16 threads.[14:33:25] *** kohju__ has quit IRC[14:34:06] *** kohju_ has quit IRC[14:35:01] *** kohju has joined #openindiana[14:41:16] <makruger> In regards to illumos virtualization, having something like oVirt or Vmware's new web based UI to manage illumos KVM would be a strong selling point. Even having virt-manager working would be nice.[14:43:05] <makruger> Though when I get some time I need to play with kvmadm.[14:49:04] <makruger> Was just thinking I should put together a table comparing "Included" features found in illumos with the comparative "Licensed" feature found on other operating systems. That might be very nice to include in the OpenIndiana FAQ.[14:50:21] <makruger> Qemu-KVM | HyperV, ESXi, etc. , Zones | Docker, etc.[14:50:50] <makruger> what is the illumos equivalent of openstack?[14:51:08] <makruger> Not even sure what openstack is...[14:52:14] <tsoome> I have no idea if there is anything done about openstack itself. but joyent is masters of the clouds I guess[15:07:58] <makruger> hmmm...openstack is open source, but it needs a license on RHEL?[15:09:38] <tsoome> what does *not* need license on RHEL?[15:17:51] <makruger> ...not sure, when I was using RHEL on my laptop at work, I was a consumer. I have more experience with Vmware Vsphere licensing than RHEL.[15:30:21] <tsoome> fortunately there is centos;)[15:39:36] <Toasterson> there is a guide that explains how to get openstack working on Smartos[15:39:59] <Toasterson> haven't tested it though[15:40:18] <Toasterson> il give it a spin on oi im bored anyway[15:42:22] *** aaro has quit IRC[15:59:53] <tomww> link?[16:11:20] *** kohju_ has joined #openindiana[16:11:59] *** kohju has quit IRC[16:23:25] <Toasterson> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/SmartOS[16:23:32] <Toasterson> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/articles/servers-storage-admin/getting-started-openstack-os11-2-2195380.html[16:23:47] <Toasterson> http://blog.hendrikvolkmer.de/2012/09/07/why-smartos-as-an-openstack-base-os/[16:24:47] <Toasterson> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/smartos-support[16:35:14] *** merzo has quit IRC[16:35:29] *** kohju__ has joined #openindiana[16:36:57] *** kohju_ has quit IRC[16:39:22] *** Kurlon_ has quit IRC[16:40:03] *** Kurlon has joined #openindiana[16:47:51] *** aaro has joined #openindiana[17:17:41] *** andreasW1 has left #openindiana[17:19:44] *** andreasW1 has joined #openindiana[17:35:26] *** aaro has quit IRC[17:36:57] *** aaro has joined #openindiana[17:37:59] *** makruger has quit IRC[17:39:53] *** aaro1 has joined #openindiana[17:41:50] *** aaro has quit IRC[17:42:05] *** aaro1 has quit IRC[17:44:18] *** aaro has joined #openindiana[17:44:29] <tomww> thanks![17:46:56] <Toasterson> im currently experimenting with https://github.com/hvolkmer/openstack-smartos/[17:47:20] <Toasterson> basicly looking into the scripts see whats needs to be changed and then install from source[18:24:38] *** Kurlon_ has joined #openindiana[18:28:23] *** Kurlon has quit IRC[18:32:21] *** kohju___ has joined #openindiana[18:35:35] *** kohju__ has quit IRC[18:51:29] *** MarcelT has quit IRC[19:09:50] *** patdk-lap has quit IRC[19:28:11] *** kohju___ is now known as kohju[19:42:15] *** backjlack has joined #openindiana[19:46:39] *** backjlack_ has quit IRC[19:53:02] *** tarjo has joined #openindiana[19:57:13] *** tarjo has left #openindiana[20:34:08] *** ngchk1_ has joined #openindiana[20:34:29] *** ngchk1 has quit IRC[20:40:53] *** alanc has quit IRC[20:41:17] *** alanc has joined #openindiana[20:41:18] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o alanc[21:16:50] *** makruger has joined #openindiana[21:45:52] *** patdk-lap has joined #openindiana[22:17:51] *** Toasterson has quit IRC[22:38:54] *** aaro has quit IRC[22:49:05] *** InTheWings has quit IRC[23:07:12] *** shruti has quit IRC[23:07:46] *** sac has quit IRC[23:12:32] *** shruti has joined #openindiana[23:13:10] *** sac has joined #openindiana[23:16:47] *** andreasW1 has left #openindiana[23:20:39] *** sac` has joined #openindiana[23:20:42] *** shruti` has joined #openindiana[23:23:16] *** sac has quit IRC[23:24:28] *** shruti has quit IRC[23:34:33] *** aaro has joined #openindiana[23:38:36] *** leoric has quit IRC