March 16, 2015 
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Weird.[12:54:16] <tsoome> zfs comman in local zone can work only with datasets defined in zone config (dataset resource)[12:54:39] <DrLou> well, sure.[12:55:41] <DrLou> what I mean, though - if filesystem/local fails with a call to zfs mount -a, seems weird I cannot just manually issue that command[12:56:53] <DrLou> - well, yeah - I get what you mean![12:56:59] <tsoome> to test that condition, you need to boot to single user[13:00:07] <DrLou> yes, have tried this. Essentially same findings…[13:00:17] *** ghostpl_ has joined #openindiana[13:00:23] <DrLou> zfs mount -a fails, then drops service into maintenance mode[13:13:49] <tsoome> yes, but you should be able to see why it fails[13:14:32] <DrLou> I’d love to, believe me! the svc log also give me nuthin…[13:14:44] <tsoome> if not meaningful messages, then truss zfs mount -a should give you the dataset name on which the mount did fail[13:14:53] <tsoome> no*[13:15:14] <DrLou> ( but I can’t issue the zfs command; this is the thing )[13:19:16] <tsoome> if you have no dataset declared, it should not be able to mount anything but should not end with error either. not sure what should it do with delegated datasets. may it be the case your datasets are improperly mounted in global zone?[13:19:45] <DrLou> this is what I’m stepping through right now… It’s gotta be[13:19:55] *** heyun has quit IRC[13:20:23] <tsoome> you can do test case; if you have existing “good” zone with same setup, shut it down and check mount status/properties of its datasets.[13:21:00] <tsoome> or just create test zone with identical disk setup and perform same checks.[13:21:30] <DrLou> yes, am doing precisely this[13:21:44] *** ghostpl_ has quit IRC[13:21:52] <DrLou> ( have just never had to dive this deep before - a learning experience! )[13:28:21] *** ghostpl_ has joined #openindiana[13:45:04] *** FlibberTGibbet has joined #openindiana[13:46:58] <DrLou> OK, so it’s none of my added datasets to blame - it’s the zone root![13:55:28] *** adtech247 has joined #openindiana[14:00:41] <DrLou> tsoome: answer is both ‘duh’ - and ‘interesting’…[14:01:10] <tsoome> ?[14:01:15] <DrLou> the zone’s zbe was not set to ‘zoned’ - pilot error, after the zfs receive of all the datasets...[14:01:19] *** stoxx has quit IRC[14:01:37] <DrLou> interesting bit is that the zone was still starting - without error[14:01:51] <DrLou> and zfs mount simply said ‘insufficient privileges’...[14:02:10] <tsoome> since it was unable to access the dataset.[14:02:36] <DrLou> sure - it all ‘makes sense’ at the foundation…[14:03:31] <tsoome> since the zbe was not zoned, it was just mounted on GZ boot, and zoneadm boot did just use it as it is[14:04:20] <DrLou> sure. It all makes sense.[14:04:43] <DrLou> just wish there were more alarms for a pilot without his instrument rating… (!)[14:05:36] <tsoome> well, thats the problem with such complex components - basically zoneadm should check for the critical bits like that.[14:06:19] <tsoome> and if you get your system manually to some half-cooked state, things do break:)[14:06:55] <DrLou> fundamental issue: did a zfs send receive _intra_ system...[14:07:10] <DrLou> so zfs tried to re-mount things in weird places.[14:07:14] <tsoome> um well[14:07:24] <DrLou> yeah, gotta get better. I know.[14:08:06] <tsoome> probably using zoneadm clone instead of manual send + receive would be better;)[14:08:11] *** lewq has joined #openindiana[14:09:07] <DrLou> think I spoke to soon. Still cannot clear the filesystem/local svc.[14:20:07] <DrLou> was trying to sort out a workflow, though -[14:20:43] <DrLou> because only wish to (backup) frequently ZFS send certain subtrees of the zones - not all datasets.[14:53:53] *** FlibberTGibbet has quit IRC[14:57:41] *** stoxx has joined #openindiana[15:08:59] *** CustosLimen has quit IRC[15:09:23] *** CustosLimen has joined #openindiana[15:18:32] *** nikolam has quit IRC[15:26:45] *** Bdragon has joined #openindiana[15:30:53] *** alendelon has quit IRC[15:38:05] *** nikolam has joined #openindiana[15:39:53] *** ghostpl_ has quit IRC[15:40:29] *** ghostpl_ has joined #openindiana[15:46:09] *** tsoome has quit IRC[15:47:00] *** nikolam has quit IRC[15:58:32] *** Worsoe has quit IRC[15:58:54] *** XenophonF has joined #openindiana[16:14:36] *** freakazoid0223 has left #openindiana[16:21:23] *** tsoome has joined #openindiana[16:30:46] *** alex6 has quit IRC[16:40:24] *** alendelon has joined #openindiana[16:48:07] *** adtech247 has quit IRC[17:03:34] *** rfm has joined #openindiana[17:19:07] *** ancoron_z has quit IRC[17:21:56] *** ancoron_z has joined #openindiana[17:36:33] *** nikolam has joined #openindiana[17:42:16] *** CustosLimen has quit IRC[17:47:35] *** nikolam has quit IRC[18:01:30] *** alcir has quit IRC[18:04:24] *** merzo has quit IRC[18:12:44] *** fishdust has joined #openindiana[18:39:22] *** held has quit IRC[18:40:21] *** fishdust has quit IRC[18:46:31] *** sac_ has joined #openindiana[18:50:15] *** ghostpl_ has quit IRC[18:51:13] *** dubf has quit IRC[18:53:40] *** dubf has joined #openindiana[18:54:24] *** sac_ has quit IRC[19:02:50] *** nikolam has joined #openindiana[19:07:08] *** nikolam has quit IRC[19:11:02] *** alendelon has quit IRC[19:16:04] *** alendelon has joined #openindiana[19:16:07] *** held has joined #openindiana[19:16:07] *** held has joined #openindiana[19:41:43] *** ghostpl_ has joined #openindiana[19:42:21] *** ghostpl_ has quit IRC[20:03:00] *** Bastian82 has joined #openindiana[20:21:13] *** ghostpl_ has joined #openindiana[20:26:22] *** ghostpl_ has quit IRC[20:30:03] *** alesales has joined #openindiana[20:38:03] *** alesales has quit IRC[20:40:02] *** stoxx has quit IRC[20:44:39] *** alesales has joined #openindiana[20:47:55] *** Bastian82 has quit IRC[20:47:58] *** stoxx has joined #openindiana[21:03:45] *** SonikkuAmerica has joined #openindiana[21:03:59] *** pjama1 has joined #openindiana[21:04:33] *** pjama has quit IRC[21:06:04] *** ghostpl_ has joined #openindiana[21:07:59] *** Kelzier has joined #openindiana[21:59:39] *** SonikkuAmerica has quit IRC[22:01:39] *** SonikkuAmerica has joined #openindiana[22:22:21] *** SonikkuAmerica has quit IRC[22:46:15] *** FlibberTGibbet has joined #openindiana[22:48:04] *** leoric has quit IRC[22:53:07] *** alesales has quit IRC[23:00:33] *** held has quit IRC[23:16:13] *** alendelon has quit IRC[23:16:49] *** nikolam has joined #openindiana[23:33:25] *** damonz has joined #openindiana