July 21, 2014 
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July 21, 2014 [00:28:33] *** jevgeniug has quit IRC[00:34:20] *** Uni has joined #openindiana[00:35:26] <Uni> anyone know of an updated version of this page: http://wiki.openindiana.org/display/oi/Setting+up+the+recommended+build+environment ?[00:36:50] <Uni> or collection of notes[00:36:57] <Uni> etc[00:38:13] <Patrickdk> that is what I use[00:38:17] <Patrickdk> worked a few months ago[00:39:17] <Patrickdk> though if you must have an alternative[00:39:18] <Patrickdk> http://wiki.illumos.org/display/illumos/How+To+Build+illumos[00:51:33] <Uni> worked on stable or hipster?[00:58:21] <Patrickdk> I don't know any hipster[01:08:08] <Uni> good enough, their mustaches are distracting[01:08:22] <Uni> ;)[01:11:58] *** ball has joined #openindiana[01:53:08] *** ball has quit IRC[02:02:23] *** Botanic has joined #openindiana[03:15:15] *** ancoron_ has joined #openindiana[03:19:18] *** ancoron has quit IRC[03:55:31] *** echobinary1 has quit IRC[03:59:38] *** ball has joined #openindiana[04:00:31] 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IRC[18:03:33] *** nikolam has joined #openindiana[18:08:19] *** Seony has joined #openindiana[18:13:09] *** Seony has quit IRC[18:22:04] *** myrkraverk has joined #openindiana[18:22:04] *** myrkraverk has quit IRC[18:22:05] *** myrkraverk has joined #openindiana[18:25:14] <myrkraverk> Is there anyone here willing to try compose+d+h and see if it gets you eth?[18:25:42] <myrkraverk> (I'm pretty sure it's an OI limitation that it doesn't work, but I'd rather confirm it isn't just a local problem first)[18:26:53] *** held has quit IRC[18:30:13] <tsoome> afaik it has always been d - and D-[18:30:46] <tsoome> also Compose file seems to confirm it[18:37:01] *** Kelzier has joined #openindiana[18:37:53] *** Seemone has quit IRC[18:40:40] *** arielb has quit IRC[18:40:48] <myrkraverk> Hmm, neither seem to work here ;c[18:40:59] <myrkraverk> Plus, the d-minus character isn't eth.[18:42:55] <tsoome> well, anyhow the compose files are in /usr/share/X11/locale tree, so you can check whats missing there :)[18:44:18] *** arielb has joined #openindiana[18:46:11] *** psychicist_ has joined #openindiana[18:47:15] *** rfm has joined #openindiana[18:47:35] <myrkraverk> #<Multi_key> <minus> <D> : "\xc3\x90" ETH[18:47:39] <myrkraverk> I guess that explains a lot.[18:47:53] *** held has joined #openindiana[18:48:11] <myrkraverk> Though, not really.[18:48:24] <myrkraverk> compose - d works. Just not compose d -[18:48:49] <myrkraverk> So thanks tsoome c;[18:49:25] <tsoome> alanc may have better hints i guess[18:50:01] <myrkraverk> well, alanc is isn't actually using oi, and the website that told me it was compose d h worked for him, on s11-something.[18:50:20] <tsoome> yes but s11 has Xorg as well[18:50:22] <myrkraverk> (that should have been two sentences, but anyway)[18:50:27] <myrkraverk> *nod*[18:50:39] <tsoome> but ofc its probably more updated[18:51:23] *** jaimef has quit IRC[18:51:48] <myrkraverk> c;[18:51:50] *** jaimef has joined #openindiana[18:53:00] *** eki has joined #openindiana[18:53:03] <tsoome> i dont know, but for some reason oracle is still keeping X11 around even if they did kill sunray...[18:54:15] <myrkraverk> Honestly, I've quite stopped caring what oracle is doing.[18:54:41] <tsoome> can’t ignore it, i get my money for that:D[18:55:04] <myrkraverk> c;[18:55:36] <myrkraverk> but for some strange reason, not everything in my compose file seems to work ;c[18:55:47] <tsoome> I only have earned 50 eur from illumos part so far, i would grow thing with that kind of income;)[18:56:01] <myrkraverk> Oh yes.[18:56:04] <tsoome> s/thing/thin/[18:56:10] <myrkraverk> What do you do for a living? Support?[18:56:35] <tsoome> consulting really, sometimes support as well[18:56:50] <myrkraverk> Ok.[18:57:42] <alanc> Compose file processing varies by toolkit (GTK has it's own list, separate from libX11's) and by input method[18:58:07] <tsoome> ah, thats even better, lol[18:58:12] <myrkraverk> I'm trying it in xemacs and xchat. both seem to behave identically.[18:58:16] <alanc> really, if it involves internationalization & localization, expect it to be hideously more complex than a human brain can imagine[18:58:35] <tsoome> aye. i know[18:58:44] <myrkraverk> (though usually xemacs tends to do the right thing)[18:58:51] <tsoome> especially when gnome is in the game...[18:59:10] <myrkraverk> C:[18:59:18] <myrkraverk> Yeah, I think xchat is a gnome app.[18:59:18] <tsoome> depends which toolkit xemacs is using[18:59:32] <myrkraverk> well, in this case, the toolkit i compiled it with c;[18:59:39] <myrkraverk> I'm using 21.4, not the beta.[18:59:56] <myrkraverk> because the beta sucks in unpredictable ways.[19:00:40] <tsoome> i have used emacs only for po-mode last years…[19:01:42] <myrkraverk> po mode?[19:02:49] <tsoome> yea for translations, http://translationproject.org/team/et.html :D[19:02:54] <myrkraverk> ah[19:03:19][19:06:26] <tsoome> :D[19:06:49] <myrkraverk> It seems quite random what works, and what doesn't. That's annoying.[19:07:16] <myrkraverk> But everything special in Icelandic, I think I have.[19:09:17] *** Seony has joined #openindiana[19:12:38] *** Vutral has joined #openindiana[19:13:43] *** Seony has quit IRC[19:15:31] *** Vutral has quit IRC[19:18:09] <tsoome> um, quick google for “compose gtk” gave hints that apparently gnome is using ibus for compose, and there even is ibus package at least in hipster…. im not sure if i dare to install it tho:D[19:18:46] <tsoome> once installed, you have ibus-setup or something in gnome localization related menu...[19:19:32] <tsoome> the people have complained about same thing — compose maps are only partially working, and apparently thats because of missing language packs…[19:20:13] <tsoome> assuming that thing is actually working and does have language pack for you…. :D[19:22:39] *** _Tenchi_ has joined #openindiana[19:29:36] <myrkraverk> tsoome, well, I think I tried installing ibus when I tried to get anthy working. 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