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[15:03:01] <alp> does somebody know what's happening with sun-rays.org ? (Host www.sun-rays.org not found: 3(NXDOMAIN))
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[19:18:19] <rihbyne> anyone there
[19:19:25] <tsoome> nope
[19:19:35] <tsoome> the elvis has left the building;)
[19:21:19] <rihbyne> tsoome:hi I am new to solaria and therefore openIndiana
[19:21:56] <rihbyne> and I was considering setting up solaris for java development.
[19:29:29] <rihbyne> tsoome: you there
[19:29:35] <tsoome> yes
[19:30:11] <rihbyne> what are you doing in openindiana ?
[19:30:33] <tsoome> writing stuff atm
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[19:41:49] <rihbyne> tsoome: do you use for app deployment ? from where do I learn more about solaris dtrace, zfs and IPS ?
[19:42:29] <tsoome> not app, the os bits just now.
[19:42:43] <tsoome> for learning, there are many sources
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[19:46:35] <rihbyne> tsoome: ok thanks. here is another question. are there upstream developers working closely with openindiana and producing leaks for this os ?
[19:46:53] <rihbyne> from oracle solaris 11
[19:47:32] <tsoome> things wont just “leak”;)
[19:47:42] <tsoome> if its open, then its open.
[19:48:16] <tsoome> otherwise you are in big trouble;)
[19:50:18] <rihbyne> okay. I look openIndiana as CentOS and solaris as Red hat :) but thats not the case here
[19:50:34] <tsoome> its definitely not the case.
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[19:56:02] <patdk-wk> more like openindiana is sles?
[19:56:14] <patdk-wk> feels mostly the same, but different
[20:04:09] <rihbyne> patdk-wk: what your first sentence about openindiana ?
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[20:27:32] <patdk-wk> more like openindiana is sles?
[20:27:54] <patdk-wk> openindiana would be more like sles vs centos
[20:28:01] <patdk-wk> in how the relations work
[20:31:06] <_Tenchi_> still pretty horrible analogies hehe
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[20:33:45] <tsoome> such analogies will not get anyone anywhere. and dont even matter.
[20:34:31] <_Tenchi_> yeah... the forks and relationships between the source code and projects arent well encapsulated within simple analogies
[20:34:43] <tsoome> you need to learn the thing if you wanna use it:P
[20:35:23] <_Tenchi_> solaris11 has become divergent enough from illumos that it really makes learning illumos distros difficult if you make assumptions based on solaris11 stuff
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[20:35:46] <_Tenchi_> or maybe i should say illumos has become divergent from solaris?
[20:36:12] <tsoome> they are still pretty similar in most parts. but indeed, the paths are separated.
[20:37:10] <_Tenchi_> it's interesting how solaris11 has begun to move a lot of configuration stuff into smf propeties though
[20:37:58] <tsoome> not an big surprise if you think about it:P
[20:38:30] <tsoome> afterall, thats why you have properties in smf
[20:38:35] <_Tenchi_> no, it's actually sorta convenient to be able to configure stuff programatically
[20:38:47] <tsoome> exactly
[20:39:10] <tsoome> altho in some areas its a bit artificial
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[22:07:02] <brogyi> Hi
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[22:25:46] <brogyi> I have a problem with ASM1061 card. Could you help anybody?
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[22:37:34] <Botanic> brogyi, probably
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