July 11, 2014 
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to be known[12:13:45] <EisNerd> Alasdairrr: hy, I'm back on deck. As I bought some nice stuff for my home storage server, which ofcourse goes to be driven by oi[12:13:49] <EisNerd> (hopefully)[12:17:03] <tsoome> 8086,153a is managed by e1000g according to /etc/driver_aliases, maybe you got something in /var/adm/messages to help to identify the issue[12:17:40] <EisNerd> tsoome: hm on live usb there is no entry in the aliases and when I add one it fails to attach[12:18:05] <EisNerd> even my oi vm here has no entry in driver aliases[12:18:59] <tsoome> i have hipster, maybe your image is too old?[12:19:16] <EisNerd> it is the 151a8 live usb currently which runs the sys (at least in text console mode, as live gui starts just to a green screen with mouse cursor flickering from arrow to waitclock and back)[12:19:46] <EisNerd> could you provide me a link to an more recent live usb image?[12:21:43] <EisNerd> found it[12:21:55] <EisNerd> ok maybe give hipster a try[12:22:11] <tsoome> http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/[12:22:23] <tsoome> a9 does not seem to have isos generated[13:07:36] *** Seony^MBP has joined #openindiana[13:07:36] *** Seony has quit IRC[13:10:06] *** Seony^MBP has quit IRC[13:18:18] <EisNerd> tsoome: hehe this one boots to x and gets the intel network running[13:18:27] <tsoome> :)[13:18:28] <EisNerd> thx[13:18:49] <EisNerd> now tell me how to get my amt running the way I desired[13:19:03] <EisNerd> and you are my hero of the week[13:19:39] <tsoome> what is amt?:P[13:29:11] <EisNerd> this intel remote management stuff[13:29:31] <EisNerd> normally it should give me based on the hardware I bought an integrated ipKVM[13:29:56] <EisNerd> but the vnc part refuses to work, the configuration states it is not supported[13:30:47] <EisNerd> I'll have to go through this with some patience, maybe I missed some step during configuration, or I just need to upgrade same fw bits[13:31:04] <tsoome> yea cant help about that[13:31:06] <EisNerd> it already gives me sol and remote powercontrol[13:31:32] <EisNerd> but hardware integrated VNC is the Crown I'd like to have also[13:33:26] <EisNerd> btw does someone know nice hotswap drive bays mountable in 5.25" drive bays supporting this spgio stuff for drive state signaling (specificly using adaptec hba)[13:34:03] <EisNerd> ideally having directly thoose minisas connectors as it would reduce the cabling hell[13:34:31] <EisNerd> (this baby goes to have upto 12 hdd drives in the end)[13:35:01] *** Zenos has joined #openindiana[13:51:45] *** alendelon has quit IRC[13:55:49] *** tomww has quit IRC[14:13:10] *** VerboEse has joined #openindiana[14:14:58] *** arielb has quit IRC[14:18:36] *** master_of_master has joined #openindiana[14:21:38] *** master_o1_master has quit IRC[14:33:24] *** nikolam has joined #openindiana[14:34:13] <alp> after struggling with apache 2.4 as pkg.depotd reverse proxy server finally found out that I miss "AllowEncodedSlashes NoDecode"[14:34:33] *** sebasp__ is now known as sebasp_[14:34:33] <tsoome> :D[14:35:09] <lblume> I have an RFE with Oracle to be able to use Apache as a pkg server.[14:35:38] *** CVLTCMK0 has quit IRC[14:35:51] <alp> without pkg.depotd?[14:36:03] <tsoome> pkg.depotd is apache anyhow;)[14:38:28] <lblume> On a standard Apache, because I didn't want to buy a new server just to accomodate S11 when I already had one working perfectly well for RHEL and S10.[14:38:48] <lblume> But it's only anecdotal. It's so not going anywhere.[14:39:25] <tsoome> define standard[14:39:39] <tsoome> :P[14:40:14] <lblume> Don't be dense :-P[14:40:31] <tsoome> its using perfectly standard bundled apache 2.2; its all about the actual server side scripting and stuff.[14:40:39] <patdk-wk> that means your using mod_php right?[14:40:56] <tsoome> why should i use mod_php?[14:40:59] <patdk-wk> doesn't all apache installs come with mod_php? :)[14:41:12] <patdk-wk> and wordpress[14:42:36] <tsoome> well, it has mod_php5.so and 5.2.so[14:43:17] <tsoome> and i really fail to see why it should be big issue to build any other extra modules.[14:44:47] <tsoome> i mean, you can always run apachectl -V to get defines[14:51:50] *** nikolam has quit IRC[15:02:12] *** nikolam has joined #openindiana[15:27:34] *** MarcelT has quit IRC[15:28:12] *** tomww has joined #openindiana[15:28:12] *** tomww has joined #openindiana[15:28:13] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tomww[15:49:00] *** MarcelT has joined #openindiana[15:50:16] *** 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#openindiana[20:34:03] *** fred`` has quit IRC[20:34:58] *** robins is now known as robinsmidsrod[20:44:26] *** fred`` has joined #openindiana[20:55:03] *** jevgeniug has joined #openindiana[21:00:35] *** fred`` has quit IRC[21:01:28] *** nikolam has quit IRC[21:09:56] *** Seemone has joined #openindiana[21:13:12] *** Seemone has quit IRC[21:13:28] *** kohju_ is now known as kohju[21:21:38] *** nikolam has joined #openindiana[21:52:11] <EisNerd> nabend[21:53:56] <EisNerd> howto fix a user with a change uid[21:54:04] <EisNerd> changed[21:54:13] <tsoome> changed in which way?[21:54:22] <EisNerd> hm edited in passwd[21:54:28] <EisNerd> not probably the best idea[21:54:33] <tsoome> and you need to restore?[21:54:47] <EisNerd> the login via cifs-server[21:55:02] <EisNerd> it seems to somehow still map to the old uid[21:55:04] <EisNerd> or such[21:55:08] <tsoome> you get previous id from home[21:55:15] <EisNerd> ???[21:55:26] <EisNerd> but I need the changed uid[21:55:28] <tsoome> or you need to use new ID?[21:55:37] <EisNerd> as I trying simple nfs[21:55:57] <tsoome> chown home properly, and for cifs, you need to fix the idmap[21:56:15] <EisNerd> how is the later done?[21:56:40] <tsoome> with idmap command i guess[21:56:47] *** jaimef has quit IRC[21:57:01] <EisNerd> idmap flush doesn't fix anything[21:57:04] <tsoome> if you nuke current mapping for that user, it will generate new[21:57:20] *** datadigger has quit IRC[21:57:33] <tsoome> workgroup mode?[21:57:48] <EisNerd> yes[21:58:05] <tsoome> check /var/smb/smbpasswd as well[21:58:20] <tsoome> if it has recorded the old id[21:58:26] <EisNerd> ok it has[22:01:20] <EisNerd> hm still the logon to share gives no access[22:01:59] <tsoome> check acl’s[22:02:24] <tsoome> i dont know if acl’s store uid or name[22:02:33] *** eki has joined #openindiana[22:03:11] <tsoome> also you can test idmapping with idmap command[22:03:28] *** bastiboy has quit IRC[22:03:35] <EisNerd> ok this was it[22:04:04] *** jaimef has joined #openindiana[22:04:08] <tsoome> acl’s ?[22:05:58] <EisNerd> ok smb access is now working again[22:06:46] <tsoome> but yes, with that many bits there is no tool to change uid “properly”[22:07:08] <EisNerd> now back to the great questions howto get the acls the way, that files/folders created via smb/nfs are displayed fine on the other end and get properly inherited acls[22:07:38] <tsoome> you start with zfs acl related properties on dataset[22:07:53] <EisNerd> as a test folder created via smb ends up as ?????????? ? ? ? ? ? asdf[22:07:57] <EisNerd> in nfs[22:08:24] <tsoome> nfsv4?[22:08:31] <EisNerd> tsoome: ok, is there somewhere a good and prooven working step by step howto[22:08:41] <tsoome> because v3 does not support it...[22:09:01] <EisNerd> yes nfs4 (at least this is was mount says)[22:09:10] <EisNerd> and what I enforced using sharectl[22:10:03] <EisNerd> also the preferred when it works as expected in the end[22:11:25] <EisNerd> hm wait with my user I get drwx------ 2 root root 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Nov 2014 asdf[22:11:52] <EisNerd> not exactly what I expected but probably not that worse as it looked at first[22:18:04] <EisNerd> anyway, lets go on[22:18:26] <EisNerd> has you some guide about how this is setup?[22:21:09] <tsoome> never needed one tbh[22:21:16] <EisNerd> ok[22:21:27] <EisNerd> so lets elaborate this[22:21:30] <EisNerd> I have nfs4[22:21:52] <EisNerd> there something nasty with the group mapping[22:21:57] <tsoome> but its the same suggestion as always — check out one config and another, to make sure you understand if and how its working, and then merge[22:22:00] <EisNerd> group:2147483648:rwxpdDaARWcCos:-------:allow[22:22:19] <EisNerd> should be 100[22:22:33] <tsoome> group names are missing?[22:22:50] <EisNerd> this is created via smb[22:22:56] <tsoome> hm, but that does not sound like nogroup[22:23:07] <EisNerd> so it also misses the unix standard acls[22:23:44] <tsoome> well, you need to create windows group mappings in idmap[22:24:13] <EisNerd> usid:S-1-5-21-3303746701-4091431672-4132887716-2000 == uid:1000[22:24:23] <EisNerd> gsid:S-1-5-21-3303746701-4091431672-4132887716-2147483748 == gid:100[22:24:38] <EisNerd> but none for group:2147483648:[22:25:29] <tsoome> you have kerberos with nfsv4 btw?[22:25:36] <EisNerd> no[22:26:03] <tsoome> ah, that means you still need to keep user:uid in sync[22:26:15] <tsoome> and same for groups[22:26:27] <EisNerd> yes but as the oi is freshly installed this should work[22:26:39] <EisNerd> as I have, this is why I altered things[22:26:58] <tsoome> you just need to keep that in mind[22:27:30] <tsoome> nfsv4 itself is working with user and group names, but auth_sys is using uid[22:27:40] <EisNerd> yeah I read it[22:27:51] <EisNerd> but kerberos would comlicate things a lot[22:28:13] <EisNerd> especially there are some strange things on linux[22:28:36] <tsoome> maybe, maybe not, but anyhow, if you are aware, its not an issue to keep data in sync[22:28:38] <EisNerd> maybe I roll out an smb4ad in a zone later[22:29:02] <EisNerd> but this is defnitely futuer[22:29:07] <EisNerd> future[22:29:25] *** psychicist_ has joined #openindiana[22:30:19] <tsoome> but yea regarding to smb idmap, i have only played with really trivial setups just to see if the concept is working, details are always a bit more complicated[22:33:16] *** nikolam has quit IRC[22:35:02] <EisNerd> it is simple it is just the nas box for me and my wife[22:35:11] <EisNerd> maybe my and her parents via smb[22:35:59] <EisNerd> it is just to get the valuable data when no longer actually needed away from the laptops and also stored somehow safer[22:36:13] <EisNerd> as it uses initially a morrored rpool[22:36:16] <tsoome> with users in idemap its relatively simple — you know what windows users you have, and can get automatic mapping easily[22:36:34] <EisNerd> later I plan to add dedicated discs for storage[22:36:54] <EisNerd> my user gets mapped ok[22:36:57] <tsoome> the group mappings are a bit different thing, as there are built in groups, and custom groups[22:36:58] <EisNerd> it is just the group[22:37:18] <EisNerd> so I need to smbadm add the group?[22:38:33] <tsoome> could be, yes[22:38:44] <tsoome> never dealt with that:D[22:39:07] <EisNerd> hm no this is refused[22:39:37] <EisNerd> hm it autocreates a mapping for gid:100[22:40:13] <EisNerd> but sets a ace for group:2147483648 which doesn't exist on either system nor has a mapping[22:40:20] <EisNerd> the user is mapped ok[22:41:15] <tsoome> set syslog to log daemon.debug and check the log, maybe you get good hints from there[22:41:21] <EisNerd> and the correctly set users are also mapped ok via nfs[22:42:00] *** eki has quit IRC[22:44:04] <EisNerd> narf a good bashcomp is somehow still missing in the default[22:45:33] <EisNerd> ok now I need to set debug for idmap[22:49:33] <EisNerd> hm something is missing damn it is quite some time since I digged in this last time[22:50:43] <EisNerd> hm where it gets this gid[22:52:25] <tsoome> man idmap, Mapping Mechanisms section[22:54:44] *** eki has joined #openindiana[23:01:41] <EisNerd> hm still no real hint[23:02:18] <tsoome> debug log does not tell about idmapping?[23:02:52] <EisNerd> hm not really afaik there is an option I need to add[23:05:21] <tsoome> you have rules for wingroup and unixgroup mappings?[23:07:13] <EisNerd> the mapping is generated automatically[23:07:19] <EisNerd> usid:S-1-5-21-3303746701-4091431672-4132887716-2000 == uid:1000[23:07:20] <EisNerd> gsid:S-1-5-21-3303746701-4091431672-4132887716-2147483748 == gid:100[23:07:48] <EisNerd> wait does zfs not store the winids[23:07:57] <EisNerd> where is this mapping stored?[23:08:18] <tsoome> idmap ones are in idmap internal db or files[23:08:49] <tsoome> but yes, you can have acls with sids, but, that will not help with nfs[23:09:04] <EisNerd> hm disabling idmap gives[23:09:09] <EisNerd> group:nobody:rwxpdDaARWcCos:-------:allow[23:09:24] <EisNerd> when it is enabled I get group:2147483648:rwxpdDaARWcCos:-------:allow[23:10:28] *** datadigger has joined #openindiana[23:10:34] <tsoome> i guess you get those mappings for 1000 and 100 for some well known sids, but as its unable to create name based mapping for that last one, its using value from that documented range[23:11:09] <EisNerd> hm no as it then would show up when using idmap dump[23:11:40] <tsoome> you should be able to translate unixgroup:2147483648 to wingroup tho[23:12:23] <EisNerd> hm nice idea[23:13:35] <EisNerd> gid:2147483648 -> sid:S-1-5-18[23:13:37] <EisNerd> ???[23:15:07] <tsoome> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa379649(v=vs.85).aspx[23:15:22] <tsoome> SECURITY_LOCAL_SYSTEM_RID whatever it is:D[23:16:15] <EisNerd> so it is my smbclient then?[23:16:17] <tsoome> but you should be able to make manual mapping for it[23:16:38] <EisNerd> yeah but what should it be[23:17:04] <tsoome> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ms684190(v=vs.85).aspx[23:18:12] <tsoome> well, i guess you can map it nogroup:D[23:18:39] <tsoome> why its appearing there is anyones guess...[23:23:23] <EisNerd> hm I can't add such a mpping[23:23:41] <EisNerd> idmap add sid:S-1-5-18 unixgroup:nogroup[23:23:41] <EisNerd> sid:S-1-5-18 is not a valid name[23:28:52] <tsoome> well, i dont know about idmap service to have any more ideas, probably time to read its source:D[23:29:38] <EisNerd> hm this is ok anyway[23:29:46] <EisNerd> but I miss the group acl[23:30:47] <tsoome> in what windows groups the use belongs btw?[23:31:06] <EisNerd> could you elaborate a bit over aclmode and aclinherit?[23:31:18] <EisNerd> uff[23:31:27] <EisNerd> it is using smbclient from my linux laptop[23:32:18] <tsoome> ah, i see[23:32:43] <tsoome> well, acl properties control how the chmod will interact with acl's[23:33:09] <tsoome> most likely wanna have passtrough there[23:33:34] <tsoome> or maybe passthrough-x[23:35:53] <EisNerd> hm ok[23:38:00] <tsoome> the issue is, if user is doing like chmod 600, it wont translate to acl by default (discard), but smb service uses only acl[23:38:37] <EisNerd> hm ok[23:40:14] <tsoome> since nfs deal with both acl and unix permissions, the issue is with smb in such cases.[23:46:26] <EisNerd> hm looks like[23:46:35] <EisNerd> but nfs + linux gui => hell[23:46:53] <EisNerd> as linux guis normally only see unix perms[23:47:36] <tsoome> yep, thats why mixed protocol access shares are such an pain[23:48:50] <tsoome> samba can help there a bit, but then you are back on umask and stripped down permissions hell[23:49:09] <EisNerd> hm now I set some inheritence acls and I get finer results from create dacls[23:49:24] <EisNerd> but end up with samba can't delete the folder ust created[23:51:30] <tsoome> samba can be built to support zfs acl’s as well[23:52:34] <tsoome> i dont remember if it will actually try to delete or will evaluate permissions before[23:53:28] <EisNerd> damn why is there no howto for this[23:55:15] *** Seemone has joined 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