September 19, 2013 
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September 19, 2013 [00:02:41] *** thillux has quit IRC[00:05:06] <Triskelios> /etc/inet, /etc/dladm, /etc/ipadm, /etc/hostname.* I suppose. and /etc/zones[00:10:00] *** phobos_anomaly has quit IRC[00:16:28] *** Onno has quit IRC[00:22:27] *** Onno has joined #openindiana[00:27:30] *** phobos_anomaly has joined #openindiana[00:30:13] *** blues_air has joined #openindiana[00:34:54] *** blues_air has quit IRC[00:35:12] *** herzen has joined #openindiana[00:45:33] *** jim80net has quit IRC[00:57:41] <jpeeters> thanks[00:58:33] <jpeeters> can them be restored simply using fily copying ?[00:58:37] <jpeeters> **file copying?[00:59:39] *** anonymus_ has joined #openindiana[00:59:51] <Triskelios> in theory[00:59:53] *** hlangeveld has quit IRC[01:00:25] *** Dr_Cain has quit IRC[01:00:30] *** Dr_Cain_ has joined #openindiana[01:00:48] *** anonymuse has quit IRC[01:03:06] *** jpeeters has quit IRC[01:05:29] *** jpeeters has joined #openindiana[01:06:40] *** anonymuse has joined 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rfm has quit IRC[09:46:11] *** ngchk1 has quit IRC[09:57:19] *** man_u_ has joined #openindiana[09:58:57] *** man_u has quit IRC[09:58:57] *** man_u_ is now known as man_u[10:19:55] *** troydm has joined #openindiana[10:20:03] *** blues_air has joined #openindiana[10:24:15] <nikolam> It is hard to make a link to a file, only using GNOME2 nautilus.[10:24:50] *** blues_air has quit IRC[10:25:19] <nikolam> there is right-click and Make link and then move it and rename it , but what when dir where target fiel is not writable?[10:25:22] <nikolam> file[10:25:36] <nikolam> dir where target file is , that is.[10:25:54] <nikolam> dragging file to another tab - copies it.[10:26:17] <nikolam> would like to avoid command line for such operation.[10:27:30] *** The_TORmentor has quit IRC[10:27:50] *** The_TORmentor has joined #openindiana[10:28:13] *** tsoome has quit IRC[10:32:06] *** The_TORmentor has quit IRC[10:34:55] *** InTheWings has joined #openindiana[10:51:42] *** W0rmDr1nk has quit IRC[10:51:42] *** tsoome has joined #openindiana[10:56:01] *** THE_TORMENTOR has joined #openindiana[10:56:40] *** [|] has quit IRC[10:56:49] *** nikolam has quit IRC[10:57:05] *** [|] has joined #openindiana[10:57:15] *** floogy has joined #openindiana[11:00:31] <floogy> Hi, I got a pool with three drives with a spilled reallocation sector count failing SMART. The pool was undergoing scrub reparation and is healthy, I didn't used it that much, because I didn't get AD integration working. So the data isn't yet very important, and this situation exists since July.[11:00:33] <floogy> SMART Health Status: HARDWARE IMPENDING FAILURE GENERAL HARD DRIVE FAILURE [asc=5d, ascq=10][11:01:29] <floogy> I want to buy three new 4TB drives. Is the advanced format align=12 patch in the kernel of a8?[11:01:37] *** nikolam has joined #openindiana[11:02:40] <floogy> https://www.illumos.org/issues/2663[11:05:53] <floogy> power om hours are 15000 Hitachi HDS723020BLA642[11:07:18] <floogy> 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 001 001 005 Pre-fail Always FAILING_NOW 1306 , the two others with 2002 and 2005[11:08:55] <floogy> Can someone please suggest a harddisk 4TB to buy for 24/7?[11:09:21] *** THE_TORMENTOR has quit IRC[11:10:04] *** troydm has quit IRC[11:15:00] *** russiane39 has joined #openindiana[11:16:00] *** nikolam has quit IRC[11:20:23] *** blues_air has joined #openindiana[11:21:15] <mahomet> thank goodness for openindiana[11:21:33] <mahomet> i've been using OpenSolaris as my main desktop since 2008.05. you saved my life[11:22:26] <lblume> Hyperbolic.[11:22:31] *** nikolam has joined #openindiana[11:22:45] *** russiane39 has quit IRC[11:23:16] <nikolam> Sooo, when I kill process of the GNOME panel applet, and choose "don't reload", he Deletes them from panel forever???[11:23:59] <nikolam> I would like to get it back (panel layout in gnome panel) from zfs snapshot[11:25:16] *** blues_air has quit IRC[11:32:08] *** W0rmDr1nk has joined #openindiana[11:37:20] *** russiane39 has joined #openindiana[11:38:33] *** nikolam has quit IRC[11:39:32] *** russiane39 has quit IRC[11:42:22] *** nikolam has joined #openindiana[11:44:27] *** gvm has quit IRC[11:44:53] *** the_TORmentor has joined #openindiana[11:44:59] *** gvm has joined #openindiana[11:51:19] *** floogy_ has joined #openindiana[11:51:57] *** troydm has joined #openindiana[11:54:45] *** floogy has quit IRC[12:05:11] *** _dumfries has joined #openindiana[12:06:32] *** dumfries has joined #openindiana[12:19:36] *** W0rmDr1nk has quit IRC[12:20:43] *** blues_air has joined #openindiana[12:21:33] *** |AbsyntH| has quit IRC[12:21:36] *** W0rmDr1nk has joined #openindiana[12:25:18] *** blues_air has quit IRC[12:38:45] *** Seony has quit IRC[12:41:59] *** unsound_ has quit IRC[12:44:59] *** LeftWing has quit IRC[12:45:06] *** LeftWing has joined #openindiana[12:55:55] *** patdk-lap has quit IRC[13:02:13] *** W0rmDr1nk has quit IRC[13:02:53] *** W0rmDr1nk has joined #openindiana[13:03:43] <jduggan> guys, what's the best way to offline a potentially problematic drive and allow the hotspare ? simply zfs offline ? or zfs replace ?[13:06:38] *** russiane39 has joined #openindiana[13:10:39] *** patdk-lap has joined #openindiana[13:21:02] *** blues_air has joined #openindiana[13:23:27] *** gm152 has joined #openindiana[13:25:36] *** blues_air has quit IRC[13:30:36] *** gosx has quit IRC[13:33:04] *** szaydel has joined #openindiana[13:49:59] *** gvm has quit IRC[13:56:59] *** gm152 has quit IRC[14:15:44] <Alasdairrr> zfs replace baddrive sparedrive[14:17:27] *** ignasr has joined #openindiana[14:21:22] *** blues_air has joined #openindiana[14:25:41] *** blues_air has quit IRC[14:30:14] *** jamon has quit IRC[14:35:26] *** CVLTCMK0 has quit IRC[14:37:01] <patdk-wk_> well, that depends[14:37:16] <patdk-wk_> if you don't want to read from the problematic drive or not[14:37:38] <patdk-wk_> offline then replace, if you don't want anything to do with the problem drive[14:44:37] *** |AbsyntH| has joined #openindiana[14:45:01] *** W0rmDr1nk has quit IRC[14:47:07] *** W0rmDr1nk has joined #openindiana[14:57:07] *** Vutral has quit IRC[14:58:11] *** andy_js has joined #openindiana[15:06:06] *** midacts has quit IRC[15:08:26] *** jamon has joined #openindiana[15:16:12] *** sjorge has quit IRC[15:17:14] *** Vutral has joined #openindiana[15:18:10] *** sjorge has joined #openindiana[15:18:12] *** sjorge has joined #openindiana[15:18:40] *** floogy_ is now known as floogy[15:21:42] *** blues_air has joined #openindiana[15:21:53] *** W0rmDr1nk has quit IRC[15:25:51] *** blues_air has quit IRC[15:27:04] *** joltman has quit IRC[15:27:29] *** Seemone has joined #openindiana[15:35:47] *** tommy_e has quit IRC[15:39:39] *** kforbz has joined #openindiana[15:46:15] <floogy> Hi, do the WD red or seagate nas 4TB drives report the 4k properly?[15:46:53] <floogy> Or, isn't that no longer necessary in a8?[16:02:51] *** Worsoe has quit IRC[16:03:11] *** DrLou has quit IRC[16:07:36] *** joltman has joined #openindiana[16:14:27] *** |AbsyntH| has quit IRC[16:16:11] *** hlangeveld has joined #openindiana[16:17:52] *** Meths has quit IRC[16:17:53] *** jduggan has quit IRC[16:17:54] *** n2deep has quit IRC[16:17:55] *** Damjanek has quit IRC[16:18:02] *** jduggan has joined #openindiana[16:18:03] *** n2deep has joined #openindiana[16:18:29] *** Damjanek has joined #openindiana[16:26:12] *** tsoome has quit IRC[16:27:45] <tomww> I have 3TB Seagate ST3000DM001 and 3TB Seagate Constellation CS in another system. But I didn't check the 4k stuff, as I assumed it would just do the right thing if I throw EFI (created by zpool) on it...[16:28:10] *** Meths has joined #openindiana[16:28:10] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Meths[16:35:20] *** joltman has quit IRC[16:36:32] *** [|] has quit IRC[16:37:36] <jduggan> thanks Alasdairrr - i offlined the drive first then replaced - 100% wait, no busy causing huge performance issues but sorted as soon as i offlined it[16:39:17] *** W0rmDr1nk has joined #openindiana[16:40:56] <floogy> tomww, unfortunately I have no clue if the sd.conf patch of Wilson is included into a8 https://www.illumos.org/issues/2665 http://blog.delphix.com/gwilson/2012/11/15/4k-sectors-and-zfs/ https://www.icts.uiowa.edu/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=67307552[16:42:10] <lblume> zdb | grep ashift[16:45:57] <floogy> I'm not sure if the oi hp microserver will boot up due to the three wrecked 2TB drives.[16:47:28] <tomww> I see 12 for the magentic disks (ST3000NC002-1DY166)[16:49:22] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[16:55:17] *** joltman has joined #openindiana[17:08:52] <floogy> Ok, so ST3000DM001 is in 4k format but also offers 512e reporting due to SmartAlign?[17:09:56] *** tsoome has joined #openindiana[17:10:11] <floogy> You had nothing to configure to get the alignment, so that might be a indication, that a8 will automatically proper align 512e/4k drives, though I'm not sure.[17:11:51] <URi1> I am having problems with nfsv4[17:12:26] <URi1> after sometime transfers become extremely slow around tens of KB/s[17:12:57] <URi1> i've tried to use dtrace to find out what's happening[17:13:06] <URi1> and I am watching this errors[17:13:22] *** scarcry has quit IRC[17:13:28] <URi1> dtrace: error on enabled probe ID 4 (ID 2523: nfsv4:nfssrv:rfs4_op_read:op-read-done): invalid address (0x0) in action #9[17:13:28] <URi1> dtrace: error on enabled probe ID 4 (ID 2523: nfsv4:nfssrv:rfs4_op_read:op-read-done): invalid address (0x0) in action #9[17:13:28] <URi1> dtrace: error on enabled probe ID 4 (ID 2523: nfsv4:nfssrv:rfs4_op_read:op-read-done): invalid address (0x0) in action #9[17:13:28] <URi1> dtrace: error on enabled probe ID 5 (ID 2489: nfsv4:nfssrv:rfs4_op_write:op-write-done): invalid address (0x0) in action #9[17:13:28] <URi1> dtrace: error on enabled probe ID 5 (ID 2489: nfsv4:nfssrv:rfs4_op_write:op-write-done): invalid address (0x0) in action #9[17:15:04] <URi1> are this errors relevant or should I keep searching?[17:18:41] <MarcelT> these errors are produced by your dtrace script[17:18:58] <MarcelT> you are dereferencing NULL pointer in it.[17:19:09] <MarcelT> URi1: ^[17:20:37] <URi1> I am using this script[17:21:04] *** alcir has quit IRC[17:21:25] <URi1> After some time when I cancel de dtrace[17:22:02] <URi1> i see some hosts in the list but the files they are reading or writing are not shown[17:22:08] <URi1> is this a mistake in the script?[17:22:22] *** blues_air has joined #openindiana[17:23:54] *** jaimef has quit IRC[17:24:12] <MarcelT> Either args[0] or args[1] seems to be NULL[17:24:20] <MarcelT> likely args[0][17:27:15] *** blues_air has quit IRC[17:31:05] *** jaimef has joined #openindiana[17:42:01] <URi1> i have added a print for the args[0]->ci_remote path and one of the host that appears in the summary is never printed[17:42:20] <URi1> which i think that means that args[1] is null[17:47:46] *** scarcry has joined #openindiana[17:48:45] *** joltman has quit IRC[18:12:37] *** floogy has quit IRC[18:15:09] *** blues_air has joined #openindiana[18:16:17] *** blues_air has quit IRC[18:17:53] *** blues_air has joined #openindiana[18:22:12] *** deet has quit IRC[18:32:48] *** hlangeveld has quit IRC[18:34:12] *** jim80net has joined #openindiana[18:36:03] *** deet has joined #openindiana[18:47:23] *** joltman has joined #openindiana[18:48:42] *** altf2o has joined #openindiana[19:03:00] *** W0rmDr1nk has quit IRC[19:06:38] *** altf2o has quit IRC[19:07:40] *** sjorge has quit IRC[19:10:38] *** sjorge has joined 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I didn't want to fiddle with the bios in the display machines yesterday.[20:48:42] <myrkraverk> As I wasn't even 100% sure I had created the usb boot thing correctly.[20:49:59] <myrkraverk> Or, do I have to find "some other way" to boot OI?[20:50:20] <myrkraverk> . o O ( I guess I should maybe take this over to the -discuss list, which I'll do later )[20:50:38] *** rfm has joined #openindiana[20:51:25] *** welby is now known as welby_away[20:58:38] *** the_TORmentor has quit IRC[20:59:47] *** the_TORmentor has joined #openindiana[21:01:01] *** alex1 has quit IRC[21:09:49] *** scarcry has quit IRC[21:10:07] *** scarcry has joined #openindiana[21:32:30] *** phobos_anomaly has quit IRC[21:33:06] <freakazoid0223> afaik UEFI can be turned off in the bios[21:33:20] *** nikolam has quit IRC[21:33:52] <freakazoid0223> err the protection can be turned off in the UEFI[21:33:59] <myrkraverk> ?[21:35:33] <myrkraverk> http://openindiana.org/pipermail/openindiana-discuss/2013-September/013914.html[21:35:39] <myrkraverk> Same question, on the mailing list.[21:35:56] <myrkraverk> I don't get the reference to "protection."[21:36:07] <freakazoid0223> for example: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2417361,00.asp[21:38:18] <myrkraverk> freakazoid0223, do you know if that's "safe enough" to try on display models in a store?[21:38:28] <myrkraverk> I don't want to leave the machines unable to boot their native win8.[21:39:32] <freakazoid0223> no I do not, i haven't had any hands on experience as of yet[21:41:20] <myrkraverk> *nod*[21:46:35] <freakazoid0223> "secureboot" is the protection i was refering to[21:51:05] <myrkraverk> Right.[21:52:15] *** joltman has quit IRC[21:59:15] *** joltman has joined #openindiana[22:05:07] *** nikolam has joined #openindiana[22:14:56] *** phobos_anomaly has joined #openindiana[22:39:42] *** Odyessus has joined #openindiana[22:42:47] *** Odyessus has quit IRC[22:45:01] *** 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