September 15, 2013 
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September 15, 2013 [00:15:40] *** jpeeters has quit IRC[00:24:24] *** blues_air has joined #openindiana[00:28:54] *** blues_air has quit IRC[00:34:07] *** andy_js has quit IRC[00:35:03] <irker846> spec-files-extra [5424] tom68 TODO: add 72) correct SFEruby.spec install paths, mediated links[01:01:44] *** hecsa_ has quit IRC[01:02:01] *** hecsa_ has joined #openindiana[01:13:15] *** szaydel has quit IRC[01:20:15] *** |AbsyntH| has quit IRC[01:24:43] *** blues_air has joined #openindiana[01:25:45] *** kdavyd has quit IRC[01:29:02] *** blues_air has quit IRC[01:30:59] *** szaydel has joined #openindiana[01:46:05] *** kdavyd has joined #openindiana[01:50:16] *** myrkraverk has quit IRC[02:00:28] *** myrkraverk has joined #openindiana[02:00:28] *** myrkraverk has quit IRC[02:00:29] *** myrkraverk has joined #openindiana[02:00:30] *** hecsa_ has quit IRC[02:00:47] *** hecsa_ has joined #openindiana[02:01:48] *** szaydel has quit IRC[02:19:43] *** hecsa_ has quit IRC[02:25:04] *** blues_air has joined #openindiana[02:29:23] *** blues_air has quit IRC[03:06:01] *** szaydel has joined #openindiana[03:07:52] *** ozialien has joined #openindiana[03:16:25] *** hecsa_ has joined #openindiana[03:25:23] *** blues_air has joined #openindiana[03:30:14] *** blues_air has quit IRC[03:30:57] *** basic6_ has joined #openindiana[03:32:24] *** basic6 has quit IRC[03:35:04] *** irker846 has quit IRC[04:09:39] *** szaydel has quit IRC[04:24:32] *** iolaus has joined #openindiana[04:25:41] <iolaus> Hey all, quick question... When I set up OpenIndiana on my server it was connected to a monitor that supported 1280x1024 and after setup I moved it to another monitor that only supports 1024x768, how can I get the login screen to display at 1024x768?[04:27:20] *** alanc has quit IRC[04:27:38] *** alanc has joined #openindiana[04:27:38] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o alanc[04:34:26] *** sac`away` has quit IRC[04:34:43] *** sac`away has joined #openindiana[04:35:30] *** sac has quit IRC[04:35:40] *** szaydel has joined #openindiana[04:35:53] *** sac has joined #openindiana[04:38:34] <myrkraverk> iolaus, I don't know, but it's the gnome login thing, so maybe that gives you something to google for.[04:44:41] <iolaus> thanks myrkraverk, I'm having a hell of a time figuring out how to change this[04:44:49] <iolaus> such a big PITA for such a simple thing[04:45:03] <myrkraverk> *nod*[04:47:07] *** alex1 has joined #openindiana[04:52:15] <alanc> unless you hardcoded it in a config file, the Xorg server should get the monitor resolution from the monitor via EDID at startup[05:00:18] *** SonikkuAmerica has joined #openindiana[05:12:12] *** hecsa_ has quit IRC[05:12:26] *** hecsa_ has joined #openindiana[05:14:42] *** szaydel has quit IRC[05:29:19] *** SonikkuAmerica has quit IRC[05:29:41] *** szaydel has joined #openindiana[05:31:15] *** SonikkuAmerica has joined #openindiana[05:42:17] *** SonikkuAmerica has quit IRC[05:43:17] *** szaydel has quit IRC[05:48:15] <iolaus> alanc: for whatever reason, even after a reboot Xorg is trying to use 1280x1024 despite the fact that the display doesn't support it[05:48:24] <iolaus> no hardcoded config file[05:49:01] <iolaus> wonder if the EDID is bad (or non-existant) on this monitor, it is a rack-mount keyboard/monitor combo[05:49:09] *** tuf8_ has joined #openindiana[05:55:36] *** tuf8_ has quit IRC[05:56:08] *** blues_air has joined #openindiana[05:56:55] *** Vutral has quit IRC[05:59:20] *** tuf8_ has joined #openindiana[06:00:28] *** blues_air has quit IRC[06:01:54] *** Vutral has joined #openindiana[06:06:39] *** Vutral has quit IRC[06:08:58] *** hecsa_ has quit IRC[06:09:07] *** Vutral has joined #openindiana[06:09:16] *** hecsa_ has joined #openindiana[06:26:25] *** phobos_anomaly has joined #openindiana[06:31:34] *** alex1 has quit IRC[06:56:28] *** blues_air has joined #openindiana[07:01:11] *** blues_air has quit IRC[07:36:43] *** jim80net has quit IRC[07:40:39] *** jim80net has joined #openindiana[07:40:40] *** jim80net has quit IRC[07:53:22] <iolaus> Having an issue where every time I try to use "su" (ie. "su ls") I get the error "su: Unknown id: <cmd>" (ie. "su: Unknown id: ls")[07:53:41] <iolaus> I can just type "su" without a command and get root privelages[07:53:52] <iolaus> does anyone have any idea what would cause this?[07:57:21] <rlaager> iolaus: I'm a Linux guy, so it may be different on OpenIndiana, but that sounds like you're just using it wrong. You either want sudo ls (or possibly pfexec ls since this is OI) or su -c ls.[07:58:07] <iolaus> rlaager: thank you so much[07:58:23] <iolaus> My brain is melting[07:58:34] <iolaus> of course I meant to be using sudo[07:59:27] <iolaus> it's been a LONG night, now I can go to bed and not be haunted by that error[07:59:29] <iolaus> :)[08:00:21] <iolaus> thanks again![08:00:42] <rlaager> No problem.[08:03:43] *** hecsa_ has quit IRC[08:03:58] *** hecsa_ has joined #openindiana[08:08:36] *** phobos_anomaly has quit IRC[08:11:44] *** Lee- has joined #openindiana[08:29:50] *** iolaus has quit IRC[08:30:47] *** iolaus has joined #openindiana[08:33:29] *** iolaus has quit IRC[08:42:51] *** master_o1_master has joined #openindiana[08:46:28] *** master_of_master has quit IRC[08:57:07] *** blues_air has joined #openindiana[09:01:19] *** hecsa_ has quit IRC[09:01:33] *** hecsa_ has joined #openindiana[09:01:48] *** blues_air has quit IRC[09:19:13] *** rfm has quit IRC[09:19:44] *** zmike123 has joined #openindiana[09:20:01] *** texarcana has quit IRC[09:21:49] *** hlangeveld has joined #openindiana[09:22:02] *** texarcana has joined #openindiana[09:44:47] *** worsoe has joined #openindiana[09:56:18] *** love_color_text has joined #openindiana[09:57:29] *** blues_air has joined #openindiana[10:04:43] *** worsoe has quit IRC[10:05:47] *** blues_air has quit IRC[10:41:52] *** irker465 has joined #openindiana[10:41:52] <irker465> spec-files-extra [5425] tom68 encumbered/SFEmpd.spec: re-enter pnm_macros for libsndfile and header/audio[10:50:32] *** andy_js has joined #openindiana[10:56:36] *** hecsa_ has quit IRC[10:56:54] *** hecsa_ has joined #openindiana[11:02:25] *** blues_air has joined #openindiana[11:07:07] *** blues_air has quit IRC[11:09:43] *** worsoe has joined #openindiana[11:22:14] *** love_color_text has quit IRC[11:37:31] *** jpeeters has joined #openindiana[11:40:51] *** jpeeters has left #openindiana[11:40:59] *** love_color_text has joined #openindiana[11:44:05] *** love_color_text has quit IRC[11:54:13] *** hecsa_ has quit IRC[11:54:30] *** hecsa_ has joined #openindiana[12:01:33] *** alex1 has joined #openindiana[12:02:45] *** blues_air has joined #openindiana[12:07:02] *** blues_air has quit IRC[12:16:08] *** jpeeters has joined #openindiana[12:16:13] <jpeeters> Hi everyone[12:16:22] <jpeeters> I am trying to recover from an old BE[12:16:32] <jpeeters> I am on the live-usb openindiana[12:16:51] <jpeeters> how can I view the zpools from a drive in the machine?[12:17:14] <jpeeters> For instance, the rpool was on a usb key how can I make it visible in the zpool list ?[12:17:22] <jpeeters> zpool online ?[12:25:56] <tomww> hi jpeeters[12:26:08] <jpeeters> hi[12:26:12] <tomww> zpool import on the command line shoul dgive you the pool which can be imported[12:26:19] <jpeeters> tomww: nice to see you again[12:26:45] <tomww> yeah, same here[12:26:51] <jpeeters> My plan to solve my problem is the following as I want to move my rpool to another disk at the same time, please tell me if it is not good[12:27:00] <jpeeters> 1) make the rpool from the usb key appear[12:27:11] <jpeeters> 2) create a new pool on the new drive[12:27:40] <jpeeters> 3) do a lucreate -n newBE -s source-BE -p new-rpool for moving the BE[12:28:11] <tomww> the old Solaris 10 notation .-)[12:28:21] <jpeeters> ok so zpool import with any argument give the list of pools that can be imported right ?[12:28:25] <jpeeters> tomww: old notation ?[12:28:42] <jpeeters> humm… I should look at the solaris 11 doc then ?[12:28:53] <tomww> Solaris 10 used to have "lucreate". that is all replaces by "beadm" in OpenSolaris/S1olaris 11/Openindiana[12:29:03] <tomww> yes, S11 docs[12:29:14] <jpeeters> ok[12:29:19] <tomww> I would suggest to have an import of the existing rpool first.[12:29:50] <tomww> There should be an option to do that read-only just in case it immediatly wants to start writing new blocks while there are no free ones left.[12:30:04] <tomww> "atime" is a bad boy in that case.[12:30:45] <jpeeters> ok but have I to import all pools ? can I only import the rpool and leaving data pools untouched ?[12:31:11] <tomww> only rpool is important for now[12:31:21] <tomww> does the import work? probably yes.[12:31:43] <jpeeters> I haven't typed the command yet[12:31:51] <jpeeters> just zpool import ? without argument ?[12:32:01] <tomww> you might need the "-f" swtich because the old hostname indicating the last machine using the rpool is still recorded in the pool[12:32:13] <tomww> zpool import rpool would say it won't.[12:32:19] <tomww> zpool import -f rpool[12:32:24] <jpeeters> ok[12:32:54] <tomww> that woudl import it and override the slight protection against multiple pool imports in a shared disk environment (e.g. a SAN with multiple hosts with access to the networked disks)[12:33:09] <tomww> what does zpool list print now? (use pastebin or similar)[12:33:59] *** echobinary has joined #openindiana[12:34:06] <tomww> (btw, I'm away every now and then becasue I'm on the way of repairing an IPS repository server on the other screen)[12:34:12] *** echobinary1 has quit IRC[12:35:52] <jpeeters> I am sorry but I cannot use pastebin as I am not on the same computer[12:36:05] <jpeeters> the zpool import works fine and list the pools[12:36:25] <jpeeters> but zpool import -f rpool crashed the machine with multiple write errors[12:36:33] <tomww> aha.[12:36:46] <tomww> you could try the read-only option at zpool import time[12:37:01] <tomww> just to see if its possible to import the pool at all[12:37:29] <jpeeters> ok[12:37:42] <tomww> question, how much is the content of rpool worth currently, as I have an idea in mind[12:38:09] <jpeeters> it is a 16GB usb key with ~3.5 GB per BE[12:38:22] <tomww> the read-only option would at least give you a chance to read the old Bootenvironments (ether config files or the whole BE)[12:38:42] <jpeeters> and 3 BE installed: 151a7 initial setup, 151a7 update and 151a8 failed update[12:39:33] <tomww> I'm wondering why you cet system crashes, it should only print errors instead crashing if the pool is full.[12:39:45] <tomww> s/cet/get/[12:41:04] <tomww> other idea is turning the clock back, that is, importing the pool with an older timestamp. I don't know if the is done easily, but would be an interesting options as the pool woul dnot be filled overly and there is room for[12:41:13] <tomww> ersaing a zfs filesystem.[12:41:17] <jpeeters> sure it not kernel panic or something like that but it looks like the system hangs with the USBkey led always blinking[12:41:19] <tomww> *erasing[12:42:10] <jpeeters> I rebooted the machine sorry, I haven't typed the command with read-only option yet[12:44:36] <jpeeters> tomww: ok the readonly import worked like a charm[12:44:43] <jpeeters> with an interesting point[12:45:07] <jpeeters> the initial setup BE has disappeared like ZFS cleaned up some space on the usb key[12:45:33] <jpeeters> the last working BE is visible with mount point /[12:49:00] <tomww> beadm might be able to mount the BE propperly.[12:49:13] <tomww> and if you look for the ammount of free space (zpool list)[12:49:30] <tomww> if there are severly MBs free, you can cleanup stuff to get more free space.[12:49:56] <tomww> with ZFS you always need a few MBs of free space to say delete something. because of the copy-on-write nature[12:50:06] <jpeeters> there is 55% capacity left (strange isn't it)[12:52:56] <jpeeters> tomww: I don't want to cleanup space in the usbkey I think that i would be simpler to copy the working BE to the new disk I installed[12:58:17] *** echobinary1 has joined #openindiana[12:58:53] <tomww> okay. I have no ready-to-use step guide at hand which helps to move the BE to the new destination in a bootable manner.[12:59:37] <tomww> but I think if you for instance look for the SmartOS docs ddescribung how to make the USB key with the SmartOS boot image a bootable disk, that could help.[13:00:27] *** echobinary has quit IRC[13:01:00] <tomww> you have a number of zpool properties to have it bootable and there is grub with boot sectors and stage1 + stage2 and so on. grub finds its target ZFS filesystem by using flag files in a fixed location telling which filesystem/Bootenvironment_name a specific filesystem is[13:03:06] *** blues_air has joined #openindiana[13:04:41] <jpeeters> I find a guide: http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E26502_01/html/E29007/gjtuk.html#gmccu[13:05:25] <jpeeters> beadm create -e <oldBE> -p rpool0 <newBE>[13:05:32] <jpeeters> ;)[13:07:11] <jpeeters> tomww: I think this should work[13:07:43] *** blues_air has quit IRC[13:10:24] <tomww> let me know if that works[13:10:32] *** alex1 has quit IRC[13:11:27] <jpeeters> tomww: as the new disk is an SSD can I use it to store the new rpool and a L2ARC cache for instance?[13:11:45] <jpeeters> the SSD is an old intel without support for trim[13:12:04] <jpeeters> is it relevant ?[13:12:10] <tomww> yes. should work. I ususally use slices _or_ fdisk partitions to keep things separate[13:12:41] <tomww> als it is an rpool, there can't be a log but cache is possible.[13:13:06] <tomww> therefore I partition some gigabytes for cache (e.g. 10 to 50 GBytes)[13:13:37] <tomww> in case of fdisk, I use a primary partition p1 for the OS and a primatry partiton p2 for cache.[13:14:11] <jpeeters> ok then when I create the zpool I can specify one partition or the other?[13:14:17] <tomww> in case of slices, p1 would be the whole disk but by solaris slices the rpool would be in s0 and cache in e.g. s7 (10-50GB)[13:15:37] <jpeeters> fdisk looks easier to use than slices[13:17:48] <tomww> make almost no difference, I like fdisk more, as there are[13:18:06] <tomww> 4 primary and up to 15 (?) logical drives possible[13:18:15] <jpeeters> ok[13:18:22] <tomww> so in some way more flexible then toe 7 or 8 solaris sclices only.[13:18:26] <jpeeters> I only need two partition here[13:18:38] <jpeeters> ok[13:19:02] <tomww> you would call "format", go for "fdisk", partiton the 1st dos partition solaris2 type, then the 2nd partiton solaris2 type[13:19:10] <jpeeters> for a home server with data mostly in read access, a L2ARC cache is sufficient or a ZIL is also required ?[13:19:19] <jpeeters> and what about the cache size?[13:19:32] <tomww> for zpool device you specify for non-grub-2-EFI installs a solaris slice.[13:20:17] <tomww> so after fdisk, you fo for format - partition and make S0 the whole size of the (DOS 1st) -partition[13:20:45] <tomww> then specify c?t?d?s0 as device for the zpool (important: the s0)[13:20:51] * tomww is away for lunch now[13:21:17][13:26:40] <jpeeters> tomww: format and then fdisk ?[13:37:44] <lblume> jpeeters: run format, then choose its fdisk option first to start it[13:39:34] <lblume> It s easier since it allows you to select your disk in a list rather than run fdisk on the CLI using a device[13:40:27] <jpeeters> hum ok[13:40:30] <jpeeters> format -f ?[13:40:39] <jpeeters> format command only gives me a list of devices[13:41:46] <jpeeters> lblume: I am not sure I understand what you mean[13:41:56] *** irker465 has quit IRC[13:43:28] <lblume> format -> select device -> fdisk[13:43:53] <lblume> Or you can use parted or gparted as well if youre more comfortable with that, it should be there[13:44:19] *** zmike123 has quit IRC[13:45:41] *** Vutral has quit IRC[13:49:57] *** hecsa_ has quit IRC[13:50:14] *** hecsa_ has joined #openindiana[13:50:53] *** patdk-lap has joined #openindiana[13:54:46] <tomww> yes, fdisk is an option inside the format menu. right after selecting the disk.[13:55:10] <tomww> saves from calculating the right device path and hand that to fdisk[13:57:52] *** zmike123 has joined #openindiana[14:03:25] *** blues_air has joined #openindiana[14:07:53] *** blues_air has quit IRC[14:13:51] *** Vutral has joined #openindiana[14:27:14] *** gm152 has joined #openindiana[14:28:39] *** Vutral has quit IRC[14:32:22] *** Vutral has joined #openindiana[14:33:04] <nikolam> chm viewer for that reads VirtualBox help, now can read other .chm files, too. ;p[14:47:12] *** hecsa_ has quit IRC[14:47:29] *** hecsa_ has joined #openindiana[15:01:59] *** JStoker has quit IRC[15:03:30] *** JStoker has joined #openindiana[15:03:45] *** blues_air has joined #openindiana[15:07:55] *** blues_air has quit IRC[15:12:52] *** szaydel has joined #openindiana[15:16:24] <jpeeters> tomww, lblume: ok thanks. But I have one issue, the port on which the new disk is connected use IDE emulation and fdisk ask me the number of cylinder of the drive[15:16:34] <jpeeters> I update the bios first to use AHCI on the port[15:27:04] *** jpeeters has quit IRC[15:45:31] <tomww> yes, AHCI is what you want. sometimes there is modes IDE, AHCI, RAID.[16:04:04] *** blues_air has joined #openindiana[16:08:30] *** blues_air has quit IRC[16:29:08] *** szaydel has quit IRC[16:42:22] *** hecsa_ has quit IRC[16:42:42] *** hecsa_ has joined #openindiana[16:52:44] *** jpeeters has joined #openindiana[16:56:48] *** Vutral has quit IRC[16:59:05] *** Vutral has joined #openindiana[17:04:25] *** blues_air has joined #openindiana[17:09:06] *** blues_air has quit IRC[17:15:18] *** tsoome has joined #openindiana[17:40:00] *** hecsa_ has quit IRC[17:40:14] *** hecsa_ has joined #openindiana[17:48:37] *** CVLTCMK0 has quit IRC[17:50:00] *** rfm has joined #openindiana[18:02:35] *** W0rmDr1nk has quit IRC[18:04:51] *** szaydel has joined #openindiana[18:08:44] *** szaydel has quit IRC[18:09:47] *** love_color_text has joined #openindiana[18:10:57] *** keyvan has joined #openindiana[18:14:30] *** love_color_text has quit IRC[18:20:37] *** nikolam has quit IRC[18:29:17] *** myrkraverk has quit IRC[18:32:32] *** zmike123 has quit IRC[18:43:38] *** nikolam has joined #openindiana[19:03:30] *** love_color_text has joined #openindiana[19:03:39] *** keyvan has quit IRC[19:04:46] *** blues_air has joined #openindiana[19:09:30] *** blues_air has quit IRC[19:10:56] *** InTheWings has joined #openindiana[19:19:16] *** patdk-lap has quit IRC[19:19:35] *** matsim has quit IRC[19:19:54] *** Triskelios has joined #openindiana[19:20:13] *** matsim has joined #openindiana[19:20:47] *** Triskelios has quit IRC[19:21:55] *** Triskelios has joined #openindiana[19:26:56] *** doug_ndndn has quit IRC[19:27:05] *** worsoe has quit IRC[19:29:03] *** keyvan has joined #openindiana[19:30:05] *** myrkraverk has joined #openindiana[19:30:06] *** myrkraverk has quit IRC[19:30:06] *** myrkraverk has joined #openindiana[19:32:11] *** love_color_text has quit IRC[19:35:41] *** hecsa_ has quit IRC[19:37:04] *** patdk-lap has joined #openindiana[19:37:16] *** hecsa_ has joined #openindiana[19:41:34] *** hlangeveld has quit IRC[19:44:52] *** keyvan has quit IRC[19:46:03] <jpeeters> tomww: I did the fdisk with two partitions[19:46:31] <jpeeters> but there is c3t5d0s[0…10][19:46:44] <jpeeters> what does this means?[19:59:46] <jpeeters> lblume: there ,[19:59:47] <jpeeters> ?[20:02:11] <nikolam> slice 0[20:05:56] <jpeeters> hi nikolam[20:05:58] <jpeeters> slice 0[20:05:59] <jpeeters> ?[20:06:33] <nikolam> hi, what is it that you want to do.[20:07:54] <jpeeters> sorry I don't understand[20:08:32] <jpeeters> nikolam: ok I think I understand what you mean[20:08:44] <jpeeters> I should use the slice 0 for the rpool right ?[20:08:52] <jpeeters> how can I use the second partition ?[20:09:00] <jpeeters> I made with fdisk ?[20:09:25] <nikolam> just a sec, do you need to retain some other partition on that disk?[20:09:34] <nikolam> you use text install?[20:09:45] <jpeeters> text install yes[20:10:01] <jpeeters> I created two fdisk partition from a blank ssd[20:10:28] <jpeeters> I want the first one for the rpool and the second one for L2ARC cache[20:11:11] <jpeeters> does it answer your question?[20:12:35] <nikolam> great[20:13:01] <nikolam> i personally, never used text install, i always just used upgrades[20:13:09] <jpeeters> ok[20:13:30] <nikolam> but you just make rpool on that one you think for the system[20:13:30] <jpeeters> can you help me with the partitionning and the setup of the pool .[20:13:31] <jpeeters> ?[20:13:54] <nikolam> well, you said you already partitioned it[20:14:22] <nikolam> installer should do it for you.[20:14:53] <jpeeters> in fact you won't use the installer… I move an already installed system to another disk[20:14:54] <nikolam> you use usb/dvd of 151a8 , what is purpose of that machine you install?[20:15:28] <nikolam> aha I see. If you use snapshots and zfs send, you need to make sure both zpools and zfs are the same version[20:16:04] <nikolam> 151a3 is latest tht make and use zpool vestion 28 during install. lates use zfs feature flags[20:16:25] <jpeeters> they are already the same verisions[20:16:27] <nikolam> check what is the zpool/zfs version on the place you transfer system from[20:16:54] <nikolam> ok, great then. you can then try to boot from live media, make rpool and transfer it[20:16:57] <jpeeters> what I just want is to know how can I access the two partitions I created[20:17:28] <jpeeters> yep but I don't know how to make the pools from a partitioned disk[20:17:52] <nikolam> I remember I used to use dev in /dev/rdsk to make pool[20:18:04] <jpeeters> ok[20:18:05] <nikolam> actually installer made mu rpool[20:18:13] <jpeeters> ok[20:18:40] <nikolam> I think pfexec format (sudo format) gives you the device[20:18:56] <Hisa_X> jpeeters: solaris slices are different from fdisk (DOS style) partitions[20:19:34] <nikolam> and then you select fdisk (that is solaris fdisk)[20:19:36] <jpeeters> Hisa_X: I saw that yes[20:19:45] <tomww> jpeeters: while you can have more then one solaris2 partition, only the one set DOS-Fdisk-active is the partition used to make up the slices s0...s7 you see in format for that particular disk[20:19:55] <jpeeters> nikolam: I already use fdisk, resulting in two fdisk partitions[20:20:13] *** love_color_text has joined #openindiana[20:20:18] <Hisa_X> there are all slices in a fdisk partition[20:20:44] <jpeeters> tomww: hi ;-)[20:20:44] <jpeeters> tomww: do you means that the second fdisk partition is not seen ?[20:20:49] <tomww> for log or cache you can directly specify the c?t?d?p2 partion if you want that.[20:21:01] <jpeeters> ok so[20:21:19] <tomww> only make sure that you *never* do a mistake by specifying p1 and the slice s0 in there[20:21:44] <jpeeters> tomww: zpool create -B rpool0 c3t5d0s0 <- this creates the rpool right ?[20:21:51] <tomww> that would result in two uses writing in one place.[20:22:03] <tomww> the second solaris2 disk ist only not seen as a sliced disk[20:22:07] <jpeeters> and zpool rpool0 cache c3t5d0p2 for the L2ARC ?[20:22:09] <nikolam> mine is /dev/rdsk/c7d0s0 where my solaris partition is second partition, actually, firs primary being windows[20:22:59] <tomww> jpeeters: yes, p1 contains slice s0 , sp p1 is forbidden for any other directly specified use[20:23:33] <jpeeters> tomww: ok[20:23:45] <tomww> and p2 is not used as slices, so any slices use is permitted (and actually not usable, not active)[20:23:50] <jpeeters> tomww: there is 10 silces on the disk is that normal?[20:24:20] <nikolam> 10?[20:24:29] <tomww> on X86 there may be more then s0..s7, yes. used to be the booting trick in times before grub appeared in solaris[20:24:50] <nikolam> it is showed in rdsk but nont actually there[20:25:40] <nikolam> jpeeters, again, what is use case for that machine?[20:26:01] <jpeeters> nikolam: homeserver[20:26:19] <jpeeters> tomww: could you validate these commands regarding our discussion ? http://pastebin.com/pKwwFnd3[20:26:24] <nikolam> and what version of OI you are trasferring?[20:27:26] <jpeeters> 151a7[20:28:21] *** nikolam has quit IRC[20:31:09] *** hlangeveld has joined #openindiana[20:31:43] <jpeeters> tomww: zpool create rpool0 c3t5d0s0 failed with I/O error but with c3t5d0p1 it works[20:32:14] <jpeeters> tomww: one strange point is that there is p1..p5 in /dev/dsk/c3t5d0*[20:32:35] <tomww> oh, why this?[20:32:53] <tomww> did you use fomrat and set slice s0 to be the whole p1 partiton size?[20:32:54] *** hecsa_ has quit IRC[20:33:07] <jpeeters> format command in format utility ?[20:33:09] *** hecsa_ has joined #openindiana[20:33:13] <tomww> might be that s0 ist not defined at all, that would probably reject the zfs attempt.[20:33:32] <jpeeters> format failed in the format utility[20:34:19] <tomww> if you do not plan to to other stuff on p1 (that is, no create no slices) then it could work, but I would expect something to fail if you want to use all sorts of beadm scripts on "p1" .. (just a guess)[20:34:41] <tomww> you set the p1 DOS-fdisk partition to "active" ?[20:34:54] <tomww> else there would be no s0...s7 available I think[20:35:03] *** hlangeveld has left #openindiana[20:35:23] <jpeeters> tomww: what I did is the following[20:36:07] <jpeeters> 1) fidsk from format utility with two partitions, the first using percentage and the second using cylinders (this changed the number of sectors of the ssd drive)[20:36:22] <jpeeters> 2) label command[20:36:23] <jpeeters> 3)[20:36:54] <jpeeters> 3) format, continue and gives me an error on block 0 (0/0/0) illegal write[20:37:15] <jpeeters> there is 5 partition and 15 slices accordings to files in /dev/dsk/[20:37:55] <jpeeters> I certainly did something wrong[20:38:04] <jpeeters> but I don't know what[20:38:39] *** nikolam has joined #openindiana[20:38:45] <jpeeters> tomww: sorry for this complicated case[20:40:40] <tomww> oh never mind. tell me if I should show you my config.[20:41:04] *** hecsa_ has quit IRC[20:41:06] <tomww> lots of disk, ssd slices into logical DOS-partitons, most user filesystems with log and separate cache on the SSD,...[20:41:29] <tomww> zpool iostat -v looks pretty funny now[20:42:23] <jpeeters> tomww: I don't know if it would help[20:42:45] <jpeeters> what can you show me ?[20:43:13] *** nikolam has quit IRC[20:44:19] *** keyvan has joined #openindiana[20:44:19] *** keyvan has joined #openindiana[20:45:22] <tomww> O was joking about complecity of disk setups :-)[20:45:26] *** love_color_text has quit IRC[20:45:49] * tomww should more have dinner then chatting tonight :)[20:47:27] *** hecsa_ has joined #openindiana[20:47:34] <jpeeters> ;)[20:47:50] <jpeeters> if you have few minutes I can show you screenshots[20:48:47] <jpeeters> tomww: about joking… it is not often that we can find a "zfs"-friend with same config ;)[20:50:15] <tomww> yeah[20:52:23] <tomww> you might want to make sure that your boot partition p1 is set "active" in DOS-fdisk (format, slect disk, choose fdisk from the menu -> should show "Status" "Active" )[20:52:44] <tomww> after that format should be able to do slices on that partition[20:56:49] <jpeeters> tomww: here is what I have: http://julienpeeters.net/files/fdisk.jpg, http://julienpeeters.net/files/partitions.jpg and http://julienpeeters.net/files/format.jpg[20:57:07] <jpeeters> tomww: sorry these are pictures taken with my mobile phone[20:57:52] <jpeeters> each correspond respectively to format > fdisk, format > partitions > print, and format > format[20:58:23] <jpeeters> tomww: what's your diagnostic doctor :D[20:58:27] <jpeeters> ?[21:00:02] <Patrickdk> why did you attempt to format?[21:00:43] <jpeeters> Patrickdk: because one advice me to do that[21:00:56] <jpeeters> (or it is what I understood of explanation one gave me)[21:02:08] <jpeeters> I am a desperate homeserver administrator :D[21:02:29] <jpeeters> I need to find a desperate housewife[21:03:07] *** love_color_text has joined #openindiana[21:03:44] <jpeeters> I must leave for eating… feel free to leave comments suggestions, voodoo recipes or anything that can help me :D[21:03:55] <jpeeters> I come back I one hour and halt[21:03:59] <jpeeters> and half[21:04:18] *** nikolam has joined #openindiana[21:07:07] *** keyvan has quit IRC[21:08:52] *** love_color_text has quit IRC[21:12:08] *** ozialien has quit IRC[21:14:16] <herzen> hi, after doing a fresh install of oi a8, I changed the host name. I have not been able to sudo to root after doing that.[21:14:30] *** love_color_text has joined #openindiana[21:14:47] <herzen> *su* to root[21:15:20] <herzen> (Fortunately, I had configured sudo to let me use it without supplying a password, so the system is still usable.)[21:16:15] <herzen> both /etc/nodname and /etc/hosts have been changed to reflect the new host name, so I really don't understand why su is broken.[21:16:23] *** |AbsyntH| has joined #openindiana[21:28:26] *** love_color_text has quit IRC[21:47:02] *** myrkraverk has quit IRC[21:48:37] <tomww> jpeeters: aahhh, fdisk.jpeg looks perfect.[21:49:12] <tomww> partitons.jpg shows that you need to re-size the slices. s0 is only 133mbs in size and s6 eats the rest (in short).[21:49:48] <tomww> so make s0 span from cylinder 1 to 7426, set s1, s6 to each zero in size[21:50:22] *** alex3 has joined #openindiana[21:50:49] <tomww> leave s2 untouched, it will be unused (and only usefull to bark at zpool creating time that s2 overlaps, need sthe -f flag at zpool create to override this)[21:52:02] <tomww> and there is no real formatting action, as this is for disk drives from 10 years ago, there was a real low level format for disks. thankfully this low level formatting is gone today.[21:53:37] *** alex3 has quit IRC[21:55:31] *** alex3 has joined #openindiana[21:57:25] *** alex3 has quit IRC[22:01:42] *** myrkraverk has joined #openindiana[22:01:43] *** myrkraverk has quit IRC[22:01:43] *** myrkraverk has joined #openindiana[22:05:45] *** blues_air has joined #openindiana[22:09:49] <jpeeters> tomww: why do the slices not correctly set?[22:10:26] *** blues_air has quit IRC[22:11:38] *** Bdragon has joined #openindiana[22:12:24] <tomww> you don't want slices layout for Solaris 10[22:12:55] <tomww> you want p1 be the rpool? then you assign the whole space to s0, that spans the whole p1 (DOS-fdisk) partition[22:13:26] *** InTheWings has quit IRC[22:13:46] <jpeeters> ok[22:13:58] *** herzen has quit IRC[22:14:20] <jpeeters> tomww: I've just rebooted the server and I see that cyclinders, heads,… have changed[22:14:28] <jpeeters> is there a way to reset the value to factory ?[22:14:53] <jpeeters> I want to do things from scratch now with all the information you gave me[22:17:09] <tomww> I can't see why to care about cylinder/sector counts. it is mostly cosmetic.[22:21:50] *** herzen has joined #openindiana[22:36:02] <jpeeters> tomww: ok[22:36:15] <jpeeters> why the -f at zpool create and why no zeroing the s2 slice?[22:39:16] <tomww> that is to not confuse the russians ( :-) )[22:39:46] <tomww> every Solaris engineer knows the slices are propper, if S2 is there and spans the whole disk.[22:44:55] *** Anton_ has quit IRC[22:49:26] *** merzo has joined #openindiana[22:50:15] *** Anton_ has joined #openindiana[22:52:09] <herzen> so no one can explain to me why I can't log in as root, after changing the hostname? /etc/nodname and /etc/hosts are correct, and I know that the password is correct, since I can do "sudo passwd root"[22:52:35] <myrkraverk> herzen, I certainly can't.[22:52:36] <herzen> also, I enabled virtual consoles, and I can't log in as root from a virtual console, either.[22:53:28] *** szaydel has joined #openindiana[22:54:32] <herzen> my setup is somewhat exotic in that I created my OI BE in vbox, following these intstructions: https://blogs.oracle.com/bobn/entry/solaris_and_opensolaris_coexistence_in[22:56:29] <herzen> if no one else has any ideas, I guess I'll have to go through the process of installing into vbox and then transferring rpool/ROOT from that install into my existing root zpool again.[22:56:46] <herzen> thanks, myrkraverk[22:58:49] *** herzen has quit IRC[23:06:05] *** blues_air has joined #openindiana[23:08:48] *** nikolam has quit IRC[23:10:42] *** blues_air has quit IRC[23:14:47] *** herzen has joined #openindiana[23:17:04] <herzen> I figured out what was going wrong. one of the odd things was that when I booted into a backup BE from before I changed the hostname, I still couldn't log in as root. I just logged in to one of the BE's and tried su, and got the message "roles can only be assumed by authorized users". (that message disappears after the first time su fails.)[23:18:48] <jpeeters> tomww: the bad new is that it looks not working when using read-only be for creating a new one[23:19:24] <herzen> so then I remembered that I had removed root as a role from my account. duh. 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