September 2, 2013 
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May be sorted in hipster of course as they should have the upstream changes.[10:46:11] *** zmike1234 has joined #openindiana[10:47:51] <Ch00k> Triskelios: JT-EC so should I check hipster prior to reopening?[10:48:18] <Ch00k> and if it is in hipster, any chance it could get into 151a* ?[10:51:24] *** lewq has joined #openindiana[10:55:25] <JT-EC> Ch00k: Trisk has already reopened. Will look at it for /dev releases.[10:57:54] <Ch00k> JT-EC: thanks[11:02:12] *** tsoome has joined #openindiana[11:11:02] *** BobTb has joined #openindiana[11:11:43] <BobTb> Hi, I am trying to mount a NFS share on a client and I am getting NFS4ERR_MINOR_VERS_MISMATCH[11:12:13] <tsoome> nfsv4 versus 4.1?[11:12:33] <MarcelT> likely[11:12:41] <MarcelT> what is the nfs client?[11:12:41] <BobTb> yes, I beleive it should do it with lower version by itself?[11:13:10] <MarcelT> an illumos based?[11:13:11] <BobTb> it is this one: http://www.citi.umich.edu/projects/nfsv4/windows/readme.html[11:13:30] <MarcelT> Windows NFS 4.1 Client Instructions[11:13:45] <BobTb> It is a windows client[11:13:57] <MarcelT> it cannot work with stock illumos/openindiana[11:14:02] *** echobinary has joined #openindiana[11:14:06] <BobTb> oh....[11:14:18] <MarcelT> unless it supports nfs 4.0 too[11:14:40] <BobTb> it almost does ... just a .1 too much :([11:15:06] <BobTb> so what we have here is 4.0 server?[11:15:06] <tsoome> does it mount command support -o vers=4 or something like that?[11:15:16] <MarcelT> BobTb: yes[11:15:40] <BobTb> ok. Somehow I beleived it is 4.1 or that is is compatible backward .. somehow[11:16:33] <BobTb> Does anyone know of a windows nfs client? THis was the only one I managed to find. THe built in has no UTF-8 support...[11:17:03] <BobTb> .-.. an works on windows 7 enterprise only[11:24:13] <tsoome> just use cifs?[11:25:30] <BobTb> no, It disconnects my indesign (only indd files) users randomly from their files...[11:25:49] <tsoome> kernel cifs?[11:25:57] <tsoome> or samba as well?[11:26:34] <BobTb> kernel cifs, never tried samba... the kernel one works very good, with the domain users and stuff otherwise[11:26:54] <BobTb> if I do samba, I can not have kernel cfis at the same time[11:26:59] <tsoome> yep[11:27:09] <BobTb> :([11:28:34] <BobTb> I can mount the NFS on the server 2008... and will try to share that thing out, speed does not really matter, just that it works[11:28:36] <tsoome> for test purpose you can set your syslog to record daemon.debug and see if you get any messages to file bugreport about cifs[11:29:08] <BobTb> I did a wireshark capture on the client at the moment when it crashed - lost connection[11:29:18] <BobTb> there is nothing in syslog[11:29:32] <tsoome> its logging into .debug[11:29:50] <BobTb> oh..[11:38:12] *** ivan\ has quit IRC[11:41:17] <BobTb> so if I add daemon.debug line in syslog.conf I will get it there?[11:41:44] <tsoome> yes[11:42:09] <tsoome> remember there are tabs used for separator[11:42:50] <BobTb> ok. thx[11:54:46] *** hicl_at_work has quit IRC[12:04:38] *** ivan\ has joined #openindiana[12:05:20] *** nikolam has quit IRC[12:16:38] *** held has quit IRC[12:23:29] *** |AbsyntH| has quit IRC[12:50:06] *** held has joined #openindiana[12:50:29] *** zmike1234 has quit IRC[13:02:29] <Worsoe> A review of Openindiana on Distrowatch today http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20130902#feature[13:07:12] *** nsuperbus has joined #openindiana[13:07:49] *** W0rmDr1nk has joined #openindiana[13:12:38] <alp> how can I generate password for sysidcfg?[13:13:10] <alp> password taken from /etc/shadow doesn't work...[13:13:34] <alp> syntax error line 9 position 15[13:13:36] <alp> root_password=[13:13:37] <alp> ...[13:14:24] <tsoome> make sure you are taking the actual password hash, without :[13:14:52] <tsoome> also note there can't be spaces[13:22:00] <alp> no spaces, it's actual hash... I've seen messages that OpenSolaris password format didn't work. Is it still true?[13:23:14] *** Seony has quit IRC[13:23:28] <Worsoe> Just want to say that pkgsrc starts kick ass on illumos. Now more than 10,000 packages http://www.perkin.org.uk/posts/whats-new-in-pkgsrc-2013Q2.html[13:28:53] *** nsuperbus has quit IRC[13:32:45] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[13:32:59] *** andy_js has quit IRC[13:33:27] *** szaydel has joined #openindiana[13:35:53] *** gm152 has joined #openindiana[13:37:18] *** dijenerate has joined #openindiana[13:42:27] *** andy_js has joined #openindiana[14:15:17] *** gm152 has quit IRC[14:36:19] *** |AbsyntH| has joined #openindiana[14:36:23] *** MarcelT has quit IRC[14:40:10] *** MarcelT has joined #openindiana[14:47:16] *** WormDr1nk has joined #openindiana[14:47:52] *** Seemone has joined #openindiana[14:48:02] *** Seemone has left #openindiana[14:49:03] *** W0rmDr1nk has quit IRC[15:09:39] <alp> is there any decent way to change user password in script except "expect"?[15:12:28] *** Odyessus has joined #openindiana[15:17:02] <alp> Cool! openssl passwd is my friend. An if you generate crypt-encrypted passwd, you can even use it in sysidcfg[15:22:51] *** doug_ndndn has joined #openindiana[15:25:00] *** Odyessus has quit IRC[15:31:35] <tsoome> ah, the issue was md5 hash?[15:33:24] *** Odyessus has joined #openindiana[15:47:51] *** gm152 has joined #openindiana[15:52:30] *** Odyessus_ has joined #openindiana[15:53:03] *** Odyessus has quit IRC[16:03:16] *** Worsoe has quit IRC[16:05:59] *** Odyessus_ has quit IRC[16:08:16] *** arielb has joined #openindiana[16:10:12] *** lewq has quit IRC[16:10:20] *** arielb has quit IRC[16:11:03] *** arielb2 has joined #openindiana[16:15:24] *** Odyessus has joined #openindiana[16:21:23] *** tsoome has quit IRC[16:46:23] *** Odyessus has quit IRC[16:47:13] *** Odyessus has joined #openindiana[16:49:49] *** Ch00k has quit IRC[17:08:26] *** tsoome has joined #openindiana[17:09:00] *** alcir has quit IRC[17:11:36] *** Odyessus has quit IRC[17:16:53] *** Odyessus has joined #openindiana[17:17:02] *** nightwalk has quit IRC[17:21:41] *** nightwalk has joined #openindiana[17:26:09] *** nightwalk has quit IRC[17:26:27] *** Odyessus has quit IRC[17:41:09] *** Ch00k has joined #openindiana[17:41:24] *** SonikkuAmerica has joined #openindiana[17:45:13] *** nightwalk has joined #openindiana[17:55:15] *** nikolam has joined #openindiana[17:56:06] *** |AbsyntH| has quit IRC[18:04:25] *** Odyessus has joined #openindiana[18:11:51] *** Ch00k has quit IRC[18:19:36] *** WormDr1nk has quit IRC[18:29:16] *** gm152 has quit IRC[18:32:35] *** held has quit IRC[18:33:49] *** rfm has joined #openindiana[18:37:45] *** InTheWings has joined #openindiana[18:43:47] *** Anton_ has quit IRC[18:43:53] *** Odyessus has quit IRC[18:45:00] *** merzo has joined #openindiana[18:46:36] *** held has joined #openindiana[18:48:36] *** Anton_ has joined #openindiana[18:58:47] *** Seemone has joined #openindiana[18:59:10] *** ignasr has joined #openindiana[19:03:04] *** Seemone has quit IRC[19:11:06] *** W0rmDr1nk has joined #openindiana[19:14:17] *** CME has quit IRC[19:19:18] *** KermitTheFragger has quit IRC[19:23:41] *** CME has joined #openindiana[19:29:40] *** Anton_ has quit IRC[19:33:20] *** patdk-lap has quit IRC[19:35:31] *** Anton_ has joined #openindiana[19:46:32] *** patdk-lap has joined #openindiana[19:48:21] *** Fersure has quit IRC[19:48:44] *** Fersure has joined #openindiana[19:52:58] *** EisNerd_ has quit IRC[20:00:17] *** jgrafton has joined #openindiana[20:00:31] *** Meths_ has joined #openindiana[20:00:54] *** Meths has quit IRC[20:08:41] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[20:10:29] *** dijenerate has joined #openindiana[20:25:32] *** Ch00k has joined #openindiana[20:27:21] *** Ch00k has quit IRC[20:29:11] *** Meths_ is now known as Meths[20:29:22] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Meths[20:30:50] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[20:31:43] *** dijenerate has joined #openindiana[20:41:44] *** yakov has joined #openindiana[20:41:50] <yakov> hello[20:45:12] <yakov> i got green screen and nothing more trying to install oi desktop on thinkpad with intel-only video :)[20:45:21] <yakov> is that shit known?[20:49:42] <Sand2Silicon> Worsoe - thanks for links. :)[20:50:25] *** Ch00k has joined #openindiana[20:51:25] *** arielb2 has quit IRC[21:07:48] *** alex4 has quit IRC[21:22:50] *** yakov has quit IRC[21:26:30] *** Ch00k has quit IRC[21:31:21] *** Ch00k has joined #openindiana[21:46:47] *** lewq has joined #openindiana[21:47:19] *** echobinary1 has joined #openindiana[21:48:50] *** echobinary has quit IRC[21:55:07] *** Seony has joined #openindiana[22:00:50] *** merzo has quit IRC[22:01:52] *** |AbsyntH| has joined #openindiana[22:05:34] *** rfm has quit IRC[22:20:25] *** patdk-wk has quit IRC[22:26:39] *** Ch00k has quit IRC[22:29:09] *** echobinary1 has quit IRC[22:29:30] *** echobinary has joined #openindiana[22:33:30] *** patdk-wk has joined #openindiana[22:37:36] <Khol> Possibly dumb newb question, but I'm trying to remove the SUNWbind package with pkgrm and it's failing with an internal error:[22:37:36] <Khol> pkgrm: ERROR: unable to change current working directory to </var/sadm/pkg/SUNWbind/install>[22:38:21] <Khol> /var/sadm/pkg/SUNWbind/install/ doesn't exist[22:38:56] <lennard> I imagine something is trying to execute some sort of removal script or something[22:39:12] <lennard> but I don't know shit about pkgrm :P[22:39:17] <Khol> Mmm[22:39:23] <Khol> That's pretty much as far as I had got[22:39:41] <Khol> 151a8, pretty much clean install if that helps any[22:42:31] <Meths> OI has new package management tools. If it's a clean install you shouldn't have SUNWbind installed at all.[22:42:41] <Meths> What does `pkg list | grep bind` show?[22:44:39] <Khol> $ pkg list | grep bind[22:44:39] <Khol> network/dns/bind 9.6.4.9.1-0.151.1.8 i--[22:44:39] <Khol> service/network/dns/bind 9.6.4.9.1-0.151.1.8 i--[22:45:43] <Meths> So if you want to remove those you need to `pkg uninstall -v pkg:/network/dns/bind pkg:/service/network/dns/bind`[22:45:49] <Khol> Ok[22:46:41] <Khol> I am just bumbling around attempting to do things and digging myself into odder and odder issues[22:46:51] <Meths> `man pkg` for more information about the command. `man -s 5 pkg` for more information on the package system.[22:46:59] <Khol> I guess I'm learning how not to do things at least[22:47:41] *** InTheWings has quit IRC[22:47:47] <Khol> Cheers[22:52:01] <Sand2Silicon> I asked a question above (~24h ago) - All my gcc-toolchain cmds are symlinked from /usr/bin to an old SFW install. Whats the smart way to tell OI to forget those and relink to /usr/gcc/4.6 ?[22:54:31] <Meths> Sand2Silicon: There isn't really a smart way AFAIK.[22:54:31] *** cyberspace- has quit IRC[22:55:33] <Meths> Probably just add /usr/gcc/4.6/bin to the beginning of your PATH[22:57:03] *** cyberspace- has joined #openindiana[22:57:35] <Woodstock> adding that to the beginning of $PATH _is_ the smart way :)[22:57:58] <Meths> :)[23:00:22] *** DocHolliday has joined #openindiana[23:00:33] *** DocHolliday has quit IRC[23:01:44] <Sand2Silicon> Everytime I update an application I wonder this. eg. for FFox I have a folder for each version and update the symlink. Some apps like GCC-toolchain are more involed though.[23:02:28] <Sand2Silicon> Adding /usr/gcc/4.6/ to the beginning of my path to override /usr/bin:/bin:... ? Would certainly work but thought that was bad-practice.[23:02:28] <Woodstock> forget about symlinks and use PATH.[23:02:45] <Woodstock> it's the straightforward thing to do[23:06:32] *** timclassic has joined #openindiana[23:08:16] <Sand2Silicon> OK. Thanks! :) Solves the problem at hand.[23:18:07] *** |AbsyntH| has quit IRC[23:25:58] *** andy_js has quit IRC[23:34:55] <DrLou> lblume, ping, perchance?[23:37:24] * lblume puffs out of his bottle[23:37:36] <DrLou> yeah, baby![23:38:13] <DrLou> est-ce possible de parler français avec Postgresql?[23:38:48] <DrLou> I mean, does LC_MESSAGES work for you, in other contexts?[23:39:17] <lblume> I don't use it, but I can give it a try on S10. You have a specific example?[23:40:46] <DrLou> wanna verify that LC_MESSAGES psql does/does not work...[23:40:58] <DrLou> but any concrete example will be helpful[23:41:51] <DrLou> normally, with NLS built in, LC_MESSAGES=fr_FR psql oughta do something[23:43:08] <lblume> Yes, it does for me[23:43:21] <DrLou> really![23:43:39] <lblume> $ LC_MESSAGES=fr_FR.UTF-8 psql --help[23:43:39] <lblume> Bienvenue dans psql 8.1.19, l'interface interactive de PostgreSQL.[23:44:07] <DrLou> lemme go all the way to UTF-8; maybe this is it[23:44:13] <lblume> You have no choice[23:44:29] <lblume> Solaris' localization will not work without an encoding[23:44:35] <lblume> It's not Linux'[23:44:41] <lblume> Well, GNU's[23:44:56] <DrLou> ok, so this must be it. I'd prefer it be pilot error, frankly.[23:45:01] <DrLou> ( have never used it! )[23:46:15] <DrLou> no, not on our 8.4.4 package, as built[23:47:02] <DrLou> nor on the 9.2/9.3 packages I'm building[23:47:16] <DrLou> you tested on Solaris proper, you said?[23:47:27] <lblume> Yes, integrated psql[23:47:46] <lblume> are you sure your build picks up Solaris gettext properly?[23:48:05] <DrLou> no, and this is what I've been focusing in on[23:48:19] <DrLou> ( and trying to use GNU getttext )[23:50:30] <lblume> Wow, I looked at OpenCSW's recipe for it, scary stuff.[23:51:24] <lblume> Do you really need gettext, though? It should not matter for the DB itself.[23:53:17] <DrLou> no, don't need it - precisely.[23:53:40] <DrLou> trying to see if we can get clear of any Solaris-specific stuff[23:53:50] *** EisNerd has joined #openindiana[23:53:56] *** alanc has quit IRC[23:54:14] *** master_o1_master has quit IRC[23:54:14] *** alanc has joined #openindiana[23:54:15] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o alanc[23:54:26] <lblume> I mean,either GNU or Solaris[23:55:35] <DrLou> by 'gettext', I mean - I'm digging through the whole iconv/readline/locales chain to see what might be implicated.[23:55:58] *** master_of_master has joined #openindiana[23:56:02] <DrLou> ( and am a bit surprised I've never used this before myself )[23:59:33] <DrLou> lblume: yeah, am looking at a CSW recipe - it's not very helpful!