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[01:30:58] <LabMan> Hello Channel
[01:36:58] <LabMan> I have a issue with oi 151a6 that I am using as a NFS server. I have 4 10GE ports I am using and when I try a iperf test, 2 are transfering at 6-7Gbps, 2 are at 7-20Mbps. I have looked at the physical layer and the connected switches with no difference. I have also tried restarting and reloading the driver. Any suggestions?
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[01:54:45] <patdk-lap> what exactly is the test?
[01:54:55] <patdk-lap> ramdisk?
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[02:03:28] <break19> ramdisk: how to get a 5.25" floppy into a 3.5" drive..
[02:06:35] <LabMan> iperf generates the data in memory, to avoid any affect of your storae subsystem. I am just trying to get a maximum the network connection can handle.
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[03:20:10] <Aethrs> I cloned a dataset, then promoted the clone.  Now I want to destroy the clone and it tells me I have to destroy the original dataset... Is there some way around this ?
[03:20:30] <Aethrs> I expected promote to remove the dependency, not turn it around backwards
[03:23:16] <Triskelios> surprising as it may be, that is what it does
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[03:39:13] <Aethrs> Interesting..And not what I'd expect.
[03:39:41] <Aethrs> This may seem like a silly question.. But why is that useful?  There must be a different purpose for it than what I tried to use it for.
[03:40:25] <Triskelios> it allows you to destroy the former parent
[03:41:20] <Aethrs> Hmm... So basically use it to destroy a whole ton of snapshots the parent has(along with the parent) while preserving the promoted clone.
[03:45:09] <Aethrs> Guess I should think of it as "swap origin".  Seems I can promote the old dataset and then nuke the promoted clone.
[03:46:14] <patdk-lap> heh, I have never promoted a snapshot before
[03:46:33] <Aethrs> patdk-lap - I was just experimenting...It was surprising. :)
[03:46:47] <patdk-lap> I just don't think I have ever had a need for it
[03:46:56] <patdk-lap> I do make master images, then clone the crap out of them
[03:47:25] <Aethrs> I'm going to be expanding my iPXE use soon, figured out menus. :)
[03:47:32] <Aethrs> So I might be using clone more as well.
[03:50:30] <patdk-lap> hmm, I don't use menus or anything
[03:50:38] <patdk-lap> just set the san disk in dhcp
[03:50:51] <Aethrs> Yeah I've had that working.  I went some machines with menus, however.
[03:51:05] <patdk-lap> mine have to be idiot proof
[03:51:09] <Aethrs> Oh, by the way.. I got srp working on windows.
[03:51:12] <patdk-lap> just turn on, and boot into working windows :)
[03:51:32] <Aethrs> Windows just kind of magically finds the disk and it's under the 'safely unplug hardware' section.
[03:51:36] <patdk-lap> looked into the current infiniband stuff for esxi
[03:51:44] <Aethrs> HOw does it look?
[03:51:50] <patdk-lap> only claimed support for connect-x 2 and 3 cards :(
[03:51:51] <patdk-lap> and no srp
[03:51:58] <patdk-lap> if your using esxi 5.x
[03:52:05] <Aethrs> Hmph.  SRP is kind of required.
[03:52:22] <Aethrs> I still can't get my Linux host to use srp.  It might be that it's 32-bit(?).
[03:52:39] <Aethrs> I'll try it on a 64-bit host soon to see if that's any help
[03:52:41] <patdk-lap> dunno, I only use 64bit
[03:52:55] <Aethrs> I installed this box as 32-bit accidentally quite a while ago..Just never have re-done it.
[03:55:43] <Aethrs> How much are the connextX cards supported by vmware?
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[04:43:12] <patdk-lap> none
[04:43:23] <patdk-lap> you have to get the driver from mellenox
[04:43:34] <patdk-lap> they just released the connect-x 2 and 3 driver for esxi 5.x
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[12:36:09] <OpenIndianaVbox> any plans to get rid of the 8 character limit for a username in the graphical installer?
[12:36:46] <OpenIndianaVbox> its my understanding that its 8 just for backwards compatibility
[12:38:28] <Agnar> users with usernames longer than 8 characters may get into trouble changing their password, will not get shown there full login-name in tools like finger/who/w/etc
[12:38:56] <OpenIndianaVbox> wow, really
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[12:39:32] <Agnar> yes. at least there *used* to be a hard coded limit in the passwd binary for username lengths
[12:40:10] <alanc> if someone still had a copy of the opensolaris bug db, there were a dozen or so bugs that needed to be fixed to make longer usernames work everywhere
[12:40:28] <alanc> http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Community+Group+security/long_usernames
[12:41:25] <Agnar> brb....off for lunch
[12:41:50] <OpenIndianaVbox> thanks for the info
[12:43:04] <OpenIndianaVbox> after the 1st stable release is there any plans to change the default desktop away from gnome2 (i imagine it would be a nightmare to keep using a no longer developed/maintained desktop)
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[13:11:09] <Hans> passwd will succeed if you run the command with your username appended if you've got a longer username, but not without.
[13:11:38] <OpenIndianaVbox> i see
[13:11:39] <Hans> so "passwd verylongusername" will succeed, but "passwd" will not.
[13:12:39] <Hans> Which I guess you could fix by creating an alias for passwd in their .bashrc file
[13:13:24] <OpenIndianaVbox> i wouldn't use it often enough to warrant an alias
[13:15:16] <Hans> fair enough, it's easy enough to remember if it's just for yourself :)
[13:15:32] <OpenIndianaVbox> yeah, thanks
[13:31:52] <lblume> The only bug Ive found for usernames beyond 8 chars was with quota displays (a space was missing to separate fields)
[13:32:39] <lblume> Most of the rest said above is mostly hearsay, repeated endlessly for decades, but without much reality left.
[13:34:14] <lblume> there may be another hard limit at 32, but tbh, I've never needed that much.
[13:34:26] <OpenIndianaVbox> 8 chars does seem rather archaic for a limit
[13:35:35] <lblume> I've been using more than that in production for years, and had no issue other than the quota one (for which I rebuilt the command on Solaris 10 with a small fix).
[13:36:15] <lblume> There are probably some issues left, but there're not overwhelming.
[13:36:21] <lblume> they're, even.
[13:38:35] <Agnar> lblume: it works for most parts. I bet it can result in problems if you use accouting or auditing
[13:38:51] <Agnar> lblume: and it will become a problem if you use nis with non solaris clients
[13:38:56] <Agnar> etc pp
[13:39:08] <lblume> Yes, probably. Sadly, the less used parts are always the most impacted since nobody wants to fix them :-/
[13:39:22] <lblume> And if you use NIS, you deserve all the issues you get anyway :-P
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[13:44:05] <Agnar> lblume: legacy setups! :)
[13:44:48] <lblume> Fossils!
[13:48:00] <Agnar> lblume: I have a customer with various nis+ domains :)
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[13:54:03] <lblume> Wow, the only thing worse than NIS!
[13:57:45] <Agnar> not really. nis+ is quiete ok...and my customer has built legacy binaries creating own tables in it - which makes the switch to ldap not so easy ,)
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[14:00:13] <lblume> Well, NIS+ is officially unsupported, and not that much more secure than NIS, so meh :-)
[14:01:07] <Agnar> lblume: we run it together with the nfs via ipsec...paranoia was our friend ,)
[14:01:42] <lblume> Ah , wow, talk about overhead!
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[14:09:05] <tsoome> im using nfs with kerberos, so far so good:)
[14:12:15] <OpenIndianaVbox> after the 1st stable release is there any plans to change the default desktop away from gnome2 (i imagine it would be a nightmare to keep using a no longer developed/maintained desktop)
[14:12:16] <tsoome> solaris has no good history about maintaining the desktop to be up to date...
[14:12:17] <tsoome> guess its mostly about manpower anyhow…
[14:12:17] <Agnar> since maintaining the desktop usually means in sun term that the facility management has to make sure the desk is stable enough to put a 22" CRT on it ,)
[14:12:53] <lblume> I like gnome2 :-)
[14:13:03] <Agnar> I want my sun CDE back!
[14:13:16] <lblume> You have better, you have OpenGroup CDE!
[14:14:30] <OpenIndianaVbox> but gnome2 is no longer maintained, so wouldn't that mean you'd be propping up a dead codebase? you'd need to take care of all bugfixes since there isn't any more upstream?
[14:14:59] <Agnar> lblume: opengroup cde is to old...and a lot of components are missing
[14:15:07] <lblume> Oracle and RHEL, at least, are going to maintain it for years to come. So I am not too worried.
[14:15:11] <Gibheer> or just abandon the desktop all along and just let them use the terminal ;)
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[14:15:47] <lblume> Agnar: I thought their version was actually much more recent, CDE 2.0 instead of 1.6, but not necessarily with all the Sun patches to it?
[14:16:13] <Agnar> lblume: their docs say the reference platform to compile these sources was solaris 2.4 iirc
[14:16:17] <Agnar> so...
[14:16:31] <Agnar> it can't be that recent
[14:17:22] <lblume> That would only mean that Sun lost all interest in OpenGroup CDE at that time, since they had their own fork. But not necessarily that they stopped working on it.
[14:18:05] <lblume> But sure, recenter or not, it won't be Sun CDE.
[14:18:25] <Agnar> and I want that :)
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[14:19:31] <alanc> yeah, Sun mostly shipped TOG CDE 1.0.something + a ton of Sun changes + a few bits from TOG CDE 2.1 (like Motif 2.1 and the libraries around it)
[14:20:53] <Agnar> dear larry, could you please release the sun cde sources? thanks, olaf
[14:20:55] <Agnar> ;)
[14:21:13] <lblume> We, he could not, since they were not HIS sources
[14:21:43] <lblume> Now that TOG has opened, maybe, but probably not trivially so since they're not the same version they opened
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[14:24:53] <Hans> Bleh, just noticed quite some low performance. Did some verbose zfs send / receive to test the stuff, and noticed transfer performance (locally, one zpool of 6 disks with ZIL/L2ARC on SSD to another zpool as mirror of two disks) of between 50 and 200 kB/s.
[14:24:53] <Hans> Tried some write performance using dd from zero and random with similar performances on both disks, about 445 MB/s from zero, and 28.1 kB/s from random.
[14:25:38] <lblume> You should use urandom for such tests
[14:25:55] <Hans> allrighty, one moment :)
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[14:28:35] <Hans> Okay, 45MB/s write on the RaidZ2 pool with ZIL/L2Arc and 39MB/s on the mirror
[14:29:52] <Hans> sounds a bit slow to me for a big pool.... :/
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[19:08:06] <Uranio> I have running the USB images of the text version... how can install?
[19:10:14] <tsoome> it should start the installer if you boot it….
[19:11:23] <Uranio> well... it should be bad downloader... their drop me for a text console :(
[19:11:40] <Uranio> each command typed say "/usr/bin/hostname command not found"
[19:12:39] <Triskelios> bad image, not written properly, or booting from unsupported USB 3.0 controller
[19:13:15] <Uranio> can be a lot of things :(
[19:13:29] <Uranio> I'm using a qemu from debian
[19:14:06] <Uranio> is satart up, and ask to maintance password
[19:14:11] <Uranio> satart = start
[19:15:57] <Triskelios> is qemu actually emulating a USB device?
[19:16:21] <Triskelios> if it's not, that could explain the problem
[19:16:29] <Triskelios> just use the CD image instead
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[19:36:17] <Uranio> thanks Triskelios
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