September 18, 2012 
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September 18, 2012 [00:01:18] *** Kaishi has joined #openindiana[00:11:44] *** break19 has joined #openindiana[00:12:59] *** merzo has quit IRC[00:14:43] *** merzo has joined #openindiana[00:20:49] *** drajen has quit IRC[00:25:15] *** jim80net has quit IRC[00:26:10] *** InTheWings has quit IRC[00:39:45] *** ball has joined #openindiana[00:54:09] *** russiane39 has quit IRC[01:09:49] *** LabMan_ has joined #openindiana[01:12:10] *** LabMan has quit IRC[01:12:34] *** drajen has joined #openindiana[01:14:18] *** drajen has quit IRC[01:14:29] *** LabMan_ has quit IRC[01:36:36] *** DucBlangis has joined #openindiana[01:38:36] <ball> hello DucBlangis[01:40:43] *** LabMan has joined #openindiana[01:41:44] *** russiane39 has joined #openindiana[01:44:54] *** Sachiru has joined #openindiana[01:49:33] *** davenz has joined #openindiana[01:55:49] *** LabMan has quit IRC[01:55:50] *** magyar has quit IRC[01:56:49] *** magyar has joined #openindiana[01:57:01] *** LabMan has joined #openindiana[01:57:08] *** LabMan has quit IRC[01:57:49] *** LabMan has joined #openindiana[02:09:43] *** smrt has quit IRC[02:10:01] *** smrt has joined #openindiana[02:13:06] *** DucBlangis has left #openindiana[02:24:37] *** Okona has quit IRC[02:39:17] *** dandyd449 has joined #openindiana[02:40:41] *** Okona has joined #openindiana[02:43:21] *** dandyd449 has quit IRC[02:53:08] *** Sachiru has quit IRC[02:59:37] *** ianj has quit IRC[03:06:57] *** Nemykal has quit IRC[03:08:46] *** Nemykal has joined #openindiana[03:10:58] *** jellydonut has quit IRC[03:14:06] *** CVLTCMK0 has joined #openindiana[03:31:56] *** ianj has joined #openindiana[03:31:58] *** ianj has left #openindiana[03:32:04] *** ianj has joined #openindiana[03:38:31] *** TomJ has joined #openindiana[03:39:23] *** jamesd has quit IRC[03:48:57] *** Kaishi has quit IRC[04:00:07] *** sanvisum|work has quit IRC[04:06:43] *** imaxs has quit IRC[04:28:39] *** Seony has quit IRC[04:33:28] *** POloser has joined #openindiana[04:40:54] *** SupremeOverlord1 has quit IRC[04:41:53] *** ivan\ has quit IRC[04:51:34] *** ivan\ has joined #openindiana[04:51:58] *** Kaishi has joined #openindiana[04:58:56] <ball> Is it practical to install OpenIndiana from a USB flash drive?[04:59:42] *** Seony has joined #openindiana[05:05:49] <Triskelios> sure, it's faster than doing it from CD...[05:08:17] *** TomJ has quit IRC[05:11:05] *** freakazoid0223 has joined #openindiana[05:15:03] *** Nemykal_ has joined #openindiana[05:17:17] *** Nemykal has quit IRC[05:30:31] *** jamesd has joined #openindiana[05:34:56] *** imaxs has joined #openindiana[05:38:28] <richlowe> except when it isn't.[05:41:45] *** Nemykal has joined #openindiana[05:43:43] *** Nemykal_ has quit IRC[05:49:18] *** Okona has quit IRC[05:49:21] *** Qkona has joined #openindiana[06:08:57] *** freakazoid0223 has quit IRC[06:11:51] *** BonzTM has quit IRC[06:14:10] *** xxzz has joined #openindiana[06:18:08] <ball> hello xxzz[06:18:31] <xxzz> hi ball[06:30:49] *** master_of_master has quit IRC[06:44:57] *** Bateau has quit IRC[06:46:08] <Kaishi> hey guys, does OI attempt to register with DNS by default?[06:46:24] <Kaishi> I'm getting a DHCP address but not DNS A or PTR records[06:54:31] *** jamesd_ has joined #openindiana[06:54:35] *** ball has quit IRC[06:55:37] *** dho__ is now known as dho[06:57:03] *** jamesd has quit IRC[06:59:47] *** jw_urodoc has joined #openindiana[07:00:59] *** Rame has joined #openindiana[07:04:10] <Triskelios> Kaishi: it will if the hostname is present in /etc/hostname.<interface>. see the REQUEST_HOSTNAME docs in the dhcpagent man page or /etc/default/dhcpagent[07:19:40] *** Seony has quit IRC[07:47:03] *** jamesd__ has joined #openindiana[07:47:07] <Kaishi> Triskelios: Would an aggr count as an interface in this case?[07:48:06] <Triskelios> yes[07:48:19] <Kaishi> so I've made a file in /etc with the name "hostname.aggr1" and the content is a single line, just the expected hostname[07:48:35] <Kaishi> is that correct?[07:49:13] *** jamesd_ has quit IRC[07:57:25] *** Neddie_ has joined #openindiana[07:58:47] *** davenz has joined #openindiana[08:01:05] *** Neddie has quit IRC[08:02:05] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[08:02:37] <Triskelios> no, see the references[08:04:16] *** dijenerate has joined #openindiana[08:07:26] <Kaishi> okay, so it should be "inet <hostname>" in that file[08:09:48] *** davenz has quit IRC[08:10:17] *** davenz has joined #openindiana[08:10:26] <Kaishi> oh crap[08:10:39] <Kaishi> well I upgraded the OS using the package manager, from A5 to A6[08:10:49] <Kaishi> and now my network connection is erroring out[08:11:30] *** sensille has left #openindiana[08:13:47] <Kaishi> could it be because of the addition of the /etc/hostname file that wasn't present before? I could delete it again[08:15:31] <Triskelios> you could check the logs in svcs -xv[08:16:35] <Kaishi> "Start method existed with $SMF_EXIT_ERR_CONFIG."[08:16:45] <Kaishi> for /network/physical:default[08:18:03] <Kaishi> and then in /var/svc/log/network-physical:default.log :[08:18:18] <Kaishi> configuring IPv4 interfaces:ifconfig: inet: bad address[08:18:25] <Kaishi> "aggr1."[08:20:13] <Triskelios> is your hostname mapped to ::1 or 127.0.0.1 in /etc/hosts?[08:20:29] <Kaishi> so I tried "ifconfig aggr1 dhcp" and got "unable to start /sbin/dhcpagent"[08:21:24] <Kaishi> Looks like it, yes[08:21:27] <Kaishi> Is that the issue?[08:21:47] <Triskelios> no, that should be fine[08:22:12] <Kaishi> ::1 <hostname> <hostname>.local localhost loghost[08:22:12] <Kaishi> 127.0.0.1 <hostname> <hostname>.local localhost loghost[08:22:35] <Triskelios> does dhcp.aggr1 exist?[08:22:46] <Kaishi> would that be in /etc ?[08:23:01] <Triskelios> yes. or did you previously use ipadm to configure it?[08:23:38] <Kaishi> dhcp.aggr1 does not exist[08:23:42] <Kaishi> and I think I used ipadm[08:24:49] <Triskelios> okay, try just touch /etc/dhcp.aggr1[08:24:59] <Triskelios> then clear network/physical:default[08:25:48] <Kaishi> okay, did both of those[08:27:25] <Triskelios> does it work now?[08:27:40] *** ball has joined #openindiana[08:28:30] <Kaishi> svcs -xv looks the same as before, should that have changed?[08:29:17] <Kaishi> I could try rebooting it since we made minor changes[08:30:31] <Triskelios> it's failing for the same reason?[08:30:43] <Kaishi> yes[08:31:01] * ball downloads 151a6[08:31:02] <Kaishi> does "clear network/physical:default" attempt to restart the service and all dependent services?[08:31:39] <ball> Oh, apparently I don't.[08:31:58] <ball> OpenIndiana.org appears to have 151a5[08:32:23] *** andy_js has joined #openindiana[08:33:24] <Kaishi> rebooting it may have helped, I didn't see an error at boot, but that doesn't mean anything necessarily[08:33:54] <Triskelios> Kaishi: I meant svcadm clear, not literally "clear"[08:34:14] *** smrt has quit IRC[08:34:32] *** smrt has joined #openindiana[08:34:40] <Kaishi> <_< sorry, I admit that I'm still learning.[08:34:54] <Kaishi> okay, the reboot seems to have helped.[08:34:59] *** Seony has joined #openindiana[08:35:03] <Kaishi> after making those little changes[08:35:17] <Kaishi> Oh! And now we have A record[08:35:20] <Kaishi> let's check for the PTR[08:35:47] <Kaishi> yep! we have A and PTR records[08:35:49] <Kaishi> hooray[08:35:55] <ball> Ah, is this the difference between "development build" and "development release"?[08:36:45] <Kaishi> huh, interesting ZFS status:[08:37:05] <Kaishi> some supported features are not enabled on the pool. the pool can still be used but some features are unavailable.[08:37:13] <Kaishi> enable features using "zpool upgrade"[08:37:28] <Kaishi> did something change between A5 and A6?[08:38:04] <oninoshiko> yep[08:38:22] <oninoshiko> the ondisk format of the pool changed.[08:38:29] <Kaishi> uh oh[08:38:36] <oninoshiko> why uh oh?[08:38:46] <Kaishi> that sounds like a lot of bits could need to be changed[08:38:49] <ball> If I install onto a single disk, can I later add another disk of the same size and turn the existing install into a mirrored pair?[08:38:59] <oninoshiko> ball: yes.[08:39:37] <ball> oninoshiko: Thanks![08:39:51] <oninoshiko> Kaishi not really, it's just some metadata. the only reason it's a concern at all, is that once you upgrade the pool you can't go back to the privious release[08:40:09] <Kaishi> okay, my pools are missing "empty_bpobj"[08:40:10] <oninoshiko> ball: See: zpool attach[08:41:13] * oninoshiko is not smart enough to really know what that truely means. I thought the only change was the move to feature-flags.[08:41:43] <oninoshiko> I wonder what the logic behind pkg_publish is...[08:41:49] <Kaishi> my pools were already running feature-flags[08:41:55] <Kaishi> I upgraded them both though[08:42:01] <Kaishi> so they aren't tossing that warning anymore[08:42:38] <oninoshiko> I normally upgrade in short order. Once I'm sure I wont have to go back[08:42:51] <Kaishi> yeah[08:42:55] <Kaishi> I"m not rolling anything back[08:43:02] <Kaishi> how do I clean up my old boot entries?[08:43:29] <oninoshiko> bootadm? that's from memory. In my defence, I have a bad habit of not doing that enough[08:43:43] <oninoshiko> or is it beadm?[08:43:47] <oninoshiko> beadm I think[08:44:26] <Kaishi> so just destroy the very old ones?[08:44:31] <ball> Where (if anywhere) should I look for a .torrent for the 151a6 (or a5) of the Server CD?[08:44:51] *** xxzz has quit IRC[08:47:11] <oninoshiko> there is no disk for a6, it's just a minor bugfix[08:47:33] <oninoshiko> I don't know of a torrent of a5, or I would have put it on the web site[08:47:47] <oninoshiko> I really shold go and add the info about a6[08:48:30] <Kaishi> okay, gonna sleep now, thanks for your help guys! :)[08:49:23] <oninoshiko> mee too soon[08:49:37] *** Bdragon has quit IRC[08:55:50] *** Bdragon has joined #openindiana[08:55:52] <ball> oninoshiko: Thanks. I'm downloading 151a5 straight from the link on the OpenIndiana website.[08:57:33] <oninoshiko> ball: if you really want to, you could see if there was interest in you seeding it.[08:58:19] <oninoshiko> I think the only reason it doesn't exist is noone has taken inititive.[08:58:59] <oninoshiko> YAY! I figured out set-publisher![08:59:40] *** Webhostbudd has quit IRC[09:00:03] *** Webhostbudd has joined #openindiana[09:00:22] <oninoshiko> I even modified it to work without all the python versions of everything, ane pkg_publish. one more tweak to accept the transform ont he commandline, and this is super-useful to me.[09:01:04] *** Webhostbudd_ has joined #openindiana[09:01:33] <oninoshiko> anyway. it too late, and i need to work in the morning... nighties[09:01:55] <ball> oninoshiko: Bittorrent seems like an efficient way to distribute .iso images (even small ones like the server CD). It never occurred to me that there might not be one for oi-dev-151a5-text-x86.iso. If I can help you make one, or share it, I happily will.[09:03:06] *** Webhostbudd__ has joined #openindiana[09:03:13] *** anikin has joined #openindiana[09:03:36] <oninoshiko> if someone tosses it up, I'll seed from home.[09:04:24] <oninoshiko> DSL is nothing to write home about, but if we can get a few people on even home broadband, it should help[09:04:44] *** Webhostbudd has quit IRC[09:04:49] *** Qkona has left #openindiana[09:05:36] *** Webhostbudd_ has quit IRC[09:08:41] *** Webhostbudd has joined #openindiana[09:10:48] *** Webhostbudd__ has quit IRC[09:12:58] *** Webhostbudd has quit IRC[09:13:06] *** tsoome has quit IRC[09:16:41] *** Micr0mega has joined #openindiana[09:17:44] *** |AbsyntH| has joined #openindiana[09:21:25] *** jamesd__ has quit IRC[09:28:46] <ball> I'm exhausted. I'm going to bed now and I'll try this installation disc later today.[09:39:23] *** drajen has joined #openindiana[09:41:01] *** tsoome has joined #openindiana[09:41:01] *** tsoome has quit IRC[09:41:19] *** tsoome has joined #openindiana[09:42:57] <ball> Goodnight everyone.[09:43:08] *** ball has quit IRC[09:46:55] *** Whoopsie has joined #openindiana[09:46:55] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Whoopsie[09:48:14] *** anikin has quit IRC[10:06:46] *** anikin has joined #openindiana[10:16:59] *** r4idenZA has joined #openindiana[10:20:23] *** anikin has quit IRC[10:22:27] *** anikin has joined #openindiana[10:29:18] *** InTheWings has joined #openindiana[10:32:07] *** MDGrein has quit IRC[10:36:05] *** drajen has quit IRC[10:36:15] *** rfc2474 has joined #openindiana[10:38:13] *** MDGrein has joined #openindiana[10:48:29] *** Whoopsie has quit IRC[10:52:46] *** alanc has joined #openindiana[10:52:46] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o alanc[10:55:46] *** drajen has joined #openindiana[10:58:26] *** imaxs has quit IRC[11:00:57] *** Whoopsie has joined #openindiana[11:00:57] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Whoopsie[11:05:39] *** _dumfrie- has joined #openindiana[11:14:29] *** KermitTheFragger has joined #openindiana[11:19:42] *** esbjerg has joined #openindiana[11:19:58] *** xenol_ has joined #openindiana[11:21:23] *** held has joined #openindiana[11:21:26] *** idnaria has joined #openindiana[11:22:32] *** esbjerg_ has quit IRC[11:22:32] *** xenol has quit IRC[11:22:33] *** heldchen has quit IRC[11:22:33] *** mustang has quit IRC[11:22:33] *** idnar has quit IRC[11:22:35] *** tomocha6 has quit IRC[12:13:53] *** master_of_master has joined #openindiana[12:18:57] *** POloser has left #openindiana[12:19:29] *** POloser has joined #openindiana[12:32:43] *** Woodstock has quit IRC[12:32:53] *** Woodstock has joined #openindiana[12:56:56] *** anikin has quit IRC[13:07:58] *** jellydonut has joined #openindiana[13:18:12] *** tomocha6 has joined #openindiana[13:23:22] <dizko> oninoshiko: I can seed at 100mbps if you need someone with a good uplink[13:29:41] <dizko> also, is this the meaning of your nick? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ac/YokozunaJmills74.jpg[13:52:16] *** Nemykal has quit IRC[13:54:40] *** Nemykal has joined #openindiana[13:58:54] *** Nemykal has quit IRC[13:59:07] *** anikin has joined #openindiana[13:59:50] *** Nemykal has joined #openindiana[14:06:23] *** IRConan has quit IRC[14:06:32] *** IRConan has joined #openindiana[14:07:52] *** Nemykal_ has joined #openindiana[14:08:42] *** dandy has joined #openindiana[14:09:24] *** Nemykal has quit IRC[14:09:44] <dandy> could someone tell me why i seem to be missing a drives worth of space from my raidz1 array when i create it?[14:10:08] <haj> because it's raidz1[14:10:23] <dandy> zpool shows all 8 drives in the pool but only 15.9 TB where it should be 19.1[14:10:42] <JT-EC> how big are the drives?[14:10:46] <dandy> 3TB[14:11:24] <JT-EC> Make sure you're seeing them as 3TB and not 2TB[14:11:56] <tsoome> pastebin zpool status?[14:12:12] <haj> dandy: one drive is used for redundancy.[14:12:30] <dandy> yea i know haj, n-1 so it should be 21TB[14:12:31] *** POloser has left #openindiana[14:12:45] <haj> uhm .. ok, I misunderstod.. :)[14:13:17] <dandy> all good[14:13:35] <dandy> JT what would cause them to show up as 2TB drives?[14:13:38] <tsoome> wanna see how its made, not if its good;)[14:15:27] <dandy> zpool create storage0 raidz1[14:15:33] <dandy> is how i create the pool[14:15:41] <JT-EC> dandy: Can you do the pastebin as tsoome asked please. And pastebin iostat -En after that.[14:17:42] *** TomJ has joined #openindiana[14:17:42] *** TomJ has quit IRC[14:17:43] *** TomJ has joined #openindiana[14:20:16] <dandy> http://pastebin.com/mrhzD2mx[14:20:20] <dandy> sorry bout that[14:20:21] *** Micr0mega has quit IRC[14:21:19] <dandy> 2199GB cant be right...[14:22:34] *** Micr0mega has joined #openindiana[14:22:51] *** Seony has quit IRC[14:24:32] <dandy> on p20 firmware on my controller[14:24:41] <dandy> when supports 3TB[14:24:44] <dandy> which[14:25:39] <tsoome> what is output of ls -l /dev/dsk/c5t15d0 ?[14:28:01] *** xenol_ has quit IRC[14:29:01] <dandy> pastebin.com/wQ5AeQsh[14:29:10] *** davenz has quit IRC[14:29:33] *** davenz has joined #openindiana[14:29:38] <tsoome> hm, sd driver[14:31:52] <scarcry> started a scrub on a 3-disk raidz (2TB hitachi deathstars), already noticed early on a significant drop in scrub speed and now zpool status is showing repairing for 1 disk. iostat -En c3t2d0 already has 10465 Hard Errors and steadily increasing :( looks like the disk might be dying[14:33:05] <tsoome> dmesg?[14:33:24] *** xenol has joined #openindiana[14:33:30] <scarcry> Sep 18 14:33:09 tron ahci: [ID 693748 kern.warning] WARNING: ahci0: ahci port 2 task_file_status = 0x4051[14:33:42] <tsoome> dandy: its seems that your hba does not play well with extra 1TB....[14:33:43] <scarcry> and Sep 18 14:33:09 tron ahci: [ID 687168 kern.warning] WARNING: ahci0: ahci port 2 is trying to do error recovery[14:34:38] <dandy> yea i was just thinking the same thing[14:34:54] <tsoome> its vm i understand?[14:34:59] <dandy> yes[14:35:25] <tsoome> different HBA options maybe?[14:35:33] *** CVLTCMK0 has quit IRC[14:35:57] <dandy> suggestions on a cheep HBA?[14:36:20] <dandy> currently an ibm br10i[14:37:03] <dandy> hmm gonna try one more thing, seems my vm is set to other 32bit...[14:37:10] <dandy> gonna try other 64bit[14:38:14] <dandy> sorry solaris 11 64bit, seems it got a lil weird when i upgraded somewhere.[14:39:03] *** held has quit IRC[14:42:55] <dandy> yup... still 2.2[14:43:01] *** davenz has quit IRC[14:49:27] *** davenz has joined #openindiana[14:49:52] *** heldchen has joined #openindiana[14:51:35] *** xenol has quit IRC[14:51:43] *** xenol has joined #openindiana[14:52:54] *** davenz has quit IRC[14:56:14] *** TomJ has quit IRC[14:57:45] *** TomJ has joined #openindiana[14:57:46] *** TomJ has quit IRC[14:57:46] *** TomJ has joined #openindiana[15:17:49] *** Kaishi has quit IRC[15:23:34] *** riccardo has joined #openindiana[15:24:53] <tsoome> dandy: did you check with isainfo command btw?[15:24:58] *** Sachiru has joined #openindiana[15:36:51] *** ball has joined #openindiana[15:37:21] <ball> The text-based installer seems quite civilised.[15:37:41] <ball> Didn't seem to have an option for static IP configuration though.[15:38:52] *** freakazoid0223 has joined #openindiana[15:46:14] <lblume> Is that the S11 one or is OI's different now?[15:52:15] <tsoome> s11 text mode install does have static IP config for sure[15:54:19] <lblume> Yup, that's why I wondered. S11's text installer is a really decent installer if the year is 1993. Beats Windows 3.1 installer hands down. :-D[15:55:58] <JT-EC> No need to change floppy disks every few minutes.[15:56:23] <tsoome> use hands free install if you hate propmpts[15:56:30] <tsoome> prompts*[15:58:17] <lblume> I'm not sure I would, actually. I gave it a try on HP hardware, and well, yes, it did the job mostly well, except that the NIC choice is really messy. I'd expect it to be smart enough to default to one that actually has a network connection. I wonder how would that go on a promptless install.[15:59:17] <tsoome> thats what you get from HP hardware[15:59:22] <lblume> No.[15:59:37] <lblume> I have bnx0, bnx1, bnx2. That does match physical hardware.[16:00:21] <lblume> But installer chose to name them net2, net0, net1, in that order. I can't blame that on the hardware :-P[16:00:55] <lblume> So, erm, bit difficult to know which is which at install time...[16:01:16] <tsoome> i havent seen messed up aliases myself, but I guess im just lucky[16:01:50] *** shem has quit IRC[16:02:15] *** shem has joined #openindiana[16:03:09] <lblume> Probably. I really don't get it. the install went smoothly and all. I think it could show which physical interfaces are connected if it tried a little.[16:04:18] <lblume> I'm also wondering why there's no way to have IPv6 completely disabled for interfaces other than lo0, but that seems to be an issue with the new interface[16:06:51] <tsoome> disabling IPv6 goes really well with recent news about ipv4 space running out:P[16:07:48] *** TomJ has quit IRC[16:07:52] <patdk-wk> tsoome, only europe[16:08:25] <lblume> tsoome: Yeah, yeah, the sky is falling, IPv4 addresses are running out, omg what are we going to do, yadda, yadda.[16:08:28] <tsoome> i do live in eu, why should I care about the rest?:P[16:08:38] *** TomJ has joined #openindiana[16:08:38] *** TomJ has quit IRC[16:08:38] *** TomJ has joined #openindiana[16:08:54] <lblume> Fact is, we don't want it and I'm starting to doubt it'll ever be needed in corporations networks.[16:09:36] <tsoome> need is relative term. strictly speaking we dont need network not computers[16:09:40] <tsoome> nor*[16:10:18] <tsoome> but then we would miss this nice chance to have this conversation;)[16:10:28] <Woodstock> tsoome: millions would starve without it :->[16:10:39] <lblume> Heh. Not really. Just name me a corporation that needs to have all of its nodes with individual public addresses.[16:10:41] <tsoome> they do already[16:10:47] <tsoome> literally[16:10:49] <tsoome> :D[16:10:59] <ball> Sorry, was watching the other screen. This is whatever text installer OpenIndiana uses[16:11:10] <lblume> Have you ever worked in a place where more than a handful of systems needed a publicly addressable IP?[16:11:16] *** movement has quit IRC[16:11:24] <tsoome> me?[16:11:32] <lblume> You, or anybody else.[16:11:56] <tsoome> this company im working for is telco with hosting services:D[16:12:11] <lennard> lblume: theres this big US ISP that doesn't have enough ipv4 to manage all its CPEs[16:12:15] <tsoome> so yea, there are a bit more than handful addresses[16:12:17] <lblume> Actually, most places I've worked were happily using IP addresses internally that are assigned to other continents.[16:12:49] <lblume> lennard: CPEs?[16:12:57] <lennard> customer premises equipment[16:12:58] <lennard> 'modem'[16:13:47] <lblume> Ok, but that's ISP stuff. I do agree it somewhat makes sense for end-user internet access.[16:14:23] <lennard> oh no, this is not the addresses handed out to the customers, its the private ranges used to reprogram the modems :P[16:14:32] <lblume> But I've worked at a place that had a full class B and several class C (assigned at a time when they were actually class B and C), and using, at *most*, 10 of them.[16:14:34] *** jim80net has joined #openindiana[16:14:36] <lennard> I want to say comcast, but I'm not remotely sure about that[16:15:04] <patdk-wk> comcast has overflowed 10.x for modems[16:15:09] <lblume> lennard: I don't get it? Internal ,and 10/8 is not enough?[16:15:15] <lennard> exactly[16:15:21] <lennard> its not - too many customers :)[16:15:56] <lblume> Neat, but that's still end-user equipment, though yeah, it won't be managed by end-users themselves :-)[16:16:13] <ball> Okay, I have a login prompt![16:16:16] <patdk-wk> hmm, I manage mine[16:16:22] <lennard> I'm with you on most corporations not really *needing* ipv6 though[16:16:40] * patdk-wk needs ipv6[16:16:43] <patdk-wk> dod says so[16:16:59] <tsoome> literally needing - no, but to share knowledge about technology - they do[16:17:05] <lennard> however I'm convinced that with time, it wont make any sense to use v4 any more, since the rest of the internet is mainly v6 :)[16:17:25] <tsoome> altho, at modern days, its not about how smart you are but rather how dumb….[16:18:09] <lennard> I'm equally convinced that, weirdly, for the forseeable future most network equipment, including those doing lots of v6 routing, will be managed on v4 :P[16:20:08] <tsoome> v4 wont just disappear overnight[16:21:28] <patdk-wk> everything I have is ipv6 enabled[16:21:37] <lblume> Yeah, it's mostly those "End of IPv4 days" repeating every year that annoy me. I'm pretty sure some people use that to sell IP ranges at higher prices, too.[16:21:56] <lennard> I occasionally make an effort to convert some of my stuff[16:22:17] <lennard> my main workstation at home has been in a mostly v6-only state, even[16:22:46] *** jamesd has joined #openindiana[16:22:47] <patdk-wk> ya, while all my setup is setup for ipv6, I need to get around to entering them into dns, so they are actually managed that way[16:22:53] <patdk-wk> currently still type the ipv4 address :)[16:23:01] <lblume> I did IPv6 at home about 10 yers ago, but now, I don't have a home router that supports it, so there.[16:23:29] <patdk-wk> s/home router/oi/[16:23:30] <tsoome> well, despite this company here is telco, and despite the warnings over years, here is still *0* activity about creating IPv6 support.[16:23:57] <patdk-wk> all my upstreams support ipv6[16:24:21] <lennard> the local IX still is being silly about merging their v4 and v6 lans[16:24:26] *** movement has joined #openindiana[16:24:29] <lennard> (peering lans, that is)[16:25:08] <lennard> so some customers don't participate on the v6 lan because connecting to two lans is too cumbersome[16:25:13] <lblume> patdk-wk: I was using S8 at the time. But nah, OI or actually any OS would be just too annoying now to set up. I've toyed with the idea of replacing the OS of the router by an embedded Linux, though[16:25:43] <patdk-wk> I just don't like *routers* too slow[16:26:05] <lblume> It's home stuff, I don't have 100MBps there yet :-)[16:26:08] <patdk-wk> hmm, I guess I could use the 3845 on the shelf[16:26:17] <lennard> I'd just use mikrotiks for home stuff whereever possible, I think[16:26:24] <lennard> they are great little machines :)[16:26:40] <lennard> a little on the slow side sometimes, but as lblume said that often doesn't matter for home use[16:26:52] <patdk-wk> well, I'm using a low power computer, then I setup torrent on it using a nfs share from oi[16:27:09] <patdk-wk> but it also manages my printers and stuff, so the wife is happy on the ipad[16:27:37] <lblume> Bah, I just got a networked printer.[16:27:56] <patdk-wk> but does it support ipp + avahi for ipad support?[16:28:03] <patdk-wk> I find the ones that do are crap printers[16:28:23] <patdk-wk> and yes, my printer is network, but doesn't help still for ipad's[16:29:03] <patdk-wk> I really want to drop network printer support though[16:29:11] <patdk-wk> and let the server poweroff the printer[16:29:21] <patdk-wk> that would save a crapload of power, not wasting it on the printer[16:29:24] <lblume> Yup, it does ipp, setting it up with it in Ubuntu was a breeze. 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How do i tell openindiana to mount the other zfs pool on boot time?[19:05:29] <richlowe> if the pool is imported, that will always happen.[19:09:37] *** merzo has quit IRC[19:09:49] <tsoome> if the pool is imported when you boot your system, such pools will be imported on boot automatically[19:09:51] <paraqles> it is imported and it is not happen[19:10:40] <paraqles> at first i thought it was a problem of the zpool version. But after an upgrade there is no change[19:10:46] <Triskelios> the mount will fail if the mountpoints are not empty[19:11:31] <Triskelios> try a zfs mount -a and check for errors[19:12:16] <tsoome> thats also the reason why you don't wanna do nested mounts[19:12:21] <paraqles> in single user boot mode, i can mount all, but i have to do this myself[19:12:33] <tsoome> mount or import?[19:12:44] <paraqles> mount[19:13:06] <Triskelios> paraqles: with zfs mount -a?[19:13:08] <tsoome> that means your pools are imported, but for some reason the datasets dont get mounted[19:13:34] <paraqles> ok maybe found a part of the issue[19:13:45] <paraqles> i tried to mount the other pool to /home[19:14:09] <paraqles> now i mount it under a different point and set the users homes to this point.[19:14:13] <paraqles> and now it works[19:14:16] <tsoome> the /home is special, you do know that?[19:14:16] <RoyK> paraqles: do you have several pools, and if so, why?[19:14:35] <RoyK> /home is usually used by automount[19:14:45] <paraqles> ah ok[19:14:54] *** SupremeOverlord has quit IRC[19:14:58] <paraqles> i have several pools, one for os and one for data[19:15:00] <tsoome> set /etc/auto_master properly[19:15:48] <RoyK> 2 != several ;)[19:15:49] <tsoome> if your mountpoints are properly set, check "zfs get canmount"[19:16:16] <Triskelios> /export/home/* will be mounted under /home if autofs is enabled, so the actual filesystems are usually under /export/home[19:17:05] <RoyK> probably a good idea to move that to your data pool[19:17:58] *** KermitTheFragger has quit IRC[19:18:13] <tsoome> if you really wanna /home to get mounted from disk, fix the /etc/auto_master[19:18:54] <tsoome> you can disable autofs as well, but if it will get enabled, the auto_master setting will screw things up again[19:18:57] <paraqles> i think i stick to the way oi is intended and set the auto_home to mount the home dirs from the data pool[19:23:09] <paraqles> i haven't found any information about auto_mount[19:23:24] <paraqles> maybe it should have a word in the wiki[19:25:32] <tsoome> man automount[19:26:08] <paraqles> i haven't any clue about automount existing[19:26:20] <paraqles> i'm relative new to oi[19:27:16] <tsoome> it has been around from 1988[19:27:19] <tsoome> … ;)[19:28:07] *** TomJ has quit IRC[19:28:31] <tsoome> well, according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automounter at least:D[19:31:48] <paraqles> yes, and that is the first time i see a system automount the home dirs[19:32:26] <tsoome> its relic;)[19:35:31] *** SupremeOverlord has joined #openindiana[19:40:39] *** imaxs has joined #openindiana[20:02:07] *** JT-EC has quit IRC[20:11:17] *** JT-EC has joined #openindiana[20:11:23] *** JT-EC has quit IRC[20:13:43] *** slx86 has joined #openindiana[20:14:46] <Uranio> the link in the subject http://openindiana.org/ is conection refused[20:16:18] *** JT-EC has joined #openindiana[20:16:51] *** JT-EC has quit IRC[20:19:19] *** paraqles has quit IRC[20:25:24] <patdk-wk> load fine here (after 3 attempts)[20:30:22] *** JT-EC has joined #openindiana[20:32:17] <richlowe> Meths just kicked a load balancer or something.[20:33:23] *** JT-EC has quit IRC[20:43:13] *** Seony has joined #openindiana[20:44:08] *** JT-EC has joined #openindiana[20:51:22] *** TomJ has joined #openindiana[21:02:20] *** PMT__ has quit IRC[21:02:27] <Uranio> now is running very fine again[21:02:57] *** PMT has joined #openindiana[21:11:16] *** PMT_ has joined #openindiana[21:11:17] *** PMT has quit IRC[21:15:32] <Uranio> the blastwave project still alive?[21:23:08] *** Seony has quit IRC[21:24:48] *** InTheWings has quit IRC[21:27:07] *** InTheWings has joined #openindiana[21:28:39] *** idnaria is now known as idnar[21:33:14] *** ball has quit IRC[21:57:36] *** andy_js has quit IRC[22:01:43] *** slx86 has quit IRC[22:05:04] *** Uranio has quit IRC[22:14:28] *** heldchen has quit IRC[22:20:36] *** andy_js has joined #openindiana[22:23:22] *** andy_js has quit IRC[22:27:29] *** bixu has joined #openindiana[22:32:14] *** heldchen has joined #openindiana[22:40:36] *** Seony has joined #openindiana[22:53:56] *** gwr has joined #openindiana[22:55:41] *** patdk-lap has quit IRC[23:00:18] *** DocHolliday has joined #openindiana[23:04:25] *** bixu has quit IRC[23:07:04] *** ancoron_ has joined #openindiana[23:08:36] *** DocHolliday has quit IRC[23:08:43] *** patdk-lap has joined #openindiana[23:11:01] *** ancoron has quit IRC[23:16:33] *** Hedonisto has quit IRC[23:26:58] *** BonzTM has joined #openindiana[23:30:33] *** smrt has quit IRC[23:30:51] *** smrt has joined #openindiana[23:43:53] *** InTheWings has quit IRC[23:48:48] *** enricop has joined #openindiana[23:52:58] *** Seony has quit IRC