September 15, 2012 
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September 15, 2012 [00:00:01] *** sjorge has quit IRC[00:01:47] *** sergefonville has left #openindiana[00:05:37] *** sjorge has joined #openindiana[00:05:38] *** sjorge has joined #openindiana[00:10:54] *** merzo has quit IRC[00:11:20] *** Seony has quit IRC[00:11:35] *** Hedonisto has quit IRC[00:15:32] *** doug_ndndn has quit IRC[00:16:59] *** break19 has quit IRC[00:17:02] *** doug_ndndn has joined #openindiana[00:17:10] *** break19 has joined #openindiana[00:17:46] *** merzo has joined #openindiana[00:25:54] *** dandyd449 has quit IRC[00:28:13] *** sjorge has quit IRC[00:29:03] *** Seony has joined #openindiana[00:35:02] *** Hedonisto has joined #openindiana[00:40:55] *** jim80net has quit IRC[00:41:48] *** sjorge has joined #openindiana[00:41:49] *** sjorge has joined #openindiana[00:45:23] *** sebsta has joined #openindiana[00:54:09] *** sjorge has quit IRC[00:57:40] *** melik has quit IRC[00:58:41] *** sebsta has quit IRC[00:59:22] *** CVLTCMK0 has joined #openindiana[01:03:42] *** DocHolliday has quit IRC[01:07:33] *** dandyd449 has joined #openindiana[01:07:54] *** tsukasa has quit IRC[01:08:51] *** Webhostbudd has joined #openindiana[01:20:00] *** Hedonisto has quit IRC[01:22:54] *** Hedonisto has joined #openindiana[01:24:39] *** InTheWings has quit IRC[01:27:47] <Uranio> no yet Common Desktop Enviroment in OI?[01:28:33] *** ball has joined #openindiana[01:37:04] *** jellydonut has quit IRC[01:37:09] *** gwr has quit IRC[01:45:00] *** tsukasa has joined #openindiana[01:45:01] *** tsukasa has joined #openindiana[01:47:16] <oninoshiko> Uranio: noone WANTs CDE[01:47:36] <Uranio> :([01:47:51] <Uranio> yes I :-/[01:48:04] <Uranio> it is Sun history[01:48:26] <oninoshiko> well, then get packaging![01:49:13] <ball> OpenLook ftw.[01:49:25] <Uranio> have CDE in OI should be like "these was the old time"[01:49:30] <Uranio> a symbol[01:49:52] * Uranio don't get the correct word[01:50:26] <ball> Uranio: What would be the purpose?[01:50:48] <Uranio> RELIC woul be the word[01:50:57] <Uranio> like relic memorie[01:51:04] <Uranio> it is very unix look like[01:51:35] <Uranio> Solaris without CDE is a like beach without sand[01:51:45] <SWAG565> lol[01:51:46] <Uranio> nobody will eat the sand, but it must be in there[01:52:02] <Uranio> well forgot it, I just like the old fashion[01:52:08] <ball> OpenIndiana is not Solaris[01:52:37] <ball> Uranio: Should OpenIndiana include suntools?[01:52:44] <oninoshiko> if someone wants to maintain the package, more power to them, but frankly, I dont think anyone cares about it.[01:53:19] <oninoshiko> s/cares/cares enough to work on it/[01:53:26] <Uranio> ball: is not solaris, but is "the solaris's memories[01:53:31] <Uranio> oninoshiko: could I?[01:54:07] <oninoshiko> I suppose. make up a package, request initgrateion.[01:54:59] <Uranio> oninoshiko: where is the guide for make up a package?[01:55:03] <Uranio> in the wiki?[01:55:52] <ball> I do think we need Freecell though. ;-)[01:56:04] <Uranio> xD[01:56:13] <oninoshiko> generally, I wish. I'm working on getting an easier process.[01:57:02] <Uranio> last time I overview hot to make the package was like a satanic ritual[01:57:12] <Uranio> just debian is more hard[01:57:24] <Uranio> s/hot/how/[01:58:08] <oninoshiko> I think thre maybe some voodoo still. I am trying to setup a simplified self-service package build system (like source jucier used to be)[01:58:33] *** BonzTM has joined #openindiana[01:58:40] <Uranio> anyway, I'll compile it and if could get some Old disk for take the Xorg, I could run FINALLY sun in my laptop[01:58:45] <oninoshiko> I'd start with makeing sure I had it building and working.[01:58:53] * Uranio have a 64M ram's latop[01:59:08] <SWAG565> lol[01:59:21] <Uranio> oninoshiko: not visual please, command line only[02:00:01] <Uranio> SWAG565: imagine it! old X11 with new CDE. The whole old fashion toy[02:00:17] <ball> Uranio: Have you considered running it on a server somewhere and using the laptop as a terminal to connect to it?[02:00:51] <Uranio> ball: is my huose's laptop. I have not a sever at my house[02:01:10] <oninoshiko> a web interface makes this easier. If you don't like it, don't use it.[02:01:19] <SWAG565> so you laptop only has 64mb of ram...?[02:01:49] <ball> Uranio: Do you have access to a server elsewhere?[02:01:54] <Uranio> oninoshiko: cool! I was imagining the application with a Qtech interface[02:02:01] <Uranio> web interface would be perfect[02:02:46] <oninoshiko> I've been working with the Jenkins guys to get there OI package installing on OI again.[02:02:53] <Uranio> at my work...[02:02:57] <oninoshiko> anyway, It's dinner-time[02:03:04] <oninoshiko> I'll be back later[02:03:15] <Uranio> ball: let me show you from where I'm[02:03:21] *** Uranio has left #openindiana[02:03:24] *** Uranio has joined #openindiana[02:04:37] <Uranio> ball: so?[02:06:40] <ball> Uranio: I do not understand the question.[02:07:03] <Uranio> ok.. forgot it please[02:11:05] *** sebsta has joined #openindiana[02:14:06] <ball> brb, phone[02:17:38] *** Uranio has left #openindiana[02:28:48] <ball> I hope that wasn't too mean. It wasn't meant to be.[02:30:05] *** sebsta has quit IRC[02:48:44] * oninoshiko feels less hungry[02:50:21] *** Bdragon has quit IRC[02:51:46] <oninoshiko> ball: what do you think was mean?[02:53:08] <ball> I thought Uranio might get a better user experience if he ran OpenIndiana on more robust hardware (off-site, if need be) and then connected in to that. I was very pleased with how well VNC worked on OpenIndiana[02:56:45] <oninoshiko> That's a suggestion, that's not mean.[02:56:52] <ball> Oh good.[02:58:29] <oninoshiko> even if the suggestion may not be viable, it's hardly mean... now, if you had started the suggestion with "you idiot" that would have been mean![02:58:59] * ball grins[02:59:12] <ball> I'm at work. I've heard enough of that today.[03:02:40] <oninoshiko> I'm usually the one yelling at work.[03:02:58] <oninoshiko> most-everyone usually ignores me.[03:03:19] <SWAG565> lol yelling[03:03:33] <ball> Thankfully most of that was not directed at me today. Not much point, I'm working my final week.[03:04:03] <oninoshiko> oh? something better lined up?[03:04:55] <ball> Something different lined up. I won't know whether or not it's better until I've been there a year.[03:05:06] <ball> (okay, I may get some clues after a month or two ;-)[03:05:11] <oninoshiko> ball: that's probibly true[03:05:24] <oninoshiko> well, good look though![03:05:33] <ball> Thanks[03:05:53] <ball> Speaking of which, it's time to try the Web browser I just compiled.[03:17:57] *** ira has quit IRC[03:20:17] *** ira has joined #openindiana[03:21:08] <ball> Hey, it works![03:23:06] *** ira has quit IRC[03:23:24] <oninoshiko> sweet![03:23:29] <oninoshiko> what browser?[03:23:43] <patdk-lap> gopher browser :)[03:23:44] *** ira has joined #openindiana[03:24:41] <oninoshiko> the world would be a better place with a bit more veronica[03:24:42] *** Seony has quit IRC[03:24:56] * oninoshiko sighs[03:25:17] <oninoshiko> you know, there are days when I'm fairly sure linux exists solely to piss me off[03:25:39] <patdk-lap> and those says are feb 29th?[03:26:12] <oninoshiko> Sept 14 is looking like one at the moment[03:27:09] <ball> What is it doing (or not doing)?[03:29:32] <oninoshiko> not showing the lun I didn't set a view up on -_- (it's my screwup)[03:29:54] <ball> PEBKAC?[03:30:15] <oninoshiko> but it would be nice if rescanning the scsi bus wasn't an exersize in bad UI[03:33:12] <oninoshiko> it may have been error ID-10T[03:33:56] <ball> That reminds me, I need to order a new SCSI cable.[03:34:22] *** sebsta has joined #openindiana[03:34:24] <oninoshiko> ball: so is that an updated FF?[03:35:20] <ball> oninoshiko: Firefox? It's 13.0, calls itself "Nightly" because it was built from source.[03:36:32] <oninoshiko> And I thought it was just chilverous![03:38:15] <ball> ?[03:38:53] <oninoshiko> nightly/knightly[03:38:59] *** Seony has joined #openindiana[03:39:10] <oninoshiko> sorry, bad pun[03:39:11] <ball> Oh, I see.[03:40:05] <SWAG565> noob question #2, how do i set new root password on desktop version? wont let me do login root[03:40:11] <oninoshiko> did you have to jump through any hoops to get it to build, or did it just work?[03:41:41] <oninoshiko> SWAG565: do you have root set as a role? I don't know if we still do that, but if so you would have to change it to a a real account[03:42:37] <Aethrs> It's by default a role.[03:42:44] <oninoshiko> personally, I don't like root logins. I would much rather log into a user account, and elevate privilages.[03:43:00] <Aethrs> For simplicity I needed to use a root rsync login.[03:43:12] <patdk-lap> heh, that gets fun when your rpool is messed up and won't mount /home/*user* :)[03:43:27] <patdk-lap> got locked out that way[03:43:36] <patdk-lap> aethrs, this is why they greated rsyncd :)[03:43:41] <patdk-lap> they[03:43:54] <oninoshiko> created*[03:43:57] <Aethrs> patdk- I'm absolutely positive there are more "proper" solutions..But none quicker. :)[03:44:06] <patdk-lap> ya, I knew something was messed up[03:44:10] <patdk-lap> :)[03:44:17] <Aethrs> patdk- Hey, my Linux can't see my Infiniband storage..Do you have linux map stuff over ib ?[03:44:25] <patdk-lap> aethrs, sudo :)[03:44:38] <patdk-lap> aethrs, yep[03:44:39] <Aethrs> patdk- A script giving a sudo password?[03:44:42] <Aethrs> :)[03:44:48] <patdk-lap> why would you use a password?[03:44:53] <SWAG565> i dont like root logins either Aethrs, just trying to change su password changed[03:44:55] <patdk-lap> isn't that the whole point[03:44:57] <Aethrs> Plus, day 1 I was getting 6.6Gb over IB, then the next day it was 100Mb. I'm really confused.[03:45:14] <patdk-lap> sudo rsync[03:45:18] <Aethrs> Basically when I added oi's IB adapter, everything seems a little...wonky.[03:45:21] <patdk-lap> done, it just works, if you read the sudoers manual[03:45:28] <patdk-lap> no password needed[03:45:41] <patdk-lap> what is the solaris way? pfexec?[03:45:46] *** doug_ndndn has quit IRC[03:45:55] <patdk-lap> what ib adapters are you using?[03:46:14] <Aethrs> patdk- Mellanox no-ram on Windows/Linux. The one you recommended off ebay(20gb) for oi.[03:46:34] <Aethrs> The Linux>Windows was 6Gb, Windows>Linux was 4Gb[03:46:39] <Aethrs> Day 2 when I got the oi up[03:46:43] <Aethrs> Those both went down to around 100Mb.[03:46:56] <patdk-lap> now did you have ib configured?[03:47:00] <Aethrs> oi wanted a "pkey", I used 0xffff[03:47:02] <Aethrs> For IPoIB[03:47:07] <Aethrs> Was that proper?[03:47:20] <patdk-lap> dunno, that is what my sm wanted me to use[03:47:33] *** SWAG565 has quit IRC[03:47:52] <Aethrs> Oddly enough, linux didn't ask[03:47:59] *** SWAG565 has joined #openindiana[03:48:11] <patdk-lap> linux defaults[03:48:14] <patdk-lap> it's adjustable though[03:48:16] <Aethrs> to 0xffff ?[03:48:26] <Aethrs> I wasn't sure how to figure out what Linux defaults to.[03:48:33] <patdk-lap> it's in /sys[03:49:08] *** Bdragon has joined #openindiana[03:51:04] <patdk-lap> but mainly, you need to make sure your using the same things[03:51:04] *** Seony has quit IRC[03:51:12] <patdk-lap> connection mode, or unreliable datagram on both ends[03:51:15] <patdk-lap> same mtu sizes[03:51:28] <patdk-lap> personally, I like to use connected mode and mtu 65520[03:51:30] <Aethrs> For IPoIB or for storage?[03:51:42] <patdk-lap> though, connected mode isn't always stable with every os/driver/...[03:51:46] <Aethrs> I didn't see a way to set the MTU.. It looked like a switch setting.[03:51:52] <patdk-lap> is there a difference?[03:52:00] <patdk-lap> srp doesn't use ipoib[03:52:04] <Aethrs> Ahh yes[03:52:04] <patdk-lap> but everything else does[03:52:06] <Aethrs> I really wanted to use srp[03:52:15] <Aethrs> But srp_daemon didn't see the storage..And gave umad errors.[03:52:20] <patdk-lap> srp in linux is not good[03:52:30] <patdk-lap> well ya, srp in linux is a pain[03:52:41] <patdk-lap> it works, it worked for me[03:52:42] <Aethrs> It was freaking out on LID 2, which was the switch.[03:52:48] <patdk-lap> but still ded not feel it was stable[03:52:54] <Aethrs> Hmm[03:52:59] <Aethrs> Any clue how to get windos to scan for srp storage?[03:53:06] <patdk-lap> I don't do windows[03:53:41] <Aethrs> It also looks like I can upgrade the port speed on the switch[03:53:47] <Aethrs> Which is pretty neat, as long as I don't use all the ports.[03:53:54] <patdk-lap> no[03:54:05] <Aethrs> Hmm[03:54:11] <patdk-lap> you can *bond* 3 ports and make a 30gbit sdrx12 port[03:54:15] <Aethrs> Hmm[03:54:30] <Aethrs> The port selection screen looked like i could put it to ddr or whatever.[03:54:35] <patdk-lap> normally it runs in sdrx4 mode (10gig)[03:54:43] <patdk-lap> what switch?[03:54:47] <Aethrs> Topspin 120[03:54:48] <patdk-lap> a topspin 120 won't[03:55:22] <Aethrs> I need to upgrade the card firmwares I think.[03:55:25] <Aethrs> Or at least, that's my next step.[03:55:29] <Aethrs> ibnodes shows my nodes[03:55:33] <Aethrs> But srp kinda fails.[03:55:43] <Aethrs> ibdiagnet seems to think everything is ok.[03:55:52] <Aethrs> Except it shows this: -I- Subnet: IPv4 PKey:0x7fff QKey:0x80d03908 MTU:2048Byte rate:2.5Gbps SL:0x00[03:56:06] <Aethrs> So there's some random 0x7fff pkey out there for ipoib(?)[03:56:28] <patdk-lap> no idea[03:56:35] <patdk-lap> I did a factory reset on mine[03:56:35] <Aethrs> Where do I find Linux's pkey?[03:56:40] <patdk-lap> google?[03:56:44] <Aethrs> Okay[03:56:57] <patdk-lap> lmgtfy :)[03:57:28] <Aethrs> Sorry for all the questions. I think I'm pretty close so it's frustrating. :)[03:58:17] <patdk-lap> there is a LOT to learn with ib[03:58:27] <Aethrs> Yeah, and the documentation seems a little lacking at times.[03:58:42] <patdk-lap> oh? you found some?[03:58:46] <Aethrs> Yes ;)[03:59:03] <Aethrs> There's this guy patdk-lap on IRC< he's awesome..[03:59:48] <patdk-lap> I personally just stuck to iscsi/nfs on ib[03:59:53] <patdk-lap> I did love using iser[03:59:59] <patdk-lap> but not much really supported that[04:00:03] <Aethrs> I basically just want to shove a iSCSI over it.[04:00:11] <Aethrs> No other real needs/wants.[04:00:23] <Aethrs> GE just doesn't do it speed wise.[04:00:28] <patdk-lap> iser I think will just work, with linux[04:00:36] <patdk-lap> I forget exactly if there is special config needed[04:00:50] <patdk-lap> I know srp needed lots of extra crap on both ends[04:00:54] <ball> IP over IB is an interesting choice[04:00:55] <Aethrs> It seemed like in theory srp_daemon should just "find" LUNs.[04:01:00] <ball> I'll be back shortly.[04:01:05] <Aethrs> I was using IPoIB because that's all I could get working, to be honest.[04:01:09] <patdk-lap> eoib is painful[04:01:19] <Aethrs> I don't really want IPoIB :)[04:01:35] <patdk-lap> srp_daemon won't find luns[04:01:47] <patdk-lap> you have to echo them into /sys to the kernel[04:01:54] <Aethrs> That's odd... I thought srp_daemon -a -o -v was supposed to discover them.[04:02:00] <patdk-lap> don't think so[04:02:08] <patdk-lap> or maybe you just have to echo in where to look[04:02:09] <Aethrs> let me find where I read that.[04:02:11] <patdk-lap> and it finds luns[04:02:14] <Aethrs> Oh, yeah[04:02:18] <Aethrs> I think it helped and gave a echo format.[04:02:27] <Aethrs> It was supposed to do the discovery[04:02:33] <Aethrs> Perhaps I could skip the discovery, and just echo it.[04:02:41] <Aethrs> Since I "know" where they are.[04:02:43] <patdk-lap> ya, I never did auto-discovery[04:02:51] <patdk-lap> but I found it a pain to deal with[04:03:03] <patdk-lap> plus, no esxi support (well, painful esxi support)[04:03:16] <Aethrs> How does it work on esxi?[04:03:35] <Aethrs> I pretty much have no knowledge of ib:esxi.[04:03:41] <patdk-lap> install a bunch of custom stuff[04:05:48] <Aethrs> So what are your IB client OS's?[04:08:17] <patdk-lap> oi, ubuntu[04:08:42] <patdk-lap> esxi isn't really a os :)[04:08:58] <Aethrs> Kinda is..[04:09:10] <Aethrs> I should play with ESXi. I more or less use Linux KVM.[04:09:24] <patdk-lap> I try kvm, but it's so painful for me[04:09:27] <patdk-lap> even with virtio[04:09:32] <Aethrs> Why?[04:09:43] <patdk-lap> no idea, 20MB/sec disk writes[04:09:48] <Aethrs> Wow.[04:09:51] <Aethrs> Something's...wrong.[04:09:53] <patdk-lap> where vmware is giving me full disk speed[04:10:00] <Aethrs> Local disks? iSCSI ?[04:10:02] <Aethrs> IB ?[04:10:03] <patdk-lap> local[04:10:08] <Aethrs> I get >500 MB/s[04:10:11] <patdk-lap> local *dedicated* disk[04:10:13] <Aethrs> basically, 95%+ of native.[04:10:27] <Aethrs> It's the main reason I like KVM, infact.[04:10:30] <patdk-lap> ya, this is sata, so 100mb/sec[04:10:50] <patdk-lap> and I easily get that on the linux host[04:10:58] <patdk-lap> now kvm on my laptop, fast[04:11:17] <patdk-lap> but then it's a quad core cpu, and ultra speed ssd :)[04:12:01] <Aethrs> When I've tested, I easily get 95%+ over native disk speed.[04:13:03] <Aethrs> I think I had issues with the 4k sector drive I have somewhere, but other than that it was good.[04:13:12] *** sebsta has quit IRC[04:13:26] *** sebsta has joined #openindiana[04:29:43] *** smrt has quit IRC[04:30:01] *** smrt has joined #openindiana[04:33:58] *** Seony has joined #openindiana[04:36:28] <ball> I get about 120 Mbytes/sec, but that's because I only have one hard disk now.[04:36:49] <Aethrs> I always just look at it in comparison to what the native host gets.[04:40:01] <patdk-lap> 20% :)[04:42:58] <Aethrs> I'm very confused by that patdk.[04:43:33] <Aethrs> VirtIO kinda rocks.[04:45:02] <patdk-lap> dunno, I couldn't get it to work worth anything[04:45:08] <patdk-lap> atleast not in a windows 2003 guest[04:45:27] <Aethrs> Hmm.. I guess I haven't tried with that particular version.[04:45:37] <Aethrs> Maybe you have a funky VirtIO driver version.[04:45:44] <Aethrs> Xp, 7, and various servers work well for me.[04:47:04] <ball> I would like to run a mirror but my mainboard only has two SATA ports.[04:47:14] <ball> ...and one of those is used for the optical drive.[04:47:19] <Aethrs> Get another sata controller.[04:47:33] <ball> Aethrs: And use up my only PCI slot? ;-)[04:47:38] <Aethrs> owie :)[04:48:01] <ball> That's parallel, 32-bit, probably 33 MHz PCI.[04:48:13] <Aethrs> Pretty sure you'd need a PCI-e ;)[04:48:28] <ball> 132 Mbytes/sec absolute theoretical maximum I think.[04:48:48] <patdk-lap> usefux max is 100 :)[04:48:51] <ball> That's what, 1.1 Gbits/sec?[04:49:14] <patdk-lap> well, I have gotten 1.12gbit[04:49:30] <ball> Nice[04:49:30] <patdk-lap> but that also assumes one directional traffic[04:49:48] <ball> patdk-lap: You weren't in a 66 MHz slot?[04:50:03] <patdk-lap> my gigabit card in my p4d cpu? no[04:50:35] <ball> Interesting that people would even make a gigabit card in 33 MHz PCI[04:50:38] <patdk-lap> my computer I haven't powered on in 2 years[04:50:45] <patdk-lap> it's a pcix card[04:50:48] <patdk-lap> in a pci slot :)[04:50:57] <patdk-lap> they do make gigabit pci cards though[04:51:06] <patdk-lap> normally max out at 30-40MB/sec[04:51:18] <Aethrs> So basically like a realtek card ;)[04:51:25] <patdk-lap> yep[04:51:25] <Aethrs> I have a PCI GE card, for transferring stuff off old pcs.[04:51:40] <patdk-lap> I was using it for iscsi disks[04:51:46] <patdk-lap> wasn't so horrible[04:55:41] * ball grins[05:02:02] <Aethrs> Oh, patdk[05:02:09] <Aethrs> How were you backing your KVM? LVM ?[05:02:16] <Aethrs> Because if you back it with files, the performance sucks.[05:02:27] <Aethrs> When I use LVM, it's near native.[05:02:29] <patdk-lap> I didn't[05:02:34] <patdk-lap> I used raw disk[05:02:49] <Aethrs> Well there goes my guess. :)[05:03:16] <patdk-lap> I don't touch lvm, unless I have to[05:03:29] <Aethrs> Well, if you don't want to assign whole disks it's awfully handy.[05:04:08] <patdk-lap> so are sparsefiles :)[05:04:33] <Aethrs> So sparse files on a ext3 filesystem or whatnot?[05:04:49] <patdk-lap> ext4, for raw format[05:05:04] <Aethrs> So that's how you were using KVM? Files over ext4?[05:05:06] <patdk-lap> also tried qcow2 and qcow2 with full metadata expended[05:05:14] <Aethrs> I thought you were using whole-disk.[05:05:46] <patdk-lap> qemu-img raw format[05:05:56] <Aethrs> Oh, i got you. Pointing to a file on ext4?[05:06:07] <Aethrs> That was qcow2 or whatnot?[05:06:17] <Aethrs> If so, that's your performance problem.[05:06:19] <patdk-lap> raw != qcow[05:06:31] <patdk-lap> do you know kvm?[05:06:33] <Aethrs> Set up lvm, create a lvm volume, point it "raw" to said volume.[05:06:46] <Aethrs> Yeah, I just wasn't thinking.[05:06:55] <Aethrs> I thought you meant you were assigning the entire disk, ie /dev/sda[05:07:10] <Aethrs> When I tested files under ext4, the performance was kind of terrible.[05:07:20] <Aethrs> Changed to LVM volumes, performance was near native.[05:07:28] <patdk-lap> that would be a mess, the geomitry wouldn't be right[05:07:38] <Aethrs> 4k disks?[05:07:48] <patdk-lap> raw and qcow2 with metadata extended is suppost to be just as fasst[05:07:53] <patdk-lap> no 512[05:07:55] <Aethrs> From what I saw, it wasn't.[05:08:05] <Aethrs> I'm unsure how the geometry would get messed up.[05:08:13] <Aethrs> I have a lot of machines running that way, though.[05:08:24] <patdk-lap> lvm != raw disk[05:08:34] <Aethrs> Let me peek at a kvm, real quick.[05:09:16] <patdk-lap> well, vmware workstation doing the exact same thing was hella lot faster :)[05:11:08] <Aethrs> KVM: <disk type='block' device='disk'><driver name='qemu' type='raw'/><source dev='/dev/vg0/vm0_star_root/><target dev='vda' bus='virtio'/> </disk>[05:11:27] <Aethrs> Whatever you consider that. :) I consider it raw pointing to a LVM.[05:11:55] <Aethrs> That's a 'virsh dumpxml <machinename>'[05:11:56] <patdk-lap> that is a raw lvm[05:12:09] <Aethrs> For me, that works >95% native.[05:12:10] <patdk-lap> qemu-img does raw (sparse files)[05:12:19] <Aethrs> I had terrible performance with files.[05:12:40] <Aethrs> Or at least, what I considered "not ok".[05:14:11] <Aethrs> If you ever want to give it another try, that's how I'd recommend giving it a spin. :)[05:14:48] <patdk-lap> well, 20MB/sec is hightly better than it was :)[05:15:00] <Aethrs> You'll get whatever your disk will do.[05:15:04] <Aethrs> I would expect.[05:15:08] <patdk-lap> 8MB/sec at the moment, using xen over lvm partition[05:15:18] <patdk-lap> on a 4 disk raid10[05:15:20] *** sebsta has quit IRC[05:16:20] *** sebsta_ has joined #openindiana[05:19:23] *** sebsta_ has quit IRC[05:20:06] *** SANVisum has joined #openindiana[05:21:56] *** SWAG565 has quit IRC[05:24:54] <ball> I just went from 5 Mbytes/sec (on the enterprise storage thinggie) to 0. I think I killed it.[05:25:12] <patdk-lap> nice[05:25:21] * patdk-lap is building grub 2.00[05:25:32] <patdk-lap> hopes luks support will work ok[05:25:40] <ball> I just paged a datacentre engineer.[05:27:22] *** magyar has quit IRC[05:27:42] *** magyar has joined #openindiana[05:27:42] *** magyar has joined #openindiana[05:34:25] * SANVisum shudders[05:34:40] <SANVisum> I'm a dc engineer...and i'm on call this week :)[05:35:04] <SANVisum> is there a document that helps to troubleshoot boot problems on OI?[05:36:28] <SANVisum> powered off (bad lightning earlier), no powering on and getting "Reboot and select proper boot device or Insert boot media in selected boot device and press any key"[05:36:52] <SANVisum> no changes to OS / HW at all[05:37:33] <oninoshiko> I have seen Intel boards like to be fairly random about their boot order[05:38:13] <SANVisum> I've gone to the boot screen, selected the boot drive, and same result[05:38:50] <oninoshiko> hrm.. I mean that certainly looks like a bad boot sector, or maybe a USB disk or cdrom in the drive or similer[05:38:51] <SANVisum> Intel in general? Or Intel specific?\[05:39:07] <SANVisum> no cd in machine, and checked the usb ports, nothing in it[05:39:27] <oninoshiko> ones made by intel, others may or may not have the same issue. I wouldn't know[05:42:09] <SANVisum> ah. this is an asus amd fusion board[05:44:24] <SANVisum> welp, certainly the disk order. I pulled all the other sata drives except the boot drive and it is booting find[05:44:26] <SANVisum> *fine[05:45:05] <SANVisum> the sas drives don't show up in the bios at all since horsi pointed me to the sas it stuff[05:46:43] <SANVisum> so, the pool for the other three drives is now unavail. 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