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[02:02:27] <myrkraverk> A clone of openindiana exists and has been updated and activated. <--- what does that mean?
[02:04:36] <alanc> that a new boot environment was made, from your existing boot environment named "openindiana", and that boot environment was updated to the new software and set to be active on the next reboot
[02:04:58] <alanc> if you've never used any version of opensolaris before, I'm sure there's some newbie docs that google can find for you
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[02:18:08] <myrkraverk> To be honest, it's the first time I get a new boot environment. Is my old one still there?
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[02:19:25] <myrkraverk> Ah, there's beadm and stuff :)
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[02:22:04] <alanc> yes, that's what "clone" means - it preserves the old one for falling back to in case there's a problem
[02:22:12] <myrkraverk> Each line in the machine parasable output has the boot <--- typo in man beadm.
[02:22:19] <myrkraverk> Nice :)
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[02:46:26] <myrkraverk> And because #ubuntu seems clueless, can I tell it to leave my MBR alone when I install it?
[02:49:57] <myrkraverk> Thing is, according to some thread (before 11.10 came out I think) it seems impossible/very hard.
[02:50:22] <papertigers> myrkraverk: if it destroys your mbr, boot the ubuntu disk , chroot into the env and run the update grub command
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[02:50:38] <papertigers> update-grub
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[02:51:08] <papertigers> myrkraverk: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=19414efce021648558d2a7c41699a5b7&p=9513035&postcount=7
[02:51:14] <myrkraverk> papertigers, I want to keep my OI MBR. Preferably without magic. I also have experence with Ubuntu overwriting the MBR during updates. That sucks.
[02:52:08] <papertigers> myrkraverk: ahh okay
[02:52:39] <myrkraverk> This is why I want to tell Ubuntu to "leave my MBR alone, forever."
[02:53:16] <papertigers> myrkraverk: when you install ubuntu it asks if you want to install grub...atleast on the server version
[02:54:21] <myrkraverk> Ah, though I guess I want the desktop version - I use it almost exclusively to play WoW.
[02:54:47] <myrkraverk> And as usual, something like #ubuntu is clueless.
[02:55:20] <myrkraverk> Though if I have X and an NVidia driver on the server version -- that might work.
[02:56:31] <papertigers> so you want to install ubuntu as the second OS on the system after OI?
[02:56:58] <myrkraverk> Yes. I alreday have OI installed -- it was more important :)
[02:57:14] <myrkraverk> And Wine failed on me when I tried to install WoW.
[02:57:36] <papertigers> myrkraverk: you could install server, then apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ;)
[02:58:06] <myrkraverk> Hmm, that's an option.
[02:58:56] <papertigers> OR dd the MBR someplace and replace it after the install
[02:59:24] <papertigers> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-copy-mbr/
[03:00:04] <myrkraverk> Yeah, dd the MBR is not so much an issue. I'ts more an issue when Ubuntu decides to "fix it" when I update. Really, there is a reason why some people call it Vista Linux.
[03:00:36] <papertigers> myrkraverk: ubuntu should only update grub.cfg
[03:00:47] <papertigers> it shouldnt reinstall grub
[03:00:56] <myrkraverk> Well, my 9.04 did.
[03:01:17] <papertigers> ok, apt remove grub then...then it wont update
[03:01:40] <myrkraverk> Ok, I'll keep that in mind, thanks :)
[03:01:52] <myrkraverk> But now I realize I CBA to install Ubuntu tonight :)
[03:01:55] <papertigers> just make sure nothing depends on it haha
[03:02:34] <myrkraverk> Well, apt should warn me -- but really why would anything depend on grub?
[03:03:01] <myrkraverk> (I can just envision everything depending on grub indirectly though)
[03:03:23] <papertigers> ubuntu-desktop may for some odd reason. But its unlikely
[03:04:10] <myrkraverk> Yeah -- I'll try apt remove grub, but then I have to teach OI grub to boot Ubuntu -- I never did that, I just put the MBR in a file and chainloaded from that.
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[03:21:02] <hjf> so
[03:21:07] <hjf> OI is "development"
[03:21:17] <hjf> does that mean I shouldn't use it in production?
[03:21:52] <hjf> with "production" values equal to "home file server"
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[03:32:41] <viridari> there are people running OI 148 in production
[03:32:54] <viridari> I was using OI 151 for awhile as a home file server
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[06:04:29] <Botanic> i just had my cache ssd cause my zfs pool to stop responding
[06:04:36] <Botanic> is there any way to see what caused it?
[06:04:41] <Botanic> i removed the drive and all is good
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[08:16:08] <madwizard> Coffee
[08:18:37] <altker128> Avoid using SSDs...
[08:19:02] <Gibheer> avoid using computers ...
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[08:26:56] <Garo__> how do I turn the equivalent of no_root_squash (the root=) parameter to an nfs share in my openindiana system? I'm mounting a share from openindiana into a linux server and I want that the root in the linux box can access every file in the nfs share, regardless of the files permissions.
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[08:50:41] <RoyK> hrmf. how can I stop a scrub? I've offlined the device, but scrub is still running
[08:51:07] <Tenzer> zpool scrub -s, ?
[08:51:11] <tsoome> zpoolscrub -s
[08:51:14] <tsoome> :D
[08:51:26] <RoyK> cannot cancel scrubbing dpool: currently resilvering
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[08:51:49] <Tenzer> That's not really a scrub in the traditional sense then
[08:51:59] <RoyK> first thing I tried :þ
[08:52:13] <tsoome> hm, tbh, im not sure you can cancel resilver
[08:52:28] <tsoome> altho offlining the drive should do that
[08:52:43] <Agnar> RoyK: is the disk to be resilvered in a mirrored vdev?
[08:52:58] <Agnar> RoyK: then detach or split should do
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[08:54:15] <tsoome> Agnar: my system is now paired with AD:P
[08:54:46] <RoyK> Agnar: it's in a raidz2 group
[08:55:08] <Agnar> tsoome: your brain too? ;)
[08:55:20] <Agnar> RoyK: no idea then :)
[08:55:20] <tsoome> 10%
[08:55:22] <tsoome> ;)
[08:55:55] <Agnar> tsoome: hehe. make sure your AD is not too new, so you can still use old authentication methods
[08:56:11] <tsoome> it is very old, 2003
[08:56:27] <Agnar> we had some very strange krb5 problems when migrating to 2008.
[08:56:47] <RoyK> Agnar: works with win2kr2 too
[08:56:52] <tsoome> which is kind of stupid, because it cant use aes etc, altho it should be able to
[08:56:55] <RoyK> just need to hack the registry a bit
[08:57:32] * RoyK has a rather recent AD based on win2k8r2
[08:57:35] <Agnar> I always avoid touching a windows system. with success within the last ~15 years
[08:58:23] <RoyK> Agnar: avoid fixing problems has never been my thing :þ
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[09:00:39] <Agnar> I always had enough problems with solaris, aix, irix, hp-ux, bsd and linux... ,)
[09:00:52] <tsoome> some problems cant be fixed unfortunately…
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[09:57:22] <RoyK> tsoome: most can, even on windoze :P
[09:58:13] <tsoome> can you use kadmin to read and store keytab?:P
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[10:05:13] <RoyK> tsoome: RTFS
[10:05:21] <RoyK> or SMOP
[10:05:23] <tsoome> ?
[10:05:40] <RoyK> simple matter of programming :D
[10:05:43] <tsoome> i was expecting simple yes/no type of answer:P
[10:05:51] <tsoome> :D
[10:06:10] <tsoome> i know with programming one can do anything:)
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[10:52:11] <haj> It shouldn't be a problem offlining a zpool cache device?
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[11:06:09] <haj> it wasn't... and it seems to stop my I/O from hanging...
[11:06:15] <haj> stupid SSD's...
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[11:07:23] <RoyK> haj: it really shouldn't be an issue
[11:07:36] <RoyK> oh - SSDs can fail too, you know ;)
[11:09:12] * RoyK has some 400 drives in various machines at work and is quite used to drives dying
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[11:16:28] <haj> RoyK: I just surfed on the error the NFSd was giving me.. and got a few hits on SATA hangs... and my SSD's are SATA..
[11:16:54] <haj> Issue was ALL I/O droped to zero... no busy rates or anything
[11:19:04] <RoyK> SLOG unit?
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[11:19:50] <haj> shit.. actually it just did it again...
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[11:20:10] <haj> hmm .. it could be the logdevices I guess
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[13:25:40] <vados> how you look at the CPU temperature ?
[13:27:29] <madwizard> With suspicion
[13:29:26] <vados> meaningful
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[14:32:44] <madwizard> vados: It would help if you stated your hardware, for instance
[14:33:18] <madwizard> In some cases prtdiag -v will display CPU temperature, I've seen someone monitor temps with dtrace script, but it works on some motherboards only
[14:33:28] <madwizard> I'm not sure if tehre is one working solutionfor all HW
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[14:36:18] <vados> vados@openindiana-home:~# prtdiag -v
[14:36:18] <vados> System Configuration: TOSHIBA Satellite A210
[14:36:18] <vados> BIOS Configuration: Phoenix Technologies LTD 2.00 01/25/2010
[14:36:18] <vados> ==== Processor Sockets ====================================
[14:36:18] <vados> Version Location Tag
[14:36:19] <vados> Engineering Samplenology Socket M2/S1G1
[14:36:20] <vados> ==== Memory Device Sockets ================================
[14:36:20] <vados> Type Status Set Device Locator Bank Locator
[14:36:21] <vados> DDR2 in use 1 S1 DIMM1
[14:36:21] <vados> DDR2 empty 2 S2 DIMM2
[14:37:38] <madwizard> So it doesn't
[14:41:47] <madwizard> vados: Try this script maybe
[14:41:49] <madwizard> http://www.mail-archive.com/dtrace-discuss at opensolaris dot org/msg03086.html
[14:43:03] <tsoome> basically there are exactly 2 options afaik, one is to read it from remote management card, second one is tzmon acpi module, but it will require ACPI 3 i think
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[14:45:38] <tsoome> since solaris desktop support is only basic, and servers monitor/report alerts via ilom, there has been very limited need for environmental data (even if there is tzmon module, there is no userland interface to get the data, except dtrace;)
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[14:53:23] <vados> high 67.0
[14:55:20] <vados> after the update was heated
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[15:32:06] <vados> madwizard: thanks for the help
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[15:44:08] <vados> I will hope that the laptop will not burn :)
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[18:03:26] <Vutral> btw
[18:03:30] <Vutral> these voltage and current sense boards
[18:03:31] <Vutral> are a bit small
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[18:18:46] <patdk-wk> hmm, I need to figure out the correct way to kill an ipmp
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[18:31:41] <tomww> remove the unwanted interface names from the ipmp group?
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[18:32:36] <bodie> hi all
[18:34:48] <bodie> someone here with working vpnc? Because it seems that tuntap driver from sfe repository doesn't pass any packets (either in or out) on oi-151a2 or Illumos
[18:38:18] <tomww> hm.
[18:39:48] <tomww> how did you test this? if it was snoop. I'm unsurei, but I doubt that snopp would display those packages.
[18:40:59] <bodie> It's quite complicated, after install of vpnc when I try to connect to our VPN then my routes are completely fucked up, so I replacet vpnc-script with latest one from sources and then it's able to set routes correctly and ping against gw or tunnel IP works
[18:41:33] <bodie> but ping against any DNS server from /etc/resolv.conf or any IP except of those in netstat -rn -f inet output doesn't work at all
[18:41:57] <Woodstock> i use tun/tap and vpnc from pkgsrc, and it works
[18:42:24] <Woodstock> although it occasionally exits without cleaning up the tun devices and routes
[18:42:30] <bodie> when I ping eg. google.com and after some time ctrl-c then I can see 0 packets transmitted and 0 received and snoop -I tun0 shows only outgoing packets, but not any reply for DNS service
[18:43:07] <bodie> Woodstock: from pkgsrc? Is there some setup for that in wiki? Because I think that I did not see any
[18:43:58] <bodie> I have occasional exits on other systems during last couple of months, but I solved that with config file option
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[18:45:35] <bodie> Woodstock: try this --dpd-idle <0,10-86400> Send DPD packet after not receiving anything for <idle> seconds. Use 0 to disable DPD completely (both ways). Default: 600 conf-variable: DPD idle timeout (our side) <0,10-86400>
[18:45:49] <bodie> Woodstock: I set to 0
[18:47:21] <Woodstock> hm
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[18:56:37] <bodie> Woodstock: quite old http://pkgsrc-repo.uk.openindiana.org/ and vpnc is not there so you probably compiled directly from pkgsrc
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[18:59:23] <bodie> hmmm or maybe this one can be relate http://thestaticvoid.com/post/2010/07/22/fun-with-vpnc/
[19:00:50] <bodie> because normally I used something like that http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/ports/security/vpnc/pkg/MESSAGE?rev=1.1 so is it possible that OpenIndiana "eats" ESP packets?
[19:01:11] <Woodstock> indeed, i have that option set. thats probably why it works :)
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[19:04:40] <bodie> if it's really true then it's possible that it will work tomorrow, I can login vpn so it will be possible to install it on my laptop. Maybe, because I need to find if my network interfaces are supported because they are quite new. On testing machine it's fine, but not on my laptop with oi
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[20:17:00] <saablover> how can I disable the load of scsa2usb during bootup ?
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[20:22:50] <saablover> hi Trisk
[20:23:00] <saablover> you add this behind the existing -B ?
[20:24:06] <Triskelios> don't add a second -B
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[20:51:17] <madwizard> Coffee
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[22:01:07] <altker128> Dumb question on iSCSI: If I have OI provide ZFS volumes via iSCSI, can you have multiple initiators ('clients') accessing the same volume? Or is NFS/CIFS better for this scenario?
[22:05:03] <altker128> Seems like a dangerous idea to me and not the normal use case (of x drives: 1 initiator), just curious though.
[22:06:08] <Warod> ummm, should be possible as is
[22:07:09] <Warod> FS _must_ take the multiple clients in account or you must have some other locking method
[22:07:27] <Warod> or else you'll end up with fucked up FS. :)
[22:07:39] <Warod> iSCSI provides block level access, nothing else really.
[22:08:10] <altker128> So that would rely on ZFS then ; the iSCSI initiators would appear no different to ZFS than multiple processes on a computer trying to access the same data store?
[22:08:25] <Warod> uh?
[22:08:37] <Warod> you share a zvol over iscsi
[22:08:38] <Triskelios> altker128: *clients* are responsible for locking
[22:08:44] <Warod> not a NFS filesystem
[22:08:49] <Warod> err.. ZFS filesystem
[22:09:31] <altker128> right. If you share a ZFS filesystem via iSCSI, then the ZFS locking (whatever it is) comes into play and the iSCSI initiators ('clients') would be no different than say, a perl script and nano running on the same machine trying to simueltaneously access the same file.
[22:09:32] <Warod> you can think zvol as a block level allocation of your zpool.
[22:09:50] <Triskelios> altker128: zvols aren't files!
[22:10:14] <altker128> Triskelios: I don't mean to imply they are.
[22:10:19] <Warod> altker128: Think of having 2 SATA cables on your HDD and trying to access the disk from 2 different machines.
[22:10:57] <viridari> I know GPFS wouldn't have a problem with this arrangement
[22:11:13] <altker128> You have files (file1.txt, file2.txt) on some ZFS volume, right? So if you use iSCSI and one machine is accessing file1.txt and another tries to write to the same file, the locking/open for RW permission handling is being dealt by ZFS whereas with NFS or CIFS you have some other layer on top...
[22:11:26] <Triskelios> altker128: no, you don't!
[22:11:36] <Triskelios> a zvol is a raw block device
[22:11:37] <viridari> errr I don't think that's true altker128
[22:11:43] <Triskelios> there are no files!
[22:11:50] <Triskelios> iSCSI is SCSI over IP
[22:12:01] <viridari> ^
[22:12:02] <viridari> that
[22:12:03] <altker128> Ah, no filesystem is involved.
[22:12:10] <Warod> altker128: a BLOCK LEVEL access
[22:12:18] <altker128> right
[22:12:33] <viridari> the iscsi client just sees a raw block device almost no different from a locally attached scsi disk
[22:12:35] <altker128> OK, so basically if you want to use a filesystem on-top, that's on the client to create/manage.
[22:12:49] <Triskelios> exactly
[22:13:03] <Warod> altker128: if you want file level access, use NFS
[22:13:20] <altker128> iSCSI == transporting SCSI command-set (block device commands) over IP which can be carried over Ethernet or networking interfaces, not much more...
[22:13:26] <altker128> (is what it seems like)
[22:13:49] <Triskelios> right
[22:13:55] <matsim> altker128: It's SCSI over the IP protocoll - this is why there is higher latency
[22:14:16] <matsim> FCoE is Fibre Channe lover the Ethernet layer - not routable but less layers
[22:14:18] <altker128> OK, so back to NFS it is then :).
[22:14:31] <Warod> NFS works
[22:14:40] <altker128> No doubt!
[22:15:11] <Warod> you'll _propably_ end up with more problems with iSCSI anyways.
[22:15:29] <altker128> I'm sadly dealing with OSX (Snow Leopard) as an NFS client. It supports local-locking . Any thoughts on the implications?
[22:15:29] <Warod> linux iSCSI initiator is not quite that good anyways
[22:16:29] <Warod> NFS should work. If not, use SMB or AFP.
[22:16:47] <viridari> what, no OpenAFS?
[22:16:51] <altker128> Warod: The issue with AFP is it's use of a database to map file names to the client-IDs that AFP uses.
[22:16:55] <Warod> NFS and SMB are easy to set up... zfs set sharenfs and sharesmb ....
[22:17:04] <altker128> viridari: Andrew-File-System, or Apple-File-Sharing...
[22:18:00] <viridari> altker128: http://openafs.org/
[22:18:01] <altker128> Warod: In my experience NFS is better performing than SMB/CIFS but that's highly dependant on the client.
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[22:18:10] <altker128> Yes, AndrewFS.
[22:18:33] <Warod> Apple File Sharing is what I was referring to.
[22:18:36] <altker128> viridari: Are you using OpenAFS? Just curious what you see.
[22:19:04] <Warod> altker128: and yes, well.. the OI internal CIFS is quite good actually.
[22:19:04] <altker128> Warod: Yeah, Apple-File-Sharing uses that database which means if I export a volume via AFP AND NFS/SMB, there might be issues.
[22:19:06] <viridari> altker128: I haven't been able to use it in a number of years because most IT departments are populated by scared pandas
[22:19:12] <Warod> altker128: ok
[22:19:22] <Warod> altker128: well, go either with NFS or CIFS then
[22:19:32] <altker128> That's the conclusion I came to as well :/
[22:19:35] <altker128> too
[22:19:43] <Warod> both work
[22:19:47] <viridari> NFS has like zero security just about, unless you're talking about NFS4 with GSSAPI, etc
[22:20:00] <Warod> both can give you near 1 Gbps speeds if your setup is correct
[22:20:01] <altker128> viridari: Do you mean ACLs and what not?
[22:20:19] <viridari> altker128: I mean NFS(<4) does nothing to auth users
[22:20:28] <Warod> IP. :P
[22:20:30] <viridari> altker128: NFS3 inherently trusts you are who you say you are
[22:20:34] <Warod> yeah, depends on the network setup
[22:20:54] <altker128> Warod: I'll be going juumbo frames, Intel GigE, TCP (vs. UDP) so higher-performance should be possible.
[22:21:04] <viridari> anybody that cares so little as to use nfs3 can't be trusted to have a secure physical network layer
[22:21:20] <Warod> altker128: is it closed network you can trust?
[22:21:21] <altker128> viridari: Is your impression that CIFS is more secure?
[22:21:34] <viridari> altker128: yes, compared to NFS(<4)
[22:21:39] <altker128> Warod: Yeah, it's a closed network with a separate network infrastructure for file-system access only.
[22:22:35] <altker128> viridari: Have you looked at CIFS performance vs. NFS with the same server and same clients? Historically, using Samba (trdige Samba) I got about ~50% of raw network performance, 100-Mbit Ethernet, 1500-MTU
[22:23:01] <viridari> NFS on Gigabit is interesting
[22:23:12] <Warod> altker128: I've got quite near 1 Gbps with CIFS 1500 MTU
[22:23:25] <viridari> NFS3 payload is ~8K, so with UDP overhead it fits very nicely in a jumbo frame without fragmentation
[22:23:45] <Warod> say, 700 - 850 Mbps
[22:23:53] <altker128> viridari: Yeah, that's my observation. Did you try TCP vs. UDP?
[22:24:22] <viridari> altker128: when I'm crossing subnet boundaries I take the performance hit and use tcp
[22:24:47] <altker128> viridari: In your testing set-up, what machine was the client?
[22:24:51] <viridari> otherwise udp has been faster for me within the confines of a subnet
[22:24:51] <altker128> Warod: What client?
[22:24:59] <Warod> altker128: OSX
[22:25:10] <Warod> I think Snow Leopard
[22:25:16] <altker128> Warod: Did you monitor CPU utilization during the file transfers?
[22:25:21] <viridari> altker128: tested with clients including OpenBSD, Linux, Solaris 9, IBM mainframe
[22:25:23] <Warod> altker128: no, not really
[22:25:24] <altker128> Warod: I'll assume OI as a server.
[22:25:30] <Warod> altker128: yes
[22:25:45] <viridari> altker128: I found that the Solaris 9 boxes couldn't hang with the jumbo frame configuration so they got stuck on the slow bus
[22:25:45] <altker128> Warod: Did you do any performance tuning on either OI side or Snow side?
[22:25:53] <Warod> no
[22:26:09] <altker128> Warod: Impressive :). Thanks for sharing the data point.
[22:26:12] <viridari> altker128: CPU utilization went down measurably on jumbo frame config
[22:26:25] <altker128> viridari: Yes, I would expect that too
[22:26:42] <altker128> viridari: Larger frame-size, fewer interrupts per transfer.
[22:27:12] <viridari> also if you use tcp you will want to tune read & write window sizes on the interface
[22:27:16] <altker128> viridari: Ever play with the settings on a FBSD machine, specifically the /etc/sysctl.conf ?
[22:27:55] <viridari> yes, FreeBSD 8.0 against Sun Unified Storage 7310... I didn't see much advantage in tuning the stack on FBSD amazingly
[22:28:08] <altker128> viridari: Jumbo or non-Jumbo on FBSD?
[22:28:17] <viridari> Jumbo vs. 1500
[22:28:25] <viridari> i.e. 9k vs 1500
[22:28:45] <viridari> most of my prod servers today are FreeBSD
[22:29:14] <altker128> viridari: Did you change the mssdflt when enabling Jumbo-frames?
[22:31:06] <viridari> no, didn't get far w/ freebsd testing
[22:31:47] <altker128> viridari: What happens with Jumbo frames & TCP? Does it still fit into the ~9K-byte frame-size?
[22:31:57] <altker128> err +NFS3
[22:33:09] <viridari> altker128: IIRC, yes, it does.
[22:34:31] <altker128> I need to jump off now. Guys, thanks a lot for answering these questions and providing your insights. I'll get NFS3 going and do some performance tuning and report back. Thanks again.
[22:34:41] <altker128> NFS3+CIFS.
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[23:15:14] <Patrickdk> hmm, a zvol can only work in one view at a time?
[23:15:35] <Patrickdk> or is it limited to one target?
[23:15:48] <Patrickdk> I setup a target on one lan, and another target on another lan
[23:16:06] <Patrickdk> and can't seem to share the same lun on both, though it appears to be, it only connects on the first one
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[23:42:04] <myrkraverk> How do I backup my MBR again?
[23:43:12] <myrkraverk> I shut down FF and don't want to fire it up again just to google what to dd. ;/
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[23:43:47] <myrkraverk> Oh never mind, one reboot coming up first.
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