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[00:04:31] <DanaG> "Check that the settings are correct for this network and that the computer is correctly connected to it."
[00:04:37] <DanaG> when I try to activate the interface vboxnet0
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[00:07:02] <DanaG> argh, what the heck... I set a static IP for the thing, and even when I "activate" the interface... it doesn't apply the static IP!
[00:08:29] <DanaG> http://openindiana.org/pipermail/openindiana-discuss/2011-October/005769.html
[00:08:40] <tomww> normally no one configures those vbox* interfaces manually. all what is usually done is to configure a client in vbox and assign network interfaces there, and done.
[00:09:00] <DanaG> It IS "configured" in virtualbox... but has no IP and is link-down.
[00:09:08] <DanaG> So vbox is obviously not doing its job.
[00:10:26] <DanaG> In fact, if I reconfigure it, ifconfig vboxnet0 gives "no such interface".
[00:12:45] <Botanic_> virtualbox networking is fubar :)
[00:13:31] <DanaG> Unfortunately, I see no better, step-by-step ideas of how to get host-only networking.
[00:17:44] <DanaG> like, yesterday somebody told me how to set up a vnic.. but now how do I give it a static IP?
[00:21:58] <Botanic_> DanaG, might i ask why you need host-only networking?
[00:22:00] <DanaG> And here's soembody's description of WHAT to do, but not HOW:
[00:22:01] <DanaG> http://ewaldertl.blogspot.com/2011/09/virtualbox-running-in-openindiana-using.html
[00:22:09] <DanaG> Botanic_: for an nfs share from host to guest.
[00:22:10] <Botanic_> you could setup nfs to only connect via specific ip's via nat
[00:22:22] <Botanic_> so its still secure =/
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[00:22:32] <DanaG> I've tried using vbox nat... and the guest still can't connect to the host over nfs.
[00:22:38] <Botanic_> i have never been able to get vbox to work on host only mode
[00:22:42] <Botanic_> nono
[00:22:47] <Botanic_> use the standard bridged mode
[00:22:48] <Botanic_> or w/e
[00:22:56] <Botanic_> its not host-only
[00:23:01] <Botanic_> but you should be able to connect
[00:23:06] <Botanic_> and setup a firewall to secure it
[00:23:08] <Botanic_> or something
[00:23:24] <Botanic_> i spent a few days on the same issue with some other box's and never was able to get it to work
[00:23:36] <Botanic_> i just ended up giving up :(
[00:24:32] <DanaG> Host-only worked okay on Linux host for me.
[00:25:08] <Botanic_> it does with some distro's
[00:25:10] <Botanic_> not with other's
[00:25:22] <Botanic_> it does something funky :(
[00:26:04] <Botanic_> you try #virtualbox?
[00:26:14] <Botanic_> maby there is something you gotta set in vbox
[00:26:35] <DanaG> I've asked yesterday... seems nobody there uses OI.
[00:26:57] <Botanic_> say open solarus :)
[00:27:10] <Botanic_> it should work the same way
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[02:02:30] <[noc]> Does Openindiana spin down harddisks when htey aren't in use?
[02:15:41] <DanaG> weird.... so, nfs mounting from nat guest works... but results in ?????? permissions
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[02:21:43] <DanaG> hmm, I wonder... if I installed an Intel nic, and made that primary... and then bridged vbox to bge0...
[02:21:53] <DanaG> can vbox use a bridged, down interface?
[02:22:33] <richlowe> "resulted in ????? permissions" smells of bad ACLs
[02:22:49] <richlowe> bad such that you can't actually read the mode bits
[02:22:57] <richlowe> possible nfs4 domain name badness?
[02:23:48] <Botanic_> DanaG, yes it can in theory
[02:24:11] <DanaG> What's weird is that the very same share works fine when I use the real LAN IP address.
[02:24:36] <Botanic_> ya vbox is all fubar when it comes to host connecting networking
[02:24:37] <DanaG> I change what IP it mounts by, back to the server's real LAN IP... it works.
[02:25:05] <DanaG> Hmm, how does the host see bridged-mode network packets? Is there any way, aside from IP, to block nfs from anything but the guest?
[02:25:20] <Botanic_> firewall
[02:25:22] <DanaG> Oh, and vbox's "vboxnet0" interface varies for me... between not existing, and merely being down.
[02:25:26] <Botanic_> ip policy in nfs
[02:25:45] <cis> is this really a virtualization issue? or is this a nfs server issue due to bad handling of nat?
[02:25:56] <DanaG> Well, the NAT server is the host.
[02:25:57] <Botanic_> its vbox
[02:26:10] <DanaG> oh, I see.. vbox nat doesn't create a nat host interface.
[02:26:13] <DanaG> It just lies to the guest.
[02:26:16] <Botanic_> yup
[02:26:22] <Botanic_> sharenfs=rw= at 192 dot 168.1.104
[02:26:25] <Botanic_> could use that
[02:26:32] <Botanic_> so only that one ip can talk to the nfs
[02:27:50] <DanaG> Is the host-to-bridged-guest throughput limited by disk, or by network?
[02:28:01] <DanaG> It was doing copies at like 191 megabits, on a gigabit interface.
[02:28:21] <Botanic_> both
[02:28:46] <DanaG> I think I'm also running into some HDD alignment issues.
[02:28:53] <Botanic_> do you have async setup on the nfs?
[02:29:34] <DanaG> I'm not sure what async is.
[02:30:14] <DanaG> ah, is it a serverside option, or a clientside mount option?
[02:31:01] <DanaG> ah: http://serverfault.com/questions/328931/how-dangerous-is-nfs-async-when-raid-bbu-and-ups-are-present
[02:37:21] <Botanic_> serverside
[02:37:29] <Botanic_> set sync=disabled
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[02:38:00] <Botanic_> that will greatly help nfs on zfs performance
[02:39:25] <DanaG> ah, might not want to do that until I know the system is stable.
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[02:39:41] <DanaG> oh yeah, how do I make the "sharesmb" share follow symlinks?
[02:40:33] <DanaG> I'm trying to have all my media in a separate "deluge" user's folder, but symlink it into my home.
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[02:48:21] <tsoome> in kernel smb wont cross filesystem. you need either dfs links or samba.
[02:50:12] <DanaG> Even better would be some sort of overlay -- I overlay folder A on folder B, and folder B shows everything that's in it plus everything in A. Yet, things saved to it go to A.
[02:51:09] <DanaG> Either that, or I should just give up and move it back to being in my stuff.
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[02:51:38] <tsoome> back to basics;)
[02:52:36] <PoolShark_> hi everyone
[02:52:47] <DanaG> ah, then I'd need to figure out how to share only some of my folders with "guests".
[02:53:03] <tsoome> they are only reading?
[02:53:07] <PoolShark_> are we by any chance talking about smb sharing? :)
[02:53:30] <DanaG> yeah.
[02:53:45] <PoolShark_> good heh
[02:53:53] <tsoome> some sort of acl maybe. ….
[02:54:37] <PoolShark_> short story is.. installed oi.. got smb sharing working with the user I created during the install, but can't get it to work with users added later
[02:55:01] <tsoome> workgroup mode?
[02:55:12] <PoolShark_> yes, joined a workgroup
[02:55:24] <tsoome> you did add the pam module?
[02:55:28] <PoolShark_> yes
[02:55:43] <PoolShark_> sharesmb is on and inherited from the parent fs
[02:56:00] <tsoome> you can check if those users have entries in smbpasswd file in /var/smb
[02:56:05] <PoolShark_> they do
[02:56:33] <tsoome> so whats failing then?:)
[02:57:00] <PoolShark_> windows prompts for username and pw... over and over
[02:57:02] <PoolShark_> heh
[02:57:57] <DanaG> oh yeah, the other thing I was hoping to do: avoid wasting snapshot space on torrents.
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[02:58:36] <tsoome> if no other ideas, set debug.* in syslog.conf and see if it will bring up anything interesting.
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[02:58:58] <DanaG> yeah, having it run as me is far, far far simpler.
[02:59:14] <tsoome> err, *.debug
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[03:00:15] <PoolShark_> ok I'll see what that gives me
[03:00:38] <DanaG> oh yeah, and I don't really need to be able to give anyone else control of my torrents... silly me.
[03:01:00] <tsoome> create separate dataset for torrents
[03:01:18] <tsoome> it would be wise anyhow
[03:01:18] <PoolShark_> dumb question.. what's the service name for the syslogd equivalent?
[03:02:01] <tsoome> for config refresh?
[03:02:09] <tsoome> pkill -1 syslogd ;)
[03:02:10] <PoolShark_> yah
[03:02:13] <PoolShark_> I think I foudn it
[03:02:16] <PoolShark_> system-log, right?
[03:02:31] <DanaG> tsoome: that's what I was going to do, but it'd be a pain to have to mount two different folders on my Windows laptop.
[03:02:38] <PoolShark_> (I'm accustomed to linux)
[03:02:46] <DanaG> I like having just one mapped drive, just one place to look.
[03:03:35] <DanaG> I could do it with symlinks, but the kernel cifs server won't follow them.
[03:04:27] <DanaG> http://osdir.com/ml/opensolaris-discuss/2009-12/msg00755.html
[03:04:45] <PoolShark_> weird... there's not much, if anything in syslog
[03:04:51] <tsoome> DanaG: yes, but thing is the torrents small blocks will fragment heavily the space, you wanna use smaller recordsize there (preallocated file sucks in zfs) and second thing, for completed files you really wanna rewrite result to get blocks aligned and again
[03:05:14] <tsoome> s/and// :D
[03:06:06] <DanaG> Right now, deluge is set to full allocation.
[03:07:03] <DanaG> I'm rebuilding my server after I hosed my old ZFS by handing it to a guest when I _thought_ I had unmounted it in the host... but scripts remounted it.
[03:07:03] <DanaG> It became so bad, it actually panic'd even Solaris 11.
[03:08:51] <DanaG> oh yeah, I wonder if I can use unionfs on the Linux guest, and have it backed by nfs...
[03:08:56] <tsoome> fully allocated file for torrent means you have records like 128k, now you can get 4k receives, meaning that record will be created over and over and over again...
[03:09:34] <tsoome> 32 times for 4k, unless some writes will be consolidated in write cache
[03:09:46] <PoolShark_> weird... theres ntohing in syslog at all since the last reboot
[03:10:03] <tsoome> pgrep syslogd ?
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[03:10:14] <PoolShark_> it's running :)
[03:10:26] <tsoome> if daemon is there, check the config file...
[03:10:33] <altker128> Hey all. Really dumb question, how do I reboot OI and get BIOS screen? reboot restarts the OS
[03:10:34] <Botanic_> DanaG, async is only a problem when you lose power
[03:11:24] <DanaG> Or when I wiggle a power cable and the drives disconnect.
[03:11:31] <tsoome> altker128: man reboot
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[03:12:05] <altker128> tsoome: Yeah, I did that, but for the life of me I couldn't find the right switch
[03:12:27] <tsoome> the keyword is fast reboot ;)
[03:13:02] <altker128> LCD scaling clipped it
[03:13:04] <DanaG> Then again, maybe I should, after all, have my torrented (and often badly tagged) files in a separate "drive" than my corrected media.
[03:13:12] <Botanic_> is there any way to use the same ssd's for zil and l2arc?
[03:13:16] <DanaG> tsoome: so what do I do to optimize the deluge user's dataset?
[03:13:18] <PoolShark_> ahh duh
[03:13:23] <PoolShark_> I'm lookign in the wrong place
[03:13:24] <PoolShark_> heh
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[03:14:06] <tsoome> use quite small recordsize for in progress torrents
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[03:15:16] <DanaG> Well, I'd end up having both in-progress and complete (seeding) files in the same dataset.
[03:15:21] <tsoome> so the small writes wont fragment the space so heavily and write completed ones into separate (normal recordsize) dataset
[03:15:38] <DanaG> oh wait, but I could have another sub-set for incomplete!
[03:16:00] <DanaG> Good idea. rpool/export/home/deluge is one set.... rpool/export/home/deluge/Incomplete is another.
[03:16:02] <PoolShark_> odd again.. *.debug results in a complaint of an unknown priority name
[03:16:31] <tsoome> you have tab as separator?
[03:16:42] <PoolShark_> is that a requirement?
[03:16:47] <tsoome> yes
[03:16:51] <PoolShark_> odd, but ok :)
[03:17:45] <PoolShark_> ok so nothing shows up in syslog when the windows user tries to connect
[03:17:52] <DanaG> tsoome: is "recordsize" the same as "blocksize"?
[03:17:56] <tsoome> yes
[03:19:32] <DanaG> What size should I use?
[03:21:14] <tsoome> DTT bitesize.d did gave IO sizes i think, or just check about chunk sizes ...
[03:21:22] <tsoome> probably 4k is fine
[03:21:55] <DanaG> ah, the default is 128k.
[03:22:06] <patdk-lap> for?
[03:22:25] <tsoome> in process torrents;)
[03:22:39] <patdk-lap> hmm, my torrents all doing 128k, they seem fine
[03:22:50] <patdk-lap> hell, even my one iscsi vol is happy at 128k
[03:23:00] <patdk-lap> I attempted to move it to 8k, and it screamed at me
[03:23:29] <DanaG> Too bad I can't just symlink across data sets and have the cifs server follow.
[03:23:37] <DanaG> Either that, or use a union filesystem.
[03:24:25] <DanaG> hmm, just thought of one more hack: make the "deluge" user's home part of my home.
[03:24:43] <DanaG> Will the cifs server follow symlinks into child datasets?
[03:25:51] <tsoome> no, it behaves just like nfs on sharing
[03:26:17] <PoolShark_> could the absense of a home directory for the user in /home have something to do with it?
[03:26:23] <PoolShark_> *absence
[03:26:38] <tsoome> uhm
[03:27:02] <tsoome> how is your users defined and what shares are they trying to access?
[03:27:05] <PoolShark_> (the user is trying to connecto to a zfs fs in a pool with the sharesmb flag set to on)
[03:27:25] <PoolShark_> permissions and ownership on their tree are set to match their UID and GID
[03:27:41] <PoolShark_> the users are added with useradd
[03:28:20] <tsoome> no the home doesnt matter
[03:28:21] <PoolShark_> and the user who is trying to connect has their homedir set to the fs and not /home/$user
[03:28:25] <PoolShark_> no it shouldn't
[03:28:34] <PoolShark_> i'm just covering all the bases :)
[03:28:36] <DanaG> http://lists.illumos.org/pipermail/developer/2011-January/001242.html
[03:29:04] <tsoome> as you are accessing by share name, not home.
[03:29:18] <PoolShark_> right, that makes sense...
[03:29:51] <PoolShark_> one other thing ist hat I can connect to the share using my userid, but I'm just restricted by the permissions on their tree (whcih are 755 for now)
[03:30:07] <tsoome> DanaG: if you need such complicated setup, just use samba;)
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[03:30:59] <DanaG> Well, the simplest thing to do is to have the deluge user's home be within my home.
[03:31:03] <tsoome> smb depends on ACL (unix permissions are "trivial" acl tho)
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[03:32:01] <DanaG> Like: /home/dana/Torrents/ is "deluge" user's home, and within that is an "incomplete". "Incomplete" can be a separate fs, but "torrents" should be the same fs as my home.
[03:32:05] <tsoome> still fail to see whu other users cant log in… different windows and some wierd LM signing issue?
[03:32:05] <DanaG> Yeah, that sounds good to me.
[03:32:18] <tsoome> why*
[03:32:44] <PoolShark_> dunno... I'm trying both uids from the same laptop
[03:32:58] <PoolShark_> so I wouldn't think that would be the case.. the ACLs are identical for her tree and mine
[03:33:11] <PoolShark_> rwxp--aARWcCos
[03:33:55] <tsoome> just in case you can try to set password again, but doubt thats the case anyhow...
[03:34:02] <PoolShark_> yeah I tried that
[03:35:21] <tsoome> well, you can always just reboot the server and see if that will clear things up
[03:36:12] <tsoome> can be some wierd bug...
[03:36:37] <PoolShark_> tried that too :)
[03:37:20] <tsoome> any idmap settings done?
[03:38:05] <PoolShark_> none
[03:38:40] <DanaG> oh yeah, that's what I'll do: unfinished go in ~/Torrents/Incomplete; finished go in ~/Torrents
[03:38:47] <tsoome> out of ideas then:) anyhow its way too late for me...
[03:39:14] <PoolShark_> well I really broke something now haha
[03:40:20] <DanaG> now I just need to figure out permissions... I need the deluge user to be able to write to my user dir via nfs, but not to the parent.
[03:42:40] <PoolShark_> ok, thanks for your help
[03:42:45] <PoolShark_> I'll keep plugging at it
[03:42:52] <PoolShark_> maybe I'll stumble onto something
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[03:50:03] <Botanic_> im trying to partition a drive so that i can use the same one for l2arc and zil however i cant seem to figure out what partition type to use, does anyone know?
[03:51:35] <DanaG> argh, the syntax of /bin/chmod has me befuddled
[03:52:09] <DanaG> Torrents dir (Deluge home dir) has:
[03:52:09] <DanaG> owner@:rwxp-DaA--cC-s:-------:allow
[03:52:15] <DanaG> I tried to do this:
[03:52:38] <DanaG> /bin/chmod dana@:rwxp-DaA--cC-s:-------:allow Torrents/
[03:52:53] <DanaG> also tried with A+dana@
[03:53:13] <DanaG> oh, it's user:dana: (no '@')
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[04:03:13] <DanaG> tsoome: okay, I've got it all set up nicely. Now, assuming the 4K recordsize on the 'incomplete' dataset, is full allocation still a problem?
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[04:11:28] <patdk-lap> what torrent program are you using?
[04:14:03] <DanaG> Deluge, in a Linux VM.
[04:14:19] <DanaG> There's no (non-ancient, at least) Deluge for OI.
[04:14:38] <patdk-lap> hmm
[04:14:57] <DanaG> There's also no PulseAudio, or at least any I could find.
[04:14:57] <patdk-lap> I am running transmission
[04:15:14] <DanaG> Oh, and for some reason, my usb headset adapter has the audio come out mono.
[04:15:21] <patdk-lap> and one of the recent updates made the cache adjustable, changing that from deafult 8megs I think, to something larger stopped my disks thrashing
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[04:17:49] <DanaG> oh, it was the cable.
[04:17:51] <DanaG> weird.
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[06:37:46] <DanaG> ARGH, why are my files not inheriting the ACLs of the dirs above them?
[06:39:49] <DanaG> ah, had to set inheritance.
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[07:21:14] <Z`> hello people. I'm trying to install oi_151a 64-bit and it hangs after the copyright notice is shown
[07:21:39] <Z`> fwiw a warning of 'no randomness provider enabled for /dev/random' is displayed just before the hang
[07:23:07] <DanaG> argh, even when I set the acl for "fd" inheritance... it's not inherited!
[07:23:54] <_Tenchi_> zfs acls and inheritance are so fun
[07:25:05] <DanaG> I have permissions to copy into a folder... but can't rename the files once they're there.
[07:27:12] <altker128> All, I'm experience the weirdest issue with OI: I've done the install several times and I create a standard user but after the install I can't login. Is there any issue with hitting F2 the installer without hitting enter?
[07:35:36] <DanaG> argh, what the hell, I have permission to create and delete, but not to overwrite? Really?
[07:35:41] <DanaG> ARGHJKL!
[07:36:26] <DanaG> so, it seems the inherited permissions aren't being inherited.
[07:44:55] <DanaG> Screw it... I'm just going to have the damn daemon run as me.
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[08:14:52] <altker128> I downloaded OI server, but I don't recall being prompted to choose 32b or 64b . Is there an easy to tell if it's running 64b? CPU is AMD64 capable.
[08:16:39] <DanaG> hmm, mine seems to be running 32-bit. Bummer.
[08:16:59] <DanaG> or rather, uname -a says:
[08:17:00] <DanaG> SunOS openindiana 5.11 oi_151a i86pc i386 i86pc
[08:17:04] <DanaG> does that mean it's in 32-bit mode?
[08:18:41] <altker128> Yeah same here, but at boot is ays oi_161a 64-bit
[08:18:43] <altker128> so I'm not sure
[08:18:45] <altker128> DanaG: What hardware?
[08:19:59] <altker128> hrm
[08:20:04] <altker128> It looks like it installed 32-bit
[08:20:17] <altker128> Anyway to request 64-bit? Hardware is HP Microserver 36NL.
[08:20:27] <altker128> /usr/bin$ file unzip
[08:20:28] <altker128> unzip: ELF 32-bit LSB executable 80386 Version 1 [FPU], dynamically linked, stripped
[08:21:30] <richlowe> it's bi-arch, you'll have libraries of both flavours, and (some) executables of both flavours.
[08:21:40] <richlowe> isainfo -b will tell you which kernel is running.
[08:22:06] <DanaG> wait... but my vbox is 64-bit guest.
[08:22:11] <DanaG> Looks like uname -a doesn't specify.
[08:22:20] <DanaG> file /bin/ls says 64-bit.
[08:23:24] <altker128> interesting...isainfo -b says 64, file /bin/ls says 32-bit executable.
[08:24:20] <DanaG> amd64: amd_svm amd_lzcnt popcnt amd_sse4a tscp ahf cx16 sse3 sse2 sse fxsr amd_3dnowx amd_3dnow amd_mmx mmx cmov amd_sysc cx8 tsc fpu
[08:24:20] <DanaG> i386: amd_svm amd_lzcnt popcnt amd_sse4a tscp ahf cx16 sse3 sse2 sse fxsr amd_3dnowx amd_3dnow amd_mmx mmx cmov amd_sysc cx8 tsc fpu
[08:25:19] <altker128> Anyone here use napp-it?
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[08:29:39] <altker128> hrm...
[08:29:41] <altker128> smartmontools-5.40 configuration:
[08:29:42] <altker128> host operating system: i386-pc-solaris2.11
[08:29:45] <altker128> Why not AMD64?
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[08:51:08] <richlowe> because the autoconf host name is i386 regardless of bittedness.
[08:51:15] <richlowe> it's thoroughily multi-lib.
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[09:43:53] <jpg> altker128, I do. on an n36l myself. oi 151a
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[17:06:42] <Kush-> Hi. I need access to the old 147 publisher. Is it possible to use that specific repository using pkg? I tried setting something like "http://pkg-1.de.openindiana.org/dev/en/catalog.shtml?version=0.5.11,5.11-0.147", but with no luck.
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[23:13:59] <papertigers> Can you remove slog devices? Or have I forgotten everything I know about zfs :/
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[23:16:38] <papertigers> nvm I was trying detach rather than remove. Removing a slog is safe this way right>
[23:16:39] <papertigers> ?
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